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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Muad'Dib arrested in Ireland for distributing 7/7 DVDs Reply with quote

edit: I didn't start this thread, Gosling copied my post from here.

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Tuesday, 10 February 2009

A 60-year-old man wanted in the UK on a charge of perverting the course of justice during the trial of a number of men in connection with the London bomb attacks has appeared in the High Court this afternoon.

Anthony John Hill, orginially from Sheffield, was arrested on Carrig Street in Kells this morning on foot of a warrant issued by the authorities in Britain.

It is alleged he sent DVDs entitled "7/7 Ripple Effect" to the jury, the judge and members of the victims' families.

The DVDs claimed the attack was an inside job and that the accused men were innocent.

The men in question are accused of conspiring with the bombers and of helping them to kill over 50 people on July 7th, 2005.

The High Court heard that, when arrested this morning, Hill said: "I sent them, I believe those men to be innocent."

He has been remanded in custody until February 18th.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:47 pm    Post subject: Man arrested in Ireland for distributing 7/7 DVDs Reply with quote

thanks Prole.
Shocking, unbelievable.
http://z13.invisionfree.com/julyseventh/index.php?showtopic=2374&view= findpost&p=14946613
Does anyone know anyone who might know this chap?


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Man in court on foot of UK extradition warrantTuesday, 10 February 2009 - Belfast Telegraph
A 60-year-old man wanted in the UK on a charge of perverting the course of justice during the trial of a number of men in connection with the London bomb attacks has appeared in the High Court this afternoon.
Anthony John Hill, orginially from Sheffield, was arrested on Carrig Street in Kells this morning on foot of a warrant issued by the authorities in Britain.
It is alleged he sent DVDs entitled "7/7 Ripple Effect" to the jury, the judge and members of the victims' families.
The DVDs claimed the attack was an inside job and that the accused men were innocent.
The men in question are accused of conspiring with the bombers and of helping them to kill over 50 people on July 7th, 2005.
The High Court heard that, when arrested this morning, Hill said: "I sent them, I believe those men to be innocent."
He has been remanded in custody until February 18th......
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/breaking-news/ireland/man-in-court-o n-foot-of-uk-extradition-warrant-14181812.html

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, is this chap Muad Dib ?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, is this chap Muad Dib ?

Yes

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Prole.

Got a link for Muad Dib being Anthony John Hill and Anthony John Hill's / Muad Dib's contempt of court thang too ?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muad'Dib ??

Anthony John Hill ???

I'm missing something here....

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Muad'Dib ??

Anthony John Hill ???

I'm missing something here....

Maud'Dib IS Anthony John Hill. You don't think Muad is his real name surely.

Let's hope Muad's stupidity and the backing he received from some here doesn't have a negative effect on the men who are having to stand retrial at Kingston.

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Prole has met him, or at least interviewed him for the J7 site I believe.

What a brave guy to risk so much for the cause. His film brings out all sorts of info not seen elasewhere and, whatever you think about it overall, it's for that it will be remembered.

I am continually amazed, that ordinary people turned filmmakers can do, reasonably well, what the mainstream doesn't have the guts to do.

Isn't it about time we had an independent enquiry and inquests rather than endless 'related' trials and legal threats?
Here is the film this chap 'allegedly' made in 2007 called '7/7 The Ripple Effect' - only available on the internet.
Raises some very serious questions about the official 7/7 government narrative.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8756795263359807776
http://jforjustice.co.uk/77

and this my personal favourite Cool Cool Cool

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BBC 7/7 Documentary delayed 'until mid 2009'
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/08/407828.html?c=on

BBC shelve investigation into the crime of the century
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Prole has met him, or at least interviewed him for the J7 site I believe.

Well as usual Gosling you believe wrong, misinformation is your norm. We at J7 have never met Muad'Dib nor did we interview him.

On the contrary, we posted this on our review of 7/7 Ripple Effect:

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As an addendum to the rebuttal and rejection of 7/7 Ripple Effect, J7 received email notification from Muad'Dib requesting cash donations and assistance in contacting the bereaved families and survivors in order to send them unsolicited copies of this film.

J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign immediately responded with a refusal to support or condone the film and J7 researchers universally condemned the intentions of Muad'Dib in the unsolicited sending of the film to bereaved families or survivors, re-iterating the point that J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign have never endeavoured to contact bereaved families or survivors. J7 are not in any way party to the making of the 7/7 Ripple Effect. We do not support the film, its producers, its unsubstantiated conjecture, or the sending of the film to relatives of victims or survivors, nor has J7 provided any assistance with locating relatives of the deceased.

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If you re-read what I said you'll see I wrote "I believe" because I wasn't sure. Thanks for clearing that up once and for all Ms Prole.

As for Muad asking for your help....

It's what any amateur filmmaker who truly believed there was a 7/7 cover up would reasonably do. Irksome to you maybe, but that well may stand him in good stead in court.

Prole wrote:
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Prole has met him, or at least interviewed him for the J7 site I believe.

Well as usual Gosling you believe wrong, misinformation is your norm. We at J7 have never met Muad'Dib nor did we interview him.

On the contrary, we posted this on our review of 7/7 Ripple Effect:

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As an addendum to the rebuttal and rejection of 7/7 Ripple Effect, J7 received email notification from Muad'Dib requesting cash donations and assistance in contacting the bereaved families and survivors in order to send them unsolicited copies of this film.

J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign immediately responded with a refusal to support or condone the film and J7 researchers universally condemned the intentions of Muad'Dib in the unsolicited sending of the film to bereaved families or survivors, re-iterating the point that J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign have never endeavoured to contact bereaved families or survivors. J7 are not in any way party to the making of the 7/7 Ripple Effect. We do not support the film, its producers, its unsubstantiated conjecture, or the sending of the film to relatives of victims or survivors, nor has J7 provided any assistance with locating relatives of the deceased.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's hope it doesn't have a negative effect on all of us
Rather than cast him as stupid, let's rather have a look at what this is all about.
He's being held in custody for exercising a theory?
That's a complete outrage
Get to grips with this. It's a very severe attack on people who harbour thoughtcrimes
Don't attack the messenger however misguided you believe him to be
It targets all of us
Free Muad 'Dib right now
This is a disgrace

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never mind whether julyseventh ever interviewed him or agreed with his policies
Don't try to distance yourselves now
He only put in certain proposals on DVD, correct or not
This isn't and can never be a crime
Support him right now and demand his right to be freed, now, not on Feb 18th, but right now

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To Prole:

Though you might think Mr Hill has 'overstepped the mark' by including a certain amount of 'conjecture' in his film, surely you must applaud his work in exposing numerous anomalies, contradictions and downright lies relating to the government's 'official narrative' of 7/7?

As the keeper and collecter of data relating to 7/7 you are in a position to offer him some degree of effective support. Should not everyone involved in the trials of 7/7 'terrorists' have been made aware of important information that was being deliberately kept out of the public domain.

I hope you will support him exercising, at serious personal risk (as his current incarceration demonstrates), what he saw as a moral duty.


To everyone else:

Any suggestions as to what we might do to support this man in his hour of need?

Personally I find Mr Hill's (Muad Dib's) conjecture far more persuasive than the Government line on 7/7.
Below is another bunch of 'conjecture' by a Mr Casbolt, who might or might not be reliable. It is much the same as Muad Dib's narrative but quite likely an accurate description of just another 'false flag' terrorist event.

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By James Casbolt, former MI6 agent – February 18, 2007



The British and US government are stirring an atmosphere of animosity and hatred between white and Asian people in the UK, US and around the world. Whites verses Asians invents the excuse for the invasion of the Middle East. They are also looking for a minority to blame for the terrorism in the UK and US that the governments themselves are responsible for.

This is known as ‘false flag’ terrorism. 'Al Qaeda' is an MI- 6, CIA organisation utilising Middle Eastern assets. These are big claims but this is backed up with evidence from my MI 6 contacts. My friend below was briefed in detail regarding what really happened on 7/7 and how the British Government were responsible.

James Casbolt- “ So you are saying the bombs were planted into the bus several days before the 7/7 London bombings”

X10- “ Yes, the British government switched the safety checking team. When they went into the bus depot a few days before hand a trade union spokesman who was asked about this said he couldn’t understand who the security was. He didn’t recognise anybody. These were people who come into check the buses. They normally check the buses for things like suspension, braking systems and the security cameras. Instead of staying what is usually an hour or so these people were there for the entire day. When workers approached them and started making small talk they wrere basically ignored . So they had the feeling that these people were not regular security.

James Casbolt- “So they were probably MI 5?”

X10- “They were MI 5. They were there primarily to make sure the video camera went off at a certain time. Which is of course what happened. Isn’t it is amazing that on that day, this was similar to what happened with the cameras prior to the death of Princess Diana. All the security cameras that counted on 7/7, not the ones that didn’t count, the ones that really counted weren't working. The security camera on that bus wasn't working on that particular day.

James Casbolt- “So where did they plant the bombs on the bus?”

X10- “Inside the seats and under the floor. I know that the eye witness accounts of what happened were all at variance with one another. The BBC relied exclusively on a testimony given by a Scottish guy. The Scottish guy contradicted himself so many times and yet no one in the media asked him about these contradictory statements. He said in one report that he got off the front of the bus and in another report he said he left through the rear door. One report said he was the first out and another report he said was the last off the bus. So there appears to be a lot of confusion in terms of the report”

James Casbolt- “So the four Asian lads were they MI 5 assets?”

X10- “They were stooges”

James Casbolt- “Do you think they consciously knew they were working for MI5?”

X10- “No they weren’t working consciously for MI 5. They would just be a shadow team lured into London to be part of a covert programme of simulated attacks. They were paid to be in a certain place at a certain time to take part in a simulated attack. A company was running a simulated terror attack at the time. Those boys were part of that. They were told “Your backpacks represent explosive devices but of course they aren't explosives”

James Casbolt- “So they were told ‘this is just a dummy run”

X10- “It was a dummy run. They were part of the dummy run. They stopped their car just outside of Luton and they were briefed by somebody. When they left Luton of course, they didn’t leave Luton at the time described because there was a c*** up with train times. So whether they managed to get to London or not is an unknown because the video camera evidence has been shown to be faulty. There is a problem with the timing on some of the video footage.

James Casbolt- “So they bought return tickets?”

X10 - “Yea, they bought return tickets. Of course you wouldn't but return tickets if you knew you were on a one way journey to hell. Some of the other reports that were briefly mentioned in the quality, alternative media and not the tabloid media. Then they were completely ignored by the controlled tabloid media, was one eye witness who was talking about the fact that as she was coming off the train were the bomb exploded. The police officer said “Mind the hole!” and he pointed to a huge blast which showed the metal structure of the under carriage facing upwards as if the bomb had blown upwards. This was the security services taking the extra insurance that in case any of the bombs that their agents had left on the train and those were ex MI 5, ex SAS people, that they would have had a back up, a contingency to make sure those explosions did take place. A number of reports reported more bombs than there were alleged terrorists.

James Casbolt- “Why is it ex MI 5 doing it? Why is it not active MI5 agents?

X10- “In a way there is no such thing as ex MI 5. Once your MI 5 you’re always MI 5 (I would have to disagree with that statement as I managed to get away from my involvement with MI 6- James Casbolt). A lot of MI 5 people get jobs with other organisation that are similar in structure when they leave the security services. These organisations are usually part of the private sector. There have been a number of these organisations over the years. A very, very famous intelligence unit that used to work under Peter Mandelson involved in the oil business, and they announced a disclosure about three years ago. Norton Taylor who works for the intelligence part of the Guardian. He pointed out then that such organisations often announce their demise and its nothing of the sort. Its just disinformation or they just change into another company with exactly the same brief. There a lot of these little private organisations that soak up people who have left these intelligence services and they have them working on a private basis but more often than not they are contracted and they get work contracted out to them from the government”

James Casbolt- “So the four Asian lads, they were probably having their strings pulled by MI 5 officers”

X10- Oh yea, absolutely without a doubt. They were runners, a dummy team. I’ve spoken to a few people about the way in which dummy teams are run. They interest lads like that, what MI5 do is they say something like “We want you to be part of a film, part of a dummy run working with the government and also working with BBC producers on developing scenarios in which terrorist attacks in the UK could take place. You get to London and then you do this, meet us at a certain place and we give you a thousand quid”. That’s easy money and its easy money for what? Travelling to London, sitting on a train with a backpack for about half an hour or so and you collect your loot”

James Casbolt- “Do you think Mohammad Sidique Khan would have been a conscious MI 5 agent?”

X10- “He may have been paid by MI 5 to go through that on the TV. The same way as, there is another guy who is a known MI 5 agent. He used to be the sidekick of Abdul H the Muslim preacher. He was no 2. He was a ‘Mr fixer’ and had links to all sorts of exotic quasi terrorist organisations, which are of course almost all run by British intelligence. I wish I could remember his name”

James Casbolt- “You said one of the ex SAS men who was responsible for the bombings was called Mcgreagor and he was disguised as a homeless person.”

X10- “That's what they do to blend in, well not blend in but to make them look conspicuous. If you’ve got a homeless person clutching an old Tesco’s bag or something you don’t tend to look at him and say the guy looks like security threat”

James casbolt- “Can you explain what he did”

X10- “He was on the train and left a package with explosives in. The man who told me this, I developed a close relationship in the past and trusted him”

James Casbolt- “And this man was an MI 6 officer?”

X10- “Ex MI 6. He longer worked for them. Even in the days when I knew him he had already left the service. As far as the bus operations were concerned that was not his main topic. He was talking mostly about the people in the tube bombings. When all of the eye witness statements came up later on talking about the possibility that the bombs may have been placed under the buses, what the government did was put in a fail safe to make sure that even if some thing went wrong on the day with those people who were involved in the bombings themselves, they would at least have a secondary system to ensure the bombs exploded at exactly the time they wanted”

James Casbolt- “So would they have been set on timers?”

X10- “They were set on timers”

James Casbolt- “So they wouldn’t have needed to remotely detonated?”

X10- “No. This whole remote system is quite strange because on the day itself Ian Blair took down all of the mobile phone communications. Everything was switched off. You couldn’t make a mobile phone call. He knew in any event that there were no remote detonators and he was just covering his arse in case any curious journalists asked him a pertinent question later on. There were no remote detonations on the day at all. They were all personally delivered to the destinations”

James Casbolt- “What happened on the tube then?”

X10- “The agents were there at the exactly the right time they were supposed to be. If it was the actual case that those guys actually did get the train from Luton. I don’t believe they got the train from Luton because apparently that train never turned up. But if they had got to London before hand which s probably the case, they would have had plenty of time to receive the briefing in London. They would have got on train. They would have then been followed by these ex MI 5, SAS officers so that they were actually in the same cart as the so-called juvenile bombers. It would have taken place as scheduled”

James Casbolt- “So the guys on the train who were ex MI 5, ex SAS, they left the explosives on the train and then got off. What were their names again?”

X10- “The ex MI 5 man was codenamed ’J-boy’ and Mcgreagor was the ex SAS guy”

James Casbolt- “And then you say they escaped in a Vauxhall cabriolet?”

X10- “Yes and they were driven away from the scene”

James Casbolt- “So your MI 6 contact confirmed it was a Vauxhall cabriolet?”

X10- “Yes”

James Casbolt- “So J-boy and Mcreagor left explosives in bags under the seats but there were secondary explosives under the train carriage (See photos. Ed.) in case they didn’t go off”

X10- “Yes”

James Casbolt- “Do you know were the safe house was were Mcgreagor and J-boy went afterwards”

X10- “The safe house was in South London. This is a very unfortunate event that is going to be churning around in people’s minds for a long time to come. We need a proper public enquiry”

To the government factions who were involved in this act of mass killing I say this. How dare you blow up and murder my British people! All those who are accountable will be held fully accountable when the time comes! That time is coming soon. In my vision I see Asian and white brothers and sisters coming together in love and harmony in this country. We will confront the government peacefully for their terrorist crimes.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no reason to distance J7 from Muad'Dib as we have never supported him or his film.

You also miss the point of what he has been arrested for, and that is sending copies of his film, unsolicited, to the judge, the foreman of the jury (!!!) and families of the bereaved, something we never supported as previous discussion here and the statement we placed on our website shows.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul wright wrote:
Let's hope it doesn't have a negative effect on all of us
Rather than cast him as stupid, let's rather have a look at what this is all about.
He's being held in custody for exercising a theory?
That's a complete outrage
Get to grips with this. It's a very severe attack on people who harbour thoughtcrimes
Don't attack the messenger however misguided you believe him to be
It targets all of us
Free Muad 'Dib right now
This is a disgrace

Paul are you being disingenuous? He is being kept in custody for sending copies of his DVD to the judge and members of the jury, as well as families of the bereaved. The warrant is for 'attempting to pervert the course of justice'.

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It is alleged that, in May and June 2008, Mr Hill sent several copies of a DVD entitled 7/7 Ripple Effect to the judge and the foreman of a jury at the trial at Kingston Crown Court of people allegedly involved in assisting the 2005 bombings.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prole, sorry to be a pain, but I guess I'm out of the loop on who is who here.

I know you have asserted that this Anthony John Hill is Muad Dib, it is clear that you are sure that they are one and the same person.

I however, would just like to know, how you know ?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prole wrote:

He is being kept in custody for sending copies of his DVD to the judge and members of the jury, as well as families of the bereaved. The warrant is for 'attempting to pervert the course of justice'.


Why should any information threaten justice. Lies can be disproved.

The information in this film should be seen by everyone, particularly people making judgements about 7/7. Speculation can be disregarded if necessary.

In my opinion, this noble individual has been trying to wake the people at large up about the reality that is False-Flag state terrorism. He deserves the support of ALL right thinking people. Juries and courts should get ALL relevant information.....not have to suffer the satanic lies and spin of the criminals who were actually responsible for this crime.


By the way, this is a new improved version of "7/7 The Ripple Effect". Even if you've already seen it this is worth watching again.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Prole, sorry to be a pain, but I guess I'm out of the loop on who is who here.

I know you have asserted that this Anthony John Hill is Muad Dib, it is clear that you are sure that they are one and the same person.

I however, would just like to know, how you know ?

Mark, we do our research thoroughly.

I've posted the links here. Just follow them for yourself and you'll find that JAH is Muad'Dib is John Hill.

Just read through this thread and you'll find all the information you need. How about this post for example.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mark, we do our research thoroughly.


Is that it ?

Be careful, you'll be accused of obscene stuff like numerology . . .

Nothing you have posted convinces anyone that these two, three names are the same person Prole.

It was only an academic question for me, given that you should have said, more accurately, that you believe them to one.

Not that they ARE one . .

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he is a good guy.

Muad Dib / Anthony John Hill

Prole ...do you.?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mark

Just try to imagine the kind of deep deep doodoo J7 would be in now if we had endorsed the Yorkshire Ripple. The spooks would shell out squillions to get the result that Muad'Dib apparently achieves off his own bat. There will be a trial and oodles of publicity. Well done, Mr Messiah.

I am looking forward to his appearance on The Conspiracy Files. Know your enemy.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think he is a good guy.

Muad Dib / Anthony John Hill

Prole ...do you.?


Errr, maybe he is, maybe he isn't. What has that to do with anything?

He may not be bad, he may not be mad but he sure as hell is dangerous to know.

Are you looking forward to the publicity around his trial? I just can't wait to see him on The Conspiracy Files?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Numeral, I don't support M'D's particular actions which form the basis of the charge
However I do support his right to put an alternative scenario into the public domain
Obviously this guy has the authorities rattled - why?
Well for one, the case in point didn't actually succeed in its objectives
Further, I think the nature of the charge is entirely spurious
Any case against M'D ought really to fall at the first hurdle, though given the nonsense of certain recent cases, this can't be guaranteed
Surely the notion of "attempting to pervert the course of justice" involves some element of threat, pressure or inducement
The sending of an alternative narrative to anyone who's free to watch it or not can hardly be said to be any of these
This case is not set to nail this particular individual for his work or thinking, but to send out a warning to all those who question, that they will be hassled, arrested, imprisoned if only for a limited period, if they persist. It is the slow unfolding of how things will be
On this basis alone, this bloke ought to be supported

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello numeral

" Know your enemy."

I do.!

And also it's apologists and whores.!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Prole,

Can I ask why you are posting legally privileged alleged private emails from an arrested 7/7 Truth campaigner on a public forum? I'm removing them and other posts containing them as quotes now (GCHQ, MI5, Special Branch and the NSA will have them of course anyway) and suspending you if you do so again.

Interesting messages nevertheless which may help him eventually since he is being accused of sending the DVDs to jurors which he makes no mention of.

Arguably he presents new evidence in his DVD which may be of material use to the defence in the present Kingston trial. Many of the victims' friends & families and 7/7 survivors, as well as families and friends of those now on trial may well support Dib's actions and his calls for a proper and full independent enquiry.

Has he been formally charged yet?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

numeral wrote:


Errr, maybe he is, maybe he isn't. What has that to do with anything?




Dear Numeral,

"Good" * guys shouldn't be arrested for doing the right thing whilst the evil guys; who make up these fraudulent "laws" enabling them to steal from we the people and silence the truth; remain free and are for all intents and purposes cheered on by people like Prole. So I think it has a lot to do with everything.

* Muad'Dib would be the first to say there is no-one truly good here on earth.

Of course, since you are so concerned with protecting the image of "J7" in the eyes of these evil guys, I can understand your statement "what has that to do with anything".

Very sad.



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He may not be bad, he may not be mad but he sure as hell is dangerous to know.


Because he is brave and does the right thing, whereas you do not want to get into any trouble with your masters? The ones you are trying to impress?

I think any "campaigners" for truth and justice who utter the words you have uttered, are not good friends to have when the chips are down.

This is all very enlightening.



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I just can't wait to see him on The Conspiracy Files?


What makes you think that Muad'Dib would have agreed to speak on The Conspiracy Files?

If you really believe that sending a DVD containing information which the people who should most have access to, have not; due to the cover-up perpetrated by the State; is WRONG... then, are you sure you are on the right side in the first place?

In another thread you mentioned the deep doo doo "J7" would be in if it had supported Ripple Effect (or unkinder words to that effect). I should inform you then, that it is your alliance with unjust "laws" and their enforcers that will get you into more trouble than you could ever dream of. If you keep it up.

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Muad'Dib's purpose in sending the video was to STRAIGHTEN the course of justice. Those who ordered his arrest are PERVERTING the course of justice. People tend to accuse others of what they are guilty of themselves.

All this shows is that He is getting somewhere and it is becoming a little too hot for some who presently hold the reigns of power.

He sincerely believes in what He is doing. He knows how to fight them.

Without a genuine opportunity to inform of the weighty argument that the four alleged "bombers" may not have been bombers at all, the trial taking place is ALREADY a sham and a perversion of justice. Why do you think they are so afraid of Muad'Dib and His film, which shows exactly that?

LLTF, LLTK,

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was some conjecture in that film but it was pretty groundbreaking and I found it to ask a lot of hard questions - the kind we would expect from the independent enquiry we all have wanted to see.

This is outrageous what has happened, but the charge of perverting the course of justice would be hard to deny if he's attempted to sway a judge. If sending it was pre meditated, as it surely was, he could be found guilty for sure. I'm not saying I'm not with him, as I wholeheartedly am, but this could prove to be quite costly for him since he's definitely no longer anonymous and he could face serious consequences.

But I hope this can get the controversy and lies of the official account back into the limelight. It will be interesting to see how many mainline UK papers pick this one up and follow it. I urge everyone to get in touch with local Yorkshire news outlets and get them to cover it.

Any extra exposure would only do us good, I think, since we have the truth on our side. We must urge others to at least question 7/7 and see how malinformed they are when it comes to what really happened.

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Arguably he presents evidence in his DVD which may be of material use to the defence in the present Kingston trial. Many of the victims' friends & families and 7/7 survivors, as well as families and friends of those now on trial may well support Dib's actions and his calls for a proper and full independent enquiry.


Arguably the prosecution case against the 3 accused is so weak that their defence lawyers would not require Muad's entirely speculative material.

As for Muad 'calling for a proper and full independent enquiry', where precisely does he say this? Or is this just something that you 'believe'?

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Evidence or no evidence, as I recall they only just escaped 'going down' in the previous trial.

Prole wrote:

Arguably the prosecution case against the 3 accused is so weak that their defence lawyers would not require Muad's entirely speculative material.


I also notice there has been not a single mainstream UK news article about this extradition warrant and subsequent arrest. We should be informing London, Sheffield and Kent local media as well as the Home Affairs editors of all the national papers and broadcasters.

Unlikely but if they know about it but can't publish it may be d-noticed. Who is his lawyer?

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Unlikely but if they know about it but can't publish it may be d-noticed. Who is his lawyer?



The d-notice is a possibility at this stage. As far as I know, no English newspaper has touched anything to do with Muad'Dib for twenty years (13th June 1988 to be precise), ever since He served a High Court Writ upon the British Parliament (including all the lords, dukes, counts etc... hundreds of them) demanding He be acknowledged as the Rightful monarch, and for reparations to be made to the British people for their losses resulting from the massive theft perpetrated on them by those He served the writ on and the House of Windsor/Mountbatten.

There have only been a few newspaper articles to do with Him, some Irish and Northern Irish I recall. About The Ark of The Covenant.

As for who is His lawyer, it is doubtful He will have one. I've known Him to represent Himself.

If any of you can attend any future trial, you won't regret going. Unless you have a problem with unadulterated truth and an incorruptible sense of justice.
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