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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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even truthers cant believe their eyes

(Visible Explosions) NEW VIDEO SEPT 2011. WTC Building 7 Controlled Demolition.


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In this video, you can see the bombs going off in WTC Building Seven which caused it to collapse. 9/11 was an inside job, wake up people and take back what has been stolen from you!

Download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SJUK0T4D


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In this video, you can see the bombs going off in WTC Building Seven which caused it to collapse. Its your call compare other videos to this one.

may be a fake ? considering it claims to be new footage, really after 10 years?
You make the call if it is fact or fiction on the video above.

if you feel its a fake please feel free to send your evidence t the site and Ill post it.

From a different angle of the same side of the tower



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems it could be a flipped image (doctored) unless it's taken from the southside hmm clear as mud as usual Sad

Although from the North side the smoke is drifting east so could this new footage be from the south side?

I've ruled out south side Sad no sloping window


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Proof of Fakery (see notes)


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Someone uploaded a supposedly new video of WTC7 taken with home video that has flashes and sounds of explosions. The video is clearly and provably fake.

1. It is reversed frame-by-frame. It could not be the other side of the building because that side was shrouded in smoke. I have here decomposed the video into jpg images, batch reversed them, and recomposed them into a video. How would home video footage become flipped in the first place? There may be some software that does this, but I don't know what it is. Why would any legitimate video be processed this way?
2. The pattern of window breakage does not match other videos. One pattern of broken windows under the east penthouse is clearly duplicated a few floors lower like a crude Photoshop copy. This is not seen in other videos.
3. In documented footage the east penthouse completely disappears before the west penthouse starts to disappear. In this video the west penthouse is completely gone while a corner of the east penthouse is still visible.
4. After the east penthouse falls, with the accompanying window breakage under it, there is a significant delay before the west penthouse falls. The windows under the west penthouse do not break until after collapse begins, yet in this video the window breakage, with flashes, occurs while a corner of the east penthouse is still visible.
5. And so forth. Someone put way too much effort into faking this video in comparison with how crude it is.


http://world911truth.org/fake-new-building-7-video/
FAKE New Building 7 Video

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Important points showing us this is a fake:
Video too short
No source to corroborate it
Blurry / Fuzzy / Jerky / Digitally zoomed
The poster took another Building 7 footage, edited and mirror-inverted it. (side-by-side comparison with original footage)
The audio explosion seems to be dubbed in, and the overall audio is of very poor quality.
Last but not least, the poster of the video even took time to add a “flying saucer” which can be seen at 0:15 and 0:30 in the video (on top of the building). This is subtle and most people won’t see it while watching the video only a few times. But it’s there.
This Building 7 video is a fake and spreading it as suggested in the video is a bad idea.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Video of WTC 5 on fire

WORLD TRADE CENTER NEVER SEEN BEFORE


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New images of the attack of the World Trade Center

Do not forget the innocent victims

Do not forget the heroes who sacrificed their lives to save the life of the others


Images inédites de l'attentat du World Trade Center

N'oubliez pas les victimes innocentes

N'oubliez pas les héros qui ont sacrifiés leur vies pour sauver la vie des autres

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chris Mohr argues 9/11 attacks were not controlled demolitions. This in-depth feature by Jeremy R Hammond demolishes his rhetoric piece by piece


http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/09/16/911-and-skeptic-magazin es-science-of-controlled-demolitions/

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

new vid

CBS reporter suggests explosives in Twin Towers Freedom of Information Act video



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Footage obtained by Freedom of Information Act where the reporter strongly suggests explosives were in the towers. Please note that only 30 minutes after the filming of WTC7 in this video it collapsed. Please watch 8:50

Reuploaded from americanbandwidth's channel-
http://www.youtube.com/user/americanbandwidth

Their video was released on 9th September 2011 and only has 44 views as of today 16th September ???


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Freedom of information act released footage from CBS on the Sept. 11, 2001.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I can tell this article (in Danish)

http://verdenversion2.dk/nyside/index.php/911-nyheder/89-911-videnskab  /479-ny-banebrydende-opdagelse-bekraefter-fundet-af-nanothermit-i-wor ld-trade-center-stovet.html

and translated here

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fverdenversion2.dk %2Fnyside%2Findex.php%2F911-nyheder%2F89-911-videnskab%2F479-ny-banebr ydende-opdagelse-bekraefter-fundet-af-nanothermit-i-world-trade-center -stovet.html&sl=da&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

...confirms the existence of nano-composite materials (carbon nanotubes) in the GZ dust (which do not occur naturally) and Kevin Ryan has confirmed that the nanotubes are by-products of a thermitic reaction of nanothermite.

This is independent corroboration of Harrit, Jones et al (2009) paper

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good riddance to tortuous BBC series 'Spooks'.
Watching first ever episode of 'The Man From UNCLE' (1964)
Thermite is used and discussed by Napoleon Solo in the opening scene Wink


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ta Disco - I'm learing also that Thermite is one of the bog standard bits of kit in the UNCLE 'utility belt'.
Used episode after episode for escapes etc.
I'm watching series 2 now.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is a sworn affadavit from a guy who has more credentials than anyone else.
Mass murderers are running the world, wake up call to those still asleep!

http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/12_Global/120323.Bill.Lear.affad avit.pdf



Apologies Tony and mods (I don't know where else to post it)

Just for a warning that this may be doing the rounds and it looks like IMHO.

No planes, as per Andrew Johnson and Justin Walker as a UK Column member just posted it on a freeman site.
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Here is a sworn affadavit from a guy who has more credentials than anyone else.
Mass murderers are running the world, wake up call to those still asleep!

http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/12_Global/120323.Bill.Lear.affad avit.pdf



Apologies Tony and mods (I don't know where else to post it)

Just for a warning that this may be doing the rounds and it looks like IMHO.

No planes, as per Andrew Johnson and Justin Walker as a UK Column member just posted it on a freeman site.


Hi Andrew, I suggest another thread for "No Plane Theory and Video Fakery" - this info is not actually related to nanothermite materials found at Ground Zero.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ye good point and suggestion, but its choca block in here with decent info and I though it would be best for Tony and mods to decide how they arrange it. Even if its deleted when its read as news, its not good info, just a bulletin point.
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http://911review.com/articles/ryan/nist_thermite_connection.html

The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites
KEVIN R. RYAN
July 2, 2008

Though it's 3 years old, I haven't seen this info before:

1. NIST was working with LLNL to test and characterize these sol-gel nano-thermites, at least as early as 1999 (Tillotson et al 1999).

2. Forman Williams, the lead engineer on NIST’s advisory committee, and the most prominent engineering expert for Popular Mechanics, is an expert on the deflagration of energetic materials and the “ignition of porous energetic materials” (Margolis and Williams 1996, Telengator et al 1998, Margolis and Williams 1999). Nano-thermites are porous energetic materials. Additionally, Williams’ research partner, Stephen Margolis, has presented at conferences where nano-energetics are the focus (Gordon 1999). Some of Williams’ other colleagues at the University of California San Diego, like David J. Benson, are also experts on nano-thermite materials (Choi et al 2005, Jordan et al 2007).

3. Science Applications International (SAIC) is the DOD and Homeland Security contractor that supplied the largest contingent of non-governmental investigators to the NIST WTC investigation. SAIC has extensive links to nano-thermites, developing and judging nano-thermite research proposals for the military and other military contractors, and developing and formulating nano-thermites directly (Army 2008, DOD 2007). SAIC’s subsidiary Applied Ordnance Technology has done research on the ignition of nanothermites with lasers (Howard et al 2005).

In an interesting coincidence, SAIC was the firm that investigated the 1993 WTC bombing, boasting that -- “After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, our blast analyses produced tangible results that helped identify those responsible (SAIC 2004).” And the coincidences with this company don’t stop there, as SAIC was responsible for evaluating the WTC for terrorism risks in 1986 as well (CRHC 2008). SAIC is also linked to the late 1990s security upgrades at the WTC, the Rudy Giuliani administration, and the anthrax incidents after 9/11, through former employees Jerome Hauer and Steven Hatfill.

4. Arden Bement, the metallurgist and expert on fuels and materials who was nominated as director of NIST by President George W. Bush in October 2001, was former deputy secretary of defense, former director of DARPA’s office of materials science, and former executive at TRW.

Of course, DOD and DARPA are both leaders in the production and use of nano-thermites (Amptiac 2002, DOD 2005). And military and aerospace contractor TRW has had a long collaboration with NASA laboratories in the development of energetic materials that are components of advanced propellants, like nano-gelled explosive materials (NASA 2001). TRW Aeronautics also made fireproof composites and high performance elastomer formulations, and worked with NASA to make energetic aerogels.

Additionally, Bement was a professor at Purdue and MIT. Purdue has a thriving program for nano-thermites (Son 2008). And interestingly, at MIT’s Institute for Soldier Nanotechnology, we find Martin Z. Bazant, son of notable “conspiracy debunker” Zdenek P. Bazant (MIT 2008), who does research on granular flows, and the electrochemical interactions of silicon. Zdenek P. Bazant is interested in nanocomposites as well (Northwestern 2008), and how they relate to naval warfare (ONR 2008). MIT was represented at nano-energetics conferences as early as 1998 (Gordon 1998).

Bement was also a director at both Battelle and the Lord Corporation. Battelle (where the anthrax was made) is an organization of “experts in fundamental technologies from the five National Laboratories we manage or co-manage for the US DOE.” Battelle advertises their specialization in nanocomposite coatings (Battelle 2008). The Lord Corporation also makes high-tech coatings for military applications (Lord 2008). In 1999, Lord Corp was working with the Army and NASA on “advanced polymer composites, advanced metals, and multifunctional materials” (Army 1999).

5. Hratch Semerjian, long-time director of NIST’s chemical division, was promoted to acting director of NIST in November 2004, and took over the WTC investigation until the completion of the report on the towers. Semerjian is closely linked to former NIST employee Michael Zachariah, perhaps the world’s most prominent expert on nano-thermites (Zachariah 2008). In fact, Semerjian and Zachariah co-authored ten papers that focus on nano-particles made of silica, ceramics and refractory particles. Zachariah was a major player in the Defense University Research Initiative on Nanotechnology (DURINT), a groundbreaking research effort for nano-thermites.

6. NIST has a long-standing partnership with NASA for the development of new nano-thermites and other nano-technological materials. In fact, Michael Zachariah coordinates this partnership (CNMM 2008).

7. In 2003, two years before the NIST WTC report was issued, the University of Maryland College Park (UMCP) and NIST signed a memorandum of understanding to develop nano-technologies like nano-thermites (NIST 2003). Together, NIST and UMCP have done much work on nano-thermites (NM2 2008).

8. NIST has their own Center for Nanoscale Science and Technology (CNST 2008). Additionally, NIST’s Reactive Flows Group did research on nanostructured materials and high temperature reactions in the mid-nineties (NRFG 1996).

9. Richard Gann, who did the final editing of the NIST WTC report, managed a project called “Next-Generation Fire Suppression Technology Program”, both before and after 9/11. Andrzej Miziolek, another of the world’s leading experts on nano-thermites (Amptiac 2002), is the author of “Defense Applications of Nanomaterials”, and also worked on Richard Gann’s fire suppression project (Gann 2002). Gann’s project was sponsored by DOD’s Strategic Environmental Research and Development Program (SERDP), an organization that sponsored a number of LLNL’s nano-thermite projects (Simpson 2002, Gash et al 2003).

10. As part of the Federal Laboratory Consortium for Technology Transfer, NIST partners with the Naval Surface Warfare Center at Indian Head (NSWC-IH) on Chemical Science and Technology (FLCTT 2008). NSWC-IH is probably the most prominent US center for nano-thermite technology (NSWC 2008). In 1999, Jan Puszynski, a scientist working for the DURINT program, helped NSWC-IH design a pilot plant to produce nano-size aluminum powder. It was reported that “At that time, this was [the] only reliable source of aluminum nanopowders in the United States” (SDSMT 2001), however, private companies like Argonide and Technanogy were also known to have such capabilities.

Among an interesting group of contractors that NSWC-IH hired in 1999 were SAIC, Applied Ordnance, Battelle, Booz Allen Hamilton, Mantech, Titan, Pacific Scientific Energetic (see below), and R Stresau Laboratories for “demolition materials” (NSWC 2000).

A tragic coincidence left William Caswell, an employee of NSWC-IH, dead on the plane said to have hit the Pentagon (Flight 77). He had for many years worked on “deep-black” projects at NSWC-IH (Leaf 2007).


(I suggest you go to the link above, as there is more info on this in the complete article-outsider).

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

9/11: WTC Eyewitness Explosion In The South Tower Lobby


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Two eyewitnesses discuss their experience on 11th September 2001 at The World Trade Center in New York.
WTC Eyewitness " a bomb went off in the lobby first,then a plane hit"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCc9PuQA9b4&feature=watch_response

9/11 WTC Eyewitness heard explosion before WTC2 collapsed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSIT8zKVDmg

9/11 Eyewitness- "Flames exploded out the front of the World Trade Center"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VoFVl9RSpk&feature=related

9/11 Eyewitness Nina Pineda -"From that last explosion it is now again dark"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNym5VZ98KE

911 Eyewitness Nina Pineda - "ground shook/booming sound".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b59rAkvjMfY

911 Eyewitness ABC7 Nina Pineda - "Firebombs And Explosions."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9zGcpyoDmg

9/11 WTC Eyewitness - Philip Morelli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgyeDF37jUI

9/11 : WB11 News - Eyewitness report.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IKTz1KAJfM

9/11 :NIST FOIA - Eyewitness Paul Lemos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPFyO3JvFlQ

9/11 WTC NIST FOIA "A Big Explosion Has Just Occurred" .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCTjhE6zJuk

WTC Eyewitness " a bomb went off in the lobby first,then a plane hit"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCc9PuQA9b4

9/11 WTC Eyewitness heard explosion before WTC2 collapsed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSIT8zKVDmg

9/11 : WTC Eyewitness heard "large boom" before the collapse of WTC2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo6WH8o6qmU

9/11 WTC - NYPD Cop "numerous secondary explosions" in WTC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWq0HEBInLE

9/11 WTC CNN:"When The First Tower Collapsed It Was A Massive Explosion"Patty Sabga
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAcxfSExyJk

9/11: WTC Eyewitness Explosion In The South Tower Lobby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e0kNFImu88

9/11 :WTC Eyewitness describes explosions ( see video description) NIST F.O.I.A.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArNQF-cONhA

9/11 WTC Eyewitness Greg Cherry..NIST F.O.I.A.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ZomqWrnnM

9/11 : WTC Eyewitness Jeremy Fox, WB11 "Explosion"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9_rdfz-jZU

911: Live Chopper2 Eyewitness Secondary Explosion In WTC2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPq3Vyqz_xs

9/11 WTC Eyewitness Tony Ciarnella..NIST F.O.I.A.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bz2kP_OhWE

9/11 : FireFighters describe 3 Explosions After Plane Hit WTC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Tb8gSGQ10

9/11 WTC Eyewitness on 9/11/2001
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIADXlWcGP0

9/11 WTC Eyewitness Joe Torres. WABC-NY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv-6eVrPd2w

9/11 Eyewitness Steven Evans BBC 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UlJVibz7Dg

9/11 Eyewitness Stephen Evans interview on phone live on BBC,9/11/2001.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO0OPVQsx5s

9/11 Eyewitness,WABC interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozSWcHH3HAo

9/11 eyewitness Robert Knowles,54th floor WTC1, on NBC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjCFX9rlKmU

9/11 WTC Eyewitness Marlene Cruz describes basement explosions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z51vqH6VZL4

9/11 Eyewitness to molten metal David Long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2VWhSVySeg

911 WTC EYEWITNESSES BASEMENT AND LOBBY EXPLOSIONS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAJa8eu-6_g

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Evidence for plane impact... as well as secondary explosions

Shame we don't have those people's names. I wonder how their health is now. They've inhaled quite a bit of the dust!


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Evidence for plane impact... as well as secondary explosions

Shame we don't have those people's names. I wonder how their health is now. They've inhaled quite a bit of the dust!


Pretty slim evidence for 'plane impact' - 'we saw a shadow, looked like a plane, then there was this explosion'.

I believe most so-called 'no-planers' believe, as I do, that some aerial flying machines hit the Towers; what I, and I believe most, of the so-called 'no-planers' just don't believe is that it was the passenger-laden Boeings of the 'Official Conspiracy Theory'.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pretty slim evidence for 'plane impact' - 'we saw a shadow, looked like a plane, then there was this explosion'.

I believe most so-called 'no-planers' believe, as I do, that some aerial flying machines hit the Towers; what I, and I believe most, of the so-called 'no-planers' just don't believe is that it was the passenger-laden Boeings of the 'Official Conspiracy Theory'.


Yes, slim. I've no problem with any "changed plane" theory (as suggested by the Northwoods Plan) - the "No Planer" meme is just another divisive argument, probably helped along by agent provocateurs. Obviously without a plane crash investigation we are into speculation. I'm just keen to stop the hologram/DEW/nuke arguments being raised. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Watching first ever episode of 'The Man From UNCLE' (1964)
Thermite is used and discussed by Napoleon Solo in the opening scene Wink


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That's the game. Burn the place down for the insurance. They're just fixing the flames to reach the lobby building, sprinkling thermite dust along the covered way... They've used thermite bombs in each of the cabins. Better than petrol. Less bulky and they leave no traces for the insurance sleuths.
- James Bond in The Spy Who Loved Me by Ian Fleming, 1962

The link here is Ian Fleming that not only wrote the book but helped with early concepts for the "The Man From UNCLE"... when he wasn't writing about James Bond, he was writing about children snatchers in Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang. Hmm
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good article here in established digital news site.

"New 9/11 doc - Gov admits it hasn’t explained WTC collapses" by Victoria N. Alexander, PhD

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/326622

Only 9 comments, so far. All but one positive.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject: Unreacted thermite explosives found in WTC debris Reply with quote

I’m new here and this is my first post. I have just read this excellent article, and it seems that the government now realise that people are close to bringing the truth out, so they are preparing to use what has been found to explain the towers coming down but at the same time continuing to blame Muslims, inferring that more terrorists must have planted bombs in the towers. This is obviously a lot more complicated than what it sounds, they will come out with statements claiming they could not say anything before as it was an on going investigation and it would have been a breach of security to have informed the public. New unheard of before “terrorists” will come out of the woodwork to fill in the gaps, and miraculously these men will all have been dealt with. This is the only way the government can go due to the number of experts now speaking out against their official story they can no longer continue to ignore so many people.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Unreacted thermite explosives found in WTC debris Reply with quote

Michaeld wrote:
I’m new here and this is my first post. I have just read this excellent article, and it seems that the government now realise that people are close to bringing the truth out, so they are preparing to use what has been found to explain the towers coming down but at the same time continuing to blame Muslims, inferring that more terrorists must have planted bombs in the towers. This is obviously a lot more complicated than what it sounds, they will come out with statements claiming they could not say anything before as it was an on going investigation and it would have been a breach of security to have informed the public. New unheard of before “terrorists” will come out of the woodwork to fill in the gaps, and miraculously these men will all have been dealt with. This is the only way the government can go due to the number of experts now speaking out against their official story they can no longer continue to ignore so many people.


Quote: "it seems that the government now realise that people are close to bringing the truth out, so they are preparing to use what has been found to explain the towers coming down but at the same time continuing to blame Muslims, inferring that more terrorists must have planted bombs in the towers".

What you have described, has already happened.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must See Video!!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Must See Video!!


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A lot of music and pictures of ancient bedrock does not prove nuclear explosions.

- The smallest known atomic weapon would devastate lower Manhattan - not just bring down 2 towers
- Radioactivity would be detected for thousands of years
- The paper trail associate with nuclear weapons means that unless you have one Cameron's missing nukes you'd be able to trace it
- Nuclear weapons have never been used for demolition - it would unlikely to be agreed by risk-adverse planners of the PysOp
- It doesn't explain the weakening phase of the towers
- Since you'd need two (three?) underground nuclear weapons to bring down 1, 2 and 7 - it would be impossible to mask the devastation of the first blast interfering with the 2nd (and 3rd) underground bombs.
- This "theory" seems to be promoted by disinfo experts
- It's probably not a suitable subject for this thread on thermite material found in the GZ dust
- thermite-powered thermobaric weapons would address all the known materials found in the dust and capable of blowing up the towers - no nukes required.
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Sabrewolf wrote:
Must See Video!!


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A lot of music and pictures of ancient bedrock does not prove nuclear explosions.

- The smallest known atomic weapon would devastate lower Manhattan - not just bring down 2 towers
- Radioactivity would be detected for thousands of years
- The paper trail associate with nuclear weapons means that unless you have one Cameron's missing nukes you'd be able to trace it
- Nuclear weapons have never been used for demolition - it would unlikely to be agreed by risk-adverse planners of the PysOp
- It doesn't explain the weakening phase of the towers
- Since you'd need two (three?) underground nuclear weapons to bring down 1, 2 and 7 - it would be impossible to mask the devastation of the first blast interfering with the 2nd (and 3rd) underground bombs.
- This "theory" seems to be promoted by disinfo experts
- It's probably not a suitable subject for this thread on thermite material found in the GZ dust
- thermite-powered thermobaric weapons would address all the known materials found in the dust and capable of blowing up the towers - no nukes required.


You bring up some interesting points, however to imply that there was "No Nukes Required" to bring down the WTC Towers is absurd.

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=8636&sid=0952acb81a8f 224471968eb96afaf26d

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You bring up some interesting points, however to imply that there was "No Nukes Required" to bring down the WTC Towers is absurd.

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=8636&sid=0952acb81a8f 224471968eb96afaf26d


Absurd? Crying or Very sad

That's not playing nice.

I made the point that it cannot be nukes for the above stated reasons. And you just point me to a thread where I can't see a clear reason why I should have to image a "mini-nuke". Within this thread there is plenty of evidence of nanomaterials being used for explosives. It's use is known and there is a whole industry using this technology in USA and around the world. There is no need for an imaginary (unproven) weapon. Why is that "absurd"?
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Suppressed Firefighter's Spliced Full Interview - CBS News raw footage


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These men are some of NYC's best and they are true heroes. They are trained to recognize secondary explosions. They are not guessing here, they confidently know. And all three are telling you, that these were secondary explosions. And at least, one firefighter expects more explosions, that have nothing to do with the plane impacts.. The other two do not disagree.

Why, has this interview been suppressed from the public eye for over nine years now? I can only guess, and I won't do that here. And there are tons of more clips, suppressed just like this one and many are now available for view here on YouTube.

Don't be confused by the attacking NIST-reciting 'parrots' attempting to provide 'damage control' for NIST, by confusing you. And don't be confused by some of those crazy "Conspiracy Theories" here on YouTube.

Some compartment(s) of the federal government confiscated all video coverage from all NYC's major news networks and the abundant video from anxious private citizens that turned their video in, to help this investigation. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) held the video in its possession and then allowed news networks to air what a few people at NIST felt appropriate. Much of this is doctored.

IC911studies had to sue the government on behalf of '9/11 Surviving Family Members', to obtain the suppressed video. The suit was under the "Freedom of Information Act" law. The Surviving Family Members are not satisfied with the answers that they were given by our government. This footage is also known FOIA



Was our news media and Congress coerced? "The anthrax attacks came in two waves. The first set of anthrax letters had a Trenton, New Jersey postmark dated September 18, 2001. Five letters are believed to have been mailed at this time to: ABC News, CBS News, NBC News and the New York Post, all located in New York City and to the National Enquirer at American Media, Inc. (AMI) in Boca Raton, Florida": quoted from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.historycommons.org% 2Ftimeline.jsp%3Ftimeline%3Danthraxattacks%26anthraxattacks_other%3Dan thraxattacks_patriot_act&session_token=mS0Zq93Ssj4T09KhgvobRkhpAYZ8MTM 0MzQzNzA5MEAxMzQzMzUwNjkw

Then, there's our two Senators: Patrick Leahy and Tom Daschle, who survived the anthrax attacks. Thank you, Mr. Leahy and Daschle, we know that anthrax was not your first warning to back away from 9/11 questioning and to stop preventing "The Patriot Act".
http://www.ae911truth.org/
Please sign their petitions, we need some testimony under oath without Federal interference.

Were the New York Firefighters later told not to tell their stories? If they did talk, would they lose their jobs or worse? Many did tell their stories, regardless, and their stories can be found at: http://firefightersfor911truth.org. These are true patriots and they have some alarming stories to tell you. Not to take away anything from the heroic firefighters who chose to continue protecting New Yorkers from fires. This is a very revealing video of what firefighters were feeling, and experiencing that day. Maybe now that this is out, more firefighters might come forward and help save our beloved country.

Was our news media and Congress coerced? "The anthrax attacks came in two waves. The first set of anthrax letters had a Trenton, New Jersey postmark dated September 18, 2001. Five letters are believed to have been mailed at this time to: ABC News, CBS News, NBC News and the New York Post, all located in New York City and to the National Enquirer at American Media, Inc. (AMI) in Boca Raton, Florida": quoted from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.historycommons.org% 2Ftimeline.jsp%3Ftimeline%3Danthraxattacks%26anthraxattacks_other%3Dan thraxattacks_patriot_act&session_token=mS0Zq93Ssj4T09KhgvobRkhpAYZ8MTM 0MzQzNzA5MEAxMzQzMzUwNjkw

Then, there's our two Senators: Patrick Leahy and Tom Daschle, who survived the anthrax attacks. Thank you, Mr. Leahy and Daschle, we know that anthrax was not your first warning to back away from 9/11 questioning and to stop preventing "The Patriot Act".

Please take a look at what happened to Senator Mark Dayton-911. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOqKMhbByfY

Was the non-working radio that Jimmy Grillo was banging in this video one of those famous alleged "Giuliani Scandal Radio's", please watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I&feature=related
It is said that, those radios cost at least 121 firefighters their lives, that horrible day.

New Yorkers can all do something by going to: http://www.buildingwhat.org/
Everyone can learn by going to Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth http://www.ae911truth.org/
Please sign their petitions, we need some testimony under oath without Federal interference.

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9/11 Survivor Eyewitness Paul Lemos Says Bombs Exploded North Tower


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4AcOsaz0LI

A man clearly states he witnessed the building come straight down as a result of bombs/explosions/flashes popping BELOW the impact zone. A so-called expert tried telling him he didn't see or hear any such things.

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