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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man pulls out 13 of his own teeth with pliers 'because he couldn't find an NHS dentist'
A former soldier pulled his own teeth out with a pair of pliers because he could not find a dentist to take on NHS patients.
Iraq War veteran Ian Boynton could not afford to go private for treatment so instead took the drastic action to remove 13 of his teeth that were giving him severe pain.
The 42-year-old, from Beverley, East Yorkshire, had not had his teeth looked at since seeing the army dentist in 2003. He had not been registered with a dentist of his own since 2001..........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1135582/Man-pulls-13-teeth-pli ers-NHS-dentist.html

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch that hurts.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try not to use tap water anymore. There is no need for sodium fluoride to be in there and there is probably little to no benefit to teeth from drinking fluoridated water. It could well just be a money scam whereby people are getting well paid for their waste.
I'll tell you this though. Your teeth will suffer when you change to toothpaste without fluoride, from personal experience.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only drink bottled water.
I only use NON FLUORIDE TOOTHPASTE as well. This I buy from EBAY in quantities of 6 tubes at a time.
You can also buy non fluoride toothpaste in Boots. It is called SMILE TOOTHPASTE.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Optima-AloeDent-Sensitive-Aloe-Vera-Toothpaste-1 00ml_W0QQitemZ180301144058QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_HealthBeauty_DentalCar e_RL?hash=item180301144058&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683|66 %3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I try not to use tap water anymore. There is no need for sodium fluoride to be in there and there is probably little to no benefit to teeth from drinking fluoridated water.


Indeed.

Think about it.

The whole point of adding fluoride to toothpaste is that it is claimed to have benefits for teeth when applied topically, that is, directly to the teeth.

So, what is the point of adding fluoride to water as an alleged benefit to dental health ?

You wouldn't be persuaded to swallow toothpaste for it's fluoride to have an effect on your teeth would you ?

So why be persuaded to swallow water with added fluoride then ?

PS: Euthymol toothpaste is fluoride free and it's also an antiseptic.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been bottled water for me since I learned some horrible facts about fluoride and watched The Fluoride Deception. I used Euthymol for a time but it tastes horrible! I'm going to go into Boots for tooth paste from now on, thanks for that tip.

But watch out on bottled water as some brands actually still contain fluoride. I think this might be ultra low levels and from the source itself, though, rather than being chemically added. However, that said, I've read that once it's in your water it might as well have come from the fertiliser industry's own toxic waste as it's ionically identical to the natural stuff that starts off as calcium fluoride.

And while we're here, let's not forget all the lovely precription drugs, bacteria and chlorine that's in our tap water.

Does anyone know where I can get a good shower filter? I'm thinking it's gotta be just as dangerous absorbing all these things through the skin as it is drinking them!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm thinking it's gotta be just as dangerous absorbing all these things through the skin as it is drinking them!

Even worse than drinking it apparently!!


http://www.kernowrat.co.uk/page43.html

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This filter requires at least 1.5” clearance from the wall, we can supply an 8” flexible Extension adapter for applications where this clearance is not available. KDFSF £24.93 Post - £7.30
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PS: Euthymol toothpaste is fluoride free and it's also an antiseptic.


I didn't realize that stuff was fluoride free. My mates dad used to use that and he only went to the dentist every two years and never had to have anything done.
It is a bit harsh from what I remember but I'll be getting it next time.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: Mercury In Fillings Reply with quote

caught the end of programme about the dangers of mercury gas released from the amalgam used in most fillings. A very sheepish looking head of the British Dental Association acting rather bizarrely.

Any one else catch it.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. What was the programme called?
Anyone got a link?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No. What was the programme called?
Anyone got a link?


Found this

http://forums.itv.com/thread/805066.aspx

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Was the programme you watched called mercury madness? The link from that itv forum isn't workin.
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Serious question no stupid answers please Razz
Just had a conversation with my Mum about memory and problems to do with such. Anyone else experiencing this? All my friends seem to be dire at remembering things, my Mum just said its not just her but her friends. Plus I can add I'm starting to forget what I'm doing etc. Shocked Mad
Could it be the effects already of flouridation?
P.S. My Mum keeps getting palmed off by ts your age at the Docs

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a gob full of mercury fillings and my memory's pretty poor. If I don't write things down there's every chance it's gone forever.

Here's a film called "Mercury, Autism and the Global Vaccine Agenda"

It is chilling stuff.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6890106663412840646&ei=DWqxS fCxGpKwqwKuhtS3Bg&q=mercury+autism
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I'll watch that when I've time. I get the feeling I wont like as I've got a gob full too.
As a matter of interest, my mate was crippled by vaccines during gulf war 1. He got better but is suffering again now and the doctors have said its M.E?
Any info on what was wrong with the vaccines? Just accidentally contaminated?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Returning to the alternative toothpaste options I think these products could be of benefit.

http://www.gcamerica.com/ click the Hygiene/preventative tab and then the MI PASTE link (sorry cant get a direct link from the site)

Its not toothpaste as such but is manufactured by a dental materials company and is designed to be applied to teeth after normal brushing / scale and polish etc and left in situ.

Where upon it helps the teeth topically to repair against decays deminerilisation process, using calcium and phosphorus ions instead of Fluoride. So its natural building blocks and nothing potentially harmful. They do a Fluoride version aswell, called MI paste plus, which warns against kids useage incase of swallowing. Which is honest of them.

I found this company offering it to the UK public, rather than dental practices.
http://www.breezecare.co.uk/ukcard/recmousse.html

Its also in chewing gum form http://www.breezecare.co.uk/ukcard/recgum.html

& in the Trident range of chewing gum you can buy anywhere but they all contain Aspartame, except I believe the latest Yellow packets in the range. I forget the flavour and its not shown here. http://www.tridentgum.co.uk/en/Trident2008/products/soft.htm

Couple this smeared on teeth at night after brushing with Tom Maines, The Boots Smile brand or Euthymol and you are in business for strong fluoride free teeth and a decent gum to boot (often literally Laughing)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks. I'll watch that when I've time. I get the feeling I wont like as I've got a gob full too.
As a matter of interest, my mate was crippled by vaccines during gulf war 1. He got better but is suffering again now and the doctors have said its M.E?
Any info on what was wrong with the vaccines? Just accidentally contaminated?


Off the subject a bit, but what does your mate reckon on 9/11?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brasscheck clip on mercury in vaccines and autism in children:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/644.html

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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nrmis wrote:
Thanks. I'll watch that when I've time. I get the feeling I wont like as I've got a gob full too.
As a matter of interest, my mate was crippled by vaccines during gulf war 1. He got better but is suffering again now and the doctors have said its M.E?
Any info on what was wrong with the vaccines? Just accidentally contaminated?


Off the subject a bit, but what does your mate reckon on 9/11?


Thats a bit of a strange one that has evolved over time.
It highlights how peoples best instincts can be squashed, be that because they will accept most things that seem to have 'official wording' or they just want to be where they are told most people already are, 'normal' if you will.

My sister flew back home to the US on september 10th 2001, with a change over in Boston.
I was almost certain that she was fine as there would have had to be monumental delays for her to be caught up in what happened.
That didn't help much as me and my mate watched the horror unfold.
I should point out my mate was a former army corporal, 11 years service, a couple of years of that in demolition.
He was sat right up close to the tv as one of the towers came down and shot round to look at me before putting his hand on his chin and looking round again and asking quite calmy 'Do you believe this?'
'Of course I believe it, it's happening isn't it?' was my outraged frightened reply.
'Ok ok allright' he said calmingly.
He knew instinctively and immediately that something was up but I was far too worried to want to hear any of it.
We just spent the next few days lapping up the media reports and even seriously discussed volunteering for the clean up, thank god we never did it.

Months and years later him and his missus had watched a 'conspiracy programme' featuring the pentagon (I had got them to watch loose change at least by then) and I just remember them telling me that the tapes of the plane could not be released because of national security. I asked them what difference seeing the strike would make to national security after seeing the strikes at the wtc and they just kept repeating 'national security'. I worded it differently and tried to get them to explain what they meant and I promise you my mate and his missus (who I love dearly) just kept repeating 'national security' like they had had their minds removed. I still take the p1ss out of them now for it.
But I'm probably only able to do that because they saw another programme after that which revealed a lot more.

Its pretty much the facts vs the tv isn't it?
Anyway, he just got a copy of National Security Alert off me yesterday.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for reply, nrmis.

Could I suggest a series of videos, for their enlightenment?

'911: Press For Truth', (Jersey Girls) followed by their follow-up,
'In Their Own Words', then

'911 Mysteries', then (killer, this one):

'Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime'

They are all available to view online.

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Fears over fluoride plans
by JAMES CHAPMAN, Daily Mail
Ministers have triggered a major health row by unveiling plans to allow fluoride to be added to all drinking water in England and Wales.
Water companies will be forced to add fluoride if local health authorities order it, despite controversy over the long-term effects on health, the Government confirmed.
The authorities will have to demonstrate that the local population broadly supports such a move, which is designed to reduce dental decay.
But campaigners said they feared fluoridation would be given the green light in many parts of the country after minimal public consultation.
The policy will infuriate environmentalists and consumer groups.
Some believe fluoridation has links to cancer, Down's syndrome, infant mortality and bone damage.
Up to half of those drinking fluoridated water also suffer 'dental fluorosis' - a mottling of the teeth thought to be caused by its effects.
However, studies have shown conclusively that fluoride - similar to an ingredient in many toothpastes - cuts the amount of tooth decay in children by strengthening the enamel in growing teeth.
About one in ten people in Britain drink fluoridated water, with some water companies adding it and others refusing to.
Amendments to the Water Bill will shift responsibility for deciding to treat water away from the companies to regional strategic health authorities.
Campaigners said they would be much more likely to agree to add fluoride.
Public health minister Melanie Johnson told MPs that schemes would go ahead only after wide-ranging consultations 'and the majority of the population have indicated that they are in favour'.
She said large chunks of the country - 'roughly from Hartlepool down to Essex' - had naturally-occurring fluoride in the water.
Another five million people in areas such as Birmingham had fluoridated supplies.
The NHS Centre for Reviews and Dissemination found no evidence of a negative effect on health with fluoridation.
But Jane Jones, campaign director of the National Pure Water Association, said: ' Fluoridation is indiscriminate mass medication.
' People have an absolute right to determine for themselves what they will and will not put into their bodies. This right is denied when medicine is added to the public drinking water supply.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-187013/Fears-fluoride-plans. html

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short 'Brasscheck' video which should help 'on the fencers' about dangers of Flouride:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/health-and-medical-1/epa-tacitly-ad mits-fluoride-is-iq-reducing-contaminant.html

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