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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:12 am    Post subject: David Icke: Channelling Spiritualist/Theosophist Betty Shine Reply with quote

BETTY SHINE
Dr David C. F. Wright
http://www.christian-moral.net/pdf/betty-shine.pdf

The Sun newspaper claimed Betty Shine as the world's number one healer which is a ridiculous statement since
how can human being be called that? What about all the doctors, surgeons, consultants and GPs who regularly
heal people and, indeed, save lives?
Compare this woman with Jesus Christ. It is not known how many He healed. We read that all who came to Him,
He healed. He even raised both Lazarus and the daughter of Jairus from the dead. Is Betty Shine a greater healer
than Christ?
The Independent said that all who encounter Betty and her supernatural powers will find it hard to remain
sceptical. That is also untrue. I know people who have encountered her and say the exact opposite. Two very dear
friends of mine were victims of her nonsense and, as a result, they are now nervous wrecks. Before they encountered
Shine, they were normal well-balanced individuals.
In 1984 we put advertisements in several well-known and popular journals asking people who had been helped
by Betty Shine to write to us with their experiences of her. We did not get one positive reply but, from one
journal, we had 127 letters from people saying that they all had proved that she was a fraud.
Like many spiritualists, she uses words and expressions which do no make sense and which you will not find in
dictionaries. She talks about mind waves which she says gives simple answers to the whole structure of the
paranormal and is a must for budding psychics. She also talks about mind magic, another invented phrase. Magic
is illusion, trickery and deception. Look the word up in any dictionary. Therefore mind magic must be deception
and illusion.
But what are mind waves? You won't find this expression in any 2008 dictionary. The mind is the part of a human
being that is responsible for thoughts, feelings and intentions. Waves are (1) the gesture to say goodbye, (2) to
guide or direct someone as in backing a car, (3) to hold something up and wave to gain attention, (4) a ridge of
the surface of the sea or other body of water, (5) a curve in the hair, (6) a prolonged spell of weather as a heat
wave and, ( 7) in science, a disturbance that carries energy by a series of vibrations without any movement of
matter. Again, consult a dictionary.
She says that mind waves control both our private lives and the whole world, and that individual minds linking
with others becomes an ocean and if the waves are not positive we could lose everything to a mass of negative
energy.
What in the world is she talking about? It is mumbo jumbo and needs translation. But if she used words correctly
we might understand her.
People who think the same positive thoughts can benefit the world seems to be her message. But it is not an
original concept and despite the efforts of man through the centuries all such positive thinking by groups of
people has not made the world a better place..
Perhaps she means telepathy, but the word really means suffering from afar; tele means far and pathy is the word
pathos. But spiritualists state that telepathy means the direct communication of thoughts or feelings between two
people without using speech, writing or touch. How do we arrive at this definition from suffering from afar?
However, this erroneous meaning is in our language and we have had to accept it. But why have a word for
natural events?
Let me quote some examples.
Those of us who love the music of Beethoven are like minded. We share similar opinions. We do not issue a
direct communication from our respective minds of our views without speech, writing or touch. And the word
communication means the exchange of views, thoughts and feelings by speech, writings, including e mail, or
through another person, a second or third party.
If I met someone for the first time and sat down with them in an empty room I am not going to know what they
think of Beethoven unless they tell me.
What about love at first sight? I know it happens.
Would Betty Shine say it was telepathy? Was it the minds of two people communicating with each other without
speech, writing or touch ?
It was the result of what the eye saw. Beauty is said to be in the eye of the beholder.
In one of her books, Shine talks of her ability to perform psychic surgery. Psychic surgery is another erroneous
and ridiculous expression and concept. Psychic surgery does not and cannot exist. Surgery is the medical procedure
by which a qualified person cuts the patients body to treat or remove the problem. Is Shine a qualified surgeon ?
For example, has she performed an appendicectomy in an operating theatre in a hospital ?
She talks about an operation in two parts carried out by her and then by spirit doctors on a boy with brain
damage. What she does not tell us is what had to be done to that damaged brain, why the medical profession did
not conduct an operation and she does not speak about the subsequent medical evidence to show the healing such
as the resultant X ray of the brain.
She talks of another one of her patients, another wrong use of a word, who had a problem with their stomach. She
saw a small cloud of energy which changed into a scalpel and then the hands of the spirits cut into the patient's
stomach and pulled out a substance that looked like balls of cotton wool. Shine does not say what the medical
condition was or why doctors did not attend to it. She asserts that after these psychic operation she draws her
finger along the cut so that there will not be a scar. She calls that finger her energy knife.
Alastair had an infected appendix and the surgeons were loathe to operate fearing they might spread the infection.
Shine said she could do the operation by psychic power although she was 6,000 miles away. Shine informed the
patient that she had removed his appendix and in a few weeks time all the infection would also be gone. She was
adamant about this. Alastair believed this but a month later had a X ray. The appendix had not be removed and
the infection had spread.
Shine prevented people going to the doctor or a consultant stating that she could heal them on payment of a fee
and produced so-called documents and testimonies from those she had healed. Many of those people who submitted
to her claims died. Had they seen a doctor, many of them could have been saved. Therefore Shine is guilty of
unlawful killing and there have bee recent cases of this in the press where mediums like Shine have made these
claims and patients have died.
I am sure that she has 'healed' people with psychosomatic illness and such people are grateful to her. But wise
people and psychologists do this all the time.
I am told that all her books are nauseating self-promotion in which she constantly says how wonderful she is. It
is this Elgarian pride and pomposity that is hard to take, as are her claims. In the book of hers which I have read
she does not identify any of those she has healed, nor is there any neutral testimony to support anything that she
says. It is all self.
She talks of a patient with damaged knees who came to her, and then she puts doctors down by cruel crushing
remarks stating that they could not make a diagnosis. With a scalpel that appeared from nowhere she made a cut
in one of the knees. She writes, " The energy body opened and balls of energy were revealed."
What is she talking about ? What is an energy body? You won't find this expression in any dictionary as I write
this in 2008.
Energy is (1) the capacity for intense activity, vigour, (2) a vitality of action or expression or forcefulness. Body
refers to ( 1) the human form with flesh and blood, or ( 2) a mass of land or sea and (3) the main part of anything.
She uses more gobbledegook, pretentious and unintelligible language and talks about chakras which are vortices
of energy that draw in life-force. According to David Icke, we have seven chakras in our body. I cannot find the
word chakras in any top class dictionary. What is Shine talking about ? If she spoke in plain language, one might
understand her.
Vortices of energy. A vortex is (1) a whirling mass or motion, or ( 2) a situation in which people are drawn in
against their will.
What does she mean by life-force? That is not in the dictionary either.
One can understand how people turn away from her because they are frustrated and bamboozled at her unintelligible
language and linguistic nonsense. And, so far, I have only got through 38 pages of her book of 280 pages.
She says that we all have these chakras, hot spots, focal points of energy in our body. Most of us did not know
that. She explains that hot spots are a sign of congestion. Congestion means crowded to excess, clogged or
blocked. If I have that congestion how am I to find out where they are?
Like other mediums she says that unless you are psychic you cannot understand such things. There are words and
phrases are not in dictionaries not even modern ones. That only psychics can understand these words is a standard
cop out.
She emphasises that mind waves or telepathy, if that is what she means, is the ultimate energy that could change
the world. The remedy for the world's ills is only to be found in spiritualism. She ridicules without mercy, people
who question both her beliefs and motives to the point of sheer rudeness and people have complained that she
does not speak in plain language, and we have certainly seen this.
She writes about a pop concert in Hyde Park in 1991 which was held in the pouring rain but everybody had a
wonderful time and that this is an example of mind wave energy which can have great healing potential. But she
has previously explained mind wave energy as telepathy.
I cannot see how pop music has healing potential. It can produce enjoyment and, indeed, euphoria for those who
like this type of entertainment, and very great irritation for those who dislike it. Healing does not exist in pop music.
She makes claims about automatic writing which is when the author receives messages from the spirits and
writes them down at their dictation. It is spirit communication.
There are cases of people who claim that God has spoken to them and they have written down sayings by the help
of the spirits and often what they have written is blasphemy insulting God and issuing curses against Him.
Rosemary Brown believes that she has visitations from the great dead composers who dictate their new music to
her from beyond the grave and, therefore, what she writes is automatic writing. The composer Liszt dictated a
new piece to her and it was shown to the Liszt expert Humphrey Searle who dismissed it as a fraud. Rosemary
Brown says in her book that the dead composers can only dictate piano versions. They cannot dictate instrumental
details or orchestration.
But they could write for instruments and the orchestra when they were alive.
Betty Shine believes that Rosemary Brown is genuine and a respected medium.
This so-called world's greatest healer says that she communicates with wild animals and pets. She knows how
they think and what they think. She asserts it has all to do with mind waves. Animals have this energy too and
they can perform amazing telepathic feats. We must have more telepathic contact with them insists Betty Shine.
A close relative sought her advice. Shine told her all sorts of things about this relative's father and every single
statement was wrong and outrageously so.

She also said that a certain person was not physically dead and would not die for another twenty years. He was
dead and buried and an exhumation was carried out which proved this. Shine was a lair and a fraud.
Shine now introduces us to regression phenomenon. That expression does not appear in any dictionary either,
but she defines this as receiving information about our past lives. There is no evidence that any of us have had
past lives and no evidence of reincarnation. Some spiritualists believe that after death a soul is reborn in another
body and this cycle is a continuous one.
She writes, "Regression phenomenon comes to me through survival evidence and, second, in a more spectacular
way when an energy face manifests over a normal physical face".
Oh dear !
What is survival evidence ? Can someone translate this into common sense? What is an energy face?
It does not make any sense.
From regression phenomenon she goes on to talk about ghosts and how real they are, whereas normal people
regard them as hallucinations, the seeing of someone that is not there.
She states that the evidence of poltergeists is overwhelming. That is a lie. She asserts that many psychologists
and psychiatrists agree with her, but, in all the books on psychology and psychiatry I have, and that numbers over
one hundred, including modern writings, not one psychologist or psychiatrist say that they believe in ghosts or
poltergeists, but have sick patients who do
A poltergeist is a noisy and troublesome ghost who throws things around.
One could continue listing Shine's beliefs and produce further evidence to show that she is misguided.
But it has to be remembered that spiritualism and mediumship is blatantly anti-Christian as are the belief in past
lives and reincarnation, ghosts and poltergeists. Spiritualism is out to attack and discredit Christianity and yet it
offers absolutely no evidence, but only offers the explanation that only psychics can understand and believe
these matters. All thee healings supposedly performed by Shine using her psychic surgery have no names of the
patients so that we can pursue our enquiries with them. Therefore we have no collaborating evidence.
We do have evidence of many of her frauds!
However, one of her patients was David Icke who lived yards from me on the Isle of Wight. I observed him
regularly and heard his sayings over many years. He persistently said that he was Jesus Christ, the Son of God,
the Messiah. And yet on the introduction to his book Truth Vibrations it is said that he was guided by master
souls from other dimensions and has helped to balance the disturbed earth's energy system. He claims to answer
questions about God and Jesus. Wait a minute. He is, or was, Jesus. He alleges that he has all the answers to what
happens to us when we die and can explain crop circles. He is also able to tell us what steps we can take to reduce
the physical and emotional impact changes about to confront our planet. His message is vital to every man,
woman and child in the world.
Is it?
David Icke asserts that Jesus believed in and taught reincarnation. That is utter rubbish. Jesus taught that after
death we would have eternal life whether it be in heaven with God and Jesus Christ, or whether it was in hell
with the Devil. On death, the Christian would be forever with the Lord Jesus in heaven. Christians in heaven
would not come back to earth as a ghost, or as a spirit or be reborn in another body.
The God that metes out punishment and retribution does not exist. He states that God is neither male of female
but both. Does that mean that God is a hermaphrodite? Of course not. God is not a person but a Spirit. He does
not have a body since He is not a person. A person is someone with a human body, eyes, ears, legs, arms, a body,
blood and bones. A spirit does not have a body.
Even some in the Christian church are hopelessly wrong on the subjects of spirit and person. They say that the
Trinity is God as three persons but God the Father is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit is a spirit, the Eternal Word of God
became flesh, became a person, Jesus Christ and yet He was and is eternal as are the two other members of the
triune God.
Who is David Icke to teach us about God? Is he a theologian ? Has he studied the Bible, the Hebrew, Greek and
Aramaic languages? Has he read the secular contemporary literature written by non-believing Romans and non-
believing Jews evidencing the life, death and resurrection of Christ? Has he read the Roman records of the time
when the Romans wanted to kill all Christians so that all the eye witnesses to the miracles, death and resurrection
of Christ would be silenced forever ? Has Icke had a miraculous experience of Christ as millions have throughout
two thousand years ?
It is clear that Icke has been influenced by Betty Shine and yet before this encounter he was personable and
likeable man, a goalkeeper for Coventry City although not a very good one. He was charming as a television
presenter but then, after 1990, he went off the rails claiming to be Christ. He then became scruffy, wore purple
because the spirits told him to... but why?
In his book Truth Divided he complains about people on the Isle of Wight saying that everyone on the island has
a closed mind. The truth is that he was so grossly objectionable to people and caused so many people incalculable
trouble including driving someone to suicide so that he could not possibly stay.
I have seen some of the letters that Betty Shine wrote to people. In one letter she revealed that the dead father of
a friend of mine had shown her the tattoo on his right arm and spoken of his many years service in the Royal
Navy. That man was never in the Navy and did not have a tattoo on his arm.
In another letter Shine spoke of a dead eighteen year old sister and how this dead person had told her about her
travels to the Philippines in 1966. This dead person had never left her home city of Coventry and had spent all of
1966 in a hospital. In fact she was in the same hospital for 15 months.
One could quote endless proven cases like this, and I emphasize proven cases, which will only confirm that
Betty Shine was a charlatan, a mad and fraudulent woman. She made money out of people's gullibility.
As she was a mad or misguided person anyone who believes in her is also on the wrong road and a dangerous one
at that.
(See articles on
Icke
,
Atlantis
,
spiritual dimensions,
psychics ar
e pscychotic
etc)




zoomer wrote:
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Craig W wrote:
Welcome, zoomer. And thanks for an interesting post.

Don't be disheartened by the lack of responses - and do not take it as a reflection of the quality of your post.


Thanks for your kind welcome and advice

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A couple of thoughts about this forum from a relative newcomer:
- there are some good, and a few very good, posters on here (and some not so good and some "troublemakers", in my opinion)
- there is some good, and some very good info, posted on here (amid lots of less good info and some disinfo, in my opinion)
- use the forum search facility at the top of every page to look back at past discussions. You will very often find a topic has been debated before.
- don't expect all your posts to be responded to promptly (there are many active threads at any one time and people's time is finite)


OK, I see....again thanks for your good advice

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Regarding your post: it is very interesting. This is not a subject with which I am very familiar but I can see it's relevance to the question at hand (Icke and his "aliens").


Thankyou, and I respect you lots for diving in here

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To clarify for my own understanding, are you suggesting that various psychedelic funghi were used by early humanity and became known in occult lore as "fallen angels" (I note that some mushrooms are still called angels)? And that these "fallen angels" were later misinterpreted (accidnetally and/or deliberately) to mean "alien" type creatures?


Let me quote you the relevant passages from John Allegro's book, The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross:

"The "Rephaim", as their name can now be seen to mean, were those "cast down from heaven", the fallen angels of the sixth chapter of Genesis, and a common theme of Jewish mythology."--page 140

"Such very special kinds of vegetation were, then, "angels" and to know their names was to have power over them" --page 46 ibid

These sacred mushrooms, according to Allegro's deciphering of anceint words, and mythological motifs, were also referred to as 'giants'.

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You make a point about use of these drugs giving an impression of communicating with higher intelligences - a point which could be used to back up the "alien" hypothesis. Could you elaborate on that aspect? Does Allegro explain that phenomenon?


Well , many New Age people now have sometimes swapped the so-called 'channelling' with 'masters' and 'spirits' with 'aliens'. This is a common thing. Now we have to be very carefgul here---ie., of throwing baby out with bathwater.
For example, The Disclosure Project's Dr Steven Greer claims to have contacted ET beings. So does my criticizing New Age channellers claiming the same thing, or Illuminati putting it out they are hybrids with aliens, include's Greer's claims?
I think we have to LISTEN to what the channelers calim these contacts say! For example, if you are familiar with the so-called information from ushc influential channelers like Madame Blavatsky--founder of Theosophy, and Alice Bailey, whose a huge influence on New Agism, and really look at their stuff, it is racist, and dualistic.
We of COURSE know about the Illuminati who also are part of this New Age. We know their intentions don't we? Hiler and the Nazis also beived to be in contact with 'masters/superman', being influenced by Blavatsky, etc, and we know about them, right? So...............we must be very very careful how we look at all this. To look at it not only with reason, but being always aware of patterns, and our feelings about what's being shown.
Some of Dr Greer's claims regarding contact with other beings seems benevolent. But we must keep really on the ball is what I am saying!
by the way. Allegro doesn't meantion about Extraterrestrials in his book.
And I very recently listened to an interview with Alan Watt where he also voices that originally the Illuminati gave out the myth they were the 'fallen rebels'/angels, and how the Greeks even wrote down such stories, but when questioned about what he thought about David Icke's theories of reptilians said that this was a new thing coming from them. Although , in the interview he doesn't elaborate on this, here and elsewhere is implied that they are using this myth to create an awe about themselves as being more than human whilst we, to them are the 'lesser humans'. http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=alex+ansary+48


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I agree that the "lizards" thing has become a joke to many people and is used to mock and discredit anyone who expresses any of the many more plausible (and in my view very probably true) elements of Icke's work. I say this as a fan of his. I have learnt much from his work and he has a great gift for communication and getting to the heart of the matter. But I have always taken his more outlandish assertions with a large pinch of salt. And I share an earlier poster's unease at Icke's willingness to believe anything that fits his theories, regardless of the lack of any real evidence (citing anonymous or single internet sources as references , for example). That said, I still believe his work to be of significant value, as long as the reader retains a critical eye.


I am the same. previously, before I got a computer, I wrote him off because of these theories, but when I listened to the rest, he is very articulate. But believing in the other stuff does tend to undermine his judgement. Now I believe he has had an experience inspired with Ayahuasca.


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I am also interested in your reference to the debunking of Zecharia Sitchin's work. Though I am familiar with his thesis, I have never "believed" in it as it was so unverifiable and didn't seem to "mesh" with anything that i felt more certain about. I would be interested in any references/links you could supply which offer a critique.
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


Of course. This is
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important, because such Annunanki, and reptilian myths depend on Sitchin's so-called research. If his research can be proven to be really insubstantial then we can begin to dispell this myth, and explore other avenues which is what I am trying to do.
I want to dis-awe the Illuminati. I don't know if that word exists, but you know what I mean.. Very Happy They are just extremely extremely arrogant people, who feel themselves so superior that any humanity has gone long ago. I don't mean they are not human now, but when a person chooses to be superior, and will go to any lengths to get and keep control, they ARE dehumanized. NOT angel, or ET, but vile people with no feelings. Sure, they might feel they have for their own 'kind', like the mafia does for its kind..........Sitchin is Wrong http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DAVID ICKE
by Dr David C. F. Wright
2013.

Let me begin with the repetition of the final part of my article about Betty Shine in order to introduce David Icke who lived yards away from me on the Isle of Wight. I observed him and heard his sayings over many years. He persistently said that he was Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Messiah. He would walk into our Post Office and make this pronouncement. If I were to walk around this town and state that I was Henry VIII people would think I was mad or insane and is that what Icke s? Is he insane?(See article Psychics are Psychotic)And yet on the blurb to his book, Truth Vibrations, it is said that he was guided by master souls from other dimensions which has helped him balance the disturbed earth's energy system. In this book it is asserted that he has all the answers about God and Jesus. Wait a minute. He is, or was, Jesus. He claims that he has the answers to what happens to us when we die and can explain crop circles. He alleges that he is also able to tell us what steps we can take to reduce the physical and emotional impact changes about to confront our planet. His message is vital to every man, woman and child in the world. Is it? What are master souls? What is meant by another dimension? What is this other dimension? Does he mean another world?(See article Spiritual Dimensions)The word dimension means an aspect or factor, or the scope and size of something in a particular direction David Icke asserts that Jesus believed in and taught reincarnation. That is utter rubbish. Jesus taught that after death we would have eternal life whether it be in heaven with God and Jesus Christ, or whether it was in hell with the Devil. On death, the Christian would be forever with the Lord Jesus in heaven. Christians in heaven would not come back to earth as a ghost, or as a spirit or be reborn in another body. That is a very clear Biblical principle. Icke states that the God that metes about punishment and retribution does not exist. There was a time when the Jews were deeply distressed because of their years of disobedience to God and feared Divine punishment. They pleaded with Jesus to have Moses reappear and warn the Jewish nation of impending judgment, but Moses had been dead for 1500 years. Jesus said that people would not believe it if Moses were to come back from the dead simply because these things do not happen asit is not God's will. Icke states that God is neither male of female but both. Does that mean that God is a hermaphrodite? The idea is blasphemous. God is not a person but a spirit. A spirit does not have a body since He is not a person. A person is someone with a human body, eyes, ears, legs, arms, blood and bones. A spirit does not have a body. Even some in the Christian church are hopelessly wrong on the subjects of spirit and person. They say

that the Trinity is God as three persons but God the Father is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit is a spirit, the Eternal Word of God became flesh, became a person namely Jesus Christ, and yet He was and is eternal as are the two other members of the triune God. Who is David Icke to teach us about God? Is he a theologian? Has he studied the Bible, the Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic languages? Has he read the secular contemporary literature written by non-believing Romans and non-believing Jews evidencing the life, death and resurrection of Christ? Has he read the Roman records of the time where it is recorded that the Romans wanted to kill all Christians so that these murders would eliminate all the eye witnesses to the miracles, death and resurrection of Christ? Has Icke had a miraculous experience of Christ as millions have through two thousand years? That he states that Jesus taught and believed in reincarnation shows that he does not know what he is talking about and, if he is wrong on such a fundamental issue, which he is, he can be wrong on other things as well. To the spiritualist, reincarnation is when a soul after death is reborn in another body. It is clear that Icke has been influenced by Betty Shine and yet before this encounter he was a personable and likeable man, a goalkeeper for Coventry City although not a very good one. He was charming as a television presenter but then, after 1990, he went off the rails claiming to be Jesus Christ, the only Son of God. But most Psychics renounce the idea that Christ is the Son of God, so don't they renounce Icke? Icke then became scruffy, wore purple because the spirits told him to... but why? He looked a sight and was asked why he dressed like this. He replied, "The master souls in another dimension have told me to do so! "If I were to walk around dressed solely in bright yellow for a few years I would be deemed as insane. In his book Truth Divided he complains about people on the Isle of Wight saying that everyone on the island has a closed mind. The truth is that he was so grossly objectionable to people and caused somany people incalculable trouble including driving someone to suicide, that he could not possibly stay. He was a troublemaker and Islanders recognised that he was clearly a fraud and probably insane, mentally ill and clearly irresponsible. In a recent newsletter (April 2010) he says that all Islanders are either paedophiles, drug suppliers or takers, breed children to sacrifice, satanists and that the local police are the most corrupt in Britain and Ted Heath, who regularly visited the island was a satanist and child killer! How has Icke helped balance the disturbed earth's energy system? What is the earth's energy system? You won't find that phrase in any dictionary in 2008 either! I understand that people who are into spiritualism claim that they understand what these words mean, but those who are not into spiritualism cannot be expected to understand this jargon. If these spiritualist books had a glossary at the back explaining what these words and phrases meant and explained them in simple terms that would help. The fact that such glossaries do not insist only adds to the frustration. There is obviously a clear intention to baffle and perplex. What is an energy system? A system is a method or set of methods for doing or organizing something, orderliness, how something has been arranged, the manner in which something is done, how a government works, a scheme or set of rules used to classify or explain and calculate, a network of communication, one’s physical or mental condition or an arrangement of electronic or mechanical devices. Which definition does Icke mean? Why doesn't he speak plainly? Is it because he wants to sound intelligent and clever? In his weekly newsletter available over the internet, and for a fee, he makes libellous statements about people. He attacks President Obama calling him a puppet and that he should not be in politics, that the
money he acquired for his presidential campaign was obtained by devious and dishonest means. Icke makes racist comments about Obama. I have heard Icke speak of his hatred for black people. He uses words that do not exist in our best dictionaries such as illuminati. You won't find that in any major respectable dictionary in 2008. Why does he invent words and expect the ordinary man in the street to know what he is talking about? He also uses a word obamatise, another word that does not exist. What does he mean? We could guess, but would we be right? Having known this man, I can tell you that he is racist and, because Obama is black, that may explain his libellous attacks on him. There are those who have said that David Icke has been accurate in his predictions about the British government and the corruption in the Labour Party but that is not a revelation but an obvious observation of things that were bound to happen. He explains that politics is a dirty game. He should know. He was in politics and was a spokesman for the Green party. He says that it was in politics that he began his spiritual journey. Then he read a book by Betty Shine which he described as honest, simple and totally credible. He immediately made arrangements to meet her. She helped relieve the pain of his arthritis which he had had since a boy. She said that one of his two cats had diarrhoea back at home and when he rang his wife this was true. Shine said that she had a visitation of a Chinese mandarin, Wang Yee Lee, who told her to pass a message on to Icke about earthquakes coming as a warning to the human race and that taking oil from the sea bed is destabilising the middle earth and that sea spirits will rise up and prevent men from taking oil out of the oceans. What is the middle earth? What are sea spirits? Betty Shine told him that one man, such as him, could change the world, that he would write five books in three years and that politics was not for him since he was too spiritual and, furthermore, that he would leave the Isle of Wight because the people there had closed minds and this move will takeaway fear from his daughter, Kerry.(see article on Betty Shine)I have already explained why he left the Isle of Wight and I should know. I was there. It was not only politics that he criticised. He criticised Jesus Christ and yet actually said that he was Jesus Christ for some time. I heard him say this as did many others as he walked around our town. As with many people, he was disillusioned with the Christian Church and had turned his back against Christianity and was seeking another set of doctrines to assimilate. The failures of the Church are many but that does not invalidate Christ or His teaching. David Icke writes, "It is clear that the traditional views of God and the ways of the universe are fundamentally flawed." Then he makes the incorrect statement that Jesus taught and believed in reincarnation. He dismisses the Old Testament law such as an eye for an eye not understanding that it is God who takes the eye for an eye since God says, "Vengeance is mine saith the Lord, I will repay”. It is amazing how people misquote the Bible in an argument showing that they do not understand the scriptures. Icke says that the God of the Bible does not punish wrong doers. Icke makes other ridiculous remarks such as the parable of the prodigal son is an example of the way the spirit leaves the Godhead, learns lessons and returns to the Godhead. That does not make any sense. How can the spirit of Godleave the Godhead. God is a spirit. Does Almighty God need to learn any lessons?

The Godhead is the Trinity, the Father, the Eternal Word who is Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit but clearly Icke does not know that. He talks about karma which he explains is the law stating that no one escapes the punishment of their actions. Who does the punishing? Icke says God does not, since He is not a God of retribution. The work karma is a Hindu/ Buddhist word which Icke does not understand. It means that a person’s actions which will affect his life in his reincarnation. Icke writes, "There is no sense of retribution in karma”. He talks about the Monophysites who rejected the Christian teaching on reincarnation but Icke does not know the teaching on this subject as we have seen. He makes another preposterous claim that Elijah was reincarnated as John the Baptist by misquoting Matthew 17. 11-13 where Jesus compared John the Baptist to Elijah, just as we might compare the style of a present day footballer with a famous footballer of the past. David Icke does not quote the other New Testament passage where the Lord Jesus asks His disciples, “Who do people say that I am?" The disciples replied, "Some say you are Elijah, Jeremiah or one of the prophets". That does not mean that one of these Old Testament worthies was reincarnated in the body of Christ. It means that the Jews were comparing Christ to the Old Testament prophets just as I might compare an early work by Beethoven with Mozart. Icke then takes on the guise of a medical doctor and pontificates about cot deaths and says that often the souls of cot death babies are spiritual teachers and these souls have to leave the body to teach adults lessons. What evidence does he have for this? An infant is an infant untrained and uneducated in the ways of life. Imagine this. A young couple has difficulty in starting a baby. After years of trying the woman becomes pregnant and has the nine months of carrying the child and it is born to the delight of the parents. Then, some time later, it dies in its cot. According to some spiritualists it had to die to release its soul to become a spiritual teacher for adults. The spirits needed its soul. That notion is cruel and insensitive and yet Icke in his book condemns insensitivity At some stage in his spiritual journey, that expression is also a misnomer, David Icke was told by the spirits to wear purple and that he had no control over this and yet he writes, "We have all been given the gift of free will and make all our own decisions”. The expression spiritual journey is misleading. Lexicographers, who are not Christian, point out that the origin of spiritual means the spirit of man seeking the belief in the God of the Bible and the truth about Jesus Christ in their quest for eternal salvation. But now, the word spiritual means a person’s religious or non-religious beliefs. Spiritualism does not advocate the quest for the true God as apriority in its beliefs. Icke is not on a spiritual journey. He is on a journey into spiritualism. His next chapter is Letters from the Gods in which he talks about the earth's energy system and how science does not believe it exists. He says that each planet is a pulse-point and sends its energy on to the next one and so on, as do stars.

What is he talking about? He then says that the energy referred toin the Bible is the psychic communications of the Holy Spirit, the Christ spirit or, most often, the Light. What Icke is saying is that Christ is a psychic. It is true that His acts are beyond both the normal and scientific experience, but to call Him a psychic along with spiritualists and mediums is outrageous. It suggests that He is on a parity with people like Helen Duncan, Doris Stokes and Betty Shine.

He then goes on to say that the world is changing and that the North will become the South and the East will become the West, the old ways are being reviled and he actually says that men will speak with forked tongues (one is tempted to ask, Are they Apaches?) and will seek only wealth and have no thought for the generations to come. There are many false prophets in the land (indeed, there are).David Icke has made a lot of money. His books and his lectures are condemning the old ways and he is clearly prejudicial. His attacks on people are vicious and in his scurrilous weekly newsletter he has nothing good to say about anyone. As to all his pronouncements, you make up your own mind. Now we enter another realm of the absurd. God is everything says Icke. God is that mountain, thattable, that grain of sand, every leaf on every tree, every raindrop and snowflake and to take this hypothesis to its conclusion, God is every piece of toilet paper. That is blasphemous. God is good but God can be evil assert spiritualists. There is no such place as hell as God is love (and yet He can perform evil) and in the eternal life, the life after life, will have as occupants such as Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and the rest. Heaven cannot be heaven if such villains are there. "Ah," say the spiritualists, “they are there but on a different level and at a different dimension”. The Bible states those that will not enter heaven includes sorcerers which is the New Testament wordfor spiritualists, mediums and those who conjure up spirits and are involved in witchcraft. But spiritualists say that there is no Heaven but the astral plane. When someone dies they do not die they pass into spirit. There are many who believe that their astral body leaves the physical body which looks down on their dead physical body and they see a tunnel and a light at the end of the tunnel which spirits welcome them to enter. There is no such thing as an astral body. Astral means of the stars or of the spirit. A spirit does not have a body. Astral means of the spirit ; body means of the physical. Astral body are two words which contradict each other. Consult your dictionary. It is as ridiculous as saying, That dress is entirely made of a beautiful red is a glorious shade of yellow. Why does David Icke and other spiritualists use words and phrases wrongly and which are so utterly wrong? But Icke says that in the womb we have two bodies, one we see and one that is etheric. I am looking at my dictionaries of 2008 and the word etheric does not appear in any of them. I assume that he has invented this word from the adjective ethereal which means extremely delicate or refined, or heavenly and spiritual. So what is formed in the womb for each child is the physical body and a second body which is heavenly and spiritual or does he mean refined and delicate? Where does he get these notions from? This master souls from another dimension? What is clear is that what he says is not factual. As with Betty Shine his books are all nauseating, narcissistic and self-promoting. He speaks of his going around the country clearing energy-blockages, charging up energy centres and learning about the mineral kingdom. I did not know that minerals had appointed a king. The ordinary man in the street and those of us who have had a good education cannot understand what he is talking about, but Icke uses the cop out explanation... only psychics can understand these words, these phrases and other things. He talks about the psychic power in stones and rocks and their healing potential but does not identify anyone who has been helped in this way or submit any other testimony or evidence to confirm any such healing. Spiritualism is blatantly anti-Christian and the Bible states that the world is being deceived by spiritualism and that all spiritualists will be judged, condemned and eternally punished by God.

David Icke believes and claims as true that the human race was not created by God or by the process of evolution, which insists that all human life began with an amoeba in the sea. Some spiritualists claim that all human life was planted on the earth by aliens from outer space. Icke say that he, his wife and children originated from the planet Oreal which exists in another solar system and that this family were around at the time of the city of Atlantis which had aliens as their High Priests who kept the energy force and initiated others into the secrets of life. The Atlanteans could manifest and de manifest things and move things by levitation. As in the television programme Star Trek, when the astronauts could be beamed up and transported in seconds to planets millions of miles away, Icke says that the aliens of Atlantis probably had this power. (See article on Atlantis) Some spiritualists wants us to believe all of this and yet can offer not one shred of proof, and yet they demean Christians who believe four basic facts namely (1) the God of the Bible, (2) the Eternal Word of God who became flesh as Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, (3) His life, miracles, death and resurrection all of which has secular contemporary evidence in addition to Biblical accounts, and(4) salvation through faith in Christ which will result in eternal uninterrupted life in Heaven. Icke uses more words and expressions not in dictionaries because they are invented words and expressions such as the Luciferian Consciousness and the Attaro Consciousness. He talks about the freeze vibration, another ridiculous phrase which is a further example of linguistic nonsense. But there is absolutely no evidence of any of this. At one time when claiming to be Jesus Christ, Icke then says that there was a time when he was with Christ and Icke perpetrates the myth that Jesus was married and had at least three children by at least two women one of whom was Mary Magdalene. He goes on to say that Joseph of Arimathea was the father of Jesus and that the Garden of Gethsemane belonged to him as did the site of the crucifixion. Icke, obviously, has not referred to the contemporary Roman records, does not know his history or the facts. He says that Jesus did not die but was offered a drug while He was on the Cross which made Him appear to be dead. Icke insists that the Virgin birth is a lie and that Jesus was born as is every other child. It is one thing to challenge the Bible but he is also contradicting proven facts in the secular evidence of the time and the evidence of hundreds of eye witness. The Romans made certain that Jesus was dead, supervised His burial and sealed the tomb. This is in the secular Roman records of the time and this was why the Romans wanted to put all Christians to death so that all the eye witnesses to His miracles, death and resurrection would be dead and unable to give evidence. I suppose Icke will say that all these lies were revealed to him by the sprits of the dead. The traditional churches will crumble says Icke and he may be right but it does not invalidate the truth of the Bible or the veracity of Christianity. It is clear that psychics like Icke want to destroy Christianity and set up their own doctrines and want to rule the world or, at least, people's minds. According to some spiritualists we are expected to believe that aliens are responsible for life on Earth and aliens are still in charge of life here and visit us to see how we are getting on. Spiritualists can heal where doctors fail, they can communicate with the dead, they preach reincarnation asserting that Jesus taught this, which He did not, there is no heaven but an astral plan and when a single child is conceived it has two bodies in the womb, aliens formed the city of Atlantis which, it is said, was destroyed 8, 500 years before the time of Moses, that Jesus is not the Son of God and was not born of a Virgin, that only spiritualists can save the world, that planets talk to each other by energy communication and so on.

Icke is calling Jesus a fraud and the Bible complete falsehood. Therefore he is guilty of what the New Testament calls the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit which is the sin for which there is no forgiveness. This sin is the denial that Jesus Christ is Divine and the only begotten Son of God. Spiritualism is all speculation and fiction but, tragically, some people believe it and many such adherents have two goals in mine, the dismantling of Christianity and their self promotion which could lead to their making a lot of money. Many spiritualists have made a fortune and it is interesting to note what spiritualists do not tell you. For example, why did the Ickes divorce? There is a wonderful actress, Shirley MacLaine, who fought for feminist rights and was into spiritualism and made outrageous statements such as, for example, that spirits or aliens drive her car and take her to functions. She has made the point that most mediums are women and that has always be the case. Women have all the answers! It is feminists and spiritualists who state that love, care and sensitivity is the product of the female brain and that if men are caring, loving and sensitive it is because they have a feminine side. Consider my article on this subject which supplies medical evidence. David Icke and people like Betty Shine are against Christianity and one day God will judge them. The enemies of Christ shall perish. The New Testament states many times that sorcerers (spiritualists, mediums and those that call up spirits and those who practise witchcraft) will be judged as evil doers and not have eternal life but, with hell, will be cast in to the lake of fire that burns forever. But let us put aside the Biblical teaching, since, without it, there is irrefutable evidence to prove that spiritualism and its cousins is nonsense. The point of this article is not to preach the Bible but to tell the truth, to highlight the errors and dangers of spiritualism, of which there are many, to reveal spiritualists beliefs for which there is absolutely no proof at all, to show how they use words and expressions wrongly, how they are frauds, self-promoting in a money making business, how they give false information and false hope to the bereaved and how they are irresponsible. This is not meant to be a personal attack on anyone but an attack on their beliefs with the hope that these people will abandon this dangerous nonsense and find the right road. Brenda committed suicide because of Icke's teaching. Mavis died young because Icke was constantly telling her that her mother was speaking to her from the grave. Her mother was not even dead. Mavis ended her days in a secure mental institution and a padded cell. I want to repeat the ridiculous claims of his newsletter of 18 April 2010, in which he rants about the Isle of Wight and all who live there; he states that the Isle of Wight Police are the most corrupt in Britain, the Island is ruled by Freemasons and Islanders are leaders in money laundering and drug smuggling claiming that 50 millions pounds of drugs go through the Island every year, that the Island is full of paedophiles, satanists and people who bred children to offer them up as sacrifices. He goes on to say that the former Prime Minister, Ted Heath, who regularly visited the Island, was a child killer and a Satanist. When asked to supply any evidence of these outrageous tales he refused, which says a lot about him. A Satanist is someone who worships the devil but not necessarily in a religious sense. A Satanist is anyone who is against the God of the Bible and members of the Divine Trinity. A Satanist is someone who is wicked and corrupt and does this not refer to Icke himself? David Icke is now stating that the moon is hollow.
Sadly, David Icke is back on the Isle of Wight. He says that the Antichrist in the book of Revelation is a reptile. He obviously does not know what heis talking about and has not studied this matter and he is not a theologian. The Antichrist is someonethat is opposed to Christ and Icke is to some extent. However, he should read the authoritative workson the Antichrist and eschatology by such experts as Dr F A Tatford or Walter Scott available fromgood Christian bookshops.He has divorced his second wife Pamela because of her fidelity to the human species. I believe this is on his website. He has said that the opening ceremony of the 2012 Olympic Games was a satanic rite and ruled over by lizards or other reptiles since we are all descendants of reptiles from the constellation Draco and that the Queen and other notables are reptoids. He then asserts that we are all holograms ruled by reptiles. This is on his website. He insists that the Queen is fuelled by children’s blood and says that he has seen her drinking human blood. This is on his website. It is now said that his GP believes that Icke may be mentally ill. If I walked around the town dressed in the costumes of the 16th century and insisted that I was Henry VIII people would say that I was mad. Icke said he was Jesus Christ and walked around the town saying this some years ago and over a period of time. Does that not make him mad and, coupled with his other sayings, does this mean that he is insane? Einstein defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. In legal terms, insanity is showing that someone has lost the ability to distinguish right from wrong, fact from fantasy and truth from lies. It is a serious mental illness showing that the patient cannot distinguish fantasy from reality and usually cannot control his own affairs carefully or well due to his psychosis. Psychosis is a severe condition in which thoughts and feelings are so impaired that contact is lost with reality and truth and the patient suffers from delusions. A man believed he was being stalked by some London gangsters. He was convinced of this and would not accept any other explanation. He hired private detectives and paid them handsomely but there was absolutely no proof that confirmed his claim. But he was not being stalked. A girl lived alone but was convinced that someone was breaking into her house when she was out and stealing her knickers. A friend kept guard for her over a week and nothing untoward happened and yet,in that time, more of her underwear went missing and other items went missing as well and some items were put in different places. She blamed her loyal boyfriend of trying to drive her mad. In that particular week, he was on holiday abroad some three thousand miles away. This type of severe mental illness means that the patient holds on to something that they believe to be factual but which is not true and, furthermore, has no evidence or logic to support that view whereas there is evidence to show that what is tenaciously being held is false. Some patients regularly repeat a falsehood in an attempt to convince others and to acquire mastery. Some wake up each morning with irrational fears and have a persecution complex. Insane people are subject to impulsive behaviour and irrational claims. Icke is entitled to his opinions but they are not facts and much of what he says and believes is so absurd and unreal that its shows his mental condition. Does the Queen drink children’s blood regularly? Is the new woman in his life a
beautiful sexy reptile and that sex with her is so wonderful? Did Ted Heath kill children? Is Icke Jesus Christ or was he ever that? Is the moon and other planets hollow? Are we all reptiles and/or holograms? Is the moon a giant space craft? How is it that he alone can explain crop circles? Was the opening ceremony of the 2012 Olympic Games a satanic ritual? How could Icke have lived in Atlantis all those centuries ago? This man makes a lot of money out of his predictions and writings. Is this his purpose? I have been accused of victimising Icke and that what he does and says is nothing to do with me. Victimisation is to punish or discriminate UNFAIRLY abut someone. Facts and other truths cannot be unfair. We have a right to protect society and, at the least, warn people of danger of such people, some of whom may be so naïve as to be influenced by some madness and fraud. One remembers a girl who wanted to know that her late father was safe on the other side. Shine demanded a fee of £200 and wrote a full report about the deceased including his five years in the Philippines and other nonsense. The man never left the UK. Why do a minority believe in him and the Betty Shine’s of this world? Are they also mad or insane? Some people will always have an interest in the sensational and absurd. As for Icke, he needs help and that is the most important facet. Normal people will agree that he is, sadly, mentally ill.

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Icke, like other conspiracy researchers such as Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, and Acharya S, is an ardent critic of the Illuminati, but presents the myriad speculations of Theosophy as the truth being suppressed. All his main teachings are Theosophical, and therefore identical to those of the Illuminati, which is he is purportedly denouncing.


THEOSOPHICAL SOURCES OF DAVID ICKE’S REPTILIAN THEORY
Posted on06 June 2015.
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NOVANEWS
by David Livingstone

Although most recently popularized by David Icke, the notions of the connection of a worldwide conspiracy orchestrated by Reptilian beings, like the UFO mythos itself, has its origins in Theosophy, the occult tradition founded by H. P. Blavatsky, godmother of the New Age movement, and pre-eminent personality of the Occult Revival of the late nineteenth century.

Essentially, Icke, like other conspiracy researchers such as Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, and Acharya S, is an ardent critic of the Illuminati, but presents the myriad speculations of Theosophy as the truth being suppressed. All his main teachings are Theosophical, and therefore identical to those of the Illuminati, which is he is purportedly denouncing.

H. P. Blavatskyi

Alice Bailey

As revealed in another excellent documentary by Chris White, called David Icke Debunked, Icke claims to be imparted with insights from a spiritual entity named Rakorski, who he also identifies with the name St. Germain, a notorious charlatan who was a key occult figure of the late eighteenth century, and regarded as a spiritual master of Freemasonry.

Rakorski is none other than the “Master Rakoczi” of Alice Bailey, Blavatsky’s leading representative in the twentieth century, whose channeled information not only shaped much of the New Age, but guide many of the programs of the United Nations, which is seen to be the seat of World Government awaited with the coming of the Age of Aquarius. To Baily, Rakoczi is one of the “Ascended Masters” of Theosophy, the “Lord of Civilization,” whose task is the establishment of the new civilization of the Age of Aquarius. Icke calls Rakorski the Lord of All Creation, saying that he is “directly responsible for the changes the earth will undergo.”

The concept of making contact with extra-terrestrial beings begins with the Occult Revival, when it became popular to conduct séances to make contact with lost relatives or long-gone famous personalities. Blavatsky contributed to this trend by claiming to be in contact with a beings she called “Ascended Masters,” who resided in the mystical city of Shambhala of Buddhist legend, led by Sanat Kumara, as King of the World, which she identified with Lucifer and the Fallen Angels. Alice A. Bailey believed that Sanat Kumara came to Earth 18,500,000 years ago from the etheric plane of the planet Venus, accompanied by 30 “Lords of the Flame.”

Guy Ballard

Thus the spirit channeling of the Occult Revival became the “UFO” contact of the twentieth century, a mythos that continued to be closely tied with Theosophy. Christopher Partridge wrote that the works of Bailey and Theosophy in general all influenced the so-called “UFO religions.”[1] “UFO religions” are groups which deal with alleged communication between humans and extra-terrestrial beings, and include the Aetherius Society, Church of the SubGenius, Heaven’s Gate, Industrial Church of the New World Comforter, Raëlism and even the Nation of Islam.

Partridge writes that the first UFO religion was the “I AM” Activity, founded by Guy Ballard, in 1930. Almost all communication from his Ascended Masters though came “telepathically,” or by appearing to him from the etheric plane. During his first encounter he met the ascended master St. Germain in a cave underneath Mount Shasta, who showed him a television set that could receive transmissions from the planet Venus. An I AM offshoot was the Church Universal and Triumphant, established in 1958 in Montana and led by Mark Prophet and later by Elizabeth Clare Prophet, where St. Germain was also a central figure. The movement gained media attention in the late 1980s and early 1990s while preparing for potential nuclear disaster.

Mount Shasta

Mount Shasta is a volcanic peak in northern California, which has long been rumoured to be inhabited by faeires and Sasquatch figures, known for frequent UFO sightings, and which contributed to the legend of the Reptilians. It was first brought to attention in a novel, A Dweller on Two Planets (1894), in which Frederick Oliver related information he received telepathically from “Phylos the Tibetan.” Oliver’s account, which discussed a hidden citadel of Atlantean Masters within the mountain, became popular with occult and Theosophical communities in America.

Spencer Lewis

Spencer Lewis, founder of the Rosicrucian order AMORC (Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis), published Lemuria: The Lost Continent of the Pacific (1931), which claimed Shasta was riddled with caverns in which ancient Lemurian masters preserved their ancient wisdom. According to the ancient manuscripts allegedly in his possession, northern California was once part of Lemuria, a lost continent mentioned in the works of Blavatsky, where Shasta was among the highest mountains in the world, making it an ideal refuge for those seeking to escape the great Flood.

A similar account was also put forward by Maurice Doreal, also known as Claude Doggins—or Dr. Doreal as he preferred to be called. In Denver about 1930, Doreal founded the Brotherhood of the White Temple, the first major occult movement to refer to Shambhala, which to Doreal was an underground city. Doreal claimed that as he was lecturing in Los Angeles in 1931, the year after Ballard’s experiences, he met two Atlanteans who transported him to a gigantic cavern twelve miles beneath Shasta.[2]Fearful of nuclear attack, he relocated the Brotherhood to a rockbound valley west of Sedalia, Colorado, in the late 1940s and early 1950s.

Maurice Doreal

Doreal was also in part responsible for the dissemination of the theory that linked UFOs to Reptoids. In a pamphlet called Mysteries of the Gobi, Doreal offered a revisionist history of the world, which featured an ancient war between human beings and a “Serpent Race.” The latter, he wrote, had “bodies like man, but… heads… like a great snake and… bodies faintly scaled.” They also possessed hypnotic powers that allowed them to shapeshift into human form.[3]

Similar ideas appeared in a long poem, The Emerald Tablets, reputedly the work of “Thoth, an Atlantean Priest-King.” The work recalls a text by the same title prized by the Arab alchemists of the Middle Ages, who attributed it to an ancient Egyptian sage named Hermes Trismegistus, also identified with the god Thoth. Doreal claimed to have translated the work when he was given the tablets from the Great Pyramid of Egypt in 1925. In his accompanying commentary, Doreal adds a dire political warning about this Serpent Race: “gradually, they and the men who called them took over the control of the nations.”[4]

H. P. Lovecraft

These ideas, suggests Barkun, author of A Culture of Conspiracy, may have originated with an obscure pulp fiction author, Robert E. Howard (1906 – 1936). Howard is regarded as the father of the sword and sorcery subgenre and is probably best known for his character Conan the Barbarian. In 1929, Howard published a story in Weird Tales magazine called “The Shadow Kingdom” in which the evil power was the snake-men whose adversary Kull came from Atlantis. These creatures had bodies of men but the heads of serpents, and like Doreal’s Serpent Race, had the capacity to shapeshift into human form. In Howard’s story they were thought to have been destroyed, but returned by insinuating themselves into positions of power.

Howard became a member of “The Lovecraft Circle,” a group of writers all linked to H. P. Lovecraft, who consequently incorporated serpent men into his own work. Lovecraft (1890-1937) was an American author of weird fiction, is best known for his Cthulhu Mythos story cycle and the Necronomicon, a fictional grimoire of magical rites and forbidden lore. Stephen King called Lovecraft “the twentieth century’s greatest practitioner of the classic horror tale.”[5]

Lovecraft constantly refers to the “Great Old Ones,” a pantheon of ancient, powerful deities from outer space who once ruled the Earth and founded ancient civilizations and were worshipped as gods. Lovecraft summed up the significance in “The Call of Cthulhu,” wherein a young man discovers the shocking secret of a race of aliens that served as gods to a strange cult:

There had been aeons when other Things ruled on the earth, and They had had great cities. Remains of Them… were still be found as Cyclopean stones on islands in the Pacific. They all died vast epochs of time before men came, but there were arts which could revive Them when the stars had come round again to the right positions in the cycle of eternity. They had, indeed, come themselves from the stars, and brought Their images with Them.[6]

Although Lovecraft referred to Theosophical material as “nonsense,” he drew inspiration from the Book of Dzyan, which formed the basis of Blavatsky’s The Secret Doctrine, in developing the Cthulhu Mythos’ own account of pre-human or occult texts. Blavatsky claimed to have discovered the book, written in the language of Senzar in Tibet, where it was guarded by an Occult Brotherhood. Lovecraft declared that they “antedate the earth,” in The Diary of Alonzo Typer, in which he transformed Theosophy’s spirit Venusians into aliens who flew across the solar system in space ships to “civilize” planet Earth.

Lovecraft’s The Great Old Ones from the Cthulhu Mythos equate with The Great Old Ones of the Night Time, a phrase which occurs in rituals of the Golden Dawn. Crowley’s disciple Kenneth Grant, head of the Typhonian Ordo Templi Orientis, suggested in his book The Magical Revival (1972) that there was an unconscious connection between Lovecraft and the Golden Dawn’s most notorious member, Aleister Crowley.

Ernst Dickhoff’s Agharta

Also contributing to the Reptoid theory was the 1951 publication of Robert Ernst Dickhoff’sAgharta, the underground realm of occult legend, closely associated with Shambhala. Dickhoff styled himself the “Sungma Red Lama of the Dordjelutru Lamasery,” though his lamasery was located in his New York City bookshop. Dickhoff referred to The Emerald Tablets, but without mentioning their “translator” Doreal. Dickhoff claims to have studied in Asia, from a Buddhist Lama who told him that the King of the World came from Venus, and initially inhabited a serpentine or reptilian form, but has since transformed into a human one, and asserts that this being is the serpent of the Bible.

In addition, Dickhoff also wrote about humanoid serpent men who came from Venus, who exploited an pre-Flood tunnel system in order to infiltrate and capture Atlantis and Lemuria. Survivors of these sunken continents supposedly escaped to underground hideouts in Agartha and in the Antarctic Rainbow City. Although the serpent men were to have been defeated, they and their agents have infiltrated circles of political authority through their powers of “mind control.” The remaining reptilians lie in polar suspended animation, waiting for the moment to strike.[7]

Paul Bennewitz

The belief of reptilian aliens had begun to gain popularity in the 1990s, through the influence of Albuquerque physicist and businessman Paul Bennewitz, who was also involved in the infamous Majestic 12 (or MJ-12) documents hoax, and important contribution to the government “cover-up” myth. MJ-12 was the supposed code name of a secret committee of scientists and government officials formed in 1947 by an executive order of US President Harry S. Truman, purportedly to investigate the recovery of a UFO north of Roswell in 1947.

As revealed by Greg Bishop in Project Beta, the earliest mention of the term “MJ Twelve” surfaced in a US Air Force Teletype message from 1980. Known as the “Project Aquarius” Teletype, it was given to Paul Bennewitz in 1980, by US Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) counterintelligence officer Richard C. Doty. It was part of a disinformation campaign to discredit Bennewitz, who had photographed and recorded electronic data of what he believed to be UFO activity over and nearby Kirtland AFB, a sensitive nuclear facility. Bennewitz reported his findings to officials at Kirtland, including Doty. Later it was discovered the Aquarius document was phony and had been prepared by Doty.[8] As Greg Bishop writes:

Here, near the bottom of this wordy message in late 1980, was the very first time anyone had seen a reference to the idea of a suspected government group called ‘MJ Twelve’ that controlled UFO information. Of course, no one suspected at the time the colossal role that this idea would play in 1980s and ’90s UFOlogy, and it eventually spread beyond its confines to become a cultural mainstay.[9]

What came to be known as the “MJ-12 papers” first appeared on a roll of film in late 1984, in the mailbox of television documentary producer Jaime Shandera, who had been collaborating with Roswell researcher William Moore since 1982. Moore had also been contacted by Doty in 1980, who described himself as representing a shadowy group of 10 military intelligence insiders who claimed to be opposed to the UFO “cover-up.” In January 1981, Doty provided Moore with a copy of the phony Aquarius document with mention of MJ-12. Moore would later claim in 1989 that he began collaborating with AFOSI in spying on fellow researchers such as Bennewitz, and dispensing disinformation ostensibly to gain the trust of the military officers, but in reality to learn whatever truth he could glean about UFOs, and how the military manipulated UFO researchers.

Richard C. Doty

Moore claims that he tried to push Bennewitz, who had been in a mental health facility on three occasions after suffering severe delusional paranoia, into a mental breakdown by feeding him false information about aliens. Later it would turn out that some of the UFO documents given to Moore were forged by Doty and compatriots, or were retyped and altered from the originals.[10]

However, Bennewitz apparently became convinced he had located a secret alien facility that he called Dulce Base, after intercepting what he thought were electronic communications originating from alien spacecraft located outside of Albuquerque, New Mexico. According to his account, a treaty was brokered between the aliens and the US government, according to which the base was to be operated jointly by the aliens and the CIA. However, treaty violations on the part of the aliens led to open conflict. The aliens are of such power, however, that they cannot be removed.

By 1982, Bennewitz had begun to spread his ideas about the Dulce base to others in the ufology community. Bennewitz wroteProject Beta in 1988, which was mostly concerned with how the base might be successfully attacked. In 1988, William F. Hamilton III and Jason Bishop III both visited Dulce and wrote extensively about the base. Hamilton described the aliens as “small humanoid beings [that] may belong to the class we know as Reptilia rather than Mammalia.” Bishop called them “descendent [sic] from a Reptilian Humanoid Specie.”[11] Thomas Edwin Costello, who claimed he had been a security guard at Dulce, called the aliens at Dulce “reptilian humanoids.”

Dulce Base

As Barkun also noted, the area had already attracted the attention of people interested in the paranormal. The Colorado-New Mexico border region had emerged as one of the major sites for the cattle-mutilation stories then current in the West. Dulce is also only about 150 miles from the Baca ranch in the San Luis Valley of southern Colorado, owned by Maurice Strong, which is one of the areas of most intense paranormal activity in the US. Strong, who has been heralded as the “indispensable man” at the center of the U.N.’s global power, is also the Finance Director of the Lindisfarne Center. According to the authors ofDope Inc, Strong is also a top operative for British Intelligence and controls the Order of the Golden Dawn, which is now an international drug ring.[12]

The San Luis Valley and northern New Mexico also happen to be regions where there has been discovered a tradition of secret Jews, descended from Spanish Marranos, and still secretly Catholic.[13] This may suggest a Kabbalistic and perhaps Sabbatean origin of the paranormal phenomena.

Maurice Strong

The modern history of unexplained occurrences at Baca began in the 1950s when green fireballs were reportedly seen by thousands, and even before that were rashes of “UFOs” that sound like what the Natives called “spirit lights.” So frequent are such reports in the valley that a UFO “watchtower” was erected. “From the fall of 1966 through the spring of 1970 there were hundreds of unidentified flying object sightings and many of the first documented cases of unusual animal deaths ever reported,” notes Christopher Obrien, inThe Mysterious Valley, a website dedicated to a study of the strange occurrences and sightings in the region. According to Obrien, “During peak ‘UFO’ sighting waves in the late 1960s dozens of cars would literally ‘line the roads’ watching the amazing aerial displays of unknown lights as they cavorted around the sky above the Great Sand Dunes/Dry Lakes area.”[14]

A mystic had informed Strong and his wife Hanna that the ranch, which they call “the Baca,” “would become the center for a new planetary order which would evolve from the economic collapse and environmental catastrophes that would sweep the globe in the years to come.” The first groups to join the Strongs in setting up operations at the site were the Aspen Institute and the Lindisfarne Association. The Baca is replete with monasteries, and Ashram, Vedic temple, Native American shamans, Hindu temple, ziggurat, and subterranean Zen Buddhist center. Shirley MacLaine’s astrologer told her to move to the Baca. Another of Strong’s friends, Najeeb Halaby, a CFR member, former chairman of Pan American, and father of the Queen of Jordan, wife to Freemason King Hussein, has built an Islamic ziggurat at the Baca. Apparently, the Kissingers, the Rockefellers, the McNamaras, the Rothschilds also make their pilgrimage to the Baca.[15]

The Illuminati, to Icke, are descended from ETs, called the Babylonian Brotherhood, reptilian humanoid beings from the constellation Draco, who live in tunnels and caverns inside the earth. In his book on the reptilians, Children of the Matrix, Icke also made extensive use of Maurice Doreal’s translation of the so-called Emerald Tablets, where he presented dire political warnings about a Serpent Race. According to Icke, the tablets were found in a Mayan temple where they had been deposited by Egyptian priests. Their supposed author, Thoth, had written them thirty-six thousand years ago in an Atlantean colony in Egypt. Based on the influence of Zecharia Sitchin, Icke argues that the reptilians are the race of gods known as the Anunnaki in the Babylonian creation myth, Enuma Elish.

Icke and Swerdlow

One of the main sources for David Icke’s reptilian hypothesis is a woman who goes by the name of Arizona Wilder. But on her Facebook page, she apparently retracted anything she confessed to David Icke, claiming she was deliberately programed for the interview.[16] Another of David Icke’s sources for the reptilian theory is Stewart Swerdlow, who claims to have been a victim of a mind control operation at Montauk Point from the age of 14 in the early seventies, when he was one of the so-called “Montauk Boys.” He claims to have personally witnessed Lawrence Gardner, author of Bloodlines of the Holy Grail, and conservative pundit William F. Buckley, shapeshift info reptilian form during human sacrifice rituals.

Swerdlow also claims his great-uncle, Yakov Sverdlov, was the first president of the Soviet Union, and that his grandfather helped found the Communist Party in the United States in the 1930s. To ensure his loyalty to the US government, he says, he was “recruited” for specific government mind-control research, including 13 years at the Montauk Project, which was supposed to have enhanced his natural abilities.[17] Janet Diane Mourglia-Swerdlow, Swerdlow’s wife and partner in offering their psychic healing services, “sees and hears frequencies on all levels,” an ability she ascribes of her mix of American Indian and Celtic ancestry, as well as her lineage from Mary Magdalene, which extends back through to the Waldensian heretics.[18]

Icke is a classic example of the Aryan racism that typifies the channeled information of the occult. Icke teaches that Martians came to Earth and founded the Aryan race, which the reptilians used as a vehicle to overtake the planet, and that the Aryans who inhabited Atlantis were blond giants whose skin glowed white. As Atlantis was destroyed, our ultimate objective is to re-attain the powers we once had. According to Icke, we will enter the New Age by rediscovering our hidden psychological potential. Icke said, “Many of you will remember the Atlantean times, you will remember you communicated with, say, dolphins and whales, you understood these sentient creatures, you could levitate, you could manifest things, you could cause spontaneous combustion by not miraculous means at all.”[19]

Icke is gifted with an affable charm that is the key to his popularity, and gives every impression that he is sincere. According to Nicholas Goodrick-Clark, author of Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of Identity, “it is clear from Icke’s book that he is a transmitter of this information rather than its originator. …Who is then guiding Icke and his New Age following toward the beliefs of the millenarian-conspiracy cults?”[20] He remarks that recent investigations by Matthew Kalman and John Murray of Open Eye magazine suggest that far-right and neo-Nazi groups are exploiting Icke to penetrate the Green and New Age movements.

In his book The Robots’ Rebellion, Icke praised the popular New Age magazine Nexus, which has been exposed for its far-right links. Although formerly concerned primarily with Green issues and Third World causes, Nexus took up the subject of the U.S. Patriot movement under its new editor Duncan M. Roads. Roads visited Qaddafi in Libya in 1989, and is a close friend of the right-wing Qaddafi supporter and convert to Islam, Robert Pash. In the late 1970s, Pash was the Australian contact for the U.S.-based Aryan Nations and distributed material of the Ku Klux Klan.

As chairman of the Australian Peoples Congress, Pash is also closely involved with the Australian League of Rights, an ultra-right anti-Semitic organization. Among Pash’s other introductions to Libya is John Bennett, president of the Australian Civil Liberties Union, and an associate of Holocaust denier David Irving and Willis Carto. Bennet serves on the editorial committee of Carto’s Journal of Historical Review. Nexus’ British agent is also an admirer of David Irving and Holocaust denier.[21]

The London-based New Age magazine Rainbow Ark maintains an influential relationship with Icke, printing excerpts of his work and helping to organize his lectures and meetings. The magazine betrays a wide range of far-right links. In particular is Donald Martin, the anti-Semitic publisher of Bloomfield Books, who is the leader of the British League of Rights. Donald Martin represents the Australian League of Rights that Robert Pash is involved in. Martin has also run the ultra-right British Federation for European Freedom and the UK arm of the CIA-connected World Anti-Communist League (WACL).

Donald Martin has published in Spearhead, the magazine of John Tyndall, leader of the British National Party, who regards Martin as his ally in opposing immigration. Tyndall, an admirer of Sir Oswald Mosley, founder of the British Union of Fascists, was a former deputy to Colin Jordan of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement in the early 1960s, and corresponded with Savitri Devi, a leading figure in esoteric Hitlerism. In 2004, Tyndall joined in signing the New Orleans Protocol, written by David Duke, former Grand Wizard of the KKK.

The editor of Rainbow Ark has steered Icke toward meetings with militant US patriots, and recommended Bloomfield Books. The same editor has hinted at their manipulation of Icke, by suggesting Icke wasn’t “ready for this yet,” referring to a spoof document entitled Further Protocols, outlining plans of “secret Zionism” for the “Goyim.”

Ultimately, David Icke’s message like that of the New Age itself, spells consequences with fascist overtones, foreboding a new holocaust intended for the “fundamentalists” of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, who refuse to adapt their age-old faiths for the ecumenism of the New Age movement. According to New Age or occult interpretation, the Atlanteans were destroyed because of their transgressions. Likewise, despite their wishy-washy claims of universal brotherhood and tolerance, the New Age warns of a coming confrontation with all those who resist the transformation promised by the Age of Aquarius.

Betraying these same fascist tendencies, according to Alice Bailey, “…let us never forget that its the Life, its purpose and its directed intentional destiny that’s of importance; and also that when a form proves inadequate, or too diseased or too crippled for the expression of that purpose, it is—from the point of view of the Hierarchy—no disaster when that form has to go. Death is not a disaster to be feared; the work of the Destroyer is not really cruel or undesirable… Therefore, there is much destruction permitted by the Custodians of the Plan and much evil turned into good…”[22]

Similarly, according to David Icke:

I do not seek to hide the severity of this period of fundamental change. It will be tough for every one of us… Many will return to light levels (die) in the wake of the physical events and the quickening vibrations. The Earth Spirit is already rising up the subplanes, and through the years ahead she will progress through the whole frequencies in her journey back to Atlantis and beyond… Those who cannot quicken their own vibrations through love and balance will find themselves out of synchronization with the environment around them. This process is already apparent.[22]

[1] Christopher H. Partridge, UFO Religions. (Routledge, 2003), p. 8–9.

[2] Michael Barkun, A Culture of Conspiracy: Apocalyptic Visions in Contemporary America. (Berkeley, Calif: University of California Press, 2003 2003) p. 115.

[3] Ibid., p. 119.

[4] Barkun, A Culture of Conspiracy, p. 120.

[5] Curt Wohleber, “The Man Who Can Scare Stephen King,” American Heritage Magazine. (December 1995)

[6] Lovecraft, The Best of H.P. Lovecraft: Bloodcurdling Tales of orror and the Macabre, (Del Rey Books. New York, 1982), p. 88.

[7] Barkun, A Culture of Conspiracy, p. 121.

[8] Greg Bishop, Project Beta, 2005, Paraview/ Pocket Books (Simon & Schuster).

[9] Ibid., p 128.

[10] Jerome Clark, Unexplained!—347 strange sightings, incredible occurrences, and puzzling physical phenomena, (Visible Ink Press, 1993), pp. 400, 402-403.

[11] Barkun, A Culture of Conspiracy, p. 119.

[12] Kalimtgis, Goldman & Steinberg, Dope Inc.: Britain’s Opium War Against the U.S, p. 25.

[13] Jeff Wheelwright, “The ‘Secret Jews’ of San Luis Valley” Smithsonian magazine (October, 2008).

[14] Christopher O’Brien, “The Mysterious Valley,” <http://tmv.us/>

[15] “Who is Maurice Strong.” from Donald McAlvany’s Toward a New World Order. <http://home.sprynet.com/~eastwood01/mstrong2.htm>

[16] Facebook page [http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=224762537612189&id=1 131…

[17] Stewart Swerdlow’s personal website, Expansions [http://www.expansions.com/about/]

[18] Ibid.

[19] Transcript, David Icke Debunked [http://davidickedebunked.com/?page_id=13]

[20] Goodrick-Clarke. Black Sun, p. 292.

[21] Ibid.

[22] Chris White, David Icke Debunked, http://davidickedebunked.com/?page_id=13

[23] Ibid.,

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David Icke Debunked
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David Icke Debunked
This is 2.5 hour film from Chris White takes a very close look at
David Icke’s history and beliefs. It reveals the true sources of David
Icke’s theories which are often shocking , and should be very
concerning for a genuine seeker of truth. This is a well rounded
expose which is done respectfully, while still attempting to get the
average truther to reevaluate what they really know about the
“endgame” of the Illuminati.



A few of the things covered are:

His connections to Alice Bailey
His channeling several of Bailey’s specific “Ascended Masters” and
them being his lifelong guides.
The “Solar Logos” and “Galactic Logos”
The Seven Ray theory
The source of his galaxy-god to sun-god spiritual evolution is Bailey
The ghost of Carl Sagan
He supports “elite” worship of the sun
His new moon theory is retelling of his earlier crazy version
His moon theory is from Alice Bailey
The “Earth Spirit” or Gaia is from Alice Bailey
His support of Earth Spirit led Genocide
Atlantis and Lemuria
Hitler similarities include, Atlantis, spiritual evolution, arayans,
– Show quoted text –
the moon, hollow earth, Lemuria, contacting ascended masters, taking
drugs to increase the connection, and more.
Icke denounces Bailey and Lucius trust..and implications for him

Chapter 2
Brian Desborough, who is this guy?
Desborough’s crazy unbelievable story
Desborough is the source for a huge amount of material including the reptilians
Desborough introduces Arizona Wilder to Icke
Arizona “made to learn”
Ivan Fraser connection
Desborough writes “Alice in Wonderland”
Arizona’s “Old Ones” are really behind the NWO
Credo Mutwa
Reptilians on Youtube
Shapshifting according to Svali
Desborough’s new Jesus
Babylon supplied by Desborough
Debunking Babylon
David talks to “Jesus”
David has very conflicting views about the crucifixion
Davids claim to be “The Son of God” (actually his claim was that he IS
the second coming of Christ)
Debunking the Zeitgeist version of Jesus
Quick History
Queen of Heaven
Mother and child statues, Jesus and Mary
Halos
Dagon fish hat (pope)
Michael Talbot
The Holographic Universe
Holonomic Brain Theory
Sai Baba
stigmata
The hypnotist that made the man see through his daughter.

Chapter 3
“The Guys.”
What it is
How he does it
Terrence Mckenna’s advice
Same thing with the 2012 history
Photon Belt
Demons in anthropology
Sumer
Free will
Inspecting David’s testimony for clues
David preaches free will possession
Sleep Paralysis
David loses it in front of a painting
David’s infamous trip to Peru
History of that area of Peru
Ley Lines
Brazil with Ayahuasca
DMT the spirit molecule
The big question about the elves?
We are sitting ducks for the NWO
The REAL plan of the Illuminati.
Spiritual evolution
Promised utopia
ONLY out of the ashes
“Preparations until 2025”
“ Emphasis should be laid on the evolution of humanity.” – Alice Bailey
A deadly utopia for those who wont “evolve”
The paradox solution = The X factor
Alien invasion? intervention?
Religion must die
Saved from the war
The actual plan.

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WoW!

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Icke, like other conspiracy researchers such as Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, and Acharya S, is an ardent critic of the Illuminati, but presents the myriad speculations of Theosophy as the truth being suppressed. All his main teachings are Theosophical, and therefore identical to those of the Illuminati, which is he is purportedly denouncing.

THEOSOPHICAL SOURCES OF DAVID ICKE’S REPTILIAN THEORY
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NOVANEWS
by David Livingstone

Although most recently popularized by David Icke, the notions of the connection of a worldwide conspiracy orchestrated by Reptilian beings, like the UFO mythos itself, has its origins in Theosophy, the occult tradition founded by H. P. Blavatsky, godmother of the New Age movement, and pre-eminent personality of the Occult Revival of the late nineteenth century.




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Age of Aquarius, Age of Genocide and Persecution Like None Other
By Trey Alderson-Cloutier on Monday, 1 August 2011 at 22:28
"Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake." -Matthew 24:9
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"yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service." -John 16:2b



"Countless people will hate the new world order and will die protesting against it" -H.G. Wells, The New World Order



This is a world revolution, a world revolution against the OLD world order.



It is important to note that the old world order is everything we are currently entrapped and enslaved in. It is important that the system creates absolute polar opposites to what we are currently used to, that way when the NEW world order comes, they can con as many people as they can into accepting this system. And I bet they will, the lack of understanding of how the world works to the average person nowadays is minimal, at best. For this to happen they must establish the challenges that humanity faces, which they have done, and most of them engineered by them. Remember, problem-reaction-solution right?



Many people do not like the problems that plague us in this world. Wars, famine, plagues, poverty, hatred towards your fellow man, greed, corruption, the list goes on and on. And what would people say the cause of these problems are? Most would say, Capitalism and Religion. Why is this important? We all know the NWO are the masters of propaganda. They control public opinion. So why so much hatred towards capitalism and religion? Because, they plan to destroy both. They plan to implement a one world socialist dictatorship, and a one world religion right behind the dictator. This has been the agenda for years, and is directly prophesied to happen in the scripture.



One of the initial things to happen, probably as a result of some global crisis, will be a one world government. Their aim will be to force everyone to accept a satanic mark on their right hand or forehead in order to buy or sell (Rev 13:16-17).



(taken from The Bible predicts two one world leaders or Antichrists who will rule the entire world (Rev 13, Dan 7:8, 11, 23). One will be the main leader, or the Beast, while the other, the False Prophet, will perform miracles and force the world to worship the Beast and his Image. The False Prophet, whose number is 666, will enforce the mark, which could be a tattoo or computer chip. Initially they will promise peace, and deceive many that they are good. They will reign for 7 Jewish (360 day) years, after they sign a treaty with many people. The day the agreement is signed will begin the 7 year tribulation (Dan 9:27). During that period, there will be tribulation on the earth worse then any ever before (Math 24:21). They will reign over 10 powers initially, and later they will gain more power and overthrow 3 of them (Dan 7:7, 8, 20, 24, Rev 13:1, Rev 17:13, 14). In the middle of the 7 year tribulation, 1260 days after the agreement is signed, the Beast will break the agreement, gain ultimate control and enter the temple he built, claiming to be God and blaspheming against God (Dan 9:27, 7:25, Rev13:5, Rev 11:2, 2Thes 2:3-9). At this time he will stop Jewish sacrifices in this temple he promised the Jews. There will be widespread genocide and persecution, especially of Christians and people who don't worship the Beast or his Image, which the False Prophet will cause to speak (Rev 13:15). The world leaders will deceive many, as the Beast is prophesied to be put to death and later regain life again (Rev 13:3, 12). The world leaders will form a more cruel dictatorship than any before them (Dan 7:7).http://www.truechristianity.com/prophecy/)



From my research, I have come to the conclusion that the ever so popular Internet film Zeitgeist is nothing more than NWO propaganda. I often times hear people after watching Zeitgeist, particularly the sequel, Zeitgeist Addendum go from being against a NWO to being for it, but only if it was headed by different people. The film mainly focuses on attacking religion, specifically Christianity, the monetary system and the capitalistic system as a whole. “A world government would be good, we need to integrate and work together to provide a more stable future for humanity or we might die off.” This is the ever so important mindset the powers that be want us to think. This concept of “Evolve or die” is being pushed on the masses through many New Age gurus. The major threats sprouting up that could threaten humanity’s very existence in the future. These threats are:

Global warming, energy saving (according to them)
Religious wars ending in nuclear holocaust, particularly in the middle east
Monetary system (they will lump it as “Capitalism”) and world economic system as a whole collapsing


What a coincidence these major concerns among people are specifically addressed in Zeitgeist and offered a viable, yet plausible, solution. The beginning part of the first movie attacks Religion, most notably Christianity, alleging that the story of Jesus of Nazareth was just another deity that has the same story and similarities from other “sun gods” throughout history. Some of these “sun gods” include Horus, Krishna, Attis, and Dionysus. There is a website, www.zeitgeistchallenge.com that offers $1000 USD to anybody who can prove all the claims in Joseph’s film are correct and accurate. Joseph boldly states these assertions with literally no sources, and many people have done active debunking concerning these claims. This claim is false, and if you do the research you will find these stories have more differences than similarities with the Jesus of Nazareth. Here are a few links you can visit to find out the Truth about this subject. The Youtube video I recommend watching is Zeitgeist Refuted Final Cut.



Zeitgeist Refuted, Final Cut http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hgX6w4U-2o
Analysis and Response to Zeitgeist, by Charlie Campbell http://www.alwaysbeready.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article &id=124&Itemid=107
Krisha Not Equal to Christ
http://www.blackapologetics.com/bamanswerantiquity.html

A Critique of the Christ Conspiracy, by Mike Licona
http://www.bethinking.org/bible-jesus/the-christ-conspiracy.pdf



Anybody who has been deceived into thinking Christianity has been borrowed from ancient pagan religions, watch

Jordan Maxwell (The Naked Truth) Debunked by Benjamin Stanhope
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That website above is EXCELLENT for many people who have questions on the Bible and supposed similarities of the ancient texts. This topic is very important as I believe the new world religion will be paganized Christianity teaching that Jesus was just the SUN of God for the Piscean Age and now we have to have another NEW world teacher (The Christ) for the coming Aquarian Age. It is important to note that for the most part all of the world’s religions are eagerly waiting for this new world teacher. The Buddhists are waiting for the fifth Buddha, the Hindus are waiting for the return of Krishna, the Jews are still waiting for their messiah, the Muslims are waiting for their Imam Mahdi to come and TEACH them a new form of Islam, and many New Agers know that the world needs a world teacher to teach the “Truth” as they would call it, which is the ancient mysteries and the New Age/Luciferian doctrine/philosophy.

When asked about the end times in Matthew chapter 24, Jesus responded 4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.



Later in the chapter he reiterates this point:

23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.



Luke chapter 21 verse 8, it is also important to note that many New Agers refer to themselves as “I AM”. God reserves this name specifically for himself in Exodus 3:14 by telling Moses “I AM THAT I AM” when asked who he is.

8And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I AM Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.



This is happening because many people look at Jesus as a representation of what we can become if we spiritually evolve ourselves. Take a look at Luke 2, 10-11

10And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

11For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.



Here it plainly says that Jesus is the messiah, the Christ, just as he was coming out of the womb. So this should tell you that he wasn’t a master of the mystery religions, or he wasn’t the greatest wizard that walked on earth, and he isn’t what we can become. He didn’t come to be a great teacher, although he was one. He didn’t come down to show us how we can achieve his “Christ Consciousness” like Oprah will tell you. He came down to die for our sins, so that we could receive forgiveness from an all-powerful holy God. We all need God’s forgiveness and mercy ladies and gentlemen, and we don’t realize how wicked we really are. Imagine God taking you and showing you every single act against somebody you’ve ever done and making you feel exactly how they felt. This is common in near-death experiences. Think about it this way, if somebody killed your child, and a judge said well you are clearly guilty. But because I am a LOVING judge, I’ll let you go with no punishment. That’s not very fair to the victim and the family/friends. No, a LOVING God would punish the perpetrator so that the family and friends receive justice for their kid being slaughtered.



Anyway, back to the scripture. The Bible foretells of the Antichrist(The beast) and the false prophet performing lying signs and miracles to deceive the whole world. It speaks of this many times.



2 Thessalonians 2:9 "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,"



Revelation 13:

{11} And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

{12}And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

{13}And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

{14}And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

{15}And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.



Revelation 19:

{19}And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

{20}And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.



Revelation 16:

{13}And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

{14}For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.



Notice the whole world above is doing miracles, and they are not from your "inner self"... They are not from the "collective consciousness", they are from devils.



Matthew 24:24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."



Even the very elect might be deceived, that shows you how strong this deception really is.



Deuteronomy 18:9-13 says regarding a variety of subjects dealing with magic and sorcery,

“9When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.

{10}There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

{11}Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

{12}For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

{13}Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.”



Why does our Creator not want us doing this? Is it because he wants to keep us from contacting these ascended masters who are bringing us knowledge so that we can attain Godhood? No, these things are lying to you. This lie that you can be God can be traced back to the original sin. What was the original sin? Adam and Eve eating from the tree of knowledge, which God clearly told them not to eat from, as they will surely die. How did the serpent deceive Eve into eating from the tree of knowledge? Genesis 3:4-5 says, “ 4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”



The New Age lie is just the original lie repackaged. It is Satan’s carrot he puts in front of the masses to deceive them into accepting this philosophy that we are all God. It’s the original lie, but it’s such a good lie, because he can deceive people through supernatural experiences to make them think they have an inner power inside them. There was an experiment done in Because we are living in such turbulent times, if people are promised Godhood and don’t receive because our “collective consciousness” is not in complete unity, there will be an attempt to eradicate the non-believers or those who are unwilling to participate in the ritual, thus leading to a genocide and persecution on a level this world has never before seen.

To a Christian, the Masonic equation of God with humanity recalls the lie of the Serpent in the Garden of Eden, when the Serpent told Adam and Eve, "Ye shall be as gods" (Gen. 3:5). As we know, humanity again attempted to become like God at Babylon after the Great Flood, whence Mystery Babylon was born. Freemasonry has adopted the belief of Mystery Babylon that God and man are the same.



So let’s separate Christianity from all other religions

Christianity is does not teach works based salvation
Christianity says their messiah has already come
Christianity exalts God as a holy, separate entity that is made perfect in love, but is separated from us by sin
Christianity makes it very clear that you are in no way, shape or form a God and that all the power comes from Jesus Christ, and in this function separates Christianity from the New Age as being the one and only religion that teaches this. Even muslims are very New Agey, believing in the pagan moon God Allah and even their kabba is on a major ley line, which is another common belief in the new age.


After we have clearly separated Christianity as being an allegory for the New Age, the individual is left with 2 possibilities. That the God of the Bible is the loving God as the Bible portrays that wants the best for humanity, that our heaven is after we die, and that his laws are designed to instill maximum freedom for us while we are here our short time on Earth. But the contrary is exactly what Theosophy teaches, that the God of the Bible is the enemy, and that he is trying to keep man from becoming Gods.. This is why Lucifer is coming to save us (with knowledge) from this evil oppressive force who kept Adam and Eve prisoner in the Garden of Eden. This is exactly what the Illuminati and the freemasons believe, that man can become God. Given the links to Theosophy and Freemasonry we have described earlier, you can come to a conclusion many high level freemasons are luciferians.



The theosophists themselves admit that they are going to indoctrinate the world into witchcraft and the one world religion of mystery babylon. Check this quote out by Alice Bailey, founder of the Lucis Trust publishing company and many would argue, the mother of the New Age movement behind Blavatsky,



"There is no question therefore that the work to be done in familiarizing the general public with the nature of the Mysteries is of paramount importance at this time. These mysteries will be restored to outer expression through the medium of the Church and the Masonic Fraternity… When the Great One comes with His disciples and initiates we shall have (after a period of intensive work on the physical plane beginning around the year 1940) the restoration of the Mysteries and their exoteric presentation, as a consequence of the first initiation. Why can this be so? Because the Christ, as you know, is the Hierophant of the first and second initiations and He will, if the preparatory work is faithfully and well done, administer the first initiation in the inner sanctuaries of those two bodies. Many faithful workers will, during His period of work on earth, take this first initiation, and some few will take the second. The race has now reached a point where many souls are on the Probationary Path and need but the heightening of their vibration (made possible by His Presence) to reach the portal of the Path itself." -Alice Bailey, Externalization of the Hierarchy p273



You see, there is simply no room for Christians in the New World Order. We will not adopt socialism, we will not adopt a New Age religion under Lucifer. We will not worship the beast and his image. We stand on the Word of God, the rock that Jesus told us we should build our house on at the end of Matthew 7. We Christians are "too judgemental" and "unaccepting of others beliefs" to fit into the New Age of Aquarius.




“The hierarchy is struggling hard with the so-called “forces of evil”, and the new group of world servers is the instrument… These forces of evil… the entrenched ancient ideals… which must now disappear if the New Age is to be ushered in as desired”

“The old established rhythms, inherent to the old forms of religion, of politics and of social order, must give place to newer ideals, to the synthetic understanding, and to the new order.” -Alice Bailey, founder of the New Age movement, Externalization of the Hierarchy



"We are now entering a period of fantastic change, and the happening of events are speeding up all the time. We have two challenges here in front of us... people [have to] get access to that information, and start to realize who they really are and the nature of life, then we can go into stage 2 which is the Incredible Consciousness shift that is going to happen (and is happening with many people already, but can happen for everybody if we open up to the knowledge of whats going on and to do that the edifies of suppression has to go{meaning religion, specifically Christianity}. What I see so often in the New Age movement, is that they're focusing on the second but they're in denial of the first. And the second is not going to happen for many people unless we remove the suppression." David Icke, Love Changes Everything



"Lavedi Lafferty and Bud Hollowell, two New Agers, started the discussion about how their religion sanctions the use of violence against the Christian community. They wrote the following in their book, entitled The Eternal Dance: 'This is a time of opportunity for those who will take it [[apparently] meaning the New Agers [the Initiates of the Mystery Religions, Socialists].] For others [apparently the Christians] if the earth is unsuitable for them [if they will not accept the New Age religion] they will go on to other worlds.'"



"Another New Age spokesman, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the 'guru' sought out by the rock 'n roll group known as the Beatles [and others], has been quoted as saying: "There has not been and there will not be a place for the unfit...The fit will lead, and if the unfit are not coming along [if they will not accept the New Age religion] there is no place for them.



"The concept that a new race of people will inhabit the world in the New Age millennium has been expressed by other believers in the religion. Ruth Montgomery, previously mentioned, has written about that change: 'Those who survive the shift will be a different type of people from those in physical form today, freed from strife and hatred, longing to be of service to the whole of mankind...the souls who helped to bring on the chaos of the present century [apparently the Christians and the Jews] will have passed into spirit to rethink their attitudes.'



"To show that the New Agers are talking about the physical death of the 'enemy', one must only search the writings of other New Agers. Another believer to write on the subject of the destruction of those who will not accept the new religion was Ruth Montgomery. [And] she has been quoted as saying in a transcribed interview carried by a magazine called Magical Blend: 'Millions will survive and millions won’t. Those who won’t will go into the spirit state because there is truly no death.'



And my personal favorite,

“Out of the full spectrum of human personality, one-fourth is electing to transcend…One-fourth is ready to so choose, given the example of one other…One-fourth is resistant to election. They are unattracted by life ever-evolving. One-fourth is destructive. They are born angry with God…They are defective seeds…There have always been defective seeds. In the past they were permitted to die a ‘natural death’…We, the elders, have been patiently waiting until the very last moment before the quantum transformation, to take action to cut out this corrupted and corrupting element in the body of humanity. It is like watching a cancer grow…Now, as we approach the quantum shift from creature-human to co-creative human—the human who is an inheritor of god-like powers—the destructive one-fourth must be eliminated from the social body. We have no choice, dearly beloveds. It is a case of the destruction of the whole planet, or the elimination of the ego-driven, godless one-fourth who, at this time of planetary birth, can, if allowed to live on to reproduce their defective disconnection, destroy forever the opportunity of Homo sapiens to become Homo universalis, heirs of God…Before this stage of power can be inherited by the God-centered members of the social body, the self-centered members must be destroyed…Fortunately you, dearly beloveds, are not responsible for this act. We are. We are in charge of God’s selection process for planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death. We come to bring death to those who are unable to know God…The riders of the pale horse are about to pass among you. Grim reapers, they will separate the wheat from the chaff. This is the most painful period in the history of humanity…” - Barbara Marx Hubbard, New Age Guru/Futurist/Socialist



Oprah and her new age guru, Eckhardt Tolle, has advocated "Evolve or die", basically saying that if the human race does not evolve into the new world order, we will die as a species. They cannot evolve with us Christians "holding them back".



Another thing that's important to note is science is now in agreement with the new age, particularly quantum physics. Even though we have just delved into this realm, many new agers take the position that because we, just by observing something are changing it, that means that we can physically change it in our realities through our huge field of "one consciousness". The way you tap into this altered consciousness field or "christ consciousness" is by getting yourself into an altered state of consciousness, the primary ways of doing this is through deep mind clearing meditation, drugs like DMT, mushrooms, acid, and marijuana will stimulate this effect. This is dangerous, God prohibits tapping into altered states because it is a doorway for demons to come through and influence you, not only that but talk with you and teach you things and make you speak out about things. There are NUMEROUS examples of people speaking with these beings and all the sudden they found out they weren't as "nice" as they thought they would be. Here is a quick example, Terence Mckenna, who was a huge DMT head and is pretty well known in the conspiracy movement for creating the program "Timewave Zero" which is based off the I CHING which predicts that Dec 21st, 2012 will be a huge day in human history. He had a personal experience with this "mushroom" he was talking to and he asked this thing how we can save the world. The thing responded "every person should be allowed to parent only once".....



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Then Mckenna, as nice sounding as he could say it, basically agrees with this "mushroom" and talks for like 8 minutes about this justifying a policy that the communists have tried to implement for centuries now, with the only possible way of enforcement being murder.



Timothy Leary claims to have been picked by Aleister Crowley. He claims to "carry on Aleister Crowley's work". Aleister Crowley was one of the most wicked men that ever lived on this planet, and a high level satanist. In his book "Magick: In Theory and Practice", he gives step by step instructions on how to sacrifice animals and humans inside a pentagram. In order to achieve the "highest spiritual working" he says, you have to sacrifice a small young boy, preferably of high intelligence. He had been talking with interdimensional entities his whole life and absolutely hated Christianity.





The more you investigate these interdimensional beings, the more you will realize they are not nice. They are promoting a new world order of lawlessness. The Bible calls the antichrist "the man of lawlessness".



Turn to Jesus, He wants you to be saved and receive forgiveness of sins. Your true Creator is calling you, turn to Him and He will release you from this enslavement of the world, and sin.

How do I get saved? Turn from your sin, receive Jesus as your personal Lord and savior. For more info visit, http://cuttingedge.org/salvation.html



I host a weekly podcast called "Escape the Beast" on the Mystery Babylon Rising Radio Network, if you'd like to listen to my previous shows, I upload them in high quality at www.escapethebeast.podomatic.com, or if you'd like to check out my website, it is www.escapethebeast.com



Thank you all,

-Trey Alderson-Cloutier



1 Peter 5:8 "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:"

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David Icke Debunked by Chris White

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Closet Theosophist Guru Icke Says 'Evolve...Or Die' Outside My Cult; David Icke Debunked Chris White

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Now where were we...?
This is a 15 minute extract from 'David Icke Exposed', or 'David Icke Debunked', by Chris White
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Age of Aquarius, Age of Genocide and Persecution Like None Other
By Trey Alderson-Cloutier on Monday, 1 August 2011 at 22:28
"Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake." -Matthew 24:9

"yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service." -John 16:2b

"Countless people will hate the new world order and will die protesting against it" -H.G. Wells, The New World Order

This is a world revolution, a world revolution against the OLD world order.

It is important to note that the old world order is everything we are currently entrapped and enslaved in. It is important that the system creates absolute polar opposites to what we are currently used to, that way when the NEW world order comes, they can con as many people as they can into accepting this system. And I bet they will, the lack of understanding of how the world works to the average person nowadays is minimal, at best. For this to happen they must establish the challenges that humanity faces, which they have done, and most of them engineered by them. Remember, problem-reaction-solution right?

Many people do not like the problems that plague us in this world. Wars, famine, plagues, poverty, hatred towards your fellow man, greed, corruption, the list goes on and on. And what would people say the cause of these problems are? Most would say, Capitalism and Religion. Why is this important? We all know the NWO are the masters of propaganda. They control public opinion. So why so much hatred towards capitalism and religion? Because, they plan to destroy both. They plan to implement a one world socialist dictatorship, and a one world religion right behind the dictator. This has been the agenda for years, and is directly prophesied to happen in the scripture.

One of the initial things to happen, probably as a result of some global crisis, will be a one world government. Their aim will be to force everyone to accept a satanic mark on their right hand or forehead in order to buy or sell (Rev 13:16-17).

From my research, I have come to the conclusion that the ever so popular Internet film Zeitgeist is nothing more than NWO propaganda. I often times hear people after watching Zeitgeist, particularly the sequel, Zeitgeist Addendum go from being against a NWO to being for it, but only if it was headed by different people. The film mainly focuses on attacking religion, specifically Christianity, the monetary system and the capitalistic system as a whole. “A world government would be good, we need to integrate and work together to provide a more stable future for humanity or we might die off.” This is the ever so important mindset the powers that be want us to think. This concept of “Evolve or die” is being pushed on the masses through many New Age gurus. The major threats sprouting up that could threaten humanity’s very existence in the future. These threats are:

Global warming, energy saving (according to them)
Religious wars ending in nuclear holocaust, particularly in the middle east
Monetary system (they will lump it as “Capitalism”) and world economic system as a whole collapsing

MANY OF ZECHARIAH SITCHIN’S CLAIMS ARE FALSE!! GO TO
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David Icke Exposed! Another Deep State Player Fooling (Almost) Everyone, Mass Arrest Update

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Did you think David Icke was one of the good guys? Waking up the people? Helping the people to become more "awaken?" Think again. In this video, you will find out the truth about David Icke, that he's another tool/pawn used by the Deep State to deceive the collective consciousness.

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