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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I recieved the reply below,is there really any difference between common purpose and the common purpose fund.

I think what you are referring to is "Common Purpose, the leadership development company". The Common Purpose Fund is a whole other kettle of fish that we aren't certain about (?) possibly another line of research.Of course it's a diversionary technique
Well done for doing it. I must get on to Bradford Met and ask the same questions.
We really need lists of Common Purpose graduates, what positions they're in, the cost of their courses, and ultimately, the content of their courses, and the follow up to their 'graduation' and sanctions possibly brought against them for breach of their guidelines
Remember there's also the police and health trusts to go at as well as many publically funded local community centres
We in West Yorkshire were screwed over in our attempt to present a meeting regarding the 7/7 bombings by the director of the Hamara Centre, centre of Mohammed Siddique Khan's efforts.
The Hamara Centre is a Common Purpose graduate affilliate
We have it on good advice that their funding was threatened
Well, we've all got mortgages to pay, kids to provide for and so on

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Rory Winter wrote:
Who is Bill Hicks and why would he be spinning?


Bill Hicks, one of the finest comedians to ever exist. Spoke truth to power like few do, spent a good deal of time talking about the power structures that would control our lives, encouraged freedom and evolution for all people, the destruction of the military superstructure, etc. etc.

Unfortunately, he died in 1994 of pancreatic cancer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks

On Marketing

"By the way, if anyone here is in advertising or marketing... kill yourself. Just a little thought, I'm just trying to plant seeds... Seriously though, if you are, do. There is no rationalization for what you do, and you are Satan's little helpers. Kill yourself, seriously. You are the ruiners of all things good. You think there's a joke coming... there's not; you are satanspawn, filling the world with bile and garbage, you are f***ed and you are f***ing us, kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself. It's the only way to save your f***ing soul. I don't care how you do it; suck a tailpipe, borrow a gun from a yank friend... rid the world of your evil presence.

I know what all the marketing people are thinking now. They're thinking 'Ooh, Bill's going after that anti-marketing market. That's a huuuge market... very smart.' "

On JFK

"Kennedy. I love talking about the Kennedy assassination, because to me, it's a great example of a totalitarian government that partitions information out any way they deem necessary and therefore keep us in the... dark... oh, sorry, wrong meeting. S**t. That's the meeting we're having tomorrow at the docks.

I love talking about Kennedy. I was just down in Dallas, Texas. You know you can go down there, and Dealey Plaza, where Kennedy was assassinated, and you can actually go to the 6th floor of the school book depository. It's a museum, called... The Assassination Museum; I think, named that after the assassination. Can't be too sure of the chronology here, but...

Anyway, they have the window set up to look exactly like it did on that day, and it's really accurate, you know, 'cause Oswald's not in it. Painstaking accuracy. It's true! It's called the sniper's nest, and it's all glassed in, so you can't actually get to the window itself. And the reason they did that, of course, is that they didn't want thousands of American tourists getting there each year and going *looks around*

'There's no f***ing way! I can't even see the road! S**t, they're lying to us!'

There's no way! Not unless Oswald was hanging by his toes, upside down from the ledge... either that, or some pigeons grabbed onto him, flew him over the motorcade... surely, someone would've seen that! You know, there were rumors of anti-Castro pigeons seen drinking in bars, and they were overheard saying 'Coo, Coo'

And people's attitudes in the States about it... people keep coming up to me saying 'Bill, c'mon man, stop talking about Kennedy, let it go; it was a long time ago, just forget about it.'

I'm like, Well alright, then don't bring up Jesus to me! As long as we're talking about shelf life here..."

(There's more, but in the interests of keeping this post under a literal mile long, I'm going to cut the JFK bit short)

And one more thing from Bill, one of my particular favorites:

Bill on Life

"Is there a point to my act? I would say there is. The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think it's real, 'cause that's how powerful our minds are; and the ride goes up and down, round and round, it has thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud. And it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question, "Is this real? Or is this just a ride?"

And other people have remembered. And they come back to us and they say, "Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because... this is just a ride." And we... kill those people. "Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride! Shut him up! Look at my big bank account! And my family! This has to be real!"

It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that. You ever notice that? And let the demons run amok? But it doesn't matter, because... it's just a ride. And we can change it, anytime we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money; a choice. A choice, right now, between fear and love.

The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off; the eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride; take all that money we spend on weapons and defense each year, and instead spend it feeding, clothing, and educating the poor of the world which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we can explore space, together, forever. Both inner and outer. Forever. In peace."

If you want to check out more, I would highly recommend all of his main albums, Dangerous, Relentless, Arizona Bay, and Rant in E-Minor.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, that's a great piece, Tmc! Very Happy Well written and most entertaining. Must be the spirit of Ol' Bill Hicks guided yer hand! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The similarities in the structure of the Soviet Union and the European Union:


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How the KGB infiltrated the West, according to Yuri Bezmenov:


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Caz, I thought this thread was about the War on Children and Common Purpose? How did the EU suddenly creep in? Are you suggesting that the EU is at war against children? And as for the spurious nonsense that ghastly little types like Gerrish are suggesting there is not one iota of proof for what are no more than allegations linking the EU with Common Purpose.

And do you know Bukovsky's background and his connections to the Congress of Cultural Freedom and the CIA?

On Bukovsky, please see

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=112578#112578

Go to bed with someone like Bukovsky & you don't know what you'll catch!

So the KGB infiltrated the West, eh? Then how is it that The CIA was so successful in infiltrating the Soviet Union and eastern Europe? And how about the relentless brain-washing that is conducted on the people of the West by their own governments? Have you learnt nothing from Iraq, Afghanistan and those who perpetrated 911, 77 etc?

The mind boggles!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The EU didn't suddenly creep in Rory, you mention it here:

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Gerrish is to be commended for having brought Common Purpose under public scrutiny. It's the rest of Gerrish's allegations which I find quite outrageous: all this talk about Communists and the inference --and it's never more than that-- of CP being some sort of front for the EU!

Where is his evidence? Anyone could make up the most outrageous allegations but where they can furnish no proof their allegations remain no more than such. There are people on this Forum who are willing to believe anything that is said about 'the evil EU'. That suggests a dangerous gullibility.

Despite some very underhand attempts to undermine this Forum and to make it into an anti-EU vehicle by those of a gatekeeper-mentality it will never become that. Meantime these mischief-makers must expect not to go unchallenged. I have no doubt of your own integrity and concern in this matter though I cannot say the same of others.

So let me make my position clear: it is not Gerrish's exposé of Common Purpose that I challenge. It is his wildly unfounded accusations claiming that in some way it is part of an EU operation. If he has evidence of this then he must make it public.


I thought you might be pleased to see other people's research to get a broader picture.

Clearly, one is saying that the EU and the Soviet Union have common ground, and the other that the Soviet Union had absolute intention to shape people's perceptions of the world.
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The EU didn't suddenly creep in Rory, you mention it here:


I mentioned it in the context of the utterly spurious allegations that are being made by Gerrish, not in order to introduce an entirely different subject onto your thread. What Gerrish is doing by tying the EU and Common Purpose together is dishonest in the extreme.

Do you know why? Because Gerrish belongs to & supports UKIP, a minority fringe party that has very little support in this country. Gerrish is a dedicated anti-EU type. That's one thing and quite another when he pulls rabbits out of the air & makes accusations that he clearly cannot prove!

Your readers may be interested to know that I have written to both the Secretariat of the European Commission and the European Parliament to ask them if any links exist between those two institutions and Common Purpose. When I have replies, I will make them public.

I am fed up of lies and innuendo by people like Gerrish and to see how many folk there are who will swallow it entire, hook, line & sinker.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm maybe from the same age range and political background as you, Rory, but I find Gerrish good I don't care about the appeal to the comfortable middle englander. Thats all to the good, and there are some UKIP types who are fully on message, never mind the disagreements on points of detail
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rory, my friend.

Having now met and talked with Brian for over five hours I know he is a good man who simply wants to defeat the NWO by exposing them using non-violence. He is also aware of how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember also that old saying "My enemy's enemy is my friend!"

IMHO Brian is okay and I trust him.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone find evidence that Common Purpose is linked to the European Union in any way?

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IMHO Brian is okay and I trust him.


Justin, all I have to go on is what I have seen on the videos of Brian's talks on the Net. I have studied those videos carefully and on the basis of those studies I have to say that the techniques I see being used by Gerrish are disturbing. I have described these techniques in this thread and elsewhere.

To give just one example: it is manifestly dishonest to make an allegation without being able to substantiate it. Yet that is precisely what Gerrish does in using a guilt-by-association technique to suggest that somehow the EU is conspiring with Common Purpose. Anyone can make wild accusations. It's much more difficult to substantiate accusations.

I have now written to both the Commission and the Europarliament asking them what their links are, if any, with Common Purpose. I already have a reply from the Europarliament:

A/6699, 15 April 2008

Dear Mr. Winter,

Thank you for your message to the European Parliament in which you ask whether the European Parliament or the EU Commission are linked in some way with an organisation called "Common Purpose".

I am unable to speak for the European Commission, but you are of course at liberty to contact the Commission Office in Edinburgh.

As far as the European Parliament is concerned, there is no official link of any kind with the organisation you mention.

Members of the European Parliament, like MPs in the UK, are free citizens and may therefore have dealings with a host of organisations in the course of their constituency work or in a private capacity.

Sincerely,

Graham R. Chambers
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Directorate General for Communication
Correspondence with Citizens Unit


When I have a reply from the Commission, I will publish it also.

Brian Gerrish may be a good man in your estimation. I understand he does a lot of good, public work. But that doesn't stop him being a social or closet fascist and from what I have heard him say -- "Red Menace," "Socialist, Communist conspiracies," "Common Purpose is the Communist Party of the EU"-- he certainly fits that category.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What Gerrish is doing by tying the EU and Common Purpose together is dishonest in the extreme.


I think the jury is still out on that issue Rory. Further research and investigation needs to be done before an informed judgement is made imo.

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Because Gerrish belongs to & supports UKIP


Totally untrue Rory. Brian informed the audience at Blackpool that he joined the UKIP party and left it unhappy about how it was being controlled and directed. Similar to Mr Ickes experience with the Green Party.

I suspect Brians interest in supporting tUKIP was their anti EU stance.

Its a pity Rory that you allow your prejudice to destroy an open minded approach. Go along to one of Brians presentations, listen to what he has to say, ask questions, then be the judge.

His view on the political system was forget it your wasting your time and energy. The only way is individual responsibility and educating a subjugated public . A view I totally agree with.


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Having now met and talked with Brian for over five hours I know he is a good man who simply wants to defeat the NWO by exposing them using non-violence. He is also aware of how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember also that old saying "My enemy's enemy is my friend!"

IMHO Brian is okay and I trust him.


I certainly second that Justin but plaease everyone check out Brians information yourself and you be the judge.[

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its a pity Rory that you allow your prejudice to destroy an open minded approach. Go along to one of Brians presentations, listen to what he has to say, ask questions, then be the judge.


Pikey, what I know of Gerrish is what I have seen on the videos and that is what I find so disturbing. Anyone who says that "Common Purpose is the Communist Party of the EU" is missing a few marbles! Similarly all this nonsense of the EU attempting to create a "Socialist state" in Britain!

You say that Gerrish has left UKIP. Well, I am glad to hear that at least. But his pals, such as Edward Spalton, organiser of Campaign for an Independent Britain are well-in with extreme right-wing organisations like the Freedom Association.

All this, taken together with Gerrish's own paranoid comments about "Communism" and "Socialism" show him to some sort of McCarthyite nut. Some of my own relatives are similar nuts. I wouldn't discuss anything other than the weather with them and I certainly wouldn't credit their political opinions as worthy of note!

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I'm maybe from the same age range and political background as you, Rory, but I find Gerrish good I don't care about the appeal to the comfortable middle englander. Thats all to the good, and there are some UKIP types who are fully on message, never mind the disagreements on points of detail


Why, if as he says he has it, does Gerrish not publicise his evidence of the conspiracy between the EU and Common Purpose?

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I guess this is the sort of thing which Bezmenov is talking about. Don't forget, you're not actually supposed to know what's going on.

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RONALD G. HAVELOCK’S THE CHANGE AGENT’S GUIDE TO INNOVATION IN EDUCATION WAS published
(Educational Technology Publishing: Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey, 1973). This Guide,
which contains authentic case studies on how to sneak in controversial curricula and teaching
strategies, or get them adopted by naïve school boards, is the educator’s bible for bringing
about change in our children’s values. Havelock’s Guide was funded by the U.S. Office of
Education and the Department of Health, Education and Welfare, and has continued to receive
funding well into the 1980s. It has been republished in a second edition in 1995 by the same
publishers.


You can actually buy a copy and read it for yourself! It's here:

http://www.amazon.com/Change-Agents-Guide-Innovation-Education/dp/0877 780390?tag=dogpile-20

Front Cover:

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The Change Agent's Guide to Innovation in Education

Education the way it is now
1) Relationship
2) Diagnosis
3) Acquisition
4) Choosing
5) Acceptance
6) Self-renewal ......to.......

Education the way we would like it to be in the future.


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Are you suggesting that the EU is at war against children?


No, I wasn't suggesting that the EU is at war against children........ But they could well be. There are indeed some bizarre things going on at the EU level with respect to children:
http://romania-forexportonly.blogspot.com/2008/02/european-lobby-expos ed.html
http://www.med.yale.edu/chldstdy/icmh/adoption.html
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13389
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13373


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I guess this is the sort of thing which Bezmenov is talking about. Don't forget, you're not actually supposed to know what's going on.


Caz, I know this sort of thing goes on at governmental level. The individual, whether s/he knows it or not, is subject to a daily, incessant stream of propaganda both from governments and corporations. For example, I'm just downloading an article from Cuba's Granma newspaper accusing the US Government of having all along been behind the current China-bashing we have seen. I thought as much.

See http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2008/abril/mar15/16china-i.html

Having said that, anyone who troubles to examine the EU Parliament and Commission will be struck by how open both these organisations are in comparison with any similar organisation in Europe, bar perhaps Switzerland.

See for example, http://europa.eu/debateeurope/index_en.htm

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ and http://europa.eu/index_en.htm

Certainly, the Westminster lot don't even compare and I think we in Scotland have more open-ness and accountability than does Westminster. So I maintain that a lot of the hostility aimed at the EU is both uninformed and unfair.

But it goes on and on on this Forum which I have decided is less anything to do with 911 than an anti-EU pulpit preaching to the converted.

I understand you live in Australia, is that right? So how much direct hands-on experience do you have with the EU? And have you read your fellow-Australian, Andrew Parkins', essay on Federalism?

See http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=115183#115183

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No, I wasn't suggesting that the EU is at war against children........ But they could well be. There are indeed some bizarre things going on at the EU level with respect to children:


Really? Is this innuendo or fact? What, precisely, are the "bizarre things" you refer to?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These ones:

http://romania-forexportonly.blogspot.com/2008/02/european-lobby-expos ed.html
http://www.med.yale.edu/chldstdy/icmh/adoption.html
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13389
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Caz! Very Happy The first, second and fourth link have nothing whatsoever to do with the European Union! The third appears to have some relationship to Romania's accession to the EU & will need some more investigation.

But, with respect, it seems to me that you are getting confused between events in a certain country, Romania, and the EU. The EU would never be associated with anything resembling child exploitation and if, God forbid, it did through a country like Romania the European Parliament would soon be up in arms, I can assure you!

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109. Calls for consideration to be given to the possibility of devising a Community instrument on adoptions, developed in conformity with the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child and other relevant international standards, that improves the quality of care with regard to information services, the preparation of international adoptions, the processing of international adoption applications and post-adoption services, bearing in mind that all international conventions on the protection of children's rights recognise the right of abandoned children and orphans to have a family and be protected


What is wrong with this EP Resolution???

Someone named Marie is making a lot of fuss about it at

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13389

Why? Is it that you both object to all international adoptions, seeing it in some way to be exploitation? Would you rather have unwanted orphans leading a life of misery in their own countries?

What does all this boil down to? That you object to international adoptions? That you object to the EU and the Council of Europe preparing legislation in line with the United Nations to regulate such international adoptions?

What would you prefer? International child adoptions --which occur all the time-- to go unregulated? For the EU to have no protective laws to cover such adoptions? What exactly is it that concerns you and Marie?

And I guess you think you have found an ally in our Obergruppenfuhrer Administrator? Worthy You'll have a shock coming to you!

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Caz, please understand, I'm not running a Sherlock Holmes agency here! Very Happy

I'm already inquiring into Common Purpose because while our Europhobe friends here present are happy to sneer, jibe & criticise none of them are bothered to seek out the truth.

I quickly read through the thread begun by Marie and honestly I can't see what the fuss is about. Am I missing something?

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I'm just downloading an article from Cuba's Granma newspaper accusing the US Government of having all along been behind the current China-bashing we have seen. I thought as much.

See http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2008/abril/mar15/16china-i.html

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JOSÉ Ramón Fernández, president of the Cuban Olympic Committee, has confirmed that the United States is leading the campaign against China and attempting to hinder the organization of the forthcoming Olympic Games.

"During the discussion and analysis of this issue, dozens of presidents of National Olympic Committees firmly defended the tournament against the attacks that are damaging these wholesome sporting ideals, as well as the right of the Chinese people to enjoy, without any pressure whatsoever, the Games," he added.


Off topic I know, but I would be looking at much deeper research than the above, on this one issue. And any other. Also, don't see where the evidence is for this 'confirmation'. Maybe I'm missing something!
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Off topic I know, but I would be looking at much deeper research than the above, on this one issue.


Ok, I just mentioned that one in passing as I'd seen it. There's this as well which I dug up some time ago:

http://chimesofreedom.blogspot.com/2008/03/tibet-uprising-us-governmen t-funding.html

I know there are similar articles you'll find on Global Research such as this:

'China and America: The Tibet Human Rights PsyOp'

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8673

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Some consider www.globalresearch.ca to be a compromised website.

http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm
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Indeed, and some --including myself--consider Fintan Dunne at BreakforNews to be a CIA shill. So finally it's up to you who & what you're going to believe!

Nobody's ever going to change your views except yourself ...

I'd rather listen to Michel Chossudovsky than that conceited & paranoid Irishman, Fintan Dunne, who sees a conspiracy around every corner except those in his own house. Perhaps it's all that alternative medicine he takes that does it ... Mr. Green

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More China-bashing nonsense from, this time, CNN showing how carelessly unprofessional is the faked-up propaganda being used in the West!

NOTE CAREFULLY: The Police shown arresting Tibetans are not Chinese but Indian Police. Yet the piece is presented by CNN as having taken place in China! Shows how much CNN thinks of its audience, no?

See http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8697


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Rory, I was questioning your research techniques:

Caz wrote:
Some consider www.globalresearch.ca to be a compromised website.

http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm


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Indeed, and some --including myself--consider Fintan Dunne at BreakforNews to be a CIA shill. So finally it's up to you who & what you're going to believe!

Nobody's ever going to change your views except yourself ...

I'd rather listen to Michel Chossudovsky than that conceited & paranoid Irishman, Fintan Dunne, who sees a conspiracy around every corner except those in his own house. Perhaps it's all that alternative medicine he takes that does it ...


I still do. I said 'some...' consider www.globalresearch.ca to be compromised......... I did not say 'I consider...'

This was not an invitation to introduce a new topic onto a thread about Common Purpose.
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This was not an invitation to introduce a new topic onto a thread about Common Purpose.


Well, it may not have been in your mind, Caz, and it was not my intention to do that either. Please go back & see how it came into the dialogue.

But your phrase, "consider etc" had to be challenged. It's very easy to cast aspersions about any & everyone on the Net. God knows, I get called enough names! But much more difficult to prove one's allegations.

And to be precise, what you actually said was "Some consider www.globalresearch.ca to be a compromised website." You don't go into any detail who "some" might be and if "some" includes yourself. Generally speaking, I'm not keen on the term as, for example, "some" might suggest that you were hiding behind the aspersions that "some" were casting about Global Research.

Would "some" be right or wrong?

Personally, after reading his columns at length, I do not hold Fintan Dunne in very high esteem. If anyone's a shill (gatekeeper) it's someone of that ilk! So your own doubts about my research techniques are, by the same token, put into question. And, to get back on topic, Brian Gerrish is another who makes accusations which he is just unable to prove.

As Michael Caine would put it, "There's a lot of it about ..."

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from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demos_%28UK_think_tank%29
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Demos is an influential think tank based in the United Kingdom. It was founded in 1993 by journalists from Marxism Today, the theoretical journal of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB). In the run up to the 1997 UK general election it was seen as being close to the Labour Party, in particular ex-prime minister Tony Blair… Julia Middleton is a trustee of Demos, and also CEO of the influential Common Purpose.

If you either read this book: http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs/DDDoA.sml.pdf or read my rather rough cut and paste efforts below, this is certianly not new, anyway. It's rather old news indeed.

From ‘The Deliberate Dumbing Down of the American Mind’ by Charlotte Iserbyt.

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* [Ed. Note: M. Maxine Tremaine of Massachusetts, recognized for her careful research related to international affairs, made the following statements regarding Willian Boyce Thompson before the National Convention of Women for Constitutional Government in a July 1983 speech entitled “Russia Is the Model Country of International Bankers and Industrialists Administered by the United Nations Headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland”: “William Boyce Thompson personally contributed $1 million to the Russian Revolution. He also arranged for the transfer of money from the United States to (the Communist revolutionaries).”]

* A DELIBERATE MATH “DUMB DOWN” WAS SERIOUSLY DISCUSSED IN 1928. A TEACHER NAMED O.A. Nelson, John Dewey, Edward Thorndike (who conducted early behavioral psychology experiments with chickens), and other Council on Foreign Relations members attended a
Progressive Education Association meeting in 1928 at which O.A. Nelson was informed that
the purpose of “new math” was to dumb down students. Nelson revealed in a later interview
with Young Parents Alert that the Progressive Education Association was a communist front.
According to the National Educator (July, 1979):

Mr. O.A. Nelson, retired educator, has supplied the vitally important documentation
needed to support the link-up between the textbooks and the Council on Foreign Relations.
His letter was first printed in “Young Parents Alert” (Lake Elmo, Minnesota). His story
is self-explanatory.

I know from personal experience what I am talking about. In December 1928,
I was asked to talk to the American Association for the Advancement of Science. On
December 27th, naïve and inexperienced, I agreed. I had done some special work in
teaching functional physics in high school. That was to be my topic. The next day, the
28th, a Dr. Ziegler asked me if I would attend a special educational meeting in his room
after the AAAS meeting. We met from 10 o’clock [p.m.] until after 2:30 a.m.
We were 13 at the meeting. Two things caused Dr. Ziegler, who was Chairman of
the Educational Committee of the Council on Foreign Relations, to ask me to attend...
my talk on the teaching of functional physics in high school, and the fact that I was a
member of a group known as the Progressive Educators of America, which was nothing
but a Communist front. I thought the word “progressive” meant progress for better
schools. Eleven of those attending the meeting were leaders in education. Drs. John
Dewey and Edward Thorndike, from Columbia University, were there, and the others
were of equal rank. I checked later and found that ALL were paid members of the
Communist Party of Russia. I was classified as a member of the Party, but I did not
know it at the time.
The sole work of the group was to destroy our schools! We spent one hour and
forty-five minutes discussing the so-called “Modern Math.” At one point I objected
because there was too much memory work, and math is reasoning; not memory. Dr.
Ziegler turned to me and said, “Nelson, wake up! That is what we want... a math that
the pupils cannot apply to life situations when they get out of school!” That math was
not introduced until much later, as those present thought it was too radical a change.
A milder course by Dr. Breckner was substituted but it was also worthless, as far as
understanding math was concerned. The radical change was introduced in 1952. It was the one we are using now. So, if pupils come out of high school now, not knowing any math, don’t blame them. The results are supposed to be worthless.

[Ed. Note: Mr. Nelson was formerly assistant principal at Wilson High School, Minneapolis,
Minnesota, as well as Johnson High School in St. Paul. This writer was fortunate enough
to verify the above story by calling a teacher colleague of the late Mr. Nelson. Also,
members of the “Young Parents Alert” in Lake Elmo, Minnesota provided the writer with
an audiocasette of the speech he gave at a Young Parents Alert education conference
on April 28, 1979.]

* A flock of individuals of collectivist persuasion jumped on Monsieur Mantoux’s bandwagon
in “The Troubling Thirties.” Aldous Huxley brought along his Brave New World; Professor George
Counts contributed his Dare the School Build a New Social Order?; William Z. Foster (national
chairman of the Communist Party of the United States of America) wrote his Toward a Soviet
America; John Dewey co-authored The Humanist Manifesto I; the Carnegie Corporation added its
Conclusions and Recommendations for the Social Studies and its Eight-Year Study (which was in
the 1990s referred to by the Education Commission of the States as the model for Outcome-Based
Education); and surprisingly, Herbert Hoover proposed a Research Committee on Recent Social
Trends to Implement the Planned Society.

* PROFESSOR GEORGE COUNTS OF COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY TEACHERS COLLEGE WROTE DARE the School Build a New Social Order? (John Day Company: New York, 1932). He and many other American educators traveling back and forth to Russia became completely convinced that the Soviet Communist system was the ultimate system. Counts was deeply involved in, and
a member of, the Carnegie Foundation-financed Commission on the Social Studies which
produced the American Historical Association’s Conclusions and Recommendations: Report
of the Commission on the Social Studies in 1934. He was also the author of The American
Road to Culture series (Quinn and Broden, Co., Inc.: Rahway, N.J., 1930–1934) and The
Soviet Challenge to America (John Day Co.: New York, 1931). Excerpts from this entry’s major
focus, Counts’s Dare the School Build a New Social Order?, follow:
If property rights are to be diffused in industrial society, natural resources and all
important forms of capital will have to be collectively owned.... This clearly means that, if
democracy is to survive in the United States, it must abandon its individualistic affiliations in
the sphere of economics.... Within these limits, as I see it, our democratic tradition must of
necessity evolve and gradually assume an essentially collectivistic pattern.
The important point is that fundamental changes in the economic system are
imperative. Whatever services historic capitalism may have rendered in the past, and they
have been many, its days are numbered. With its dedication [to] the principle of selfishness,
its exaltation of the profit motive, its reliance upon the forces of competition, and its placing
of property above human rights, it will either have to be displaced altogether or changed so
radically in form and spirit that its identity will be completely lost.

* TOWARD A SOVIET AMERICA (ELGIN ENTERPRISES, INC.: LOS ANGELES, 1932) BY WILLIAM Z. Foster, national chairman of the Communist Party of the United States, was published. Foster died in 1961 in Moscow and was given a state funeral in the Kremlin. His book called for
a U.S. Department of Education; implementation of a scientific materialist philosophy;
studies revolutionized, being cleansed of religious, patriotic and other features of the
bourgeois ideology; students taught on the basis of Marxian dialectical materialism,
internationalism and general ethics of a new socialist society; present obsolete methods
of teaching will be superseded by a scientific pedagogy. The whole basis and organization
of capitalist science will be revolutionized. Science will become materialistic, hence truly
scientific. God will be banished from the laboratories as well as from the schools.
[Ed. Note: Everything called for by Foster has taken place. “Scientific pedagogy” is
OBE/mastery learning/direct instruction (Pavlov/Skinner). See the 1973 entry for Foundations
of Behavioral Research, Second Edition, for some of the implications of implementing “a
scientific materialistic philosophy.”]

* PRESIDENT HERBERT HOOVER APPOINTED A RESEARCH COMMITTEE ON RECENT SOCIAL TRENDS to
implement the planned society in 1932. (In 1919 Franklin Roosevelt had told a friend that he
personally would like to see Hoover in the White House.) The Research Committee was not
approved nor funded by Congress; it became an Executive Action and was underwritten
by the Rockefeller Foundation. No report was made to Congress or to the people during
the time it functioned. The work of that committee has been called “a monumental
achievement by the largest community of social scientists ever assembled to assess the
social condition of a nation.”1

* EDUCATION FOR DESTRUCTION WAS WRITTEN BY DR. B.R. BURCHETT AND PUBLISHED BY her in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1941. The promotional flyer for Dr. Burchett’s book read as follows:
Arresting... Disturbing... Exciting
NOW for the First Time—the AMAZING STORY OF COMMUNISTS’ INIQUITOUS
CORRUPTION OF AMERICA’S SCHOOL CHILDREN
HOW does the small Sovieteer minority control loyal teachers in our schools and
colleges?
HOW are anti-American, anti-religious, anti-Christ textbooks forced upon teachers
and students?
WHY are Washington and Jefferson ridiculed, while Marx and Lenin are canonized
in the schools?
WHY are boys and girls of 13 taught free love, sexual promiscuity, and other degrading
subjects?

Dr. Burchett has included, opposite the title page of her book, a photograph of one of the
classrooms in the school in which she taught. Under the photo are the words “No communism
in the public schools?” accompanied by the following comments:

An observer, seeing that the largest poster in sight bears the letters U.S.S.R., might
think that this is a picture of a school room in Russia. It is a picture of a room in a public
school in Philadelphia. Did Superintendent Broome know about this? Did the Board of
Education know about it? The picture is taken from Dr. Broome’s Annual Report to the
Board of Education, for the year ended June 30, 1936....
There had been a branch of the Young Communist League meeting in the South
Philadelphia High School. According to the papers Miss Wanger made a great virtue of having
disbanded it. Strangely, there was no “investigation” as to how it came to be meeting here in
the first place, with a regularly assigned room and with a teacher as sponsor.
In spite of the facts presented in Mr. Allen’s circular, and in spite of such an
amazing thing as the meeting of the Young Communist League in the school, Dr. Broome,
Superintendent of Schools, according to the Philadelphia Record of May 7, 1936, said: “I
don’t propose to investigate any general statement; if she (myself, Burchett) has anything
specific to say I will be glad to hear her and investigate.”... Recently, a special committee
was appointed to consider the attacks on the “books of Harold O. Rugg and others on the
ground of subversive teaching.” Dr. Edwin C. Broome was a member of that Committee.
It is not surprising, therefore, that the Rugg books were white-washed in the Committee
report of February 26, 1941.

* THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS (AFT) PUBLISHED THE BOOK AMERICA, RUSSIA and the Communist Party in the Postwar World by John L. Childs and George S. Counts (The John Day Co., New York). (The reader will recall previous entries in this book relating to George S. Counts’s role in the promotion of collectivism in the early part of this century and a similar
agenda mapped out by the Federal Council of Churches referenced earlier.)
Prior to reading excerpts from this remarkably naïve book, the reader is reminded
that it was written after Stalin’s mass terror of the 1930s, which included purges, trials,
self-denunciations, disappearances, imprisonments and executions. Excerpts taken from
the book’s jacket follow:
This book is the first in a series projected for publication by The Commission on
Education and the Postwar World of the American Federation of Teachers.… It demonstrates
beyond all argument that if this war is to be followed by a just and lasting peace, America
and Russia must find a way to get along together. For the United Nations, including America
and Russia, is the only agency that can establish such a peace. Russia’s stupendous
achievements, and her vast area, population, and resources, make her a world power
second to none. We are blind if we think we can continue half grateful ally, half suspicious
rival, of Russia. What then, stands in the way of good relations between America and Russia?
It is not differences in social systems and ideologies, for these can [emphasis in original]
exist side by side…. It is a twenty-five year legacy of mutual suspicion, fear, and active
hostility. The removal of this legacy requires concessions on both sides.

* on his forthcoming book, Walden II. Dr. Hermann J. Muller (future Nobel Prize winner), zoologist and private advocate of forced sterilization and selective eugenics, arrived in the Zoology Department to join long-time faculty member Alfred C. Kinsey. A publicly-allied communist, Muller had authored the book Out of the Night: A Biologist’s View of the Future (The Vanguard Press: New York, 1935), which dealt with selective breeding and the advocacy of cloning of masses of human “resources.” (Thirteen years after Muller’s death in 1967 a sperm bank was established in California in Muller’s honor, the Repository for Germinal Choice, which stores and distributes the sperm of Nobel Prize winners and others of “exceptional” ability.)

A 1962 book published jointly by NTL and the NEA entitled Five Issues in Training
addressed the process of “unfreezing, changing, and refreezing” attitudes in order to bring
about change by stating the following: “The Chinese communists would remove the target
person from those situations and social relationships which tended to confirm and reinforce
the validity of the old attitudes.” (p. 49)

* IN 1950 “MAN OUT OF A JOB: PASADENA TRIES TOO LATE TO HOLD ONTO ITS SCHOOL
Superintendent” was carried in Life Magazine (December 11, 1950). An excerpt follows:
Last month criticism of [Willard] Goslin took a serious turn. A militant citizens’ group
accused him of permitting Communistic influences in the schools—because he continued
already established classes in sex education and favored the elimination of report cards.
Then while Goslin was in New York City on business, the school board sent him a
telegram asking him to resign.

* WHILE YOU SLEPT: OUR TRAGEDY IN ASIA AND WHO MADE IT BY JOHN T. FLYNN (THE
Devin-Adair Co., New York, 1951) was published. This Cold War treatise on the connections between the American left-wing elite and Communist organizers concludes with the following statement and significant quotation which served as an early warning, heralded again and again throughout this book:
While we arm against Russia, we remain defenseless against the enemies within our
walls. It is they, not Stalin’s flyers or soldiers or atomic bombers, who will destroy us. One
of the greatest of all Americans once made a speech on the “Perpetuation of our Political
Institutions.” It is these institutions from which we draw our great strength and promise of
survival. It was Abraham Lincoln who said:
Shall we expect a transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a
blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined with all the treasure of
the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander,
could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trail
of a thousand years…. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I
answer: If it [should] ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from
abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation
of freemen we must live through all times or die by suicide.7

* SUBVERSIVE INFLUENCE IN THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS: HEARINGS BEFORE THE SUBCOMmittee to Investigate the Administration of the Internal Security Act and Other Internal Security Laws of the Committee on the Judiciary: United States Senate, Eighty-Second Congress, Second Session on Subversive Influence in the Educational Process was printed for the Committee on the Judiciary (Printing Office: Washington, D.C., Sept. 9, 10, 23, 24, 25 and October 13, 1952).
Robert Morris was counsel and Benjamin Mandel was director of research for this project.
Excerpts from the testimony of Bella V. Dodd, New York, who was accompanied by her
attorney Godfrey P. Schmidt, follow:
Mr. Morris: Dr. Dodd, how recently have you been associated with the Communist
Party?
Mrs. Dodd: June 1949.
Mr. Morris: Do you mean you severed your connection with the Communist Party
at that time?
Mrs. Dodd: They severed their connection with me. I had previously tried to find
my way out of the Communist Party. In 1949 they formally issued a resolution
of expulsion....
Mr. Morris: Dr. Dodd, will you tell us what relationship you bore to the Communist
Party organization while you were the legislative representative for the Teachers’
Union?
Mrs. Dodd: Well, I soon got to know the majority of the people in the top leadership
of the Teachers’ Union were Communists, or, at least, were influenced by the
Communist organization in the city.
Sen. Homer Ferguson (Mich.): In other words, the steering committee, as I take
your testimony, was used for the purpose of steering the teachers along the line
that communism desired?
Mrs. Dodd: On political questions, yes.... I would say also on certain educational
questions. You take, for instance, the whole question of theory of education,
whether it should be progressive education or whether it should be the more
formal education. The Communist Party as a whole adopted a line of being
for progressive education. And that would be carried on through the steering
committee and into the union.

* NORMAN DODD, A YALE GRADUATE, INTELLECTUAL AND NEW YORK CITY INVESTMENT BANKER,
was chosen to be the research director for the Reece Committee of the U.S. House of
Representatives in 1953. The Reece Committee was named for its creator, Rep. Carroll Reece
of Tennessee, and was formed to investigate the status of tax-exempt foundations. Dodd sent
committee questionnaires to numerous foundations, and as a result of one such request,
Joseph E. Johnson, president of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, invited
Dodd to send a committee staffer to Carnegie headquarters in New York City to examine the
minutes of the meetings of the foundation’s trustees. These minutes had long since been
stored away in a warehouse. Obviously, Johnson, who was a close friend of former Carnegie
Endowment’s president and Soviet spy Alger Hiss, had no idea what was in them.
The minutes revealed that in 1910 the Carnegie Endowment’s trustees asked themselves
this question: “Is there any way known to man more effective than war, to so alter the life
of an entire people?” For a year the trustees sought an effective “peaceful” method to “alter
the life of an entire people.” Ultimately, they concluded that war was the most effective way
to change people. Consequently, the trustees of the Carnegie Endowment for International
Peace next asked themselves: “How do we involve the United States in a war?” And they
answered, “We must control the diplomatic machinery of the United States by first gaining
control of the State Department.” Norman Dodd stated that the trustees’ minutes reinforced
what the Reece Committee had uncovered elsewhere about the Carnegie Endowment: “It had
already become a powerful policy-making force inside the State Department.”
During those early years of the Carnegie Endowment, war clouds were already forming
over Europe and the opportunity of enactment of their plan was drawing near. History proved
that World War I did indeed have an enormous impact on the American people. For the first
time in our history, large numbers of wives and mothers had to leave their homes to work
in war factories, thus effectively eroding woman’s historic role as the “heart” of the family.
The sanctity of the family itself was placed in jeopardy. Life in America was so thoroughly
changed that, according to Dodd’s findings, “[T]he trustees had the brashness to congratulate
themselves on the wisdom and validity of their original decision.” They sent a confidential
message to President Woodrow Wilson, insisting that the war not be ended too quickly.
After the war, the Carnegie Endowment trustees reasoned that if they could get control
of education in the United States they would be able to prevent a return to the way of life
as it had been prior to the war. They recruited the Rockefeller Foundation to assist in such
a monumental task. According to Dodd’s Reece Committee report: “They divided the task
in parts, giving to the Rockefeller Foundation the responsibility of altering education as it
pertains to domestic subjects, but Carnegie retained the task of altering our education in
foreign affairs and about international relations.”
During a subsequent personal meeting with Mr. Dodd, President Rowan Gaither of
the Ford Foundation said, “Mr. Dodd, we invited you to come here because we thought
that perhaps, off the record, you would be kind enough to tell us why the Congress is
interested in the operations of foundations such as ours?” Gaither answered his own rhetorical
question with a startling admission:
Mr. Dodd, all of us here at the policy making level of the foundation have at one time or
another served in the OSS [Office of Strategic Services, CIA forerunner] or the European
Economic Administration, operating under directives from the White House. We operate
under those same directives.... The substance under which we operate is that we shall use
our grant making power to so alter life in the United States that we can be comfortably
merged with the Soviet Union.

Stunned, Dodd replied, “Why don’t you tell the American people what you just told me and you could save the taxpayers thousands of dollars set aside for this investigation?”
Gaither responded, “Mr. Dodd, we wouldn’t think of doing that.”
In public, of course, Gaither never admitted what he had revealed in private. However,
on numerous public occasions Norman Dodd repeated what Gaither had said, and was neither
sued by Gaither nor challenged by the Ford Foundation. Dodd was subsequently warned that
“If you proceed with the investigation as you have outlined, you will be killed.”9
The Reece Committee never completely finished its work of investigating and receiving
testimony in open hearings involving the representatives of the major tax-exempt foundations.
The process was completely disrupted and finally derailed by the deliberately disruptive
activity of one of its members, Congressman Wayne Hays of Ohio. According to general
counsel for the Reece Committee, Renee A. Wormser’s account in Foundations: Their Power
and Influence (Devin-Adair: New York, 1958, p. 341), “[Hays] was frank enough to tell us
that he had been put on the committee by Mr. [Sam] Rayburn, the Democratic Leader in
the House, as the equivalent of a watchdog. Just what he was to ‘watch’ was not made
clear until it became apparent that Mr. Hays was making it his business to frustrate the
investigation to the greatest extent possible.”

[Ed. Note: The Cox Committee, created by Congress as a result of Rep. E.E. Cox of
Georgia submitting a resolution to the House of Representatives in the 82nd Congress, was
a forerunner of the Reece Committee. The Cox Committee was created to “direct a thorough
investigation of foundations.” However, just as the Reece Committee which followed,
the Cox Committee was unable to get to the bottom of tax-exempt foundation affairs.
Again, according to Mr. Wormser, “The Cox Committee did find that there had been a
Communist, Moscow-directed plot to infiltrate American foundations and to use their
funds for Communist purposes.”]

* In a Freedom Forum presentation entitled “Inside U.S. Communism” by Herbert Philbrick,
at Harding College, Searcy, Arkansas, April 16, 1954, and distributed by the National
Education Program, Mr. Philbrick had this to say about cybernetics:
The Communists, I have discovered, have a favorite term for their system of
influencing people in devious ways. The word they use as an over-all title of this
technique is “cybernetics.” Cybernetics as a pure science has a very legitimate and worthwhile
function. It has to do with how to improve conduits and cables, how to make better
coaxial cables for television, how to improve telephone service, how to make more efficient
electronic brains, etc. It has a very legitimate service as a pure science.
But since a human being, to a Communist, is simply another machine; since
human nerve centers have exactly the same function as an electronic circuit; since
a human has not a soul—he is only a mechanical apparatus—the Communists have
decided that this particular science has a very useful application—not on machines
but on humans.
Now we’ve heard a great deal more recently about brain-washing. Back in 1940
that word wasn’t familiar to us, but what was going on inside these Young Communist
League cells was a technique of cybernetics, a technique of brain-washing, if you will;
the highly developed science of demolishing the minds and the spirits of men. [emphasis
in original] The Communists brag that theirs is a “technique of Soviet psychiatry.” Now
Soviet psychiatry is based on the same basic principles as that of our own doctors and
psychiatrists except that the Communists have a different purpose in their psychiatry.
Our doctors work with unhealthy minds and try to make them healthy and whole again.
The Communists have decided that cybernetics provides a very wonderful way to go to
work on healthy minds and to destroy them. And of course we are now getting a bit
of that picture from our own prisoners of war who were jailed and imprisoned by
the North Koreans and the Red Chinese. One of my good friends is Robert Vogeler.
We’ve learned a great deal from Bob Vogeler about the technique of brain-washing.
It’s a horrifying story.
I would suggest that you folks who are interested in this subject, perhaps some of
you students, could adopt for special study this field of cybernetics. It is brand new. I
don’t know of a single book on the subject in connection with what the Communists are
doing with it. As a matter of fact, my own knowledge is very limited because the only
facts I have are those few things which we have gathered from inside the Communist
Party which indicate that the Reds have been working around the clock in this study
of the scientific manipulation and control of information. It is based on the findings of
Pavlov which say that a man, like an animal, conditioned to respond to certain impulses,
can be conditioned to respond to words, phrases and symbols. Therefore you pour in
the words, phrases and symbols to which he will respond without thinking [emphasis in
original]. And then you withhold other certain words which will cause him to respond
in a way which you may not desire. It is the scientific control of human beings by
means of control [of] information.

* Surely it is no coincidence that the above-mentioned Michigan and U.S. Senate recommended
policies on population control were being discussed at the same time (1971) that the
United States was engaged in “Ping Pong” diplomacy with Communist China, the international
leader in mandatory population control. Some excerpts follow from “The Ping Heard Round
the World” which appeared in the April 26, 1971 issue of Time magazine:
Dressed in an austere gray tunic, Premier Chou En-Lai moved along a line of respectfully
silent visitors in Peking’s massive Great Hall of the People.... Finally he stopped to chat with
the 15-member U.S. team and three accompanying American reporters, the first group of U.S.
citizens and journalists to visit China in nearly a quarter of a century. “We have opened a
new page in the relations of the Chinese and American people,” he told the U.S. visitors.
...Yet in last week’s gestures to the United States table tennis team, the Chinese were
clearly indicating that a new era could begin. They carefully made their approaches through
private U.S. citizens, but they were responding to earlier signals that had been sent by the
Nixon Administration over the past two years.
...Probably never before in history has a sport been used so effectively as a tool of
international diplomacy.

[Ed. Note: Back to family planning, Michigan-style. Population and Family Planning in the
People’s Republic of China, 1971, a book published by the Victor-Bostrom Fund and the Population
Crisis Committee, has a table of contents that includes: “A Letter from Peking” by Edgar
Snow, author of Red Star Over China; “Family Planning in China” by Han Suyin, M.D.; and
“Why Not Adopt China’s Population Goals?” In other words, it looks like Ping Pong Diplomacy
may have been used to open up the dialogue between Communist China and “private” American
groups supporting population control. These would, in turn, lobby in Congress for more
liberal family planning policies and for the legalization of abortion as recommended in the
U.S. Senate Journal Resolution #214 and the Michigan paper. Here again, as was the case with
the 1985 Carnegie Corporation-Soviet Academy of Sciences education agreement, diplomacy
is being conducted by private parties: table tennis teams and groups such as the non-profit
Victor-Bostrom Fund and the Population Crisis Committee.]

* THE DAILY WORLD OF NOVEMBER 8, 1975 CARRIED A VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE ENTITLED “Planning
Is Socialism’s Trademark” by Morris Zeitlin. The Daily World (newspaper of the Communist
Party USA) was formerly known as The Daily Worker and was founded in 1924. The
importance of this article lies in its blatant admission that regionalism, which is gradually
becoming the accepted method of unelected governance in the United States (unelected councils
and task forces, participatory democracy, public-private partnerships, etc.) is the form of
government used in democratic socialist and communist countries.

* CHILDHOOD IN CHINA, A BOOK EDITED BY WILLIAM KESSEN (YALE UNIVERSITY PRESS: New Haven,
Connecticut, 1976), was reviewed by Kent Garland Burit of The Christian Science Monitor.
The following excerpts from Burit’s review provide insight into the similarities of education
in Communist China in 1973 and Skinnerian Effective School Research used in American
restructuring in the 1980s and 1990s:
They were well-behaved, non aggressive with peers....
The immediate yielding to a teacher’s request seemed remarkable to the Americans....
The strategies and communication style of the teachers is also described. They initiate,
supervise closely, and terminate all activities. They teach by repetition and by formula. Their
verbal and nonverbal indications of approval are in a high ratio to indications of disapproval.
They discipline through persuasion and moralistic reasoning rather than punishment. They
exude a confident expectation of their pupils’ compliance and cooperation....
The curriculum is saturated with ideological goals, the team reported. The child is
exposed to repeated exhortations to serve the society.

* THE LOS ANGELES TIMES OF MAY 21, 1976 (PART 1–B) CARRIED AN ARTICLE ENTITLED “Cuban
Children Combine Studies, Work” which clearly explained the communist work-study system
and the impact of community service, both of which are being implemented in the United
States in the 1990s. Important excerpts follow:
HAVANA (AP)—The door to the side room of an old cigar factory had been left ajar, and a
small knot of children could be seen preparing boxes of cigars for export. “It’s part of our
education system,” a Cuban tobacco official explained. “They are helping and learning.”
The children, elementary school pupils about 9 to 11 years old, were examples of the unique
Cuban educational system of combining studies with physical work. The system, started in
1967, applies to all schools, including the island’s four universities....

* DEVELOPMENT OF EDUCATIONAL TECHNOLOGY IN CENTRAL AND EASTERN EUROPE STUDIES: Division
of Structures, Content, Methods and Techniques of Education was published and distributed by
United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO: Paris: ED–77/WS/
133:English Edition) in November of 1977. The author is including excerpts from the “Section on
Methods, Materials and Techniques” so that the reader will see how America 2000/Goals 2000
restructuring is identical to education in the former Eastern European communist countries.
The reader must also remember that American education is under the direction of UNESCO
due to our membership in the United Nations.

* Ms. Berry is not talking about the future when she recommends radical proposals for
U.S. education. A meeting of the National Council for the Social Studies, held in Cincinnati
last November, featured several presentations on Communist Chinese education as a model
for U.S. education. In one such presentation, teachers learned how the Red Chinese educational
system “is related to achievement of national goals and citizenship preparation... how
cultural activities and recreational pastimes provide a vehicle for transmitting new social
values.” Does this help you understand why U.S. schools usually list “worthy use of leisure”
or “citizenship education” as a goal of education?

* Some years ago I read the following statement in a school publication:
One of America’s most tragic wastes of natural resources is the loss of potential for social
contribution which is inherent in economically deprived, gifted children.
Properly identified at a sufficiently early age, through culture-free, non-verbal testing,
the very young child can be provided with the environment, economic and motivational
support necessary for full development as a positive social contributor.
Without such early identification, the socio-economic pressure imposed upon the economically
deprived child who possesses superior cognitive ability is likely to result in either
a “dropping out” or only a desire to achieve improved personal life style. The chosen or
available means of obtaining a better life style may not be socially desirable. Therefore their
truly constructive potential, from the standpoint of society [the State], may be forever lost.
These thoughts seem to me to be applicable to all societies and especially to those less
fortunate than America’s. Specifically analyzed they are:
1) Identified early enough, poor but gifted children can be given medical, financial
and emotional support which probably will lead to the development of positive social attitudes.
2) Not identified and assisted the kids may either not achieve their potential or may
use their talents solely for the purpose of bettering their own lives regardless of the means
employed or the effects on others.
It is interesting to note the number of proudly proclaimed programs for gifted child
identification and development which many of the Socialist and Communist countries have
as a stated and de-facto matter of public policy. It is not strange that the capitalist countries,
so quick to make use of all other “natural” resources—including the labor of their own and
other countries—have been slower to recognize and secure the benefits accruing from the
development of their own gifted children.
Perhaps the wealthy nations have not yet sensed the compelling need for broad social
progress, based upon the future contribution of the gifted, as have some of the non-capitalist
countries.

* THE FACT FINDER OF PHOENIX, ARIZONA ON JANUARY 1, 1986 (VOL. 46, NO. 4) CARRIED an article
entitled “Shocking U.S. Agreements to Let Soviet and Red Chinese Educators Indoctrinate
America’s Children.” (See Appendix XXIII.) Excerpts follow:
We now have proof that agreements have been made with the Soviets for nearly 30 years
to have their educators work with ours in planning curricula for America’s school children.
This is a shocking addition to what we have already learned about the many ways that the
Soviets are carrying out their secret war for world domination.
Early in October, we learned that two Communist educators are already here in Phoenix,
teaching and conferring with educators at Central High School. Boris Bayev is a 41-year
old principal of a Soviet secondary school at Ulyanovsk, USSR. A teacher from Red China
is also at Central High.

* THE AUGUST 11, 1988 EDITION OF EDUCATION DAILY COVERED THE NATIONAL CITIZENS Alliance GROUP ASKS EDUCATION DEPARTMENT TO STOP FUNDING “MIND-CONTROL” CURRICULA, END SOVIET EXCHANGES
A citizens group headed by a former Education Department official asked ED to stop promoting
curriculum the group says controls students’ minds.
The National Citizens Alliance (NCA), a group of parents and teachers, alleged at a
Washington, D.C. news conference yesterday that ED is promoting “mind-control” curricula
that use hypnosis-like techniques to foster concentration.
NCA wants to “get the federal government to stop pouring millions of dollars” into the
“development of mind-control programs currently sweeping through American schools,” said
Charlotte Iserbyt, who served as senior policy advisor in ED’s Office of Educational Research
and Improvement from 1981 to 1982 and is NCA’s East Coast coordinator. Iserbyt called on
Education Secretary William Bennett and other federal officials to:
End federal funding and promotion of programs such as Tactics for Thinking, which is
used in Indiana schools.20 NCA says the curriculum “employs hypnotic-like processes and
altered states of consciousness techniques on children”;
Cancel the education portion of the 1985 exchange agreement between the United States
and the Soviet Union, which NCA says allows dissemination of “communist propaganda”
through global teaching methods and the joint development of textbooks and computer
software; and Force Pennsylvania to ask parental consent before using its Educational Quality Assessment test, which NCA says uses “psychological and psychiatric testing” in violation of
the federal Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment [Anita Hoge case against the Pennsylvania
Department of Education].
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have any problem in accepting the likelihood of truth in some of what is being written above, despite the elephantine exception of repeated McCarthyite allegations of a "communist front" behind, for example, the new maths etc, etc!

Again, you seem to be allowing your ideological prejudices to lead you down the garden path!

My sole objection is in regard to what I maintain are the totally unsubstantiated allegations that Brian Gerrish continues to make that CP is in some way in a conspiracy with the European Union.

What quite he means by 'European Union' is also difficult to ascertain. I assume he is referring to either the Parliament, the Commission or the Council of Ministers or all those & more!

The first two institutions are accountable & I have written both of them, so far having had a denial from the EP which I published above. I am waiting to hear from the Commission and meantime am writing to my MEPs.

As for the last, they are accountable to no one but their national governments so contacting them, I suspect, would be rather a waste of time.

I hope that makes my position very clear as to where I stand in all this.

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This is all paranoid, anti-Soviet BS. "Communist" conspiracies from a state-capitalist Soviet Union? Never mind the "Communist" conspiracies, what about the corporate capitalist (ie fascist) conspiracies to which we in the "free democracies" are daily subject to? What do you have to say about them, Caz?!

PS: One question that I keep forgetting to ask re. Brian Gerrish and Common Purpose is this: apart from the various allegations being made by Gerrish about Common Purpose what other material evidence exists that is accessible regarding the allegedly dubious activities of the Common Purpose Leadership organisation? I would be grateful for links in particular.

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I meant the general premise that governments may be using brain-washing techniques at some level. Ever since Edward Bernays* published his works I believe governments, including the British and their BBC, have sought to use brain-washing techniques on people.

In the old eastern Warsaw Pact countries there was a saying about state propaganda: believe the opposite of what you hear & you won't be far from the truth. That kind of state propaganda was fairly primitive compared to the subtler forms adopted by the BBC and British mainstream media (MSM).

The BBC or British method is roughly like this: first you make a statement, eg the Chinese government has been accused of the brutal repression of Tibetans. Then you qualify the initial statement by adding something such as, but 'reliable sources' (the sources may not be named) say that the repression was not as widespread as it was first made out to be.

That makes it sound like you are taking a fair and balanced view of events. But then you finish by employing suggestion or innuendo that, anyway there was some repression & therefore the Chinese government is guilty of treating Tibetans brutally. Thus the China-bashing thrust of your propaganda strikes its target.

At no point does your report complicate issues by reminding the audience that as long ago as 2007 the Tibetan Youth Movement had promised to use the 2008 Olympics as an opportunity to highlight the cause of Tibetan independence. Nor do we need to know the numbers of Tibetans compared to Chinese who were killed or wounded in the riots.

All along your concern is not that the nature of the present Chinese government is repressive. It is simply to attack the image of China held in peoples' minds and to reinforce the idea that China, a likely future enemy of the USUK, is a dictatorship that needs to be over-turned (even with the use of western nuclear weapons? is the afterthought left to linger in our minds)

Although the above is meant as an example it uses actual historic events to illustrate the point: The Tibetan Youth Movement which has operative links with the CIA did plan way ahead to disrupt the 2008 Olympics. Both the US and British governments would have colluded with the TYM through their secret services & the whole thing that was presented to the public was a carefully-constructed fabrication.

The rightful desire of people for independence was cynically manipulated by western governments whose purpose was to set China up as an enemy in the eyes of the West to be possibly attacked militarily. China is already surrounded by forward-based US military weapons, another thing we're not told.

For more detail of the US geostrategic ploy, see http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8673

(BTW, you suggest Global Research is "compromised". Compromised by whom exactly?)

Here I'm not changing the topic by mentioning the above about BBC methods but merely illustrating how western governments are forever planning & fabricating what they then present to us through their conduits as "news". Such examples, in my estimation, are far more relevant than the paranoia-sounding references you quote, blaming a Soviet government that no longer exists.

It is likely, however, that ex-Soviet agents who were well-versed in the use of brain-washing techniques are now in the employ of both the US and British governments. If this is the focus of your concern then that casts an entirely different light on things and you should say so.
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