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Did a Global Hawk Airforce Drone hit the Pentagon on 9/11?

 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:42 pm    Post subject: Did a Global Hawk Airforce Drone hit the Pentagon on 9/11? Reply with quote

Samuel Danner, an experienced pilot from Maryland says he witnessed the attack on the Pentagon from less than 500 feet. Danner said the aircraft in question was not a Boeing but a very quiet-flying drone-like aircraft without any cockpit or fuselage windows. Other eyewitnesses have come forward with similar accounts. Private investigators believe the Pentagon was hit by a DU- weaponized remote-controlled Global Hawk.

Global Hawks are extremly light weight about 4 tons and more than 50% is carbon fiber and resin. That would explain why there was less than 2 tons of scrap at the Pentagon!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The youtube clip contains known facts with a lot of unverified opinion.(search and rescue dogs) Seems to be muddying the truth.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could a Global Hawk Drone Have Hit The Pentagon?
June 6, 2008

“It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it’s physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we’re talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them.”

-Donald Rumsfeld, Interviewed October 12th, Parade

Lots of things point to the conclusion that a small unmanned drone aircraft hit the pentagon, not a 757.

This would explain the reluctance to release better videos from pentagon. This would explain the strange maneuvers, and the ability to fly so close to the ground. It would explain why the plane was not shot down by the pentagon air defense system allegedly in place. (It would be a military plane). It would also explain why eye witnesses talked about, “missile with wings” and “small commuter plane” and the engine’s high pitch squeal. (The much smaller Rolls Royce engine of the drone plane would have a distinct high pitch sound as opposed to the darker rumble of two huge 757-engines.)

In the above quote it seems like Donald Rumsfeld had a "slip of the lip" when he said "and the missile to damage this building". He is clearly acknowledgeing that something other than a "plane" damaged the Pentagon, as we are lead to believe. The lies that keep unraveling.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MYSTERY PENTAGON DISC FROM A GLOBAL HAWK? *PIC*
Posted By: Christopher Bollyn
Date: Sunday, 12-Oct-2003 05:15:59
Controversy Swirling Over September 11 Pentagon Mystery:

Industry Experts Can’t Explain Photo Evidence

By Christopher Bollyn
Exclusive to American Free Press

Since AFP first published a photograph from the 9-11 Pentagon crash site, there has been a great outpouring of interest—and disinfo.

When American Free Press published a hard-to-find photo from the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) archive showing a small turbine disc from the Pentagon crash site, it was hoped that readers could help identify the object (Sept. 15 & 22). Since the photo and article were published there has been an outpouring of interest—and disinformation—about the unidentified jet engine part.

The photograph reveals a crucial piece of evidence, which if positively identified could help prove what kind of aircraft hit the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.

“Is this the 9-11 smoking gun?” Fintan Dunne, editor of WagKingdom.com asks on a web page dedicated to the FEMA photographs. These photos could be the keys to unlock the cover-up, Dunne wrote on Oct. 7.

“Among all the arguments about 9-11: tower fires, WTC 7 collapse, etc., none seems as straightforward as that posed by the jet engine part,” Dunne said. If the Pentagon photos are authentic, he said, then either the turbine is from a Boeing 757, or it is not. The web site appeals to “aero engineers” for help in identifying the disc seen in the FEMA photos.

The photograph is one of many taken by Jocelyn Augustino, a FEMA photographer, at the Pentagon crash site on Sept. 13, 2001. In the FEMA on-line photo library, the best photos of the unidentified disc are numbered 4414 and 4415, archived at: www.photolibrary.fema.gov/ photolibrary/advancedsearch.do.

Several readers wrote to AFP suggesting that the unidentified disc was a piece from the Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) mounted in the tail section of a Boeing 757. Honeywell makes the GTCP331-200 APU used on the 757 aircraft. No one suggested, however, that the small disc was a piece from one of the main engines of a 757-200.

AFP contacted Honeywell’s Aerospace division in Phoenix, Ariz., and sent high-resolution photos for their examination. “There’s no way that’s an APU wheel,” an expert at Honeywell told AFP. The expert, who cannot be named, added: “That turbine disc—there’s no way in the world that came out of an APU.”

American Free Press contacted Pratt & Whitney and Rolls Royce, manufacturers of the 757’s turbofan jet engines to try and identify the piece.

“If the aircraft that struck the Pentagon was a Boeing 757-200 owned by American Airlines, then it would have to be a Rolls Royce engine,” Mark Sullivan, spokesman for Pratt & Whitney, told AFP.

John W. Brown, spokesman for Rolls Royce (Indianapolis), had previously told AFP: “It is not a part from any Rolls Royce engine that I’m familiar with, and certainly not the AE 3007H made here in Indy.”

The AE 3007 engines are used in small commuter jets such as the Cessna Citation; the AE 3007H is also used in the military’s unmanned aircraft, the Global Hawk. The Global Hawk is manufactured by Northrop Grumman’s subsidiary Ryan Aeronautical, which it acquired from Teledyne, Inc. in July 1999.

A detailed photo of the front fan of a Global Hawk is online at:
http://www.rolls-royce.com/media/gallery/defence/lrg_ae3007_6.htm

If the government version that an American Airlines 757-200 hit the Pentagon is accurate, then the object in the photo would have to be from a Rolls Royce RB211-535 turbofan engine.

When AFP told Brown that it must be a piece of a Rolls Royce engine, Brown balked and asked who at Pratt & Whitney had provided the information.

Asked again if the disc in the photo is a piece of a Rolls Royce RB211-535, or from the AE 3007 series, Brown said he could not answer.

AFP then asked Brown if he was actually familiar with the parts of an AE 3007H, which is made at the Indiana plant: “No,” Brown said. “I don’t build the engines. I am a spokesman for the company. I speak for the company.”

Rolls Royce produces the RB211-535 engines for American Airlines 757-200 aircraft at a plant in Derby, England. Martin Johnson, head of communications at Rolls Royce in Derby, said he had followed the story closely in American Free Press and had also been notified in advance by Rolls Royce offices in Seattle and Indianapolis.

However, rather than address the question of the unidentified disc, Johnson launched a verbal attack on this reporter for questioning the government version of events at the Pentagon on 9-11. “You are the only person in the world who does not believe that a 757 hit the Pentagon,” Johnson said. “The idea that we can have a reasonable conversation is beyond your wildest dreams,” Johnson said and hung up the phone.

Flug Revue, a German magazine about aviation equipment was more willing to discuss the disc. Karl Schwarz, a technical editor at the Bonn-based publication, examined the photo and technical drawings of the RB211-535 for AFP. “I think only an engineer who is involved in the design of the engine could identify the part,” Schwarz said.

While the front fan of the RB211-535 has a 74.5-inch diameter, compression discs inside the engine are much smaller. Schwarz said the inner discs are between 29 and 41 inches in diameter. “It could well be” an inner compression disc, Schwarz said. The discs from the inner stages are made of titanium, he added.

AFP asked Schwarz if this could be a disc from a smaller engine, such as the Global Hawk’s AE 3007H. “It could come from any jet engine,” Schwarz said.

If the disc in the photo can be matched with a Rolls Royce AE 3007H engine, some speculate that it would prove something like a Global Hawk hit the Pentagon.

The Global Hawk engine is hand built at the Rolls Royce plant in Indianapolis and has an opening diameter of 43.5 inches. Schwarz said he did not have a technical diagram of an AE 3007 engine to consult.

Because the disc in the photo appears very similar in size and shape to the front fan of a Global Hawk engine, AFP asked Schwarz in what position is the solid disc found behind the front fan of a turbofan engine. “Immediately,” Schwarz said.

An unnamed former cruise missile engineer for the engine manufacturer Teledyne Continental Motors-Turbine Engines added his opinion to the debate:

“Clearly, the part in the picture is larger than 24 inches in diameter. It also appears to have a nosepiece-like device on its front. This probably houses bearings, front oil sump and perhaps an alternator or starter.”

This engineer concluded with the intriguing comment, “This fan did not come from a cruise missile engine.”

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a comparison of the "Mystery Pentagon Disc" & a Rolls-Royce AE-3007 Global Hawk Engine. From the view of the front fan, both images look very simular.





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