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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chemtrail nozzles discovered?
Just like crop circles
Fiction
Are you sure this is not Pylon Drains, as seen in the A320 manual?
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22626&view=find post&p=10811715



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
Chemtrail nozzles discovered?
Just like crop circles
Fiction
Are you sure this is not Pylon Drains, as seen in the A320 manual?
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22626&view=find post&p=10811715


You found that, not us. Perhaps you should have read on a bit:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?s=96a8e3c76aaab42fd9ed930 948cf9d80&showtopic=22626&st=0&p=10811715&#entry10811715

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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 1 2014, 09:52 PM) *
We are in the same place I expressed to you the last time Harold, (along with many others who have concerns regarding 'chemtrails').

P4T has more Pilots than most Airlines have started with... including such Majors as Delta, Northwest, USAir... i could go on.

"Chemtrails" are perhaps the easiest "theory" to prove. All we need is an airplane to go up there and fly through such "materials". We can lower the landing gear at slow speeds, and at such concentration, the "chemicals" would no doubt stick to every bolt, screw, actuator, intake, flap mechnism, pitot tube.. even the nav lights.. .the list goes on.

Then we land and take samples.

Mike Rivero and Alex Jones have been touting "chemtrails" for years. They have both had multiple "money bombs" to expand their networks/studios.

Why not have a "money bomb" to buy an airplane and go fly up there to get samples?

I have sent such requests to both Mike and Alex over the years... and we are willing to fly it for free. Unfortunately, we have never heard a reply.

So... you want "Pilots For Chemtrail Truth"?

Get us an airplane, show us what you feel is a "chemtrail"... we will go fly through it... and we will find out the truth... as I requested the last time we spoke.


Rob .... What would you (not) prove by collecting samples flying behind a chemspraying
airline right in its flight path, that has not been proven a thousand times over by
endless lab testing of air and soil samples at ground level?

The ground samples invariably show a huge INCREASE in aluminum: you telling me that's
from diesel fumes along the freeways?

A lab-tested hair from a woman's head shows TOXIC levels of BARIUM: is that because
her Prius Hybrid is leaking fumes inside the car?

Orofino, ID is way off regular airline traffic routes. So why does the childrens's parade day
get blasted with chem last October, plane tracks can be SEEN turning off the chem spray
before they do the next overrun with chem pouring: The blue sky after sunrise turns
military grey from one fracked horizon to the other.

All the kids are wheezing and coughing, parent's eyes are streaming.

The next day is IDENTICAL weather, not a plane in sight, and the sky is blue all day.

You gonna tell me the cretins are faking intentional condensation trails...
just to fuel my imagination on (y)our forum, Rob? blink.gif

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Great to see everyone wasting their valuable time and effort on Chemtrails
What a successful psyop it's been
Engage brain for a minute and you'll realise there are a million other explanations for illnesses described

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All the kids are wheezing and coughing, parent's eyes are streaming.


Pesticides, car petrol additives, food additives to name a few
Pointing at ice crystals 40,000 feet up in the sky and asserting you know what REAL chemical it is is just as pointless as trying to find out who made last summer's crop circles, actually more pointless since at least on the ground you can hide in wait to catch the jokers

There I just wasted some more time
Operation successful

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The residue has been amply shown to be in snow, rainfall and in standing water at hugely increased amounts, inexplicable by other causes than aerosol spraying and fall-out.
Crucially, it is precisely chemicals that have been claimed to be part of the Geoengineering Aerosl Spppraying that appear in these massive increases from normal.
Happy Ostrich New Year! I'm sure the unseen tiger will!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is geoengineering
But this ain't it B-)
Amazing what bs can take off in the echo chamber

I see you still haven't spoken to a pilot
Come on then
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The residue has been amply shown...

At which point I stopped reading B-)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'ALUMINUM CONTAMINATION: City Officials of Mt. Shasta, CA Won't Take Responsibility For Their Duties To Protect Citizens & Worldwide Guests To Worldwide Destination':
http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/environment/pollution/news.php  ?q=1220410300

' I just submitted this limited 300 word letter to the editor of our local paper. Please read my letter below. I encourage you to write your own letters to the editor and to remember, "no matter what is spun around the "weather modification issue," none of them, be it public officials on the government payrolls or spokespersons for the corporate media, will be able to explain away with any credibility, the following facts and million dollar question."

The fact is many government agencies and officials know historically, California waters contain no or very low levels of aluminum in its waters naturally (ground or surface). So the million dollar question remains, what geological or industrial event could have occurred which could cause so many of our surface waters here in California to show "off the chart" levels of aluminum? The highest reading so far is 4,610 times the maximum contaminate level for drinking water in this state.

Watch them as they try to point the finger towards China. The problem is, the California Air Resources Board flew over those toxic clouds in the Pacific and aluminum and barium were not listed in toxic chemicals/elements found.

My partner had a good comeback response, when he was told by a Shasta Air Pollution Control Board official, that it was probably coming from China, he responded, "so what you are telling me all these planes over my head leaving these white plumes which linger all day, are coming from China?"

Rose
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> Dear Editor:
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> Monday night August 25th was our third attempt to get the Mt. Shasta city council to take the aluminum contamination seriously. Previously, we had been told that because our rainwater and snow pack samples (reading between 198 ug/L to 61,000 ug/L), were not within the city limits, it was not their concern.
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> Although, we presented new lab tests which were taken within the city limits (from garden soil, pond sludge and a field), which showed unusually high amounts of aluminum (all three over 10,000 mg/kg), the city council voted 3 to 2, not to proceed ahead and perform their own tests. Many in the audience were appalled at the callous disinterest that Porterfield, Spilliscy and Valenzuela displayed concerning this issue and of their refusal to spend just $100 dollars of the city’s funds to see if there may truly be an aluminum contamination issue.
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> The public heard the following from the three council members who voted down spending $100 dollars for testing. “Take your own tests and studies.” “Even if there is a problem (which they indicated they didn’t believe there was), its not the city’s responsibility.” Or “why would we want to open that Pandora’s Box?”
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> The truth is, federal office holders have told us that we should take our concerns to our local public officials and start there. The fact is many government agencies and officials know historically, California waters contain no or very low levels of aluminum in its waters naturally (ground or surface). So the million dollar question remains, what geological or industrial event could have occurred which could cause so many of our surface waters here in California to show "off the chart" levels of aluminum? The highest reading so far is 4,610 times the maximum contaminate level for drinking water in this state.'

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'Aerospace Worker: "I Installed Chemtrails Devices" @ Monday Demonstration 5/12/2014 - ENGLISH SUBS':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnCaE_3hImY
(Just 3-minute video clip)

The guy lost his job, and is blackballed, for whistleblowing on Chemtrails.

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"Chemtrails" — How They Affect You and What You Can Do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqATQtwOY34
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'Military Meteorologist/Biologist Speaks Out About Geoengineering ( GeoengineeringWatch.org )':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwEIbUyI1-A

'Municipality in California to investigate chemtrails – Meteorologist: “We have been misled by the military industrial complex”:
https://theawakezone.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/municipality-in-californ ia-to-investigate-chemtrails-meteorologist-we-have-been-misled-by-the- military-industrial-complex/

'The municipality Shasta in northern California unanimously decided on July 16 that the issue of aircraft release chemicals, known as chemtrails, should be investigated. The decision was taken after a rally where citizens had to ventilate their views. Shasta County Board of Supervisors also decided to study the possibility of examining whether current air quality measurements can measure the actual particles of aluminum, barium and other heavy metals in nano size.

Among the speakers were Dane Wigington, from geoengineeringwatch.org and Alan Buckman meteorologist who said “We have been misled by the military industrial complex.”......'

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Chemtrails & Winter Illness - Dr. Ilya Sandra Perlingieri
http://hisheavenlyarmies.com/documents/geoengineering-documents.html

Here is part of one of the documents:

By Dr. Ilya Sandra Perlingieri
Ides of March –3/15/11

There is no doubt that since late December, aerosol spraying of Chemtrails has been increased throughout the US. Illegal weather modification and the resulting dramatic changes in our “controlled” weather are very noticeable daily throughout New England and the East Coast. Storms on the Pacific Coast have been heavy, too. Just look up. Our gorgeous blue sky is gone. All we have is a grayish blanket of poisons overhead. With every breath we take, we are inhaling an enormous amount of toxins. The pollution is now at a DNA cellular level in all life: animal and plant. The snow we used to have is nowhere to be seen. Many people have commented that what looks like snow, “melts like Jell-o.” It does have a gel consistency, it smells of chemicals, and stings your eyes. Storms are strange and the temperature fluctuations, sometimes as much as a 40-degree spread in less than 12 hours, have been frequent in many parts of the US and Canada. The criminals in charge have decided to create more havoc.

Winter illness is not what we used to have with the usual colds and flu. From the many discussions I’ve had with physicians, NDs, and OMDs, it is possible to extrapolate that physical symptoms do not fit into what we call “traditional” illness. Most doctors have little-to-no training in any kind of environmental medicine. They have no understanding of what happens to our immune system when it is assaulted with an assortment of dangerous heavy metals, lethal chemicals, and electromagnetic frequencies on a daily basis. We are being hit with so many toxins that it no longer is 1 + 1=2. Rather, as I have written on several occasions, it actually could be the synergistic toxic equivalent of 1,600 times the dose (something Dr. Theo Colburn wrote about in 1996). The human body (and those of all other living creatures) cannot sustain these kinds of daily poisons.

Millions of people are ill. The likelihood of being mis-diagnosed (frequently in an emergency room), because a doctor (or one in training) is not familiar with environmental poisoning, is quite high. Often either heavy metals or chemical poisoning have similar symptoms to other illnesses. Many of the symptoms (heartburn, burning eyes, chronic sleep disturbances or sleeplessness, intense fatigue and headaches, bone-chilling aches, parched and very dry skin with redness, chapped cracked and bleeding lips, and sudden onset “waterfall” nosebleeds, that often require hospitalization, because they don’t stop) seem to hit us quite hard. Remember: no matter where you live, heavy pollution surrounds your every move. Environmental laws, which were in place since the 1970s, have been deliberately gutted over the past 11 years, so that the offending corporations don’t have to pay fines or be held accountable. Governmental agencies are abysmal failures. This is how a broken system “works.” So, this means more daily harm comes to all of us......'

There are a host of useful documents there, for anyone interested.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a good start B-)

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Chemtrails & Winter Illness - Dr. Ilya Sandra Perlingieri
http://hisheavenlyarmies.com/documents/geoengineering-documents.html
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By Dr. Ilya Sandra Perlingieri
Ides of March –3/15/11
There is no doubt..........

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Scouring the internet for bang up to date and CONVINCING evidence of geoengineering
Being run out via the Alex Jones channels Rolling Eyes
As we know...
Even Rosalind Peterson admits she can't prove the heavy metals and other chemicals in water are due to aerial spraying

Noote: she gives little or no specific references - all 'believe me' assertions
Her main problem in this piece is contrails ARE normal
Not a 'school brainwashing programme'
In most atmospheric conditions
It's impossible for an airliner to fly across the sky without leaving one
Even 'seeding' new cloud formations
Which is why I think she's actually peddling disinformation

OVERCAST Rosalind Peterson 2009 (Outtake)

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'PILOTS FOR TRUTH - ATMOSPHERIC RESEARCH FUNDRAISER':
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/arcc-project.html

They're almost half way to their goal of $7,500 to fly into chemtrails to get a definitive answer to what they are composed of (and Ł1 to a penny it won't be plain 'ice crystals').

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