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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The post on the Freddie Mercury / Project Mercury / Mercury Rising / Red Mercury hoax has been updated with new information.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saddam Hussein and Lemmy the "Ace of Spades"


Strange brew, I know, but ....


See also: Bush-43: Mission Accomplished on 1.5.2003


Saddam Hussein, aka "The Ace of Spades" was belatedly revealed to have been captured in Iraq, allegedly hiding in a hole in the ground, on 13.12.2003


This particular, Ace In The Hole, came in quite handy as his "good news" capture, buried the "bad news" of H.R. 2417, INTELLIGENCE AUTHORIZATION AGREEMENT OF 2004, Patriot Act II being signed by Bush on the same day.



From the alleged assassination plot of Bush-41 on 13.4.1993 to the capture of Saddam "Ace In The Hole" Hussein on 13.12.2003 is:


= 128 months

= 8x8 + 8x8 months > 88 88

and / or:

= 8+8 x 8 > 888


it is also:


= 487 weeks, 487 days


487 = Prime(93) or simply P(93)


= P(93) weeks, P(93) days

93 = 3 x 31 = P11 > P( 3 x P11 ) weeks, P( 3 x P11 ) days > 311 311


Also: 31 = 17 + 7 + 7 = P7+7+7

So, P(93) weeks, P(93) days can be expressed thus:

P7+7+7 + P7+7+7 + P7+7+7 weeks, P7+7+7 + P7+7+7 + P7+7+7 days

> 777 777 777 777 777 777




93 is also:


93 = 59 + 34 and 59 = Prime(17) and 17 = Prime(7) - So: 59 = Prime(P7) or simply, PP7

and 34 = 2 x 17 = 2 x P7

So, = P(93) weeks, P(93) days can be expressed as:

= P( PP7 + P7 + P7 ) weeks, P( PP7 + P7 + P7 ) days > 777 777





The days signature is:

= 3896 days

= P( 77x7 ) + 7 days > 7777




So what is the connection with Motorhead and Lemmy ?


Motorhead's album, The Ace of Spades was released on 8.11.1980


From Motorhead's album, The Ace of Spades released on 8.11.1980 to the date of the capture of Saddam "Ace of Spades" Hussein on 13.12.2003 is an interval of:


= 119 + 119 months, 119 weeks, 119 + 119 + 119 days


= 7 x P7 + 7 x P7 m, 7 x P7 w, 7 x P7 + 7 x P7 + 7 x P7 d > 77 77 77 77 77 77

*


Statistics for the number of different ways of specifying the date differences between 8.11.1980 and 13.12.2003 :


Normal date differences : 1,379,648 records

Interval date differences : 1,379,145 records

Inclusive date differences : 1,380,113 records

Total date difference specifications : 4,138,906

*



But, maybe the real connection here is to Poppy Bush, exacting revenge on Saddam ...

Global Gangster and arch terrorist, G H W "Poppy" Bush was elected POTUS on 8.11.1988 and was inaugurated on 20.1.1989

Elected precisely 8 years to the day since Lemmy's Ace of Spades was released.

8 years = 96 months = 88+8 months > 888

96 is also 89 +7 and 89 = Prime(24) or P( 17 + 7 ) or P( P7 + 7)

96 months = P( P7 +7 ) + 7 > 777

*

From the release of Lemmy's Ace of Spades on 8.11.1980 to Poppy's inauguration on 20.1.1989 is:

= 7 years, 7 weeks, 389 days

7 years = 77+7 months

389 = Prime(77) or P77

= 77+7 months, 7 weeks, P77 days > 777 777

*

And finally, the clincher ...

From GHW Bush taking the POTUS throne on 20.1.1989 to the capture of Saddam "Ace In The Hole" Hussein on 13.12.2003 is an INTERVAL of:

= 777 weeks

= 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 days



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stockholm - 11 December 2010


The radicalising tweet from "Sweden's number one Bilderberger", Carl Bildt, that signalled whatever happened in Stockholm as "terrorism" ...

Quote:


(http://twitter.com/#!/carlbildt/status/13731205434318848)

Most worrying attempt at terrorist attack in crowded part of central Stockholm. Failed - but could have been truly catastrophic..

11 Dec 10 via Twitter for iPad



Wikipedia: 2010 Stockholm bombings


Original 9/11 forum thread: Swedish military forewarned of Stockholm Car Bomb

Quote:
A Swedish Armed Forces (Försvarsmakten) employee warned an acquaintance to stay clear of an area in central Stockholm on Saturday where, several hours later, two explosions went off in what is being called a terrorist attack.



Quote:
Wikipedia

Tidningarnas Telegrambyrå reported that a member of the Swedish Armed Forces warned an acquaintance to keep away from Drottninggatan several hours ahead of the bombings.[24]

The message read, "If you can, avoid Drottninggatan today. A lot can happen there...just so you know."[25]

The Swedish Armed Forces denied having any prior knowledge of the attack but promised to investigate the matter further.[26] The Security Service launched an independent investigation.[27] Later, the newspaper Expressen reported that several sources with insight in the investigation claimed a second government employee had information about the bombing ahead of time.[28]


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Magnus Ranstorp - a former director of the RAND / St Andrews "terrorology" nexus at Bruce Hoffman and Paul Wilkinson's CSTPV.

The very same Magnus Ranstorp who was CNN's source for the 9/11 paymaster "story" featuring Omar Saeed Sheikh.


Quote:
http://swedenisrael.blogspot.com/2010/12/first-suicide-bomber-attack-i n-sweden.html

Sweden Israel and the Jews

Reporting current affairs concerning Sweden, Israel and the Jews, making underreported issues available for the non-Swedish speaking world.

...

Yet, according to Magnus Ranstorp, Sweden’s leading terrorist expert and professor at the Defense College in Stockholm, the trips made to London and Jordan seem to point towards a distinct possibility that the man was not alone in planning the act. This belief is further strengthened by the advanced pipe bombs found at the scene and the intended dual explosion. Multiple explosions have been carried out in the past, one example being the notorious Palestinian attack in Jerusalem’s Zion Square in 2001 which killed more than a dozen people and left many more maimed and injured, including rescue personnel.



The 2001 suicide bombing in Jerusalem referred to above, took place on Ben Yehuda Street, Jerusalem on 1.12.2001

= 9 years and 11 days prior.




I wonder why Magnus Ranstorp chose that particular event, in downtown Jerusalem - out of all of the other possible events he could have compared it to. Quite a lot of people were injured there too, apparently, - 188 according to whoever edits Wikipedia.

Curioser and curioser ....


*

Quote:
Email threat

About ten minutes before the explosions, a threatening email was sent to the Swedish Security Service and the Swedish news agency Tidningarnas Telegrambyrå (TT). The letter referred in particular to the presence of Swedish troops in Afghanistan and the Swedish artist Lars Vilks' drawings of the Islamic prophet Muhammad as a roundabout dog.



From the publication of Lars Vilks' cartoons in the Swedish newspaper Nerikes Allehanda on 18.8.2007 to the Stockholm event on 11.12.2010 is an interval of :

= 1210 days


1210 = 777 + 433 and 433 = Prime(84) or P(84)


= 777 + P( 77+7 ) days > 777 777


* See here for other 1210 and 1012 events.


*


From the publication of Kurt Westergaard's cartoons in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten on 30.9.2005 to the Stockholm event on 11.12.2010 is an interval of:


= 263 weeks, 56 days


263 = Prime(56)


= P(56) weeks, 56 days


= P( 7x7+7 ) weeks, 7x7+7 days > 777


it is also an interval of :


= 84 weeks, 1309 days


1309 = 77 x 17 = 77 x P7


= 77 + 7 w, 77 x P7 d > 777



Quote:
Wikipedia: Kurt Westergaard

2010 attack

On 1 January 2010, a 28-year-old Somali Muslim intruder armed with an axe and knife entered Westergaard's house and was subsequently shot and wounded by police.



From the Kurt Westergaard event on 1.1.2010 to the Stockholm event on 11.12.2010 is an interval of:


= 343 days


= 7x7x7 days


*


From 9/11 on 11.9.2001 to the Stockholm event on 11.12.2010 is:


= 253 weeks, 1607 days


1607 = Prime(253) or P(253)


= 253 weeks, P(253) days


253 = 11 x 23 = 11 x P9


= 11 x P9 weeks, P( 11 x P9 ) days > 119 119 > 77 77


*


From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to the Stockholm event on 11.12.201 inclusive is:


= 653 weeks, 653 days


653 = Prime(119) or P(119)


= P(119) weeks, P(119) days


= P( 7 x P7 ) w, P( 7 x P7 ) d, > 77 77


*


OBL Video - Your Freedom is in your hands - 29 October 2004

On 29 October 2004, CNN reported that Al Jazeera had, allegedly, broadcast a new video message, reportedly from Osama Bin Laden, who died years before, referred to as "Your freedom is in your hands", in which CNN reports that Sweden is mentioned as not deserving of an attack:

Quote:

CNN reports:

"Contrary to what Bush says and claims -- that we hate freedom --let him tell us then, "Why did we not attack Sweden?"




From CNN's mention of Sweden on 29.10.2004 to the Stockholm event on 11.12.2010 is:

= 198 weeks, 1213 days


1213 = Prime(198) > numberplanet.com is offline in the evenings


= 198 weeks, P(198) days


= 11x9 + 11x9 weeks, P(11x9 + 11x9) days > 119 119 119 119



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For other 253 = 11 x 23 = 11xP9 > 119 motifs see:

UFAM aboard Flight (11xP9) on 25.12.2009 > 119

and

9/11 = 253 days = 11 x P9 days into PNAC's New American Century. > 119


Note also: 18.8 is a "seven seven" date also. 7 months and P7 days from the start of the year and the 136th day before the end of the year. 136 = P7 x 7 + P7 > 777


and 188 = 2 x 94 = 77+P7 + 77+P7 > 777 777 which explains why it "pops up" so often ...



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I'll let the Swedish / Israeli blogger have the last word:



Quote:

http://swedenisrael.blogspot.com/2010/12/first-suicide-bomber-attack-i n-sweden.html

Now more than ever, it is time for Sweden to wake up and realize that Sweden is not safe from the terrorist phenomenon which plagues the world today. In fact, no country which harbors a large unassimilated Muslim population is immune from these attacks.

Hopefully, as a result of this failed terror attack Swedish leaders who have been in denial will now see the threat and react appropriately. It’s time to take active steps towards halting Swedish governmental financial support for terror-linked organizations, and to stop providing a safe haven for terrorists in Sweden.




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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Operation Guava - UK Landmarks Plot arrests - 20.12.2010


Original 911forum thread: Op Guava 12 arrests in Stoke, Birmingham, Cardiff & London

Updated post is here.


Quote:
Christmas "terror plot" targetted London landmarks

...

The alleged plan also included a series of parcel bombs to be constructed based on instructions printed in an Al-Qaeda newsletter.

...

Last week's raids came after several months of surveillance and monitoring by police and MI5 officers.


That'll be the alleged Al Q glossy on-line mag., Inspire


Quote:
West Midlands PA on WMCTU.

Operation Guava:

Operation Guava was a terrorist investigation led by WMCTU into the activities of a number of individuals who were suspected of planning to carry out a terrorist attack in the run up to Christmas 2010. Twelve individuals were arrested under the terrorism act, of whom nine were subsequently changed with conspiring to cause explosions and Section 5 of the Terrorism Act 2006 as well as additional charges under Section 58 of the terrorism Act for some of the group. This investigation is scheduled for trial in 2012.



A reprise of the 1993 New York Landmarks plot ?


For detailed information on the New York Landmarks Wikipedia edits and the 4th July 1993 see here


From the alleged target date of the 1993 New York Landmarks plot on 4.7.1993 to the arrests in the UK Landmarks Plot on 22.12.2010 is an interval of:

= 911 weeks


From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to the UK Landmarks plot arrests on 20.12.2010 is:

= 14 years, 17 weeks

= 7+7 y, P7 w > 777



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Fatty Bin Laden fake confession video


See also: Alleged death of OBL

and: OBL's Declaration of Jihad and 9/11

and: OBL's Jihad, Bush-41 and the alleged "Confession Interview"

*

What is there to say about the "Fatty Bin Laden" video, that hasn't already been said.


Allegedly found, like so many other things, in a house in Afghanistan, on 9.11.2001 and revealed to the world on 13.12.2001


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to 9.11.2001 is:

= 325 weeks

= P(49) + 49 + 49 weeks

= P(7x7) + 7x7 + 7x7 weeks



From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to 9.11.2001 is :

= 119 + 119 weeks, 119 + 119 days



From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to 13.12.2001 is:

= 2309 days

2309 = Prime (343) days = P(343)

2309 = P( 7x7x7 ) days



From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to 13.12.2001 inclusive is :

= 1939 days or 277 weeks

1939 = 277 x7

277 = Prime(59) and 59 = Prime(17) and 17 = Prime(7) - So: 277 = P(P(P(7))) or simply, PPP7


= PPP7 x 7 days > 77



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Die Hard With A Vengeance Script as a Script

Film script is on-line : Die Hard: With A Vengeance film script.

I have no idea what "version" of the script this is as it contains errors and ommissions from the actual dialogue in the film.

See also DHWAV-UK as a bridge to Bush-41, the Madrid Peace Conference, Oslo Accords and a root date to other events.

and: The Madrid Peace Conference, the Oslo Accords, DHWAV-UK, 9/11, London 7/7 and Madrid 11/3


and DHWAV trivia here

I've just watched Die Hard: With A Vengeance for the first time and would recommend it to anyone who is interested in 9/11 and all that followed, if only for the plot line and it's relevance to this thread and because it was mentioned in the Operation Rhyme script.


Quote:

Fred Schiller: These people don't like to work anonymously. They want you to know who's doing it to you.



Quote:

Dick Cheney makes a cameo as an NYPD police official.

Source



Quote:

In the director commentary, director McTiernan states that future Vice President Dick Cheney makes an uncredited cameo in the film.

Source


The German villain, Simon Peter Gruber is playing "Simon says" with McClane the cop (Bruce Willis) to get revenge for McClane killing Simon's villain brother in the first film.

Gruber is described as a "pathological", "megalomaniacal personality" who cannot get over his brother being killed and who won't rest until he has exacted revenge. Ring any bells ....

Quote:
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said his "hard line against all terrorists" came as a result on the death of his brother. [9]

[9] Thomas, Gordon. Gideon's Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad, Macmillan (2009) p. 145

Wikipedia



The Jonathan Institute, named after his brother, was probably where all of this started.

Quote:

“a group of powerful elites from various countries gathered at an international conference in Jerusalem to promote and exploit the idea of ‘international terrorism.’ The (Jerusalem) conference (on International Terrorism, or JCIT) established the ideological foundations for the ‘war on terror.’ JCIT’s defining theme was that international terrorism constituted an organized political movement whose ultimate origin was in the Soviet Union. All terrorist groups were ultimately products of, and could be traced back to, this single source, which—according to the JCIT—provided financial, military, and logistical assistance to disparate terrorist movements around the globe. The mortal danger to Western security and democracy posed by the worldwide scope of this international terrorist movement required an appropriate worldwide anti-terrorism offensive, consisting of the mutual coordination of Western military intelligence services.” [29]

...

Among prominent individuals who participated were Menachem Begin, Benjamin Netanyahu, Shimon Peres, and George Bush Sr. (The aforementioned anti-détente, pro-Cold War group associated with the policies of Senator Henry Jackson are well known to be Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Elliot Abrams, Douglas Feith, Robert Kagan, Charles Horner, and James Woolsey, to name a few.) [31]

...

Importantly, Paull’s thesis includes the entire list of the JCIT participants, many of them intimately connected to the 1976 Team B assault on National Intelligence Estimates and to CPD. Participants from the United States at this conference, arranged by Benjamin Netanyahu and George Bush Sr., were neoconservative organizers Norman Podhoretz and his wife Midge Decter (CPD), Senator John Danforth, Professor Joseph Bishop, General George Keegan (Team B), Ray Cline (former CIA deputy director who had assisted with Operation Northwoods, and director of the Center for Strategic and International Studies), Jack Kemp (CPD), Lane Kirkland (CPD’s connection to the AFL-CIO), journalist George Will, nuclear physicist and staunch Cold War hawk Edward Teller, Richard Pipes (Team B, CPD), Bayard Rustin (CPD’s connection to the A. Philip Randolph Institute), Professor Thomas Schelling (RAND), Ben Wattenberg (CPD), Claire Sterling, and Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson. Participants also came from Britain, France, Italy, the Netherlands, West Germany, Canada, Ireland, and the largest contingency was comprised of Israeli military, government, and intelligence service personnel. The bulk of the international representatives not from Israel and the US were media propagandists long connected to covert operations.[32]

...
[29]. Nafeez Ahmed, The War on Truth (Northampton, MA: Olive Branch Press, 2005), p. 3.

[31]. All are members of the Project for the New American Century and are current or former Bush administration officials or advisors. Charles Horner, along with other PNAC members Daniel Pipes, Stephen Hadley, Kenneth Adelman, and Peter Rodman, and CPD members Kenneth Jensen, John Moore, and Robert Turner—as well as Caspar Weinberger and many other pro-interventionists—created and/or serve or have served on the board of the United States Institute of Peace. (Hadley, Pipes, and Adelman are also CPD members.) This compelled me to design an independent peace studies program, as USIP funds the majority of peace and conflict studies graduate programs in the US, and sends out annual surveys to its recipients.

[32]. Philip Paull, “International Terrorism”: The Propaganda War, San Francisco State University, California, June 1982. Other JCIT participants cited by Paull (info circa 1982): Canada—David Barrett (former premier of British Columbia); France—Professor Annie Kriegel (University of Paris, Nanterre), Jacques Soustelle (correspondent for l’Aurore, former governor of Algeria 1955-6, charged with subversion for attempted OAS coup 1962, 1962-8 in exile, author of La longue marche d’Israel 1968); Ireland—Frank Cluskey (Irish Labour Party); Israel—Professor Mordechai Abir, Major-General Meir Amit (Knesset member and business executive, former chief Mossad 1963-8, director Al Aman military intelligence 1961-3), Mordechai Ben-Ari (president El-Al Airlines 1967-77, former commanding officer Haganah 1948, active in Alliyah “B” Austria and Eastern Europe 1948-50), Asher Ben-Natan (special advisor to Ministry of Defense 1976-8, ambassador to France 1970-5 and West Germany 1965-9, director general of Ministry of Defense 1965 ), Vladmir Bukovsky (author and Soviet émigré), Ambassador Walter Eytan, Ambassador Michael Comay, Major-General Shlomo Gazit (director Al Aman military intelligence 1973-9, director Department of Military Intelligence and Coordinator of Activities in Occupied Territories 1967-74, Intelligence Branch IDF 1964-7), General Chaim Herzog (business executive and lawyer, permanent representative to the United Nations 1975-8, first governor of the West Bank 1967, director Al Aman military intelligence 1948-50 1959-62, chief Security Department of Jewish Agency 1947-8, media expert), Yitzak Navon (president of Israel 1978-[83], former chair Knesset Defense and Foreign Affairs Committee, chairman World Zionist Council 1973-8 ), Gideon Rafael (ambassador to United Kingdom 1973-8, senior political advisor to Foreign Ministry 1972-3, former United Nations ambassador, intelligence service Foreign Ministry), Brigadier-General Meir Shamgar (justice of the Supreme Court 1975-[95], military advocate general and legal advisor to Ministry of Defense 1968-75), Major-General Aharon Yariv (director Center for Strategic Studies Tel-Aviv University 1977-?, minister of information 1974-5, special advisior to prime minister 1972-3, director Al Aman military intelligence); Italy—Manlio Brosio (former secretary general NATO), Piero Luigi Vigna (attorney general Florence); Netherlands—Harry Van Den Bergh (member of parliament), Edward Van Theyjn (deputy leader Socialist Party), Joop Den Uyl (prime minister 1973-77); United Kingdom—Lord Chalfont (Arthur Gwynne Jones, director IBM-UK 1973, foreign editor New Statesman 1970-1, minister of state Foreign Commonwealth Office 1964-70, British Army staff and intelligence appointments 1940-61, Russian expert), Brian R. Crozier (cofounder and director Institute for the Study of Conflict 1970-?, chairman Forum World Features 1965-74, editor Conflict Studies 1970-5, former publisher Economist Foreign Report, correspondent for National Review), Michael Elkins (BBC correspondent, Israel), Rt. Hon. Hugh Fraser (conservative MP, minister of defense for RAF 1964, Special Air Service World War II), Paul B. Johnson (journalist and broadcaster, New Statesman 1955-70, author of Enemies of Society 1977), Robert Moss (coauthor of The Spike 1980, former editor of confidential Economist Foreign Report, author of new book Death Beam […“this spy-vs-spy thriller reveals how an unknowing world reaches the brink of total war ‘when the Soviets perfect an incomparably powerful death beam…and point it at the United States’”--PP], now with Heritage Foundation), Rt. Hon. Merlyn Rees (home secretary 1976-9, secretary of state for Northern Ireland 1974-6, undersecretary Ministry of Defense 1965-8 ); West Germany—Eric Blumenfeld (member of Bundestag), Hans Joseph Horchem (Hamburg Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution), Gerard Loewenthal (journalist). Use Google.com for comprehensive up-to-date information on all names in these notes and this paper. Grateful acknowledgment to James Zogby and the Arab American Institute for promptly sending Paull’s thesis.

Source


See also: "Fear! Fear!": Birth of the War on Terror




Ah, the good old days of CPD's Soviet "death beam" - too many radicalising comics by far...


Back to the film:

"Simon" says, this and that must happen or else bombs will go off for "non-compliance", but it's all cover for a massive gold heist at the New York Federal reserve bank.

Bombs on the tube train, bombs in the school and bombs on a boat.

The bombs are all made out of binary liquid explosives, and mentioned as that too, with the first explosion at Bonwit & Teller's, founded by the German chap, Paul Bonwit, which Simon says, is "just to get your attention", going off at 49 = 7x7 seconds into the film.

Bonwit and Teller was once sold to the Atlas Corporation (see Bonwit Wiki)

Quote:

Wikipedia

The Atlas Missile program was named after the Atlas Corporation, the contractor through its Consolidated Vultee Aircraft Corporation, (later Convair) subsidiary, which was used in the Mercury missions to send astronauts into orbit.


See: The fictional UK Red Mercury plot created out of thin air, by Murdoch's News of the World in cahoots with Mi5.




Paul Bonwit also:

Quote:
Wikipedia

During his business career, Bonwit sat on the boards of both Harriman National Bank and A. Sulka & Company.


See: Bush Family Funded Adolf Hitler


Which might just explain why that department store was chosen as the site of the first explosion.

This theme might also explain why there is so much (to me) obvious finger pointing back to Bush. Then again, if the LaRouche line is considered, then maybe, birds of a feather ....

Quote:

Simon:

Birds of a feather flock together
So do pigs and swine
Rats and mice have their chance
As will as I have mine.




Samuel L. Jackson's character, Zeus, is the Good Samaritan who gets enraged each time a white man calls him "bro", is also an electrican who jumps the ticket barrier at Wall Street tube as he hurries to answer the pay phone that Simon will ring at a certain time, while Lt McClane is searching the train carriages to find the binary liquids bomb before it goes bang. Zeus is confonted by a very nervous, young, rookie cop who pulls his gun, threatening to shoot the Good Samaritan, if he doesn't put the phone down, because he jumped over the ticket barrier. Ring any bells ...

As he entered the platform, the station clock already shows, 10:19:10, so he has only 49 = 7x7, whole seconds left until the bomb on the train will explode at 10:20 am


In one, telling piece of dialogue, Lt McClane has a sudden realisation, due to the distinction between the previous bombs and the one that just went off in the underground.

The first bomb in the litter bin didn't actually exist, because Simon did not say "Simon says" and the next suitcase binary liquids bomb in the park was disarmed by McClane working out a maths logic problem using gallons of water.

So if Simon doesn't say, "Simon says", it turns out to be a hoax. The bombs are only real if Simon says, "Simon says" ....

McClane realises that although Simon is playing a game with him, for killing his brother, Simon actually intended the bomb on the tube to go off, regardless.

Quote:
That bomb was going to go off no matter what, he wanted it to go off. Right down there.


Interesting message.

The bomb is triggered by the wheel of the carriage going over two wire contacts on the rail which in turn triggers a radio device that triggers the bomb.


There's also a shot of the reversed 911 etched on the police station communications dept., glass door, from the rear, so it looks exactly as it should all along, a 911 in reverse - showing as it should be = 119

The bomb disposal man at the school, Charley, trying to defuse a (fake) binary liquids bomb, hidden inside a large refridgerator, even says:

Quote:
It's not rigged. Pull it.



The fridge shows a temperature of 42 degrees F, (7+7+7 + 7+7+7 > 777 777) and was delivered at 10.30 am that morning.

1030 = 911 + 119


About the (fake) bomb in the children's school, Simon, in his broken German accent, says:

Quote:
I have put 2400 pounds of explosives in one of the 1446 schools in center New York.


2400 pounds @ 100 pounds per US hundredweight (CWT) = P7+7 CWT

1446 = 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 119 + 119 + 119


Once the school had been identified, the school scenes show all of the children gathered into the school hall. They cannot be released from school because Simon says he will trigger the bomb.

This reminded me of the Beslan school siege.

Quote:
Wikipedia: Beslan school hostage crisis

It began when a group of armed mostly Ingush and Chechen Islamic militants took more than 1,100 people (including 777 children [5]) hostage on 1 September [2004]


The siege ended with explosions and death on 3.9.2004.

From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to Beslan ending on 3.9.2004 is:

= 413 weeks, 413 days

413 = 7 x 59 and 59 = PP7

= 7 x PP7 weeks, 7 x PP7 days > 77 77


A few kids were hiding in their classroom and were locked in by the school janitor.


The villains also rob the New York federal reserve of their gold, as per 9/11, having just blown up the underground at Wall St Station with the binary liquids bomb that McClane manages to find and throw out of the tube carriage before it explodes. The gold is carried off in large dump trucks through tunnels.

The background music played during the heist scenes is "The Runaway Train"...


There are shots of the twin towers and the WTC93 event is mentioned too.


From WTC93 on 26.2.1993 to DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 is:

= 903 days


903 = 777 + 126 and 126 = 119+7

903 days = 777 + 7xP7+7 days > 777 777



There are various quizzes on-line about this film, one asking about the number plate of the yellow cab that the good guys hijacked to get across New York to Wall Street Station, something I made a note of too:

The license plate reads "2T 94"

Well, 94 = 77 + P7 > 777 and I wondered if the 2T bit is meant to be interpreted as "2 times" as in 2 x 94 = 188 and > 777 777

18.8.1995 being the date of the film's release in the UK and which, I contend, has been used as a root date for other events and is also the date of Bush-41 first mentioning the 1000 Points of Light in his nomination acceptance speech of 18.8.1988, 77+7 months prior to the film's UK release (DHWAV-UK), which forms a bridge to other events.

The cab has various stickers on the rear boot lid, front bumpers and inside the cab door, which state :

Quote:

ISLAM IS THE SOLUTION

PRAISE ALLAH

SURRENDER TO ISLAM

ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE




McClane uses the cab's radio to call in an emergency and gives his Access Number as 7479.

Quote:
John: Lieutenant John McClane, NYPD, access number 7479, calling from a civilian transmitter. Get me an emergency dispatcher right away.



7479 = P77 x P7 + P( 77+7 ) + P( 77+7 ) > 777 777 777


7479 = 3 x 3 x 3 x 277 = P(59) and 59=P(17) and 17=P(7), so 277 = PPP7

So, 7479 = 3 x 9 x PPP7

777 777 777
777 777 777
777 777 777

*

Inside tube train No 3 that is about to go bang, there are various posters advertising volunteer organisations, the supposed "real" subject of the Bush-41, 1000 Points of Light statement and it's subsequent Points of Light Foundation and it's successor, the Points of Light Institute.


The ambulance that is requested from Roosevelt Hospital, to carve a route through the NYC traffic, even has a licence plate of "AF 9142".

9142 = 7 + 7 x P(119) > 77 77

or, P(119) + P(119) x 7

and AF in hexadecimal = 175 as in UA175 = 77 + 7x7 + 7x7 > 77 77 77

(Click A then F then DEC)


9142 + 175 = 9317 = 7 x 11 x 11 x 11

9142 - 175 = 8967 = 3 x 2989 = 3 x ( 911 + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + 119 )




In the elevator scene inside the bank, there is a lingering close-up shot, of one of the villains dressed in police uniform, which shows his badge with "B-2"

B2 in hexadecimal is 178 = 2 x 89 = 2 x Prime(24) and 24 = 17+7 or 8+8+8 or 6+6+6+6 or 3x2x2 + 3x2x2

178 = P ( P7+7 ) + P( P7+7) > 77 77

and

178 = P ( 8+8+8 ) + P( 8+8+8 ) > 888 888

and

178 = 119 + 59 = P7 x 7 + PP7 > 777


B in hexadecimal = 11 and 11-2 = 9 > 119


One of the clues Simon gives to the location of the distracting (fake) bomb in the school is by asking:

Quote:
Simon: "Ask yourself this question: What's 21 out of 42?"


42 = 7+7+7 + 7+7+7

21 = 7+7+7

2142 = ( 9 x 119 ) + ( 9 x 119 )


Somehow, read the script, or better, watch the film, Zeus ends up at the Yankees Stadium where the villains have a marksman in the stand aiming a rifle at Zeus as he looks for a bomb. They take orders from their boss on the radio as the marksman asks whether he should shoot Zeus, the Good Samaritan, or not.

Quote:
At the Yankee's stadium:

Marksman: Now?

Villain: No, there's only one of them.

Marksman: Yes or no? Yes or no?

Boss: No! We'll follow him.



Zeus picks up a child's toy from Seat Number 1.

The toy is one of those ball bearing skill puzzles, where you have to balance it to get all the ball bearings in the holes and it has American football players on it in a very obvious, Masonic Compass design.

When Zeus, the Good Samaritan, turns the game over there is a label on the reverse, saying "Game Over".

The Yankees retired the Number 1 shirt that belonged to Billy Martin on 10th August 1986. Ring any bells ...


From 10.8.1989 to the first arrests in the faux T.A.T.P binary liquids nonsense at Heathrow on 9.8.2006 is:

= 913 weeks, 913 days and 913 = 11 x 83 and 83 = Prime(23) and 23 = Prime(9) - So: 83 = Prime(P9) or simply, PP9

= 11 x PP9 weeks, 11 x PP9 days > 119 119


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to the date that we all woke up to the Binary Liquids nonsense aka "airport scanners marketing scheme" at Heathrow on 10.8.2006 inclusive is:

= 4011 days

4011 days = P( 119 + 119 + 119 ) + P( 119 + 119 ) + 119 days



Billy Martin died on Christmas Day 1989.

The villains do not follow Zeus and the trip to the Yankee Stadium is, for me, difficult to understand as no basis is given for it, other than it being "a wild goose chase".


So I'm left wondering why that scene was included and what it was all about, other than there being no need to kill the Good Samaritan because there is only one of him and the possible allusion, via, the death of Billy Martin on Christmas Day, to the birth of Christ and the Game Over duality with the bomb not being found and Christianity and possibly the obvious symbol of the Masons.

Other than that, unless I've missed something, the entire diversion is a complete red herring. Maybe that's the point.


From Billy Martin's death on 25.12.1989 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 is:

= 4278 days

4278 = 6 x 713 and 713 = 31 x 23 and 31 = P11 and 23 = P9

4278 = P11xP9 + P11xP9 + P11xP9 + P11xP9 + P11xP9 + P11xP9

and

4278 = P(77x7) + P(77)



Somehow the good guys deduce that the 42-21 question, must mean the 21st President and that the bomb must be in a school named after him, the Chester A. Arthur Public School or elementary school.

So why choose Chester A Arthur ?

Chester A Arthur was inaugurated as 7+7+7 th POTUS after the assassination of Garfield, who died on 19.9.1881.

From the death of Garfield and the inauguration of Arthur on 19.9.1881 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 is:

= 119 years, 119 + 119 + 119 days


A woman, badly driving a VW convertible, cuts across John McClane and Zeus on the road and McClane says:

Quote:
John: Who do you think you are lady? Henry Clinton?

Zeus: That's it.

John: What?

Zeus: Henry Clinton. The 42nd president.

John: No, he'll be the 43rd president.

Zeus: All right, all right. But who's the 21st?


The on-line script says Henry Clinton, but McClane and Zeus both clearly say, Hillary Clinton.

Maybe I'm missing an obvious joke in there about Ms Clinton...and / or a possible reference to Henry Clinton ?

I originally thought this might be referring to this event involving Hillary Clinton on 14 October 2001. But that's in the future .... so, erm ...

It must be referring to Bill Clinton's convertible Mustang, bought for him by his step-father, Jeff Dwire, in which Bill, Hillary and Chelsea, went for a ride in on Bill's 46th birthday, in Little Rock, Ark., on 19.8.1992, the 77th day before he was elected on 3.11.1992


There's a couple of references to Donald Trump who demolished the bankrupt Bonwit & Teller store to build his Trump Tower.

There's also a couple of references to Father Christmas & St Nicholas - not all in the on-line script, a possible reference to Jesus.

There's much more work to do on other numbers in the film, it's allegories and it's "event" timings.

For example: in the 11th minute after 9am Zeus says:

Quote:
Zeus: [It's] 10 after 9. Why aren't you in school?



There is also a huge theme centred around Aspirin, developed by IG Farben-Bayer. This may well be an allegorical reference to Zyklon B.

A more obvious contender could be Clinton's cruise missiles fired into the Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory in Sudan, just to make him look rather stupid of course and sold to us as an "aspirin" factory, when in fact it produced many more important medicines.

The cruise missile strike on 20.8.1998 was reportedely in retaliation to the bombing of the US embassies in Africa on 7.8.1998 - the 8th anniversary of Bush-41's Desert Shield, which annoyed the central psyop character, known as Tim Osman. Allegedly.

The message was that your President can't do anything about it when Americans are attacked by "terrorists."

The cruise missile event on the aspirin factory on 20.8.1998 marked the 1119 th day before 1.11.9 < US date format in reverse Y.DD.M

A clearer "signal", I cannot imagine...


*

In one scene in DH:WAV, Simon calls McClane and relates the following nursery rhyme / riddle:


As I was going to St Ives

As I was going to St Ives
I met a man with seven wives
Every wife had seven sacks
Every sack had seven cats
Every cat had seven kits
Kits, cats, sacks, wives
How many were going to St Ives?


McClane and his partner Zeus have to work out the answer and use that answer to phone back Simon in 10 seconds otherwise the bomb will go off.

Zeus eventually gets the answer right as 1 and they dial the number 555-001 and save the day.

Zeus' first attempt at solving the obvious maths riddle is the one most would choose to do, without listening properly to the rhyme :


7 wives x 7 sacks x 7 cats x 7 kittens = 2401


Which is exactly the number of days between DHWAV being released in the UK on 18.8.1995 and Bush-41's inauguration on 20.1.1989

= 2401 days

= 7x7x7x7 days

= 7x7x7 weeks


The script (link above) mentions "Free lance terrorism. By contract." and then in the next breath mentions Israelis slipping a bomb ...

Scale up "Simon says, or else" on a global scale and you'll get the picture of what's been going on these past years ... all in the name of a fictitious organisation called Al Q naturally ...


Why has nobody mentioned this film before ?


EDIT:

DHWAV is mentioned in relation to 9/11 here.



DHWAV-UK as a root date for 9/11


and from DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 is:

= 59 months, 59 weeks, 7 days

= PP7 m, PP7 w, 7 d > 777


it is also:

= 277 weeks, 277 days


277 = Prime(59) and 59 = Prime(17) and 17 = Prime 7

So, 277 = P(P(P7))) or simply PPP7

= PPP7 weeks, PPP7 days > 77


The telephone number they dialled, having worked out the answer to the rhyme was 555-001

So, perhaps the "-" is a minus sign ?

555 - 001 = 554 = 2 x 277

same 2 x 277 as 277w & 277d from DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 until 9/11


DHWAV Lottery Numbers


Quote:


John: Hey, what was the lottery numbers last night?

ALL: 4667


John: Still betting your badge Rick?

Ricky: Yeah, 6991 every week.

John: 6991, lucky number.

Joe: Every cop in New York plays their badges.




4667 = P(77x7) + P77 + P77


6991 = P(777) + 777 + P(7x7) + 77+7


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Though I am not into numerology, I strongly suspect many things are set to occur on certain dates.

Here is a short video, the second part of which shows date of Minerva's birthday, March 19th, as being important to Masons and Illuminati, and of wars and major bloodletting kicking off on that date:

http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/war/-libyan-invasion-was-pl anned10-years-in-advance-gen-wesley-clarke.html

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The Execution of Jean Charles de Menezes - 22.7.2005


The innocent electrician who was murdered on 22.7.2005, the day before his 3 months immigration extension expired.

Jean Charles was subsequently, falsely accused of jumping the barrier at Stockwell tube and then smeared by the MPS via the Daily Mirror who ran a false "story" accusing him of rape.


J7: Jean Charles de Menezes Resources

Terror on the Tube: Operation Kratos and the De Menezes Assassination


Original 911 forum thread:


I have copied the original post here, because it was part of another post and because it needs updating with new information.


First of all, it is worth noting the significance of the dd.mm - 22.7

For those that may be inclined to combine numeric characters, although not strictly numerology, but certainly not date arithmetic either, might well see 22.7 as 227 :


The number 227 = Prime(49) = Prime or P(7x7)

Also, 22 x 7 = 154 = 77 + 77


And 2207 = P( 119 + 119 ) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119


This may, in part, explain why this date has been used for so many events over the years.


See also: Anders Breivik in Oslo 22.7.2011 - Updated with the Madrid Peace Conference and DHWAV-UK relationships.


and : The 9/11 Commission Fiction on 22.7.2004


and : The Bombing of the King David Hotel on 22.7.1946


and : the Mossad assasination of Naji Salim al-Ali, the Palestinian cartoonist, in London on 22.7.1987


*

I am of the opinion that the 22.7.2005 event was planned all along.


The 21.7.2005 chappatti flour / expanding foam event on the underground, the day before, provided the reason for the murder of a completely innocent man, Jean Charles de Menezes, the day after the 21.7 fake terror, on 22.7.2005 and for the MPS to invoke their, hiterhto, unknown, shoot-to-kill policy of Operation Kratos.


Quote:
The Guardian - 8 March 2006

The terrorist who wasn't

...

Recognition that Kratos had been eventually signed off operationally and legally was formally made at a meeting on January 22 2003 at MI5 headquarters. From that point it was up and running.

...

The Guardian




From the Madrid Peace Conference on 1.11.1991 to Kratos going live on 22.1.2003 is:

= 301 weeks and P(301) days

= 7 x P( 7+7 ) weeks, P( 7 x P( 7+7 )) days > 777 777


From the Oslo Peace Accords being signed on 13.9.1993 to Kratos going live on 22.1.2003 is:

= 3418 days

3418 = 2 x 1709 and 1709 = PP( 49 ) + P( 49 ) + 49


3418 days = PP( 7x7 ) + P( 7x7 ) + 7x7 + PP( 7x7 ) + P( 7x7 ) + 7x7 days

or 7 years, P7 months 7x7 weeks > 7777



From Kratos becoming operational on 22.1.2003 to the murder of Jean Charles de Menezes on 22.7.2005 is an interval of:

= 911 days

and normal date duration:

= 912 days = 888 + 8+8+8 > 888 888



From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to Kratos going live on 22.1.2003 is an interval of:

= 2713 days

2713 = Prime(396)

396 = 389+7 and 389 = Prime(77)

2713 days = P(77+7) days > 777


Also: 396 = 4x99

2713 days = P( 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 ) days > 119 119 119 119


From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to Kratos becoming live on 22.1.2003 inclusive is:

= 77 months



From 9/11 on 11.9.2001 to Kratos becoming live on 22.1.2003 inclusive is:


= 13 months, 13 weeks, 13 days

= P6 m , P6 w, P6 d > 666



We found out about the operational date of Kratos from the above Guardian article on 8.3.2003. As far as I know, that was the only article that quoted the Kratos date of 22.1.2003 at the time.



From JCdM on 22.7.2005 to the Guardian article of 8.3.2006 is :

= 7 months, 7+7 days > 777



From Kratos allegedly going live on 22.1.2003 to the Guardian article of 8.3.2006 is:

= 1141 days

1141 days = 777 + 7x7x7 + 7+7+7 days > 777 777 777



The MPS / Daily Mirror smear of JcDM


I have it recorded that the source of the false rape allegation was the Daily Mirror.

Quote:
Daily Mirror

DE MENEZES RAPED ME

By Justin Penrose Crime Correspondent, sundaymirror.co.uk 12/03/2006

EXCLUSIVE WHAT HIS GIRLFRIEND SAYS It's absurd. Ridiculous.. a complete lie and very painful for us after my Jean was killed by police

POLICE are investigating sensational claims by a British woman that she was RAPED by the man anti-terror cops shot dead on a London Tube train.

She has told detectives she believes Brazilian electrician Jean Charles de Menezes - killed after he was mistaken for a suicide bomber - was the man who raped her three years ago.

But Mr de Menezes' girlfriend Adriana da Silva Lima brands the allegation as "absurd".

"What she's saying is ridiculous," she said last night. "It's a complete lie and very painful to have to deal with. All I want is to see the people who killed Jean punished."

The alleged victim contacted police in London three weeks ago after she saw a picture of Mr de Menezes on the TV news. She told them: "I think that's the man who raped me".

Forensic specialists are now comparing his DNA against a sample taken on the night of the rape. A result is expected in the next couple of weeks.

Mr de Menezes, 27, was shot dead shortly after he boarded a train at Stockwell Tube Station on July 22 last year. Armed officers wrongly identified him as 21/7 bombing suspect Hussein Osman and he was shot in the head seven times.

The woman, who is in her early 20s, reported her claims against de Menezes to a West End Police Station.

She said that she had been stunned when she saw a picture of de Menezes because he bore such a resemblance to the rapist. But there is no explanation as to why she did not come forward last summer when his picture was first published.

She told police she was out on New Year's Eve 2002 with friends in London's West End when she became separated from the group. She claims she started talking to two men who then picked her up in a car.

She said the next thing she could remember was that she was in a hotel room being raped by a man who looked like de Menezes.

She told officers that after her ordeal she fled the hotel and tried to find her friends. She made her way back to the nightclub where she told staff.

She reported the incident to police at the time and DNA swabs were taken.

She said that the man who raped her had a Mediterranean complexion and a foreign accent.

But last night de Menezes' girlfriend Adriana - who dated him for five years before his death and spent several months living with him in London - said the claims were ridiculous.

Speaking from her home in Sao Paolo she said: "Jean's family have been through enough already with out having to cope with this now. I just don't understand why she's gone to the police and said he was involved. It's absurd."

Shop worker Adriana, 32, added: "Jean Charles was always the perfect gentlemen with me. He was always respectful towards me and my women friends. There were never any problems. I'm quite happy to speak to police if they want to speak to me.

"Not a day goes by when I don't think about Jean. I don't speak often to his family because they live far from me.

"But I follow everything that's said on the news about him and the investigation into his death.

"All I want is to see that investigation reach its end and the people who killed Jean punished."

When the woman contacted police three weeks ago to say she believed de Menezes was the rapist, officers from Scotland Yard got in touch with chiefs looking into the fatal shooting. Officers said that because of the sensitive nature of the allegation nothing could happen until the woman made a formal statement. Ten days ago she went to a police station to make her official complaint.

DNA swabs taken from the victim at the time of the attack are now being tested for a match against Mr de Menezes' DNA.

A police source said: "This woman's claims came like a bolt out of the blue. It's quite awkward, as the de Menezes incident was one of the most embarrassing and tragic events in the force's history.

"The Met are between a rock and a hard place ... they have to investigate all allegations of sexual assault but this claim is against a man who was tragically shot dead by officers by accident.

"Now this allegation has been reported officers have to investigate it and take it seriously. It makes it all look too convenient for the Met to take the heat off of the service and the commissioner." Mr de Menezes first came to London in March 2002 aiming for a "better life". His shooting caused an outrage amid allegations of a cover-up by Scotland Yard and commissioner Sir Ian Blair, who has been fighting to save his job ever since. It has been claimed that Special Branch officers altered documents after the shooting in a bid to dodge blame.

Prime Minister Tony Blair last week offered his "deepest regrets" for the tragedy in front of Brazilian President Luiz Incio Lula da Silva.

A Scotland Yard spokesman said last night: "The victim of a rape in the West End of London more than three years ago contacted us earlier this year and provided the name of an alleged suspect.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission and the family's solicitor are being kept informed of the inquiry.

justin.penrose@sundaymirror.co.uk





Quote:
Wikipedia

False rape allegations

In February 2006, a woman claimed to police that a man who resembled Menezes had attacked her in a hotel room on New Year's Eve 2002 in west London. Scotland Yard spent several weeks investigating the claim.[112]

After the claim was made public in March 2006, the Menezes family denied the allegation and claimed that the Metropolitan Police were trying to smear Menezes.[113]

Although the family initially denied the request, a blood sample was eventually taken with their permission from Menezes' autopsy. On 25 April 2006 Scotland Yard announced that forensic tests on the sample had cleared Menezes.[114]




See also: J7: thread


Quote:

The Independent

De Menezes family furious over Met 'sex smear' on son
By Sophie Goodchild, Chief Reporter

Sunday 12 March 2006

Scotland Yard was at the centre of a new row over the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes following allegations that he was the suspect in a rape case.

It has emerged that the 27-year-old electrician, gunned down by armed officers at Stockwell Tube station, is being linked with a sex attack in London.

Officers have contacted lawyers acting for the dead man's family to ask for permission to examine DNA samples taken after his death. These are understood to be held by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) which has been investigating the shooting and has also been contacted by the Metropolitan Police.

The inquiry is in response to a call, more than six months after the Brazilian's death, from a rape victim who named Mr de Menezes as her attacker.

Sources close to his family have reacted with fury to the allegations. They accuse the Metropolitan police of deliberately leaking the details of the rape inquiry in an attempt to deflect attention from the investigation into the shooting of Mr de Menezes, who was mistaken for a terrorist by armed officers.

His relatives are already pursuing a complaint against Sir Ian Blair, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police who, they allege, misled the public in the wake of the shooting.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) is also considering whether to bring charges against the officers involved in the death of Mr de Menezes.

A source told The Independent on Sunday: "This is a deliberate attempt to deflect the blame. First [the police] tried to say he was a terrorist and now this... he is no longer here to defend himself."

Last night, the Metropolitan Police confirmed that inquiries were continuing into the alleged rape, which happened in the West End of London.

The Met said in a statement: "The victim of a rape in the West End more than three years ago contacted us earlier this year and provided the name of a suspect. The name was given as that of Jean Charles de Menezes... and inquiries are continuing."

Mr de Menezes was shot dead by armed officers on 22 July, the day after the failed copycat bombings on the London Underground. Eyewitness accounts of the shooting initially suggested that the Brazilian electrician was a suicide bomber - an impression the police did not try to alter.

Surveillance officers searching for Hussein Osman, who was allegedly involved in the failed bombings, had been staking out the flats in Tulse Hill from which Mr de Menezes emerged.

The Independent on Sunday last month revealed that the IPCC report alleges police tried to fake evidence relating to the killing by altering the police log. According to the report an officer outside the flats wrongly identified Mr de Menezesas Osman and firearms officers were dispatched to stop him. Once it was known an innocent man had been killed, the log was altered so that instead of reading "it was Osman", it read "it was not Osman".




First of all, the dd.mm of the false event on 31.12.2002 is always suspicious.

Be aware that those inclined to combine numeric characters, although not strictly numerology, but certainly not date arithmetic either, might well see 31.12 as the number 3112 :


3112 = 8 x 389 and 389 = Prime(77)

3112 = P77 + P77 + P77 + P77 + P77 + P77 + P77 + P77




From the date of the false rape event on 31.12.2002 to the Daily Mirror running the false MPS smear story on 12.3.2006 is:

= 1167 days

1167 = 3 x 389 and 389 = Prime(77)


1167 days = P77 + P77 + P77 days



From the murder of Jean Charles de Menezes on 22.7.2005 to the Daily Mirror running the false MPS smear story on 12.3.2006 is an interval of :

= 7 months, 17 days

= 7 m, P7 d > 77


it is also normal date arithmetic:

= 233 days

233 = Prime(51) and 51 = 3 x 17

= P( P7 + P7 + P7 ) days > 777



From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to the date of the false rape event on 31.12.2002 inclusive is:

= 7 years, 17 weeks, 17 days

= 7 y, P7 w, P7 d > 777



From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to the Daily Mirror running the false MPS smear story on 12.3.2006 inclusive is:

= 119 months, 119 + 119 days > 77 77 77



Cressida Dick, the Operational Commander on the day that Jean Charles was murdered, was promoted to the rank of Commander on 9.11.2000.

9.11.2000 was also the same day that the surveillance of Moinul Abedin is said to have begun in the Mi5 / Special Branch Operation Large in Birmingham. See here also.

Quote:


MPA appoints Met top officers

29/00

09 November 2000

The Metropolitan Police Authority has appointed six new police Commanders on promotion ...

...

Four of the new Commanders are serving Metropolitan Police officers, two are currently with Thames Valley Police.

They are:

... and Cressida Dick, 39 ...

MPA




From Cressida Dick's promotion to MPS Commander on 9.11.2000 to the murder of Jean Charles de Menezes on 22.7.2005, under Ms Dick's Operational Command, is an interval of:

= 1715 days

1715 = 5 x 343 and 343 = 7x7x7

1715 days = 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 days



From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to the reported start of the surveillance of Moinul Abedin in the Mi5 Operation Large and the promotion of Ms Dick to MPS Commander on 9.11.2000 is:

= 51 months, 51 weeks

51 = 3 x 17 and 17 = Prime(7) or P7

= P7+P7+P7 m, P7+P7+P7 w > 777 777


*


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to the murder of Jean Charles de Menezes on 22.7.2005 is:

= 3626 days


3626 days = P( 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 ) + 11 x P9 > 119 119 119 119 119






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The Madrid Peace Conference, the Oslo Accords, DHWAV-UK, 9/11, London 7/7 and Madrid 11/3


Wikipedia: Madrid Peace Conference - 30.10.1991 to 1.11.1991


which begat, the secretly convened :


Wikipedia: Oslo Accords - 13.9.1993


See also: The Madrid Peace Conference, Oslo Accords and Anders Breivik in Oslo


and Who murdered the Oslo Accords ?


*

From the Madrid Peace Conference on 1.11.1991 to DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 is:

= 198 weeks

= 9 x 11 + 9 x 11 weeks > 911 911 > 666 666

or 7 x (9x11 + 9x11) days > 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911 > 14 lots of 666

it is also:

= 1386 days

1386 = 6 x 231 = 6 x (77+77+77) > 777 777 777 777 777 777 777 777 777 777 777 777


*

From the Oslo Peace Accords being signed on 13.9.1993 to DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 is:

= 704 days = 88 x 8 days > 888


*

9/11 on 11.9.2001


From the Madrid Peace Conference on 1.11.1991 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 is:

= 3602 days


3602 = 2 x 1801 and 1801 = Prime(279)


3602 = P( 279 ) + P( 279 ) days


279 = 9 x 31 and 31 = Prime(11) = P11


3602 days = P( 9 x P11 ) + P( 9 x P11 ) > 911 911 > 666 666


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From the Oslo Accords being signed on 13.9.1993 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001

9/11 on 11.9.2001 was the 2921 st day of the Oslo Accords being signed on 13.9.1993


2921 = 23 x 127


23 = Prime(9) = P9 and 127 = Prime(31) and 31 = Prime(11) - So: 127 = P(P11) or simply, PP11 and


2921 days = P9 x PP11 > 911 > 666


It is also an INTERVAL of:

= 78 months, 78 weeks

= 39 + 39 months, 39 + 39 weeks

39 = 3 x 13 and 13 = P6


= P6+P6+P6 + P6+P6+P6 months, P6+P6+P6 + P6+P6+P6 weeks > 666 666





London 7.7.2005


From the Madrid Peace Conference on 1.11.1991 to London on 7.7.2005 inclusive is:

= 4998 days

4988 = 6 x 833

833 = 7 x 7 x 17 = 7 x 7 x P7

4988 = 7x7xP7 + 7x7xP7 + 7x7xP7 + 7x7xP7 + 7x7xP7 + 7x7xP7 > 777 777 777 777 777 777


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From the Oslo Peace Accords being signed on 13.9.1993 to London 7.7.2005 isL

= 67 months, 8 weeks, 2221 days


2221 = P331 and 331 = P67 and 67 = P19 and 19 = P8


= PP8 months, 8 weeks, PPP8 days > 888


it is also an interval of :

= 119 months, 11 x 9 weeks > 119 119






Madrid 11.3.2004


From the Madrid Peace Conference on 1.11.1991 to the event in Madrid on 11.3.2004 is an interval of:

= 4513 days

4513 days = P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days



From the Oslo Peace Accords being signed on 13.9.1993 to Madrid on 11.3.2004 is:

= 3832 days

3832 days = 911 + P9 x PP11 days > 911 911 > 666 666







Note: 119 = 7xP7 > 77




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DHWAV-UK to London 7.7.2005


See also: July 7 Inquest

At last I've found this elusive relationship.

Sneaky, deceiving *****, but we know that don't we.

When you're in the business of death, global domination, murder and mayhem and blaming all of that on some fictitious outfit, I suppose a little skulduggery within the project schedule is a trifling matter and should be expected:


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to London on 7.7.2005 is:

= 3611 days

3611 = P( 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 ) + 119 + 119 days




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DHWAV-UK to Madrid on 11.3.2004


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to Madrid on 11.3.2004 is:

= 3128 days

3128 days = 911 + 911 + P(119) + P(119) days



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DHWAV-UK to Bali on 12.10.2002


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to Bali on 12.10.2002 is:

= 2612 days

2612 days = P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) days



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DHWAV-UK to 9/11 on 11.9.2001

From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 inclusive is:

= 2217 days

2217 days = 911 + P(119) + P(119) days



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The DHWAV-UK film script post, has been updated with important source information on the Jonathan Institute / JCIT conference and the relevance of the film's NYC lottery number - 7479, the long lingering shots of the police badge number - 6991 and it's dialogue and McClane's 7479 Access Number.

A new fact to me was Dick Cheney's cameo ....


The Operation Rhyme - Dhiren Barot post has also been updated.

as has the Mi5 Events post

and the Nicky Reilly - Exeter Giraffe Cafe event

and the Robin Cook post

and the Old Trafford bomb plot hoax


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John Smith MP - former Leader of the Old Labour Party - died 12.5.1994


Wikipedia: John Smith MP

See also: Robin Cook MP


Quote:
Things can only get better ....



Many people have long held suspicions about the death of old school Labourite, John Smith, to make way for the NWO friendly Fabians, under the disgusting, war mongering, vainglorious sycophant, Princess Bliar.


A long discussion on: Was John Smith murdered


If you've been paying attention, you might have noticed a possible problem with the root dates of the DHWAV-UK, Jihad and Fatwah, given that the earliest of them, DHWAV-UK only goes back to 18.8.1995

So what about pre August 1995 events you may ask ?

If you've really been paying attention, you will know that DHWAV-UK forms a convenient bridge to Bush-41 and it is my contention that is why it has been used as a root date for events post August 1995.

DHWAV-UK's root date is of course Bush-41 and is described fully here.


To recap then:

Bush-41, contrary to what the Wikipedians would have you believe, first used his "1000 Points of Light" phrase on 18.8.1988 during his Presidential nomination acceptance speech.

The phrase is traditionally credited to his speech writer, Peggy Noonan. That may well be the case, but it's (publicly declared) roots seem to be in the CS Lewis book, from the Narnia series, The Magicians Nephew, but all that, is not for now.

If you've really, really been paying attention, then you will have noticed that CS Lewis died on the same day that JFK was ritually murdered, live on TV, on 22.11.1963


Maybe Bush was revealing something to the world ?


It is my contention that the 1000 Points of Light speech marked the dawn of the Bush-41 and affiliates, New World Order and all that goes with that.

After "much adolescent fumbling" as someone recently characterised "the early years" to me, they finally got their act together, with a planned and structured worldwide pogrom, based on a psyop using the Jihad as a basis for all the "planned new normals" that we have so far witnessed and all the rest to come.

The script and the film Die Hard: With A Vengeance, provides a very apposite, allegorical framework for the required "terrorism" events we have all subsequently witnessed.

I contend that the UK release date of the film, DHWAV-UK = 18.8.1995, provides the necessary numeric bridge to all things Bush-41 and his 1000 PoL speech, thus rendering another layer to cover the real root date for future events in the "attack matrix", whilst remaining hidden from those further down the pyramid, who, as usual, only need to know so much.

So, whenever you see the DHWAV-UK link, think 777 to Bush-41 and his chums, sponsors and "dual use" partners and beneficiaries...

Have we had 1000 explosions yet ?


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Original post is here

From G H W Bush accepting the Presidential nomination and his first 1000 Points of Light speech on 18.8.1988 to the UK release date of Die Hard: With A Vengeance on 18.8.1995 is:

= 7 years

= 84 months

= 77+7 m > 777


G H W Bush was inaugurated POTUS on 20.1.1989


From GHW Bush 1000 Points of Light speech on 18.8.1988 to being inaugurated on 20.1.1989 is an interval of:

= 77 + 77 days


From G H W Bush inaugurated on 20.1.1989 to the UK release date of Die Hard: With A Vengeance DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 is:

= 2401 days

= 7x7x7x7 days


= 343 weeks

= 7x7x7 weeks > 777


The numbers 2401 and 343 are repeated in the actual script of DHWAV.


From GHW Bush head of the CIA (red or blue team ?) on 30.1.1976 to the UK release of Die Hard: With A Vengeance on 18.8.1995 is an interval of :


= 17 years, 17 months, 59 weeks

= P7 y, P7 m, PP7 w > 777



So what has all this got to do with the, non-NWO friendly, most definitely future PM, John Smith, after the long awaited, final rejection of the long overstaying Tories, because that was defintitely going to happen, right ?

I mean, whatever Rupert says, the British "electorate" actually do, right ?


From Bush 1000 PoL on 18.8.1988 to the death of John Smith on 12.5.1994 is:

= 2093 days

2093 days = 77x7 + 777 + 777 days



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Wikipedia: John Smith

Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer

Smith was appointed Shadow Chancellor by Neil Kinnock in July 1987 after Party's general election defeat. However, he suffered a heart attack whilst Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer on 9 October 1988 and was forced to spend three months away from Westminster to recover. On that occasion, he had complained of chest pains the night before, and had to be persuaded to cancel a flight to London so he could go to hospital for a check up. He was examined at the Edinburgh Royal Infirmary by an ECG. The doctor who examined him said "Whatever it is, we don't think it is your heart". Then Smith suddenly collapsed and was briefly unconscious before coming around. He spent three days in intensive care before leaving hospital on 20 October 1988, to make a full recovery.



From John Smith's first "heart attack", or not, on 9.10.1988 to his death from a 2nd "heart attack" on 12.5.1994 is:

= 34 months, P(34) weeks, 34 days

P(34)=139

= P7+P7 m, P( P7+P7) w, P7+P7 d > 77 77 77


from John Smith's death on 12.5.1994 to DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995, is an interval of:

= 462 days

462 days = 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 days



from John Smith's death on 12.5.1994 to Iraq on 20.3.2003 is:

= 462 weeks


462 weeks = 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 weeks


or 3234 days = 77x7 + 77x7 + 77x7 + 77x7 + 77x7 + 77x7 days




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WTC93 on 26.2.1993


Updated post: WTC93 on 26.2.1993 again


Wikipedia: 1993 World Trade Center bombing


From Bush-41 1000 Points of Light on 18.8.1988 to WTC93 on 26.2.1993 is an interval of:


= 43 months, 43 weeks, 43 days


43 = Prime(14)

= P( 7+7 ) m, P( 7+7 ) w, P( 7+7 ) d > 77 77 77


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43 is also:

43 = P(6 + 6) + 6


So, 43 months, 43 weeks, 43 days is:


= P(6 + 6) + 6 months, P(6 + 6) + 6 weeks, P(6 + 6) + 6 days > 666 666 666


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43 as P(14) is also:

14 = 3 + 1 + 1 + 9 > 3119 see below

So, 43 months, 43 weeks, 43 days is:

P(14) months, P(14) weeks, P(14) days

and

P( 3+1+1+9) months, P( 3+1+1+9) weeks, P( 3+1+1+9) days > 3119 3119 3119


*


From Bush-41 inaugurated on 20.1.1989 to WTC93 on 26.2.1993 inclusive is:

= 7x7 months, 7 days > 777



26th February in all years, is the 57th day of the year

57 = 19 + 19 + 19 = P8 + P8 + P8 > 888


normal duration from the start of the year (SOY) is: 56 days = 7x7+7 > 777


with 308 days remaining until the end of the year (EOY) = 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 days


226 = 113 + 113 = 2x 7x7 + 8x8 > 77 88 77 88


262 = 119 + 119 + 24 = P7x7 + P7x7 + P7+7 > 77 77 77


*


From WTC93 on 26.2.1993 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 = 3119 days


3119 = Prime(444)

and

3119 = P77 x 7 + P77 + 7 > 777 777


*


Also, from WTC93 on 26.2.1993 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 = 234 weeks, 1481 days


1481 = P( 234 )


= 234 weeks, P( 234 ) days


234 = P( 7 x 7 ) + 7


= 234 = P( 7 x 7 ) + 7 weeks, P( 234 = P( 7 x 7 ) + 7 ) days > 777 777


*


234 is also:

234 = 6 x 39 = 6x ( 13 + 13 + 13 ) = 6 x ( P6 + P6 + P6 )


So, 234 weerks and P( 234 ) days is:


P6+P6+P6 + P6+P6+P6 + P6+P6+P6 + P6+P6+P6 + P6+P6+P6 + P6+P6+P6 weeks


P( P6+P6+P6 + P6+P6+P6 + P6+P6+P6 + P6+P6+P6 + P6+P6+P6 + P6+P6+P6 ) days >


666 666 666
666 666 666
666 666 666
666 666 666


*


From Bush-41 Head of CIA on 30.1.1976 to WTC93 on 26.2.1993 inclusive is :

= 6238 days

6238 = 3119 + 3119 days

6238 = P(444) + P(444) > 444 444

6238 = P77x7 + P77+7 + P77x7 + P77+7


*


From Bush Head of CIA on 30.1.1976 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 inclusive is:

= 9357 days

9357 = 3119 + 3119 + 3119 days

9357 = P(444) + P(444) + P(444)

9357 = P77x7 + P77+7 + P77x7 + P77+7 + P77x7 + P77+7


Note: The yyyy.dd.mm of 9/11 = 2001.11.9 > 2+0+0+1 = 3 & 11 & 9 > 3119

*

Note: 444 = 2 x 222 and 222 = P(6 + 6) x 6


So, 444 = P(6 + 6) x 6 + P(6 + 6) x 6 > 666 666


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Operation Large - Moinul Abedin and Dr Faisal Mostafa, Birmingham, England - November 2000


J7: Operation Large

J7: Unmasking the "blowback" myth


You may well be unaware of this particular Special Branch / Mi5 production, as it preceded 9/11, in the days when the CIA/ MI6 / ISI database of freelance terrorists, Al Q, was only starting to become ingrained in the public consciousness and the only "terrorism" that the UK was witnessing, was that allegedly attributed to the "troubles" in Northern Ireland.

That particular "strategy of tension" was "wound down", just in time as it happens, as it was about to be replaced with the new globalised version that we have all since witnessed and presumably, have been terrorised by. The reflected glory of bringing about peace in Northern Ireland was taken, naturally, by Princess Tony, albeit with a few hefty reminder events as if to hurry it along the way.

It is both amazing and revealing, verging on the literally, incredible, I would say, that "peace in Northern Ireland" could be "brokered" after 30 odd years of "who is bombing who", in the training ground that was Northern Ireland, just when there were about to be more pressing matters to attend to.

Things, apparently, could only get better ...


Quote:
Throughout the six-week Birmingham trial, prosecutors admitted that they had no evidence to suggest that either defendant was a member of any terrorist organisation.



Quote:
February 2002 - Operation Large - Trial report - see J7 link

Colman Treacy QC, prosecuting, told the court there was no indication the duo, both Muslims of Bangladeshi origin, were part of a terrorist organisation. There was also no indication of their intended target.


Quote:
February 2002 - The Times

Although there is no apparent link or affiliation between Abedin and the al-Qaeda terrorist network headed by Osama bin Laden ...




Quote:
BBC February 2002

At a news conference Assistant Chief Constable Chris Sims, of West Midlands police, said officers had so far ruled out any connection between Abedin and known terrorist organisations.




Fourteen months to investigate "links to Al Q", clearly not long enough, as it took a few more years for their "belief" to surface ....


Quote:
Dame Eliza Mannigham-Buller, Mi5 DG at Queen Marys College London - 9.11.2006

We now know that the first Al-Qaida-related plot against the UK was the one we discovered and disrupted in November 2000 in Birmingham. A British citizen is currently serving a long prison sentence for plotting to detonate a large bomb in the UK.

Let there be no doubt about this: the international terrorist threat to this country is not new.

It began before Iraq, before Afghanistan, and before 9/11.





You will search for eons on t'interwebs and all you will find is that the "discovery" was from a "tip off" and "information received" ...


Whilst the good Lady's effort and helpful emphasis for the chronologically challenged, is impressive from the head of an intelligence outfit, she might have been better advised to have got her "facts" straight instead.

The chap serving a long prison sentence wasn't convicted for "plotting" anything actually, as both defendants, if you can call both of them "defendants", were mysteriously acquitted on the conspiracy charge, because otherwise, that would have meant that Mi5's Mostafa, would have had to have been found guilty of the conspiracy charge too and we couldn't have had that now could we ....

Unless, of course the Crown could have proved that the hapless Mr Abedin was conspiring with himself...


Quote:
Hansard 15 January 2007

John Reid:

I can tell the hon. Gentleman that we know now that the first AQ-related conspiracy plot in this country was in 2000, and that was in Birmingham.



So, that's officially on the Hansard record on 15.1.2007 from yet another "dodgy Doctor" ...

I mean, there's misleading the House John and John, there's misleading the House, especially after you, as Head of the Home Department, were humiliatingly forced to inform the House about a previous piece of, "dodgy information received" and promulgated in the Home Office fiction that was the July7 "narrative", regarding the mythical Luton train time fairytale, but I guess you were only "acting", on "information received" eh John ...

Did we ever find out where the "information received" actually came from, regarding the "ghost train from Luton" and the "phantom witnesses" to the ghost train from Luton on July 7th, and the phantom inquiry the police were supposed to launch as to the origins of the "ghost train" fairytale ?

No. Thought not.


DAC Peter Clarke giving "evidence" at the July 7 Inquest in February 2011. He is asked a question about a "prestigious lecture" he gave on 24.4.2007.

Operation Large is mentioned in the context of "home grown" terrorism and Clarke almost chokes on it ...


Quote:
From the "forensic" theatrical production and cosy chat that they had the nerve to call the July 7th Inquest:


Q. May I ask you, first of all, about a speech that you made -- you may know that I'm going to ask you about this -- in 2007, when you commented on the state of play in 2002 in relation to awareness of terrorist threat. This was quite a prestigious lecture you gave and I'm sure your words were carefully chosen. May I read to you what I suggest you said:

"In 2002, the perception was that, if there was a threat to the UK, its origins were overseas. The spectre of a home-grown terrorist threat was not yet with us."

Now, may I follow the normal rules and ask you if you said that?

A. I did say that, yes.

Q. Thank you. It seems to apply to agencies in the plural and, therefore, to include the police and the Security Services, is that right?

A. Well, inevitably, I can only speak for myself, but I was reflecting, obviously, the discussions and what I believed to be the perception at that time, yes.

Q. 2002 is when you came into post in a counter-terrorism role?

A. That's correct.

Q. Why did you say that then, please?

A. I said that because I was contrasting the position with that which we had reached by 2007 when I gave that lecture.

Q. Do you have any thoughts or understanding about why it was that that was the state of play in 2002?

A. Why the perception was that the threat came from -- if you could read the sentence back to me. The perception was that the threat came from overseas?

Q. Yes, of course: "The perception was that, if there was a threat to the UK, its origins were overseas. The spectre of a home-grown terrorist threat was not yet with us." Why was that the perception in 2002?

A. That was the perception in 2002 and, indeed, into part of 2003, because the focus of our investigations at that time was particularly on a very large network of Islamists, who were not British citizens, many of whom had motivations which were related to their countries of origin, and it wasn't clear whether or not they presented a threat to the United Kingdom. It did become clear, in 2003, that, in fact, they did present a very clear terrorist threat to the United Kingdom, even though they were not British citizens.

Q. Right. I'm seeking to address the home-grown threat that is UK-born terrorists to the United Kingdom, do you follow? That's what I'm seeking to address.

A. Yes.

Q. There had been, in the year 2000, a successful preemption of a bomb plot in the UK involving Islamist terrorism in the Midlands. Do you recollect this? Operation Large, July 2000, when a bomb factory was apprehended, as it were, before anything further could be done. Do you recollect that?

A. I was aware of that case, yes.

Q. I mean, that plainly was Islamist terrorism aimed at the UK, wasn't it?

[EMERGENCY !]

A. But if you are relating my comments from that lecture, Mr O'Connor, you will see the title of the lecture was "Learning from experience: counter-terrorism in the United Kingdom since 9/11 2001".

Q. Yes, and you were addressing that when talking about the state of play in 2002. Absolutely right. But there had been this incident in 2000, which surely was a wake-up call, wasn't it?

A. I can't say whether it was a wake-up call to those who were dealing with that case at that time or not. I was not.

Q. All right.

LADY JUSTICE HALLETT: So were the extremists in Birmingham home-grown?

A. I would have to -- it depends, my Lady, upon one's definition of "home-grown", and I don't want to get into the theology of this, but there's an awful lot of debate at the moment as to what is "home-grown". Is it somebody who's born in a particular country, then is radicalised elsewhere and then attacks somewhere else, or is born somewhere, then moves somewhere else and attacks? It all gets very complicated. [doesn't it just] If, in this context, we take it to mean British citizens who, for whatever reason, and through whatever course, then end up with an intention to attack the United Kingdom, I can certainly talk about cases since 2002, but here and now I can't recall whether the people involved in Operation Large in 2000 were British citizens or not.




Phew, that was close ....

Mr Patrick O'Connor then steps back in to save the day after Lady Justice Hallett's dangerous line of questioning, to divert DAC Clarke away for the glaring contradictions from the Operation Large dialogue and it's subsequent use as both the UK's first Al Q plot and it's belated use as a "wake up call" to the "threat of homegrown terrorists", but only a wake up call to "post 9/11", homegrown terrorists you understand and anyway, it depends what you mean by homegrown terorrists, I'd never even heard of the "covenant of security" me Lady, oh and it was nothing to do with me either, erm, me Lady ...

It was a wake up call but we didn't really need to wake up to the obvious wake up call, because it wasn't a wake up call at the time because Operation Large wasn't designed to be a wake up call and we only thought to use it as a wake up call after we woke up to fact that we needed to have a wake up call to the threat of homegrown terrorism, the actual wake up call came years later....and it was only then that we realised we'd missed the opportunity to call it a wake up call but anyway they might not have been homegrown terrorists because we grew one of them ourselves and anyway, the "homegrown terrorism" wake up call was on a different alarm clock that takes years to go off ....as and when we need it ....

"Squirming on an unimaginable scale"™, as DAC Clarke suffers from "indigestion" after almost being forced to swallow his own words from his lecture in direct contradiction to what the secret state, specifically, Jonathan Evans, subsequently claimed about Operation Large, as it tries to sell it's mythical slice of "homegrown terrorist cake" and is almost forced to eat it too ...


Quote:
Witness "G" from Mi5 at the July 7th Inquest in February 2011

Q. And you will want us to bear that in mind. I'm going to try to just pursue the examples through in terms of time order and I suggest the first in time actually is a domestic one, but the others are not. In broad terms, can you confirm that, in July 2000, the Security Service in something called Operation Large intercepted, in the metaphorical sense, an Islamist bomb factory in Birmingham?

A. I can.

Q. That is, granted its location, quite likely, though not certainly, to have been aimed at United Kingdom targets?

A. That's what we believed, but we don't know.




We don't know, according to "G", whoever he/she is in February 2011 ....


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Operation Large is a hugely significant case.


Operation Large was a drama that I contend, was deliberately manufactured for the sole purpose of providing the propagandists and story tellers with a terroristic, "ace in the hole", some years hence, as a contingent measure to counter the predictable and planned for, howls of "blowback", that were ringing in ever increasing volume in the ears of the itinerant, war mongering, politico marionettes and their secret state puppeteers.

I have written about this case before and most recently here in relation to it's use as the "ace in the hole" by none less that the former head of Mi5, Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller during her landmark speech at Queen Mary's College, London on 9.11.2006.

Dame Eliza was not the first to produce the Operation Large ace trump from up her spooky sleeve however. That priviledge was granted to Dr John Reid, a former incumbent on Bliar's production line of Home Secretaries, who publicly revealed the same trump card just three days after the airport scanner promotion that was the Binary Liquid Bombs nonsense at Heathrow on 9 & 10 August 2006

He had, allegedly, privately confessed the same to Holly Finch on 25 July 2006.

In between telling us all about "plots" that had alegedly been "foiled" that none if us ever get to hear about, until the time is right to tell us, the esteemed Doctor slipped this to the ever reliable repeaters at the BBC:

Quote:
BBC Sunday, 13 August 2006

Mr Reid also said the government believes the first al-Qaeda plot in the UK was in 2000 in Birmingham, preceding the war in Iraq and the 9/11 attacks.


As a muffling device, the rather belated, "ace in the hole" worked perfectly as planned. What possible counter argument could there be to, "ah but they started their "terrorism" before we even dropped a single ounce of uranium on their kith and kin in Afghanistan of Iraq ?".

I think it is quite revealing that they chose the ridiculous, manufactured Heathrow airport scanner marketing event, to reveal their metaphoric smothering, silencing blanket, as it provides an insight into the pressure that they were feeling over that particluar nonsense and the cumulative cynicism for which that fiasco proved to be an outlet for.

One poster, who according to the good Doctor Reid, was evidently one of those folk "who just don't get it", quite succinctly put it on this forum on the very day:

Quote:

Yawn. Yawn. Yawn.

Mr. Blair, we don't buy this nonsense anymore.

Haven't you heard?



Great message, aimed at the wrong target, as it wasn't the trumped up double glazing salesman that was authoring or producing the plays.

Maybe the trigger to play the card was the reflected humiliation of nursing mothers being forced to test their own baby's milk in front of "airport security", or maybe it was just a "psychological tell", as the stink from Heathrow in August 2006 seemed to reach the ears, eyes and noses, of all but the willfully deaf and blind anosmiacs and that stink was the looming trump of the public's consciousness that called for the secret state's, secret ace (sssh it's secret) to be played, before the odour that accompanies such detritus became unbearable, thus rendering the Operation Large "ace card", unplayable.

You may well ask, as many did at the time, why had it taken the state five or six years to reveal something that they had clearly known about all along ?

No answer to that question was forthcoming. One can only imagine the possible "official" answers and all would lead to incompetence at the very least.

The other possibility is the one that I posit.

Operation Large was quite obviously known about all along, as it was a bright shining point of light on the CV of Dame Eliza's assistant, Jonathan Evans, as it was reported that he had "managed" the entire case back in November 2000.

Quote:
The Times 8 March 2007

Mr Evans, 49, was in charge of the first counter-terrorist investigation in Britain to target al-Qaeda.

He was assistant director of international counter-terrorism in 2000 when MI5 and West Midlands Police uncovered a plot by a Bangladeshi born man, later found to be connected with al-Qaeda, to cause an explosion. Moinul Abedin, from Birmingham, was sentenced in February 2002 to 20 years in prison.

MI5 regards the Birmingham case as the first evidence of al-Qaeda activity in Britain.

Mr Evans’s experience of dealing with al-Qaeda in this country was one of the principal reasons he was chosen to succeed Dame Eliza.



Discounting a bout of collective amnesia, the only logical conclusion to draw, is that it's use as a trump card, was being preserved for the right moment and it was decided that the right moment was the fantastic, "binary liquids" bomb theatricals at Heathrow.

In a way, I suppose you can't blame them for playing it then really, as the Heathrow nonsense was plumbing new depths of ridiculous fantasy, even for the fantasists I suspect.

It is also revealing to realise that the Operation Large trump card wasn't played on the more obvious stage that was London in July 2005, when real bombs went off and real people were sacrificed. That was when the War of Terror really penetrated the UK's conciousness and with the concomitant cries of "blowback" emanating from the usual "shepherds of truth" subsequently infecting their flocks, who had irresistably and rather lazily been drawn into the entire Al Q paradigm, surely the stage was set for the secret state's "ace trump", Operation Large, to to be played.

So why wasn't it played back then ?.

Mi5's Dame Eliza and her replacement Joanathan Evans at least both knew about it - that is an indisputable fact of life and yet both kept it secretly hidden, from the public at least, tucked up inside their diabolical spooky sleeves.

Why ?

Needs must ? A time and a place ? Maybe the "heat" from real dead people wasn't hot enough ? The whispers of "foreign policy blowback" began on the day of September 11th, but maybe they weren't loud enough yet in the UK. Maybe it was because they knew there was more to come and such a valuable trump card should be preserved at all costs, to be played at the exact moment when it would be most effective at quelling the howls of "blowback" and thereby alter the direction and mood of the suppliant herd, whilst reinforcing the original Al Q lies.

Regardless of what I contend, nobody can argue against the plain and simple fact, that at least the secret state was aware and for absolute certainty, that Jonathan Evans was aware and possibly even some in the government too, knew about Operation Large and yet waited almost six years after the initial arrests and over four years after the singular conviction to tell us all about, in their words, "the UK's first Al Q case."

Think and work it out.

You could of course argue against my position, that Operation Large was manufactured, but from reading the few reports of the case, I think there's a good chance, that you might change your mind.


Background to Operation Large - November 2000


Having read the reports and posts linked above and searched the internet for Moinul Abedin, Dr Faisal Mostafa, Birmingham November 2000, you should have some idea of what the case was all about. If not you might like to contact Jonathan Evans at Mi5 as he will definitely be your best source.


My summary of Operation Large:


Dr Faisal Mostafa

Before getting into the events of Operation Large in November 2000, it is necessary to know about the "known knowns" of Dr Faisal Mostafa.

Dr Faisal Motafa was reported to be a PhD Chemist from Stockport and a graduate of Manchester Polytechnic, who enjoyed "experimenting with small explosions and fireworks."

Andrew Gilligan in the Evening Standard on 1st August 2005 reported that Mostafa was "a former community manager of the Darul Uloom school in Birmingham."

Quote:
November 2000 arrest - Operation Large

At Halesowen police station, where he was taken and questioned, Mostafa was alleged to have told an officer:

"I've been a fool. You'd think I'd know better after the last time."




"Last time" was on 3rd February 1995 when Mostafa was arrested along with two others in a joint Special Branch / Mi5 operation. All three were charged with conspiring to cause explosions while Mostafa faced a further charge of the illegal possession of a firearm and ammunition with intent to endanger life

The firearm was reported to have been bought from a notorious Moss Side gangster, who was later shot dead.

The ammunition was hidden inside Mostafa's mattress and the Saur self-loading pistol, hidden in Mostafa's airing cupboard.

In February 1995 when the Special Branch searched Mostafa's home, they found watches adapted as timers, electronic egg timers, igniters, various chemicals, guns, barrels, rounds of ammunition, shotgun cartridges, bullet heads, rifle primers, explosives of various sorts, a bullet-proof vest and £1,600 pair of night-sight binoculars and documents which showed how to make explosive devices, "radical Muslim newsletters", diagrams of a 20lb explosive device being placed by the roadside, a 'shopping list' of chemicals to make bombs and another list showing how supplies for homemade bombs could be found at chemists, garden shops and hardware stores.

At the conclusion of their trial on 27 March 1996 at Manchester Crown Court, all three were acquitted of the conspiracy charges but Dr Faisal Mostafa was convicted of the possession of a firearm and sentenced to four years on. His appeal appilcation was heard on 7th November 1996 but was denied.

By August 1997 he was out of prison. We know this because on 15th August 1997, Dr Faisal Mostafa posted a message on a Google Groups "explosives" message board as follows. I assume it was he, because if you look there you will see his student email address at stud.umist.ac.uk

Quote:

Source

Faisal Mostafa - Aug 15 1997, 3:00 am

YOU CAN BET YOUR LIFE THAT THE FBI, CIA, M15, MOSSAD,SPECIAL BRANCH (HI INSPECTOR CLOUGH) ARE WATCHING YOU. DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE RELATIVE CALM OF DEMOCRACY WE ARE WATCHED!. I KNOW BECAUSE I'VE MET THEM AND WELL LETS SAY HAD A VERY LONG DISCUSSION WITH THEM REGARDING EXPLOSIVES AND OTHER TOPICS.

DON'T DO ANYTHING STUPID.

TAKE THIS FROM SOMEONE WITH REAL EXPERIANCE. IT'S BETTER TO BE SAFE AND FREE THAN TO BE BEHIND BARS FOR 16-25 YEARS OR MORE.

Reply:

CMefindU - Aug 28 1997, 7:00 am

Amen !!!



Make a note of the date - 15.8.1997 - it's important.


What to make of that crucial message, which seems to have been used as the publicly declared reason for triggering Operation Large.

Assuming Faisal Mostafa had not been out of prison for long and to post a message such as this after being cleared of explosive charges reeks to high heaven.

He was sentenced to 4 years on 27.3.1996 after being arrested on 3.2.1995. I don't know if he was remanded or got bail and have no idea when he was released from "wherever he went".

The "explosive message" also throws his, "oh dear I've been a fool" statements into sharp perspective.


Security sources told the Sunday Mercury that agencies had kept an eye on his activities after he was released culminating in his arrest in Birmingham.



Moinul Abedin


Moinul Abedin was a Bangladeshi waiter and petty criminal who was involved in various low level crime like credit card scams, opening a bank account using a forged identity and was linked to a group producing false driving licences using shared business premises.

Abedin had failed to appear in court on a summons for driving without insurance and so was wanted by the police. He said those involved in the car business used different identities to avoid paying tax and VAT, which is why, he said he was using a false identity.

Abedin's brother was being taught chemistry by Dr Mostafa at the Jami Mosque in Small Heath, Birmingham which is how Abedin and Mostafa had met.


Lets make some fireworks


Abedin says he was approached by Mostafa with a scheme to make fireworks, as Mostafa knew how to make the explosive substance which they referred to as Mostafa's gunpowder and that they had talked about opening a shop and making some money.

Mostafa said he was led astray by Adedin with the idea and should have known better, "after the last time."

Anyway, whoever's idea it was, the pair procured ingredients for the manufacture of fireworks, some of which were found in a house Abedin rented and others in a lock up rented in his name.

This was the basis for the Special Branch and Mi5 to launch Operation Large in November 2000.


Operation Large

Reports on the case are comparitively few vis the volumous messages we get nowadays whenever a so called Al Q production opens.

I enquired about the trial transcripts and was told the case was "sensitive".

Mi5 employee "747" gave evidence at the trial behind screens.

Quote:
Stockport Express

21st January 2002

Trial hears computer contained bomb making material

...

The head of investigations, from MI5, gave evidence from behind a screen to protect his identity.



It is reported that a surveillance team from London were called up to Birmingham acting on information received after a "tip off".

Surveillance began on 9.11.2000, with Mi5 assiging the code names, "Molten Lava" to Mostafa and "Pivoting Dancer" to Abedin.

On 15 November, two black rubbish bags were seized from outside Abedin's rented house and were found to have traces of explosives on latex gloves, packaging for electrical items, chemical substances, packaging for tools and traces of a granular powder which later turned out to be HMTD.

It was this evidence that was used as the basis for the arrests, which were made on 17 November 2000.

Subsequent finds in Abedin's rented house included five home-made detonators, further ingredients to make HMTD, along with overalls, filter papers and other equipment for manufacturing home-made explosives, large quantities of surgical gloves, packages for chemicals including sodium chlorate (weedkiller), sulphuric acid, sulphur and lead azide, plus tools and face masks.


Yet another incriminating note found under the bed ...

Quote:
Stockport Express 15th February 2002

Doc 'enjoyed making explosives'

...

Earlier, the court heard a note aspiring to become a martyr and marrying a Mujahedin was found under the bed of Mr Abedin's bed.

When shown the note, the defendant said: "I do not recall what was there and what was not there." Mr Abedin added he did not believe he wrote the words on the document.



When Dr Mostafa was arrested at New Street station, he was carrying four computer disks containing the requisite "terrorist publications", you know the ones made in America, the Mujahideen Explosives Handbook, 'Guerilla's Arsenal: Advanced Techniques for Making Explosives and Time Delay Bombs'.

Mostafa had also written a 50 page bomb making manual.

At the police station, Mostafa said:

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'I have been a fool. You'd think I'd know better after the last time.

'I've got a lovely family and I do this for someone I hardly know and now I could go to prison. This is very serious. He's used me because of my knowledge. What do you think I should do?'



Later police found traces of the explosive HMTD chemical on his pinstripe jacket and green anorak that he was wearing.

On November 21, both Abedin and Mr Mostafa were jointly charged with unlawfully and maliciously conspiring to cause, by an explosive substances, an explosion likely to endanger property or life and doing an act with intent to cause an explosion and possessing explosive substances between October 1st and November 18th 2000

HMTD is an extremely hazardous primary high explosive, very sensitive to ignition by flame, heat, spark and friction and the 70kg seized from the lockup was reported to be only the second recorded bulk recovery of HMTD on the UK mainland.

It is not made clear in any of the trial reports where this "bulk seizure of HMTD" originated from. It is certainly not stated that Abedin manufactured it. Only the implication is there. Neither do we get to hear Abedin's response to the 70Kg of HMTD in court or from his defence counsel, Malcolm Bishop QC, who even has the trial listed on his CV as, "first ever Al Qaeda trial in UK". I wonder when that was updated...

Abedin told the court that he and his co-defendant were not plotting to make bombs, but intended to start a fireworks business.

Unfortunately for Abedin at least, the trial began in the post 9/11 frenzy in January 2002.

Both were acquitted on the conspiracy charge, the second time that Dr Faisal Mostafa had been cleared on exactly the same charges.

How the jury could have been persuaded that Moinul Abedin was the main protagonist can only be due to the "presentation" of the case in court. Maybe it was a straightforward case of there being no case to answer on the conspiracy charge, thereby forcing the acquittal of both and if there was no conspiracy then the traces of explosives and terrorist manuals in Mostafa's possession might have been rendered irrelevant.

Both were cleared of explosive possession charges too.

If there are any wealthy benefactors out there, trial transcription costs will run into thousands of pounds, such is the perilous state of our fledgling and fragile democracy and that's only if the trial Judge, The Hon. Mr Justice Hughes and / or the Lord Chancellor deign to give permission.

The situation is particularly anachronistic, given that tax payers fund the entire system and have therefore already paid for the police operation, Mi5's operation, the trial and it's players, the prisons etc etc and yet, if anyone of us wants to find out about what exactly went on in the court, you have to go begging for permission from at least the trial Judge and then, even if you are lucky, which you won't be in "sensitive cases", will have to fork out exhorbitant transcription fees yourself.

I suggested I could sit in a quiet corner and transcribe them myself and even that was denied. I'd have to ask the Judge. Why ? The trial was held in open court, which anyone could have turned up to and witnessed first hand. So why the secrecy and protection after the event ?

Something very smelly and rotten with all of that and the situation needs changing.

Mostafa was clearly relieved when the not guilty verdict was delivered and sobbed 'I can't believe it' as he left the dock.

Crocodile tears me thinks.

Moinul Abedin however, was convicted on 27 February 2002 of committing an act with intent to cause an explosion.

He was sentenced to 20 years.

I bet he "couldn't believe it" either.



Postscript

The teflon, Dr Faisal Mostafa, popped up again in July 2008 when he was arrested at Manchester Airport as he was about to board an Emirates jet bound for Bangladesh with a gun and bullets in his possession.

Remember that this is now way past 9/11 in a terroristically charged UK security environment, especially at airports, where boarding an aircraft with a dodgy CD / DVD will land you in court.

Luckily for Mostafa, yet again, prosecutors did not dispute that the items were for a "hunting and fishing trip" and he was given a 56 day prison sentence, suspended for two years.

He surfaced again in March 2009 when he was arrested in Bangladesh. (alleged pic)


Quote:
British chemist Faisal Mostafa arrested after raid on orphanage in Bangladesh

Police find arms and ammunition at sites linked to terror suspect twice freed by British courts

Helen Carter
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 26 March 2009 12.53 GMT


A British chemist who was twice cleared in the UK of plotting explosions has been arrested by anti-terrorist police in Bangladesh, after a raid on an orphanage which officers say was used as a training camp for Islamist militants.

Faisal Mostafa, 45, from Stockport, Greater Manchester, is understood to have been arrested at Dhaka airport yesterday. Four other people, including a teacher and three caretakers were arrested earlier, after the raid on the Green Crescent madrasa and orphanage on the remote southern island of Bhola. Small arms, ammunition, remote control devices and army uniforms were among the items recovered during the raid.

Bangladeshi locals told the officers the madrasa, or Islamic seminary, was a British charity financed by Mostafa, who they said had lived in Britain for 25 years. It has emerged that Mostafa, who is married with three children, was given a suspended sentence for trying to board a aeroplane at Manchester airport last November with a a gas-powered pistol in his suitcase.

In 2002, Mostafa was cleared of conspiracy to cause explosions, after a surveillance operation in Birmingham in 2000.

The Charity Commission said it was "seriously concerned" after the weapons cache was allegedly found during the raid. Andrew Hind, the chief executive of the commission, said: "We are working with relevant law enforcement and other agencies to investigate the allegation that terrorist activity is connected with the charity.

"The matter is of serious concern to us, and we are taking this action given the gravity of the matter, the public interest and the need to protect charity work and funds. We intend, as is normal procedure, to publish a statement of the results of the inquiry setting out our findings once the inquiry is completed."

As well as being acquitted of the 2002 charges, Mostafa was cleared during a trial 13 years ago of conspiring to cause explosions.

Green Crescent's website showed it was involved in projects in Bhola as well as several others around Bangladesh, and at least one in Pakistan. Students in Britain and Bangladesh founded the British-registered charity in 1998, the site says.

KM Mamunur Rashid, an officer involved in the raid, said the charity had plans to build two more madrasas, although there were no details on the charity's website. "It is a big madrasa and we have so far gathered that this whole compound is being used for militant training," he said.

Bangladeshi media reported that security forces believed the compound was used by Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh(JMB), a banned militant group.

Bangladesh, home to 154 million people, has the world's fourth-largest Muslim population, after Indonesia, India and Pakistan.

The authorities have long viewed madrasas as potential recruiting grounds for militant groups such as JMB, which was blamed for a series of bomb attacks in the country in August 2005.

More than 70 people were killed last month, including at least 57 senior army officers, in the revolt at the headquarters of the Bangladesh Rifles in Dhaka, the capital. Last week, police said suspected Islamist militants had threatened the principals of several English-language schools if they did not pay "tolls".

A spokesman from the UK counter-terrorism thinktank the Quilliam Foundation added: "If the Green Crescent charity has indeed been involved in militant activity, this will reflect very poorly on the Charity Commission, particularly given that Mostafa, the head of the charity, had previously been put on trial twice for terrorist offences. Ineffectiveness by the commission in identifying and tackling extremist charities leads to the British taxpayer directly subsiding militancy and extremism."

But a commission spokesman said the reported activities said to be run under the auspices of UK charity Green Crescent Bangladesh UK raise very serious concerns.


Quote:
"reflect very poorly on the Charity Commission ?"


Counterrorism thinktank ? Are you sure ? I assumed that they would at least be capable of, erm, thinking ...


Quote:
"Ineffectiveness by the commission in identifying and tackling extremist charities leads to the British taxpayer directly subsiding militancy and extremism."


I don't know whether to laugh or cry ...

The fact that Mostafa has a get out of jail card and is free to roam the globe, doing his "stuff", according to "the thinkers" at Quilliam, is all down to the Charity Commission ...

No. It's funny. In fact it's hilarious...


Quote:
My son is innocent, says father of Briton held on terror charges in Bangladesh

Family shock as Faisal Mostafa, head of Green Crescent charity, held after police raid on orphanage

Helen Carter, and Fariha Karim in Dhaka
guardian.co.uk, Friday 27 March 2009 13.05 GMT
Article history

The father of a British chemist arrested in Bangladesh on terror charges after a raid on an orphanage has protested his son's innocence.

Faisal Mostafa, 45, from Heaton Mersey, near Stockport, Greater Manchester was arrested after a police raid on the remote southern island of Bhola on Monday.

It has since emerged that Mostafa, who is married with three children, was given a two-year suspended sentence for trying to board an Emirates plane at Manchester airport last November with a pistol in his suitcase.

In 2002, he was cleared of conspiracy to cause explosions, a surveillance operation in Birmingham in 2000. He was cleared of another terrorist offence – conspiracy to carry out explosions – in 1996.

But Mostafa's father Ghulam, 73, a retired accountant, said he was innocent.

"He runs a small orphanage for children aged eight to 11 and a medical centre and he is not a terrorist," he said.

"The equipment they found is not for bomb-making. He's a hunter and has a licensed gun. The cartridges are expensive and he makes his own." He said Faisal had been accused of being a terrorist in the past and had been cleared of all charges by British courts.

Faisal Mostafa, who has a PhD in chemistry, is the head of the Green Crescent charity, set up by students in 1998 to carry out humanitarian work in Bangladesh.

According to his father, he travels to Bangladesh once a year to check on the workings of the orphanage.

"He has high blood pressure and a heart problem and I'm worried and so are his wife and children. I'm scared he will not get fair treatment and that is my greatest concern," he said.

Ghulam Mostafa criticised the British high commission in Dhaka, who initially denied that Faisal had been arrested. "He has dual nationality and the British high commission has told me they can't help," he added. "If he was here I would not be as worried because I know he would get a fair hearing."

His son was "a nice, hard-working boy" who had "set out to help the poor people of Bangladesh after seeing terrible suffering when he lived there as a child."

In Bangladesh, the Rapid Action Battalion said it had arrested four people, including a teacher and three caretakers. It is believed that Mostafa was arrested at Dhaka airport.

Small arms, ammunition, remote control devices and army uniforms were among the items police said they had recovered during the raid.

Mostafa's uncle, Major Haffizuddin Ahmed, a former minister for the Bangladesh Nation party, expressed his shock at the arrest.

"I felt terrible when I saw what had happened. I'm a political figure, and we feel bad that it's a family boy," he said in Dhaka. "We all asked, how could he get spoiled like this? He was a nice, good boy when he was young." Ahmed said he had not spoken to his nephew for five years.

An RAB officer, who declined to be named, said they acted on a tip-off. The raid was carried out after the madrasa, or religious seminary, had been kept under surveillance for a month.

"We watched the madrasa for a month. It looked suspicious because there were people coming and going at all times, late at night, and in madrasas, they don't allow parents to visit all the time so we knew it wasn't the mums and dads.

"We also thought it was strange that this madrasa was in such a nice area." He said they noticed it had a drawbridge that gets lifted up at night "and no other school has this kind of set-up".

A spokeswoman for the British high commissioner said: "We are aware of the report and we are working with the Bangladeshi government."

The Charity Commission said it was "seriously concerned" after the weapons cache was allegedly found during the raid. Andrew Hind, the commission's chief executive, said: "We are working with relevant law enforcement and other agencies to investigate the allegation that terrorist activity is connected with the charity."

Green Crescent's website showed that it was involved in projects in Bhola as well as several others around Bangladesh, and at least one in Pakistan.




I'd check your airing cupboard if I were you Pops ...


Quote:
Bangladesh arrests charity head behind school

By Parveen Ahmed, Associated Press

Monday, 6 April 2009

Police detained the head of a British-based charity today that funded an Islamic school in southern Bangladesh where authorities seized weapons and explosives, an official said.

Faisal Mustafa — who runs the London-based Green Crescent charity — was held for questioning along with an aide, said A.K. Azad, a spokesman for the Rapid Action Battalion, a special anti-crime force.

Mustafa's family earlier told local media he had been missing since 26 March, two days after police raided the Green Crescent Madrassah and Orphanage, about 100 kilometers (60 miles) south of the capital of Dhaka.

Police found a large cache of guns, bullets and bomb-making materials as well as books on jihad, or holy war, at the school and arrested four employees, including a religious teacher, said Mamunur Rashid, an officer who led last month's raid.

The school, which also houses orphans, was opened a few months ago in a remote area of the coastal district with funds from the Green Crescent charity, Rashid said.

Police suspect the school has links to banned militant groups, which want to establish strict Islamic rule in this Muslim-majority nation governed by secular laws.

An email and a telephone message left with the Green Crescent's British office were not immediately returned.

Britain's charity watchdog, the Charity Commission, said the group's bank account had temporarily been frozen pending the outcome of the commission's investigation into its activities.

Green Crescent describes itself as being devoted to helping "youth from poor ethnic backgrounds ... build confidence and responsibility by sports and social events."

The group, based near Manchester in northwest England, raised more than £60,000 last year, according to figures published on the Charity Commission's website.

Bangladesh has seen a spate of bomb attacks by Islamic radicals at political rallies, courts and cultural venues in recent years.

Last month, Finance Minister A.M.A. Muhith said authorities were examining the activities and sources of funding of some Islamic charities that were approved by the previous alliance government, which included two Islamic parties.


Luckily, again, for Dr Mostafa, he was bailed out by the Foreign Office, after being charged in Bangladesh, because they were "concerned about his health" and subsequently brought back to the UK, because the FO were, get this, concerned about him being tortured.

Quote:
Terror suspect Dr Faisal Mostafa free to roam streets after government brings him back to UK

EXCLUSIVE: By Justin Penrose 25/07/2010

A British terror suspect accused of running an al-Qaeda training camp abroad is back in the UK after the Government HELPED him return home.

Dr Faisal Mostafa, who has twice been acquitted of bomb plots in the UK and found guilty of two arms charges, has praised the Foreign Office for their part in securing his release from Bangladesh.

He was arrested in March last year when Bangladeshi commandos raided a remote islamist school, or madrassa, run by his UK-registered charity Green Crescent.

They claimed it was a terror training camp after recovering jihadi literature linked to al-Qaeda, ammunition, remote control devices and army uniforms.

Dr Mostafa, 46, who is said to be a chemical expert, was held in custody but released on bail in February for treatment for renal failure.

The Foreign Office then lobbied for his repatriation on health grounds amid claims he was tortured, and he returned home last month.

Last week he appeared relaxed as he went shopping with his wife in Manchester.

When confronted outside his family's £300,000 home in the affluent Heaton Mersey suburb of Stockport, Dr Mostafa insisted he had done nothing wrong - and thanked the Government for getting him back.

"I'd like to thank the British authorities who have been very helpful and nice," he said. "My arrest was politically motivated and part of the war against Islam."

Dr Mostafa, a father of three, has been linked to a series of terrorist related offences in the last 14 years. In 1996 he was acquitted of planning to cause explosions with other Manchester University students, but found guilty of illegally possessing a firearm bought from a gangster in Moss Side and jailed for four years.

In 2000 he was charged with fellow Bangladeshi Moinul Abedin of planning to cause explosions after police in Birmingham recovered a large cache of chemicals and detonators. He was cleared when it was accepted he was planning to open a fireworks shop but Abedin was jailed for 20 years.

In 2008 Dr Mostafa was given a two-year suspended jail sentence and 100 hours' community service for trying to board a Bangladesh-bound plane at Manchester with a pistol and bullet parts in his suitcase.




Belief. Beggared.


Now, if you still think that Operation Large was an "organic" case of terrorism, "homegrown" or otherwise, then I'm inclined to agree.

Organic as in nurtured and cultivated by Mi5 and homegrown, as in, nurtured and cultivated by Mi5, with the dodgy Doctor being the central character who gets a free pass everywhere he goes and gets flown home using our money, by the Foreign Office cell, because they have a sudden attack of "torture sensitivity", so he can carry on shopping...

It is illegal to commission, prepare, encourage and facilitate terrorism.

And they have the nerve to refer to this as the "UK's first Al Q case" ....


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One can only wonder as to what other cases the dodgy chemist may have been involved in ...



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The date relationships


Click here for the date relationships for Operation Large.


The post was too large !



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The DHWAV-UK post and the Madrid Peace Conference and Oslo Accords post have been updated with the following:

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From the Madrid Peace Conference on 1.11.1991 to DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 is:

= 198 weeks

= 11 x 9 + 11 x 9 weeks > 119 119


= 77 + 77 weeks, 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 days


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From the Oslo Peace Accords being signed on 13.9.1993 to DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 is:

= 704 days = 88 x 8 days > 888

704 days = 88 weeks, 88 days

704 days = P77 + 119 + 119 + 77 days

704 days = P77 + P7x7 + P7x7 + 77 days > 77 77 77 77


It is also 7x7 weeks, P8xP8 days > 77 88

P8 = 19 and 361 = 19 x 19


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The Madrid Peace Conference and Oslo Accords also produce some interesting results to other events:


The date given for Dhiren Barot allegedly "initiating the Prudential targeting package" is 2.9.2001

and therefore also, to Jonathan Evans' first day on the job as DG of Mi5 on 1st or 2nd September 2001 :



From the Madrid Peace Conference on 1.11.1991 to Jonathan Evans' 1st day on the job, normal date duration if it was 1.9.2001 and an interval if it was 2.9.2001 and therefore the same to the Dhiren Barot Prudential fairytale is:

= 118 months

118 = 59 + 59 and 59 = Prime(17) and 17 = Prime(7) - So: 59=Prime(P7) or simply, PP7

118 months = PP7 + PP7 months > 77


Note: 59 can also be expressed as 7 7's :

59 = 42 + 17

= 6x7 + P7

= 7+7+7+7+7+7+P7




From the Oslo Peace Accords being signed on 13.9.1993 to Jonathan Evans' 1st day on the job, inclusive if it was 1.9.2001, or normal date duration if it was 2.9.2001 - the same day that it was alleged by the story tellers that Dhiren Barot initiated the "Prudential targeting package" which is quite probably code speak for Jonathan Evans starting work as DG of Mi5, is:

= 2911 days

= P( 119 ) + P( 119 ) + P( 119 ) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days


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al-Askari Mosque, Samarra, Iraq


See also: Iraq 2003

and: Salah ad Din Governorate

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Salah al-Din Province

... the province is named after the world famous Salahaddin, a Tikrit native who founded the Ayyubid Dynasty. He is famous for defeating the Crusaders in Jerusalem and his longstanding rivalry with Richard the Lionheart.



and: Deconstructing Iraq: al-Askari Mosque

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The bombing of the Askari mosque was a highly professional operation that required many hours of preparation. According to the new Iraqi Construction Minister, demolition charges had been placed within the four supporting stone pillars. Cores had to be drilled into the pillars, which would have taken at least four hours to complete. We are expected to believe this was the work of fundamentalist Sunni insurgents, who managed to perform this task without arousing suspicion or attracting attention. In fact, eyewitnesses claimed the bombing had been carried out by gunmen wearing Police Commando uniforms.


Wikipedia: Al-Askari Mosque

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Al ‘Askarī Mosque or the ‘Askariyya Mosque/Shrine (Arabic: مرقد الامامين علي الهادي والحسن العسكري‎ Marqad al-Imāmayn ‘Alī l-Hādī wa l-Ħassan al-‘Askarī) is a Shī‘ah Muslim holy site located in the Iraqi city of Sāmarrā 125 km (78 mi) from Baghdad.

It is one of the most important Shī‘ah mosques in the world, built in 944.

Its dome was destroyed in a bombing by Sunni extremists in February 2006 and its two remaining minarets were destroyed in another bombing in June 2007, causing widespread anger amongst Shī‘ah Muslims.

The remaining clock tower was also destroyed in July 2007.[citation needed]

The remains of the 10th and 11th Shī‘ah Imāms, ‘Alī al-Hādī ("an-Naqī") and his son Hasan al-‘Askarī, known as: al-‘Askariyyain ("the two ‘Askarīs"), rest at the shrine. Also buried within the Mosque are: Hakimah Khātūn, sister of ‘Alī al-Hādī; and Narjis Khātūn, the mother of Muħammad al-Mahdī. Adjacent to this shrine is another mosque, built over the location where the Twelfth or "Hidden" Imām, Muħammad al-Mahdī first entered the Minor Occultation.

The ‘Askariyya Shrine is also known as the "Tomb or Mausoleum of the Two Imāms", "the Tomb of Imāms ‘Alī al-Hādī and Hasan al-‘Askarī" and "al-Hadhratu l-‘Askariyya".

Time magazine reported at the time of the 2006 bombing that:

al-Askari [is] one of Shi'ite Islam's holiest sites, exceeded in veneration only by the shrines of Najaf and Karbala. Even Samarra's Sunnis hold al-Askari in high esteem. The expression 'to swear by the shrine' is routinely used by both communities".



Wikipedia: 22.2.2006 al-Askari Mosque bombing

Quote:
On February 22, 2006, at 6:55 a.m. (0355 UTC), explosions occurred at al-Askari Mosque, effectively destroying its golden dome and severely damaging the mosque.

Several men, one wearing military uniforms, had earlier entered the mosque, tied up the guards there and set explosives, resulting in the blast. Two bombs were set off by five to seven men dressed as personnel of the Iraqi special forces who entered the shrine during the morning.




Wikipedia: 13.6.2007 al-Askari Mosque bombing

Quote:
The bombing

At around 9 a.m. on June 13, 2007, insurgents destroyed the two remaining ten-story tall golden minarets flanking the ruins of the dome of the Al-Askari Mosque. The mosque compound and minarets had been closed since the 2006 bombing and no fatalities were reported. Iraqi police reported hearing "two nearly simultaneous explosions coming from inside the mosque compound at around 9 a.m." Local residents reported blasts that shook the city and sent a cloud of dust into the air.

While it has been stated that "the collapse of the two minarets appeared to have been caused by explosive charges placed at their bases", different reports have caused some confusion as to whether bombs were actually used. A release from state run Iraqia Television stated that "local officials said that two mortar rounds were fired at the two minarets", in addition "a government spokesman claimed the minarets were hit by rockets".


Note: "Insurgents" is a Wiki word- not mine.


Now, I wonder who would want to dress up in Iraqi military uniforms and destroy an ancient, holy Mosque, revered by Shī‘ah and Sunni alike and sign it with some pathetic numerology, "projecting" it back to the psyop Jihad ?


From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to the first bombing of the al-Askari Mosque on 22.2.2006 is:

= 3470 days

3470 days = P( 357 ) + 357 + 357 + 357 days

3470 days = P( 119 + 119 + 119 ) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days



From the first bombing of the al-Askari Mosque on 22.2.2006 to the second bombing on 13.6.2007 is:

= 476 days

476 days = 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days



From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to the second bombing of the al-Askari Mosque on 13.6.2007 is:

= 3946 days


3946 days =P( 357 ) + 357 + 357 + 357 + 357 + 119 days

3946 days = P( 119 + 119 + 119 ) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days


Note:

The Prime(357) or 2399 day root to both of these events is because that's the duration between the Jihad and the invasion of Iraq.


Therefore, the remaining 119 multiples are from the start of Iraq on 19.3.2003

as in:

From 19.3.2003 to the 1st al-Askari bombing = 1071 days = 9 x 119 days

and

From 19.3.2003 to the 2nd al-Askari bombing = 1547 days = 13 x 119 days




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Date relationships for Operation Large


Main post: Operation Large


The date relationships


Think: 9/11 and London 7.7 had not even happened yet ...


Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997


From Bush-41 inaugurated on 20.1.1989 to the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 is an interval of:

= 3128 days

3128 days = 911 + P( 119 ) + 911 + P( 119 ) days > 911 119 911 119



From Princess Tony's first day in his Wendy House on 2.5.1997 to the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 is:

= 7+7 weeks, 7 days



From the previous time Dr Mostafa was arrested for explosives on 3.2.1995 to the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 is:

= 924 days = 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 days

or 7+7+7 weeks, 777 days > 777 777


From Dr Faisal Mostaf's previous escape on explosive charges and his conviction of the illegal firearm charge on 27.3.1996 to the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 is:

= 506 days = 253 + 253 days and 253 = 11 x P9

506 days = 11 x P9 + 11 x P9 days > 119 119


Quote:
I don't know about you, but I had not even heard of the so-called Jihad back in August 1997 and neither had most of the world I suspect.

Some folk clearly had "heard of it" though and imo, were already "shaking the kaleidoscope" and "acting" on it already ...

even though it was only 119 + 119 + 119 days old ....




From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 is:

11 months 23 days and 23 = Prime(9) or P9

= 11 m, P9 d > 119

it is also = 51 weeks = P7 + P7 + P7 weeks > 777

it is also = 357 days = 119 + 119 + 119 days

= P7 x 7 + P7 x 7 + P7 x 7 days > 77 77 77


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to the date of the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 is:

= 91 weeks, 91 days

= 77+ 7+7 w, 77+ 7+7 d > 77 77 77 77

which is also = 14 months, P( 14 ) weeks

= 7+7 m, P( 7+7 ) w > 77 77

43=Prime(14)



From the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 is:

= 1488 days

1488 days = 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 days



From the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 to London on 7.7.2005 is:

= 77 months, 77 weeks



From the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 to Dame Eliza at Queen Marys on 9.11.2006 where she claimed this was the UK's first Al Q case is:

= 3373 days

3373 = P( 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 ) days



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9.11.2000 Surveillance started by Mi5 / Special Branch


Note: 9.11.2000 was the same day that Cressida Dick was promoted to Commander.


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to the Mi5 surveillance starting on 9.11.2000 is:

= 51 months, 51 weeks = P7 + P7 + P7 w, P7 + P7 + P7 d > 777 777


From the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 to the Mi5 surveillance starting on 9.11.2000 inclusive is:

1183 days = P7 + P77 + 777 days


From surveillance starting on 9.11.2000 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 is:

= 306 days = 17x17+17 days = P7 x P7+ P7 days > 777


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15.11.2000 - two rubbish bags seized

Initial reports has this as the 15th with subsequent BBC reports et al saying it was the 14th.


From the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 to the rubbish bags being seized on 15.11.2000 is:

= 1188 days = P77 + 7 + P77 + 7 + P77 + 7 > 777 777 777


From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to the rubbish bags being seized on 15.11.2000 is an interval of:

1544 days

1544 days = 777 + 777 days


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Arrests on 17.11.2000


From the previous time Dr Mostafa was arrested on 3.2.1995 to being arrested again with his protege, Moinul Abedin on 17.11.2000 is an interval of:

= 2113 days

2113 days = P( 253 ) + 253 + 253

253 = 11 x 23 and 23 = Prime(9) or P9

2113 days = P( 11 x P9 ) + 11 x P9 + 11 x P9 days > 119 119 119


From the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 to the arrests on 17.11.2000 is:

= 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days > 10 x P7 x 7 = 10 pairs of 77


From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to the arrests on 17.11.2000 is:

= 119 weeks, 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days > 77 77 77 77 77 77 77


or in days:

= 1547 days

1547 days = 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days



From the arrests on 17.11.2000 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 is an interval of:

= 297 days

= 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 days > 119 119 119



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Charged on 21.11.2001


From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to the charges on 21.11.2000, inclusive is:

= 1552 days

1552 days = 7x7x7 + P(77+7) + 7x7x7 + P(77+7) days


From being charged on 21.11.2000 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 is:

= 294 days

294 days = 7x7 + 7x7 + 7x7 + 7x7 + 7x7 + 7x7 days


From being charged on 21.11.2000 to London on 7.7.2005 is an interval of:

= 1688 days = 911 + 777 days


From being charged on 21.11.2000 to Moinul Abedin's conviction on 27.2.2002 is an interval of:

= 462 days

= 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 days



Offence Window from 1.10.2010 to 18.11.2000


From the start of the offence window on 1.10.2000 to 18.11.2000 inclusive is:

= 49 days = 7x7 days > 77


From the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 to 1.10.2000 is:

= 1143 days = 127 x 9 = P31 x 9 = PP11 x 9 days > 119


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to 1.10.2000 is:

= 1871 days = P( 286 ) = P( 227+ 59 ) = P( P(7x7) + PP7 ) days > 777


From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to 1.10.2000 is an interval of:

= 49m 7d = 7 x 7 m, 7 d > 777


From the start of the offence window on 1.10.2000 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 is an interval of:

= 11 months, 9 days > 119


From the end of the offence window on 18.11.2000 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 is:

= 297 days = 11 x 9 + 11 x 9 + 11 x 9 days > 119 119 119



Trial starts on 15.1.2002 and ends on with Mostafa walking again and Moinul Abedin convicted on 27.2.2002


Fom the Mi5 surveillance starting on 9.11.2000 to the start of the trial on 15.1.2002 inclusive is:

= 433 days = P( 77+ 7 ) days > 777

or = 7+7 months, 7 days > 777



Fom the Mi5 surveillance starting on 9.11.2000 to the conviction of Moinul Abedin on 27.2.2002 inclusive is:

= 476 days

476 days = 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days



Fom 9/11 on 11.9.2001 to the trial starting on 15.1.2002 is: = 126 days = 119 + 7 days = 7 x P7 + 7 days > 777


From 9/11 on 11.9.2001 to the conviction of Moinul Abedin on 27.2.2002 is an interval of:

= 168 days

= 77+7 + 77+7 days > 777 777


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to the conviction of Moinul Abedin on 27.2.2002 is an interval of:

= 2384 days

= P( 119 + 119 ) + P( 119 ) + 119 + 119 days



Statements claiming Operation Large was the UK's first "Al Q" case


Mi5 DG Dame Eliza Mannigham-Buller at Queen Marys College on 9.11.2006


See also: Mi5 Events


Mi5's transcript of Dame Eliza's Queen Marys speech on 9.11.2006


"As above and so, below..."


From the Google Groups "explosives" message on 15.8.1997 to 9.11.2006 is:

= 3373 days

3373 = P( 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 ) days


From Mi5 surveillance starting on 9.11.2000 to 9.11.2006 is:

= 6 years = 66+6 months > 666


It is also an interval of:

= 57 months, 57 weeks, 57 days

= P8+P8+P8 m, P8+P8+P8 w, P8+P8+P8 d > 888 888 888


From Moinul Abedin's conviction on 27.2.2002 to 9.11.2006 is an interval of:

= 1715 days


1715 days = 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 days > 777 777 777 777 777

and normal date duration is:

= 1716 days

1716 = 2 x 858 = 2 x 99 + 253 + 253 + 253 and 253 = 11 x P9

1716 days = 11x9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11x9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 days > 119 119 119 119 119 119 119 119


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to 9.11.2006 ( stand by your beds! ) is:

= 11 years, PP9 days > 119

83 = Prime(23) and 23 = Prime(9) - So: 83 = P(P9) or simply, PP9


It is also:


= 4101 days


4101 = 3 x 1367 and 1367 = P(219) and 219 = 3 x 73 = 3 x P(21)


4101 days = P( P( 7+7+7 ) + P( 7+7+7 ) + P( 7+7+7 ) ) + P( P( 7+7+7 ) + P( 7+7+7 ) + P( 7+7+7 ) ) + P( P( 7+7+7 ) + P( 7+7+7 ) + P( 7+7+7 ) ) days

> 777 777 777 777 777 777 777 777 777 (9 lots of 777)


Also:


4101 = 3 x 1367 and 1367 = 777 + 77x7 + P7+P7+P7


4101 days = 777 + 77x7 + P7+P7+P7 + 777 + 77x7 + P7+P7+P7 + 777 + 77x7 + P7+P7+P7 days

> 777 777 777 777 777 777 777 777 777 (9 lots of 777)


Also:


4101 = 3 x 1367 and 1367 = 653 + 714 and 653 = P( 119 ) and 714 = 6 x 119

4101 days = P( 119 ) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + P( 119 ) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + P( 119 ) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days


Each 119 = P7x7 so 4101 > 7+7+7 lots of 77 > 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77


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From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to 9.11.2006 is:

= 3730 days

3730 = 3373 + 357 = P(476) + 357

3370 days = P( 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 ) + 119 + 119 + 119 days > 7 lots of P7x7 > 77 77 77 77 77 77 77



Now you know why it was billed as a "landmark speech" and why it was supposed to be very, very scary.



Home Secretary - John Reid HoC Oral Answer on 15.1.2007


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to 15.1.2007 is:

= 521 weeks, 521 days

521 = Prime( 98 )

= P( 7x7 + 7x7 )w, P( 7x7 + 7x7 ) d > 77 77 77 77


*


From the Google Groups "explosive" message on 15.8.1997 to 15.1.2007 is:

= 113 months

= 7x7 + 8x8 months > 77 88


*


From the start of Mi5's surveillance on 9.11.2000 to 15.1.2007 is:

= 2258 days

2258 = 2 x 1129 and 1129 = 653 + 476

2258 days = P( 119 ) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + P( 119 ) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days


*


From 9/11 on 11.9.2001 to 15.1.2007 inclusive is:

= 1953 days or 279 weeks

1953 days = 7 x 279 and 279 = P11 x 9

1953 days = P11x9 + P11x9 + P11x9 + P11x9 + P11x9 + P11x9 + P11x9 days > 119 119 119 119 119 119 119


*


From London 7.7.2005 to 15.1.2007 is an interval of:

= 77 weeks, P7 days> 777


*


From Moinul Abedin's conviction on 27.2.2002 to 15.1.2007 is:

= 49 months, 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 days

= 7x7m, 7x7 + 7x7 + 7x7 + 7x7 + 7x7 + 7x7 days > 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 > (7 lots of 77)


which is also:

= 51 months, P(51) days

233 = Prime(51)

= P7+P7+P7 m, P( P7+P7+P7 ) d > 777 777


or an interval of:

= 1782 days

1782 days = P( 119 ) + P( 119 ) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days > 77 77 77 77 77 77


1782 days is also:

1782 = 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 days



Madrid & Oslo Middle East "Peace" initiatives



The Madrid Peace Conference and Oslo Accords also produce some interesting results:


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From the Madrid Peace Conference on 1.11.1991 to Jonathan Evans "initiating Mi5's targeting package" of Moinul Abedin in his Operation Large case and thereby, initiating "Britain's first Al Q case" on 9.11.2000 - the same day that Cressida Dick was promoted to Commander, is:


= 77+7 months, 7x7x7 + P77+7 days > 777 777 777

739 days = 343 + 396 = 7x7x7 + P77 + 7


From the Oslo Peace Accords being signed on 13.9.1993 to Jonathan Evans "initiating Mi5's targeting package" of Moinul Abedin in Operation Large on 9.11.2000 inclusive is:

= 2615 days

= P( 119 ) + P ( 119 ) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days


*

From the Madrid Peace Conference on 1.11.1991 to Mi5's man, Dr Faisal Mostafa "initiating" the Google Groups "explosives" message to provide the (not so very loudly) publicly stated reason for Operation Large starting on 15.8.1997 is an interval of:

= 2113 days

2113 days = P( 253 ) + 253 + 253 days


2113 days = P( 11 x P9 ) + 11 x P9 + 11 x P9 days > 119 119 119


From the Oslo Peace Accords being signed on 13.9.1993 to Mi5 / Mostafa's Google Groups "explosive" message on 15.8.1997 inclusive is:

= 1433 days

1433 = Prime( 227 ) and 227 - Prime( 49 ) - So: 1433 = Prime(P49) or simply PP49

1433 days = PP( 7x7 ) days



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London Underground Bombings 7.7.2005 and the Inquest Verdict on 6.5.2011


See also: DHWAV-UK and London 7.7.2005

and London 7.7.2005 towards the end of this post.

and The Madrid Peace Conference, the Oslo Accords, DHWAV-UK, 9/11, London 7/7 and Madrid 11/3

Link: July 7th Inquest

J7: The Inquest


Lady Justice Hallet unveiled her coroner's Rule 43 Report into the July 7th London Bombings, announcing her findings and verdict of "unlawful killing" on 6th May 2011.


From London 7.7.2005 to the July 7 Inquest verdict on 6.5.2011 is:

= 49 months, 49 weeks, 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 days


I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that is:

= 7x7 m, 7x7 w, 7x7 + 7x7 + 7x7 + 7x7 + 7x7 + 7x7 days


or, in months and days is:

= 49 months, 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 + 49 days




Numerologically = 7+7 lots of 7x7 = 343 + 343 = 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 > 777 777




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The indelible imprint of Zion in London on 7.7.2005

Note: numerologically 7.7.2005 > 777 as in: 7.7 and 2+0+0+5 = 7 > 777


And this is the indelible proof of Zion's imprint in London on 7.7.2005:


From the "Jihad" on 23.8.1996 to London 7.7.2005 is:

= 3240 days

3240 = 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 77 + 2701 days


7x77 > 777 and Zion = 2701:


2701 = 37 x 73 = 666 + 666 + 666 + 703 - see Star of David


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For another conjunction of 37 and 73 see Mi5 Events vis Jonathan Evans, who, I'm pretty sure, isn't a Muslim ...


And the Roshonara Choudhry event on Israel's 62nd birthday, also incorporating 119s on an unimaginable scale ™ ...

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Note also: the Y.DD.M (reverse US date format) of 9/11 is 1119 = 373 + 373 + 373


37 and 73 forwards and backwards, 37 and 73 through and through, like a stick of rock ...


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3 digit repdigits, 37 and 73 and the Star of David


You may now, like to avail yourself of the significance of Star Numbers.

Specifically, but not only, 37 and 73 and their product, 2701 in the context of the Star of David and the implicit, empirical relationship of the number 37 with all of the 3 digit repdigits.


The 3 digit repdigits numbers are:

111, 222, 333, 444, 555, 666, 777, 888, 999


The number 37 holds the key to all of these 3 digit repdigits and 37 is also the number that is the starting point for making the first, proper, Star of David.


For example:

111 - add the digits together as in: 1+1+1 = 3


Then multiply the sum of the individual digits in the 3 digit repdigit number, by 37, to get the 3 digit repdigit result as follows:


111 = 1+1+1 = 3 x 37 = 111

222 = 2+2+2 = 6 x 37 = 222

333 = 3+3+3 = 9 x 37 = 333

444 = 4+4+4 = 12 x 37 = 444

555 = 5+5+5 = 15 x 37 = 555

666 = 6+6+6 = 18 x 37 = 666

777 = 7+7+7 = 21 x 37 = 777

888 = 8+8+8 = 24 x 37 = 888

999 = 9+9+9 = 27 x 37 = 999


So, every 3 digit repdigit number that we see as signatures in these events can be interpreted, on their own, as an imprint of Zion.


Those that have been following really closely may have noticed the special significance of 444 in relation to 37 and 322 with Bush at the CIA, WTC93 and 9/11 ...


More on 37 trivia here.



322 - Skull and Bones, 37 and 119


Note: Prime Numbers, Prime Factors and Prime Factor Totals are used as the basis for encryption algorithms.


The number 37 = Prime(12) = Prime( 3x2x2 ) - one of the interpretations of the Skull and Bones number 322.

Another interpretation of 322 is that the sum of it's Prime Totals is 119 as follows:


322 Prime Factors are: 322 = 2 x 7 x 23

2 = Prime(1), 7 = Prime(4) and 23 = Prime(9)

So, 322 = P1 x P4 x P9


The frist 9 Prime Numbers are:

P1 = 2 - Prime Sum Total = 2

P2 = 3 - Prime Sum Total = 2+3 = 5

P3 = 5 - Prime Sum Total = 2+3+5 = 10

P4 = 7 - Prime Sum Total = 2+3+5+7 = 17

P5 = 11 - Prime Sum Total = 2+3+5+7+11 = 28

P6 = 13 - Prime Sum Total = 2+3+5+7+11+13 = 41

P7 = 17 - Prime Sum Total = 2+3+5+7+11+13+17 = 58

P8 = 19 - Prime Sum Total = 2+3+5+7+11+13+17+19 = 77

P9 = 23 - Prime Sum Total = 2+3+5+7+11+13+17+19+23 = 100


So for 322, with Prime Factors of 2 x 7 x 23 = P1 x P4 x P9, the Prime Sum Total is:


P1 = 2 - sum of Prime Totals = 2

P4 = 7 - sum of Prime Totals = 17

P9 = 23 - sum of Prime Totals = 100


Sum of all Prime Factor Totals for 322 is: = 2 + 17 + 110 = 119


So, it is entirely reasonable to suggest and observe that the Skull and Bones number 322 carries a very well hidden 119.


Quote:
I explained all of this once to a Jewish friend of mine and she replied:

"Well maybe Al Qaeda know the codes and are using them to try to set up Bush and Israel"




Chair. Off. Fell ...

Which is also, saying it backwards ...


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The post on the Roshanara Choudhry "the lone knife woman" ™ and the "internet radicalisation" and "politician assassination script, has been updated with lots more information, incorporating 119s on an unimaginable scale ™ and this:


Quote:


Stephen Timms, MP was born on 29.7.1955

From Stephen Timms' birth on 29.7.1955 to Roshonara Choudhry being "tuned in, turned on and dropping out" of college on 27.4.2010 is:

= P(119) months, 119 days




and


Quote:
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Registrar: WEB COMMERCE COMMUNICATIONS LIMITED DBA WEBNIC.CC
Whois Server: whois.webnic.cc
Referral URL: http://www.webnic.cc
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Expiration Date: 05-dec-2012




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From the creation of the rabbinical scholar, Joseph Cohen's honey pot website, "revolutionmuslim.com" on 5.12.2007 to the Roshanara Choudhry event on 14.5.2010 is:

= 891 days


891 days = 9 x 11 x 9 days

891 days = 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 days

891 days = P(119) + 119 + 119 days



and

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Andrew Pennington and Nigel Jones MP - 28.1.2000

You may recall the previous time a Member of Parliament was attacked in his constituency surgery with a bladed weapon, when, sadly, Nigel Jones' assistant, Andrew Pennington died, when he stepped in to help his MP, during the attack by Robert Ashman with a Samurai sword on 28.1.2000.


From the attack on Andrew Pennington and Nigel Jones, MP, on 28.1.2000 to Roshonara Choudhry being "tuned in, turned on and dropping out" of college on 27.4.2010 is an interval of:

= 119 months, 119 days


From the attack on Andrew Pennington and Nigel Jones MP on 28.1.2000 to Roshonara Choudhry attacking Stephen Timms, MP, on 14.5.2010 is an interval of:

= 3758 days

3758 days = P( 119 + 119 ) + P( 119 + 119 ) + P( 119 ) + 119 days




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Nigel Jones, now, Baron Jones of Cheltenham, was first elected MP at the 1992 General Election on 9.4.1992

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The Lord Jones of Cheltenham

Member of Parliament for Cheltenham

In office: 9 April 1992 – 5 May 2005




From Nigel Jones first being elected MP on 9.4.1992 to the attack on him at his constituency surgery, by Robert Ashman on 28.1.2000 is:

= 2850 days = 2 x 1425

2850 days = P(119) + (P119) + 119 + P(119) + (P119) + 119 days




Planned, scripted and mind controlled ...


Twice ?



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Lady Diana Spencer, Dodi Al Fayed and Henri Paul - 31.8.1997

Not forgetting the injured bodyguard, Trevor Rees-Jones.


Diana married Prince Charles on 29.7.1981

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Diana and Dodi and Henri, died on 31.8.1997

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On 31 August 1997, Diana was fatally injured in a car crash in the Pont de l'Alma road tunnel in Paris, which also caused the death of her boyfriend, Dodi Fayed and their driver, Henri Paul.



From Diana's marriage into Royalty on 29.7.1981 to her death, along with Dodi Al Fayed and Henri Paul, on 31.8.1997 is:

= 5877 days = P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) days




5877 days = 9 x P(119) and Prime(119) = 653 x 9 = 5877

Remember that each 119 is a seven seven, 77, as follows: 119 = 17x7 = P7 x 7 > 77



In numerology, (not date arithmetic), this is: 9 x 119 > 9119


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The short post on the Oklahoma City bombing, in the middle of this post (to be expanded) and the Oslo, Anders Breivik post have both been updated with this:

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From one, alleged, "right wing-nut patsy" in Oklahoma City on 19.4.1995 to another alleged "right wing-nut patsy" in Oslo on 22.7.2011 is:

= 5938 days = 2 x 2969

5938 days = P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + 119 + 119 + 119 + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + 119 + 119 + 119 days






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Lady Diana Spencer - 1.7.1961 to 31.8.1997


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Diana Spencer was born in the late afternoon on 1 July 1961, in Sandringham, Norfolk.



From Diana Spencer's birth on 1.7.1961 to her death in the early hours of 31.8.1997, is = 13210 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date.


Note the margin of error in the displayed results of the date calculator.

The date calculator always counts the first day as day 1, so, if Diana had lived beyond the hour of her birth on the day of 31.8.1997 it would indeed be 13210 days, as 31.8.1997 was the 13210 th day of her life, but that number of complete days would only have been reached, whenever "late afternoon" was on the 1.7.1961.



In full days, therefore, Diana's life can be measured as 13209 full calendar days, or, had seen the sun rise and set, 13209 times.

No more and no less.

Which is why it is normally referred to as an interval.


13209 days = 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 days


or 17 x 777 days = P7 x 777 > 7777


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The Murder of John Lennon - 8.12.1980


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"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.

I think we’re being run by maniacs for maniacal ends.

I think I’m liable to be put away as insane for expressing that.

That’s what’s insane about it."


John Lennon, Interview BBC-TV (June 22, 1968)



Wikipedia: The US vs John Lennon

Site: The US vs John Lennon

The film: Watch / Download

Watch the film, it's very informative.


The CIA mind programming operation known as MKULTRA is widely acknowledged to have begun on 13.4.1953


As many suspect, John Lennon was murdered on 8.12.1980, by the "Manchurian candidate", Mark David Chapman.


From the "official" start of MKULTRA on 13.4.1953 to the murder of John Lennon on 8.12.1980 is: = 10101 days


10101 days = 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 + 777 days




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Operation Guava - UK "Landmarks Plot" = 911 weeks from the USA's NYC Landmarks Plot


A headline that Duncan Gardham and Vikram Dodd won't be writing anytime soon ...


Original post is here

911forum thread is here

J7 thread is here

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Operation Guava followed on from what someone at the BBC described as the "fruitless" Operation Aragorn raids, planned and executed, with a-plum, by Staffordshire Police and West Midlands "Counter" Terrorism Unit = Mi5 in the Midlands = WMCTU.


Just to be clear, the word "Counter" in the phrase, "Counter Terrorism", is supposed to mean that that their taxpayer funded efforts are focussed on "countering" terrorism and not fabricating terrorism, or dramas that might look and sound like terrorism to those that have their ears and eyes closed, where no actual terrorism actually exists.

Just to be clear.

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From the original post made at the time of the Op Guava arrests on 20.12.2010, it is clear that the Op Guava arrests in the UK Landmarks Plot were made after an interval of 911 weeks from the USA's NYC Landmarks Phantom Plot that never was, target date of 4.7.1993.

The phantom "NYC Landmarks Plot" alleged target date of 4.7.1993 was the 1782 nd day of the root event for the DHWAV-UK root date, - that being, Bush-41's 1000 Points of Light speech on 18.8.1988.

1782 days = P(119) + P(119) + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days


Recycling old rubbish and a "dumbed down" brain washed populace with the attention span of a forgetful goldfish, constitutes "success" in the War of Terrorism ....


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Operation Aragorn dates:

Over 100 police raid 4 homes on 1.7.2008 - no arrests

CPS & Staffs Police announce "case closed" on 25.2.2010

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Operation Guava dates:


London sightseeing trip: 28.11.2010

Meetings: 7.12.2010 and 12.12.2010

Arrests: 20.12.2010

Charges: 27.12.2010

Goodyear "convictions" 1.2.2012

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Operation Guava alleged targets

Note: None of these allegations have been tested in court, so, they remain exactly that. Allegations. They could have told us that Father Christmas was a "target" and the Duncan Gardhams and Vikram Dodds of the media world would have printed it.

I wonder how much this "operation" cost at the second bite of the ridiculous and incredible cherry, sorry Guava ...

Low hanging fruit ? Inspiring stuff indeed ...

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Palace of Westminster

Westminster Abbey

Big Ben - see here for why Big Ben pops up so often whenever some targeted Muslim chaps go sightseeing in London.

US Embassy


London Stock Exchange - loo bomb target date 24.12.2010

The London Stock Exchange was previously attacked, allegedly by the IRA on 20.7.1990.


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Al-Qaeda inspired radicals arrested FOUR days before they planned to plant bombs in London Stock Exchange toilets Source


Phew - that was close !

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...however at the time of the arrest no materials had been obtained nor firm dates had been set. Source


Phew, that wasn't close at all then ...

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The new LSE was opened in Paternoster Square by HMQ on 27.7.2004


Mayor Boris Johnson

Boris Johnson born on 19.6.1964

Work and / or home addresses. City Hall opened by HMQ on 23.7.2002. Elected GLA Mayor on 1.5.2008 and in office on 4.5.2008.

It seems that the data for Boris' new house purchase in Colebrooke Row, London N1, reported as being completed variously between April and June 2009 for £2.3 million, is not included in the publicly available, t'interwebs extractions from the Land Registry's dataset, which funnily enough, is also called INSPIRE, so we have no way of knowing the possible root date for the "home address" target claim ...

There's one chance of finding it and that would be to know the door number, which I don't, so a bit of a cul-de-sac.


Dean of St Pauls Cathedral

At the time, the Dean of St Pauls was Graeme Knowles, who was "installed" as Dean on 1.10.2007 after Letters Patent were issued on 20.9.2001 (the day before DAC Peter Clarke announced his retirement)


Scientology London HQ

New HQ in Queen Victoria Street, London - opened 22.10.2006 - Clear ?


The London Eye

Inaugurated by Princess Bliar on 31.12.1999

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Operation Guava arrests on 20.12.2010


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Operation Guava arrests on 20.12.2010


From the Op Guava "fruitless" raids on 1.7.2008 is: = 903 days = 7 x P(7+7) + 7 x P(7+7) + 7 x P(7+7) > 777 777 777


From the CPS / Staffs Police closing down the fruitful Op Guava's "fruitless" forerunner, Op Aragorn on 25.2.2010 is an interval of: 297 days

297 days = 11 x 9 + 11 x 9 + 11 x 9 days > 119 119 119


From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 = 14 years 17 weeks = 7+7 y, P7 w > 777 or 7+7 y, P7x7 d > 77 77


From the USA NYC Landmarks Plot target date of 4.7.1993 is an interval of: = 911 weeks and is also an interval of: = 17 years, 17 + 7 weeks > 911 and 777


From the convictions of their colleagues in Islam4uk on 11.1.2010 over their demonstration at the homecoming parade of the 2nd Bttn., The Royal Anglican Regt., "The Poachers" on 10 March 2009 in Luton is:

= 11 months 9 days or 343 days = 7x7x7 days > 119 and 777


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 = 7+7 years, 7+7 months, 7x7 + 7+7 days > 77 77 77 77


From the inauguration of the London Eye on 31.12.1999 is an interval of: = 107 months, 107 weeks and 107 = Prime( 28 ) = 7+7+7+7 m, 7+7+7+7 w > 7777 7777


From the opening of Scientology's new HQ on 22.10.2006 is an interval of: = 1519 days = 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 + 7x7xP7 days > 777 777 777


From the Dean of St Pauls installed on 1.10.2007 is : = 1176 days or 77+7 + 77+7 weeks > 777 777

1176 days = 77+7 + 77+7 + 77+7 + 77+7 + 77+7 + 77+7 + 77+7 + 77+7 + 77+7 + 77+7 + 77+7 + 77+7 + 77+7 + 77+7 days

and is also: = 19 + 19 months, 19 days = P8 + P8 m, P8 d > 888


From Boris Johnson born on 19.6.1964 is an interval of: = 558 months = P11 x 9 + P11 x 9 months > 119 119

or an interval of: = 16984 days = 22 x 772 = 22 x P(119) + 119

=P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+ P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119

+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+ P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119+P(119)+119 days


With each 119 being P7x7 > 77




Op Guava Goodyear "Convictions" 1.2.2012


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Op Guava Goodyear "Convictions" 1.2.2012


From the "fruitless" Op Aragorn raids on 1.7.2008 is an interval of: = 1309 days

1309 = 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days

and 1309 days is also: = P7 x 77 days > 777


From the CPS / Staffs Police closing down the fruitful Op Guava's "fruitless" forerunner, Op Aragorn on 25.2.2010 is: = 707 th day

707 = 77x7 + 77+7 + 77+7 or 707 = 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 + 7+7+7 days > 777 777 777


From the Op Guava arrests on 20.12.2010 is: = 51 weeks 51 days = P7+P7+P7 w, P7+P7+P7 d > 777 777

and is also: = 408 days = (7+P7) x P7 days > 777


WMCTU's first success was their first case, Operation Gamble, the UK beheading plot. The guilty pleas of Parviz Khan & co, except one other, in that case, were secured on 29.1.2008

I assume that the 11th hour, Op Guava volte-face guilty pleas were entered on the day that we all found out about them. It might be likely that were entered the day before for example and the finale on 1.2.2012 was the sentencing hearing - I don't know.

This relationship is quite special as it comprises all of the "low order" 119 variants, as follows:

From the Op Gamble guilty pleas on 29.1.2008 to the Goodyear "guilty pleas" on 1.2.2012 is an interval of: = 1463 days

Note: P9=23 and P11=31

1463 = 99 + 119 + 253 + 279 + 713

99 = 11x9
119 = 119
253 = 11xP9
279 = P11x9
713 = P11xP9

1463 days = 11x9 + 119 + 11xP9 + P11x9 + P11xP9 days > 119 119 119 119 119


The Goodyear guilty pleas, were announced on 1.2.2012 as "an 11th hour change of heart".

Hmmm....


From London 7.7.2005 to 1.2.2012 is: = 2401 days

2401 days = 7x7x7x7 days > 7777


and from 9/11 on 11.9.2001 to 1.2.2012 is: = 3795 days

3795 = 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 days


Which no doubt prompted some cabalistic celebration, in the secret cupboard under the stairs of course.

All very sad really.




London Eye inaugurated by Princess Bliar on 31.12.1999


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London Eye inaugurated by Princess Bliar on 31.12.1999


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to 31.12.1999 is: = 1596 days = 11xP9 + 11xP9 + 11xP9 + P11x9 + P11x9 + P11x9 days > 119 119 119 119 119 119


From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to 31.12.1999 is: = 175 weeks = 77 + 7x7 + 7x7 weeks > 77 77 77

it is also: = 1225 days = 77x7 + 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 days > 777 777 777


From 31.12.1999 to 9/11 on 11.9.2001 is: = 620 days = P77+77+77+77 days


all of which explains why the London Eye "pops" up so frequently as an alleged "target" ...




London Stock Exchange

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London Stock Exchange

London Stock Exchange target date for alleged loo bomb = 24.12.2010

From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 is: = 5236 days = 4 x 1309 = P7x77 + P7x77 + P7x77 + P7x77 days > 777 777 777 777


5236 days is also: = 44 x 119 days

= 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119
+ 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119
+ 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119
+ 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 + 119 days


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 is: = 5608 days = 701 weeks, 701 days and 701 = Prime (126)

= P(7xP7+7) weeks, P(7xP7+7) days > 777 777


From the USA's NYC Landmarks Plot target date on 4.7.1993 is an interval of: = 6381 days

6381 = 709 x 9 and 709 = Prime(127) and 127 = P(31) and 31 = Prime(11) - So: 709 = P(P(P11)) or simply, PPP11

= PPP11 x 9 days > 119


From the previous bombing of the London Stock Exchange on 20.7.1990 to London 7.7.2005 is: = 5466 days


5466 days = 911 + 911 + 911 + 911 + 911 + 911 days





New LSE HQ in Paternoster Square opened by HMQ 27.7.2004

Quote:

New LSE HQ in Paternoster Square opened by HMQ 27.7.2004


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 is an interval of: = 3265 days = P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) days




Dean of St Pauls Cathedral, Graeme Knowles "installed" on 1.10.2007 and letters Patent issued on 20.9.2007

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Dean of St Pauls Cathedral, Graeme Knowles "installed" on 1.10.2007 and letters Patent issued on 20.9.2007

DAC Peter Clarke announced his retirement on 21.9.2007


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to 20.9.2007 is: = 4416 days = 16 x 276 = 16 x ( P(49) + 49 )

= P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7
+ P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 + P(7x7) + 7x7 days


From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to 20.9.2007 is: = 4046 days = 2 x 2023 = 7 x P7 x P7 + 7 x P7 x P7 > 777 777


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to 1.10.2007 is: = 4428 days = P(539) + 539 days = P(77x7) + 77x7 days > 777 777




Operation Aragorn "fruitless" raids on 1.7.2008


Quote:

Operation Aragorn "fruitless" raids on 1.7.2008


From London 7.7.2005 to 1.7.2008 is an interval of: 1089 days

1089 days = 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 + 11x9 days


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to 1.7.2008 inclusive is: = 77 + 77 months, 7+7 days > 77 77 77


From WMCTU's first outing since Mi5's expansion on an "unimaginable scale" into the regions, in the "plot" to behead a decorated UK soldier on 31.1.2007 to 1.7.2008 is: = 517 days

517 days = 119 + 119 + P11x9 > 119 119 119


From Ruth Kelly's launch of the PREVENT "strategy" on 5.4.2007 to the Aragorn raids on 1.7.2008 inclusive is: = 454 days = 2 x 227 = 2 x P(49)

454 days = P(7x7) + P(7x7) days > 77 77


As Salaam commented at the time of the Aragorn Raids:

Quote:
Salaam

Strange website page formatting - use Ctrl F Aragorn

The exercise smacks of the pernicious influence of the 'IN35' indicator, established by Government as part of rolling out its 'Preventing Violent Extremism programme'. IN35 is supposed to be a quantitative measure of 'resilience' to so-called violent extremism! Some local authorities have resented to this reporting requirement, because it makes them an arm of the police or of the security services (e.g. refuse collection workers checking bins for incriminating material). However clearly, some Councils are more willing to oblige?


IN35 is a typo.

It was the "NI35", long since abandoned, "performance indicator" in "Building communities resilient to violent extremism" see The Audit Commission and "Spooked !" - How not to PREVENT Violent Extremism.


That's not the violent extremism of the police kicking your door in for no apparent reason, because that's the police just doing their job, INSPIRED by the spooks at WMCTU, [ssh it's secret] who are, after all, only doing their job, PREVENTING the violent extremisim of handing out a few leaflets that they already know about.

Just to be clear.

The Telegraph - 2.7.2008 - "The investigation, called Operation Aragorn, has been going on since last year"

And finally "closed" with no "low hanging fruit" in the judicial basket, on 25.2.2010.

Hmmm. £83k - I think not.





Alleged "meetings"

Quote:
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Chowdhury and Rahman had visited London landmarks including the London Eye and Westminster Abbey after a meeting with Miah and Desai on 28 November 2010.

...

Omar Latif, 28, from Cardiff, admitted assisting others to engage in preparation for acts of terrorism by travelling to and attending meetings on 7 November and 12 December 2010 ...

The Guardian


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Usman Khan, 20, of Persia Walk, Mohammed Shahjahan 27, of Burmarsh Walk, and Nazam Hussain, 26, of Grove Street, all Stoke, admitted engaging in the preparation of terrorism by attending operational meetings in Roath Park, Cardiff, on November 7 and in a Newport country park on December 12. Omar Latif, 28, of Neville Street, Cardiff, admitted attending the meetings with the intention of assisting others to prepare or commit acts of terrorism. The fourth Stoke defendant, Mohibur Rahman, admitted possessing an article for a terrorist purpose on December 20, 2010.

London Evening Standard



Sightseeing in London becomes "reconnaissance" - 28.11.2010

From the phantom NYC Landmarks Plot target date of 4.7.1993 to 28.11.2010 is: = 6356 days

6356 days = 7xP(7x7) + 7xP(7x7) + 7xP(7x7) + 7xP(7x7) days > 777 777 777 777

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From Princess Bliar inaugurating the London Eye on 31.12.1999 to 28.11.2010 is: = 111 months and P(111) days = 37+37+37 m, P(37+37+37) d

37 = Prime(12) and 12 = 3x2x2 or 6+6

= P(3x2x2) + P(3x2x2) + P(3x2x2) months, P( P(3x2x2) + P(3x2x2) + P(3x2x2) ) days > 322's


it is also: = 119+119+119+119 weeks, P(119) days > 653 = P(119)

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From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to 28.11.2010 is: = 5581 days and 5581 = Prime(737) > 737 - enough said ...

737 = 7x7x7 + 7x7x7 + P7+P7+P7 > 777 777 777


737 = Zion backwards and forwards, which is the clue for:

From the Oslo Accords being signed on 13.9.1993 to 28.11.2010 inclusive is: = P7 years, 77 days > 777


it is also: = 119 months, P(119) + P(119 + P(119) days

Note: 3 x P(119) days = 3 x 653 = 1959 days


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From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to 28.11.2010 inclusive is: 7+7 years, 7+7 weeks > 77 77

or, = 77+7 + 77+7 months, 7+7x7 days > 777 777 777


28.11.2010 was the 2316 th day of the London Stock Exchange opening at its new HQ on 27.7.2004:

2316 days = 3 x 772 and 772 = P(119) + 119

2316 days = P(119) + 119 + P(119) + 119 + P(119) + 119 days

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From the July 7th patsies, sightseeing in London, then becoming a "dry run" on 28.6.2005 to 28.11.2010 inclusive is: = 1980 days

1980 days = 11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+ 11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9+11x9 days

or simply, 1980 days = 11+9 x 11x9 days > 119 119

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From Mi5's announcement on 7.3.7 that our new domestic chief spy, Jonathan Evans would be taking over from Dame Eliza to 28.11.2010 is:

= 1362 days = P(7x7) + P(7x7) + P(7x7) + P(7x7) + P(7x7) + P(7x7) days

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From our new domestic chief spy and shining point of light starting work on 21.4.2007 to 28.11.2010 is an interval of: = 1316 days

1316 days = 77x7 + 777 days > 777 777

1316 days is also, there's that number again, 188 weeks = 77+P7 + 77+P7 weeks or seven times that in days > 777 777

Or in normal date arithmetic is: = 43 months, 7 days = P(7+7) m, 7 d > 777

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From the Op Aragorn raids on 1.7.2008 to 28.11.2010 inclusive is: = 7+7+7+7 months, 7+7+7+7 days

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From the alleged "closure" of Op Aragorn on 25.2.2010 to 28.11.2010 is: = 276 days = P(49) + 49 days = P(7x7) + 7x7 days > 77 77

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A walk in the park - 12 .12.2010

12.12.2010 - a date not to be missed in the "Jihad" calendar, as it's "a walk in the park" ...

From 9/11 on 11.9.2001 to 12.12.2010 is an interval of: = 253 weeks and P(253) days

= 11xP9 weeks, P( 11xP9 ) days > 119 119

or an interval of 3 Star of Davids: = 37+37+37 months

a pattern also found in the "July 7 Helpers" case.

or, normal date arithmetic is: = 3379 days

3379 = P11x9 + P11x9 + P11x9 + P11x9 + P11x9 + P11x9 + P11x9 + P11xP9 + P11xP9 days > 119 119 119 119 119 119 119 119 119


From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to 12.12.2010 is: = 5224 days = 8 x 653 and 653 = Prime(119)

5224 days = P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) + P(119) days

or, simply, P(119) weeks, P(119) days




The sentencing "numbers" are here
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Camp Chapman "Attack" - 30.12.2009 - CIA FOB, Khost, Afghanistan


J7 thread is here

See also: 1983 United States embassy bombing, Beirut, Lebanon - 18.4.1983


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... the 1983 terrorist bombing of the US Embassy in Lebanon. Sixty-three people died in that attack, including 17 Americans and most of the CIA’s employees in the country.

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Wikipedia: Camp Chapman Attack

The Camp Chapman attack was a suicide attack against Forward Operating Base Chapman, a key facility of the Central Intelligence Agency in Afghanistan, on December 30, 2009. The base is located near the eastern Afghan city of Khost, in a stronghold of the Taliban movement. One of the main tasks of the CIA operatives stationed at the base was to provide information for drone attacks against targets in Pakistan. Seven CIA operatives, including the chief of the base, and an officer of Jordan's General Intelligence Directorate were killed, and six others were seriously wounded when the attacker detonated a bomb he was carrying. The bombing was the most lethal attack against the CIA in more than 25 years. Only the 1983 United States embassy bombing surpasses the Chapman attack in number of CIA officers killed.[1]

The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, and western intelligence officials identified the attacker as Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi, a Jordanian doctor. While the CIA thought that al-Balawi would be an important informant who could help the intelligence agency to capture top leaders of the Taliban and al-Qaeda, he actually was loyal to insurgents fighting against the U.S.-led military forces in Afghanistan. The attack took place as the CIA expanded its role in the Afghanistan War, increasing paramilitary operations, including drone attacks in Pakistan, and building a number of bases in the southern and eastern provinces of Afghanistan.

The U.S. then requested that Pakistan arrest and extradite an insurgency leader, and intensified drone attacks in the northern area of Pakistan. The U.S. military then issued new security guidances to its bases in Afghanistan. The CIA and the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation investigated the attack. U.S. President Barack Obama praised the CIA officers who died in the bombing, and Afghan President Hamid Karzai condemned the attack. All seven of the operatives killed in the attack were memorialized with a star on the agency's Memorial Wall at its headquarters.[2]



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However, it remained unclear why the attacker was not searched, as would be standard protocol even for visiting dignitaries, and why so many people were present for the debriefing.



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[Camp Chapman is]...one of the most secretive and highly guarded locations in Afghanistan and a major hub of the [CIA's] Special Activities Division.

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The CIA was "expecting the meeting to be of such substance that following the meeting their next directive was to call President Obama," a security official in Kabul said. [65]



Among the many bizarre "articles" on Wikipedia, the Camp Chapman example is a paragon of disinformation, misinformation, obfuscation, confusion and nonsense.

You might want to read, at least, the entire Wiki "script" and the J7 thread and beware of your neurons becoming too far "aligned" to, erm, think ...


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From the the US Embassy bombing in Beirut on 18.4.1982 to the Camp Chapman "Attack" on 30.12.2009 is: = 9754 days = 2 x 4877 days


4877 = Prime(653) and 653 = Prime(119) - So: 4877 = Prime(P(119)) or simply PP(119)

9754 days = PP119 + PP119 days > 119 119 > 77 77


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From the Jihad on 23.8.1996 to the Camp Chapman "Attack" on 30.12.2009 is: = 4877 days

4877 days = PP119 days > 119 > 77


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And from Obama's inauguration on 20.1.2009 is the classic interval of: = 11 months and 9 days or 343 days = 7x7x7 days > 777 and 119 > 77


From DHWAV-UK on 18.8.1995 to the Khost event on 30.12.2009 inclusive is:

= 13 years, 13 months, 13 weeks, 13 days

= P6 y, P6 m, P6 w, P6 d > 6666


No extra points given for realising that the CIA's Jihad is also rooted in the CIA murders in the Beirut event too:

From the CIA mass murder in Beirut on 18.4.1983 to the CIA's Jihad on 23.8.1996 is: = 4877 days = PP119 days > 119 > 77


That "Osama Bin Laden" certainly knew what he was doing, didn't he ...


Hence: Camp Chapman "Attack" = False Flag event.


Or, alternatively, maybe the mythical Al Q have the codes too ....


I'm guessing that the "orders" to be at the meeting did not emanate from the myriad factions that have since claimed responsibility ... including my local Cub Scouts, sources inside my head said ...


So I wonder who wanted all those CIA chaps out of the way, including, the Camp Chapman CIA Base Chief, and the CIA's 9/11 patsy, Jennifer Lynne Matthews ...and had the "nous" to root it so perfectly with PP119's to both the last CIA mass murders in Beirut 26 years earlier and the psyop Jihad ....


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The locale was chosen in part because the base commander, Jennifer Lynne Matthews, was considered a “world-class expert on al-Qaeda and counterterrorism operations,” who spent nearly 20 years in the CIA. She had been part of Alec Station, the CIA’s bin Laden unit, back in the 1990s. After 9/11, she was “integrally involved in all of the CIA’s rendition operations,” according to an intelligence source. For instance, she managed the operation that located and captured Abu Zubaida in 2002. From 2005 to 2009, she was the chief of the counterterrorism branch in London, and had a key role in breaking up a 2006 al-Qaeda plot to blow up airplanes. Then she volunteered to work in Afghanistan.

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Robert Baer, an ex–CIA case officer who served in the Middle East, says assigning an analyst to the base-chief job is like putting a hospital administrator in charge of surgery. “We all bite off things we shouldn’t,” Baer says. “Matthews shouldn’t have been there. She didn’t speak the language. She didn’t know the country.”



So, all you've got to do is to find out who blamed Jennifer Lynne Matthews for the CIA's "failings" vis 9/11, how come she ended up in Khost and who ordered them all to be at that meeting and how come they all ended up greeting the car bomb, I mean suicide bomber, erm, by the car ...

Once you've done that ... you've found the head of "Al Qaeda" ...

Simples.

Makes me wonder about all of these so called "spooks". Real world experience shows that they're all expendable and half of them don't even seem to be aware of which particular faction of the CIA or other three letter agency they're "really" working for.

Hardly the nuanced "intelligence" you'd want in an "intelligence" outfit now is it.

Or, maybe it is ...


The timing of the death of US Special Forces Sgt. Nathan Chapman is very, very spooky too.

Think, the exact opposite of Private Ryan ...


More later ...


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Britain's first suicide bomber - Martial Bourdin 15.2.1894


No, not the Zionist claptrap about the "event" at Mike's Place in Tel Aviv on 30.4.2003, reinforced by the similarly titled BiBiC programme, broadcast on 11.7.2006 - more about that little affair later.


Wikipedia: Martial Bourdin

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Martial Bourdin (1868 - 15.2.1894) was a French anarchist, who died on 15 February 1894 when the chemical explosives he carried prematurely detonated outside the Royal Observatory in Greenwich Park.


See also: Wallsall Anarchists

Mentioned in Tom Secker's film: 7/7 Crime and Prejudice

as is: Mutt and Jeff - Britain bombed itself in 1941 to fool the Nazis

Howard Beale on 7/7 Crime and Prejudice


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7/7: Crime and Prejudice

This documentary explores the 7/7 cold case via new evidence from the recent inquests and discusses the war on terror in the context of numerous miscarriages of justice and acts of violence committed by the state. The first section of the film examines the history of the British state’s use of double agents, from the Victorian Anarchists through WW2 to the war in Northern Ireland. It concludes by examining contemporary cases of injustice and violence carried out as part of the war of terror against Muslims.

The second section of the film is a multi-dimensional study of the new evidence made available at the recent inquests. It looks at the evidence of a wider conspiracy and the fundamental flaws in the official narrative and the police investigation. It also discusses why the dialogue about ‘intelligence failures’ itself fails to address the very real possibility of state involvement in the attacks.

The final section of the film returns to the Anarchists and the case of Martial Bourdin, Britain’s first suicide bomber, in 1894. The mythology surrounding Bourdin is used as a foundation for examining the numerous films, tv shows training exercises and real life events that either predicted 7/7 or were influenced by the attacks. The question of conspiracy theories is addressed through an original analysis unique to this film.

7/7 Crime and Prejudice combines a presentation of the cutting edge of July 7th research with a deeply contextual analysis that casts light on largely unexamined aspects of the war on terror.

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Tom Secker's film deservedly credits the July 7 Truth Campaign.

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From Martial Bourdin on 15.2.1894 to London 7.7.2005 is: = 40684 days

40684 = 28 x 1453 and 1453 = Prime(231) and 231 = 77+77+77

= P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77)
+ P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77)
+ P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77)
+ P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) + P(77+77+77) days


or simply, 7+7+7+7 x P(77+77+77) days


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The incident remains as the only anarchist inspired attack in Britain during the period and it became famous due to the author Joseph Conrad in his 1907 book The Secret Agent. In this book the evil mastermind 'The Professor' plans an attack on the Greenwich Observatory which ends in a bomber being 'blown to pieces' by his own bomb when he trips and falls in Greenwich Park.

The story further inspired Alfred Hitchcock in his film Sabotage (1936).

In this film the innocent dupe who carries the bomb dies when the bus that he is travelling in explodes on the Strand:

a strange pre-figuring of the real event in early 1996 when an IRA bomber blew himself up in a bus just off The Strand.


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Alfred Hitchcock's film, Sabotage was released in the UK on 2.12.1936


The Aldwych / Strand, nominally "IRA", bus bomb occurred on 18.2.1996 at 22:38

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The explosion comes just nine days after the IRA ended its ceasefire with a bombing in the Docklands area of London, which killed two people.

Scotland Yard says it received no warning of the explosion which happened at 2238GMT.


(2238 = 2 x 1119)

Unusual for the "IRA" not to give a warning...

And the police knew by the next day that it was an "accidental detonation" ...


From Hitchcocks, Sabotage, Strand bus bomb art imitiating Conrad's Secret Agent art, imitating Bourdin's reality, being released in the UK on 2.12.1936 to reality imitating reality based art, with the, ahem, "IRA", bus bomb in the Strand on 18.2.1996 is an interval of:

= 59 months, 77 days

59 = Prime(17) and 17 = Prime(7) - So: 59 = Prime(P(7)) or simply, PP7

= PP7 m, 77 d > 777



From the "IRA" bus bomb on the Strand on 18.2.1996 to whatever actually happened in the "bus event" at Tavistock Square on London 7.7.2005 is:

= 77 months, 77 + 77 weeks, 7 days > 7777777 (seven sevens)





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