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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi again Prole, no more posting of links to offensive pictures please.

If you think I should be banning Andrew and/or KBO please point out offensive material then PM me & I'll have a look. tks

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The above is OK for kbo & Andrew because they claim to share your Christian faith? And btw which of the images posted by Dogsmilk did you consider obscene?
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I think Tony saw it as goading and uncouth posting a picture of a penis; I do too. I have mostly and courteously answered your questions prole and gave my opinion and with evidence to back it up. I apologise if what I say comes across as rude, as I try to keep it short and to the point. As for Thermate, I mostly agree with all his views, but perhaps some thought it goading to ask questions about Christianity in certain ways, as we should all know how it's been abused. They have only been suspended and I look forward to Thermate’s return. Dogmilks has also only been suspended, but find him rude continually. Perhaps we should all learn some better manners, I include myself because I have been to short at times and not courteous enough for which I apologise.

People can look through the thread and decide for themselves and for now I’ll leave it at that, out of courtesy for Tony.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reinstate Dogsmilk: http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=19995
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi again Prole, no more posting of links to offensive pictures please.

If you think I should be banning Andrew and/or KBO please point out offensive material then PM me & I'll have a look. tks

Here: pushing the Protocols of Zion.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The above is OK for kbo & Andrew because they claim to share your Christian faith? And btw which of the images posted by Dogsmilk did you consider obscene?
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I think Tony saw it as goading and uncouth posting a picture of a penis; I do too. I have mostly and courteously answered your questions prole and gave my opinion and with evidence to back it up. I apologise if what I say comes across as rude, as I try to keep it short and to the point. As for Thermate, I mostly agree with all his views, but perhaps some thought it goading to ask questions about Christianity in certain ways, as we should all know how it's been abused. They have only been suspended and I look forward to Thermate’s return. Dogmilks has also only been suspended, but find him rude continually. Perhaps we should all learn some better manners, I include myself because I have been to short at times and not courteous enough for which I apologise.

People can look through the thread and decide for themselves and for now I’ll leave it at that, out of courtesy for Tony.

A penis isn't offensive what is really offensive are images of the mass graves of victims of a great genocide.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrong but.. what does a penis add to your discussion Bridget?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wrong but.. what does a penis add to your discussion Bridget?
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A penis isn't offensive what is really offensive are images of the mass graves of victims of a great genocide.

Was I replying to this point made by Andrew?
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I think Tony saw it as goading and uncouth posting a picture of a penis; I do too.

Perhaps you could ask him what he means? I doubt he could offer a coherent explanation though.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew, has it occured to you that Jacob Venedy might have been dishing the dirt on someone. A whistleblower?
Please remember pushing the protocols a unquestioned fact is strictly prohibited on here for the Hitlerian reasons stated many times over.
You must take the time to clearly reference the assertions you make such as the entirely unreferenced comments on Jacob Venedy etc. etc. etc.
Please take this as a final warning on this matter.

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Critics of the Protocols' genuineness have claimed that they were a forgery, derived from earlier documents and used as propaganda against the Jews by their opponents. As I hope I have shown here, the documents most certainly do derive from an earlier common source, but that does not make them forgeries, any more than latest encyclopaedia can be condemned as a deliberate forgery because previous works of an almost identical nature already exist.
This argument also falls down on another point, which actually operates in favour of the theory of the Jewish origin, rather than against it. It has often been argued that the Protocols bear remarkable likeness to a book called 'Dialogues aux Enfers entre Machiavelli et Montesquieu' (also known as the 'Geneva Dialogues'), published anonymously in Brussels in 1865. However, the passages quoted as being plagiarised from the Geneva Dialogues for the Protocols are remarkably similar to those in a book published in 1850, called, similarly, 'Machiavelli, Montesquieu and Rousseau' by Jacob Venedy. And Venedy was a Jew and a Freemason! He was a revolutionary and also a close associate of the Jew Karl Marx (real name Mordecai,) and Maurice Joly, the true author of the Geneva Dialogues! 'Marx's father Heinrich, whose original name was Hirschel ha-Levi, was the son of a rabbi and the descendant of talmudic scholars for many generations.' (Encyclopaedia Judaica, 1997). Marx's Communist Manifesto is clearly Illuminist, and very much in parallel with the Protocols.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nathan Mayer Rothschild

Family

On 22 October 1806 in London he married Hannah Barent-Cohen (1783–1850), daughter of Levi Barent-Cohen (1747–1808) and wife Lydia Diamantschleifer and paternal granddaughter of Barent Cohen and wife, whose other son Salomon David Barent-Cohen (d. 1807) married Sara Brandes, great-grandparents of Karl Marx.[1] Their children were:

1. Charlotte Rothschild (1807–1859) married Anselm von Rothschild
2. Lionel Nathan (1808–1879)
3. Anthony Nathan (1810–1876)
4. Nathaniel (1812–1870)
5. Hannah Mayer (1815–1864) married Hon. Henry FitzRoy (1807–1859)
6. Mayer Amschel (1818–1874)
7. Louise (1820–1894) married Mayer Karl von Rothschild


There is also a french Wiki source about Maurice Joly and Jacob Venedy.

But it's not allowed to be posted.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nathan Mayer Rothschild

Family

On 22 October 1806 in London he married Hannah Barent-Cohen (1783–1850), daughter of Levi Barent-Cohen (1747–1808) and wife Lydia Diamantschleifer and paternal granddaughter of Barent Cohen and wife, whose other son Salomon David Barent-Cohen (d. 1807) married Sara Brandes, great-grandparents of Karl Marx.[1] Their children were:

1. Charlotte Rothschild (1807–1859) married Anselm von Rothschild
2. Lionel Nathan (1808–1879)
3. Anthony Nathan (1810–1876)
4. Nathaniel (1812–1870)
5. Hannah Mayer (1815–1864) married Hon. Henry FitzRoy (1807–1859)
6. Mayer Amschel (1818–1874)
7. Louise (1820–1894) married Mayer Karl von Rothschild


There is also a french Wiki source about Maurice Joly and Jacob Venedy.

But it's not allowed to be posted.


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A very nasty little game you like to play Andrew - Hunt the Jew - Hitler would be so very proud!

Don't bother to respond to me as I find you both irritating and noxious.

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A very nasty little game you like to play Andrew - Hunt the Jew - Hitler would be so very proud!

Don't bother to respond to me as I find you both irritating and noxious.


Don't twist it prole, Hitler was Ashkenazi (Ayran) as was Nathan Mayer Rothschild, etc, etc.

Not that it should matter, but it does to some.
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By the time an infected abscess caused his death in 1836, his personal net worth amounted to 0.62% of British national income.[8] He had also secured the position of the Rothschilds as the preeminent investment bankers in Britain and Europe. His son, Lionel Nathan Rothschild (1808–1879), continued the family business in England.

Nathan Mayer Rothschild and his wife Hannah are buried in the Brady Street Ashkenazi Cemetery in Whitechapel.

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... ... ...I’m still waiting for someone to explain to me how Dwight Eisenhower, Winston Churchill and Charles de Gaulle could write tens of thousands of post war memoirs and never mention death camps and crematoriums. I’m waiting for someone to explain how taking over three million from the death count at Auschwitz does not affect the number of six million as the official tally. There are a lot of statistics I would love to have explained to me but no one seems able to. I’m especially interested in how the world population for a certain demographic actually went up during the war years. The census reports a trend that can’t possibly be true but....it has to be. It’s the law.

From the moment I first heard this man speak, I said to myself, he’s off. Something’s not right with this fellow. There are other writers that have been around for awhile who are bigged up about Palestinian rights but who set my teeth on edge. It’s not because their writing lacks any kind of passion or fire, although that is the case. It’s something behind the front agenda that creates a disconnect between what I’m being told and what I’m feeling.

I am mystified as to why there are so few voices- and almost none among those who could actually make a difference- that will stand up and call this masquerade for what it really is. It’s one of the most cynical and manipulative efforts in the whole of history and millions of people are freeloading on it and adding their own fantastic and impossible tales to the mix. They are striving to out do each other in the theater of the ridiculous and they’ve got no shame or hesitation concerning it. Is it some kind of genetic insanity that travels along particular bloodlines or is it the close proximity to so much money, that only requires the use of a slanderous title or the threat of public injury to one’s persona, to have wheelbarrows of cash pull up to the door. Yeah, it’s a money machine and it just keeps expanding like McDonald’s franchises, so that there’s a McHolocaust outlet somewhere near you, in case you’re looking for ideas about how to support your family in these trying times, in large part brought to you courtesy of the same people.

Far be it from me to deny the holocaust because, there very definitely was one and it was performed on the German people as much as anyone of the time. It was performed on them by the Zionist run Soviet army on the one hand and the Zionist controlled U.S. on the other and it was from there that the war was first declared on Germany by the neo-Pharisees. They were all hot and bothered because Hitler was none too pleased about what was happening to the German economy or in the Cabaret Society of Berlin.

This is how the holocaust should be remembered, as something that happened to the German people, as much as to anyone and that the Zionists who refused to let aid packages through to those in the camps, were the same Zionists who wouldn’t let the Red Cross even into the gulags in Russia and that, given the tens of millions they killed in Russia, it makes perfect sense that whatever happened in WW2 was a minor payback for much larger crimes. Of course they threw other members of The Tribe under the bus in order to orchestrate an imprimatur for the Rothschild banking syndicate called Israel. In the words of Ben Gurion and so many others, it didn’t matter how many Jews had to die in the camps as long as they could get their hands on Palestine, which at the time was somebody else’s country. This was a land with people on it, for people who wanted to steal the land and that’s what Zionism and neo- Pharissezium is all about. ... ... ...


http://smokingmirrors.blogspot.com/2011/02/holocaust-porn-i-know-it-wh en-i-see-it.html

Just as with 9/11 Truth, this subject cannot be squashed and so diabolically manipulated for much longer, whatever the 'censors' here and elsewhere attempt.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, is anyone here beginning to see or admit the longterm pattern yet? These might just help to overcome your congenital blindness/squeamishness/cowardice/monarch-control:-

"The Arab Revolutions and Us: Start Quaking in Your Boots!"
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23270

and

"Israel Fears Grow More Acute"
http://www.businessinsider.com/israeli-fears-grow-more-acute-2011-2

and

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/helen-thomas-jews-didn-t-have-to-l eave-europe-following-holocaust-1.344196

Banning NK is looking sillier by the day and totally discredits this website, IMO (apart from discrediting the regular character assassination tactics of 'those-who-must-not-be-named')

Wakey wakey - you have been conned from birth and beyond...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your 'congenital blindness' David Sherlock (Thermate) is that you can't see the problem with Nick Kollerstrom being a Nazi apologist who believes concentration camp victims died of 'famine' and that not a single untermensch was gassed by the Nazis in world war two.

That is your congenital blindness and unless you understand that your presence here is pointless.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your 'congenital blindness' David Sherlock (Thermate) is that you can't see the problem with Nick Kollerstrom being a Nazi apologist who believes concentration camp victims died of 'famine' and that not a single untermensch was gassed by the Nazis in world war two.

That is your congenital blindness and unless you understand that your presence here is pointless.



Thats not what Nick has said Tony, and its agreed by many that people did die of disease in the camps.
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Your 'congenital blindness' David Sherlock (Thermate) is that you can't see the problem with Nick Kollerstrom being a Nazi apologist who believes concentration camp victims died of 'famine' and that not a single untermensch was gassed by the Nazis in world war two.


Tony, why not stick to established fact rather than attempting to slur and denigrate your protagonists? For instance, have you ever taken the trouble to trawl through Hansard for the years 1905-1911? You might be uncomfortably surprised at what you might find.

Now, talking about fact rather than character assassination, I have been puzzling over this curious tautology of yours for months and still can't make any sense of it:-

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The main reason is actually that opening a debate about whether or not the term Holocaust is justified to describe the Nazis' treatment of Jews and other 'inferiors' is entertaining the idea that it didn't happen.
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also, you might like to contemplate this before replying with more inaccurate assertions (like insisting that I am Mr Sherlock, with apologies to Dave S and Dr.Parnassus for being unwittingly and erroneously focused upon by you):-

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In Buddhism, one aspect of the Eightfold Path, Sama Vaca, is most often translated into English as Right Speech, but a more accurate rendering is Wise Speech or even Skillful Speech, which helpfully suggests speech that is acquired through practice.

The concept of Intentional Speech is being mindful of one's purpose in speaking.

The following story illustrates well the power of words:

An old Buddhist master spoke to his students: "Tonight I would like to speak to you about wise speech. According to the Buddha, wise speech is that which is truthful, gentle, helpful, spoken from a kind heart and is timely."

Then he spoke at great length about the harm that results from rude, mean spirited, harsh or careless words. A young disciple said, "Venerable sir, I do not understand how this can be. A stone can bruise. Theft can deprive. But words are just sounds, having no substance. I must disagree with you when you suggest they are so powerful."

The master replied, "If you weren't such an ignorant idiot, you'd understand. So sit down, shut up and stop interrupting."

The startled young man fell silent, but about ten minutes later jumped to his feet, face red, eyes bulging, fists clenched, his whole body shaking.

The old man turned to him, "You seem perturbed. Your gentle disposition is shattered. What happened to you?"

"You hurtled harsh insults I did not deserve. You cannot possibly be the great teacher you pretend to be. You are a fraud!"

The old man responded, "Ah, I see. It was my words that had such a transforming effect upon you. It seems you and I agree that speech can be quite powerful."

Words, especially from those we consider leaders, can guide us or deceive us, make us knowledgeable or ignorant, violent or peaceful, sad or joyful, wise or foolish.

Words give birth to ideas, which in turn create powerful emotions, which rule the hearts of men and women, who then can act constructively or destructively, for justice or injustice.

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As for NK, I have said my piece and got suspended for it. No, he is not entirely accurate (but certainly more so than the incredible fog of myth that surrounds all Zionist dealings and official history!) and never mentions the gas vans clearly established to have been used against all minorities at least in the Ukraine, according to SS General Kammler.

However, calling NK a 'Nazi apologist' is not only inaccurate and petty, it is also dangerously, semiotically loaded in the 'true' zionist manner. By this means, you dilute your (our!) own agenda - the "Quest for Truth", IMO by using the tools of mankind's present #1 enemy.

I can find nowhere, on any forum, anything written by NK where he apologises for Nazi behaviour. Can you?

Finally, I strongly object to the term 'Holocaust[tm]' being emotively bandied about for mere political gain.

Dresden, yes
Hiroshima, yes
Nagasaki, yes

...otherwise, no. Attempted genocide of Jews? Most certainly!

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And all this because Nick Kollerstrom insisted it was necessary to link 9/11 and 7/7 truth campaigns to Holocaust revisionism.
That may be for another campaign but not for this one and not for this forum either.

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EXCLUSIVE: Jeremy Corbyn's brother Piers gives a speech alongside a notorious Holocaust denier and a 9/11 conspiracy theorist

By Jake Wallis Simons, Associate Global Editor
10:46, 13 Nov 2016, updated 14:12, 14 Nov 2016
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3906394/Jeremy-Corbyn-s-brothe r-Piers-gives-speech-alongside-notorious-Holocaust-denier-9-11-conspir acy-theorist.html#comments

Corbyn was welcomed to the stage by disgraced academic Nicholas Kollerstrom, who was disowned by UCL for denying the Holocaust
He appeared alongside Ian Fantom, a 9/11 conspiracy theorist who was wearing a T-shirt saying '9/11 and 7/7 were staged'
Kollerstrom's books on Holocaust denial were openly on sale at the event
Corbyn was pictured laughing and joking with the two men
In his speech, he claimed that man made climate change was a 'lie' and later suggested that the 9/11 attacks may have been staged
Piers Corbyn has appeared on stage alongside a notorious Holocaust denier and a leading 9/11 conspiracy theorist to give a speech claiming that man made climate change is a 'lie' promoted for profit by a global elite.

Corbyn stood beside conspiracy theorist Ian Fantom, who was wearing a T-shirt saying '9/11 and 7/7 were staged'. Books by the Holocaust denier, Nicholas Kollerstrom, were openly on sale at the event.

Corbyn did not object to the T-shirt or offensive books when they were brought to his attention, and was pictured joking with the two men before and after his speech.

Responding to questions from the audience, the 69-year-old weather scientist later said he believed that the official explanation for the 9/11 attacks was problematic.

He opened the talk with a reference to his brother, Jeremy, the Labour leader, and referred to him several times throughout the hour-long session that was attended by about 50 people.

‘I’m not going to talk about politics, as you well know, but beyond that I am my brother’s brother. He used to be my brother, now I’m his brother,’ he said.

Piers Corbyn, left, is welcomed to the stage by disgraced academic Nicholas Kollerstrom, right, a notorious Holocaust denier who was disowned by University College London in 2008
Piers Corbyn, left, is welcomed to the stage by disgraced academic Nicholas Kollerstrom, right, a notorious Holocaust denier who was disowned by University College London in 2008
Corbyn, left, takes questions from the audience alongside Ian Fantom, right, a prominent 9/11 conspiracy theorist, who was wearing a T-shirt saying 'non-violent extremist' on the front
Corbyn, left, takes questions from the audience alongside Ian Fantom, right, a prominent 9/11 conspiracy theorist, who was wearing a T-shirt saying 'non-violent extremist' on the front
The back of Fantom's shirt displayed the slogan, '9/11 and 7/7 were staged', leaving both Corbyn and the audience under no illusion about the nature of his controversial beliefs
The back of Fantom's shirt displayed the slogan, '9/11 and 7/7 were staged', leaving both Corbyn and the audience under no illusion about the nature of his controversial beliefs
Holocaust denier Kollerstrom, left, and Corbyn, right, chat to members of the audience
Holocaust denier Kollerstrom, left, and Corbyn, right, chat to members of the audience
Corbyn, left, is deep in discussion with Fantom, right, as they prepare for the event
Corbyn, left, is deep in discussion with Fantom, right, as they prepare for the event
Corbyn, left, and Fantom, right, share an intimate moment while setting up the stage
Corbyn, left, and Fantom, right, share an intimate moment while setting up the stage
Kollerstrom's book denying the Holocaust was openly on sale at the event where Corbyn was a keynote speaker
Kollerstrom's book denying the Holocaust was openly on sale at the event where Corbyn was a keynote speaker
A member of the audience browses Kollerstrom's books about Holocaust denial
A member of the audience browses Kollerstrom's books about Holocaust denial
The event, which took place on Tuesday night at St Saviour’s church in Pimlico, London, was organised by the Keep Talking Group, a small organisation devoted mainly to 9/11 conspiracy theories. Corbyn was the keynote speaker.

One of the organisers, Nicholas Kollerstrom – who has called the Holocaust a ‘primal myth’ that ‘never happened’ and claimed that the gas chambers were used only to ‘kill bugs’ – introduced Corbyn, calling him a ‘unique British scientist’.

Kollerstrom's book, Breaking The Spell: The Holocaust, Myth And Reality, was openly on sale in the hall.

The disgraced academic, who was stripped of his Honorary Fellowship by University College London (UCL) in 2008 after publishing an article entitled 'The Auschwitz “Gas Chamber” Illusion', was pictured signing books before the speech.

Also on stage was the Keep Talking Group’s founder, Ian Fantom, who had invited Corbyn to take part in the event. His group aims to prove that 9/11 and 7/7 were set-ups, and he has called David Cameron ‘every bit as bad as Adolf Hitler’.

Fantom appeared alongside Corbyn wearing a T-shirt saying ‘9/11 and 7/7 were staged’ on the back, and ‘non-violent extremist’ on the front – a reference to a phase used by Cameron to criticise conspiracy theorists.

In his speech, the well-known ‘9/11 Truther’ recommended a play called I.S.I.S., which promotes the idea that the World Trade Centre attacks were staged and features a character referred to as ‘Gay Jew Brad’.

He said: ‘Ten years ago, when my association turned on me – as the press has just turned on Trump and the British press is turning on Putin – I realised that you are judged not by the quality of your research but entirely on whether other people like the results.’

He then drew a parallel between his own work and that of Corbyn, saying that the scientist had ‘passed the Galileo test’ because he ‘stood up to authority’ in denying climate change.

Also for sale was a book by Kollerstrom, 69, entitled How Britain Initiated Both World Wars, and another exploring the idea that Paul McCartney died on ‘9/11 of 1966’ and was replaced by an impostor.

When the controversial T-shirt and books were brought to Corbyn's attention during questions from the audience, he said:

‘Sometimes it’s better not to [express my] views in public. But I think the stuff about 9/11 is pretty unbelievable. I know a lot of scientists who think so.

'In fact, I was invited over to America at one point, in fact to talk about climate, but there was a second agenda they had on to talk to me about 9/11, you know. There’s stuff [in the official explanation] that makes no sense to a rational mind.’

In a statement given to MailOnline after the event, Fantom said that Corbyn had been 'set up by the press in order to smear his brother', and that the 'distortion and manipulation' was coming from 'the Israel lobby'.

Corbyn talks to members of the audience after his well-received speech in Pimlico, London
Corbyn talks to members of the audience after his well-received speech in Pimlico, London


James Thring, a conspiracy theorist with links to former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke, who has campaigned for the release of Holocaust denier David Irving, was in the audience
James Thring, a conspiracy theorist with links to former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke, who has campaigned for the release of Holocaust denier David Irving, was in the audience
James Thring, a conspiracy theorist who has links with former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke and has campaigned for the release of Holocaust denier David Irving, was pictured at the event.

When he took the floor, Corbyn delivered a rambling lecture in which he argued that the notion of climate change had been fabricated by a global elite in order to enrich themselves and ‘control the world’.

‘This is the agenda of the globalisation story backed by the climate change authorities,’ he said. ‘You see, the climate change, it’s an ideology used to promote globalisation and the super-profits of Wall Street.’

In response to a round of applause, he smiled and made the ‘peace’ sign with his fingers, a gesture that he repeated a number of times during the event.

He added: ‘Any scare story will be used by someone to make money, whether it’s true or not. The CO2 one is false, and it’s been used to make a lot of money.

‘Kids have been brainwashed, that’s for sure.’

In a statement to MailOnline, Corbyn said: ‘I and anyone have the freedom to attend or not any public meeting I am invited to irrespective of who else may be present unknown to me without fear of “Stasi style” spying or reportage.’

He added that this was the first time he had been involved with the group and its controversial organisers.

However, he stood by his belief that 'there are certain (expertly reported) problems with what we are told [about 9/11] – as indeed there are many problems with what we hear from the White House'.

Corbyn, the older brother of Labour leader Jeremy, was a squatter’s rights campaigner in the Seventies and served as a Labour councillor in the late Eighties. He left the party in 2002, but supported his brother’s leadership campaign in 2015.

Jeremy Corbyn was engulfed in a similar scandal last year when MailOnline revealed that he had attended ‘two or three’ events hosted by Paul Eisen, a prominent Holocaust denier, and may have made a donation to his group.

PIERS CORBYN STATEMENT IN FULL

‘I speak to a very wide range of organisations across the political, business and international spectrum who invite me to talk about weather and climate; my attendance does not in any way imply, or is ever taken to imply, I support anything they or their members do or think.

‘I was invited by Ian, no-one else, convener of the ‘Keep Talking' organisation which entertains a wide range of speakers and my attendance was never suggested to imply agreement or not with any view he or anyone involved or present may have.

‘In my presentation and in public questions through the chair of the meeting I explained why we at WeatherAction.com strongly find that the idea of man made climate change fails. I was asked an irrelevant question about 9/11 and nevertheless said there are certain (expertly reported) problems with what we are told – as indeed there are many problems with what we hear from the White House! Some in the audience appeared to want my comments for reasons known only to themselves, on a number of other matters which were not relevant and so were ignored by the chair and not taken.

‘On my brother I support his leadership of the Labour Party 100 per cent and while we agree on most things we do not expect to agree with each other on everything, even football! I object to attempts to damage Jeremy by indirect association with people with whom I may accidentally have been present at the same meeting in Pimlico or anywhere. I and anyone have the freedom to attend or not any public meeting I am invited to irrespective of who else may be present unknown to me without fear of "Stasi style" spying or reportage.

‘What anything the attendee you describe as Nick or anyone else there thinks on any matter is nothing to do with me any more than the religious views of others present on the bus home.’

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:48 am    Post subject: Re: Common Sense Reply with quote

Touche!

Wakeymedia wrote:
Hello people.

Here's some common sense - if we allow the campaign to expose the 9/11 crimes for what they were to be sidetracked by people who, for some unfathomable reason, are determined to throw Holocaust denial into the mix then we are doing Babylon's work for it. When this campaign gets bogged down by slavering loonies like Mr Kollerstrom the "Intelligence" Services and the Black-Ops units can simply breath a sigh of relief, put their feet up and their kettles on and take the day off. They know it: we should too.

It. Is. As. Simple. As. That.

That was a Common Sense announcement from the Dept. of The Bleedin' Obvious.

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