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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There in lie the problems for all of us McMadness.

Supposing that the NWO have this massive control grid and are aware of our moves, how much do we actually know.

Is what we know allowed out there as a disinformation exercise...

And supposing that what we know is roughly the truth (there are many conflicting reports about everything), what we don't know may actually reveal itself to be the rest of the iceberg, when we only see the tip.

You have to take a stand, I find this very difficult too, I'm not sure how much of all of this is disinformation or truth.

It comes down to looking to all the information that is credible that you yourself can identify and taking a stand from there.

Then I suppose it is also a case of not immediately believing every you tube video or indy media piece that appears on this and many other sites.

I have my doubts about Alex Jones too, but he is a good source for information, even if he can be a hateful Christian most of the time.

So no answer here, I'm just as confused as you are!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McMadness wrote:
William Cooper said Alex Jones was a shill.

That's just the empty opinion of someone who saw Jones as a rival to his position as leader of the conspiracy theorists. For sure, if he had possessed real evidence, he would have exposed him.

Cooper was a man who has been fighting against the nwo for some time. He was shot and killed by deputy sheriffs in an altercation that has many troubling dark areas.

Indeed.

http://www.cam.net.uk/home/aaa315/peace/dead.htm

My thought has always been this: If Alex is telling the truth then why hasn't something happened to him? Why is he allowed to run around and agitate?

Because for a long time, Jones lacked credibility and was not getting the attention of national, respectable figures. Why risk eliminating someone who was not taken seriously, anyway? You don't need to until his claims start to be taken seriously by nationally and internationally respected people and his following becomes large. But then it's too late, as the guy is too-well known for an 'accident' to be plausible. Too many questions would be asked if he were taken out now. It's too late for 'them'.

Sure he has been arrested once or twice (trying to get into Canada to protest Bilderberg greoup) but aside from that nothing.

How can the "most dangerous man" (according to Clinton) be allowed to run here there and everywhere supposedly whipping up the cries of anarchy and chaos and overturning the government?

For the reasons above. It's too late. It would be too obvious if he had an 'accident'.

I don't know if this has been mentioned before as there are a lot of topics here and I do not have the time to go through each and every one...but sometimes I feel that the 911 quest for information is riddled with disinformation. It frightens me.

One must develop the power of discrimination. Be on guard and trust no one 100%.

Every video I watch or article I read I am constantly wondering if it is the truth. 911 proponents for justice fight amongst themselves.
sorry...I'm not having a whinge...I just feel very confused.

Yes, it's understandable, especially when high-profile people in the 9/11 truth movement accuse each other of being shills, when it's usually simply a matter of not wanting to swallow their pride and admit to mistakes of analysis. I believe it is better to avoid the infighting that is going on and stick to the basic issue that 9/11 was an inside job.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without Alex Jones a lot of people would never have heard the call of 9/11 truth.

Get off the guys back!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Without Alex Jones a lot of people would never have heard the call of 9/11 truth.

Get off the guys back!


bullsh*t, i didn't start looking into 9/11 because of alex jones,
without alex jones a lot more people might actually start to think for themselves,
instead of looking up to a bigoted bully like him.

he censors evidence, demonises and spreads lies about 9/11 tv fakery researchers and activists. saying they are feds on the payroll when, in fact he is the most well paid 'truther'. he keeps thousands of people AWAY from discovering real truth.

if you wanna listen to him banging on about how great guns are, how mexicans 'hate americans', and 'how to defeat the ALL POWERFUL 'illuminate', whoever the f**k they are, then knock yourself out.

alex jones is disinfo, bearing nothing but half truth
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rare are the occasions in which I agree with jfk. At least in that Jones is a gigantic pile of dog droppings, anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice one tmc, vive la difference!
at least we can have a discussion about what WE think, not what infowars says we can think.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sponsor revenues aside, Jones’ Jewish connections are, indeed, profound, wide-ranging and number far too many for him to dare report the facts and dynamics of the Zionist control, influence and subjugation of much of the planet…even if he wanted to.

Even so Jones told his guest Rev. Ted Pike off the air that he had heard Rev. Pike the previous morning on another program criticizing Jewish supremacists as authors of the hate bill. Alex said that what he was about to tell was "off the record."

He said his broadcasting empire has "gotten so big" with many mainline affiliates that he cannot afford to lose those stations by criticizing Jews.
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"Hollywood is owned by the Arabs, and the Israelis for some reason. But the actual financing is mainly Saudi and Jordanian and the folks from Dubai and Qatar and a few other places and the British of course."
He will not "wear Nazi armbands" by criticizing Zionism or Judaism's racial/religious goals. He will not associate with the "mentally ill" who express such concern.
Jones says too much truth about Israeli and Jewish misdeeds will "radicalize" the Tea Party movement and destroy its ability to win elections (talk show host Alex Jones describes himself as the most influential leader of the Patriot/Tea Party revolt, next to Rep. Ron Paul).
"What I want to say is this. I support Israel. It is their land"
"I watch these Nazi and anti-Israel groups. They're a bunch of scum."
They [anti-Israel groups] are "weak-minded idiots" and "Israel-bashers"

http://whatreallyhappened.wikia.com/wiki/Alex_Jones

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting more and more concerned about Infowars and Alex Jones
I'm not saying he's a deliberate agent but his right wing leanings are getting ridiculous
"I know people in the UK and everyone hates the NHS" one recent comment of his
His towards 'no government' agenda leaves us all open to be slaves of the corporations
Ever since I implicated the Israelis in 7/7 for on AJ show - for which there is much evidence - 2 years ago - zilch
[Netanyahu's fake warning, presence of Verint Systems Mafia company in the middle of London Underground security apparatus.]
The traditional left is being deliberately excluded from Alex's work which has tumbled right into the Left/Right paradigm trap


Now this: Russell Brand - OMG
Saying SOME good stuff but
Am I the only one who finds him thoroughly fake?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now this: Russell Brand - OMG
Saying SOME good stuff but
Am I the only one who finds him thoroughly fake?


Would think that most of the people who listen to his "brand" of entertainment couldnt give a monkeys about his political points of view.--so i dont really see why Alex would bother having him on his show

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Russell Brand is telling the truth does it matter where he's coming from I wonder.
Deffo in 2 minds about this guy.


Come­dian Rus­sell Brand was thrown out of an awards cer­e­mony for tak­ing note of the Nazi links of Hugo Boss, the founder of the global cloth­ing giant that car­ries his name.
http://spitfirelist.com/news/russell-brand-finds-out-whos-boss/
Boss began mak­ing uni­forms for the Nazis in the mid-twenties.
Join­ing the Nazi Party two years before Hitler’s ascen­sion, Hugo Boss pros­pered mak­ing uni­forms for the SS among other Nazi party for­ma­tions. After the com­mence­ment of hos­til­i­ties, his com­pany made uni­forms for the army.
Even­tu­ally, Boss’s firm employed forced labor­ers in its oper­a­tions, and agreed after the war to pay reparations.
A global force in the fash­ion indus­try, the firm undoubt­edly oper­ates in con­junc­tion with the Bor­mann cap­i­tal net­work, which dom­i­nates cor­po­rate Ger­many and much of the world’s finan­cial and man­u­fac­tur­ing infrastructure.
We also note that the inter­na­tional ath­letic wear brands Adi­das and Puma also have Nazi party mem­bers as founders. Adolf Dassler and his brother Rudolf were Nazi party members–the lat­ter also allegedly a mem­ber of the SS. Adi founded Adi­das, Rudolph Puma. (See text excerpts below.)
“Shame­ful Truth about Hugo Boss’s Links to the Nazis Revealed: As Rus­sell Brand Is Thrown out of a Party for Accus­ing Fash­ion Designer of Help­ing Hitler” by Guy Wal­ters; Daily Mail; 9/5/2013.
EXCERPT: There’s noth­ing like the pres­ence of some Nazis to ruin a per­fectly good party.
On Tues­day night, the come­dian Rus­sell Brand was thrown out of GQ magazine’s Men of the Year Awards after-show for mak­ing jibes about the event’s spon­sor, Hugo Boss, and the fash­ion company’s his­toric links to the Nazi party.
While on stage, Brand told the gath­ered celebri­ties and politi­cians, ‘If any­one knows a bit about his­tory and fash­ion, you know it was Hugo Boss who made uni­forms for the Nazis.’
He then added, with less than sub­tle irony, ‘But they looked f***ing fan­tas­tic, let’s face it, while they were killing peo­ple on the basis of their reli­gion and sexuality.’ . . . .
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul Joseph Watson, Alex Jones' UK counterpart has been all over Alex' US networks damning Obamacare as if it were the National Health Service.

Obamacare Fines to be Seized From Bank Accounts?
Man who attempted to sign up claims he was threatened with drivers license being revoked, federal tax lien on home
Paul Joseph Watson - Infowars.com - October 2, 2013
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Elderly To Be Euthanized Under Obamacare?
UK’s socialist healthcare system kills 130,000 patients a year
Paul Joseph Watson - Infowars.com - Thursday, June 28, 2012
If Britain’s socialist healthcare system is a benchmark for what we can expect from Obamacare, hundreds of thousands of elderly patients face being euthanized through “assisted death” techniques designed to cut costs.
The idea that “death panels” would be introduced through Obamacare as a means of rationing healthcare was discussed during an Aspen Institute conference in 2010 when Bill Gates argued that money should not be spent on treating the elderly.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a way a bit unfair to Alex Jones because I'm guessing he can't really take a pop back - but Cooper was dead within weeks of this broadcast. Pretty shocking.

Alex Jones Exposed by Milton William Cooper

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1.) Alex Jones has a Jewish wife named Kelly Rebecca Nichols, and he has three(3) children with her.

2.) Alex Jones and his Jewish wife and children all qualify for Israeli citizenship under Israel's "Law of Return".

3.) Alex Jones has at least twenty(20) Jewish sponsors and advertisers that financially support his radio show and websites.

4.) Alex Jones' flagship radio station, KLBJ AM, in Austin, Texas, is owned by Emmis Communications, a media conglomerate based in Indianapolis, Indiana. The founder, chairman, president, and CEO of Emmis Communications is the dual Israeli citizen Zionist Jew Jeffrey H. Smulyan.

5.) Alex Jones' radio show is broadcast on Sirius XM Radio. The chairman of Sirius XM Radio is the Jew Eddy W. Hartenstein. The CEO of Sirius XM Radio is the Jew Mel Karmazin. The President of Sirius XM Radio is the Jew Scott Greenstein. Of the six(6) senior executives of Sirius XM Radio, five(5) are Jews.

6.) Alex Jones has a Jewish lawyer named Elizabeth M. Schurig who is also the lawyer for Holly Lev Bronfman, the sister of Edgar Bronfman, Jr. Thus there are only two degrees of separation between Alex Jones and the Bronfman family, one of the wealthiest and most influential Jewish Zionist families in North America.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't make sense to me. He may well go easy on Israel, and apparently have close relations with Zionists.
But he attacks and exposes Bilderberg, the American Gulag, past and likely 'False Flag' ops that the NWO would hardly want exposed, particularly 9/11.
If he works for 'the 'Other Side', I wish there were more like him!

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Serious business, by the look of it: Alex Jones claims to be under serious attack (sounds genuine to me) (13 mins):

Glenn Beck's Staff Filled With FBI & CIA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2jlMyZqWBM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAROWQWGl3E&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1t wLg

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:53 pm    Post subject: Alex Jones ignores 911: Calls For Deportation Of All Muslims Reply with quote

Busted flush? Alex Jones Calls For Deportation Of Muslims
Confederate flag, American flag and the presidents carved in Mount Rushmore all allegedly to be "removed".
Completely off his head.
Ignoring NATO & Israeli intelligence involvement in 9/11, implying that was carried out by Bin Laden! Discrediting the whole 9/11 Truth movement
Consequence of shooting in the black church - 'banning' the Confederate flag - which is not happening.
The line between Alex Jones and Fox News continues to fade.
Doing his best to re-open the left-right divide after 9/11 Truth and bankster/intelligence agency analysis brought the two together.

Alex Jones goes over how utterly insane the United States has become and uses the left’s own “logic” against them.

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"what if you feel its hurtful that record numbers of Muslims are being brought in from countries known to be radicalised and to hate Westerners, to hate liberals, to hate gays, to hate women being free and who want to attack US military installations, and who want to attack soft targets. ISIS is a real multi-hundred thousand person army. Fifteen years after 9/11 giving up so many of our civil liberties. Did we get more security? No! Because the terror threats atr being used to take our freedoms.

If we blame all the white people for the shooter in Charleston, the deranged shooter, and if we blame the Confederate battle flag for that then I'm calling for all Muslim symbols to be removed. And I'm calling for all Mosques in the United States to be shut down, and I'm calling for all self-identifying Muslims of any type to be deported to their original country of origin even if they've been here 200 years. I want all Muslims deported now, and I want all Muslims to have their Mosques shut down, and their minarets removed, and their symbols removed, and anyone whering a crescent moon around their neck, I want them arrested.

I know a lot of Muslims, I went to school with a lot of Muslims

It's time for white people, and anyone else that doesn't want to be oppressed, to say I'm not going to be blamed for what somebody else does. But if you want to play by that game, we know statistically over 95% of terrorism in the world is carried out by Islamic extremists. The rest by criminal groups who want ransoms. They'll point toward Oklahoma City, phoney as a three dollar bill, totally set up."

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Controlled opposition...

It really has been Info Wars and Prison Planet. Rolling Eyes

The moral of the story: think for yourself, don't listen to any mass media, keep human and follow the facts.
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Controlled opposition...

It really has been Info Wars and Prison Planet. Rolling Eyes

The moral of the story: think for yourself, don't listen to any mass media, keep human and follow the facts.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex Jones, to my mind, only ever was a sort of doppelgänger to his Eagar Arizona predecessor William Cooper

9/11 predicted by William Cooper US Forces Veteran
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=19896

Cooper predicted in July 2001 that Bin Laden would be blamed for the 9/11 attacks

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Cooper himself, before he was killed by the FBI, believed Alex Jones to be less than honest
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

more evidence that Jones is a Zionist asset
Alex Jones Banishes Mike Rivero
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/alex-jones-banishes-mike-rivero/

Jones and his handlers decide Michael Rivero must go. Not only from the Jones radio sideshow but from the GCN network as well. AJ waves his ‘magic’ zionist flag and makes things disappear.

Announcement from Mike …

“I have just been informed by the Alex Jones show that they are canceling my monthly interviews commencing this coming Tuesday. Imagine my shock and disappointment. No, really, just imagine it!”

A little more info from Mike …

WRH: “I have not made a big deal about the reasons for the move, but in a nutshell, GCN is a reflection of Alex Jones’ views of the world, and more and more our points of view regarding Israel are diverging. I get a lot of email asking why I do not challenge Alex on his defense of Israel, or asking why every time I am on his show Alex feels obligated to have a pro-Israel representative on immediately afterwards to counter the points that I made.
I view the attack by Israel on a US flagged ship and Americans in international waters as an act of war and all who defend said attack as traitors to the USA. Alex holds a different view and I guess the breaking point was his rant in which he said that anyone who is a critic of Israel is a “weak-minded fool”. That made it a personal attack, and I decided it was time to step out of Alex’s shadow and go in a different direction.”
Looks like a good thing to me. Keeping a good distance from AJ will be for the best in the long run. Maybe Mike will quit linking anything from the Jones world. Not to retaliate but just to be on the side of good taste.

I think most of us will have some disagreements with Rivero on certain issues, that’s to be expected when folks are passionate about finding truth, but once again the bottom line is whether one has the courage to challenge Israel, their lobbyists and supporters in the media and both in and out of government Doing so can be dangerous to your health … both economically and possibly otherwise.

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Ah - Jones goes SUPERNOVA
Alex Jones Calls Pope Francis a “Slimebag” Who Will Kill a Billion People
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Since before 9/11 US shock jock Alex Jones has run a website called Infowars. But which side is AJ on?
Alex Jones: ‘Slimebag’ Pope Francis’ climate plan will kill a billion people by 2025
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Martin Van Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing."
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Alex Jones at his 'best'? I've supported him in the past (with obvious misgivings) but this is beyond the pale (like when he told someone on his programme, those who attack Israel are lunatics, or words something to that effect:

'Radical Islam is a Death Cult':

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Kinda losing the plot, Alex, or showing your true colours??

Time to go out to grass, methinks. You've woken a lot of people up, so credit where it's due. Time for a long holiday in Eilat, methinks.

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Kissinger and Trump
What will Alex Jones make of this?
Or will he just ignore it?
"Former Nixon Adviser" lol
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/280402-trump-meets-with-former-nixon -adviser-henry-kissinger

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FOUR YEARS LATER ALEX JONES STILL CONFUSED BY SANDY HOOK
NOVEMBER 20, 2016 MHB ADMINISTRATOR 62 COMMENTS
By James F. Tracy
https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/11/20/alex-jones-final-statement-on-sa ndy-hook/#more-36024

Major media and certain figures in the Sandy Hook fundraising and gun control cavalcade have recently highlighted prominent radio infowars-truthhost and filmmaker Alex Jones as a brash and indecisive observer of the Newtown school shooting event. A central reason for the attention of late is the fact that Jones has vigorously supported the Trump-Pence presidential campaign, with the president-elect responding in kind. Fortunately, Jones has issued one of his characteristically unambiguous video editorials to set the record straight.

Alex Jones Final Statement on Sandy Hook

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As some observers will recall our “tip of the spear” alt-media broadcaster issued a very similar statement in January 2013.

Why People Think Sandy Hook is a Hoax

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Jones seems to have been given the unenviable task of convincing his audience to disbelieve or at least withhold judgement on what they’re already certain they’ve detected. This is illustrated in the classic Richard Pryor “lying eyes” monologue, where the comic explains to his significant other as she stumbles upon his philandering, “What you’re seeing here baby–you didn’t really see it. This ain’t goin’ on.”

Continue reading Four Years Later Alex Jones Still Confused By Sandy Hook →
at which point James Tracy's Memory Hole blog appears to have been taken down

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FOUND the rest of this James Tracy article at The Sleuth Journal

...Jones seems to have been given the unenviable task of convincing his audience to disbelieve or at least withhold judgement on what they’re already certain they’ve detected. This is illustrated in the classic Richard Pryor “lying eyes” monologue, where the comic explains to his significant other as she stumbles upon his philandering, “What you’re seeing here baby–you didn’t really see it. This ain’t goin’ on.”
http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/four-years-later-alex-jones-still-conf used-sandy-hook/

While Jones has consistently claimed an agnostic view of Sandy Hook, we find his stance disingenuous and self-serving. Very early on in the controversy one may recall how Jones played a hostile gun rights advocate alongside CNN’s Piers Morgan on national television. This performance must be contrasted with his subsequent aversion to closer examination of the event itself.

Other alternative figures and outlets, including videographers such as Independent Media Solidarity and “Barry Soetoro,” and personalities like Wolfgang Halbig, Dr. Eowyn, Jim Fetzer and Jeff Rense, have been at the forefront of producing and disseminating some of the most compelling research on Sandy Hook.

Despite their relentless work on what remains a highly suspicious event that remains largely unexamined by truly competent and reliable authorities, Jones has chosen to sit on the sidelines. Despite his vast resources he has largely ignored such efforts and made at best marginal efforts to truly examine an incident that overall lies at the heart of a well-financed gun control movement he claims to so vehemently abhor.

Four Years Later Alex Jones Still Confused By Sandy Hook (VIDEO) | infowars-not-found | False Flags Gun Control Multimedia Sleuth Journal Special Interests US News

We must point out that Infowars writers break some important stories, and this author once even defended Jones when colleagues at Project Censored targeted him with a tawdry hit piece. Yet from collaborating with Google to suppress news on Amazon.com’s blacklisting of Fetzer’s Nobody Died at Sandy Hook to downplaying bogus copyright infringement claims targeting his very enterprise, one might conclude that Jones has heretofore functioned as a key gatekeeper Alex Jones’ “Final Statement on Sandy Hook” the entire Sandy Hook affair.

Perhaps Jones knows something the broader public doesn’t about a pending investigation under the new administration, which would of course be appropriate and welcome. For the interim, the present attempt to ingratiate himself in a movement that he’s repeatedly chosen to eschew should be recognized as exactly that.

http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/four-years-later-alex-jones-still-conf used-sandy-hook/

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If America tries to divide the land of Israel
You couldn't make this stuff up
But Alex Jones does



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The True Movement Behind Alex Jones, Jordan Maxwell & David Icke Exposed

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Verified: Alex Jones on the Payroll of a “Very Very Important Nation and a Very Very Important Leader”
Posted on February 2, 2017 by willyloman
https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2017/02/02/verified-alex-jones-on-the -payroll-of-a-very-very-important-nation-and-a-very-very-important-lea der/

by Scott Creighton

Oy vey

Well ok then. I guess now it’s not so much of a conspiracy theory that Alex Jones is, was and will always be a Zionist controlled-opposition shill working the Harbara side of the street.

https://twitter.com/infowars/status/826857812277866496

Here he and Jerome Corsi are seen pumping-up the chosen ones on his website and delivering the “breaking news” that Bibi will nominate Trump for a Peace Prize for… moving the U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv to East Jerusalem… which is actually Palestine.

At first I thought this might be a gag he and Jerome were running too see how many folks would bite on his Onion-styled “fake news”(you know, like when he tried to jump the shark on New Year’s eve 1999 when he was screeching about Russian nukes flying over the north pole?).. but he has a whole page on his website dedicated to it. Plus, there is a full 9 minute Youtube video interview with former State Department asset Corsi talking about it.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo3uXSkJAt4

So yeah, for those of you who didn’t know already… Di$info Jone$ is a Zionist disinformation asset on the payroll of Tel Aviv.

Corsi and Trump are sitting there with James saying he was getting texts directly from “someone over the Mossad” and then later saying this “breaking news” he was getting was coming directly from “Israeli intelligence” and that the nomination “may not” have “Israel’s name on it, but they made it happen”

Something tells me that’s the first time Alex or James got a scoop straight from Israeli intelligence sources.

Interestingly, Jones talks about how the U.S. and Britain have been “blessed” over the course of the history of their nations BECAUSE they have been good to the Jewish people. That, they say, comes from some biblical quip about being good to the Jews makes God like you more… or some * like that. Jones said it with a straight face.

Jones smiled big when Corsi told him that he was getting really fresh info from his “sources” in Israeli intelligence and Jones then said “folks, we are really getting things raw now!”

We can just put that one to rest now can’t we? Jones is a Mossad / Hasbara asset. Always has been.

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Alex Jones of Infowars Admits to CIA and "Army Special Forces" Family; Supports Death Squads, Dictators, Drugs, Disinformation ... and the CNP
By: Joel v.d. Reijden | Date: Jan. 17, 2016 | Updated: Feb. 21, 2016 | Alternative Media Study Center

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Contents
1. How I stumbled across a conservative troll cave in Austin
2. Alex Jones' lobby bombs and no planes of 9/11
3. The Jones-Kucinich chemtrail alliance

4. For king and Council for National Policy
5. Jones praises CNP apartheid, death squad and CIA drug trafficking supporter
6. The CIA in CNP
7. CNP guests of Alex Jones
8. CNP-tied admiral looking for "infowarriors" in CNP and Jones-tied WorldNetDaily
9. Franklin affair

10. 2011: The John Birch Society toddler
11. 2013: A first Opie & Anthony admission
12. 2014: "My dad, CIA dentist"
13. 2014: The uncle from Guatemala
14. 2015: Innocent uncle becomes ''Oliver North of the army''
15. Guatemala: decades of CIA, ASC and CNP-backed death squads against the poor

16. Herr Jones, Machiavellian corporate fascist
17. CIA, anti-Eastern Eastern Establishment propaganda, and the Jones family
18. Concluding summary

19. 2016: Jones tired of CIA talk, but does work with "branches of different agencies"

20. Appendix A: Alex Jones in a nutshell
21. Appendix B: Alex Jones - Piers Morgan debate on CNN
22. Notes

"If it is necessary to turn the country into a cemetery in order to pacify it, I will not hesitate to do so."

Colonel Carlos Arana Osorio, president of Guatemala 1970-1974, backed by the American Security Council and Council for National Policy network in the U.S. Did the Guatemalan "government contacts" of Alex Jones' uncle William Hamman extend to Arana or his allies? [1]


"The guerrilla is the fish. The people are the sea. If you cannot catch the fish, you have to drain the sea."

General Efrain Rios Montt, president of Guatemala 1982-1983, backed by the American Security Council and Council for National Policy network in the U.S. Did the Guatemalan "government contacts" of Alex Jones' uncle William Hamman extend to Montt or his allies? [2]


"There's a left-wing CFR-funded conspiracy theory that says some group called the CNP runs everything [bored expression]. It's a total diversion... Absolutely [Howard Phillips and Richard Viguerie are excellent CNP mentors]. And Howard Phillips has been fighting the New World Order forever."

August 31, 2010, Alex Jones in conversation with fellow-no-planer Joel Skousen. Viguerie and Phillips were among the staunchest American Security Council supporters of dictators, death squad leaders and CIA drug-traffickers around the world. (mp3)


"Hmm, big passenger liner, even if it hit, its engines would have hit 20 yards out, 15 yards out. You would have seen those smash up or make holes, but it didn't. It was just this 16 foot hole and later, you know, they came in and dumped sand everywhere to make it look like it was worse and you've got some spools there and the grass is doing just fine. ... Classic black op to shoot a missile into there and say it was an aircraft and have it fly low and the doomsday aircraft above. ... Any harassment you went through? ... What an incredible radio show today, wooh! David Icke, coming up!"

September 18, 2008, Alex Jones spreading the usual no-plane disinformation during his interview with Pentagon employee and 9/11 survivor April Gallop. (mp3)


"So much is happening. We even had Lou Dobbs on today. He sent me an email and said: "I appreciate what you are doing." ... To see Glenn Beck now come out all the way about poisoning the water, massive extermination, death camps [is] so vindicating. ... Well, George Noory, I wanna get you on my official radio show from 11 to 2 in the next few weeks about all this UFO stuff. ... They've got this signal from another planet that looks like it's a communication ... There's no doubt that there's stuff going on. There's no doubt that Ezekiel and other books of the bible, like Genesis, talk about literal giant craft with fire coming out and guys with blue helmets on and giving people stuff, and genetic engineering, and Noah, and all the rest of it, but then to have Project Blue Beam, and I want you to finish up with this... I can't think of anybody whose voice and intellect and just overall radio presence is more powerful than Art Bell's, but overall you took Coast to Coast 6-7 years ago into a completely new direction, bringing in the hardcore [patriot] issues and I remember being on your show 6 years ago [initiating this]."

October 16, 2010, Alex Jones when George Noory calls in during his "Moneybomb Marathon". Apparently Jones believes aliens started the United Nations conspiracy. Some serious begging, bragging and ass-kissing is going on with Jones here, who appears to be trying to establish himself as the perfect Coast to Coast AM "asset". Seems he'll push whatever to get fame and fortune. Noory, in the mean time, is talking back to Jones about the "Illuminati", "New World Order", "cashless society", "false flags" and microchipping everybody. (mp3)


"I wanna be clear: Infowars is the first wave in this [NWO exposing]. ... Somebody like Senator Barry Goldwater in the fifties, U.S. senator with classified briefings, with the Pentagon coming out and warning him there's a multinational banking cartel owned by the Rothschilds, Rockefellers and others that wants to bring in a planetary, technocratic dictatorship. ... He said there is a plan to take over all religions, all banking, all family, all education, all industry. ... Just type in 'Barry Goldwater quotes on world government', 'Barry Goldwater quotes on Trilateral Commission'. And Americans listened to Barry Goldwater, they organized. People like [the CNP's] Phyllis Schlafly and others, they battled. They fought hard. [The CNP's] Pat Buchanan. Even Richard Nixon to a certain extent. ... Grandma was listening to Barry Goldwater. Ron Paul was listening to Barry Goldwater. I was really thinking about it the other day: Who is the most prominent person at the beginning of the real resistance to the globalists who really did the most damage to them in a chain reaction? ... Barry Goldwater, the first wave. Ron Paul, the second wave. Matt Drudge, at the end of the second wave. Alex Jones, at the beginning of the third wave."

February 12, 2016, Alex Jones on his own show, once again confirming what ISGP has been saying all along. Goldwater was a favorite of the murderous American Security Council and CNP. He and his good friend General Curtis LeMay, a person who tried to initiate WWIII with the Russians in the 50s and 60s, also spread Roswell UFO crash disinformation. What a role model to have for people questioning government, such as Alex Jones.


PART I

How I stumbled across a conservative troll cave in Austin

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Alex Jones and cousin and Infowars co-founder Buckley Hamman: both involved in the production of 9/11: The Road to Tyranny. If you're gonna watch a film of Alex Jones, I recommend Terrorstorm.

For me personally it was in the 2001-2003 period that I first developed a few questions about the way our government worked, largely related to the live reports of huge explosions at the time of the World Trade Center collapses and the May 2002 assassination of would-be prime minister Pim Fortuyn (the Dutch Donald Trump). Then, in 2003, I was experimenting with a ketogenic diet, got amazing results, and began to wonder where all this mainstream science against saturated fat and cholesterol was based upon. When you see government-issued food recommendations with cake and meat both listed under "saturated fat" you know that the authorities aren't doing their homework.

When I first took matters into my own hands with regard to conspiracy in early 2004 and began to use the internet to look up information, it quickly turned out that others were asking similar questions, especially with regard to 9/11. Alex Jones' websites Infowars and Prisonplanet were impossible to miss, of course, and I soon found myself watching Jones' 2004 film 9/11: The Road to Tyranny, Googling just about every article he showed on screen and every claim he made. The rest is history: the process of creating ISGP was already underway.

9/11: The Road to Tyranny made a considerable impression on me for a number of reasons. Just learning about the concept and practical examples of false flag operations to get from the masses the reaction political leaders are looking for, or get them to exchange liberty for security, was a real eye-opener. I certainly was never taught about this in school or any other place, despite the fact that it is something that should be part of every citizen's first aid package of political knowledge. Sure, it's impossible to accuse a western government of these type of practices without some kind of opposing establishment voicing this opinion through the media and make it acceptable, but knowing about the false flag and liberty-for-security concepts is a lot better than nothing.

The amount of unanswered questions Jones brings up in his documentary also very much impressed me. Nobody ever informed me about Bush preventing the FBI from investigating his Saudi friends, including the questionable Bin Laden family; about long-existing plans to go into Iraq, that on the eve of 9/11 Bush was ready to sign papers to involve the U.S. in Afghanistan, or that the steel of the World Trade Center towers was illegally shipped off before the collapse could be analyzed. These are just four facts that we need more information about. And we can easily pose dozens of additional questions to both the 9/11 Commission and NIST. The mainstream media isn't doing it, and that's a mind-bender all by itself for anyone who has grown up thinking we live in a democracy with a free press.
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Infowars website, May 6, 1999, the first Webarchive capture. The message is clear: pro-NRA and anti-everything else.

Another subject from one of Alex Jones' early films that greatly intrigued me was government provocateurs mingling with protest groups only to purposely start violent riots. The result is an equally violent police break up of the protests while the media has a field day discrediting the protestors nation-wide, maybe even initiating debates whether or not the government should instate limits to the right to protest (such as the dreaded protest/free speech zones). Without a doubt, this is one of the most devious weapons in any modern democratic government's arsenal and there's definitely evidence, apart from what Jones has presented, that these type of tactics have been employed on occasion. Then again, it's entirely possible to argue that Alex Jones himself is an example of a different type of provocateur, one that doesn't use his fists, but discredits protestors and anyone open to conspiracy with his words and actions.

That brings us to some of the less praiseworthy aspects of 9/11: The Road to Tyranny. The reason I've never recommended or shown the film to anyone is mainly because of a number of viewpoints expressed by Alex Jones in the film. Well, "a number" hardly cuts it. Here are Jones' viewpoints that I had some issue with:

Vague talk about a "New World Order" consisting of "megalomaniacal Satanists" being behind all the modern false flags discussed;
the view that the Oklahoma bomb couldn't have done the damage that it did;

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The damage Timothy McVeigh's truck did to the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma with 5,000 pounds of TNT-equivalent explosive. Nine out of 13 barrels consisted of ANNM, four were filled with the weaker ANFO and an additional 350 pounds of Tovex was used in detonators. The truck was parked right against the building with the barrels arranged into a "makeshift" shaped charge. Based on this info, it seems obvious that columns at ground level would have been weakened and the first few floors severely destabilized by the blast, causing the floors above them to collapse in that section of the building. There's also symmetrical damage with the other side of the road. In other words, don't listen to Alex Jones-backed conspiracy gurus as Ted Gunderson (who only talked about an "ANFO bomb", for starters) and Gen. Benton K. Partin.
Personally, I've seen what 3.7 lb of ANNM fully in the ground can do in terms of damage and am starting to sweat just thinking about what an above-ground blast 1,500 times more powerful would do. Well, look above. But what might be easier to imagine, because there are tons of YouTube clips about it, is two large 2,000 lb JDAMs narrowly missing a building (they contain RDX, which is more powerful than TNT). Damage explained.
Yes, I'm as confused as everyone else by live news reports of multiple devices and I also wouldn't be surprised if the authorities were manipulating a fringe "patriot" subject into committing a crime like this. Nazi "patriots", for example, have been used throughout the Cold War in Europe's "Strategy of Tension". But the damage is totally consistent with one major truck bomb, so don't fall into that trap. Also, Oklahoma stands in stark contrast to 9/11, especially with a somewhat similar-looking Building 7.

a rather devout Christian perspective;
the equating of liberalism and socialism, or even the idea of having any kind of government, with communism;
the dismissal of health care programs;
the equating of eugenics and genocide with the introduction of contraception, the legalization of abortion and (failed) projects to help stabilize population growth in the Third World in the same manner that it has almost stabilized in the First World;
the extreme antipathy towards the United Nations, globalization, or basically any regional treaty;
the dismissal of global warming and even the ozone hole as a United Nations plot to take over the world's resources; [3]
claims that vaccines are poisonous (thimerosal, squalene, cancer viruses) [4] and really are part of a secret United Nations plot to kill 80% of the world population;
the related claim that "the United Nations is preparing to release massive plagues onto the earth, because the elite want the life-extension technologies for themselves."
the ignoring of problems as overpopulation;
the ignoring of the necessity of realpolitik agendas, if only as a deterrent to countries as Russia, China, North Korea, or possibly in the future, African countries;
the promotion of unrestrained gun rights as the primary solution to the globalist take-over. [5]

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Booyah!! Jones selling his hormone and brain pills, in part to counter the "globalists" with their "poisonous" vaccinations and chemtrails. The totally shameless do-it-yourself approach is awesome though.

I was a very confused young man after watching some of Alex Jones' documentaries. It's not even that a naive social democrat from western Europe can learn a few lessons from strict constitutionalists as Alex Jones, but what the heck was this all about? The opinions are so extreme. While undoubtedly elites have entertained the idea of culling the Third World masses if the population situation gets too dire - at least one Rockefeller-funded scientist has proposed it [6] - Jones is blowing isolated facts completely out of proportion. He could have easily made many of the same arguments, if he voiced his concerns in a more measured manner. Then again, with some of his other opinions, like with vaccines or the ozone hole, he's purposely misrepresenting the facts. Or, more accurately maybe, leaving them out altogether. Considering it's obvious from other segments of his documentary that Jones is very savvy, why would he be doing this? Well, I'd never heard of the John Birch Society at that point, nor the Council for National Policy and a number of related ultraright Christian conservative groups, many of them tightly linked to national security. But now I have. And now I have a few things to write about.

Alex Jones' lobby bombs and no planes of 9/11

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August 7, 2009: Alex Jones' ''Joker'' special broadcast.

In ISGP's 2014 Cult of National Security Trolls article already clear evidence was produced that Alex Jones is an asset of the Christian conservative ultraright who copied the John Birch Society bible on the "commie" Eastern Establishment, including Bilderberg, the Trilateral Commission and the CFR. Because the world changed with the introduction of broadband internet, Jones added a number of chapters to the bible, including CIA drugs, Gladio terrorism, JFK and 9/11, subjects the John Birch Society never felt the need to touch. No one in today's conspiracy community can be credible without acknowledging basic serious questions surrounding these subjects.

The fact is, anybody with a decent amount of in-depth knowledge of political "intrigue" can see that Jones, apart from discrediting these subjects by behaving like a madman half the time, is always twisting the truth, and coincidentally always in the same manner as all other conspiracy gurus. His 9/11-related guests, for example, are promoting an endless stream of no-plane, basement bombs (falling elevators) and stand-down theories, all of which are obvious hoaxes. Searching the Infowars website anno 2016 for much more legitimate information on NIST's WTC 7 omissions as stiffener plates, support beams, shear studs, and proper seat widths, and there seems to be little to nothing there. It's the same story with all other conspiracies: emphasis is placed on disinformation and trivial issues.

In preparation for this article, I actually more specifically looked for some of Jones' 9/11 theories by listening to clips of his radio show and also by rewatching a number of his documentaries. The situation turns out to be worse than suspected. First, and as the reader may have spotted in one of the opening quotes to this article, Jones is actually a vocal proponent of the no-757-at-Pentagon theory. In order to reach that conclusion one has to very strongly misinterpret/manipulate the available evidence and witness testimony.
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January 25, 2010, Alex Jones comes slightly late to a peaceful, orderly and rational 2nd Amendment Rally in Austin, rudely starts to bullhorn over a scheduled speaker, screaming to the police things as "We will never be slaves to the New World Order!" A very nice but distressed lady tries to explain to him how hard she worked on a schedule for speakers and that they had wanted to schedule him in. Jones keeps insulting her: "I don't wanna be part of your schedule. ... You don't control freedom!", "Why are you violating my 1st Amendment?", "Look, you got a hard on for me." After a bit of initial support, more than a few people start accusing him of being COINTELPRO. He doesn't deny, sticking to rude answers and evading questions. [7]

On top of that, while for the first time really sitting down and watching the Jones'-produced 2007 film Loose Change: Final Cut and his 2008 documentary The 9/11 Chronicles, I was stunned at his active effort in distorting the truth about 9/11 along the lines that I just laid out. While some of the basic information is definitely accurate, all kinds of tricks are employed to steer people in the wrong direction. In addition, in The 9/11 Chronicles, Jones was promoting the freshly-established groups We Are Change and Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. It's incredible to watch Jones and an almost teenage We Are Change founder Luke Rudkowski literally directing large 9/11 Truth crowds through New York City, as they've done in other years as well. This same duo was largely orchestrating the prominent 2007 "hit and runs" on presidential candidates and elites, often with hopelessly unproductive slurs as "Bilderberg scum" and "you're not going to get your New World Order!"

Watching these two films was quite a revelation. Now I know why I had such a bad feeling about firefighter John Schroeder that I never included him in ISGP's main article on the WTC collapses. He is one of two WTC witnesses used in both Alex Jones films to promote manipulative lobby/basement bomb theories. The other is the more well-known Willy Rodriguez, the only Twin Tower witness interviewed right on 9/11 to blatantly change his testimony in later years to make the case of basement bomb theories.

Although, the only one? While writing this article, I also took an additional look at the statements of firefighter Louie Cacchioli. Like Schroeder's, I always had questions about his testimony, largely produced in 2005 by no-planer and anti-Semite Greg Szymanski. If a person like Szymanski gets involved, something simply has to be wrong. But Cacchioli was already briefly interviewed on September 12, 2001 by People magazine, so I always kind of let it slide. Now, while rewatching Jones' three-hour 9/11: The Road to Tyranny it turned out he only devoted 48 seconds to questions surrounding the World Trade Center collapses. There's nothing about the extreme heat; just steel being shipped off prematurely and one on-screen example of a firefighter talking about explosives. Guess who that firefighter was? Louie Cacchioli. Coincidence? I doubt it.

I've read and organized virtually all available testimony of 9/11 firefighters of that day, know where all the fire chiefs and many of the firefighters were at which point and what they described seeing, so it's going to be very hard to fool me in this regard. Most individual accounts perfectly back up each other, but not the one of Cacchioli or Schroeder. With Cacchioli, I noticed the following issues:

Already on September 12, he is talking about having escaped "the second tower" while he means the first tower: the North Tower. If he was assigned to the South Tower, he would be dead. Of course, this is a totally forgivable mistake.
On September 12, he said that on his last trip up with the elevator (the only one that worked) "a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building." That's fine, but the "bomb" was actually the South Tower coming down. It knocked the North Tower's lights out for 30 seconds, as Cacchioli described, and stalled his elevator. A lot of firefighters in the North Tower were thinking a bomb had gone off at this point or were afraid that their own tower was coming down. So right on September 12, Cacchioli's account is still somewhat compatible with the facts.
The 2005 Greg Szymanski's interview with Cacchioli is unbelievably flawed. Cacchioli saw smoke at the 24th floor - for which there exists an explanation (a wall of the elevator had been pushed out here due to debris and burning kerosene coming down, with a smell of kerosine everywhere). He still believed a "bomb" trapped him in the elevator, instead of the cause being the collapse of the South Tower. And he is the only one describing additional explosions and "floors pan caking on top of one another" while still 10-20 floors up in the North Tower. Reaching the end of the interview, I was amazed to read that Cacchioli was well out of the building when the North Tower came down. Like I said, his narrative doesn't fit any other account - and I've analyzed and organized dozens upon dozens.

I've made more detailed comments on Cacchioli's account in ISGP's Twin Tower collapse article. There I also discuss the one of fellow-firefighter John Schroeder. But let's summarize Schroeder's account here also, because it is important in understanding that Jones had no business putting this person in any of his films, let alone as literally the only "inside" witness apart from Rodriguez. Schroeder's false memory syndrome revolves around the following issues:

He claims one of the lobby elevators "exploded" 5 minutes after arriving in the lobby. Not one single firefighter has described this, although plenty wondered if a bomb had exploded in one corner of the lobby. This turned out to be one of the express elevators (several came down actually) that crashed down along with burning kerosene. Just the fact that 9/11 "filmmaker" Gedeon Naudet walked into the North Tower with his camera either at the same time or slightly before Schroeder, proves Schroeder wrong on this claim.
Schroeder also claims that the "Mayday" to evacuate the North Tower was in response to a second plane. This couldn't be more false. This was due to the collapse of the South Tower. The first firefighters were just beginning to ascend the stairs of the North Tower at 9:03 a.m. when the second plane hit.
Schroeder conveniently claims to have been saved by one of the magic keys of scam artist Willy Rodriguez, whom I've not encountered in any other mainstream firefighter's account. Schroeder hasn't explained who the other team members were who were saved by Rodriguez. And is it really a coincidence that Rodriguez is an old protege of professional debunker James Randi, including all things 9/11?
Also, is it really a coincidence that Schroeder is a disgruntled FDNY employee who was fired in November 2004 for failing a cocaine test? Looks to me he was still using at the time of the interview.

Willy Rodriguez and John Schroeder were "reunited" by Manny Badillo, a former neocon air force employee-turned-leading We Are Change activist who plays a prominent role in Alex Jones' The 9/11 Chronicles. In 2011, Badillo, in tandem with Rodriguez, accused 9/11 "truther" Phil Jayhan - a promoter of no-plane and smoke-machines-at-Pentagon claims - of pedophilia. Badillo claimed to have police records on Jayhan. Next thing you know, Badillo is arrested and eventually imprisoned for similar charges. The establishment-backed James Randi also has these charges of pedophilia against him, by the way.

That reminds me, in 2013, The 9/11 Chronicles-featured no-planer Richard Gage enthusiastically brought war veteran John P. Dinatale - with "five engineering degrees!" - on stage at a Rethink911 rally at Madison Square Garden. If Gage would have Googled Dinatale, he would have found out this person is a registered child molester. It appears Gage hasn't found out about this now 2.5 years later, because Dinatale is still listed among the Architect & Engineers for 9/11 Truth petition signers. Apart from his name, unusual mustache and facial features, Dinatale's A&E-listed address also corresponds with the one on the sex offender's flyer. I guess we have to assume it's him.

Richard Gage has repeatedly pushed very obvious disinformation during lectures or while being interviewed by the BBC in 2008, so it's not hard to see why Alex Jones has put him in his films. A summary of all disinformation in the Alex Jones-produced Loose Change: Final Edition and The 9/11 Chronicles can be found in a separate article of ISGP dealing with 9/11's no-planers.

The basic case I'm making here is that the usual pattern can be spotted here. Whenever one investigates the conspiracy community, almost instantly very peculiar characters with equally peculiar backgrounds, opinions, mannerisms, agendas and friends begin to pop up. Whether one investigates the network of Lee Harvey Oswald, the alternative investigators into JFK's death, or even today's "researchers" into the Dutch Demmink affair, twilight zone experiences with all kinds of bizarre individuals are going to ensue.
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No-planers Abby Martin and Alex Jones at Bilderberg 2008 with a We Are Change LA representative. Martin's Project Censored is financed by the Tides Foundation and Stern Fund, which basically is the same as being financed by Bilderberg directly.

As already demonstrated to an extent, we see the same trend in Jones' film The 9/11 Chronicles. One example not mentioned is no-planer Abby Martin, who was part of the small team of truth activists. Soon after, she became a host on Russia TV - which invites an endless stream of these scammy individuals on air - and a director of Project Censored, the latter co-financed by the Rockefeller/Soros/Ford Foundation-allied Tides Foundation, Stern Fund and a few other more minor foundations. Project Censored is ran by Dr. Peter Martin Phillips, who, much like Alex Jones, became famous in conspiracy circles for his expose of the Bohemian Grove.

If we look at the Jones' film Terrorstorm, released in 2006, followed by a second edition in 2007, we see the same thing. Persons featured include Paul Joseph Watson and his brother Steve Watson; alleged MI5 whistleblowers David Shayler and Annie Machon; CIA veteran Ray McGovern; Michael Meacher, no less than Tony Blair's environmental minister in the 1997-2003 period; and Charlie Sheen. In addition, Jones is plugging people like Steven Jones, Robert Steele, Paul Craig Roberts and even Morgan Reynolds. Luke Rudkowski also appears for a split-second in some of the activism footage.

All these individuals have their peculiarities. For starters, Shayler, Machon, Sheen, Steele and Reynolds are confirmed no-planers, which readers can check by clicking on their names. We can put the Watson brothers in the same category, considering they are Jones' employees. And Meacher, despite being very well-spoken, very moderate with his accusations and consistently bringing up key points as PNAC, the ridiculously slow responses on 9/11 and the Pakistani ISI connection, has also demonstrated some anomalous behavior. For example, in mid-2006 he tried to show the 2nd edition of Loose Change to members of the British parliament. His support for the film was totally out of character for him. The 2nd edition of Loose Change very prominently tried to make the case that Flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon and that Flight 93 never crashed in Pennsylvania - the passengers of the latter plane disappeared by the U.S. government through a NASA hanger. If it wasn't for a law suit from the Naudet brothers to remove the Flight 11 impact material from their film, the 2nd edition may well still have included the ridiculous pod theories. This appears to have been part of an effort, first introduced by Dave von Kleist (whose former wife Joyce Riley has been spreading disinformation on Gulf War Syndrome for decades), to promote the view that none of the planes hit their targets, including Flight 11 and 175 at the World Trade Center. The 2nd edition of Loose Change also didn't include anything about the ISI connection, so it's hard to say what Meacher saw in it. He would have been way better off giving his own presentation to parliament. We can go on, but seeing that Meacher is the typical environmental "terrorist" and new leftist I'm pretty much assuming there was some Rockefeller "liberal CIA" in his genes.
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Jones' 2006-2007 Terrorstorm film. I only watched it after nearly finishing this article. It's by far his best movie with a lot of good examples of false flag terrorism and very little NWO rants. Apart from the no-plane theory section and the endless set of curious commentators (which viewers won't know if they don't check their backgrounds), I actually recommend it, certainly when keeping in mind the lack of other quick oversights available on the false flag subject. It's an excellent "mind-expander" for newcomers, teaching people that governments are very manipulative, do illegal things, don't care about explaining themselves to the public, and can get away with almost anything if there's not some establishment holding them accountable.
One additional thing to keep in mind with this film: the polls showing 90% of voters agreeing that 9/11 was an inside job are very disingenuous. Infowars and other conspiracy sites always link to them, resulting in a disproportionate amount of "believers". They shouldn't do that - but they do.

Also, with some of the individuals just mentioned, the no-plane-at-Pentagon theory is the mildest they have to offer. At the time Jones' put out the first version of Terrorstorm, The New Statesman cited David Shayler, in the presence of an agreeing Annie Machon, as saying: "You won't see any plane debris on the Pentagon lawn. ... The only explanation is that they were missiles surrounded by holograms made to look like planes." Shayler wasn't just talking about the Pentagon: "Watch the footage frame by frame and you will see a cigar-shaped missile hitting the World Trade Center." Reynolds has been pushing the exact same theory and in addition teamed up with Dr. Judy Wood - another individual promoted everywhere - claiming that "scalar" particle beam technology destroyed the World Trade Center. She and Reynolds have tried to engage leading nanothermite promoters (all no-planers except Steven Jones) in a "rational" and "productive" debate on what went on in New York on the morning of 9/11.

Alex Jones might not promote these extreme theories apart from the no-plane-at-Pentagon, but by putting these persons in his movie he did help to establish them as icons of the 9/11 Truth movement, icons the mainstream media has no problem shooting down if the time is right. You can never tell beforehand what these seemingly rational individuals will say or do in the future. Charlie Sheen comes across as very rational in Jones' movie, but we all know what happened to him several years later. He had the biggest public breakdown of any Hollywood celebrity ever. I'm not sure if his ungodly amounts of money, cocaine abuse and blackmail over homosexual escapades fully accounted for that. After all, particularly his father, Martin Sheen, has been a long-time Rockefeller/Ford/Soros "new left" political activist. Martin Sheen was briefly interviewed in Jones' The 9/11 Chronicles and agreed with his son that there were questions about 9/11. He did rather safely stick to WTC 7 though.

Although not too many people know him outside of Great Britain, David Shayler's meltdown in 2009 was even worse than Sheen's. Around the time Machon went to live with someone else in Germany, Shayler renamed "herself" Dolores Kane, "a transvestite complete with false breasts, mini-skirt and ginger wig." This was immediately after he called himself "The Messiah [and declared] that the 'world will end in 2012'." You can't make this stuff up. Seeing how Jones' media rants have deteriorated since the one to CNN in which he is defending Sheen, it makes one wonder what we're going to see with him in the future.

Combine the motley crew of youthful 9/11 activists Alex Jones was working with in the 2005-2008 period alone, his continuous promotion of sophisticated and well-thought out disinformation, and it's not particularly reasonable to assume that he is an independent activist without ties to the security establishment. We might not be able to prove it, but Jones being independent makes very little sense.

The Jones-Kucinich chemtrail alliance

While writing this article I notice that Alex Jones is actually a major promotor of the chemtrail theory. Back in 2009, right after the The 9/11 Chronicles, he even contemplated making a film about the subject. Jones:

"You've been brain damaged, myself included, but we're fighting through it. You can still focus and get some neurons firing there. You know? We're trying. ...

"Worldwide terra-forming with deadly barium salts and aluminum dioxide, as now people 22-years-old are getting Alzheimer everywhere. Just, breathing, just ugh! Mass death, brain plaques, hitting us, hitting us hard! The globalists have special detoxes so they can remove some of it, but they're even insane. It's hurting them. I mean this mega-attack, total, and - in AP!! And I've got FBI calling the office, encircling the office, and provocateurs out the wazoo, and people attacking everywhere! And I'm the weirdo." [8]

Chemtrails really is one of the most bizarre theories one can pursue, because they have an ordinary explanation and would be too massive a conspiracy to cover up. Chemtrails are completely based on presenting speculative, futuristic studies on weather warfare and geo-engineering (to counter global warming) as being papers describing present-day, implemented technology. The fact is, chemtrails are contrails. They're engine exhaust - undoubtedly with a little pollution - that condensates when it hits the freezing air in the upper atmosphere. The higher the humidity, the longer the contrail (quite similar to your own breath in cold humid air). In "ideal" circumstances the contrails can even become self-sustainable and turn into permanent cirrus-like clouds. Ironically, the days after 9/11, with all planes in the United States grounded, proved to be ideal to study contrails. In one case, as described in a PBS article, "six military aircraft flying between Virginia and Pennsylvania on September 12, 2001 [produced] contrails that grew to cover 7,700 square miles." [9] Maybe I should do my own observations a little more often just to be one hundred percent certain, but I can only remember once getting annoyed when contrails began to obscure the sun. And coincidentally that happened with every flight on that day. That's some conspiracy if all these international planes that day were secretly fitted with chemtrail sprayers. It just makes no sense to look for a conspiracy behind this - unless you're trying to muddy the waters.
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Top: Dennis Kucinich, a.k.a. the Chemtrail Congressman, as featured in Alex Jones' The 9/11 Chronicles, promising sick rescue workers of the World Trade Center site, "We're gonna start asking questions [to] the New York City Health Department about their evaluations - their conclusions. We're gonna start getting documents! I want you to know this!" 10 years later? Nothing. He probably secretly blamed the symptoms on chemtrails anyway. I've seen Kucinich in at least one other Alex Jones documentary. Bottom: Kucinich on the Alex Jones Show.

In another coincidence (they keep stacking up), congressman Dennis Kucinich has played an important role in popularizing the idea of chemtrails. In October 2001 Kucinich tried to introduce the "Space Preservation Act of 2001" (HR 2977) in congress that would "ban" chemtrails, along with weapons based on particle beam, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, ELF and ULF energy radiation, mind-control and psychotronic technology. The bill was written by Carol Rosin and Alfred Webre [10], some of the most extreme Rockefeller/Tides Foundation-backed Disclosure Project and Coast to Coast AM disinformers imaginable. Kucinich, backed by the exact same interests [11], is the same congressman who has appeared in several Alex Jones films, including The 9/11 Chronicles, as the go-to public representative who is going to confront Washington on behalf of the 9/11 Truth movement and turn things around. Sure he is. He and the tooth fairy.

As primarily discussed in the Cult of National Security Trolls article, alternative news outlets as the Alex Jones Show largely amount to a cult. All kinds of peculiar people with even more peculiar ideas are allowed on the air. They support each other, fight amongst each other, but outsiders are unable to join the conversation. My 2007 Beyond the Dutroux Affair article, which took 1.5 years to finish, is a good example of this. Despite having been published earlier and despite unique documentation that seriously implicated a former Bilderberg chairman, other leading "internationalists", and CIA-backed fascist aristocrats in child abuse networks, it was ignored in EVERY conspiracy corner on the internet. Worried about my own safety, especially in terms of getting sued before the information could spread, I gave Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson a $500 "bribe" to post my article as a news item on the front page of Prisonplanet, back then the most popular of Jones' sites, for two days. All of a sudden Rense and other conspiracy sites did pick up the article, although they unfortunately did have a tendency to include the word "Illuminati" in their own headings. After that article, the gates were closed forever. I did offer to pay $200 for the publication of my very unique 2008 Pilgrims Society article, which theoretically would be of incredible interest to anything from Alex Jones and Jeff Rense to the John Birch Society, but nobody would touch it. Only Alex Jones would, as a commercial for a day, which obviously didn't produce any hits. Considering Infowars and Prisonplanet were linking to third-rate blogs every other day, certainly in those days, it was an interesting choice to ignore ISGP.

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PART II
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For those still in doubt whether or not Alex Jones is an independent player, remember that he doesn't allow any discussion on conservative NGOs and think tanks. He only attacks the liberal "commie" Eastern Establishment. This author first experienced this in November 2006, when the first ISGP article in quite some time was refused publication by Alex Jones' Infowars. This was quite a shock at the time, because it was the best-documented and most unique article I had written until that point.
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Alex Jones as he mockingly says: "Then the caller calls in and says: "The CNP!" And: "Are you part of it?""

Looking back, the censorship is easy to understand. Instead of touching on the liberal Eastern Establishment, I wrote about Le Cercle, part of the ultraconservative Pentagon (CIA swings both ways) network that is protected by Alex Jones. The American Security Council, the World Anti-Communist League, the Council for National Policy, the Western Goals Foundation and Le Cercle are completely synonymous with the John Birch Society, despite the fact that the latter operates much more in the foreground, complete with a magazine, The New American, that often features relatively controversial theories purely aimed at politicizing the conservative masses. [12] The other groups have (or had) more ranking members and have always tried to remain as low profile as possible. Considering Jones is a huge supporter of the John Birch Society who has allowed more than a few members on his show, including John Birch Society president John McManus [13], it's not particularly surprising that he is covering for the other groups just mentioned. He himself perfectly demonstrated this during an August 31, 2010 interview with Joel Skousen when near the end a caller unexpectedly questions Skousen's claims that the Council for National Policy (CNP) is an innocent group where "no influential government policy is being made... They are rather dull [and] not secretive." Below I transcribed most of the subsequent narrative between Jones and Skousen, because it is very important what they say here:

JONES: Alright, alright, alright, we've gotta go to a break, but we'll come back. There's a left-wing CFR-funded conspiracy theory that says some group called the CNP runs everything [bored expression]. It's a total diversion, but we'll talk about it from the other side. ...

I get these emails the last few years, you know, "You're part of the CNP." "You are part of a secret right-wing group more powerful than the CFR." So I went and researched it and it looked like the Hunt brothers were involved and stuff. And it looked like a right-wing attempt to get the government back from the globalists and then it got taken over by the globalists. Uh, but then I noticed it was big foundation money and like, Mother Jones and Rolling Stone were promoting it [and it became clear that] the government is infiltrating "conspiracy culture" and posing to then attack real people.

And, you know, I hear Joel laughing during the break when I asked him about this, but here's Joel for two hours exposing the Republican takeover of the patriot movement and then the caller calls in and says: ... "The CNP!" And: "Are you part of it?" [Hugely condescending expression while making quotation marks with his fingers.] Joel, tell us about this.

SKOUSEN: Well, I was part of the original CNP starting. I was there as chairman of the Conservative National Committee, so I have first-hand information about how it began there. I was working as executive editor of the Conservative Digest under Richard Viguerie, working with Howard Phillips, who is a real patriot. And frankly, we were making really headway in stopping the compromises the Reagan administration was involved in under the influence of vice president George Bush.

So the CNP was started, in fact, just like [today's] Tea Party movement [but] big name Republicans moved in, like Bob Dole and New Gingrich and others, and tried to water down our movement which was to have a no compromise strategy in there. So the CNP became, frankly, kind of like a mimic of what the left was doing, but they had no conspiratorial tendencies except, and that's why they kept these things secret, because they wanted to have some heavy hitters in there and they charged a way amount of money, $1,000 or $2,000 a year, to be a member of the CNP. They did have some secrecy, but it wasn't anything, you know, conspiratorial in nature. Their basic movement was to co-opt our attempts to put some spine in the Republican Party.

JONES: Yeah, but Joel, then there's the spin that the CNP runs the whole world now. ... It's a total distraction. ... I have seen globalist publications try to claim that the CNP is really like the CFR.

SKOUSEN: Yeah, absolutely not true. It started out with real Goldwater-type Republicans trying to be more conservative with Reagan, but it quickly got, as I said, infiltrated by establishment Republicans, because these people had money. And anybody who has got money can project their point of view. That got the establishment pretty worried, so that got infiltrated, so they stopped that and it has become a very lackluster organization that doesn't really do anything except collect fees.

JONES: Again, here you are exposing conspiracies, exposing the New World Order, and then you have a private group that tries to keep the Republican Party conservative. And it turns into this whole other conspiracy theory, put out by the Rolling Stone, who makes fun of things like the New World Order. It's ridiculous. But regardless, I have never been part of CNP, know almost nothing about it. Today it seems more like a residual thing, kinda like the Tea Party will be in 20 years if the globalists are successful in taking it over.

SKOUSEN: Yeah, precisely, that's exactly it. It will just get watered down more and more as the Tea Party will with establishment Republican support of establishment Republican candidates - and that's all the CNP does. Now, I was never able to afford the membership dues, so I was never formally a member, but I was I there during the incipient meetings and so I knew the people - and boy, it was amazing to sit there with Howard Phillips and Richard Viguerie and point out - you know, I was kind of a novice in Washington - who the big wigs were and who the infiltrators were. And it was a real education.

JONES: Absolutely. And Howard Phillips has been fighting the New World Order forever.

SKOUSEN: That's right. And a very straight shooter.

JONES: Well, you know, if Fox News was for real it be Joel Skousen, it be Howard Phillips - very well spoken; it be Ron Paul... (mp3)

Skousen explaining that he is a protege of Richard Viguerie and Howard Phillips, with both Skousen and Jones expressing their vocal support for Phillips is just absolutely stunning. These are some murderous death squad supporting favorites of the American Security Council. We'll get back to these individuals later.

Why Skousen dislikes George H. W. Bush is pretty obvious. Bush is Skull & Bones, comes from an Eastern Establishment banking family, has held a position at the United Nations, worked with Gorbachev and Yeltsin to turn the former Soviet Union into a western-oriented democracy (the so-called original "New World Order") and stacked his administration with men from Kissinger Associates. George W. Bush is no better: he went with the pro-Israel neocons, which the religious "old right" and "new right" of the CNP and John Birch Society don't care for either.

Seeing Skousen oust Bob Dole and Newt Gingrich as infiltrators of the CNP is not a mystery either. Dole did attend meetings of the American Security Council and was even awarded by the group. But in the end Dole never was a strict (extremist) Goldwater Republican. Sitting president Gerald Ford picked Dole as his running mate in 1976 over his own vice president Nelson Rockefeller in an effort to appease the ultraright without losing too much support among the center and left. In later years Dole even grew very close to Bill Clinton [14], whom John Birch and CNP conservatives have always loathed. Clearly Dole was never extreme enough.

As for Gingrich, he has only been added to ISGP's Superclass Index a few months ago. I only took notice of him after seeing that soon-to-be Soros agent and new left guru Arianna Huffington was an advisor to him in the 1990s. Back in the day Gingrich used to be southern regional director for presidential candidate Nelson Rockefeller, who lost the election to his friend, Nixon, another conservative who "betrayed" the Goldwater types when he, the Rockefellers and Kissinger established diplomatic relations with the communist Chinese. Gingrich clearly benefited from these early ties, because today he has been involved in at least 21 different relatively important NGOs. However, there's something highly unconventional about Gingrich. Unlike virtually every other name in the Superclass Index, his allegiances are very hard to pin down. The NGOs he's been involved with are spread out among liberal globalist, neocon, purely national security, and pretty much no old/new right ones. This is very unusual and whatever his role in the CNP was, he would have leaked everything to the Rockefeller clique.

That brings us to the question what roles Dole and Gingrich actually played in the CNP, because unlike two of Skousen's relatives (whom he doesn't mention) and his mentors Richard Viguerie and Howard Phillips, Dole and Gingrich do not appear in the historical membership lists of the CNP. Gingrich has been a speaker and undoubtedly Dole also has attended one or more meetings in the past, but it appears they never played any significant role in the group. After a little additional digging it - unsurprisingly - turns out that by the mid-1990s Gingrich was considered an enemy of CNP leaders as James Dobson for all kinds of compromises he had made to Clinton. [15] So is that why Skousen picked Dole and Gingrich as the only two examples of CNP "infiltration"? Because they are irrelevant individuals within the organization?

Moving on for the time being, on December 28, 2010, five months after the Skousen interview, Jones invites Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt to his program to talk about Yale secret society Skull & Bones. Iserbyt is not just anyone. Her grandfather, Samuel Clifton Thomson; and her father, Clifton Samuel Thomson, were tapped for Skull & Bones, along with well-known individuals as Henry Luce, McGeorge Bundy, George W. Bush and John Kerry. According to Iserbyt, her grandfather worked for and was close to Sir Abe Bailey - and most likely Cecil Rhodes himself - while working in South African mining operations in the 1902-1914 period. Her father was born in South Africa. Iserbyt has related how about 15 Bonesmen were present at her father's wedding, how she knew some of her father's Bones' friends rather well, how her father occasionally visited reunions of Bonesmen, and also described the mysterious grandfather clocks Bonesmen are given. [16] Apart from her experiences, Iserbyt appears to have actually been the person who secretly supplied Antony Sutton with photocopies of Skull & Bones membership lists from her father's collection. Within a year Sutton used these lists to produce his famous 1983 book America's Secret Establishment. [17]
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Charlotte Iserbyt interview, around 2005. On the table behind her are her father's three Skull & Bones membership books on which Antony Sutton (secretly) based his own 1983 Skull & Bones book, which Iserbyt is reading from here. Not visible: nearby Iserbyt also has a 1798 third edition copy of John Robinson's Proofs of a Conspiracy about the Illuminati. Important to note: Robinson's book was inspired by the Vatican, with the Illuminati being a pro-science Deist group - which most certainly was linked to freemasonry (including esoteric freemasonry as Memphis Misraim, Martinism and Synarchism), the anti-Vatican/Monarchist French Revolution and the American Revolution. Most members of the Illuminati, which absolutely hasn't existed anymore for centuries, are known. I organized them here years ago, along with names and membership of related groups. Sources should be easy to find, once you have the names.

This aspect of Iserbyt's history does seem to check out. And, as expected, some of her father's closest friends - the ones who actually rose to prominence - were picked up by the Pilgrims Society. One is Charles D. Hilles, Jr., an IT&T vice president and director, as well as a friend of CIA director Allen Dulles. This fits well, considering IT&T's history of Latin American coups and CIA ties. Hilles' father was also a Pilgrim. [18] The other, including two younger relatives, is General Charles M. Spofford, who could be found at Guaranty Trust, the Free Europe Committee, the Carnegie Corporation, the CFR and the North Atlantic Council. [19] In addition, Pilgrims Society president Nicholas Murray Butler prominently awarded Iserbyt's grandfather with Columbia University's School of Mining award, just before he was asked to come to South Africa and work for the Cecil Rhodes group. [20]

What I personally keep finding so interesting is that, in stark contrast to ISGP's truly grass-roots efforts, so much of the elite exposing over the years is actually done by individuals from either the same or an opposing establishment. Iserbyt here speaks for itself. Leading Skull & Bones author Kris Millegan, who (re)published the work of Sutton, Iserbyt and others, acknowledges quite freely that his father, Lloyd Millegan, was a ranking OSS, Army G2 and CIA officer. Completely as expected, Millegan, Sr. was acquainted with John Foster Dulles from a very young age, in his case after traveling from Shanghai to London via the Trans-Siberian Railway. A few years later Millegan, Sr. was recruited into the OSS and kept tabs on the notoriously fascist and stubborn General Douglas MacArthur as one of the general's staffers. A full decade later, in 1956, years before the Vietnam War broke out, he was partying with General Edward Lansdale and even a few North Vietnamese leaders in Saigon. Dulles, along with his brother, later belonged to the Pilgrims. MacArthur and Lansdale were favorites of the American Security Council. According to Millegan, his father claimed the Vietnam War was about drugs and that the Cold War really was a set-up ran by secret societies. While there certainly are a few mysteries to be explained and heroin clearly played one of several roles in the Vietnam conflict, I sincerely doubt Millegan, Sr. told his son the truth. Or that Millegan has told us the full truth of what his father told him. [21]

Another key individual exposing Skull & Bones back in the early 2000s - due to controversy surrounding Bonesmen George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush and John Kerry - was Scroll & Key member Alexandra Robbins. Sutton built up all kinds of similar elite ties in the 1968-1973 period as a research fellow at the elite, right-wing Hoover Institution. [22] By the time his 1973 book National Suicide came out, he was forced into the alternative genre because his material became a little too hot to handle for mainstream establishment circles. However, this is hardly different from the John Birch Society's relationship with more establishment ultraconservative groups as the American Security Council, Le Cercle, the WACL and Western Goals. Establishment conservatives can't go protesting Bilderberg or the Trilateral Commission, not too often and strenuously at least, or they risk being marginalized in the national media. That's why the John Birch Society and more than likely Alex Jones exist.

That having been said, many elements of the John Birch Society are considerably less rational than Sutton. Joel Skousen and Charlotte Iserbyt are perfect examples of this. Both claim that the collapse of the Soviet Union in the 1989-1991 period was "fake", i.e. a plot on behalf of the Soviets and most likely the Rockefeller clique to lull the West into a false sense of security, only to infiltrate it and slowly take it over. [23] This is kind of the extremist wing of an already extreme John Birch Society which establishment conservatives are fine with, because it puts the fear of God in a certain very politically active conservative section of society, but at the same time can't openly affiliate themselves with these extremists.

Iserbyt is the perfect example why establishment conservatives prefer to keep a little distance between themselves and John Birch Society extremists. They can fall a little bit too much into their role. Iserbyt used to be a senior policy coordinator in the Department of Education in the Reagan administration, which fits perfectly, because the Reagan administration for the most part was run by a group of ultraright conservative extremists with all kinds of primitive ideas. And thus Iserbyt has been claiming that the U.S. education system has been overhauled to "deliberately dumb down" the masses, a policy that, according to her, just by coincidence happens to go back to Nicholas Murray Butler and his associate Daniel Coit Gilman, a Bonesman and fellow-Carnegie man and Pilgrim. While it's obvious that elites prefer the vast majority of the masses to not be too intellectually curious, it's not like anti-neocon Barry Goldwater conservatives have honestly promoted intellectual curiosity among the masses either. They just prefer to saddle them up with a different type of programming.

Going back to Iserbyt, in the mid-1990s she got mad when the Council for National Policy wasn't backing her plan for a nation-wide campaign, including post cards and car stickers, to get the United States out of the United Nations in order to prevent this alleged communist take-over. No one in the CNP was interested in backing this campaign. This is hardly surprising, because at the highest level of policy making, and certainly with a very popular Clinton in office, this strategy is just too extreme, unscientific and unpredictable - and conservatives would be ridiculed until the end of time over it. So Iserbyt became disillusioned with the CNP and voices her criticism on the group in the final minutes of her December 28, 2010 interview with Alex Jones calling the group "just as evil as the Council on Foreign Relations." She also expresses the belief that Reagan, a.k.a. "Red Ronnie", always remained a closet communist, if not a secret Soviet agent, a theory that couldn't be more extreme and incorrect. Despite that, Iserbyt does acknowledge her belief that the "Heritage Foundation, you know, turns out all these wonderful reports and everything, with 90 percent you could agree with." Jones all of a sudden is less outright dismissive than a couple of months before, providing conflicting viewpoints while stammering that "folks have just pointed this [CNP] out - I wasn't even really aware of it until the last decade." His basic idea at this point seems to be that genuine people are still involved in the CNP, but that the group has been "infiltrated and taken over" and that now "there's no doubt it's promoting a globalist agenda." (mp3)

Kudos to him, on the spot Jones decides to have Iserbyt back on the air to discuss the CNP, which transpires two weeks later, on January 7, 2011. While normally very quick to dig up information on any subject he needs to discuss, once again Jones professes to be largely ignorant on the CNP, for the third time mentioning only one single fact about the group, namely that Hunt brothers set it up:

"[Iserbyt] brought up the, uh, [pretending to think hard] CNP, which I haven't done a lot of research on. People have asked me about it, so I have done some. They, reportedly, the Hunt brothers set it up and things. And she was saying that that was not a real organization, or that that isn't a conservative group trying to take America back, or fight the New World Order, as they claim. ...

"But is the whole CNP bad? Because, this is how I learned about the CNP: I've seen these little blurbs with the Hunt brothers. They sounded pretty good with trying to corner the silver market and get us out of the New World Order. But then I saw evidence of them being involved with the Kennedy stuff and Nixon. So I learn more as the years go on how foggy all of this is. And then I get emails: You had Pat Buchanan on. He's CNP. ... Well yeah, I have a lot of guests on. I've had a Rothschild on and scourged him on air. ... That doesn't mean I'm for him in the interview.

"But then there's also been a lot of people who have been in the CNP, like a Dr. Paul Craig Roberts and he's grown, he's learned things. I've talked to him about it and he just says it's basically ineffectual. [loud protest from Iserbyt] Okay, well, then tell me, because you know him. ...

"I know the CFR is bad, but a lot of their members are mid-level; they're brought in to be co-opted and be controlled. I, from my research, do believe that it was founded good, or got taken over, but certainly the CNP goes along with the whole neocon agenda and is bad. I just get emails saying, "Cover the CNP." So I have done research on it. ... I know they set up Heritage. You're saying you're sure [the Rockefellers and Richard Mellon Scaife] set it up [the CNP]? Wow, it's purely bad then. ... I haven't seen the proof of the John Birch Society. I've seen people claim that [that they've been infiltrated by the New World Order]...

"Well, I'll tell you who talked about this briefly in an interview and I should have gone into more in depth, because, you know, his uncle is a conservative icon, he's very well known. He's Joel Skousen, of Cleon Skousen family. And he agrees with you. In fact, we went and interviewed him in a two-part interview on this subject and other subjects how the neocons control the conservative movement. ...

"And that's why we're getting major traction, because of people like Charlotte Iserbyt over the years, and Dr. Stan Monteith and countless others, fighting the good fight against tyranny." (mp3)

It's just amazing to see Jones descend into a stammering mess when he tries to spin unwanted information in precisely the same manner as he is always accusing the mainstream media of doing. In the three discussed interviews he alternately claims that the CNP:

is a group he knows almost nothing about, so can't really inform his public about it;
has been the victim of a "globalist" or "New World Order" disinformation campaign;
started out "good", but has been infiltrated and taken by the "globalists" or the "New World Order";
still has "good" elements in it;
is ineffectual, irrelevant and therefore not worthy of studying;
must be bad if the Rockefellers and Scaife indeed set it up (note: no evidence of that as far as I'm aware, certainly not for the Rockefellers).

So what is it? In the future Jones will most likely stick to theory number 3. If strong evidence emerges for 6 he'll probably go for that, along with the theory that a lot of unwitting, honest conservatives - most notably his guests - have been sucked in. This aspect is quite predictable because Jones will have to find the middle ground between protecting conservative interests and his own credibility in front of his audience.
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Eustace Mullins' classic 1985 conspiracy book The World Order. Mullins' work on the Federal Reserve and Eastern Establishment was financed by John Birch financier H.L. Hunt [27], whose son Bunker largely set up the CNP. Mullins' political mentor, the jailed poet Ezra Pound, was a Nazi. [28] Despite that, I have always appreciated his work.
Until his death, Mullins was more of the anti-Semitic, holocaust-denying, pro-Nazi wing of the conspiracy movement surrounding the Liberty Lobby, the Spotlight, American Free Press, Rense and the Institute for Historical Review - instead of the John Bircher Society-allied Infowars machine.
However, both the John Birch Society and Liberty Lobby go back to General Douglas MacArthur's pro-fascist clique of generals and colonels. [29]

However, no matter what he will claim in the future, the fact remains that certainly on August 31, 2010 Jones was blatantly trying to shield the Council for National Policy from scrutiny by his own audience. Clearly to him it is only acceptable that his audience asks questions about liberal Eastern Establishment and maybe purely neocon groups. That's a very different approach than one would expect from a truly independent person interested in getting to the truth of different conspiracies.

To dive a little into the specifics of his claims: indeed most visitors of the CNP are against what Jones terms the "New World Order". It's a conservative and even partly neoconservative group specifically set up in 1981 as a counterweight to the Council on Foreign Relations. [24] So when "globalist publications [are] trying to claim that the CNP is really like the CFR," to use Jones' words, this is an accurate comparison. With "globalist publications" Jones is referring to Eastern Establishment-backed media outlets as the New York Times, Washington Post, Rolling Stone magazine, founded by a "liberal CIA" and Rockefeller-allied philanthropist, and the Rockefeller/Ford/Soros-funded Mother Jones magazine. I've not seen any articles by these media outlets that have been even remotely supportive of the CNP, as Jones claimed at one point. All of them report it's a secretive group with a lot of influence. For example, in January 2004 Robert Dreyfuss, a curious liberal journalist who also happens to be very protective of the CIA, described the Council for National Policy in Rolling Stone as "little-known but vastly powerful ... a secretive group of wealthy donors that has funneled billions of dollars to right-wing Christian activists." The article detailed the absolutely key role of apocalyptic CNP founder and leader Tim LaHaye in opening the doors for then-presidential candidate George W. Bush to the entire spectrum of the Christian right. [25] In December 2005, Mother Jones copied an older quote on the CNP that read "the most powerful conservative group you've never heard of," followed by: "[It] was founded in 1981 as a project of top John Birch Society figures." [26] Not particularly supportive statements. These descriptions were nothing new either. In December 1986, right after the Iran-Contra affair broke and only five years into the CNP's existence, the Washington Post wrote:
"One key target of [Oliver] North's efforts within the movement was the Council for National Policy (CNP) -- an obscure, exclusive organization of millionaires, fundamentalist preachers, top New Right politicos and members of Reagan's California "Kitchen Cabinet."

"The council is our hive, the greatest networking institution we have," said one participant.

"Among its members, paying a $5,000 fee, are Nelson Bunker Hunt, Joseph Coors, the Rev. Jerry Falwell, Marion G. (Pat) Robertson, Richard Viguerie, Paul Weyrich, Arnaud de Borchgrave and Henry Salvatori. Administration officials -- T. Kenneth Cribb, counselor to Attorney General Edwin Meese III; William Bradford Reynolds, assistant attorney general; and Gary Bauer, assistant secretary of education -- also have taken part in CNP activities this year." [30]

Looking at the CNP membership, I don't recognize any Rockefeller influence whatsoever. What I do see is Mark Skousen [31], a more established brother of Alex Jones' guest Joel Skousen, an already admitted leading CNP member (but not listed anywhere by outside researchers). The uncle of Joel and Mark was W. Cleon Skousen, coincidentally an early CNP governor [32], who also used to be field director of the American Security Council in the 1961-1964 period, as well as an assistant to the similarly ultraright FBI director J. Edgar Hoover. The Skousens are quite the CNP family. Maybe Jones should have pointed out that they aren't exactly the most unbiased source on the CNP.

There's more. Cleon, a Mormon whose work in recent years was cited by presidential candidate Mitt Romney [33], actually managed to get pushed aside by the American Security Council for being too fringe or extreme. That's saying something - and clearly this did not end his role as a government disinformer at all. In 1970 he published the conspiracy best-seller The Naked Capitalist, which was largely a review of Carroll Quigley's classic book Tragedy and Hope. In the book Cleon wrote that JFK was killed by a conspiracy, but, predictably, Oswald and any unidentified shooters were part of a secret communist plot - certainly not CIA. In other words, naughty Cleon was spreading disinformation. Then, more than 30 years later, his nephew Joel Skousen, apart from the "fake" Soviet Union collapse theory, is among many promoting clear disinformation that a missile must have hit the Pentagon on 9/11. [34] Thus the naughty Joel can also be considered a national security asset. And certainly this family has largely been working through the CNP.

While discussing the CNP, Alex Jones also makes a reference to Dr. Stanley Monteith, another one of his guests, without mentioning that Monteith was a member of the CNP, along with his wife Barbara. [35] Many years ago, when I just started out with this type of research, I naively asked Monteith why he had attended meetings of the CNP. His answer? "To counter the propaganda." It's one of these answers: it's true and it's not true. It's true, because Monteith undoubtedly was frustrated with the neocon influences in the CNP, but it's untrue because he himself represented despicable and very primitive interests.

It's telling though that Monteith provided such an ambiguous answer on his CNP involvement. Certainly Jones would have been better off if he just completely distanced himself from the group. Quite possibly this article would have never been written if Jones had done so from the beginning, because his dismissal of the CNP in the manner that he did is what really got me looking into any possible evidence that he is a national security asset. And man, did I find a few things.

Jones praises CNP apartheid, death squad and CIA drug trafficking supporter

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Mark Skousen and the Monteiths can hardly be considered the most important members of the CNP. Granted, most of the names I'm not familiar with, indicating they are only influential in national conservative politics and never played much of a role in the private supranational security establishment of the old American Security Council, Le Cercle, WACL and Western Goals. Despite that, more than a few names do stand out and quite quickly one has to come to the conclusion that the historical CNP membership features more than a few names involved in CIA drug trafficking and support of death squads. In other words, there shouldn't be any reason for Jones to shield the CNP from scrutiny if he is a honest conspiracy researcher and peace activist. Although technically Jones is right that the group started out opposing the "globalists" or "New World Order", never in its history did it even remotely consist of respectable, upstanding U.S. citizens - quite the contrary.

Maybe we should start with Howard Phillips, Joel Skousen's political mentor within the CNP. Skousen referred to him as "a patriot", with Alex Jones adding: "Absolutely. Howard Phillips has been fighting the New World Order forever." Phillips may have been fighting the New World Order, but he was also fighting poor Third World peasants. He was a founding governor of the CNP and later served on the group's executive committee. [36] A decade earlier, in 1974, Phillips founded The Conservative Causes (TCC), chairing the group until 2011. [37] In 1979 he played an important role in the founding of Moral Majority, along with a group of apocalyptic religious extremists as Paul Weyrich, Richard Viguerie and Jerry Falwell - all of them soon active in the CNP. [38] By this time Phillips already began to make a name for himself with statements as "we organize discontent" and "[we] must prove our ability to get revenge on people who go against us. ... We'll be after them, if they vote the wrong way. We're not going to stop after the vote's past." [39] By the 1980s The Conservative Causus maintained a very close working relationship with the American Security Council and the World Anti-Communist League (WACL) through men as Phillips and Jack Abramoff. [40] In another example, American Security Council consultant and CNP member Major Andy Messing, a close Iran-Contra friend of General John Singlaub, Colonel Oliver North and Dick Cheney, was executive director of the TCC from 1979 to 1984. [41]

Considering the TCC's completely similar aims as the American Security Council, it was equally notorious for supporting Angola's UNITA rebels [42], South Africa's apartheid dictatorship [43], and Latin America's death squad leaders. In a particularly noteworthy example from 1987, Phillips was part of a joint ASC-TCC delegation visiting Nicaraguan death squad leader Colonel Enrique Bermudez. [44] This individual has already been discussed at length in ISGP's American Security Council article for standing at the basis of not just horrendous death squad activity, but also for being a key individual in starting the CIA crack-cocaine affair of the 1980s. [45] In the same period, a CNP meeting involving Phillips, Jack Abramoff and Colonel Oliver North was fingered as the start of the campaign to have secretary of state George Shultz (and his secretary of state John Whitehead, another very close friend of the Rockefellers) fired for not being supportive enough of these type of activities. [46] It weren't just Shultz and Whitehead that the CNP opposed. Starting in 1982, Phillips and the CNP tried to have James Baker III, a close Saudi oil friend of George H. W. Bush and the Rockefeller clique, dismissed as Reagan's chief of staff. [47] The year before, the CNP opposed the nomination of Sandra Day O'Connor to the U.S. Supreme Court. [48] The CNP also disliked Reagan's secretary of state Caspar Weinberger, who CIA director William Casey and his clique of private American Security Council / CNP Iran-Contra warriors tried to isolate from access to Reagan. [49]

It's these type of activities that Skousen referred to when he talked about "stopping the compromises the Reagan administration was involved in under the influence of vice president George Bush." Then again, seemingly their only high-level government ally, CIA director William Casey, also had an establishment history involving the OSS and numerous Pilgrims Society business members (Shultz, Whitehead, Weinberger, O'Conner have all been involved with the Pilgrims, with still unverified claims existing about Bush and Baker). Luckily for Shultz, Whitehead, Weinberger, Bush and Baker, their Rockefeller friends in the media soon had a field day exposing the Iran-Contra affair in what really is a great example of domestic establishment warfare. The CNP / ASC on the one hand; the CFR / Pilgrims / Rockefeller crowd on the other. It should be clear by now in what camp Alex Jones and Joel Skousen can be found.

In light of Phillips' activities, we would almost forget about the other mentor of Skousen, Richard Viguerie, who was another founding governor and later executive member of the CNP. [50] He has almost the same biography as Phillips. Equally involved in Young Americans for Freedom (YAF), Moral Majority and the American Security Council, by the 1980s Viguerie was known as a propagandist for dictators and death squad leaders around the world. He is also known, for example, to have met with Nicaragua's Enrique Bermudez [51] and to have provided his El Salvadoran death squad colleague Roberto D'Aubuisson with an award at the Capitol Hill Club for "continuing efforts for freedom in the face of communist aggression." [52] He was one of the many collaborators in these circles with the Moonie Cult. It's amazing really that Skousen has dared to admit being a protege of Phillips and Viguerie. The New York Times already reported on it back in 1983 [53], but if Skousen had not mentioned it himself in his Alex Jones interview, I would have completely overlooked it.

The CIA in CNP

Howard Phillips and Richard Viguerie happen to be particularly closely tied CNP members to Jones and Skousen due to the information provided by the latter two. But this is far from the only controversy we can find in the CNP. So let's take a look at some the other members.

A first interesting name listed right under "A" is Jack Abramoff, a member of the CNP in the mid-1980s [54] when he also was promoting South Africa's apartheid regime on behalf of the American Security Council. As late as 2004, when Abramoff was finding himself in legal trouble that eventually landed him in jail, he was working with the old American Security Council leadership in Phillips' National Security Caucus Foundation, of which he was a director. What I personally find very interesting is that Jack Abramoff was the most visible foreign contact of the Dutch-Jewish-American businessman Robert Rubinstein in the 2012-2013 period, right when Rubinstein became a covert financier of Micha Kat, Holland's loudest and most obnoxious conspiracy activist. Kat, who can be considered the Alex Jones of the Netherlands, is part of a small but prominent conspiracy disinformation network with ties not just to Rubinstein and (possibly) Abramoff, but also the Republican Society, apparent CIA drug importers and elites as the Rockefellers and George Soros. See ISGP's articles on the Demmink affair and Republican Society for details.
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July 1987, Time magazine, height of the Iran-Contra affair. Colonel Oliver North was elevated to the CNP board during the affair. CNP governor General John Singlaub was North's closest sidekick in the private Latin America "counterinsurgency" war. CNP governor General Daniel Graham was also deeply involved.

Another interesting CNP name is Nancy Cline. [55] Briefly before her death she was appointed a director of the OSS Society, which, according to one insider, "runs the CIA from behind the scenes." [56] She was the wife of the Eastern Establishment-linked CIA officer Ray Cline, a strategy board member of the American Security Council who has been involved in every anti-communist death squad and terrorist aspect of the Cold War, from Taiwan to Europe.

Beurt SerVaas was also a CNP member. [57] ISGP has been familiar with him due to his presence at one point on the board of the OSS Society. An OSS veteran, by the 1960s SerVaas ran a shady domestic private intelligence firm with government connections. By the 1980s he was said to be a good friend of CIA director William Casey and linked to the Iran-Contra business.

As for Iran-Contra ties to the CNP, it gets considerably worse. Back in the 1980s General John Singlaub, today an OSS Society chairman [58]; General Daniel Graham [59] and Colonel Oliver North [60] were sitting on the CNP board. These were absolutely key individuals overseeing the private war in and around Nicaragua on behalf of CIA director William Casey and President Reagan in the 1980s. They were doing domestic fund-raising while advising foreign governments on "counter-insurgency" (i.e. death squad) tactics.

More examples from the CNP board? How about Edwin Feulner, members of the Coors family and Paul Weyrich? [61] Together these men founded the Heritage Foundation. In a 1986 Belgian police report, the Heritage Foundation was accurately referred to as the main American branch of the Cercle and Opus Dei network. [62] In addition, Feulner is a Knight of Malta who used to be on the strategy board of the American Security Council with General John Singlaub and "retired" CIA chiefs James Angleton, Ray Cline and Daniel Arnold [63], the latter repeatedly mentioned as a CIA heroin trafficker. And while it might not necessarily mean a whole lot, it still is interesting to note that at one point Alex Jones was shipping pocket constitutions produced by the Heritage Foundation with all orders he sent out to his customers. I wonder if the Clinton Global Initiative printed a similar folder, if Jones would still accept and distribute them...
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The son of CNP board member Elsa Prince, Erik Prince, later founded and chaired Total Intelligence Solutions and Blackwater USA, the private CIA and Bush White House nexus of the JSOC assassination programs in the post 9/11 world. Blackwater later changed its name to Academi, with the new chairman being a long-time key shareholder in Coast to Coast AM.
Top-level neocon, former CIA director and known CNP speaker James Woolsey chairs the advisory board of ExecutiveAction, LLC, a firm named after the CIA's term for assassination.

Another interesting example from the CNP board in the 1980s is Elsa Prince, whose family also helps finance the CNP. [64] Elsa is the mother of Erik Prince, an anti-Sadinista propagandist and Navy Seal of the 1990s who came to own Total Intelligence Solutions and Blackwater USA. In the post-9/11 world these two companies were used by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and "retired" CIA Counter-Terrorist Center chief Cofer Black to support CIA and JSOC assassination programs, carried out by special forces and drones. [65] Interesting detail? Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld have all attended meetings of the secretive Council for National Policy in late 1990s and early 2000s. [66] So much for "ineffectual". And thus we are forced to conclude that Joel Skousen and Alex Jones are at least partially helping to shield the Bush administration and its criminal War on Terror policies, apart, of course, from the murderous policies of the Reagan administration. Also, didn't we already discuss in Cult of National Security Trolls that Red McCombs, a key shareholder of the million-dollar Coast to Coast AM show, on which Jones has been so prominently featured since 2004, followed up Erik Prince as chairman of Blackwater? And that he was flanked by Bush's former attorney general and Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, a former deputy director of the CIA and head of the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) and the NSA? I believe so. It's such a small world at the top.

In recent years former CIA director and arch-neocon James Woolsey was named as a speaker to the CNP, one day before Frank Gaffney, the founder of the Center for Security Policy, a pro-neocon continuation of the American Security Council, was scheduled to have a debate with Alex Jones guest Pat Buchanan. The subject was Israel, thus this was a typical neocon versus old right/new right debate. [67] Woolsey is listed number two in ISGP's Superclass Index, immediately behind Henry Kissinger, with a confirmed involvement in 86 important NGOs. Gaffney features in the same index just outside the top 50 with a confirmed involvement in 20 NGOs.

Thomas Spencer is another member of the CNP who stands out, at least to ISGP. [68] This site is aware of him because of research into the secretive CIA-Opus Dei liaison group Le Cercle. In the 1994-2002 period this group was registered under Atlantic Cercle, Inc. at the estate of the most notorious CIA officer in the history of the Agency: Ted Shackley, who served as Atlantic Cercle, Inc.'s president. His friend and attorney Thomas Spencer was listed as secretary, treasurer and director of the group. Back in the Iran-Contra days Spencer served as attorney to General John Singlaub [69] and General Richard Secord [70] when they, together with Ted Shackley and other "Secret Team" members were accused of drug trafficking by the Christic Institute of Daniel Sheehan. [71] Interesting details? Sheehan has been a long-time Rockefeller flunky and the Christic Institute was financially backed by Hillary Clinton's New World Foundation, a foundation allied with the Rockefeller and Ford foundations. This is another aspect of the liberal versus conservative establishment war that was written about in the previous section.
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The Clinton Chronicles, detailing Clinton's alleged involvement in the cocaine trade and assassinations to keep everything quiet. While the story, at least to a large extent, seems hard to dispute (although Clinton may have had little say in everything that went on), the film has actually been produced by none other than soon-to-be CNP member Pat Matrisciana [79] with financial backing of ultraright CIA asset and Clinton enemy Richard Mellon Scaife. The CNP's Jerry Falwell relentlessly promoted the film on television at the time. To make matters even more bizarre, in 1998 Matrisciana admitted to having founded Campus Crusade for Christ at Berkeley on behalf of the CIA to counter the Free Speech Movement and in the process to have "invented Jesus freaks." [80] It makes one wonder to what extend the U.S.' rather unique ultraright Christian conservative movement is maintained because it serves a national security purpose.

Another very interesting name on a 1996 CNP list that has been overlooked is Alton Ochsner, Jr. from Louisiana. [81] His father played a leading role in the New Orleans establishment employing Clay Shaw, Lee Harvey Oswald and district attorney Jim Garrison, whose largely bogus investigation (fake witnesses, 6 shots fired, shooters in the sewer and Daltex building, etc.), financed by this same group, is still heralded by the online conspiracy community. Ochsner, Sr. was also a long-time chair of Tulane University where it is only reasonable to suspect an MKULTRA research and child abuse ring was situated with ties to the Rockefeller group, the Pilgrims Society and United Fruit. Oh right, I almost forgot: Alton Ochsner, Sr. also ran the Information Council of the Americas (INCA), a local ultraright anti-communist action group that overlapped with the American Security Council and Le Cercle.

Basically just about every decently well-known member of the Council for National Policy is controversial. Membership has included the apocalyptic high priests of Christian extremism: Tim LaHaye, a key founder [73]; Pat Robertson, president and governor [74]; and Jerry Falwell [75], in addition to a host of Moonie Cult supporters and senior CIA and Pentagon assets. [76] Finally, Nelson Bunker Hunt, from a family that has been sponsoring the John Birch Society from very early on [77], and himself a member of Prince Bernhard's 1001 Club, together with the Rockefellers and Rothschilds (but also the ultraright Murchisons), was CNP president in 1983 and 1984. Bunker Hunt indeed put up crucial funding to get the CNP going [77], so at least that aspect Alex Jones got right.

Clearly Jones has been overlooking numerous controversial ties to be found in the CNP. If we take away the thin layer of propagandist veneer, the whole shtick that the CNP used be some kind of genuine "patriot" or "Goldwater Republican" group for the masses makes no sense whatsoever. Many of the names mentioned above were involved either from the beginning or shortly after the group was founded. Also, Barry Goldwater was the darling of the pro-fascist American Security Council crowd with close friends as General Curtis LeMay, just one of a number of ASC members looking to start a "preventive war" with the Soviet Union. Between the two of them, it appears they have also been spreading a little Roswell UFO disinformation, with Jones and Skousen coincidentally being prominent no-planers with regard to 9/11. See ISGP's American Security Council and Cult of National Security Trolls for these facts about LeMay and Goldwater.

CNP guests of Alex Jones

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Larry Pratt, a CNP member and former head of Gun Owners of America, also an occasional Alex Jones guest. Pratt is one of several CNP guests of Alex Jones I ran into after the original article was already finished.

One is forced to assume that Jones is purposely ignoring the controversy to be found in the CNP (and related groups). How many CNP visitors have been among his guests apart from Joel Skousen, Paul Craig Roberts and Stanley Monteith? That's hard to say, because Jones doesn't seem to maintain proper archives for his radio show and also because quite a few individuals visit CNP meetings as guests of registered members. In recent years Alex Jones Show guest Jack McLamb, head of something called "Police and Military Against the New World Order", admitted to having visited the CNP at one point, together with former CNP governor James Dobson [81], a reasonably influential force in congress [82] and one of the promoters of the myth that Mother Teresa was a saint. The fact that he campaigns against pornography can only mean one thing: pornography is great.

Pat Buchanan, of course, has been identified already as a CNP member and Alex Jones Show guest. When Jones himself explained how he received some flak over this after inviting Buchanan to his radio show on August 28, 2006, he twisted the facts again when referencing liberal global warming activist David de Rothschild as an example that he doesn't necessarily agree with all the guests he invites. Whoever listens to the Pat Buchanan interview will notice that Jones was very respectful and that he was in total agreement with Buchanan, who was talking about the North America Union and immigration problems. During the Rothschild interview, however, Jones acted like an absolute raving lunatic to an actually very polite Rothschild. It was one of his many embarrassing performances. It's very clear that Jones has far less issue with a CNP member than a liberal global warming activist. On top of that, Jones, of course, doesn't want to hear anything about the enormous increase in CO2 levels over the past 150 years or the ever-rising sea levels, important problems that need to be discussed and dealt with.
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Phyllis Schlafly's CNP speech in Alex Jones' 2007 film Endgame, around 1:41:00. In more recent years Schlafly has become a regular guest on the Alex Jones Show.

Another very important former CNP governor who has been an occasional guest on the Alex Jones Show in recent years is John Bircher Phyllis Schlafly. [83] She wrote three books with American Security Council strategy board member Admiral Chester Ward: The Gravediggers (1964), attacking the Eastern Establishment; [Soviet] Strike from Space: A Megadeath Mystery (1966) and Kissinger on the Couch (1974). This last book made the case that Nixon and Kissinger were paws of the Soviet Union and that the CFR's only purpose is to turn the United States into some kind of communist-style dictatorship. Where have we heard that before? Right, Joel Skousen, Charlotte Iserbyt, Alex Jones, etc.

Interestingly, just over 1 hour and 40 minutes into Alex Jones' 2007 film Endgame, he features a clip of Phyllis Schlafly giving a speech at a CNP meeting, standing right behind a very large "Council for National Policy" sign. That makes his claim three years later that he pretty much knew nothing about the CNP - while at the same time dismissing and marginalizing it - only more suspect.

Let's face it, what other conclusion is there to draw that Alex Jones is a propagandist for conservative elements and almost certainly functions as a government disinformer? The only question really is who he is taking his orders from, because unlike more mainstream media figures, Jones is running his own enterprise and seems to have no bosses. But apparently he does have them.

CNP-tied admiral looking for "infowarriors" in CNP and Jones-tied WorldNetDaily

Alex Jones' fondness of the John Birch Society and Council for National Policy reminds me of an interview he gave in March 2000 when he was overseeing the rebuilding of the Branch Davidian cult's church at Waco. Apart from expressing his support for the cult, which killed four ATF agents and was ran by pedophile psychopath David Koresh, he also plugged Admiral Thomas Moorer's recent call for "information warriors":

"Infowar is short for Information War and Admiral Moorer, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, just a few weeks ago, called for an information war and said that every American who is on the ball should know what is happening doesn't take action now ... we're gonna completely lose this country. They're building prisons everywhere. They're merging the military and the police. Out in Austin the old Robert Mueller Airport, they've taken one of the hangars and put bolts and chains on the floor and barbed wire... It's getting weird." [84]

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Admiral Thomas Moorer with President Richard Nixon, some time before Watergate. After retirement Moorer became involved in the American Security Council, Western Goals and Le Cercle. He bitterly opposed policies as containment and detente, introduced by Henry Kissinger's Eastern Establishment clique.

Jones was referring here to a recent article in WorldNetDaily.com, founded by CNP member Joseph Farah [85], in which Moorer called for "citizen reporters" and "information warriors" to set up the "New Media - specifically Internet and talk radio - as weapons of truth" and to counter the "false and inaccurate reporting from the establishment media." In a particularly catchy quote, Moorer stated: "In an age of 'information war,' every citizen is an information warrior." [86] WorldNetDaily itself was one of these ultraright online "new media" outlets that appeared at the time, as was Newsmax, which was controlled by a daughter of Iran-Contra CIA director William Casey and Richard Mellon Scaife [87], a known ultraright CIA asset [88] who for some time was also backing WorldNetDaily's Joseph Farah. [89] WorldNetDaily and Newsmax basically were sister enterprises. What might surprise readers is that Newsmax chair Lord William Rees-Mogg, along with former CIA director William Colby and a number of associates, just like Infowars, have indulged in "gossip" involving the Clinton murders, Mena and Oklahoma. [90] The same goes for WorldNetDaily [91], which actually in a very subtle manner managed to promote the no-plane-at-Pentagon theory right from the start. [92]

As I continue to look around, the surprises keep piling up. To continue, former Richard Mellon Scaife agent and WorldNetDaily.com founder Joseph Farah is a regular guest of the Alex Jones Show, where he enjoys talking to Jones about libertarian and Christian values. The two clearly have a great relationship. And this might have something to do with the fact that Jones is a former freelancer of WorldNetDaily who to this day is regularly plugged by the publication. [93] As for the freelancing, back in February 1999, less than three months before Infowars went live, it was reported that "Austin radio talk show host Alex Jones [is] on assignment from WorldNetDaily" to interview a San Antonio police chief who complained that Delta Force was trying to bribe local officials so they would allow its elite Night Stalkers unit to conduct urban training exercises. [94] At the time several of these rather bizarre, unannounced exercises were going on in different cities. [95] As long-time Alex Jones followers will probably remember, this footage made it into some of his early films. And it seems he has to thank WorldNetDaily, with its rather obvious CNP and conservative CIA ties, for that.
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Joseph Farah: A CNP member once financed by ultraright CIA asset Richard Mellon Scaife to undermine Bill Clinton, and also the founder of WorldNetDaily, for which Jones freelanced on at least one occasion before setting up Infowars.com. Farah is an occasional guest of the Alex Jones Show.
WorldNetDaily contributor John Rocker is also known to have appeared on the Alex Jones Show.

When we search Newsmax for reports that include Alex Jones, we find that they are relatively unbiased towards him [96], in contrast to liberal media outlets. There also aren't that many of them when compared to WorldNetDaily: several dozen over the years instead of several hundred. It is clear that Jones' connection to WorldNetDaily and Joseph Farah is much closer than Christopher Ruddy and his Newsmax publication. The only semi-legitimate ultraright news site Jones has a closer relationship with than WorldNetDaily is Matt Drudge of DrudgeReport.com, which Infowars is continually linking to. Having a few degrees of separation between Infowars and Newsmax is very much to the benefit of Jones, because Newsmax is very elite and very closely tied to the security state. Apart from investors as Richard Mellon Scaife and the daughter of CIA director William Casey, CIA and Moonie Cult-tied individuals as Alexander Haig and Arnaud de Borchgrave could be found on the board. [97] We can argue that Newsmax might be more controlled by establishment individuals of the "new right" and neocon pro-interventionist camp, with Farah and Jones in particular belonging to the "old right" isolationist camp. Quite possibly this is why Scaife cut off Farah's financing in the late 1990s without ever providing him with an explanation. But then again, who really knows to what extent these actions are by design? The conservative national security establishment has always tried to distance itself from "old right" John Birchers, but in reality the latter has always been covering for the former. On Infowars we can find a reference to Richard Mellon Scaife being a CIA asset, but based on Scaife's middle name and rather hawkish security state associations he automatically has to be "New World Order" in Jones' eyes.

Speaking of CIA, one of Jones' favorite guests is Larry Nichols, who is a former liaison between the CIA's American Security Council and Contra forces in Nicaragua, including at least one high-level connection deeply tied to massive cocaine export to the United States. [98] In 1988, after Arkansas governor Bill Clinton was forced to fire Nichols due to an expose of the Associated Press, Nichols turned on his former employer. Throughout the 1990s Larry Nichols, Richard Mellon Scaife, Christopher Ruddy and CNP members Joseph Farah, Pat Matrisciana and Jerry Falwell were cooperating in undermining the Clinton presidency. [99] Their crown "achievement" was the notorious The Clinton Chronicles video, in which they regurgitated the old Barry Seal / Mena affair, stripped all references to the CIA and Reagan White House, and blamed EVERYTHING on a private clique involving Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Clinton's attorney general Webster Hubbell and a few other close associates of Clinton. While anybody who is familiar with the ins and outs of the Mena affair, involving Barry Seal's cocaine imports and the train track murders, knows that Clinton played a role in covering up the CIA and White House-ran activity, there's no evidence that Clinton was anywhere near the kingpin The Clinton Chronicles makes him out to be. The Clinton Chronicles actually turned the very serious Mena affair into a cheap liberal vs conservative mud-slinging contest, with liberal establishment outlets as the New York Times and Mother Jones defending Clinton but at the same time also blatantly covering up the involvement of the CIA, Reagan White House and the Justice Department.

Now, it is in these turbulent mud-slinging 1990s, that Alex Jones first becomes friends with CIA asset Larry Nichols of The Clinton Chronicles [100] and Joseph Farah of WorldNetDaily and the CNP, who basically could be considered a CIA asset through Richard Mellon Scaife in this period. As already explained, Jones was even on assignment by WorldNetDaily before setting up his Infowars website. In other words, Jones is actually working with and working for individuals who are helping to cover up the CIA and conservative Reagan White House policies. So, espcially in light of all the disinformation Jones has spread since then, it's kind of hard to not go: who recruited this guy? It appears to be the same group that Larry Nichols and Joseph Farah were working for.

Because of the sudden, unexpected revelation (to me) that Jones has been so close to WorldNetDaily's Joseph Farah, we got sidetracked when discussing Admiral Thomas Moorer. Clearly it's pretty much certain at this point that there is a connection between Moorer's call in February 2000 for "information warriors" in WorldNetDaily while Alex Jones was freelancing for the same publication just a year before, having founded Infowars.com in the mean time. One almost begins to suspect that Moorer is part of the same CIA and/or conservative security state clique of Farah and Nichols and may even have had a hand in vetting Alex Jones for his role as conspiracy disinformer.

As it turns out, Jones interviewed Admiral Thomas Moorer some time before his death in 2004 [92]. In it, Moorer accused Rockefeller friend LBJ and defense minister Robert McNamara (Pilgrims Society, Ford Foundation and Rockefeller man) of covering up the 1967 Israeli attack on the U.S. spy ship U.S.S. Liberty. [92] Moorer did this on many other occasions. He has also been far from the only ranking navy insider to make that accusation. [94] Still, as prominent as the incident is in the alternative media and as strong as the evidence is for a deliberate attack by the Israelis on the ship, the mainstream media continues to shy away from the story for some reason. The U.S.S. Liberty incident truly is one of the most blatant cover ups in modern history. But while Alex Jones got at least one thing right, the story really has been exposed in its entirety without his involvement.

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Despite the fact that Admiral Moorer was raising genuine questions about the U.S.S. Liberty incident, it hardly makes the mutual Jones-Moorer support any less worrying than Jones' protection of the Council for National Policy. While there is no evidence in the public domain at this point, it is possible, if not likely, that Admiral Moorer attended one or more meetings of the CNP at one point or another. Why? Because more than a few visitors are not listed as members; they come along with registered members (or look at Joel Skousen, for example: very prominent within the CNP, but not officially a member). And also because Moorer sat on the board of the American Security Council [95] and the Western Goals Foundation [96], has visited Le Cercle [97], and overall was one of the closest allies of CNP board members General John Singlaub, General Daniel Graham and Colonel Oliver North. In other words, Moorer provides additional circumstantial evidence of the kind of backing the Infowars enterprise has received.

One has to remember: Jones, nor any establishment, is interested in providing the public with any balance of facts. It's not like Henry Kissinger or David Rockefeller ever had the idea of sitting down with Jones and talk about the numerous death squad leaders, drug traffickers and Gladio terrorists the leadership of the American Security Council, Western Goals, WACL and Le Cercle have been working with. As Jones' Rothschild interview and his 9/11 Chronicles documentary demonstrate, he simply will not engage establishmentarians in rational discussion. They're considered the enemy: CNP and John Birch-style. And also Admiral Moorer-style. As the rest of Moorer's biography makes clear, he wasn't just a critic of Israel, he also was a major opponent of the Rockefellers and Henry Kissinger.

Before non-Eastern Establishmentarian Thomas Moorer joined the ultraright NGO circuit, he was chief of naval operations from 1967 to 1970 and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from 1970 to 1974. In these functions he was on the inside of the super-secret worldwide Navy spy group Task Force 157, a competitor in some respects of the CIA. Moorer became notorious during the Senate hearings in 1974 when the Watergate affair was

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