Prince William initiated into The Order

[TonyGosling]

The Order of the Garter was started just a few years after Philip the Fair arrested the Templars. What mediocre company William's now in.

Prince William, 25, is appointed a garter knight by the Queen
Prince William was awarded his first major royal honour yesterday when the Queen appointed him a garter knight.

Founded by Edward III in 1348, the Order of the Garter is the most senior and the oldest British Order of Chivalry and is one of the few honours in the Queen's gift to give without Prime Ministerial advice.

The second-in-line-to-the-throne will be officially installed as a Royal Knight Companion of the Order Garter and given his insignia by his grand-mother during a private service at Windsor Castle in June......




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_artic le_id=561349

[Larry O'Hara]

[paul wright]

Was that Edward II who got a red hot poker up his ass?
Really, Larry, stop processing our history as if it's some kind of normal political procedure.
The Order of the Garter is indeed some kind of dark ritualistic cult with some power in its hands.
Stop your perjorative and minimising ways or be gone

[Larry O'Hara]

[TonyGosling]

Nice bit of verbiage Larry. You sound like an insider. Ever thought of a career as a masonic after-dinner speaker?

Anyone having big trouble with the bankers, as Philip the Fair was, is a champion of the people in my book.

[Larry O'Hara]

[TonyGosling]

I wouldn't have thought you'd have been giving that partial view of history in the bankers defence Larry.
Reinforcing the centuries long grudges of the Templars.
Specially rushing to the defence of the world's first multinational corporation.
And the Order of the Garter.
You sure are the dark horse of the forum.

[PaulStott]

Larry - You should know be now it does not pay to be too sophisticated for your audience!

[Larry O'Hara]

[TonyGosling]

[paul wright]

I'm not too sure we should be engaging these Class War theoreticians who appear not to have the slightest understanding of historical progression, despite their disparagement of activists here as numbskulls.
They appear to be party to the very real attacks, as reported elsewhere here, on this movement
For all their jokiness they really are a very bum deal

[Larry O'Hara]

[paul wright]

You're exactly that type of person, Larry. Eternally in conflict. You gave your contact as Class War in one instance. You are in part and parcel that little black anarchist hooded chaos stimulating individual. That's your vibe. You're very dangerous and in cahoots and I'll shadow you every step of your way. You're pretty much the same as the BNP, -a shadow force for the governing party
Cheers mate - hope you have a good day of enslavement - such is your lot

[TonyGosling]

So you haven't read Robin Ramsay's Prawn Cocktail Party or any other account of Wilson's taking on the City of London Larry, shame on you! And shame on your feeble attempts to re-write history.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1901250202/
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/414XMCED16L._SS500_.jpg
Amazon has copies still available for only 1p each.

Didn't you know that's why he was crowbarred out of office by the far right and MI5?

Are you in fact the same Larry O'Hara who edits a pseudo-left magazine?

[Larry O'Hara]

[Larry O'Hara]

[TonyGosling]

Hello! What are you talking about?
Wilson wasn't a leftie?
I'm impersonating people on Indymedia.
And rewriting history?
Anyone who thinks Larry has outlived any useful purpose here please PM me.

[Larry O'Hara]

[TonyGosling]

[TonyGosling]

www.Terrorism-Illuminati.com
Has some interesting things to say about Willy's new Order

"Edward II initially refused to implement the papal order enforced by his father-in-law. Between October 13, 1307 and January 8, 1308 the Templars went unmolested in England. During this period many fugitive Templars, seeking to escape torture and execution, fled to apparent safety there. Although, after the intercession of Pope Clement V, King Edward ordered the seizure of members of the order in England on January 8, 1308. Only handfuls of Templars were duly arrested however. But most Templars in England, as well as elsewhere outside France, altogether escaped arrest, let alone torture and execution.

Rather, the traditions of the Templars seems to have taken on a new guise, under the Order of the Garter, founded by Edward II’s on, Edward III King of England. Edward III himself married Philippa of Avesne, who was descended from Louis IX’s brother, Charles I of Anjou. Charles I was the father of Charles II King of Jerusalem and Sicily, who married Maria of Hungary. Their daughter, Margaret of Sicily, then married Philip IV’s brother, Charles III of Valois. Their daughter Jeanne de Valois was Philipa’s mother.

The inspiration of the order, founded in 1348, as “a society, fellowship and college of knights.” was the King Arthur and the Round Table. Various legends have been described to explain the origin of the Order. The most popular legend involves the “Countess of Salisbury”, possibly Edward’s cousin, Joan of Kent. While the Countess was dancing with or near Edward at Eltham Palace, her garter is said to have slipped from her leg to the floor. When the surrounding courtiers snickered, the king supposedly picked it up and tied it to his own leg, exclaiming Honi soit qui mal y pense, meaning “evil upon he who thinks it”. This phrase has become the motto of the Order of the Garter."
http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/bm/index.php

[TonyGosling]

Brother Jacques de Molay
Last public Grand Master
Convicted Heretic



"Item, that in each province the order had idols, namely heads, of which some had three races and some one, and others had a human skull.

Item, that they adored these idols or that idol, and especially in their great chapters and assemblies.

Item, that they venerated (them).

Item, that (they venerated them) as God.

Item, that (they venerated them) as their Savior....

Item, that they said that the head could save them.

Item, that [it could] make riches.

Item, that it made the trees flower.

Item, that [it made] the land germinate.

Item, that they surrounded or touched each head of the aforesaid idols with small cords, which they wore around themselves next to the shirt or the flesh.

Item, that in his reception, the aforesaid small cords or some lengths of them were given to each of the brethren.

Item, that they did this in veneration of an idol.

Item, that they (the receptors) enjoined them (the postulants) on oath not to reveal the aforesaid to anyone."

Articles of Accusations against the Poor Knights of the Temple of Solomon, following the mass arrest of Friday October 13, 1307.

http://freemasonrywatch.org/3index.html

[TonyGosling]

BOB LOMAS <earlgrey@talktalk.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 11:50 AM
Subject: A MATTER OF NATIONAL IMPORTANCE

Dear Editor,

A MATTER OF NATIONAL IMPORTANCE

One finds it hard to believe that a leading national newspaper such as the Daily Mail should publish an article on an essential subject of national importance written by a professional journalist, in this instance Michael Thornton, who clearly has no understanding of our Constitution and the role of the monarchy; unless of course the object of the article was to deliberately deceive.

In the article Michael Thornton ponders on whether or not Prince Charles should be Crowned King following the demise of the Queen or whether he should step aside making way for William. According to our system of constitutional monarchy that decision lies not in the hands of the monarchy or Parliament but in the hands of the people who decide who they want in a national election known as the coronation.

It is now so long since we had a coronation that few people know what it is all about and how it proceeds. In the event there is a great deal of protocol and pageantry of course, baggage that has accumulated down through the centuries, but apart from that, in principle, the procedure is basically quite simple. On the day of the coronation people drawn by invitation from every facet of society whose obligation it is to represent the people, assemble at the appointed place, traditionally Westminster Abbey. Traditionally the person to be crowned is the first in line of royal ascent, as the Crown passes to the first in line of royal ascent on the death or abdication of the previous monarch.

The coronation ceremony is the confirmation of that inheritance but there can be no confirmation until the people through their representatives assembled have verbally expressed their consent. The Archbishop of Canterbury brings forward the sovereign who at that time wears only a plain robe without regalia and asks all present if they accept the person before them to be their lawful monarch. It is then for those assembled to cry yea or nay. It is this vital aspect of the coronation that makes it an election, for if the people had no choice or say in the matter the question would be irrelevant. The people have the lawful right to reject the first in line and choose a sibling providing the person of their choice is in the line of royal ascent. It is recorded that Henry VIII always spoke of his coronation as being his election. Once the sovereign has been publicly accepted by the people the monarch then takes the coronation oath and swears not to rule or reign over the people but to 'govern' the nation according to the people's laws and customs.

Because since the days of George III aspiring politicians have sought to play down the lawful role of the people's monarch and have hidden the true meaning of the coronation and its importance, the people by and large have no understanding of what our constitutional monarchy and this nation is all about. This nation is not about Parliament and the people, it is about the people and their elected monarch, Parliament being no more than a temporary administration and legislature with no powers of its own what so ever, and governments are no more than delegated authorities subordinate to the people by sworn obligation to the people's elected sovereign as being the official Governor of the nation, a political office much the same as the President of the United States of America.

Under the prevailing political circumstances it would seem however that none of this is any longer relevant as in 1972 the Conservative Party then in government signed an article of national capitulation with the then European Economic Community which surrendered the sovereignty of the nation and the constitutional supremacy of the people's Crown to an unelected and unaccountable foreign political power. As clearly there can be no sovereign head of state in a country that is no longer sovereign and no governor of a nation that is no longer self governing the British monarchy was at that time effectively terminated.

This was confirmed in the case of the Merchant Shipping Act 1983 when the government of the day was brought to heel and the country heavily fined for having defied the supremacy of the European Commission. Later, in the case of the Metric Martyrs who defied the supremacy of European law and attempted to exercise their lawful right to sell their wares in traditional measurements according the our sovereign laws as promised them by the Queen in her coronation oath, the presiding judge dismissed their claim on the grounds that we had agreed in 1972 to surrender our national sovereignty to the EEC. Further confirmation of the termination of the monarchy came following the signing of the Maastricht Treaty when Prime Minister John Major announced in the Commons that the Queen had been made a citizen of the EU. Clearly no one can be both monarch and citizen at the same time.

With this regard it would seem that the British people are living under a delusion created by a sinister smoke and mirrors system backed by charades such as the Queen's silver jubilee and all upheld and perpetuated by the national press. Presently it is a case of 'oh what a web we weave', but all could be rectified if the national press jointly decided to be honest with the people and tell them the truth and so halt the progress down the slippery slope to anarchy on which the nation has embarked. Alas, recent events suggest that such an action would be highly unlikely.

Yours Faithfully, Bob Lomas. The Magna Society.