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Was “Harley Man” expert at ground zero a paid actor?
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put up a number of Riggle's TV episodes, enough for a competent sleuth to check the voiceprint. I don't have expertise, or time to aquire it.
But it's not rocket science; the voice-print programs can be downloaded from the net by techno-minded, time-rich investigators.

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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might also want to take a look at this thread over at the loose change forum...
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1664533/1/#new

There seems to be another name in the hat.

(And if anyone does have the long version of that video... well, ya know.)
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nrmis wrote:
You might also want to take a look at this thread over at the loose change forum...
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1664533/1/#new

There seems to be another name in the hat.


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The Rob Riggle stuff is pure muddying of the water. There is absolutely NO similarity.


That's quite an alarmingly absolute statement, coming from a site admin person!

No doubt more names will be added to the hat as and when further distraction is needed.

@outsider: snag is finding someone techienerdy enough who considers this sufficiently high priority to pursue. Sure, it set the stage as THE Weapon of Mass Delusion but those who actually dunnit could equally have employed Mickey or Moshe Mouse...

Even if it can be conclusively proven who the actor was, do you think he would confess? Or make it to the light of day with a mea culpa?

But, just for entertainment value, has anyone checked Humphrey's & Riggle's ages on 9/11 against that visual of Harley we love so much? ;-)

Hint, Humphrey was 41

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I just say I have heard that some people have been making threats at this guy and it's probably time to drop this, unless you can prove it.

It may be fun armchair researching, but this is a real person.

Do you realise you are essentially making a named accusation that someone was complicit in the murder of nearly 3000 civilians?

Are you that sure that you would do that? You'd have to be 100% sure because otherwise there is a chance you are you are not only massively defaming, but also possibly inciting violence towards an innocent man.

If people want to carry on this research then do it in private and don't bring it up again until you can prove it.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:11 pm    Post subject: Harley Guy Reply with quote

According to a number of US 9/11 web sites the conveniently on the spot "expert" has been identified using a variety of techniques including voice matching as being B grade Canadian actor Mark Adrian Humphrey. I cannot verify the veracity of this claim, but it is perhaps of interest that Mr Humphrey has declined to come forward and deny that he is "Harley Guy".
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its Riggle he's got a mole? above his left eyebrow
http://video.aol.ca/video-detail/daily-show-riggle-cupcakes/3083416480  /?icid=VIDURVCOM04

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stefan wrote:
Can I just say I have heard that some people have been making threats at this guy and it's probably time to drop this, unless you can prove it.

It may be fun armchair researching, but this is a real person.

Do you realise you are essentially making a named accusation that someone was complicit in the murder of nearly 3000 civilians?

Are you that sure that you would do that? You'd have to be 100% sure because otherwise there is a chance you are you are not only massively defaming, but also possibly inciting violence towards an innocent man.

If people want to carry on this research then do it in private and don't bring it up again until you can prove it.


Does this edict of yours cover all the other suspects, too? Are we to keep mum about Perle, Addington, Feith, Ledeen, Hauer, O'Reilly, Shorn O'Sannity, Yoo let alone the really big bad names?

None of them are 100% criminal certainties, yet their names have countless web pages and books devoted to them. By their actions shall ye know them and despite 8 years of waffle, not one suspect can be considered anything but that - a suspect.

IMO, you are in breach of the 1st Ammendment and the HRA.

A more positive approach would be to invite these recently uncovered suspects to polygraph tests, surely? That's 'law enforcement' 101. This way they could clear their names in a trice. Shovelling it all back into the depths and darkness does nothing to resolve the crime, does it?

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stefan wrote:
Can I just say I have heard that some people have been making threats at this guy and it's probably time to drop this, unless you can prove it.

It may be fun armchair researching, but this is a real person.

Do you realise you are essentially making a named accusation that someone was complicit in the murder of nearly 3000 civilians?

Are you that sure that you would do that? You'd have to be 100% sure because otherwise there is a chance you are you are not only massively defaming, but also possibly inciting violence towards an innocent man.

If people want to carry on this research then do it in private and don't bring it up again until you can prove it.


Does this edict of yours cover all the other suspects, too? Are we to keep mum about Perle, Addington, Feith, Ledeen, Hauer, O'Reilly, Shorn O'Sannity, Yoo let alone the really big bad names?

None of them are 100% criminal certainties, yet their names have countless web pages and books devoted to them. By their actions shall ye know them and despite 8 years of waffle, not one suspect can be considered anything but that - a suspect.

IMO, you are in breach of the 1st Ammendment and the HRA.

A more positive approach would be to invite these recently uncovered suspects to polygraph tests, surely? That's 'law enforcement' 101. This way they could clear their names in a trice. Shovelling it all back into the depths and darkness does nothing to resolve the crime, does it?


There is nothing to be gained by putting this out there. And there is quite a big difference between people who were involved with or had influence in or were part of the government that presided 9/11 and a random civilian actor.

The only people I would be comfortable with personally naming as have being involved are people who are known to have played a role - Minetta's testimony directly implicates Cheney, and the planes not being shot down relied on Rumsfeld disappearing when he was needed to authorise it. I would also happily refer to PNAC and rebuilding Americas defences, and note how many co-signatories and members were in the Bush Admin.

Beyond that I would use more general terminology, such as "criminal elements within the US Government", "government agencies with no democratic oversight" or "elites" and so on. because the truth is we don't know so it doesn't do us any favours speculating in any detail.

It is quite a different thing to pick an actor who looks a bit like the Harley Man and announce your guess work to the world via the internet.

Just imagine for a second it's not him. Imagine it's you who some one somewhere is saying you were complicit in 9/11 and you start hearing of threats of death and violence are being made towards you, just because you looked a little bit like someone there is grainy youtube footage of somewhere. How would you feel?

So unless you are 100% that someone is genuinely deserving of that accusation, then this is exactly what you are doing, or taking a percentage chance you are doing. And for what gain?

I'm not against any routes of research being done, what I am saying is that if people want to make accusations against real people they had better be 100% certain before they go public with them. And far from that I see no evidence whatsoever that these two people are the same man.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We don't say they are the suspect, just that they look like them. If these people were worried, they would come out and deny it, or even sue anyone who claimed that they were.
Clearly all the people supected, or perhaps put in the frame by 'disinfo' merchants, cannot all be the culprit. They could conceivably all be innocent.
What I believe we would all agree on, I believe, is that whoever it was, was put up to it by the perpetrators.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He does look quite a lot like him and an absolutely kosher line of enquiry so long as attempts have been made to get a response from him.

Stefan wrote:
There is nothing to be gained by putting this out there.....

.....It is quite a different thing to pick an actor who looks a bit like the Harley Man

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:36 pm    Post subject: 'Harley guy' is Mark Walsh.. fox news freelancer Reply with quote

really important this i think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07hJhmiWZSY

only just seen this. and until now people have been going about how he's some actor (which he isn't)

he is a freelancer for fox news.

has anyone been able to track him down? hunting for his facebook and stuff like that

the quicker we can find him and ask him why he said 'mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense' the better
we might get something interesting
It appears to me this full video revealing his name has only just appeared.
please can people start searching quick before agents see this post and set to work at vanishing him

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What codswallop.
Absolutely the sort of speculative research this site is so good at.
Stefan wrote:
There is nothing to be gained by putting this out there. And there is quite a big difference between people who were involved with or had influence in or were part of the government that presided 9/11 and a random civilian actor.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

personally i think there should be a sticky of this with my original title
so people passing through understand quickly that he is Mark Walsh and not anyone else

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