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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

Disco_Destroyer — Sat, 25 May 2013 03:23:15 GMT

Author: Disco_Destroyer
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:23 am (GMT 0)

makes one wonder if my brief interview was MI5 hmmmm
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

nrmis — Sat, 25 May 2013 00:29:39 GMT

Author: nrmis
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:29 am (GMT 0)

Woolwich attack: MI5 'offered job to suspect'

Quote:

MI5 asked Woolwich murder suspect Michael Adebolajo if he wanted to work for them about six months before the killing, a childhood friend has said.

Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22664468

The man who made this claim has been arrested after he made the claim on newsnight!

Quote:

Woolwich suspect's friend arrested after appearing on Newsnight

Man detained after claiming on television that Michael Adebolajo was tortured in Kenya and harassed by MI5 agents

Link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/25/woolwich-suspect-kenya-torture

Articles :: RE: World on brink of 1930s style depression - BIS

TonyGosling — Sat, 25 May 2013 00:04:46 GMT

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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:04 am (GMT 0)

The inside story of the central bankers' secret bank is an 80 year history of an institution that was designed to escape public scrutiny and to emphasize discretion, even as it became a leading architect of the global financial system. It's the engine at the heart of the financialization of everything. Six times a year, the world's most powerful and exclusive club meets in an unexceptional office building in Basel, Switzerland. They are central bankers, the presidents of national banks, such as the US Federal Reserve, the Bundesbank of Germany and the Bank of England. They have come to Basel to attend the Global Economy Meetings at the Bank for International Settlements. The discussions at the BIS meeting, the information that is shared there, the deals that are brokered and the subsequent decisions that the bankers take, shape all of our lives. The main job of a central banker is coordinate interest rates, regulate credit and the money supply and, especially in these austerity-obsessed times, work to prevent inflation. In short: these men control fiscal policy in the developed world. That means that the men gathered at the BIS influence how much money we have in our pockets and bank accounts, how much that money is worth and how safe it will be. Central bankers now "seem more powerful than politicians," wrote the Economist, "holding the destiny of the global economy in their hands". The Economist understated the case. Thanks in part to the global financial crisis, the attendees at the BIS bi-monthly meetings have seen their power reach unprecedented levels. Central bankers now shape the destiny, not just of their national economies and of the global economy, but of nations themselves.
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General :: RE: Monsanto's Toxic GM Crop-French reject it!

outsider — Fri, 24 May 2013 22:26:32 GMT

Author: outsider
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:26 pm (GMT 0)

'Is Outrage Over the Monsanto Protection Act a Turning Point for the Food Movement?'...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michele-simon/monsanto-protection-act_b_3327270.html

There are to be Demos against Monsanto in some 20 countries; in London there is one in Parliament Square at 14.00 tomorrow, Saturday 25th May.

I don't expect there will be a very big meeting; unfortunately, it has been very poorly advertised, almost completely through Facebook, something I don't trust. Still, I hope it does get a big crowd.
This GMO business is extremely important; not for me personally, as I'm passed my three score years and ten 'sell-by' date, with no family. But for you younger folks, it is highly significant that Monsanto can poison you with impunity, and with the blessings of the US government (and how long before Eurocrats in Brussels cave in?).

Already 1,500 US farmers have been succesfully sued by Monsanto for having been contaminated by Monsanto's Frankenstein Genetics.
Yes, instead of the principal of 'the polluter pays', in the US, this is reversed in the case of GMO's, and 'the victim of pollution pays'. Incredible, but true.
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

Whitehall_Bin_Men — Fri, 24 May 2013 20:14:29 GMT

Author: Whitehall_Bin_Men
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:14 pm (GMT 0)

London�s false flag even more pathetic than the Boston Bombing
Posted on May 23, 2013 by # 1 NWO Hatr
http://eyreinternational.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/londons-false-flag-even-more-pathetic-than-the-boston-bombing/

Eyre International

The gruesome scene of a decapitated actor with no police or paramedics at the scene and no blood!!

Note the offenders are shot by armed police who are in attendance in the background but the murder scene has not been secured!!

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I am sure many of you have woken up to this amazing Shakespearean play that has unfolded in Woolwich, London where all the actors were so bad they would not even qualify for an interview as an extra in some third rate movie!!

��

First we had the overhead helicopter shots taken soon after the incident at the junction of the A205 and the B210 (so called crime scene). The first pictures emerged showing a police tent covering the body of the victim�.but wait a minute this tent must have been blown away by the wind to another location��.were the actors involved in this flase flag caught with their trousers down?��.take a look at the original tent location below.

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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

Whitehall_Bin_Men — Fri, 24 May 2013 19:46:07 GMT

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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:46 pm (GMT 0)

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/woolwich-false-flag-inside-job-fake.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329236/Woolwich-attack--Moment-heroic-woman-tries-remonstrate-knife-wielding-soldier-killer-police-arrived-scene.html
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

Disco_Destroyer — Fri, 24 May 2013 18:20:13 GMT

Author: Disco_Destroyer
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:20 pm (GMT 0)

just posted interesting

Quote:

Woolwich killers LINKS to Anjem Choudary and Al-Muhajiroun.

Now I found this comment on a thread from 2011 which states: -

"As is now well-documented, Choudary�s predecessors in the al-Muhajiroun group had links to British security services � MI5/Special Branch at home, and the foreign secret service (MI6) for black operations in Kosovo. Followers of al-Muhajiroun fought alongside the CIA-sponsored KLA in a covert guerilla war to destablise the Kosovo government. The purpose, it seems, was to gain Algerian support for the trans-Balkan oil pipeline project. We harboured these dangerous radicals under a �Covenant of Security� by which we tolerated their activities so long as they didn�t brainwash our kids into attacking *us*. Apparently their hate-filled tirades were deemed an acceptable price to pay for their strategic usefulness abroad"

Now in the book called "Secret Affairs: Britain's Collusion with Radical Islam By Mark Curtis" it reads: -

Following the 2005 London bombings, John Loftus, a former US justice department prosecutor and US intelligence officer claimed that MI6 worked with the millitant Islamic organisation called Al-Muhajiroun to send jihadists to Kosova.

Al-Muhajiroun was set up by Omar Bakri Mohammed who in 1986 fled to Britain and set up a british branch. By the mid 1990's Bakri was being described as the HEAD OF THE POLITICAL WING OF THE INTERNATIONAL ISLAMIC FRONT founded by OSAMA BIN LADEN.

Loftus told a US television station that Al-Muhajiroun leaders ALL WORKED FOR BRITISH INTELLIGENCE IN KOSOVO and that BRITISH INTELLIGENCE ACTUALLY HIRED SOME AL-QAEDA GUYS to help defend muslim rights in Albania and Kosova. CIA was funding the operation while british intelligence WAS DOING THE HIRING AND RECRUITING"

Now have a listen to this guy - talking about LINKS between 7/7 Al-Muhajiroun and BRITISH INTELLIGENCE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoxPY3H5EqA

So were the WOOLWICH KILLERS recruited by MI5/MI6 funded and working for Al-Muhajiroun and BRITISH INTELLIGENCE ? - looks like it.

Here is the link to the book

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=KOMewMUw024C&pg=PT131&lpg=PT131&dq=al-Muhajiroun+kosovo&source=bl&ots=yvDOXU-vtS&sig=JPk57ArxLQdoUqDEQHpGpNWwBio&hl=en&sa=X&ei=oZqfUeWAA6Go0AWWyoCQAg&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw

I have been approached by some unknown character after blabbing to an off duty officer about 7/7. How far does the term asset go and how likely is it these people never know they are being handled?

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Well the LEADER of Al-Muhajiroun IS MI5/MI6 - no doubt. He appeared on channel 4 news after the incident. This whole affair I am convinced is staged - I do not believe he is a "patsy"

Anjem Choudary is on yesterdays C4 news you can see on 4OD

Link

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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

Husq — Fri, 24 May 2013 18:02:19 GMT

Author: Husq
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:02 pm (GMT 0)

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Just happened? The crowd the two women pass are fully aware by then of what has 'supposedly' occured; the women are not running, they just casually stroll along with their trolleys, the first one shielding her face from the camera with her big white hat.

If the link dissapears, many will have seen it before anyway, and will know it makes NO SENSE AT ALL, the way the first black woman casually walks past, and the second one is about to, before edited out.

It's part of the 'Human Condition'. Some people just do not want to get involved and some will. It's part and parcel of the times in which we live.
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

Disco_Destroyer — Fri, 24 May 2013 17:54:14 GMT

Author: Disco_Destroyer
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:54 pm (GMT 0)

outsider wrote:

The following sounds a lot more like the reaction I would expect from a witness, rather than the casual walking towards 'attackers', or even talking casually to them:

Eyewitness describes moment he witnessed attack in Woolwich:

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ks6uFjXMos

That is the LBC witness interview posted above somewhere
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

Disco_Destroyer — Fri, 24 May 2013 17:50:01 GMT

Author: Disco_Destroyer
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:50 pm (GMT 0)

Body language is key in gaging threat, he showed no signs of malice toward the camera person who is said to have been a bystander.

Blood is visible on the original SUN footage by the sign post.

It maybe likely their had been a previous altercation with the said victim as one of the guys was said to have preached on the street in the Woolwich area (don't know how true that is, but sounds reasonable)

Seems looking at yesterdays C4 news the authorities are now trying to blow this all out of proportion.

MI5 links? Hmm maybe they just want you to think they have tabs on everything? After all most Murders are spur of the moment actions that cannot readily be predicted.

Link

pot on report, can't argue with that one
Was the London killing of a British soldier 'terrorism'?
www.guardian.co.uk
Glenn Greenwald: What definition of the term includes this horrific act of violence but excludes the acts of the US, the UK and its allies?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/23/woolwich-attack-terrorism-blowback
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

outsider — Fri, 24 May 2013 13:41:06 GMT

Author: outsider
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:41 pm (GMT 0)

The following sounds a lot more like the reaction I would expect from a witness, rather than the casual walking towards 'attackers', or even talking casually to them:

Eyewitness describes moment he witnessed attack in Woolwich:

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ks6uFjXMos
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

Wakeymedia — Fri, 24 May 2013 13:31:45 GMT

Author: Wakeymedia
Subject: Seems highly unlikely to be false-flag
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:31 pm (GMT 0)

Seems highly unlikely to be false-flag.

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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

outsider — Fri, 24 May 2013 12:54:03 GMT

Author: outsider
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:54 pm (GMT 0)

Fairies? What are you on about? Have you watched the clip I referred to? I doubt it, because it seems unavailable now from the link I gave; though it is still available on the guys site, here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/KillTheOrderHD/videos?query=UNSEEN-

Just happened? The crowd the two women pass are fully aware by then of what has 'supposedly' occured; the women are not running, they just casually stroll along with their trolleys, the first one shielding her face from the camera with her big white hat.

If the link dissapears, many will have seen it before anyway, and will know it makes NO SENSE AT ALL, the way the first black woman casually walks past, and the second one is about to, before edited out.

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edit - It makes perfect sense Paul for people not to realise what was going on.
You have thrown yourself down your own rabbit hole. Now climb out please.

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Campaigning :: RE: London 911 meetings

TonyGosling — Fri, 24 May 2013 12:40:16 GMT

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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:40 pm (GMT 0)

London 9/11 Group meetings are no longer advertised but are open to the public - rather weird & counterproductive IMO.

Various spin offs

ADTV - Ian Henshall's YouTube TV show - mostly private videos though

9/11 Keep Talking - via Belinda Nazi apologist Nick Kollerstrom and his lot.

WAC UK became London Truth Action - that was Stefan Gareth and Andy who were banned from here for their personal attacks on probable bus bomb survivor Daniel Obachike

Possibly more - not sure
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

TonyGosling — Fri, 24 May 2013 12:31:24 GMT

Author: TonyGosling
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:31 pm (GMT 0)

Easy to explain, they didn't know what was happening and it had only just happened. Don't go off with the fairies Paul.

The filming is a bit peculiar though.
Who did the filming?
Any MI5 connections.##

Also several people have explained on the radio that these two killers did not go to the big local Mosque.
They went to a small Islamist radicalised one in Woolwich.
Who is the 'Immam' of that Mosque?
Why has he not had the attention that Abu Hamza and Abu Quatada have had?
In a densely military area were MI5 not all over that little Mosque?
Were MI6 not controlling it ... like with Abu Hamza and Haroon Aswat at Finsbury Park Mosque?
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

outsider — Fri, 24 May 2013 12:19:01 GMT

Author: outsider
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:19 pm (GMT 0)

I have just posted this comment on the Infowars link:

'Can you explain the strange behaviour of two black women in the clip below, one of whom walks calmly by at 0.14 into this video (UNSEEN-LONDON TERROR - URGENT MESSAGE TO THE PUBLIC) shielding her face from the camera with her hat and the other (also shown in your video clip), another black woman calmly walking towards the 'killer' (0.41) with a shopping trolley, who is then cut out of video, before guy walks into road.

Would the many onlookers they both pass not have warned these two women?'
Here is the link to the video clip I refer to, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc62gkSN8W0&bpctr=1369397498 (the 'comment' section did not allow me to put the link, so I put the title).

The behaviour of the two black women with their shopping trolleys is absolutely inexplicable if the scenario was genuine.
The host of onlookers, whom they both walk past before heading towards 'cleaver man', would have dissuaded them from their extremely foolhardy intention.

I wonder why Infowars guy did not address this issue?
(By the way, I am not anti-Infowars, I think it does a great job).
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Campaigning :: RE: London 911 meetings

David WJ Sherlock — Fri, 24 May 2013 12:14:40 GMT

Author: David WJ Sherlock
Subject: What ever happened to We Are Change UK?
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:14 pm (GMT 0)

I have not seen anything from WAC lately. And most of what I did come across was accusation of some or most of them as being MOD.
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

outsider — Fri, 24 May 2013 11:19:36 GMT

Author: outsider
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:19 am (GMT 0)

Quite right. I had seen a different video from a different angle where the 'blood' was just a dark liquid on ground, same colour as the radiator leakage (but the guy was standing in same position at beginning of clip, so I assumed I'd seen the clip. I then thought I would check the clip, tried to cancel my post, but was too late).
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

TonyGosling — Fri, 24 May 2013 11:11:05 GMT

Author: TonyGosling
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:11 am (GMT 0)

Watch the video Paul
the blood is several feet in front of the car - loads and loads of blood and not radiator fluid at all

And another point John Wilson Street & Artillery Place certainly are Red Routes - red lines not yellow ones

outsider wrote:

@ Tony G:
'It's quite clear where the blood went - over by the car..'
That's what I thought, but that patch of 'liquid' is explained as from the car (radiator ruptured from pole impact).

Click here to go to the scene

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10073910/Woolwich-attack-terrorist-proclaimed-an-eye-for-an-eye-after-attack.html
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

outsider — Fri, 24 May 2013 11:09:32 GMT

Author: outsider
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:09 am (GMT 0)

Tried to remove this.
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Two Bombs at the Boston Marathon Finish Line

Whitehall_Bin_Men — Fri, 24 May 2013 11:08:54 GMT

Author: Whitehall_Bin_Men
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:08 am (GMT 0)

@BlacklistedNews:
Boston bombing:
2 FBI Agents Involved With Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's Arrest Killed In Training Exercise
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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

TonyGosling — Fri, 24 May 2013 10:54:16 GMT

Author: TonyGosling
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:54 am (GMT 0)

Some fair degree of planning clearly went into this attack.
Obtaining a firearm. Drug gang connections possibly/probably - key fact is where did they get that gun, who handed it to them?
These two boys will have been right at the top dozen or so of the terrorism suspects list. What contact with and intelligence on did Met and/or MI5 have with them over the last year?
They will almost certainly have had several individuals who were close friends of the boys and knew them personally.
Which agents, officers were doing and reporting what exactly?
And why did the PM David Cameron on Thursday morning 'refuse to say' whether or not they were known to MI5.
What a disingenuous toe rag he is.

2 long term banned Al Maj (MI6) boys with their own revolver and ammunition in the most densely concentrated army London suburb, Woolwich watching patterns of what out of uniform soldiers are up to day to day and when they go back and forth to the barracks?
MI5 have MAJORLY screwed up & heads must roll - the right ones - now.

It's quite clear where the blood went - over by the car - and the idea of the two Al Maj boys was to wait until the police arrived and ambush them. In the video it looked like the police fired more shots than were necessary after downing the boys.
Quite a lot of 'bleating' about not showing this stuff on TV but it's quite clear. Crazy conspiracies are fuelled by not showing and censorship. This 'no blood' thing appears deliberately concocted and thankfully quickly squashed.
The interesting question is who concocted it?
And from what country was it done?
Will the Met be pulling those people in for questioning?

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhtV7qkuNnk

TonyGosling wrote:

Question 3: Where did the victim�s blood go?
Now please examine the following sequence of photos and ask yourself if you see anything odd.
�I got down there and rolled around in it, just to make sure it isn�t there��
I can sure identify with the woman in the gray sweatshirt. If I happened upon a hacked-up and possibly headless corpse, the first thing I would do is get down and lie on my back beside it.
But after I got up, I would be very surprised to find no blood on my sweatshirt....
http://farganne.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/questions-about-the-woolwich-slasher-incident/

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9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

conspiracy analyst — Fri, 24 May 2013 08:44:15 GMT

Author: conspiracy analyst
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:44 am (GMT 0)

The state and its corporate media said a soldier died.
We all know the state never lies.

We also know that many British soldiers are flown back to the UK with injuries and then they die.

We also know the corporate media never lie.
Nothing like some home grown terrorism to unify the collapsing Tory party.

9/11 & 7/7 Truth News :: RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich by top UK terror suspects, armed

outsider — Fri, 24 May 2013 01:29:31 GMT

Author: outsider
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:29 am (GMT 0)

'Was the London Killing of a British Soldier 'Terrorism'?'

What definition of the term includes this horrific act of violence but excludes the acts of the US, the UK and its allies?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35060.htm

'That this was a barbaric and horrendous act goes without saying, but given the legal, military, cultural and political significance of the term "terrorism", it is vital to ask: is that term really applicable to this act of violence? To begin with, in order for an act of violence to be "terrorism", many argue that it must deliberately target civilians. That's the most common means used by those who try to distinguish the violence engaged in by western nations from that used by the "terrorists": sure, we kill civilians sometimes, but we don't deliberately target them the way the "terrorists" do...'

('I would add that Cameron's & Hague's mates that they want to arm in Syria do this sort of thing on an industrial scale).
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'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.

Other Controversies :: RE: Chemtrails - fact or fiction?

outsider — Fri, 24 May 2013 00:20:02 GMT

Author: outsider
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:20 am (GMT 0)

Chemtrails connected to UN 2013 Report? 'Earth is in the midst of a Mass Extinction of Life'
30 minute video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCohucT7FmQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1
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'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.