Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 6913 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:28 am Post subject:
Could this be how they operate? Certainly an interesting and plausible theory. This seems to be the MO, drown the cabinet's will to fight back with fear of debt and press exposure.
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It is interesting that a significant amount of bribe money is paid in the form of election expenses (a method used by Lyndon Johnson). It all started with the £7 million raised by Lord Levy for Blair's election as leader in 1994. This year Gordon Brown received a large sum of money for his non election campaign. The deputy leader campaign is an interesting one. David Abrahams gave £5,000 to Hilary Benn. He was beaten by Harriet Harman to the post. Harman was elected on 24th June. On 5th July she received 5,000 from Abrahams via Janet Kidd to help with her election expenses. People like Abrahams give money to those in power. In this case he originally backed someone who failed to win so he then gives money to the woman who did win. This seems like a bribe to me. What is more, Harman is married to Jack Dromey, the Labour Party Treasurer. The man who claims he did not know Abrahams or anything about the loans to the Labour Party that were given for honours.
I believe Harriet Harman was turned along with Patricia Hewitt by MI5 when they both worked for the NCCL (see the Cathy Massiter case in in 1984). Harman's rash behaviour made her an easy person to turn. For example, she persuaded her sister Sarah, a lawyer and part-time judge, to pass her confidential papers when she was Solicitor General. Harriet Harman got away with it but her sister was found guilty of contempt of court and "conduct unbefitting a solicitor" and was ordered to pay £25,000 costs.
I believe it is possible that Harriet Harman is being blackmailed. Despite their very high joint-incomes the Harman's are heavily in debt and took out a £40,000 loan that was not declared at the time she was involved in the deputy leader election.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject: No Fear
This is the thing, it relies on an individual's fear of it exposing something shameful, thereby causing their supposed value to go down. However, I have found that if one is not afraid then one cannot be blackmailed. In the end, money isn't everything. You can be a drone and go along with whatever it wants but you'll be worse off than if you stood up for yourself at the beginning. My family are nobles and of an ancient family of a country in Europe. Over the last hundred years we've lost almost all our material wealth. I should be a very wealthy person right now, but I'm not because of land seizures and outright theft by my family's country which took place just after the turn of the century and throughout the 20th century. When I see paintings and photos of my family before all this happened, I feel rather sad. But I have my own family now. My children are forthright and honourable and are certainly not weasels like some of our counterparts. I've brought them up to not be afraid of anyone, but also not to inflict hurt on others. This is a good thing, and something that is very powerful.
Thanks. Listening now.
Its a bit hit and miss on quality and I just googled this guy across site and the version there may be slightly better quality....
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 6913 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject:
Illuminati News Story Today?
Ken Clarke - MAJOR Bilderberger - the number 1 Bilderberger in Britain - ticking boxes 3 and 5 on the list this week!
He has atacked other Tories who are calling for an end to inheritance tax on estates under £1m. A few days ago he was in trouble again for calling tax breaks for married couples 'social engineering'. Well, he should know all about social engineering eh!?
1. Abolition of Monarchy and all ordered Government.
2. Abolition of private property.
3. Abolition of inheritance.
4. Abolition of patriotism.
5. Abolition of the family (i.e., of marriage and all morality, and the institution of the communal education of children).
6. Abolition of all religion.
When we left off, we were exploring the proposition that the New World Order is the British Empire repackaged, and this empire was literally a marriage of effete British aristocracy and virile (or virulent) Jewish finance.
Webster Tarpley is a gifted historian who generally eschews mention of Jewish bankers in favor of euphemisms like "Venetians." Therefore it is unusual for him to state bluntly that King Edward VII was in the pay of the Rothschilds and was responsible for World War One.
Edward VII didn't become king until 1901 when he was 60 years old. As Prince of Wales, he was estranged from his mother, kept on an allowance and deeply in debt. He allowed a "series of Jewish bankers to manage his personal finances." These included Baron von Hirsch and Sir Ernest Cassell. "Edward also cultivated the Rothschild and Sassoon families. In short, Edward's personal household finance agency was identical with the leading lights of turn-of-the-century Zionism."
(King Edward VII: Evil Demiurge of the Triple Entente & WW1.)
Tarpley is equally forthright in stating that "Edward VII, far more than any other single human being, was the author of the First World War...the most destructive single event in the history of Western civilization" which opened the door to Communism, Fascism, the Great Depression and World War Two. Tarpley falls into the trap of establishment historians by attributing great events to single personalities. These personalities are invariably puppets of the people who pay their bills.
Tarpley goes into some detail about how King Edward and his Foreign Secretary Sir Edward Grey, the son of Edward's horse master, engineered World War One. Essentially, they deceived Germany into believing that England would remain neutral. To prevent the war, all they had to do was clarify this point. Germany would have backed down and reined in Austria.
In August 1914, Kaiser Wilhelm realized he had been fooled: "England, Russia and France have agreed among themselves ... to take the Austro-Serbian conflict as an excuse for waging a war of extermination against us...That is the real naked situation slowly & cleverly set going by Edward VII...The net has been suddenly thrown over our heads, and England sneeringly reaps the most brilliant success of her persistently prosecuted anti-German world policy against which we have proved ourselves helpless, while she twists the noose of our political and economic destruction out of our fidelity to Austria, as we squirm isolated in the net."
BACKGROUND
"England's" animosity against Germany was part of an agenda to use a catastrophic war to undermine Western civilization, and advance the Judeo-Masonic New World Order. Three empires disappeared in that inferno while Communism and Zionism rose like the phoenix.
The decadent British aristocracy is totally complicit in the cabalistic bankers' plan to degrade and enslave mankind. Who are these "aristocrats?" In an essay, "Breeding Concubines," Greg Hallett makes some astonishing, some might say ridiculous, claims. I present them here without judgment, to be proven or discredited as evidence emerges.
Edward VII was the mentally deficient product of the marriage between Queen Victoria and her first cousin Albert. He was the oldest male of her nine children. He married in 1863 and had five legitimate children between 1864 and 1869. His eldest son, Clarence, was mentally deranged and the prime suspect in the Jack the Ripper murders.
Edward VII routinely and openly cheated on his wife. He had dozens of mistresses, some as young as age 14. One of these was the Jewish-born Lady Randolph Jennie Jerome Churchill. Hallett believes Edward VII was Winston Churchill's real father.
Hallett claims that Queen Victoria had children with Lionel de Rothschild and that two of Edward's sisters, Helena and Beatrice, were Rothschilds. He claims the British Royal family is "a biological, financial and moral subset of the Rothschild international bankers."
"Interbreeding amongst the British royal family over generations has created concubines, illegitimate children and agents of war. The British Royal family are then shamed by these events and then manipulated into any activity their owners require...This gave [the Rothschilds] consummate power over the British Royal family, and any others they interbred with, which was all the royal families of Europe..." ("Breeding Concubines" in "Stalin's British Training," 2007, pp. 1-38.)
CONCLUSION
These claims seem far fetched yet it is plain to see that something is wrong with the Royals. It is widely acknowledged that Edward VII was dissolute. If Hallet's claim that "the British Royal family are a subset of the Rothschild family and are utilized as part of the Rothschild business as a money-making venture to create war," it would explain King Edward VII's role in starting World War One.
The reports of homosexuality, drugs, pederasty, promiscuity, occultism in the history of the British aristocracy are consistent with what we know about the Illuminati. They are depraved yet somehow able to subvert mankind without serious resistance.
What a tawdry tale is modern history! Instead of grasping greatness within reach, the human race is paralyzed by the morbid spell of a Satanic cult, the Cabalist (Illuminati) bankers.
Joined: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Buckinghamshire
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject:
item 7 submitted the above without comment. Lest visitors to this site take such submissions as general acceptance by contributors...
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King Edward and his Foreign Secretary Sir Edward Grey, the son of Edward's horse master, engineered World War One. Essentially, they deceived Germany into believing that England would remain neutral. To prevent the war, all they had to do was clarify this point. Germany would have backed down and reined in Austria.
This assertion is made without supportive documentary evidence, and while some logic can be found to support the theory that Britain could have prevented WWI,...
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British Dithering
It is also suggested that Germany would have backed away from war had Britain declared her intentions sooner. Believing that Britain would stay out of the coming conflict, and would limit herself to diplomatic protests - after all, Britain was under no strict military obligation to France - Germany, and Austria-Hungary, proceeded under the belief that war would be fought solely with France and Russia.
The British Government, and its Foreign Minister, Sir Edward Grey, attempted to mediate throughout July, reserving at all times its right to remain aloof from the dispute. It was only as the war began that the British position solidified into support for, ostensibly, Belgium.
Hence the oft-levelled criticism that had Britain come out clearly on the side of Belgium and France earlier in July, war would have been avoided: Germany would have effectively instructed Austria-Hungary to settle with Serbia, especially given the latter's willingness to co-operate with Austria-Hungary.
Whether this would have transpired given the German war machine's determination for war is of course unknown.
**Recommended viewing for those wishing to have a broader understanding of the causes of WWI**
http://www.firstworldwar.com/origins/causes.htm
... going from this theory to that of, Britain "engineered World War One" doesn't bear close scrutiny. My opinion, for what it's worth, is that Britain was merely playing its options until conflict commenced (If France & Russia alone could defeat Germany, why become embroiled in the conflict). However should the possibility of Germany, with it's challenge to Britain's naval supremacy, be able to annex Belgium, Holland and subjugate France, this would be seen as intolerable. Another point to consider is that from Britain's perspective at the time (which proved far from the truth), once Britain had joined the conflict, it was only to be a matter of months to bring Germany to it's knees.
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The reports of homosexuality, drugs, pederasty, promiscuity, occultism in the history of the British aristocracy are consistent with what we know about the Illuminati.
Do we? Those frailties (should they all be perceived so) are not the exclusive domain British aristocracy. Such traits are not consistent with what "I" know about the Illuminati. Without clarification, those without particular insight must regard such statements as the author's pre-conception.
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Instead of grasping greatness within reach, the human race is paralyzed by the morbid spell of a Satanic cult, the Cabalist (Illuminati) bankers.
Er, what planet is this guy from, it may be comforting for some to use prescribed spectres of good and evil, for the rest of us, human morality is a responsibility of our own conscience.
I have no doubt that the financial elite have always striven to manipulate events with self-interest taking precedence over morality. We do need to recognise the insidious nature of such influences and the injustices that are done in this regard. This has nothing to do with homosexuality, drugs or Satanism, what it has to do with is power and greed in both personal and corporate guises.
The reports of homosexuality, drugs, pederasty, promiscuity, occultism in the history of the British aristocracy are consistent with what we know about the Illuminati. They are depraved yet somehow able to subvert mankind without serious resistance.
What a tawdry tale is modern history! Instead of grasping greatness within reach, the human race is paralyzed by the morbid spell of a Satanic cult, the Cabalist (Illuminati) bankers.
Au contraire mon ami
The banking system can be shown to be a control mechanism for removing wealth and power and in many cases life from the people and delivering to a tiny power group.
'The Money Masters' video and many fine works such as The Secrets of the Federal Reserve and The Creature from Jekyll Island prove this beyond any doubt, as does the observable reality of how the world is evolving. Apparent trickle-down benefits to mankind in general (material goods, longer life-spans, so called 'freedoms') mask an undertow of demoralisation.
As for connections with the occult and WW1
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Crowley was a lifelong agent for British Intelligence. .... As an agent provocateur he played some role in provoking the sinking of the RMS Lusitania, thereby bringing the United States closer to active involvement in the war alongside the Allies.[31]
If France & Russia alone could defeat Germany, why become embroiled in the conflict
So the USA could not defeat mighty Iraq alone? The banksters, who own western governments, constantly engineer wars then fund all sides making vast profits. They farm humanity and slaughter is part of the process. As Dennis Kucinich asks - "Who are these people?" _________________ Tooth Fairy denier
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Joined: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Buckinghamshire
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject:
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So the USA could not defeat mighty Iraq alone?
Item7's response to my opinion on WWI, if there is a correlation here, I fail to see it. Arguments presented are freely open to challenge, however in the interests of debate perhaps Item7 can present a coherent counter argument pertinent to the topic in question.
On your statement, where the interests of corporate America can best be served by actions other than direct intervention it strives to do so covertly. The Cambodia's holocaust, Pinochet's suppression of human rights and death camps being two of many examples.
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The banksters, who own western governments, constantly engineer wars then fund all sides making vast profits. They farm humanity and slaughter is part of the process. As Dennis Kucinich asks - "Who are these people?"
Whatever, simplistic generalisations add nothing to the understanding of events, Dennis Kucinich comments are well taken in regard to the current situation but unconnected to the topic under discussion.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 6913 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:19 am Post subject:
Avatar the film is a conspiracy?
Barmy Aristos?
All religion is the same thing?
We must have balance between good and evil?
Jesus was a high priest of Osiris!
Disaster in December 2012
World Peace by 2019
1 million angelic & demonic UFOs surrounding this planet
There is a Commander approaching
False Flag Alien Invasion
Quite captivating video Thermate
He's well shifty thought
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