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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: How Stonehenge was Built? Reply with quote

http://snarfd.com/2007/12/07/stonehenge-the-incredibly-simple-secret-o f-how-it-was-built/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just the information i needed, nice find. im currently looking into ancient civilisations and a part of the mystery is how they managed to move huge rocks and stones around which in itself sparks of 'theorys'.

but there is no doubt if one man can do what is seen in that video then a group of 20 people per rock could move something bigger using the same technics, and this could possibly be the answer and makes sense as he only used materials avalible to people at those times.

and to think we build polluting things to do the job when nature with the right technic works just fine, all be it longer, but proof nature works just fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a good example to show using nice flat American concrete - try turning a 10 ton block around with a stone underneath it on wet english soil - the stone would simply be pushed into the ground.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the vid - but don't romanticise Stonehenge
It and it's Celtic & Druidic human sacrifice were used for mind control and abandoned for all good reasons.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Impressive work by that very handy-man.

But, I always thought the real mystery was not how...but why?

I saw an interesting doc about how, by unearthing strange ancient conical copper hats which chart the lunar eustaces, someone was able to prove that Stonehenge was built to resurrect the moon goddess over the encroaching sun god.

In modern terms, people were losing hope in life as agriculture took over from the night hunt. They were getting bored.

S'henge was an attempt to show how the moon was the truer god(dess).
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But, I always thought the real mystery was not how...but why?


it varies depending which civilisation or which structure is being refered to.

like here for example:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8671073631187036272&q=gods+ are+arriving&total=18&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

sometimes the how and why are questioned.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stonehenge was abandoned wasn't it, way before the Romans came. I never understood exactly why.
Was it a common-sense Iron Age rejection of the nearest Britain ever came to the pyramids, vast slave-labour civil engineering programmes?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stonehenge was abandoned wasn't it... I never understood exactly why.


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It and it's Celtic & Druidic human sacrifice were used for mind control and abandoned for all good reasons.


.... ?

Come again? I'd also add that stories of Druidic human sacrifice are just as likely Roman propaganda.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd also add that stories of Druidic human sacrifice are just as likely Roman propaganda.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not a good example to show using nice flat American concrete - try turning a 10 ton block around with a stone underneath it on wet english soil - the stone would simply be pushed into the ground.


You must have missed the bit where he moved an entire barn 300ft across fields Tele.

But you're on the right 'track' - he did use the caterpillar track principle of laying a suitable surface ahead to travel over.

Whether he's right or not - and I see no technical reason why he shouldn't be, given the level of technology he uses - it's certainly a practical contender which successfully challenges the vast organisation of slave labour normally accepted as the method used.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You must have missed the bit where he moved an entire barn 300ft across fields Tele.

Human ingenuity never ceases to amaze me.


No, didn't miss the barn, I ignored that as that was an even worse example. If you look at the video, you only see him swivelling a building with no bottom/floor. Are we suggesting he raised the building and put a rock under it then moved it by the principle he suggests?

Every example on film shows a nice flat even concrete base - if there were huge stones moving across damp uneven muddy soil then it would be worth taking note - there simply isn't, so it has yet to be demonstrated.

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You must have missed the bit where he moved an entire barn 300ft across fields Tele.

Human ingenuity never ceases to amaze me.


No, didn't miss the barn, I ignored that as that was an even worse example. If you look at the video, you only see him swivelling a building on a flat even base. Are we suggesting he raised the building and put a rock under it then moved it by the principle he suggests?

Every example on film shows a nice flat even concrete base - if there were huge stones moving across damp uneven muddy soil then it would be worth taking note - there simply isn't, so it has yet to be demonstrated.

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Every example on film shows a nice flat even concrete base - if there were huge stones moving across damp uneven muddy soil then it would be worth taking note - there simply isn't, so it has yet to be demonstrated.


Just so, and the trick - just like with the tank track principle - is to lay a flat base across the terrain for the roller technique to work, probably ripping it up behind them and relaying it ahead of the direction of travel.

For that reason, I still think he may be on to something.

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Google translate from Russian. Lots of pictures
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Stonehenge was built in 1954

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2 Fss69100.livejournal.com%2F513319.html
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Google translate from Russian. Lots of pictures
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Stonehenge was built in 1954

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2 Fss69100.livejournal.com%2F513319.html



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehenge


Further it was a calendar, also for the 7th year and end of the 50th year too.

Something the diggers and levelers (and many others) would have been interested in, had they have known.
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PICTURES: Crowds gathered at Avebury and Stonehenge for Summer Solstice
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http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/16305188.pictures-crowds-gathered -at-avebury-and-stonehenge-for-summer-solstice/

THOUSANDS gathered to watch the sun rise at Stonehenge and Avebury this morning to welcome the longest day of the year.

Solstice-watchers were blessed with clear-skies as they watched the day break.

The sites hold special significance for members of the Druid and Pagan community, who perform rituals and celebrations at the summer and winter solstices.

Around 600 people joined in the celebrations in Avebury.

Two people were arrested at Avebury, a 30-year-old man for being drunk and disorderly, and a 25-year-old man was arrested for drink driving.

Superintendent Dave Minty, said: " We are really pleased with how Solstice 2018 has gone, it really has been a great success.

"English Heritage welcomed approximately 9,500 people at Stonehenge, and the majority of those who came to celebrate the longest day of the year did so in a safe and peaceful manner.

"There was a really great atmosphere and we are really pleased to say there were no arrests at Stonehenge.

"Approximately 600 people joined the celebrations in Avebury which also saw the public embracing the spirit of Summer Solstice. Two people were arrested at Avebury, a man age 30 was arrested for drunk and disorderly, and a man age 25 was arrested for drink driving.

"The joint approach to planning the event with Wiltshire Council, security staff, the Highways Agency and English Heritage is key to ensuring visitors to Summer Solstice have a safe and enjoyable time and we look forward to Solstice 2019."

Artist Tom Yendell from Hampshire, was amongst the thousands who flocked to Stonehenge at sunrise today, capturing the moment the sun rises behind the Heel stone in a painting using only his mouth, a set of watercolour paints and the iconic landscape behind him.

Mr Yendell, who is an active board member for the Foot & Mouth Painting Artists wanted to create an entirely unique, innovative painting that depicted the significance of Stonehenge.

He said: “Stonehenge is a monumental British landmark which I have been keen to paint for years.

"Painting live at Summer Solstice was the perfect opportunity to celebrate the 100th anniversary and create memories for years to come.

"It has been a privilege to share the work we do as members of the Mouth and Foot Painting Artists with the general public at such an iconic location.”

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‘A Modern Reconstruction’ – The Truth About Stonehenge
https://principia-scientific.org/a-modern-reconstruction-the-truth-abo ut-stonehenge/

Published on March 5, 2019 - Written by Roger Taverner

Die Bilder von Stonehenge, die Sie nicht zu sehen bekommen ...
For decades the official Stonehenge guidebooks have been full of fascinating facts and figures and theories surrounding the world’s greatest prehistoric monument.

What the glossy brochures do not mention, however, is the systematic rebuilding of the 4,000 year old stone circle throughout the 20th Century.

The video below and pictures show workers on the site in 1901 in a restoration which caused outrage at the time but which is rarely referred to in official guidebooks.


For it means that Stonehenge, jewel in the crown of Britain’s heritage industry, is not all it seems. Much of what the ancient site’s millions of visitors see in fact dates back less than 50 years.

From 1901 to 1964, the majority of the stone circle was restored in a series of makeovers which have left it, in the words of one archaeologist, as ‘a product of the 20th century heritage industry’. But the information is markedly absent from the guidebooks and info-phones used by tourists at the site.


Coming in the wake of the news that the nearby Avebury stone circle was almost totally rebuilt in the 1920s, the revelation about Stonehenge has caused embarrassment among archaelogists. English Heritage, the guardian of the monument, is to rewrite the official guide, which dismisses the Henge’s recent history in a few words.

Dave Batchelor, English Heritage’s senior archaeologist said he would personally rewrite the official guide. ‘The detail was dropped in the Sixties’, he admitted. ‘But times have changed and we now believe this is an important piece of the Stonehenge story and must be told’.
Cambridge University archeological archivist and leading Stonehenge author Christopher Chippindale admitted: ‘Not much of what we see at Stonehenge hasn’t been touched in some way’. And historical research student Brian Edwards, who recently revealed that the nearby Avebury Monument had been totally rebuilt, has found rare pictures of Stonehenge being restored.

He said:

‘It has been as if Stonehenge had been historically cleansed’. ‘For too long people have been kept in the dark over the Stonehenge restoration work. I am astonished by how few people know about it. It is wonderful the guide book is going to tell the full story in the future.’

A million visitors a year are awe-struck as they look back in time into another age and marvel at the primitive technology and muscle-power which must have been employed transporting the huge monoliths and raising them on Salisbury Plain. They gasp as they are told about this strangely spiritual site…. mankind’s first computer, its standing stones and precise lintels, lining up magically and mysteriously with the heavens above and the solstice suns.

But now, as if to head off a potential great archaeological controversy – and following interest displayed by historical researcher Brian Edwards and a local newspaper, the brochures will be re-written, to include the ‘forgotten years’.

The years when teams of navvies sat aboard the greatest cranes in the British Empire to hoist stones upright; drag leaning trilithons into position, replace fallen lintels which once sat atop the huge sarsens.

As Mr Edwards – the erstwhile enfant terrible of British archaeology following revelations that nearby Avebury was a total 20s and 30s rebuild by marmalade millionaire Alexander Keiller – says:

‘What we have been looking at is a 20th Century landscape, which is reminiscent of what Stonehenge MIGHT have been like thousands of years ago. It has been created by the heritage industry and is NOT the creation of prehistoric people. What we saw at the Millennium is less than 50 years old.‘

In archaeological terms the re-writing of the guidebooks is dynamite. English Heritage run Stonehenge on behalf of the nation, and an English Heritage insider revealed:

‘Dark forces were at work in the 70s, when a decision was taken to drop the information about the restorations. Now that is about to change.’

The Restoration and Rebuild

The first restoration of Stonehenge was launched 100 years ago this year.

And, in 1901, as the builders went to work, The Times letters column was full of bucolic missives of complaint. But the first stage of ‘restoration’ thundered ahead regardless and the style guru of the day, John Ruskin, released the maxim which was to outlive him…. ‘Restoration is a lie,’ he stormed.

Nevertheless the Stonehenge makeover was to gather momentum and more work was carried out in 1919, 1920, 1958, 1959 and 1964. Christopher Chippindale, curator at the Cambridge University Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology and Anthropology, and author of Stonehenge Complete, admits:

‘Nearly all the stones have been moved in some way and are standing in concrete.’

A stone was straightened and set in concrete in 1901, six further stones in 1919 and 1920, three more in 1959 and four in 1964. There was also the excavation of the Altar stone and re-erection of the Trilithon in 1958.

The guide book ‘Stonehenge and Neighbouring Monuments’ , and the audio tour of the Henge omit any comprehensive mention of the rebuilding in the 20th Century. Only on page 18 is there a slight reference…’A number of the leaning and fallen stones have been straightened and re-erected.’ But even that official guide book does contain clues to the large scale restoration, which was not deemed worth a full entry.

Why does John Constable’s 1835 painting of the Henge on pages 18 and 19 look so vastly different from the latter-day pristine photograph across pages 28 and 29? REASON: A lot of restoration work had taken place in between the two images being recorded.

And, during long hot summers it would be possible – if one could get near to the stones – to see the turf peeling back to reveal the concrete boots into which the majority of the stones are now set. A dead give-away, but difficult to spot now as proximity to the Henge is limited.

Our pictures clearly show the rebuilding in progress. Some were discovered by Mr Chippendale and were used in a revised edition of his book. Many of those have since been lost. Others were found by Mr Edwards who unearthed guide books from the time when Stonehenge was not ashamed of its past and featured photographs and stories of the restorations.

‘The news is sensational,’ said Mr Edwards, a decorate student at the University of the West of England.

‘Once I realised how much work had been carried out, I was amazed to discover that practically no-one outside of the henge knows of its reconstruction in the last 100 years. I have always thought that if people are bothering to make a trip to Stonehenge, from home or abroad, then the least they should expect is a true story.’

Read more at www.indymedia.org.uk

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Jerry Krause
March 5, 2019 at 3:47 pm | #
Hi Roger,

What’s going on with you and David Anderson (https://principia-scientific.org/new-data-reveals-ingenuity-that-buil t-stonehenge/) and archaeologist Mike Parker Pearson?

It’s like R. J. C. Atkinson never wrote the book–Stonehenge–(1956).

I had challenged PSI readers and certainly David and I now challenge you to tell us what was the stone of Stonehenge which Pearson absolutley ignored in the nearly hour video I watched on the OPBS channel in OR USA. No one has yet responded to this challenge.

So David, now that you should be aware of this response (and challenge) to your article here on PSI, the ball is in your court.

Have a good day, Jerry
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Tom0mason
March 5, 2019 at 10:27 pm | #
Thank-you!
Finally I have vindication for what I’ve told people for decades.
I learned of the restorations way back in the 1960s when as a young lad I was on a school trip to Stonehenge. At the time I strayed away from my main party and found myself overhearing a conversation of two men (I now believe they were university students or lecturers, either way they seemed very learned.) They were in a heated discussion as to the true position of the stones. They were studying charts (of what sounded like the original positions of the stones) and getting into a very heated debate of where they should have been placed.
Unfortunately I was soon called back to my party with a stern warning not to wander off again. When I returned to my group I relayed what I had overheard, however I was told in no uncertain terms by one of the school teachers, that I was mistaken as the stones have stood where they were for thousands of years.

Over the years I found out that many restorations were done and that the positions that they are currently in are somewhat arbitrary.
So thank-you again for confirming what I had known, and to all the people that boohooed what I told them, all I can say is hopefully one day they will learn the truth. Maybe they’ll also learn that a consensus does not make an opinion into a fact.
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