That picture of the 'exploded backpack' has been widely disseminated on MSM as being an official photo of the exploded backpack from the FBI.
I couldn't find it on their website.
Can it be confirmed?
It looks more like the craft/cst guys bag.
Is he definitely leaving the scene without his backpack?
If so, jumping to conclusions wont help. If there was a drill, many people could have been given orders to place backpacks in various locations. They wouldn't necessarily know what was in them. Including the brothers.
Those craft/cst guys are shocked when the bomb goes off.
People with experience of explosives might be able to tell us more about what should be left of that bag (if that is indeed being claimed to be the bag). They should be able to tell us more about what is being claimed about the device.
Do the claimed locations of the device match the footage?
Apologies for all the questions but I think they need asking so we can clear some things up. It might help us concentrate on clear inconsistencies and straight out lies about this very strange event.
One more. I hear people claiming numerous witnesses to the drill announcements but I still only see one. Ali Stephenson.
If there are more we need to hear them and collate them.
It is proof that the authorities were lying from the start. But one guy doesn't seem enough. It's probably counter-productive.
No, the claimed locations do not match the footage.
On the ITV special the other night they claimed as proof a still of 'the backpack' which had been placed just behind the railings.
The bomb clearly exploded at least 3-5 yards BEHIND the railings.
Proving, if nothing else, that the director of the 'documentary special' is an idiot.
by craig on April 24, 2013 11:09 am in Uncategorized
Yet another example of the appalling standards of modern journalism from the Guardian, with journalists not thinking about what they write, and of the fakery of the industry of “analysts” that leech off the “War on Terror”.
Zhukov has analysed some 30,000 violent attacks in the Caucusus region and found that in most cases there is substantial chatter between instigators followed by a claim of responsibility for the incident
Really? 30,000 attacks analysed, including researching the internet traffic of the perpetrators and their public statements?
That is rather a lot of work. Firstly you have to identify the attack and identify the perpetrator. Then you have to access their internet use and go through it looking for relevant reading, comments or relevant messages.
Let us presume you have such good access to the security services that they do all of that for you, and serve up the results to you on a plate, and that you trust their diligence, honesty and analytical ability sufficiently to work just from what you were given. If you were being served up ready to analyse dossiers of relevant internet traffic of perpetrators of attacks, how many such dossiers could you in any meaningful way analyse in a working day to form a view on the individual? Perhaps four?
Now let us presume four weeks holiday a year and five working days a week. It would take you 33 years of solid work, doing nothing else in your professional life, to analyse thirty thousand cases. That is to make the startling assumption that there is meaningful material on as many as thirty thousand cases to analyse, and you have access to it.
30,000 attacks analysed? bs. Pure bs.
To compound which the Guardian also brings us that silk suited leech on public funds, Ed Husain of the discredited Quilliam Foundation. What passes for mainstream media analysis on security issues is risible.
'Suppression of truth, human spirit and the holy chord of justice never works long-term. Something the suppressors never get.' David Southwell
Martin Van Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing."
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:29 pm Post subject:
Just got this from IT guy @DKiesow at The Boston Globe
Senior Product Manager @BostonGlobe. Working on new mobile stuff. Formerly: Digital Media Fellow @Poynter Institute.
@TonyGosling Info about the 'drill' here:
06:43 PM - 24 Apr 13
Is he about to explain how the 12:53pm warning can be AFTER the bombs went off at 2.49pm ?? We'll see....
Ah.. all about crazy US time zones...
The Tweeet was sent at 3:53pm ET. Thanks. - @dkiesow
The Same Motive for Anti-US 'Terrorism' is Cited Over and Over
Ignoring the role played by US actions is dangerously self-flattering and self-delusional
By Glenn Greenwald
Reports purporting to describe what Dzhokhar Tsarnaev told US interrogators should, for several reasons, be taken with a huge grain of salt.
Boston Bombing: The Official Story Proves Dzhokhar Is Innocent - A Photo Essay
By Scott Creighton
If you believe the official story of what happened on April 15th at the finish-line of the Boston Marathon, then you have to know that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is innocent of the charges leveled against him. You cannot avoid it.
A. There are two(2) brothers – and these have been the focal point of attention as the mass media has been reminding us ever since the Boston bombing.
B. We remove one brother from the equation (i.e. since he is arrested – in custody – no longer a threat). So – we get to:-
C. That leaves one (1) brother we know to have been shot ( under what circumstances we have yet to ascertain – but he is shot and is in a serious condition). So, we can all reason that what we saw on the video footage was footage of the one that was killed – not the one shot and placed in a serious condition.
Surely, if a man is already in custody and alive – then when he is shot – under what circumstances can such a shooting and killing of a man who already had stripped naked be justified homicide?
The facts versus the case presented to the public
At this point, I can but comment as follows:-
1. The person being arrested in the video does look like Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
2. If the arrest was related to a different and unconnected incident – then that “different incident” would still have coincided with the very period of the bombing, and since Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a suspect, it would be an odd arrest that would have arrested Tamerlan Tsarnaev then but not pertaining to the bombing but another incident.
3. Surely, the journalist is clearly there in the video speaking directly to his eye witness account of events that pertain directly to the post-bombing search for suspects.
4. The video appeared on CNN and seems to be projecting to the public the arrest of Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS8CAUFFSMU – the next video mentions CNN retracting the earlier information announcing that a suspect was arrested:-
The retraction would be consistent with an attempt to find a new narrative once independent observers started posting youtube videos that either directly challenged and/or questioned the official mainstream media’s version.
And here is another mainstream media video of someone ( Tsarnaev ?) on his stomach lying flat on the roadway. Can we now begin to piece the original dead Tsarnaev together and link to the man subsequently ( Tsarnaev ?) lying flat and come up with a credible narrative to make the official sequence of events ever fit logically together?:-
Where is the solid case so far built out of the public information that has been disseminated about the brothers?
Is there an alternate credible narrative about the Boston bombings?
Can a government, willfully lie, fabricate evidence, and stage a “false flag” event?
Yes it can if we consider the following video and the photographs of the events surrounding the Boston bombings:-
Has this type of strategy ever been used or been deployed by the government of America before? Yes it has been:-
The foregoing declassified document just about says it all, if proof is required of the capacity of government to deceive the citizenry.
The global cum domestic dimensions of the Boston bombings
An entire nation was duped by the WMD line sold, before no less an august body, than the United Nations. Fabrications, lies, deceptions and statecraft manipulation at the highest levels was the order of the day – ably assisted by Colin Powell and others at the highest levels of the United States government. Those are concrete facts about events that recently took place, which led to the illegal invasion of Iraq, followed by a million plus Iraqis dead in consequence ( and still counting) and several Americans dead and maimed – in the service of what – an oil war? Hans Blix, the Chief UN weapons inspector’s book* on this whole, sad and bloodthirsty set of events is probably the most, convincing account I have come across of how events unfolded internationally at the time.
• Name of book: “Disarming Iraq”.
That backdrop to say this. The misdeeds of the state and its ability to lie, concoct and cover-up is not to be doubted nor debased, by simply focusing on a view that may be posted or published which tries to make a point about the truth behind the events, but fails to do so in a reasoned, consistently logical or credible way. That fact in and of itself does not negate the need to question, analyse and then draw reasonable conclusions.
The new official narrative about the Boston bombings is that the brothers were “self-radicalised”. Since they happen to be of Chechen descent and also were of the Muslim religion, this further fits into the “war on terror” narrative that Muslims are the enemy, thus justifying more over- expenditures of the military-industrial complex.
So, I suspect that now the “war on terrorism” mind-set will increasingly be projected from a 9/11 original position of justifying global warfare, into a “post Boston bombing mind-set” justifying the reduction of civil liberties domestically in the US on the basis of fighting and constraining domestic terrorism.
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:30 am Post subject:
I really dont like relaying this 'crisis actors' malarkey to anyone really but I'm sure some of you must've come across some of it by now.
I'm perturbed as to what has happened to the mans clothing in the linked picture.
He looks like the manager of my local pub (except the guy in the pic isn't tall enough)! _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
I already put this up on the thread, you seem to have missed it:
(no, re-iterating it - ed.)
Canadian 'Press for Truth' video journalist interviews brothers aunt on telephone, who says that the naked man being taken and sat in the police car was the elder brother; he obviously couldn't have had explosives strapped to him, or been run over by his brother:
http://12160.info/video/press-for-truth-interviews-suspect-s-aunt-in-c anada-breaking-info _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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The alternate patsy is found dead _________________ If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it. - Edward Bernays
Posted on April 25, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog
Officials said that Boston terror suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev engaged in a shootout with police and then may have tried to kill himself while he was trapped in the boat, before he surrendered to police.
For example, Newsday reported:
Authorities believe Tsarnaev may have tried to shoot himself before he was taken into custody Friday night because of the trajectory and location of the bullet wound in his neck, a source familiar with the investigation said Sunday.
And the Daily Mail wrote:
Tsarnaev is believed to have shoved his pistol in his own mouth and pulled the trigger in a failed suicide attempt as SWAT officers and federal agents closed in on his backyard hiding place. However, instead of killing him, the bullet simply tore through his neck.
However, the Washington Post reports today:
The suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing had no firearms when he came under a barrage of police gunfire that struck the boat where he was hiding, according to multiple federal law enforcement officials.
Authorities said they were desperate to capture Dzhokhar Tsarnaev so he could be questioned. The FBI, however, declined to discuss what prompted the gunfire.
In the immediate aftermath of Tsarnaev’s capture, police officials said he had fired from the boat and he was reported to have been captured with several weapons. There were also reports that the gunshot wound he suffered to the throat might have been an attempt to kill himself as police moved in.
The Post also reports that the barrage of gunfire by authorities may have occurred because of a single accidental shot by the police:
Law enforcement officials described the 30 minutes before the arrest of Tsarnaevas chaotic. One characterized it as “the fog of war” and said that in a highly charged atmosphere, one accidental shot could have caused what police call “contagious fire.”
DARTMOUTH, Mass. (AP) — Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth this week after the explosions killed three people and wounded more than 180 others, his classmates told The Associated Press on Friday
Students said Tsarnaev lived on the third floor of the Pine Dale dormitory. Harry Danso, who lives on the same floor, told the AP he saw him in a dorm hallway this week after the bombings.
"He was regular, he was calm," said Danso, who described Tsarnaev as a quiet kid who would sometimes ask him for a homework assignment.
Sonia Ribeiro, 19, of Boston, was in a philosophy class with Tsarnaev. She also said he was on campus this week, although not in class.
"He was laid back. I would never expect this at all from him," she said.
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:16 am Post subject:
Here's another video from the same list of comments; I couldn't follow it all, but the guy definitely knows Martial Law is on the way. Like us, he's extremely frustrated at the 'sheeple's' lack of understanding of what's going down:
'The surviving Boston Marathon bombings suspect has been transferred to a federal medical detention facility, officials said on Friday.
The US Marshals Service said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev left Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center overnight and was taken to the Federal Medical Center Devens about 40 miles west of Boston.
The facility, on the decommissioned Fort Devens US army base, treats federal prisoners and detainees who require specialized long-term medical or mental health care. The 19-year-old Tsarnaev is recovering from a gunshot wound to the throat and other injuries suffered during his attempted getaway..' _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Craft International Services hired guns at the Boston Marathon:
Why Such Secrecy about Private Military Contractor’s Men Working the Event?
Thu, 04/25/2013 - 14:09
by: Dave Lindorff
Speaking as an investigative reporter with almost 40 years’s experience, I can say that when government officials won’t talk, they’re generally hiding something embarrassing or worse.
I tried, and nobody will talk about those Craft International Services private security personnel who were widely observed and photographed near the finish line of the Boston Marathon, wearing security ear-pieces, hats and T-shirts bearing the company’s skull logo, and all wearing the same dark coats, khaki pants and combat boots, some carrying what appear to have been radiation detectors. (I got no hard answers, though there were some inadvertent hints given.)
I first contacted a man identifying himself as Jack Fleming, a public affairs person with the Boston Athletic Assn., sponsor of the marathon. Fleming advised me that “If you want to ask about that you should contact the Commonwealth (of Massachusetts) Executive Office of Public Safety.”
I called that agency and spoke with the public information office there, a man named Terrell. He first said, "Did you call the Marathon organizers?" When I replied that I had, and that they had said to call his office, he replied, "They did?" Then he said, “You should call the City of Boston Police Department. They released a security plan to some media organizations.”
Indeed they had released that plan to the Boston Globe. Based upon the information it got from the police the article the Globe ran, did report that the Police had deployed “air patrols, K9 units, and more than 1,000 uniformed officers and soldiers along the 26-mile course and the finish line,” but it made no mention of the private contracting of soldiers-for-hire, which is what Craft International does (see the Craft website). News agency Reuters reported, meanwhile, that a top official for the Massachusetts state Homeland Security Department, Undersecretary Kurt Schwartz, told a group at Harvard U. that his agency had “planned” for a possible bombing attack on the marathon, even running a “table-top” exercise about such an event a week before the race.
I called the Boston Police to ask if they had hired the Craft International personnel who were observed at the scene just before and after the bombing, and was told by the public affairs office there that “Anything having to do with the investigation of the bombing would have to be referred to the FBI Boston Division office.” When I pointed out that I wasn’t asking anything about the investigation, but was simply asking who had hired the security personnel from Craft International, the answer was simply repeated: “You’ll have to ask the FBI.”
So I called the FBI, and got a public affairs person there named Amanda Cox. Her initial response to my question was, “I do not have any information on that.”
I then said I had been referred to her by the Boston Police Department, and said that photos of the scene after the bombing had shown Craft International personnel conversing with FBI agents. She then put down the phone, and I could hear her turn to a supervisor and ask, her voice muffled, “This guy’s asking about the Craft Security Consultants -- who hired them and what they were doing.”
I next overheard the muffled voice of another woman to whom she had been speaking reply, “I think you could safely say, ‘I do know we worked with a lot of people who worked on security at the marathon...’” After that I couldn’t make out what was being said.
Cox later returned to the phone, and instead told me, “I’d refer you to the company on any information about who hired them.” (Taken together the overheard conversation and the official answer from Cox would at least seem to confirm that Craft's people were hired for the event, and that the FBI knows a lot more than it is willing to say about them.)
Next I called Craft International. The company has no phone number listed on its website -- just a general email address of email@example.com (to which I wrote to asking for information, but which elicited no response)--but I found one listed for their headquarters office at 2101 Cedar Springs Rd., Suite 1400, Dallas, TX, in a listing on the company published in a directory in Bloomberg Businessweek, This entry noted that the company, in addition to “providing security, defense, and combat weapons training services for military, police, corporate and civilian clients in the US and internationally,” also “offers corporate and private and civilian training services...” The number, published in a business magazine, was clearly meant as a contact for potential customers to call.
A woman answered the phone brightly with the company's name. However, when I identified myself as a reporter, and said I was wondering if someone could tell me who had hired personnel from the firm to work at the Boston Marathon, she responded with a flummoxed: “Um, I um, don’t really have any information on that. I’m just an answering service.”
I replied, “Look, the number I called is listed as the number of the company’s corporate headquarters at 2101 Cedar Springs Road. You’re not an answering service.”
At that point she said, “Let me see who I can transfer you to.”
However, after a long pause, she was back, and said, “The answer I’ve been given is that you should go to the website, where there’s an email address you can write to with your question.”
I had already done that, I told her. She then said she couldn’t help me and hung up.
I also called the US Department of Homeland Security, but a women named Angela who answered the press office number for this public government agency (she refused to provide her last name despite being the public information office) said the DHS media office was “only taking inquiries sent in by email.” I sent in an inquiry asking if any unit of the DHS had hired Craft International to provide security at the Boston Marathon, but so far have received no response.
As things stand, since it's highly unlikely that Craft International, a private for-profit enterprise founded by the late ace Navy Seal sniper Chris Kyle, would have "hired" itself to police the Marathon gratis, it seems pretty clear that we had rent-a-special forces-soldier people, hired by some agency, at the scene of the bombing ahead of the bombing.
And we have no reporting on this in the mainstream corporate media.
Why? I have no answer to that.
I did write to Andrea Estes, the lead writer of the Globe’s piece on police security planning mentioned above, who is described in her bio on the Globe’s website staff page as an “investigative reporter specializing in government accountability.”
I called and left a message on her phone, and sent her an email, asking if she had looked into the Craft Security personnel, to see who hired them, what they were doing at the race finish line, and why they appeared be carrying radiation detectors. She has so far not responded to my request for information and assistance concerning anything she had done or learned about this, or whether she had looked into it at all.
Certainly there is a big accountability question. A bunch of them actually. Here are a few:
* If Craft International people were hired, who hired them and why?
* If it was the Boston Police or the FBI that hired them, why won’t they just say so? Simply hiring outside security help should not be a secret, and could in no way affect the investigation into the bombing and the captured suspect, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, so why the secrecy about that? Given all the police presence, and the size of the FBI's Boston division, why did they need those extra guys from a private rent-a-soldier firm?
* If it was not the Boston Police or the FBI, what agency did hire the company, and why?
* If it was the state’s Homeland Security Dept. or or the state Executive Office of Public Safety, or perhaps more likely, the US Department of Homeland Security, did they notify the FBI that they had done so, and tell the agency what had prompted them to do this?
* The big overarching question when it comes to who hired Craft International is, what possible gain in security could have been achieved by adding what appears to be seven guys (or perhaps a few more who didn’t appear in photos) from a private security firm when the Boston Police had in place over 1000 armed security people from their office and the National Guard, and when, as became evident immediately after the bombs went off, a large number of FBI personnel were also on hand?
Unless, of course, the Craft Security people were aware of something that we, the public, including the race participants and spectators, and perhaps even the police and FBI, were not aware of.
Transparency is critical to accountability. At this point, it is clear that we have had a massive failure of the national security state. Despite the fact that the FBI was aware of concerns about Tarmelan Tsarnaev, and the fact that the CIA had him on a watch list, he appears to have been able to work on line to learn how to build a powerful homemade bomb, to obtain the materials, including a substantial quantity of black powder, to build a number of them, and, allegedly with the help of his younger brother Dzhokhar, to place them near the finish line and detonate two of them, killing three people and injuring as many as 200. That’s a huge intelligence fail.
It would be an even bigger fail if it turns out that some agency had awareness of a credible threat and that it hired Craft International personnel to prevent it. We clearly need to know, and have a right to demand to know, who hired those men and why. After all, at a minimum, on the face of things, they did an abysmal job of preventing a bombing right in front of their supposedly well-trained noses.
And of course, as I wrote earlier, there is also another question, which is really disturbing: The image of the exploded backpack released by the FBI and identified as the remains of the pack that was carrying one of the two pressure-cooker bombs, prominently displays a white square on a black background. This is not a doctored photograph; it’s the photograph that was released by the FBI. There are also at least two photos depicting one of the Craft International men who is wearing a black backpack identical to several of the other Craft International personnel. The same white square is also visible on the top of his pack.
There does not appear to be any such white marking -- square or otherwise -- on the top of the black backpack worn by Tarmelan Tsarnaev, as observed in several security photos taken of him (Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was shown carrying a smaller white or light-colored pack, slung over one shoulder).
I am not drawing any conclusions from any of this, but I will say that when government agencies at all levels and a private contracting firm are all this obtuse and secretive (and in some cases even deceptive) about what should be a simple question -- who hired these men? -- my suspicions are aroused.
Somebody’s clearly hiding something.
And by the way, why aren't the mainstream media asking about this? Are corporate media journalists so intimidated about being labeled “conspiracy nuts” that they can't do their jobs? At a minimum, this goes to the question of accountability. It also goes to the question of inter-agency communication or lack of it. And given what we know about how many times the FBI has been an active encourager and enabler of terror plots which it later thwarts and claims credit for preventing, there’s the question, too of potential official culpability. Furthermore, when an horrific incident like this is used to justify such new threats to our Constitutional freedom as an unprecedented martial law-style lockdown of an entire 1-million-person metropolitan area and a precedent-setting deliberately Miranda-free, attorney-free interrogation of a hospitalized, gravely wounded and sedated suspect, it is critical that the whole story be told, not just the official one. _________________ If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it. - Edward Bernays
'Boiling Frogs Post Vindicated in Its Analyses of Boston Terror & Predictions
Over a week ago I began my interview and analyses series on hidden connections and intended objectives in the Boston Terror Case. In our Boiling Frogs Post EyeOpener Report with James Corbett I offered two connected likely outcomes as a result of Washington-Scripted and CIA-Connected Boston Terror Case:
1-Our Back-Door Deal with Russia on Syria: Our soon-to-come Invasion of Syria immediately following the Boston Terror incident with Russia removing itself as an obstacle
2-Rise in “Radical Islamic Terror” in Russia’s Caucasus-mainly in Chechnya and Dagestan region
3-Per Washington’s consent a major Russian crack-down in Caucasus- US-Western governments support attributing this to Russia’s contribution in countering Global Islamic Terrorism...' _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
The uncle of Boston's two Tsarnaev brothers worked for the CIA-front
organisation called USAID.
Was Boston Bombers 'Uncle Ruslan' with the CIA?
Obama's mother also worked for USAID, while being in the CIA, reportedly.
Uncle Ruslan Tsarni (Tsarnaev), of Montgomery Maryland, graduated from Duke Law
School in 1998 and is now a 'well-connected' oil executive and lawyer.
Uncle Ruslan appears to have links to a group of oil executives who, according
to The London Telegraph, comprise "a network of personal and business
relationships" allegedly used for "international corruption,"
Uncle Ruslan is currently involved in an international criminal investigation
into Timur Kulibayev, who has links to prince Andrew
Kulibayev from Kazakhstan
Kulibayev is the Kazakh billionaire alleged to have stolen $6 billion from
Kazakhstan's BTA Bank.
Kulibayev is married to Kulibayeva, the daughter of Kazakhstan's President
Prince Andrew sold his home to Kulibayev, who paid $5 million over the asking
The London Sunday Times on May 8, 2011.
According to The London Telegraph:
"A group of wealthy Kazakh oil executives and Prince Andrew's close friend Goga
Ashkenazi met at a Thai beach resort, when the deal to buy the Prince's home was
The group "was joined by a mystery man, who stayed in Miss Ashkenazi's private
villa, who used the alias "John Smith" on the resort's reservation record."
"The sale of the Sunninghill estate... has already raised concerns after it was
disclosed the buyer was an offshore trust belonging to Timur Kulibayev..."
Reportedly Kulibayev has a child by Goga Ashkenazi, a Kazakh socialite. 
Reportedly Kulibayev laundered money through offshore companies to hide his
purchase of Prince Andrew's house.
This emerged during a legal battle involving missing money.
Kulibayev from Kazakhstan
The purchase of Prince Andrew's house was put together, according to
prosecutors in Italy and Switzerland, by a group of oil executives who comprise
"a network of personal and business relationships" allegedly used for
"international corruption," according to The London Telegraph.
Exclusive: Prince Andrew's £15million home...
The Sunday Times reported, "A statement by Ruslan Zaindi Tsarni was given in
the High Court in December, claiming that Kulibayev bought Sunninghill and
properties in Mayfair with $96 million derived from a complex series of deals
intended to disguise money laundering."
"Tsarni alleged that the money came from the takeover of a western company,
which had been used as a front to obtain oil contracts from the Kazakh state."
The "western company" is said to be Big Sky Energy Corporation, where Ruslan
Tsarnaev was a top executive.
Before the Tsarnaev family moved to the United States, ten years ago, they
lived in the Kyrgyz town of Tokmok, near the border with Kazakhstan.
Tokmok is home to a large Chechen community.
Reportedly, organized crime boss Aziz Batukaev, who is also an ethnic Chechen,
lived next door to the Tsarnaevs.
Continued here: Was Boston Bombers 'Uncle Ruslan' with the CIA?
(Reuters) - Working out at the gym at their sleepy New England college, two
students chatted about how "crazy" it was that bombs exploded at the Boston
Marathon. Three days later, one of them was named a prime suspect.
Returning to campus on Sunday after being evacuated on Friday during a massive
manhunt for the bombers, students at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth
swapped recollections of seeing Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, back in the dorm, at
class and in the gym in the aftermath of the bombings.
Tsarnaev was working out in the gym from 8 to 10 p.m. on Tuesday, listening to
music on his iPod, when he struck up a conversation with fellow sophomore Zach
"It's crazy this is happening now," Bettencourt recalled Tsarnaev telling him
when the bombings came up.
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Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:49 am Post subject:
Wow! The first bit of one of the planes supposedly hijacked to be found that will be able to be linked to one of the 'NY' 'aircraft' by genuine numbers! Pretty smart that, the undercarriage conveniently 'wedging' itself between two buildings, with no one noticing it at the time, or even over twelve years!
They were fiendishly clever, those Muslim 'highjackers'!
I wonder how they managed to jettison the undercarriage like that?
(Having seen the BBC pics, I now realise how the 'Muslim 'highjackers' managed it; they obviously lowered it by the rope, just before they 'hit' the Tower). _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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'New York police say what appears to be part of the landing gear of one of jets flown into the World Trade Center on 11 September 2001 has been found.
The 5ft (1.52m) piece of metal, which bears a Boeing label and serial number, was wedged between two New York City buildings, police said....'
'The piece was found in a narrow, rubbish-filled space 18in (0.45m) wide.
Mr Kelly told reporters after inspecting it that a length of rope was looped around the piece of steel and that no marks were visible on the walls overhead, suggesting it could have been lowered from the rooftop.
The New York Police Department has secured the area behind 51 Park Place and 50 Murray Street as a crime scene...'
BBC is more cautious than CNN! Perhaps they don't want another 'Jane Standley' moment.. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
BOSTON POLICE CHIEFS WANT DRONES FOR SURVEILLANCE AT NEXT YEARS MARATHON. ORWELL WAS RIGHT WHENS HATE DAY STARTING _________________ If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it. - Edward Bernays
During the first 2 seconds of the above video you can see another guy with his trouers 'blown off' walking around. Is he the same guy seen running (with shredded trousers) immediately after the blast? Seen here after 1.02 minutes...
(there is time lapse video somewhere that I have seen)
The large lady with the brown hoodie also features in the 1st video. She goes towards shop right of shot and another lady runs after her and leads (pushes) her back to where they came from.
I've seen her pictured standing alone outside a shop and next to the fence. Just trying to get a time reference.
I'm afraid that there is something very VERY wrong with the images from this 'bomb site'.
Ruslan Tsarni, who publicly denounced his two terrorist nephews' actions and called them 'Losers', even lived with his father-in-law agent Graham Fuller in his Maryland home for a year.
Mr Fuller was forced to explain the relationship today as news of the family link emerged online.
Son-in-law: Former CIA agent Graham Fuller, left, explained his relationship to the two Boston terror suspects' uncle today. Ruslan Tsarni, right, was married for three years to his daughter, Samantha
He told Al-Monitor that his daughter, Samantha, was married to Ruslan, whose surname was then Tsarnaev, for three to four years in the 1990s.
The couple divorced in 1999 more than ten years after he left the agency in 1987.
'Samantha was married to Ruslan Tsarnaev (Tsarni) for 3-4 years, and they lived in Bishkek for one year where Samantha was working for Price Waterhouse on privatization projects,' Mr Fuller said.
'They also lived in our house in [Maryland] for a year or so and they were divorced in 1999, I believe.
'I, of course, retired from CIA in 1987 and had moved on to working as a senior political scientist for RAND.'
He said his son-in-law showed no interest in the agency or politics but spoke generally about his family in Chechnya.
He said any attempts to portray the relationship as a link between the security agency and the two terrorists was 'absurd'.
'Like all Chechens, Ruslan was very concerned about his native land, but I saw no particular involvement in politics,' Fuller told Al-Monitor.
'I doubt he even had much to say of intelligence value other than talking about his own family’s sad tale of deportation from Chechnya by Stalin to Central Asia. Every Chechen family has such stories.'
Fuller visited his daughter and her husband in Bishek, as a former Russian history graduate himself interested in 'Soviet minorities'.
He said he may have met the terror suspects' father, Aznor, there once and his daughter knew the Tsarnaev family when Tamerlan was a toddler and before his younger brother was born.
'I for one was astonished at the events, and to find myself at two degrees of separation from them,' he added.
Ruslan Tsarni, who lives in Montgomery Village, Maryland, was thrust into the spotlight as the names of his two nephews emerged in connection to the Boston terror attack.
He stood on his driveway and attacked the two men calling them 'Losers'.
He has since reported a rift between his family and that of his brother Aznor's and said his older nephew Tamerlan had become increasingly extreme in his religious views.
He said he last spoke to him in 2009 when he declared he was dropping out of school to do 'God's business' and Tsarni was concerned at his religious fervor.
'[The bombing] has nothing to do with Chechen … He put a shame on our family, he put a shame on the entire Chechen ethnicity,' he told broadcasters in the aftermath of the bombings
He also told reporters that Tamerlan had a friend called Misha who 'brainwashed' him.
'This person just took his brain. He just brainwashed him completely,' he said.
FBI agents today said they had tracked down Misha and believed he had no link to the terror attacks.
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The investigation into Monday’s deadly bombing at the Boston Marathon has officially gone international: law enforcement officials from Israel have been sent to the United States to assist in the probe.
Israel Police Chief Yohanan Danino says he has dispatched officials to Boston, Massachusetts, where they will meet with Federal Bureau of Investigation agents and other authorities, the Times of Israel Reports.
Citing an earlier report published by the newspaper Maariv, Times of Israel writes that Danino has dispatched police officers to participate in discussions that “will center on the Boston Marathon bombings and deepening professional cooperation between the law enforcement agencies of both countries.”
The paper reports that Israeli law enforcement planned the trip before the deadly pair of bombings on Monday that has so far claimed three lives, but the discussions will now shift focus in order to see how help from abroad can expand the investigation.
In an address made Tuesday, Israel President Shimon Peres said that tragedies such as this week’s incident in Boston, sadly, bring people together from across the world.
“When it comes to events like this, all of us are one family. We feel a part of the people who paid such a high price. God bless them,” Peres said. “Today the real problem is terror, and terror is not an extension of policy: Their policy is terror, their policy is to threaten. Terrorists divide people, they kill innocent people.”
Around 20 hours after two bombs detonated near the finish line of the annual race, United States President Barack Obama went on record to condemn the tragedy as a terrorist attack.
“This was a heinous and cowardly act,” said Obama from the White House, “and given what we now know the FBI is investigating it as an act of terrorism.”
But even as officials come to assist from as far away as Israel, authorities are still in the dark as far as finding any leads in the case. Pres. Obama has directed the FBI and US Department of Homeland Security to assist in the investigation, but no agencies have identified suspects or motives at this time.
Pres. Obama has also said that his administration has been directed to implement “appropriate security measures to protect the American people,” but details as to what that could mean remain scarce. Meanwhile, at least one leading lawmaker is asking for the US to respond to the terrorist attack by increasing the scope of the ever-expanding surveillance program already growing across the United States.
“I do think we need more cameras,” Rep. Peter King (R-New York) told MSNBC after Monday’s attacks. “We have to stay ahead of the terrorists and I do know in New York, the Manhattan Security Initiative, which is based on cameras, the outstanding work that results from that. So yes, I do favor more cameras. They're a great law enforcement device. And again, it keeps us ahead of the terrorists, who are constantly trying to kill us.”
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has also confirmed that he has dispatched law enforcement officers from the Big Apple to assist in the investigation by meeting with agents at a Boston fusion center, one of the DHS-funded data facilities that collects surveillance camera footage and other evidence in order to analyze events like Monday’s attack.
“We are certainly engaged in the information flow with the FBI through our Joint Terrorism Task Force. We have two New York City police officers, police sergeants, who are in the Boston Regional Intelligence Center,” Bloomberg said on Tuesday. “They’re up there, they’ve been up there since last evening.”
But in a study conducted last year by the Senate’s bipartisan Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, lawmakers found that those fusion centers have been more or less unhelpful in assisting with terrorism probes.
The Department of Homeland Security’s work with state and local fusion centers, the subcommittee wrote, “has not produced useful intelligence to support federal counterterrorism efforts.” Instead, they added, so-called “intelligence” shared between facilities consisted of tidbits of shoddy quality that was often outdated and “sometimes endangering [to] citizen‘s civil liberties and Privacy Act protections.”
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