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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Nevada 9/11 Truth leader Jim Duensing tasered then shot Reply with quote

Libertarian 9/11 truth leader Jim Duensing shot in the back by cops

Jim Duensing, 2008 Congressional candidate and founder of the Libertarian 9/11 truth caucus Libertarians for Justice, is in critical condition after being repeatedly shot in the back and arm by a Las Vegas cop. Our prayers go out to Jim, who is recovering with his wife in the hospital and thankfully is expected to survive.

The standard police line about how the suspect was supposedly reaching for a gun, blah blah blah, was contradicted by an eyewitness: "They shot him in the back," she said. "He was just running."

If you don't like this post-9/11 post-Constitution USA where uniformed thugs feel free to shoot people in the back, please support Jim's two big causes, libertarianism and 9/11 truth.

Here's wishing Jim a speedy recovery. I'm looking forward to having him back on my radio shows ASAP God willing.

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http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2009/11/libertarian-911-truth-leader-ji m.html
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: LP Activist Shot in the Back by Police; Local LP Throws Him Reply with quote

LP Activist Shot in the Back by Police; Local LP Throws Him Under the Bus

Posted by Eric Garris on November 2, 2009 01:01 PM

On October 30, Jim Duensing, former chairman of the Nevada Libertarian Party and currently the LP candidate for US Senate against Harry Reid, was shot in the back by a Las Vegas policeman after the police had stopped Duensing for making an illegal turn and some illegal lane changes.

Initial reports said that Duensing ran from the police and that a policeman shot him in the back after “he tried to pull a handgun from his pocket.” An eyewitness reported that he was not going for a gun, but was merely trying to keep his pants up while fleeing.

Duensing is recovering and reports (see comment #73 here) that he started running after the officer used a taser on him:

With my hands raised above my head, the cop shot me with a taser in the chest. As I have had heart problems since my premature birth, I believe a Taser to be a lethal weapon. Several people without heart conditions have been killed by this weapon.

When the taser began electrocuting me, instinct took over….

I immediately turned to my left and began moving away from the source of the electrocution. By the time I got to the back of the vehicle, I had reached up with both hands, grabbed the electrodes, and pulled them away from my chest. The juice then flowed through my arms – not my heart. As I lay here in my hospital bed, I firmly believe this instinct saved my life.

I continued running away from the taser. I heard the cop fire it again, but did not feel an additional shock. I was running down the sidewalk with empty hands. I heard three pops from behind me.

(Read the rest of Duensing’s detailed narrative here.)

Before talking to Duensing or trying to verify any information, the local Libertarian Party issued the following in a press release:

The Libertarian Party of Clark County has no information, other than what the local media has reported, regarding the officer involved shooting of Raymond “Jim” Duensing. Until the events surrounding this incident are fully investigated, we will refrain from making any further statements.

The Libertarian Party of Clark County does not advocate fleeing the police as a means of peaceful conflict resolution. Raymond “Jim” Duensing, although a past officer of the party, holds no official standing within our party as an elected officer. Our thoughts go out to Jim Duensing, his family, and the officer involved in this incident (emphasis added).

Nathan Santucci, Chair, Clark County Libertarian Party

According to Duensing, “the CCLP had not issued a press release in years. I’m not sure why it felt compelled to issue one in this instance which contained misstatements of fact and which clearly tried to distance the CCLP from one of its members. Although, not an officer, I am a voting member of the CCLP excomm. Needless to say, my editing advice was not sought on the press release before it was issued.”

Duensing asks that, instead of flowers, please send contributions to his campaign at HellForHarry.com.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a geezer, what a barbaric weapon this tazer is, especially in the hands of cowards.

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Jim Duensing // Nov 1, 2009 at 6:42 pm

First, I’d like to thank everyone for their prayers and well wishes.

I have suffered a broken arm. It is currently pinned in 4 places. Additional surgery on it will probably take place on Wednesday.

The shots to my midsection missed all vital organs. Three shots were fired from behind me and to my right. The doctors believe that two of the shots made contact. It appears that one entered my right pec, bounced off my sternum, went through my left pec, then shattered my humerous just above my left elbow. The second shot went in my lower right abdomen and exited my left abdomen without hitting any vital organs.

I am well on the way to recovery. and expect to be released from the hospital shortly after my surgery on Wednesday.

I am disappointed that the CCLP issued a press release without having spoken to me first. As a result, it contains misstatements of fact.

Here is what happened.

I was pulled over for driving straight through an intersection in a right turn only lane. I did signal for my lane changes to the left.

After exiting the vehicle at the officer’s request, I was standing with my back to the vehicle. The car’s open door was to my right. My hands were raised above my head. I was calmly speaking to the cop attempting to talk my way out of being taken to jail over an unpaid High Occupancy Vehicle ticket.

With my hands raised above my head, the cop shot me with a taser in the chest. As I have had heart problems since my premature birth, I believe a Taser to be a lethal weapon. Several people without heart conditions have been killed by this weapon.

When the taser began electrocuting me, instinct took over. I have been shocked by standard 120 volt electricity, which is what is used in your home. That was bad enough. Metro’s tasers contain “50,000 volts of pain compliance” according to one of the cops at the family law court who was operating the checkpoint.

Let me tell you, it is quite painful.

I immediately turned to my left and began moving away from the source of the electrocution. By the time I got to the back of the vehicle, I had reached up with both hands, grabbed the electrodes, and pulled them away from my chest. The juice then flowed through my arms - not my heart. As I lay here in my hospital bed, I firmly believe this instinct saved my life.......................

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonder if the video footage from the police car will reveal anything if it ever sees the light of day.
Tasered and shot for a traffic offence . Thats Zero tolerance for you.

Obviously some fat ass cop thought that a tasered man on the loose was going to be a danger to the public and instaed of expending energy in chasing after him thought 3 bullets would catch him faster than he could.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: TRAFFIC STOP: Shooting accounts conflict Reply with quote

TRAFFIC STOP: Shooting accounts conflict

Attorney denies police report he pulled gun from pocket


The attorney who was shot multiple times by a Las Vegas police officer during a traffic stop last week denies that he pulled a gun from his pocket, as police said he did.

Raymond James "Jim" Duensing, a 32-year-old lawyer who unsuccessfully ran for Congress, on Sunday used a political Web site to post his account of what happened before the shooting.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man Shot by Officer Speaks Out

The man who was shot by a Metro police officer is speaking out. 32-year-old Raymond James Duensing used a website to recount his version of what happend when he was shot. He claims that he was pulled over on Cheyenne Ave just West of Michael Way by motorcycle officer David Gilbert. Gilbert allegedly stopped him for driving through an intersection in a right turn only lane. He claims that he stepped out of the vehicle with his arms above his head and thats when the officer used his Taser. Duesning says he pulled the taser prongs from his chest and out of instinct started to run, that's when he was shot. He did have a knife and gun on him but he claims he never took them out. Gilbert has been placed on administrative leave and an investigation is pending.

http://www.kxnt.com/Man-Shot-by-Officer-Speaks-Out/5586504

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Man Shot By Vegas Police Denies Pulling Gun

A former Libertarian congressional candidate on Tuesday denied police
accounts that he pulled a gun while running from a Las Vegas police officer who shot him last week.

Raymond James Duensing Jr. said he was the author of a Web posting that acknowledged he had a gun and a knife in his pockets when he ran from Officer David Gilbert after he was stopped in a rental car for a traffic violation. He also wrote that he always carries a gun and at least one knife, and that his gun was licensed and registered.

"I NEVER pulled either of these items out of my pockets," he wrote.

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Candidate: Arrest, Taser 'Quite Painful'

Duensing Ran For Congress In 2008


An attorney who plans to challenge Sen. Harry Reid in 2010 claimed his recent arrest during a traffic stop in Las Vegas left him with a broken arm.

In an online statement to supporters, Raymond “James” Duensing denied pulling a gun from his pocket when he was approached by officers last week in the area of Cheyenne Avenue and Michael Way.

He admitted, however, having a registered pistol in one pocket and a folding knife in another.

Duensing said he was pulled over for driving through an intersection in a right turn only lane. He was also questioned about an unpaid traffic ticket.

After he was pulled over, police said Duensing was uncooperative and forced the officer to shoot him with his Taser. Duensing claimed he was “calmly speaking” to the officer and did nothing to provoke him.

“With my hands raised above my head, the cop shot me with a Taser in the chest,” he said in a statement. “Let me tell you, it’s quite painful.”

Metro police have not commented on the investigation.

After he is released from the hospital, Duensing plans to renew his pursuit of Reid’s senate seat. In 2008, he ran unsuccessfully for Congress as a Libertarian, garnering only 2 percent of the vote against popular Democrat Shelley Berkley.

http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/21507755/detail.html


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fish5133 wrote:
Wonder if the video footage from the police car will reveal anything if it ever sees the light of day.
Tasered and shot for a traffic offence . Thats Zero tolerance for you.

Obviously some fat ass cop thought that a tasered man on the loose was going to be a danger to the public and instaed of expending energy in chasing after him thought 3 bullets would catch him faster than he could.

Or he was targeted
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Quote of the Week Regarding Jim Duensing by MelissaWV: Reply with quote

Quote of the Week Regarding Jim Duensing by MelissaWV:

"Holy wow this guy is Rambo! He was simultaneously running, holding his pants up, pulling a handgun AND pulling a folding knife! These cops were certainly in mortal danger, because someone this awesome was OBVIOUSLY going to shoot over his shoulder, like in the movies, and hit one of them squarely between the eyes, while flinging his knife and piercing the other one's heart. Then he was going to leap into a getaway vehicle driven by a beautiful woman, and threaten our freedom!"


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul wright wrote:
fish5133 wrote:
Wonder if the video footage from the police car will reveal anything if it ever sees the light of day.
Tasered and shot for a traffic offence . Thats Zero tolerance for you.

Obviously some fat ass cop thought that a tasered man on the loose was going to be a danger to the public and instaed of expending energy in chasing after him thought 3 bullets would catch him faster than he could.

Or he was targeted


I kept my conspiracy hat off for a moment. But you never know although the current modus operandi seems to be falling from tall buildings.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Duensing Shooting Story Grows Legs

http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2009/11/jim-duensing-shooting-story-gro ws-legs.html
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: "They shot him in the back." Reply with quote

"They shot him in the back."

See Jim recovering at the hospital, and with Dylan Avery at the 2008 Libertarian Leadership Conference:

http://www.liberty-watch.com/2010/1/duensing.php

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Read the Official Police Press Release of October 30:

http://www.lvmpd.com/news/pdfs/2009/103009release.pdf
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:53 am    Post subject: Cop who shot Jim Duensing linked to terrorist group? Reply with quote

Cop who shot Jim Duensing linked to terrorist group?

The Las Vegas cop who shot Libertarian senatorial candidate Jim Duensing in the back may be linked to terrorism, according to internet sleuth "Guy Fawkes." A post at Veterans for Secure Borders by a "David Gilbert, Nevada, E-6, US ARMY, 12" offers proof that a police officer named David Gilbert from Nevada was a long-time member of the world's leading terrorist group.

http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2009/11/cop-who-shot-jim-duensing-linke d-to.html
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject: Why the Innocent Flee From the Police Reply with quote

Why the Innocent Flee From the Police

by William Norman Grigg

"Why did he run?" This question thrusts itself upon us every time an unarmed or otherwise harmless person is gunned down while fleeing from police.

Often that inquiry takes the form that assumes the guilt of the victim:

"If he did nothing wrong, why did he run?"

It's also common for that second version to contort itself into a nicely circular argument:

"Well, he ran, and resisting arrest is a crime, so obviously he got what was coming to him."

For reasons unclear to a mind not enthralled by statist assumptions, most people simply assume that both reason and morality dictate an unqualified duty to surrender without cavil or complaint whenever armed, violence-prone strangers in peculiar government-issued garb seek to restrain one of us.

This is why police are trained to interpret any hesitation, reluctance to cooperate, inhospitable body language, or verbal expression of resentment as "resisting arrest" and thus a justification for the use of "pain compliance" – or even lethal force. Police and their apologists likewise insist – contrary to both law and judicial precedent – that there is no right to resist even a clearly unwarranted or abusive arrest, or even for a citizen to take steps to protect himself when he's on the receiving end of unjustified physical violence from police.Police are constantly catechized about the dangers they encounter when they conduct traffic stops or detain people on the street. Why, the random "civilian" they encounter might be armed, trained in the use of weapons, and prepared to use violence without warning! This is to say that this hypothetical "civilian" would be ... just like the typical police officer.

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