9/11, 7/7 & the War on Freedom

9/11 Truth News :: RE: great bill hicks vid

GodSaveTheTeam — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:03:29 GMT

Author: GodSaveTheTeam
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:03 am (GMT 0)

Coool!!! Has anyone seen the Bill Hicks "American" movie yet? I'm not sure but I think it's a Kevin Booth production...It seems pretty new. I haven't seen it.
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Hurricane Erin : Checking the evidence
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=18218
RFC "Thermite Free" ? : Checking the evidence
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=18301
Lack of WTC Debris ? : Checking the Evidence
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=140596&highlight=#140596

London Bombings of Thursday 7th July 2005 :: RE: Morning Star reviews 'Terror of the Tube'

Pugwash — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:47:11 GMT

Author: Pugwash
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:47 pm (GMT 0)

Frank Freedom:Last Chance Saloon - What the...

Ah well, haven't seen this video before, Spanish perhaps there is an english version. But strikes me that the clothes worn on the 28th June are remarkable similar to that of 7/7 video releases (including the must have travel accessory - the white plastic bag).

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=es-mx&vid=aa848c35-484a-415d-8001-7dbf280779af
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: Dr. Steven Jones & Dr. Judy Wood

PookztA — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:09:31 GMT

Author: PookztA
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:09 pm (GMT 0)

quick question:

1. If those people who helped to plan 9/11 also anticipated and planned the 9/11 Truth Movement, what do you think the cover up would look like?
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: Judy Wood Ph.D, Materials Science, 9/11, & Energy Weapon

PookztA — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:59:09 GMT

Author: PookztA
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:59 pm (GMT 0)

amazing how insulting people can be...

quick question:

1. If those people who helped to plan 9/11 also anticipated and planned the 9/11 Truth Movement, what do you think the cover up would look like?
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: Dr. Steven Jones & Dr. Judy Wood

fish5133 — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:20:32 GMT

Author: fish5133
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:20 pm (GMT 0)

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" real innocent researchers who want to get at the truth they need to go out and read for themselves, need to look at all the websites and make up their own decision because when someone tells you how to think, what to look at and what not to look at you have to act like ateenager at that point and say if their telling me what to do i am gonna do the opposite, look at everthing and make up your own mind"
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: Judy Wood Ph.D, Materials Science, 9/11, & Energy Weapon

fish5133 — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:59:43 GMT

Author: fish5133
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:59 pm (GMT 0)

Pooktza wrote

Quote:

If all of the steel was melted in that building

I dont know anyone from any viewpoint who says all the steel was melted.

I suppose thats a bit like claiming that Woods/Aj says all the steel turned to dust.

Yet we have firstrsponders saying they saw molten iron which would suggest that some of the steel was molten but i dont recall any firstresponders saying they saw any steel that had turned to dust. Purely on the basis of oral testimony of those there one would presume some steel was molten .
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9/11 Truth News :: RE: Russia Today - 9/11 Truth Whodunnit?

outsider — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:52:57 GMT

Author: outsider
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:52 pm (GMT 0)

satya wrote:

why dont they ever discuss the root of this evil, the rockefellas and bilderberg group......

I know why its because all media is controlled and the only real freedom we have left to seek the truth is the internet. Exactly why they want to dictate
this also. Insane control freaks that have long lost their humanity.

And also search 'Aaron Russo + Historic Interview', which gives a highly understandable, straight from the hip account of Rockefeller etc.
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: Dr. Steven Jones & Dr. Judy Wood

gruts — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:52:04 GMT

Author: gruts
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:52 pm (GMT 0)

PookztA wrote:

1st of all: here's some more pre-prepared spam....

there you go again - totally ignoring what's been said, avoiding the evidence, making more baseless and ridiculous claims and going off on another rant about Steven Jones.

the video and article I posted contain multiple different reports of finding molten steel at ground zero, none of which have anything to do with steven jones. of course these reports might all be wrong, but pretending that they don't exist is typical of the judy wood cult's approach to evidence.

so is assuming that everyone who can see through judy wood's bullshit must be in bed with jones.

whatever....
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9/11 Truth News :: RE: Russia Today - 9/11 Truth Whodunnit?

outsider — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:49:39 GMT

Author: outsider
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:49 pm (GMT 0)

satya wrote:

Search 'Republic Magazine' plus Issue 11; CFR run the media, period.
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: Andrew Johnson & Dr Judy Wood on Edge TV Sky 200 25th

gruts — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:44:58 GMT

Author: gruts
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:44 pm (GMT 0)

is there anything new in this video or is it just the same old same old?

ie the "lack of rubble/dustified steel" bullshit....

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=18217

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13077

the "toasted cars" bullshit....

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14231

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=18171

the hurricane erin bullshit....

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=18218

and so on....

btw - did the "beam weapon" also destroy WTC7?

if so what is the evidence for that?

if not - why did the perps go to the trouble of launching their beam weapon into orbit so they could fire it at the twin towers, but didn't bother to use it on an adjacent building that they also wanted to destroy?

are there any other examples of them using this secret beam weapon? Surely they wouldn't go to all that effort just to use it one time?

is the beam weapon still in orbit? if not then where is it? and how come nobody noticed it? does it have some kind of star-trek style "cloaking device" to prevent detection?

how does this beam weapon work?

what kind of directed energy is involved?

can its effects be reproduced in a lab?

can judy wood demonstrate how steel can be "dustified"?

will she be publishing a peer-reviewed paper about this subject anytime soon?

how does her previous work in the field of materials science qualify her to invent new pseudo-scientific concepts that she can't even begin to explain?

http://truthaction.org/media/Judy_Wood_and_Jim_Fetzer_discuss_DEW.mp3
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: RFC "Thermite Free" ? : Checking the evidence...

outsider — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:44:13 GMT

Author: outsider
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:44 pm (GMT 0)

Micpsi wrote:

outsider wrote:

GodSaveTheTeam wrote:

The article linked to contains heavy pro-OCT bias

Is this what the Woodcult are using to debunk the Jonescult? An article written by people who believe the official story?

Is that what it's come to?

In the end there are grave doubts about both parties.

Jones' ties to the Cold Fusion legend. Wood's use of easily debunkable pseudo-science.

I tend to wonder, are we all being led up the garden path?

Only if we allow ourselves to be; we all make mistakes; 'Cold Fusion' would appear to be Jones's; but the thermite/ thermate/nanothermite/ate is peer review'd; Wood's boloney would get laughed out of court (unless, of course, they had an 'Agenda', frinstance discrediting us Truthers).

So Jones was mistaken on 'cold fusion'; that makes him wrong on anything else he touches, already? Follow the evidence he provides; seek in vain for Wood's 'evidence'.

Er, where's the evidence other than what he claims to have found (it really amounts only to a contestable interpretation)? You have to take his word for it that his data is unbiased by contamination and his scientific protocols sound. There has been NO replication of his own results - the sine qua non of scientific research. He never told you that he got his dust samples from the very company that cleared up Ground Zero. Published in a peer-reviewed journal? Big deal! I have seen dozens of papers published in such journals that were so bad they should never have seen the light of day. It does NOT mean that the paper is sound.

Ask Jones why he never analyzed his samples for high-explosives and refuses still to do so.........

(P.S. He won't tell you).

Both the Woodcult and the Jonescult are cul-de-sacs for the scientifically uneducated. Their "work" would be laughed out of any scientific conference. They get away with their travesties being unchallenged because so few well-qualified scientists have the courage to become involved in the 9/11 movement.

And, of course, 1,000 plus Architects and Engineers have put their livelihoods (and perhaps more) on the line, to support this interpration?
Strange brew? Who, among the Architects and Engineers, is willing to back up Woods & Hutchison?
If it looks like disinfo, walks like disinfo, quacks like disinfo, and smells like disinfo, well, chances are pretty good it is just that.
Not that some well-meaning people can't be swayed by such baloney, but baloney it most assuredly is.
Get Woods or Hutchison to debate this issue, in a public forum, with our guys and gals.
Go ahead, get your champions to take up this challenge (which I offer off the cuff, secure in the knowledge that our people are ready, willing and able to make account for their views and opinions).
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Events :: RE: Mon08Mar - LONDON - Cynthia McKinney Intl. 911 Womens Day

cem — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:25:03 GMT

Author: cem
Subject: VIDEO: Splitting The Sky versus War Criminal George
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:25 pm (GMT 0)

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=18115

VIDEO: Splitting The Sky versus War Criminal George W. Bush

Cynthia McKinney Meets Splitting the Sky

by Anthony J. Hall, 14 March 2010

Hello friends, associates and supporters. Hello, as well, to those who are new to the case of Splitting The Sky versus George W. Bush.

I have no hesitation in asserting that the brilliant content of these videos will be transformative for multitudes of global viewers. These videos contain poetry in You Tube. They offer sophisticated political analysis of the kind that should strike fear in the heart of the criminal class who are currently running the global apparatus of so-called national security. These presentations are studies of effective communication. They embody joy, love and skilled articulation combining classical motifs of ballet-like performance with the free form creativity of hip hop. They highlight two individuals at the top of their form who are leading an accelerating global revolt against the lawless war machine's broadening onslaught. More than any other force, the organized crime of the war machine threatens all humanity-- indeed, all life forms-- with imminent oblivion. Please take the time to study this set of amazing videos and disseminate them far and wide.

The event took place on March 9 only hours after the premature termination of Splitting The Sky's Calgary trial. As the trial was being hurriedly shut down by the state, the legendary Cynthia McKinney arrived in Calgary from London to show solidarity with the veteran Mohawk activist. In an event hosted by my own academic unit, Globalization Studies, and by the University of Calgary's Peace Consortium, STS and Ms. McKinney met for the first time. As they shared stories and joined forces, they came to personify the best spirit of defiance rooted in many generations of resistance towards the forces of colonization, enslavement and resource theft. Together STS and the martyred but still-strong former US Congresswoman, Cynthia McKinney, reflect on what humanity must do now that the heritages of slavery in America and the militarized dispossession of Indigenous peoples have been globalized in the name of the fraudulent Global War on Terror.

As I see it, the case of Splitting The Sky versus George W. Bush will become in the future, even more than it has been in the past, a test case to prove the utter bankruptcy of the censoring mainstream media. This professional malfeasance in the CIA-infested mainstream media stands in contrast with the propensity of activist researchers, publishers, journalists, academics, broadcasters and media artists to use the Internet as a vehicle to advance the revolution that we do intend to televise on You Tube.

Of course, the STS story highlights the media cover up of the lies and crimes of 9/11. But that is only the beginning. STS's story starts with the big cover up of the reality that the New World Order of America began in 1492 with a massive genocide that continues to this day. Add to this monumental cover up the continuing obfuscation of the underlying dynamics that compelled the Attica prisoners, including STS, to revolt against their jailers in 1971.

Similarly, the interests of power have good reason to want to suppress understanding of STS's central role in the Gustafsen Lake Indian War in British Columbia in 1995. There, the Canadian Armed Forces, including Joint Task Force Two (which is centrally involved in special operations in Afghanistan) played a major role in the conflict. The accompanying state-sponsored disinformation and smear campaign was brought to light in a court ruling on an extradition proceeding in Portland Oregon in 2000 entitled USA versus Pitawanakwat. The Canadian and B.C. governments' systematic campaign of media disinformation on the Battle of Gustafsen Lake offers a revealing prelude shedding light on the Cheney-Bush regime's strategy of psychological warfare employed to give a false-impresion of legitimacy to the lawless resource grab advanced in the name of Global War on Terror.

The ongoing genocide that began in 1492 continues to advance the theft of natural resources from Indigenous peoples around the world. The founding of America on this primal original crime extends these days to the creation of new forms of appropriation, domination, murder and enslavement. It finds expression in the sweat shops, forced labour camps, torture chambers and assassination squads of the privatized terror economy. The Big Obama Psy Op is elevating and expanding the 9/11 wars of terror that the new president took over from the Cheney-Bush cabal of war profiteers. Please do yourself a favour and explore these videos while making sure that others are given the same opportunity.

Basta! Enough is Enough

Anthony J. Hall

Professor of Globalization Studies
University of Lethbridge

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Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzDuXTFOR8g

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emO-EuF3-9Y

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMHiD8PWYzg

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iga_3f1kiWU

Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L88fXyYtLMw

Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ9UxPSxtaA

Part 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y-_VFXS540

Part 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yocqf0sTsW8

Part 9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsXdA606DY8

Part 10: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dAp4kk5RZ0

Part 11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV3AnyxcWEo

Part 12: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYhwbwpjxQA

Part 13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2h5nteKLvA

Part 14: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wUl_wUDSGY

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9/11 Truth News :: RE: Spooks meet scientists over 9/11 - P.Craig Roberts article

scienceplease 2 — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:20:07 GMT

Author: scienceplease 2
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:20 pm (GMT 0)

I am not aware of the significance of Paul Craig Roberts or Chris Story, could you provide some background? Thanks.

9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: Judy Wood Ph.D, Materials Science, 9/11, & Energy Weapon

gruts — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:18:50 GMT

Author: gruts
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:18 pm (GMT 0)

PookztA wrote:

It's hard to hold two separate conversations on the same topic

nobody forced you to repeatedly post the same stuff in different threads....

PookztA wrote:

Her Qui-Tam whistleblower case, filed in 2007, made it all the way to the Supreme Court

and you keep going on about Judy wood's case as if it has actually achieved something other than getting laughed out of court every time it's submitted. the sad truth is that it's a pointless exercise in futility, but nevertheless she reacts to each failure by launching an appeal which then also gets laughed out of court.

incidentally, you seem to think that only a case with merit could keep moving up the legal chain but it's not true. you can keep appealing any old bullshit all the way to the top if you really want to. it's just that most people wouldn't bother to repeat the same epic fail over and over again like judy wood has done. the supreme court will routinely laugh her baseless absurdities out of court just like the lower courts have done and the whole thing will have been a waste of time - as I'm sure you know very well....

Andrew Johnson wrote:

we advocate submitting EVIDENCE to court in some way. Or at least build a case on EVIDENCE.

if you want to credibly dismiss more rational explanations for the phenomena observed at the WTC on 9/11 in favour of your belief in secret exotic weaponry, then you do indeed require some pretty compelling evidence on your side.

but unfortunatley you don't have anything that even resembles evidence which can stand up to scrutiny and rational thinking - and that's also why you'll never be able to convince more than a handful of very gullible people to take you seriously - no matter how many times the likes of Pookzta spam the same garbage all over the internet.

leaving aside the fact that your unfounded beliefs about Hurricane Erin, "lack of rubble", "dustified steel", "toasted cars" etc have been completely debunked, and some schoolboy errors in your "research" have been exposed - you don't even have any tangible ideas about the nature of the "beam weapon" that you imagine did the damage to the wtc.

you respond indignantly to anything you perceive as criticism or ridicule - but the sad truth is that your beliefs really are a joke.

you're also a complete hypocrite in this respect, given that you and the rest of the judy wood cult spend so much of your time attacking steven jones and others. for example, I remember your youtbe video about Jones, in which you ridiculed him in an extremely infantile manner - while also inadvertently demonstrating your ignorance of basic science and inabilty to understand what he was talking about (the Leidenfrost effect). I guess you took it down from youtube out of embarassment.

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=101172#101172

what's even funnier is the way you keep telling people to "check the evidence" - despite the fact that the only way you can cling to your beliefs is by wilfully ignoring and avoiding all the evidence that proves you wrong, while repeating your discredited BS like a mindless sheep.

and when people actually do check your so-called "evidence", virtually all of them can see what a load of drivel it really is. I can understand why that annoys you - but a credible researcher would be prepared to discuss his research and respond to valid corrections and criticisms - rather than running away and inventing conspiracy theories about anyone who disagrees with him.

maybe you should change your signature to "ask the tough questions folks - but don't expect answers from Andrew Johnson - because he hasn't got any"....
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: Dr. Steven Jones & Dr. Judy Wood

Micpsi — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:28:40 GMT

Author: Micpsi
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:28 pm (GMT 0)

GodSaveTheTeam wrote:

I seem to remember one of the Wood followers saying that it was the dust cloud that causes the damage to the cars.

But then one has to ask, why doesn't it severely damage the building it engulfs for blocks and blocks and of course the people covered in that dust...

Anyone?

Er, because people and buildings are not metallic, whereas the corrosive, acidic dust and sulphurous smoke created by burning gypsum in office wallboards chemically attacked anything made of steel:

Fe + H2SO4 = FeSO4 + H2,

the ferrous sulphate formed in the surfaces of cars and fallen girders then oxidizing into reddish-brown ferric oxide if the steel had been heated by red-hot embers falling on them:

2 FeSO4 = Fe2O3 + SO2 + SO3

(BTW, I have time neither for Wood NOR Jones, so don't think I am defending Wood - the cars were NOT burned by some some exotic DEW. Nor were they burnt by nano-thermate suspended in the smoke. They were corroded by acidic smoke. Simple as that).

9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: Judy Wood Ph.D, Materials Science, 9/11, & Energy Weapon

PookztA — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:02:20 GMT

Author: PookztA
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:02 pm (GMT 0)

It's hard to hold two separate conversations on the same topic, so let's try to bring them together. GodSaves, what concerns do you have that I could answer? Sorry if I missed some. Please list a few of them so I can try to address them for you. Trying to keep our conversation united between different threads:

1st of all: Glowing metal could be molten aluminum, it does not have to be steel. Countless experiments have shown that molten aluminum glows bright orange at most temperatures, and only glows "silvery" at a narrow range of low temperatures. This has been confirmed time and time again, so it is very alarming that Dr. Steven Jones continuously claims that the molten metal observed would have had to be molten steel, because this is a FALSE and FRAUDULENT claim. It is WELL KNOWN that molten aluminum glows orange most often. See for yourself:

(molten aluminum glowing bright orange, as expected, at normal atmospheric pressure, during day light conditions. Source)

2ndly: If all of the steel was melted in that building, we should have had ENORMOUS pools of molten steel, pools so large that they would have been visible to everyone, and at least appearing in ONE photograph. It is very possible that the small group of firemen that claim to have seen molten metal could have been seeing molten aluminum. Still, why wouldn't ONE photo appear showing significant quantities of molten metal? Where did it all go? That whole building's core structure should have been melted by the thermite, that shoud be producing RIVERS and LAKES of molten metal. Where did it all go?!?! Why do only a small group of firemen claim there was pools of molten steel? Wouldn't the enormous rivers and lakes of molten steel have been witnessed by countless people, not just a small group? Perhaps nano-thermite was just used to cut the base of the buildings but an Energy Weapon disintegrated the vast majority of it? Isn't that possible?

Thirdly: If thermite caused a majority of the steel in that 1/4 mile high building to melt, or even to generate super hot steel dust, how were their survivors found within the building still??? These people would have been burnt to death by the air temperature at the very least! How come the people coated by the dust were not burnt AT ALL? Surely nano-thermite generated dust would have been extremely hot, yet it did not burn the people it coated, not one bit! Why? How? How did thousands and thousands of paper sheets survive such high temperatures? Surely they would have at least been burnt on their way out of the building. How were cars started on fire, but thousands of sheets of nearby paper were completely unharmed? High temperatures are not selective, they burn EVERYTHING they contact, so how did fragile paper and people survive the in the building but cars blocks away caught on fire??? Amazing.

Lastly: If any of you needs a refresher as to what Dr. Steven Jones is doing to the 9/11 Truth Movement, perhaps you should familiarize yourself with what he did to the Cold Fusion movement after being tipped off by his source of funding, the government's Department of Energy (DoE). This short video clip briefly discusses how Cold Fusion was real, and not only did Dr. Steven Jones rush to publish a false report to completely discredit the movement, but when MIT University later went on to verify the results, someone mysteriously changed their data during the publication process, which resulted in the MIT professor who lead the study resigning from MIT in protest. He was then MURDERED. Here is the short video clip:

Link

9/11 is about FREE ENERGY folks, I hope someday you all wake up to this. Sure, nano-thermite could have been used in part, but there is no doubt in my mind that FREE ENERGY was the major method used to bring down those buildings.
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: Dr. Steven Jones & Dr. Judy Wood

PookztA — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:47:44 GMT

Author: PookztA
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:47 pm (GMT 0)

1st of all: Glowing metal could be molten aluminum, it does not have to be steel. Countless experiments have shown that molten aluminum glows bright orange at most temperatures, and only glows "silvery" at a narrow range of low temperatures. This has been confirmed time and time again, so it is very alarming that Dr. Steven Jones continuously claims that the molten metal observed would have had to be molten steel, because this is a FALSE and FRAUDULENT claim. It is WELL KNOWN that molten aluminum glows orange most often. See for yourself:

(molten aluminum glowing bright orange, as expected, at normal atmospheric pressure, during day light conditions. Source)

2ndly: If all of the steel was melted in that building, we should have had ENORMOUS pools of molten steel, pools so large that they would have been visible to everyone, and at least appearing in ONE photograph. It is very possible that the small group of firemen that claim to have seen molten metal could have been seeing molten aluminum. Still, why wouldn't ONE photo appear showing significant quantities of molten metal? Where did it all go? That whole building's core structure should have been melted by the thermite, that shoud be producing RIVERS and LAKES of molten metal. Where did it all go?!?! Why do only a small group of firemen claim there was pools of molten steel? Wouldn't the enormous rivers and lakes of molten steel have been witnessed by countless people, not just a small group? Perhaps nano-thermite was just used to cut the base of the buildings but an Energy Weapon disintegrated the vast majority of it? Isn't that possible?

Thirdly: If thermite caused a majority of the steel in that 1/4 mile high building to melt, or even to generate super hot steel dust, how were their survivors found within the building still??? These people would have been burnt to death by the air temperature at the very least! How come the people coated by the dust were not burnt AT ALL? Surely nano-thermite generated dust would have been extremely hot, yet it did not burn the people it coated, not one bit! Why? How? How did thousands and thousands of paper sheets survive such high temperatures? Surely they would have at least been burnt on their way out of the building. How were cars started on fire, but thousands of sheets of nearby paper were completely unharmed? High temperatures are not selective, they burn EVERYTHING they contact, so how did fragile paper and people survive the in the building but cars blocks away caught on fire??? Amazing.

Lastly: If any of you needs a refresher as to what Dr. Steven Jones is doing to the 9/11 Truth Movement, perhaps you should familiarize yourself with what he did to the Cold Fusion movement after being tipped off by his source of funding, the government's Department of Energy (DoE). This short video clip briefly discusses how Cold Fusion was real, and not only did Dr. Steven Jones rush to publish a false report to completely discredit the movement, but when MIT University later went on to verify the results, someone mysteriously changed their data during the publication process, which resulted in the MIT professor who lead the study resigning from MIT in protest. He was then MURDERED. Here is the short video clip:

Link

9/11 is about FREE ENERGY folks, I hope someday you all wake up to this. Sure, nano-thermite could have been used in part, but there is no doubt in my mind that FREE ENERGY was the major method used to bring down those buildings.
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: RFC "Thermite Free" ? : Checking the evidence...

Micpsi — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:46:45 GMT

Author: Micpsi
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:46 pm (GMT 0)

outsider wrote:

GodSaveTheTeam wrote:

Pre-Planned Economic 9/11 :: The GRAND DEPRESSION and Zionist NWO

GodSend — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:32:07 GMT

Author: GodSend
Subject: The GRAND DEPRESSION and Zionist NWO
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:32 pm (GMT 0)

911 is merely the "tip of the iceberg" when it comes to the Zionist GAMEPLAN for Humanity. The GRAND DEPRESSION (already in progress) is also just another piece of The Puzzle. THEY! LIVE and Humanity is simply "soul food" for the ALIEN RACE.

For a COMPLETE 3D View of The Puzzle and a perspective on ALL the pieces, including 911 and the GRAND DEPRESSION, visit:

http://sol-godsend.blogspot.com and
http://novalight.org

Be prepared for "SHOCK and AWE"
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9/11 Truth News :: RE: Russia Today - 9/11 Truth Whodunnit?

satya — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:39:55 GMT

Author: satya
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:39 pm (GMT 0)

why dont they ever discuss the root of this evil, the rockefellas and bilderberg group......

I know why its because all media is controlled and the only real freedom we have left to seek the truth is the internet. Exactly why they want to dictate
this also. Insane control freaks that have long lost their humanity.
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9/11 Truth News :: great bill hicks vid

crazydave — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:37:19 GMT

Author: crazydave
Subject: great bill hicks vid
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:37 pm (GMT 0)

Link

he may be dead but his spirit lives on!

9/11 Truth News :: RE: Is everyone aware of this? NYPD Radio transmissions 911

satya — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:22:47 GMT

Author: satya
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:22 pm (GMT 0)

Seems like alot on confusion within the police ranks. Bit about the remote controlled plane sounds interesting.....
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9/11 Truth News :: Spooks meet scientists over 9/11 - P.Craig Roberts article

Thermate911 — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:15:45 GMT

Author: Thermate911
Subject: Spooks meet scientists over 9/11 - P.Craig Roberts article
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:15 pm (GMT 0)

Apologies if this has already been posted under another title but the fact Paul Craig Roberts is showing up on Chris Story's site is interesting in itself, IMO, if only to demonstrate that there's apparently a widening schism or three within MI6...

http://www.worldreports.org/news/272_paul_craig_roberts_sticks_it_to_the_911_criminals

Quote:

The Washington Times is a newspaper that looks with favor upon the Bush/Cheney/Obama/neocon wars of aggression in the Middle East and favors making terrorists pay for 9/11. Therefore, I was surprised to learn on February 24 that the most popular story on the paper's website for the past three days was the "Inside the Beltway" report, "Explosive News", about the 31 press conferences in cities in the US and abroad on February 19 held by Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, an organization of professionals which now has 1,000 members.

I was even more surprised that the news report treated the press conference seriously. How did three World Trade Center skyscrapers suddenly disintegrate into fine dust?

How did massive steel beams in three skyscrapers suddenly fail as a result of short-lived, isolated, and low temperature fires?

"A thousand architects and engineers want to know, and are calling on Congress to order a new investigation into the destruction of the Twin Towers and Building 7", reports the newspaper.

The paper reports that the architects and engineers have concluded that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the US National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) provided "insufficient, contradictory and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction" and are "calling for a grand jury investigation of NIST officials". ... ... ...

... ... ...This evidence is not going to go away. ... ... ...

Not much new there but the juxtaposition - and some interesting conclusions.
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies :: RE: RFC "Thermite Free" ? : Checking the evidence...

Frank Freedom — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:49:08 GMT

Author: Frank Freedom
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:49 pm (GMT 0)

GodSaveTheTeam wrote:

It certainly is the case that the Woodcult are using very relevent research pertaining to the peer review system of the Jonescult ,
despite being from a OCT biased source.

I agree,Wood doesn't speak in very scientific terms,there again neither does Jones, both involve belief in huge chunks of their of "evidence".
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London Bombings of Thursday 7th July 2005 :: RE: Morning Star reviews 'Terror of the Tube'

Frank Freedom — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:12:03 GMT

Author: Frank Freedom
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:12 pm (GMT 0)

Audio of Kollerstrom discussing 7/7, 'Terror on the Tube' plus 9/11, JFK, and False Flag attacks with Jim Fetzer:

http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2009/12/terror-on-tube-interview-with-nicholas.html
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