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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No - agreed - but we had a good go at the subject last night#


Great job, Tony. I don't know how you can keep your cool on these subjects!

Ditto with this lovely woman, Sarah Bajc, on BBC last night. She blames the governments.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More on the Israeli photo of an identical Boeing 777 from Jim Stone

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I looked into this and it actually took some thinking to confirm this was NOT a hoax, and it is not a hoax. I confirmed that it was not a hoax by putting the plane's exact designation into Google with a dated search that forced all results to be prior to March of 2014. It is indeed a Malaysia flight 370 clone, with Malaysia airlines paint identical to flight 370, and it is indeed parked at Tel Aviv, and has been there since 21-10-2013.

To get the history of this plane and prove this story is not a hoax, drop the search term N105GT GA Telesis Boeing 777-2H6(ER) - cn 28416 / ln 155 into Google. Do a dated search to only return results from before March, and hit images. This will yield the four photos below:

UPDATE: These appear to be censored again, and I will fix that permanently.

The plane is owned by GA telesis and has been sitting there, in Tel Aviv, in storage, as stated. Now, to the non-conspiracy crowd, GA Telesis is an aircraft leasing firm. SO, I guess you could say that explains why this plane is in storage. But I'd like to pop a question then, WHY IN TEL AVIV WHEN THE HOST COMPANY IS HEADQUARTERED IN FLORIDA, THE SAME STATE THE PLANE THE DUTCH INTERCEPTED FLEW OUT OF? . . . . . Good question.

The blog which originally posted this plane was in Tel Aviv has been censored from Google. If I manage to find it again (I had to leave the cyber cafe in the middle of this because they closed for lunch and it was extremely difficult to re-find this data) I will post the original blog that had this as an update. It ended up being bang on.


And this seems to support the cyber hijacking theory ...

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This image, which appears black was posted as taken in a dark cell by an IBM engineer. The picture malfunctioned because the cell was too dark, but a critical piece of information was embedded in the Exif data, the coordinates to Diego Garcia, where the picture was taken. And it's real, this is NOT a hoax. The coordinates in the picture indicate that the photo was taken within 3 miles of what Google officially gives for Diego Garcia. It is NOT EXACTLY what comes up on Google. It is off a couple miles, so NO ONE GOOGLED THIS, thus helping to confirm it's authenticity. I don't know how big the island is, but if it has a runway, that certainly fits.

The picture posted with the following text: "I have been held hostage by unknown military personal after my flight was hijacked (blindfolded). I work for IBM and I have managed to hide my cellphone in my ass during the hijack. I have been separated from the rest of the passengers and I am in a cell. My name is Philip Wood. I think I have been drugged as well and cannot think clearly."

MY COMMENT: For what it's worth, the Exif is intact. Exif data gets embedded in every image by every camera and includes the circumstances under which the photo was taken. It can be viewed by saving the image to the left to your desktop, and then right clicking it and selecting image properties. Hit the details tab. You can see that the image was taken on March 18 with an Iphone 5, with the ISO at 3200 and a shutter of 1/15. It states no flash was used, which is the only oddity here. But the coordinates are included in the exif data because the Iphone knows where it is, and the coordinates are for Diego Garcia.

Obviously I cannot confirm this 100 percent as real, but I do know that exif can't be rewritten with common software, it can only be added to with some applications and that photos with the exif intact will hold up in court. If the Exif is hacked and this is not real, the CIA or a really good hacker did this, which I doubt, I'd say it's probably real.

Surrounding this story is the fact that the man who managed to get this information to Farganne was harassed and received many threatening voice mails over it, that is another piece of evidence pointing to this as being real. One thing is certain, once it's posted here on this site the genie is OUT OF THE BOTTLE. I cannot stress how important it is that the GPS coordinates in the photo do not perfectly match what Google says, because it proves that the source of those coordinates did not come from google, they really did come from the imaging device.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chasing up the sources...
1) The second 777
2) The suppose photo from Philip Wood.



1) The second 777
This is the site describing the Malaysian airlines stored in Tel Av
http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Boeing/777/28416,N105GT-G A-Telesis-php

It looks better at the link but I thought the data should be copied here.

Airframe Details
Construction Number (MSN) 28416
Line Number 155
Aircraft Type Boeing 777-2H6(ER)
First Flight 25-07-1998
Age 15.7 Years
Airframe Status Stored

9M-MRI Boeing 777-2H6(ER) Malaysia Airlines 2x RR Trent 892 C35Y247 20-10-1998 Leased from ALAFCO
wfu 08-04-2013
std at LDE 04-10-2013
N105GT Boeing 777-2H6(ER) GA Telesis 2x RR Trent 892 21-10-2013 std at TLV 04-11-2013

A pop-up describes that LDE is Lordes airport, France
and TLV is Tel Aviv Ben Gurion airport.

2) The suppose photo from Philip Wood.

The original source of Jim Stone's black image was here:

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/27834494/#q27835188_11

The provenance isn't good. A geek's chatroom?!

There is exif information on the Jim Stone black photo. Many s/w developers could insert this text into a blank jpg. (I understand it is difficult to edit).

Camera
Apple iPhone 5
GPS Position
7.316197 degrees S, 72.426544 degrees E
Date of Creation
2014:03:18 20:49:41
Resolution
240x320

The resolution is way too small for an iPhone - so its already been modified. An iPhone 5 up the anus? (extreme!) An old nokia may have fitted easier. The terminology used was not exactly the standard expected from an IBM exec. Philip Wood's name was given out immediately by the airlines. There is static in the image but no real image.

My conclusion: probably fake.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ scienceplease 2: 'An iPhone 5 up the anus? (extreme!)':

I wouldn't fancy it, but possible, especially in such dire conditions of a highjacking (I have seen some huge turds stuck in public toilets!):

Dimensions of iPhone 5:
Height: 123.8 mm (4.87 inches)
Width: 58.6 mm (2.31 inches)
Depth: 7.6 mm (0.30 inches)

On 'Video calling', iPhone give this info: HVGA-resolution (480x368) calls over Wi-Fi, so perhaps under some circs it might be able to have resolution of 240x320.
If as Stone speculates he was under US control, their 'blindfolding', he says, would be by locked bags over the head, leaving his hands free, but obviously unable to see camera controls. Stone reckons he used 'voice controls' to tell the camera what to do.

I suggest people re-check Stone's website, as he updates it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe there is a general view on here that Malaysia is anti-American; it was under Mahathir bin Mohamad, but has now swung towards America. Also, they are in the TPP, or Trans-Pacific Partnership, negotiations.
This could explain why they are playing along with America if in fact MH 370 was diverted to Diego Garcia.
They have certainly not appeared to be being very truthful on the affair.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Internet being tested methinks on this one
Probably a war provocation to China mainly
Also way to weed out last remaining honest intelligence people from NATO military?
Also stab in the eye for unruly Malaysia
This pure disinfo surely?
Agree with SP
Hmmmmm
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/591800-diego-garcia-philip-wood-ibm-en gineer-on-flight-mh370-posts-photo-from-prison/

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whitehall_Bin_Men wrote:
Internet being tested methinks on this one
Probably a war provocation to China mainly
Also way to weed out last remaining honest intelligence people from NATO military?
Also stab in the eye for unruly Malaysia
This pure disinfo surely?
Agree with SP
Hmmmmm
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/591800-diego-garcia-philip-wood-ibm-en gineer-on-flight-mh370-posts-photo-from-prison/


Try to get the link now! All I can get is an ad. But there are other sites that cover it, including RT. I'll try that one. But it is a sign that 'someone' is displeased; Epoch Times is generally pro-American, and anti-Mainland China.

I've now managed to get the Epoch Times article, on the same link as above:
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/591800-diego-garcia-philip-wood-ibm-en gineer-on-flight-mh370-posts-photo-from-prison/

Nothing new; it has 'mentioned' some of the contentious stuff about Diego Garcia, but doesn't seem to touch the sister plane in Malasian livery parked at Tel Aviv since September 2013.
Also, none of them address the well-publicised relatives getting the ringing tone when they phoned their relatives on the plane. One offiicial said the phone he tried got no response, but that is neither here nor there. The one's who did get the ringing tone were relatives of passengers on the plane: they had no reason to lie. If the phones rang, then they should be easily traceable, because if they were near enough a booster tower for them to ring the tower would 'know' their location.
This to me points to the plane being in some State's control (my guess is obviously on a US base, probably Diego Garcia). The phone companies must know this, but won't release the information to the public.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recovered debris is NOT from MH flight but didnt say what it was from. If you have satellite imagery showing up hundreds of floating objects is that quite common to any area of the oceans--if its not then what are these objects from.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More on the 'Selfie' posted by IBM engineer Philip Wood. For the record, I am not commenting on the validity of this information but putting it out there for the those qualified (including all you shrills) to comment on.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No mention of Sarah.
Geo coordinates easily change in exif data using mappr.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also Cynthia McKinney has been doing stirling work interviewing former top Malaysian lawyer and former presidential adviser Matthias Chang

http://cprnews.podbean.com/2014/04/01/cpr-news-april-1-2014/

Military exercises round MH370, top Malaysian adviser/lawyer
http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/75122

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH TOP AIDE TO FORMER MALAYSIAN PM: WHAT IS THE US HIDING REGARDING MALAYSIAN FLIGHT 370?

Today's report from Community Public Radio - more great programming at www.CPRmetro.org

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No mention of Sarah.
Geo coordinates easily change in exif data using mappr.


Never mind exif data What about the actual mobile number it was posted from and time.?

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No mention of Sarah.
Geo coordinates easily change in exif data using mappr.


Never mind exif data What about the actual mobile number it was posted from and time.?


What mobile number? I've seen no reference to a mobile number. The photo was posted online with some text. As I pointed out the text is less than compelling. He surely would have said his name first and then mention Sarah. He wouldn't mention where he had hidden his phone. As an IBM exec he is unlikely to say "Ass" or use some of the other grammar styles in the message.

The original post point, I believe was in a geek forum.

What about the time?

The findingphlipwood facebook has dismissed other texts purporting to be from Philip.
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No mention of Sarah.
Geo coordinates easily change in exif data using mappr.


Never mind exif data What about the actual mobile number it was posted from and time.?


What mobile number? I've seen no reference to a mobile number. The photo was posted online with some text. As I pointed out the text is less than compelling. He surely would have said his name first and then mention Sarah. He wouldn't mention where he had hidden his phone. As an IBM exec he is unlikely to say "Ass" or use some of the other grammar styles in the message.

The original post point, I believe was in a geek forum.

What about the time?

The findingphlipwood facebook has dismissed other texts purporting to be from Philip.


Thats what I meant--no number, therefore most likely a hoax

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi folks - I just did this on the BBC Daily Politics
Hope I done good - !! Wanted to mention 9/11 but... can't do it all Sad

Malaysia MH370: BBC Daily Politics Conspiracy Theories David Aaronovitch & Tony Gosling
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26871156 and

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah you done good Tony

Interesting challenge by Andrew Neil to name a conspiracy that at the time was ridiculed but is now accepted as proven

Always difficult when placed on the spot like that to smoothly reel off a coherent answer in 30 seconds

With a bit of time to think, I'd probably either give a long list of examples like

Hillsborough
Birmingham 6 and Guildford 4
Extraordinary rendition and overseas torture camps
NSA spying scandals
Govt's hidden mine closure plans ahead of the miners strike
Denials of Israel's nuclear weapons
Martin Luther King's assassination
David Kelly's murder
The false allegation of Iraq's link to 9/11
The dodgy sexed up dossiers
The fictitious Kuwaiti incubator story
Tonkin Bay
Jessica Lynch
Pergua dam
Churchill Matrix and arms to Iraq
The "Steak knife affair"
Cover-up and lies of Jean Charles de Menezes
Bilderberg meetings
Inan-Contra

etc, etc, etc

Th point being there are too many to list. Are you really telling me Andrew you can't think of any more?

Or alternatively pick one or two but link it back to the BBC

So you could answer, "well Andrew, it was actually a couple of excellent BBC documentaries, back when the BBC did investigative journalism, that turned me onto the reality of conspiracies.

The first was 2002 film Death in the Water about the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in which 34 sailors were killed and the second was a BBC Timewatch series made in 1992 about Operation Gladio and state collusion with terrorist groups in the 1970s and 80s including the Bologna Railway Station bombing in which 85 people were killed"

Anyway like I say it's easy to answer if you have a spare 10 minutes to think. Not so easy when you have to instantly reply

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Hi folks - I just did this on the BBC Daily Politics
Hope I done good - !!


Aaranovitch (alongside Andrew Neal)? blasted hell Tony. You don't choose the easy ones. Next time Tony just tell the truth. Something like "Aaranovitch you are a lying, prejudiced, stupid *%~# and a shrill for the Zionists to boot."

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Big development possibly today on this as the Chinese announce on TWITTER that they have picked up pulses OUTSIDE the Inmarsat search areas

Chinese search vessel discovers pulse signal in Indian Ocean
Chinese patrol ship Haixun 01, searching for the missing Malaysian passenger jet MH370, detected a pulse signal with a frequency of 37.5kHz per second in southern Indian Ocean waters Saturday. A black box detector deployed by the Haixun 01 picked up the signal at around 25 degrees south latitude and 101 degrees east longtitude. It is yet to be established whether it is related to the missing jet. (Xinhua/Chen Weiwei)
ABOARD PATROL SHIP HAIXUN 01, April 5 (Xinhua) -- Chinese patrol ship Haixun 01, searching for the missing Malaysian passenger jet MH370, detected a pulse signal with a frequency of 37.5kHz per second in southern Indian Ocean waters Saturday.
A black box detector deployed by the Haixun 01 picked up the signal at around 25 degrees south latitude and 101 degrees east longtitude. It is yet to be established whether it is related to the missing jet.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-04/05/c_133241023.htm

Malaysia Airlines MH370: black box ping detected - reports
Chinese vessel picks up 'pulse signal' from South Indian Ocean, according to state media reports
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10746529/Malay sia-Airlines-MH370-black-box-ping-detected-reports.html



And here's Learmount preparing us for the news that Inmarsat etc. may have been misdirecting the search

Flight MH370: 'Hunt for black box may be in the wrong area'
Expert says searchers 'have no idea where to look' – and the batteries of the flight recorder of the Malaysia Airlines plane are running out
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/05/flight-mh370-hunt-wrong-a rea

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Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: Opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim says government is concealing information
Ibrahim claims handling of investigation is 'clearly suspect' and 'critical information' surrounding the plane's disappearance is missing
HEATHER SAUL Author Biography Friday 04 April 2014
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/missing-malaysia-airlines -flight-mh370-opposition-leader-anwar-ibrahim-accuses-government-of-co ncealing-information-9237766.html
The Malaysian government has deliberately concealed information concerning the missing Malaysia Airlines flight, Anwar Ibrahim, the country’s main opposition leader, has claimed.
Mr Ibrahim, who knew one of the pilots of the Boeing 777 personally, said the handling of the MH370 investigation was “ clearly suspect” and claimed “information critical to our understanding” is missing.
In an interview with The Telegraph , Mr Ibrahim slammed Malaysian authorities and called for an international committee to take over the investigation because “the integrity of the whole nation is at stake”.
He indicated it was even possible there could have been complicity by authorities on the ground over what happened to the plane after it disappeared on 8 March en route to Kuala Lumpur from Beijing with 239 people on board.
The politician told the newspaper that when he was the country’s finance minister in 1994 he personally authorised the installation of “one of the most sophisticated radar” systems in the world, based near the South China Sea and covering Malaysia’s mainland and east and west coastlines.
The radar would have instantly detected the Boeing 777 as it travelled east to west across “at least four” Malaysian provinces, he said, describing the fact that the plane was not spotted by the sophisticated radar immediately after it changed course as "not only unacceptable but not possible, not feasible".
His accusations came as a high-tech US Navy pinger locater was deployed in the race against time to find the black box from the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, just days before its batteries are due to run out.
Two ships with sophisticated equipment are searching underwater in a remote stretch of the Indian Ocean in an operation led by the Joint Agencies Coordination Centre (JACC).
The pingers on the plane’s black box transmit signals for about 30 days after a crash – giving search teams just days to find the recorder and potentially discover what happened to the jetliner.


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So the pilot signed off Malay ATC unaware TWO tracking devices had been turned off 15min ago. Next minute the plane made a turn, then rose to 45k feet, then down to 22k and disappeared. But Rolls Royce and Inmarsat continued to receive signals for a further 6 hours, until the final cryptic double ping. The plane is in Diego Garcia, they tried to fool us into thinking it was Iranian with 911 boxcutters. Nobody is buying, the Maersk Alabama deaths, the one-off 72 hour air curfew over DG, etc are not coincidences. Once again they want us to believe some cave dwellers brought down the 110 story WTCs.


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Rolls Royce received signals showing the engines were good at landing and switch-off?! The sheer spin of Doppler (and doppleganger) genius of British scientists to work out the area of "crash" should be enough to convince anybody the devils are LYING ! So the British didnt have enough genius to report the plane was still pinging for 6 hours after loss of ATC contact, whilst the whole world was wrongly searching the South China Sea for seven WHOLE days?! Satanic and evil.

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Yeh, sure. Did the US 'forget' they had 'high-tech pingers' till now?

Or is this just an attempt to 'put the story to sleep'?

Relatives of the 'victims', if not their governments, should ask the US what the heck they have been playing at?

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Chagos islanders' history

Producer Andrew Tkach and correspondent Christian Amanpour report on the hushed up eviction of the indigenous people of Diego Garcia to make way for one of America's most strategic air and navy bases. The full story aired on CBS News 60 Minutes.

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Lets us begin.

1) Was the plane ordered to turn back, if so who gave the order?

2) Was the plane turned back manually or by remote control?

3) If the latter, which country or countries have the technologies to execute such an operation?

4) Was MH 370 weaponised before its flight to Beijing?

5) If so, what are the likely methods for such a mission – Biological weapons, dirty bombs?

6) Was Beijing / China the target and if so why?

7) Qui Bono?

Cool The time sequence of countries identifying the alleged MH 370 debris in the Indian ocean was first made by Australia followed by France, Thailand, Japan, and Britain via Immarsat. Why did US not offer any satellite intelligence till today?

9) Prior to the switch of focus to the Indian ocean, was the SAR mission in the South China seas, used as a cover for the deployment of undersea equipment to track and monitor naval capabilities of all the nations’ navies competing for ownership of disputed territorial waters? Reuters as quoted above seems to have suggested such an outcome.



10) Why was there been no focus, especially by foreign mass media, on the intelligence and surveillance capabilities of Diego Garcia, the strategic naval and air base of the US?

11) Why no questions were asked whether the flight path of MH 370 (if as alleged it crashed in the Indian Ocean), was within the geographical parameters of the Intelligence capabilities of Diego Garcia? Why were no planes deployed from Diego Garcia to intercept the “Unidentified” plane which obviously would pose a threat to the Diego Gracia military base?

12) The outdated capabilities of the Hexagon satellite system deployed by the US in the 1970s has a ground resolution of 0.6 meters; what’s more, the present and latest technologies boast the ability to identify objects much smaller in size. Why have such satellites not provided any images of the alleged debris in the Indian Ocean? Were they deliberately withheld?

13) On April 6th, 2012, the US launched a mission dubbed “NROL-25” (consisting of a spy satellite) from the Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. The NROL-25 satellite was likely rigged with “synthetic aperture radar” a system capable of observing targets around the globe in daylight and darkness, able to penetrate clouds and identify underground structures such as military bunkers. Though the true capabilities of the satellites are not publicly known due to their top-secret classification, some analysts have claimed that the technology allows the authorities to zoom in on items as small as a human fist from hundreds of miles away. How is it that no imagery of MH370 debris was forwarded to Malaysia, as this capability is not classified though other technologies might well remain classified? (Source: Slate.com)

14) Could it be that the above capabilities were not as touted?

15) However, in December, 2013, the USAtlas V rocket was launched carrying the spy satellite NROL-39 for the National Reconnaissance Office, an intelligence agency which is often overshadowed by the notorious National Security Agency (NSA), only it scoops data via spy satellites in outer space. The “NROL-39 emblem” is represented by the Octopus a versatile, adaptive, and highly intelligent creature. Emblematically, enemies of the United States can be reached no matter where they choose to hide. The emblem boldly states “Nothing is beyond our reach”. This virtually means that the tentacles of America’s World Octopus are spreading across the globe to coil around everything within their grasp, which is, well

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Great job, Tony. I don't know how you can keep your cool on these subjects!

Ditto with this lovely woman, Sarah Bajc, on BBC last night. She blames the governments.


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Sarah Bajac wrote on findingphilipwood370 5th April, the following in response to a suspicion that MH370 landed on Diego Garcia...

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There must be a reason why they [the USA] aren't talking. perhaps negotiations are under way. i am sure the cell phone message is a hoax, because that is not philip's writing style, and he would have mentioned me before his employer. we need input from military and political experts. why might the plane have been taken by malaysia, us, china, etc. it will be one of those discussions that might help to move this investigation along
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Umno mouthpiece Utusan Malaysia today said there may be truth to a conspiracy theory blaming the Central Intelligence Agency, or CIA, for the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.
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The daily's assistant editor Ku Seman Ku Hussein said it was time "to think outside the box" about the biggest tragedy to affect Malaysia and the world aviation history, saying the incident could be a ploy to tarnish the good relations between Malaysia and China.
"If the CIA could arrange for the attack on the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001, it is not improbable to link MH370 with the intelligence agency," he wrote, referring to speculations on the involvement of American intelligence in the 9/11 attacks.
"What if the MH370 tragedy had been arranged by certain parties to put Malaysia's relationship with China in jeopardy?" Ku Seman asked in an opinion piece in the paper’s weekend edition Mingguan Malaysia.
He said conspiracies at the highest levels involving the CIA with the September 11 tragedy were not something new, adding that facts and convincing arguments had been put forward to support this claim.
"Many parties have accepted that the September 11 incident was a plan by the United States to get a free ticket to attack Afghanistan and Iraq," Ku Seman said.
A month after the 9/11 attacks which were blamed on al-Qaeda's Osama Bin Laden, President George Bush launched an attack on Afghanistan, hoping to remove the Taliban which had been providing Osama a safe haven.
Ku Seman said Malaysia ought to have its suspicion of outside parties with "wild past", which it said wanted to disrupt the country's bilateral ties with China.
"The September 11 conspiracy which had been previously treated as nonsense was now a fact, and Putrajaya must look at it from a different point of view."

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Point of information: Putrajaya is the administrative centre of Malasia.

Putrajaya is a planned city, located 25 km south of Kuala Lumpur, that serves as the federal administrative centre of Malaysia. The seat of government was shifted in 1999 from Kuala Lumpur to Putrajaya, due to the overcrowding and congestion in the Kuala Lumpur areas. Nevertheless, Kuala Lumpur remains Malaysia's national capital, being the seat of the King and Parliament, as well as the country's commercial and financial centre. Putrajaya was the brainchild of former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohammad. In 2001, Putrajaya became Malaysia's third Federal Territory after Kuala Lumpur and Labuan.

Named after the first Malaysian Prime Minister, Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra, the city is situated within the Multimedia Super Corridor, beside the recently developed Cyberjaya. In sanskrit, the words "putra" or "putera" means "prince" or "male child," and "jaya" means "success" or "victory." The development of Putrajaya started in early 1990s, and today major landmarks have been completed and the population is expected to grow in the near future..' (Wikipedia)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sarah Bajc again.

Claims the plane is still intact. No reason to believe plane is Indian Ocean. Malaysian radar tracked the 777, even had fighter escort. Many of the families reject the official story.


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Skip straight to the bit where Sarah talks about the airliner's 'fighter escort' http://youtu.be/jpKot27qbyw?t=5m16s
This has whiff of disinfo though - is Sarah Bajc trustworthy? Is she Philip Wood's wife? Who can possibly have seen fighters escorting this airliner at night over the Indian Ocean...?

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Skip straight to the bit where Sarah talks about the airliner's 'fighter escort' http://youtu.be/jpKot27qbyw?t=5m16s
This has whiff of disinfo though - is Sarah Bajc trustworthy? Is she Philip Wood's wife? Who can possibly have seen fighters escorting this airliner at night over the Indian Ocean...?


Sarah is Peter's partner. Her facebook page is open and you can inspect easily.

She claims that one of the families had heard that Malaysian air force fighters escorted the 777 through Malaysian airspace - I presume in order to stop aerial collisions as MH370 would have been invisible to civilian traffic. If Malaysia opened up its radar logs for that evening the truth or otherwise of the claim could be tested.
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“Flight 370 Was Remote-Hijacked”

Author, barrister and political advisor Matthias Chang

A high-level Malaysian source has confirmed that missing Flight MH370 must have been hijacked by remote control.

Matthias Chang, a barrister who served as Political Secretary to the Fourth Prime Minister of Malaysia, Dr. Mahathir Mohamad, explained why only a remote-hijacking “fly by wire” scenario can explain the plane’s disappearance.

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In an exclusive interview with Truth Jihad Radio, Chang – who remains well-connected with the highest political levels in Malaysia – patiently explained why all of the evidence points to a remote hijacking by one of the handful of countries capable of such a technological feat. He expressed annoyance with Western media criticism of the Malaysian government, arguing that it is Western governments, not Malaysia’s, that are covering up what they know while the media fails to ask the hard questions.

...Matthias Chang told me: “I want to raise a point that has not been much discussed in either the mainstream or alternative media, which is that the technology of autopilot has been in existence for a long time. Since September 11th, more sophisticated systems have been placed in all planes to avoid any hijackings. If there is a hijacking in progress it kicks in and flies to an airport to land safely. The system can be triggered by the pilot himself from the cockpit, or it can be triggered by ground control. And by ‘ground control’ I mean it can be operated from land, an AWAC plane, or a ship, by an entity that has the capability and technology to fly the plane remotely. That technology is out there.”

Chang pointed out that only remote-hijacking can explain the plane’s flight path: “This plane is flying for six hours on its own. Who’s flying the plane? The entity flying the plane must be those with the technology that’s used now to pilot drones. We know drones have been flown in Afghanistan from Florida. We have seen video tapes and news broadcasts about how ‘pilots’ in Florida are flying planes and drones in Afghanistan as if they are playing computer games.”

Chang explained that the Western media’s pilot suicide hypothesis “doesn’t hold water. If you’re a pilot, why turn back, go north to Thailand where there are military exercises going on, and you will know from the radar that other planes are flying, then turn south and fly for six hours? That’s ridiculous. Also, most suicides leave notes explaining why. This is another huge question mark. Why this accusation of the pilot, when the facts are inconsistent with suicide?”

Suggesting that the Western countries have been leading the public on a wild goose chase, Chang explained:

“During the past four weeks, we have heard of various countries providing data. Australia said there were two floating objects west of Perth, but when ships were sent they were not found. France, also, said they discovered two objects. When the search planes went, these too couldn’t be found. The satellite of Thailand (a US client state) found two objects. It was sea rubbish. This was followed by (US occupied) Japan saying they found objects. But those objects were not MH370s. The British firm Inmarsat, using its calculations, said the plane would have crashed in the area where the objects were located. But subsequently Boeing, doing new calculations projecting faster flight at lower altitude, said the plane could have ended somewhere 1000 miles north of the previously projected location.”

Were all of these people ordered to look in all the wrong places – by a military high command that knows perfectly well where the plane is?

Chang continues:

“Given all this information, it’s crystal clear, clear as day, that the one country that has the most sophisticated surveillance technology has remained mute. They may have given sealed evidence – I don’t know. But no public announcement.

“America has the most advanced satellites in the world…it can detect an object the size of a coin, look at bunkers buried deep underground. NROL 39 (the US National Reconnaissance Office) uses the octopus emblem. It states clearly that enemies of America cannot hide because ‘nothing is beyond our reach.’ The octopus’s tentacles encompass the whole globe. I find it very odd that America has been reticent, conspicuously silent, about what their satellites have shown, if anything.”

What makes it especially odd that the US will not admit it tracked the plane is that the flight path involved some of America’s most sensitive military areas:

“As MH370 reached the airspace of Vietnam it went north toward Thailand where the US-run Cobra Gold and Cope Tiger military exercises were being held. Then, allegedly, the plane ended in the Indian Ocean. But there is no evidence or debris. Now what is conspicuous…is that when a plane goes past Southern Thailand into the Indian Ocean, it has to fly past a very important landmark: Diego Garcia, a secretive US military base. It was from this base that the US launched bombers to Afghanistan, Iraq, and Vietnam before that. Surely this base has some of the most sophisticated surveillance technology. Any unidentified plane that flew in the direction of Diego Garcia would certainly be located and identified.”

... (parallels with 9/11 and 7/7 removed)

Chang observed that Christopher Bollyn, whose book Solving 9/11 implicates Israel and its US agents in the worst terrorist attack in US history, has discovered indications that the disappearance of MH370 might be connected with another false-flag plot: “Bollyn exposed how, immediately after the hijacking (of MH370), the Times of Israel put out propaganda that the plane was hijacked by agents of Iran, then landed in Bangladesh to weaponize the plane to carry out a diabolical attack like September 11th.” (Bollyn also discovered a suspicious “evil twin” of MH370 hidden in an Israeli hangar...)

Chang said that the media’s focus on the search for the MH370′s black box is a deception. “We’ve been diverted to look for the black box. bs! There are plenty of signals.” Chang asserts that both Boeing, a leading US military contractor, and the Rolls-Royce company that makes the plane’s engines, know exactly what happened to MH370, because they are constantly fed signals giving them every significant detail about all of their planes including exactly location, altitude, airspeed, engine function, manual or autopilot, and so on.

Regarding Rolls-Royce, Chang said:

“As long as the engine is running, they monitor it. If anything goes wrong with the engine for any reason, they land the plane and abort the flight. There have been a couple of instances when Rolls-Royce detected malfunctions and told the pilot to land as soon as possible due to the malfunction.

“So for six hours or more, Rolls-Royce would have kept track of the pings. Rolls-Royce would know where the plane’s going. Now I’m told, rightly or wrongly, that in the protocol, Rolls-Royce may be prohibited from disclosing this information.”

Likewise, Malaysia has been prevented from disclosing the sealed evidence it has been provided by one or more unnamed countries – or even the name of that country or countries.

But despite the gag order, Chang thinks the evidence speaks for itself: “There is cyber war between these (larger) countries, and we small countries are caught in the middle. I think the passengers were collateral damage.”

Chang’s conclusion about Flight 370?

“Under the cover of the military exercises, something diabolical, something catastrophic, has happened.”
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qui Bono?

If we have cyber attack and remote hijacking this could put a spanner in the works of most aircraft and also drone technologies.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Qui Bono?

If we have cyber attack and remote hijacking this could put a spanner in the works of most aircraft and also drone technologies.


I presume you have seen the details of the sister aircraft in TelAviv?
I presume you saw the immediate response of a supposed hijacking?

This looks like a false flag gone wrong.

Who benefits from the reveal that it was a remote hijacking? Hopefully the rest of us. A spanner in the works? Let's hope so...
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