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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting film about factory farming of pigs on More 4 Tuesday 30th June

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Are you making a pig of yourself?

The Marchioness of Worcester explores the true costs of factory farming of pigs

Pig Business - a shocking new documentary on More 4
June 30th 2009
http://www.smallholder.co.uk/news/smallholdernews/4455008.Are_you_maki ng_a_pig_of_yourself_/

A new feature-length authored documentary, to be aired by More4 on June 30th, takes a close look at factory farming methods in the pig industry, many of which originated in the US but are now being employed in Europe.

Pig Business is the result of more than four years of fearless and intense research across the US, Poland and the UK by passionate environmental activist Tracy Worcester. The Marchioness has dedicated her life to fighting what she sees as the harmful, exploitative corporate practices that now dominate the world’s food production.

Tracy Worcester argues that the factory farming methods which are being introduced mean the end to natural, humane and healthy traditional farming methods and increase the health risk to pigs, people and planet.

Exposing the farming methods that “bring home the bacon”, the film reveals:

• The enormity of the super-farms and the disposal methods used to deal with the tons of pig waste generated.

• How giant lagoons are filled with pig waste that have polluted waterways and poisoned fish.

• How safer alternatives to most of these practices have been ignored because of economics

• How factory farms can out-compete small independent farmers in the market place, it’s argued, by externalising costs on the broader community.

• How the lives of residents of neighbourhoods close to these super-farms are often blighted by the stench.

• How pig waste is used to spray fields in these neighbourhoods further adding to the suffering of the residents.

• A scientist identifies studies which show that a significant percentage of workers in these super farms can develop chronic respiratory illness.

• Pigs existing in crowded, darkened pens can suffer from infection and injury – experts believe the anti-biotics given routinely to intensively farmed pigs are creating resistant strains of bacteria.

• Because of the EU’s agriculture policy, thousands of Polish farmers who have helped to keep their landscape an “unspoilt jewel of Central Europe”, are being driven out of business and into unemployment and migration

• The advance of factory farms in Poland has been helped by huge multi-million dollar loans from the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development - a bank guaranteed and subsidised by the tax-payer.

• Supermarkets choose to bulk buy from the super-farms and inadequate labelling often makes it unclear where and how the pork has been produced

• UK independent pig farmers claim they are being ruined because they cannot compete with the cheap cost of imported pork produced to lower standards in Europe.

• The solutions described are to buy British to ensure the sows are not kept in crates their entire pregnancy and to buy from farmers markets and high street butchers to support independent farmers

Commenting on her film, Pig Business, Tracy Worcester said:

“Whether in Britain or abroad, I’ve seen small family farms going bankrupt because of the arrival of giant factory farms.”

“This film is the story of my four-year exploration into the pig business – where pork is produced, how it is produced and who wins and who loses.”

“The images of human cruelty inflicted on pigs shown in my film are horrendous but, actually, the impact of this industrial farming on our health, the quality of our food, the livelihoods and health of rural people and the environment is equally shocking.”

The film draws heavily on the experience of activists and experts including Robert Kennedy Jr., nephew of the late US President John F. Kennedy, an environmental lawyer who has led successful legal actions against factory farms.

Robert Kennedy says:

“These facilities sicken the people who live down wind. Neighbours complain that they can no longer hang their laundry or sit on their porch during the summertime or plough their fields without becoming sick”.

”We had an American revolution in this country to create democracy, we need a new American revolution in this country now to fight against the corporate feudalism that we are now dealing with, that is embodied so much by this industry, that is eroding everything and subverting everything that we care about in our democracy”

For more information see www.PigBusiness.co.uk

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor poor pigs! Whatever did they do to deserve mankind?

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What really amazes me is that small farmers have never caught on to the fact that their destruction was deliberately planned by Old Nazis teaching young Nazis their tricks for global food production domination.

Look into Cargyll, Monsanto, ADM & Zeneca - if you read their websites, they don't hide their aims of using food for purposes of blackmail and far worse.

Listen to Vandana Shiva - she saw this way back but who was listening?

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Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder

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Thursday, June 25, 2009 by: Barbara Minton, Natural Health Editor
(NaturalNews) As the anticipated July release date for Baxter's A/H1N1 flu pandemic vaccine approaches, an Austrian investigative journalist is warning the world that the greatest crime in the history of humanity is underway. Jane Burgermeister has recently filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN), and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials concerning bioterrorism and attempts to commit mass murder. She has also prepared an injunction against forced vaccination which is being filed in America. These actions follow her charges filed in April against Baxter AG and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology of Austria for producing contaminated bird flu vaccine, alleging this was a deliberate act to cause and profit from a pandemic.

Summary of claims and allegations filed with FBI in Austria on June 10, 2009

In her charges, Burgermeister presents evidence of acts of bioterrorism that is in violation of U.S. law by a group operating within the U.S. under the direction of international bankers who control the Federal Reserve, as well as WHO, UN and NATO. This bioterrorism is for the purpose of carrying out a mass genocide against the U.S. population by use of a genetically engineered flu pandemic virus with the intent of causing death. This group has annexed high government offices in the U.S.

Specifically, evidence is presented that the defendants, Barack Obama, President of the U.S, David Nabarro, UN System Coordinator for Influenza, Margaret Chan, Director-General of WHO, Kathleen Sibelius, Secretary of Department of Health and Human Services, Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, David de Rothschild, banker, David Rockefeller, banker, George Soros, banker, Werner Faymann, Chancellor of Austria, and Alois Stoger, Austrian Health Minister, among others, are part of this international corporate criminal syndicate which has developed, produced, stockpiled and employed biological weapons to eliminate the population of the U.S. and other countries for financial and political gain. ... ... ...


much more at:-
http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pandemic_swine_flu_bioterrorism.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Useful background material here:-

http://www.drcarley.com/Horrors_of_Vaccination_Exposed.pdf

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INOCULATIONS: THE TRUE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION

CAUSING VIDS (VACCINE INDUCED DISEASES)

(AN EPIDEMIC OF GENOCIDE)

by Rebecca Carley, M.D.

Court Qualified Expert in VIDS and Legal Abuse Syndrome


"One basic truth can be used as a foundation for a mountain of lies, and if we dig down deep enough in the mountain of lies, and bring out that truth, to set it on top of the mountain of lies; the entire mountain of lies will crumble under the weight of that one truth. And there is nothing more devastating to a structure of lies than the revelation of the truth upon which the structure of lies was built, because the shock waves of the revelation of the truth reverberate, and continue to reverberate throughout the Earth for generations to follow, awakening even those people who had no desire to be awakened to the truth." (by Delamar Duvaris as written in the preface of Behold the Pale Horse by William Cooper).

The basic truth that served as the foundation for the mountain of lies known as vaccinations was the observation that mammals which recover from infection with microorganisms acquire natural immunity from further infections.

Whenever cytotoxic T cells (the little Pac man cells which devour and neutralize viruses, bacteria, and cancer cells, thus conferring cellular immunity and are also responsible for allograft rejection) and B cells (antibody producing cells which confer humoral immunity by circulating in the body's fluids or "humors", primarily serum or lymph) are activated by various substances foreign to the body called antigens, some of the T and B cells become memory cells. Thus, the next time the individual meets up with that same antigen, the immune system can be quickly triggered to demolish it. This is the process known as natural immunity. ... ... ...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very good 60 minutes of a 90 minute video, 'Vaccination: The Hidden Truth':

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4032071156806560888&hl=en

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest from Doctor Davros at WHO

WHO warns swine flu 'unstoppable'
The UN's top health official has opened a forum in Mexico on combating swine flu by saying that the spread of the virus worldwide is now unstoppable.
World Health Organization head Margaret Chan added that the holding of the meeting in Cancun showed confidence in Mexico, which has been hard hit.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8130196.stm

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The WHO may have 'confidence' in Mexico, but how much confidence should we have in the WTO? As much, I believe, as we should have in the World Bank or the IMF:

Short 8-minute clip on compulsory vaccination:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/658.html

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Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen claims swine flu is man made...


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aussie take on B(u)rgermeister's attempted indictment of Rothschild & WHO:-
http://www.cleanairandwater.net/burgermeister-document.html#

Gives her documentation in full - please leave a copy in every doctor's & MPs surgery you can reach.

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BIOTERRORISM EVIDENCE
Evidence that an international corporate criminal syndicate, which has annexed high government office inside the United States, is intent on carrying out a mass genocide against the people of the United States by using an artificial (genetic) flu pandemic virus and a forced vaccination program to cause mass death and injury and depopulate America in order to transfer control of the United States to WHO, the UN and affiliated security forces (UN troops from countries such as China, Canada, the UK and Mexico etc).

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: WHO Discredits Theory That Swine Flu Was Man-Made Reply with quote

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In an attempt to discredit rumors started by an Australian virologist that the swine flu was the failed product of a laboratory experiment, officials from the World Health Organization made an announcement on Thursday directly addressing the issue.


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The theory that the virus might have been man-made was started by Dr
. Adrian J. Gibbs, a retired plant virologist at the Australian National University. Gibbs had previously made a name for himself in the science community when he published a paper postulating that the infamous 1918 pandemic began as a bird flu strain – a notion that is now widely accepted by most flu experts.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: And right on queue... Reply with quote

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/jul/10/pharmaceutical-companies -nhs-nice-ols
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Scheme to let new drugs bypass NHS value watchdog

• Drayson plans fast track for 'innovative' medicines
• Treasury fund would pay for high-cost treatments

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guardian.co.uk, Friday 10 July 2009 23.41 BST

Drug companies with "innovative" medicines would be able to bypass current safeguards and sell to the NHS at a high price under a fast-track procedure to be proposed next week by the Office for Life Sciences (OLS), run by science minister Lord Drayson.

The proposal, in a blueprint being prepared behind closed doors with input from the pharmaceutical industry, will effectively undermine the present system of approving medicines for the NHS. It will allow companies with medicines they claim are valuable and original to bypass the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice), which currently must assess every new drug to ensure it offers value for money before it can be used in the health service.

The pharmaceutical industry has been fiercely critical of Nice since its inception in 1999 because it blocks sales of expensive drugs to the NHS that are of only limited benefit. Its protests have been backed by an outcry from patient groups, often partly funded by the pharmaceutical industry, which want new drugs to treat their particular condition. ... ... ...


How deeply, evilly ironic that N.I.C.E. should resurface in this form - so revoltingly close to the original C.S.Lewis construct 'National Institute for Coordinated Experiment' !

http://www.crossroad.to/Excerpts/books/lewis/hideous-strength.htm

'Withers' is certainly with us. Where's Merlin?

No doubt we'll soon be informed that the RSPCC is being run by a born-again paedophile! For those unaware of Drayson's background, he's-not-always-wrong-Monbiot posted an article, here:-
http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2009/05/12/captive-knowledge/ - 8th paragraph onwards.

See also http://www.rcpe.ac.uk/policy/2007/inquiry-nice.php

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Times Online: Mass vaccination on the way:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6690010.ece?Sub mitted=true

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http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=621045

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This is part 3 of Bioweapons, Dangerous Vaccines and Threats of a Global Pandemic

by Stephen Lendman

Part 1 dealt with alarming news about Baxter International, and Part 2 dealt with the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) as an Industry Front Group. See below this article for related link to the previous article.

WHO, CDC, and Canada's Public Health Agency (PHAC) Fearmongering Misinformation

Besides declaring its highest Level 6 influenza pandemic alert on June 11, the BBC reported on July 3 that WHO's Director-General, Dr. Margaret Chan, warned that the spread of swine flu is "unstoppable" while admitting that most cases are mild and many people recover unaided. ... ... ...


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Canada's Public Health Agency (PHAC) "is working on a priority list," effective for all provinces and territories. Gymnasiums will be used for mass vaccinations of school children, but no final decisions have been made.

In a June 26 news release, PHAC reported that "The Government of Canada today launched a three-year public education campaign to encourage parents to have their children immunized against certain diseases before the age of two. The Honorable Leona Aglukkaq, Minister of Health, made the announcement at the annual meeting of the Canadian Paediatric Society" saying that "Immunization is one of the best tools we have to protect the health of our children."

In fact, all vaccines are dangerous and should be avoided. They contain squalene-based adjuvants that cause a menu of autoimmune diseases in test subjects. In humans they include chronic fatigue, various type rashes, chronic headaches, anemia, aphthous ulcers, seizures, weakness, neuropsychiatric problems, ALS, Raynaud's phenomenon, and multiple sclerosis, among other illnesses and diseases, some causing death.

It's why Dr. Laibow says "No insurance company in the world will insure against" their risks. In America, a special fund "has paid out over 2 billion dollars to parents of children killed or maimed by vaccinations." However, the vast majority of those harmed are never compensated, and US law 'immunizes' drug companies from lawsuits. ... ... ...


and he doesn't even get started on Thiomersal/Thimerosal !
http://www.naturalnews.com/011764.html
http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/QuestionsaboutVacci nes/ucm070430.htm

see also: 'Swine Flu Smoking Gun' :-
http://www.naturalnews.com/026159.html

Would you let your children anywhere near these Mengelian Monsters? If not, mandatory vaccination could be a 'problem'...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please from an orderly queue.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090712/tuk-all-brits-to-be-vaccinated-for -swine-45dbed5.html
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Please from an orderly queue.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090712/tuk-all-brits-to-be-vaccinated-for -swine-45dbed5.html



Watch what happened to Americans when they were vaccinated last time round

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9mh9f_swine-flu-1976-propaganda_webc am
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http://www.naturalnews.com/026613_swine_flu_vaccines_pandemic.html
Mandatory vaccination for the whole world!

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Meanwhile, the World Health Organization -- always a trusty friend of Big Pharma -- has announced that swine flu is "unstoppable" and is now directing all the nations of the world to vaccinate their citizens against the H1N1 influenza strain. This is essentially an order for global mandatory vaccinations.

And yet, at the same time the WHO is recommending mass global vaccinations against the swine flu, it also states on its own website that such vaccines have never been proven safe. In its own words (http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swin...):

Emphasis added] "Since new technologies are involved in the production of some pandemic vaccines, which have not yet been extensively evaluated for their safety in certain population groups, it is very important to implement post-marketing surveillance of the highest possible quality. In addition, rapid sharing of the results of immunogenicity and post-marketing safety and effectiveness studies among the international community will be essential for allowing countries to make necessary adjustments to their vaccination policies."

In other words: Use the people as guinea pigs and see who dies first!

It's not difficult to decode the WHO's language in this case. The vaccines aren't safe, so they're recommending that people given the vaccines be watched closely to see what happens (who dies).

And just to make sure more people die, the WHO is also recommending such vaccines use "live attenuated influenza."

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Please from an orderly queue.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090712/tuk-all-brits-to-be-vaccinated-for -swine-45dbed5.html


Wonder if its optional in the Forehead or in the hand

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http://www.recombinomics.com/News/07130901/H1N1_2009_1918.html

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The new Nature report also assessed the immune response of different groups to the new virus. The most intriguing finding, according to Kawaoka, is that those people exposed to the 1918 virus, all of whom are now in advanced old age, have antibodies that neutralize the H1N1 virus. "The people who have high antibody titers are the people born before 1918," he notes.

The above comments are in association with an upcoming publication in Nature demonstrating that patients born prior to 1918 still have antibodies that not only neutralize the 1918 pandemic virus, but also cross react with the 2009 pandemic swine H1N1. Similarly, the 2009 pandemic strain replicates more efficiently in the lungs of experiment mice and ferrets, which may explain the frequent deaths of previously healthy young adults. The targeting of this age group also parallels data from 1918. ... ... ...


Another nail in the coffin?

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Wonder if its optional in the Forehead or in the hand


Anyone who chooses to have the vaccine, should just bend over and take Big Pharma up the ***

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I don't often repost stuff from Prison Planet on the assumption that most readers here go there at least once a day [:>

This one could be acted on in the UK, however:-
"London Times Censors Mass Opposition to Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccine" - (Some of these headlines! Phew! :-/ )
http://www.prisonplanet.com/london-times-censors-mass-opposition-to-ma ndatory-swine-flu-vaccine.html

The link to the Times in the article no longer works - page wiped; letters to the editor, anyone?

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The London Times newspaper has apparently censored scores of comments on its own website that expressed vehement opposition to plans by the UK government to implement a mandatory vaccination program for swine flu.

As we reported on Sunday, respondents to a London Times article concerning the fact that the vaccine will be rushed through safety procedures in just five days, increasing the chances of it causing deaths and injuries in the thousands, as happened with the 1977 mass vaccination program in the U.S. which killed more people than the actual swine flu virus, overwhelmingly indicated that they would refuse to take the shot.

At one point, out of the first 50 comments on the article, over 40 expressed opposition to taking the shot and the other handful were merely asking questions about it. Hardly any comments expressed support for the nationwide rollout of the swine flu vaccine.

The overwhelming majority of comments were in the context of the following sample.

“Nobody’s coming anywhere near me or my family with their experimental mass vaccine/poison programme,” wrote one. “We will take our chances of catching their manufactured bird/pig/human virus, that was accidentally on purpose! released onto an unsuspecting public in the first place!”

“Anybody who reads this obviously still has the ability to reason and be guided by their own survival instinct and thus should listen to it. The mass fear mongering is a worldwide, co-ordinated and open conspiracy with massive geo political underpinnings. Don’t be fooled, eat properly and exercise,” adds another.

“A vaccine that is – effectively – being tested on the population, the prime reasons for such being the economy and easing pressure on the NHS? I’ll be another one who passes,” comments another.

“Thanks but no thanks. Rushed through tests in 5 days? What about long term effects? Vioxx and Thalidomide had long testing. How safe did they turn out to be? The side effects of Statins that they want everyone to take are worrying. I’ll take my chances with cholesterol,” writes another.

As of today however, the original London Times article that featured the comments (Swine flu vaccine rushed through safety checks) has been completely wiped clean, and the scores of comments expressing refusal to comply with any potential mandatory vaccination program have been sent down the memory hole. ... ... ...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Tamiflu causing swine flu? Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8131350.stm
10:03 GMT, Friday, 3 July 2009 11:03 UK
BBC News
TAMIFLU POLICY WAS 'INDEFENSIBLE'

Welford Primary School in Birmingham was among places affected
Senior public health doctors in Birmingham have criticised the policy of giving tamiflu to patients without swine flu as "indefensible".
Jacky Chambers at Heart of Birmingham NHS Primary Care Trust, said the policy applied by the Health Protection Agency (HPA) was "inconsistent and confused".
The policy appeared to be politically driven, the doctor said in an open letter to the British Medical Journal.
The HPA said it was especially cautious initially when information was limited.
However, Dr Chambers, the trust's director of public health, said the policy had been ineffective and not based on any credible evidence…
… Dr Chambers wrote: "Mass prophylaxis of healthy people with antiviral drugs is an irrational, indefensible and ineffective response".
SHE ALSO WROTE SUCH POLICIES MAY PROMOTE "BAD HYGIENE PRACTICES" BECAUSE CHILDREN TREATED WITH TAMIFLU APPEARED TO HAVE LATER DEVELOPED SWINE FLU SYMPTOMS AND RETURNED TO SCHOOL STILL UNWELL.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The plan is that amongst the first to receive the vaccine, live and attenuated,in two doses, will be 3 to 16 year olds, all of them.
Are we now ready to stand against the potential massacre of our children?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul wright wrote:
The plan is that amongst the first to receive the vaccine, live and attenuated,in two doses, will be 3 to 16 year olds, all of them.
Are we now ready to stand against the potential massacre of our children?



I posted this on 'Jihad' thread yesterday:

Swine flu: Ramifications for Muslims?

This is more a question than anything. Of course, one cannot prevent catching swine flu. But what about the vaccine? Vaccines are normally, I believe, made with 'deactivated' organisms that are in the disease. As swine flu contains pig genetic material, it seems to me so would the vaccine.
What would the Muslim religious teaching be on taking this?
This is not a frivolous question; can anyone enlighten me?
This quandary will also, of course, effect practising Jews.


This is a possible source of a very strong 'stand'; I don't expect Muslims will accept vaccines if they know they contain pig genetic material.
There has been no response yet on the thread, but this is possibly the nail in the coffin of 'mandatory vaccination'.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And 'Martial Law', overriding all religious factors - what then for your kids? Could be 'Indian Mutiny' time, all over again? Must we bite the bullet?

What is really concerning me at present is the total blackout on rationality being displayed (or not, as the case may be!) in the MSM. Wherever I attempt to post some sense of perspective, either the comment is 'moderated', censored, or in the case above, totally wiped, article and all.

I have been quoting from this and other more 'bona fide' scientific and medical sites that seem to largely agree on the following:-

http://www.flufacts.com/impact/statistics.aspx
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In the U.S., an estimated 25–50 million cases of the flu are currently reported each year — leading to 150,000 hospitalizations and 30,000–40,000 deaths yearly. If these figures were to be estimated incorporating the rest of the world, there would be an average of approximately 1 billion cases of flu, around 3–5 million cases of severe illness, and 300,000–500,000 deaths annually.


see also:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmed id=19116016

If you have any better luck in the MSM comment pages, please let us know. Next stop, Washington Post...!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Thermate:

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In the U.S., an estimated 25–50 million cases of the flu are currently reported each year — leading to 150,000 hospitalizations and 30,000–40,000 deaths yearly. If these figures were to be estimated incorporating the rest of the world, there would be an average of approximately 1 billion cases of flu, around 3–5 million cases of severe illness, and 300,000–500,000 deaths annually.

There is of course a serious flaw in those extrapolations - a far bigger percentage of the Third World would die, from the flu being more effective in malnourished people, and with people who could not afford any medication; their depleted imune systems would fall prey far easier than over-fed, over-medicated Westerners (not that obese and Ritalin-fed sheeple have good immune systems). So death rate would be far greater among the Third World poor (how convenient for the Elite, the Bilderbergers, CFR's, Round Tablers, Prince Philips and 'Perfect Ashlars', population cullers one and all!).

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got this by email from 'up north' (no, not Rachel!!!):

'Say No to Vaccines':

I don't generally go with rap, but this is good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbSpPs05YAc

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is surely overriding all other issues.
The swine flu vaccination cull can not be allowed to happen unchallenged.
Its only a month or two or so away
All the other stuff, so very important, is swept aside to challenge this possible attempt to start killing off the population worldwide, us included
All our worst fears and predictions are coming to fulfillment
The ultimate financial collapse might easily follow a significantly sickened world, so resulting from two engineered situations
The govermental oppression and peer pressure to take the vaccine is going to become immense
I've got two boys in the first target group
I need to protect them from this genocidal attempt
No to the vaccine - we must start getting out there now
Just say no - NO NO NO NO NO

http://www.truthforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=1524

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.physorg.com/news160327633.html


Pigs, people may soon eat their way to flu resistance, say researchers

April 30th, 2009

(PhysOrg.com) -- A team of researchers from Iowa State University is putting flu vaccines into the genetic makeup of corn, which may someday allow pigs and humans to get a flu vaccination simply by eating corn or corn products.

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Err, is anyone else ever so slightly worried about ingesting this stuff? I notice there is no mention of how it will be labelled, and given the ongoing fight to ensure all GM products are correctly labelled I have grave misgivings about this miracle of science.

Codex Alimentarius anyone?


If we consume this miracle corn is there a possibility we will in the future in some senses be genetically 'branded' Monsanto, should they become involved in its patenting, by having the genetic structure bound within us, in the way vast swathes of the world have been branded by their failing corn?

http://nearing.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/17/2696807-monsanto-gm-corn- harvest-fails-massively-in-south-africa

I don't imagine the likelihood of 'CornyFlu' to be any more carefully manufactured than the above GM disaster, and most certainly wouldn't be happy if it cropped up in my cornflakes...

Also interesting to note scienceplease 2 and Disco that:

Rumsfeld once served as chairman of Gilead Sciences, Inc., the company that holds the patent on the antiviral drug Tamiflu, currently regarded as the world's best hope for the prevention and treatment of avian influenza. He still owns Gilead stock valued at between $5 million and $25 million.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_bird_flu.htm

Perhaps Rumsfeld is merely looking for his next massive cash cow, given the crop 'successes' detailed above.

How interesting that his Tamiflu and GM corn money spinners look like they're due to be combined in the most literal way...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GodSaveTheTeam wrote:
I notice there is no mention of how it will be labelled


The WHO rules do not allow the labeling of GM foods as GM as this is 'unfair trade practice'. All part of the NWO plan to feed us on bs (or in this case pig *).

Sorry, couldn't resit the pun

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