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Dr. Joseph Farrell – Martin Bormann and the rise of the post-war Fourth Reich – How did Martin Bormann survive the war and what was he up to afterwards? What is the truth regarding the nuclear weapons research of the axis powers? What is scalar weapons? Did Nazi scientists attain cold fusion in Argentina? To what extent did the extraterritorial Nazi state influence USA? Dr. Farrell returns to continue the uncovering of our recent history, which addresses many more mysteries regarding WW2, as an Antarctica revisit, how the Nazi remnants transformed into a Bormann Reich, the crucial year of 1947 (youtube interview)

As WWII ended, and Hitler handed power to Admiral Doenitz, German submarine U-234 was in mid-Atlantic en-route to Japan with 560Kg of Nazi enriched uranium along with infra-red fuses needed for a plutonium bomb: 1945, night of 12 May – German submarine U-234 commanded by Lt. Captain Johann Heinrich Fehler is transporting 560kg of precious Nazi enriched Uranium U235, encased in gold, from the Baltic to Japan. Onboard two Japanese naval officers Hideo Tomonaga and Lt. Genzo Shoji are killed or commit suicide shortly before the U-boat alters course and then surrenders to Destroyer USS Sutton (DE771) on 14 May. With a skeleton crew and shadowed by the Sutton, U-234 heads for the US naval base at Portsmouth, New Hampshire. Its deadly cargo, now destined for the Manhattan Project, is secretly offloaded on 18 May 1945.

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Discovery of radioactive metal points to 'success' of Nazi atomic bomb programme
Oranienburg was reportedly the location of Adolf Hitler’s secret uranium enrichment facility
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/radioactive-nazi-atom- bomb-bernd-th-lmann-germany-amateur-treasure-hunter-a7963521.html

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An amateur treasure hunter in Germany has stumbled upon what could be radioactive material from a secret research facility dating back to World War II.

64-year-old Bernd Thälmann was exploring the ground in Oranienburg, north-east Germany, with his metal detector when it gave an unusual ‘bleep’.

After bringing the mysterious object home, the pensioner alerted the authorities about his discovery of a shiny lump of metal.

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Police discovered the find was radioactive, leading to the evacuation of 15 residents from several houses by emergency services.

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Specialists in hazmat suits searched Mr Thälmann’s home and removed the suspicious object in a lead-lined container which was then placed inside a protective suitcase.

Mr Thälmann is now being investigated for being in possession of “unauthorised radioactive substances”, according to the Berlin Courier.

German authorities have revealed that the area of Oranienburg was the location of Adolf Hitler’s secret uranium enrichment facility.

The research centre was tasked with enriching uranium oxide imported from South America, to make weapons-grade plutonium. The ultimate aim was to create a Nazi atomic bomb.

According to police, Mr Thälmann was intent on retracing his steps to find more hard evidence of the mysterious Nazi-era site. The amateur archaeologist was proving uncooperative, according to authorities.

A police statement revealed that “the finder refuses to provide information on the exact location.” An investigation was launched, with the radioactive find part of a criminal investigation, according to AFP.

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Britain and the United States have long possessed information regarding the Nazi’s plans to make atomic bombs.

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The US National Archives released documents this year about the National Socialist Party developing nuclear weapons.

The log book from Hans Zinsser, a German test pilot read: “In early October 1944 I flew away 12-15km from a nuclear test station near Ludwigslust (South of Lübeck).

“A cloud shaped like a mushroom with turbulent, billowing sections (at about 7000 metres) stood, without any seeming connections over the spot where the explosion took place. Strong electrical disturbances and the impossibility to continue radio communication as by lighting turned up.”

There are claims that his testimony was corroborated by another pilot, while an Italian correspondent also saw the explosion, reporting the incident to Italian Fascist leader Benito Mussolini.

According to Berlin historian Rainer Karlsch in his book Hitler’s Bomb, German scientists carried out three nuclear weapons tests just before the end of the Second World War.

However, Mr Karlsch’s theory was discredited by Gerald Kirchner of Germany’s Federal Office for Radiation Protection. In a Der Spiegel report, Mr Kirchner says that soil sample readings at the detonation sites show “no indication of the explosion of an atomic bomb.”

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Author fuels row over Hitler's bomb
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· Germany 'came close to nuclear device in 1944'
· Last living witness saw Baltic test explosion
John Hooper in Rome
Fri 30 Sep 2005 09.53 BST First published on Fri 30 Sep 2005 09.53 BST

A book published in Italy today is set to reignite a smouldering controversy over how close the Nazis came to manufacturing a nuclear device in the closing stages of the second world war.
The 88 year-old author, Luigi Romersa, is the last known witness to what he and some historians believe was the experimental detonation of a rudimentary weapon on an island in the Baltic in 1944.

Hitler's nuclear programme has become a subject of intense dispute in recent months, particularly in Germany. An independent historian, Rainer Karlsch, met with a barrage of hostility when he published a study containing evidence that the Nazis had got much further than previously believed.

Mr Romersa, a supporter of Mr Karlsch's thesis, lives today in an elegant flat in the Parioli district of Rome. His study walls are covered with photographs from a career during which he interviewed many of the major figures of the 20th century, from Chiang Kai-shek to Lyndon Johnson. Though he suffers from some ill-health these days, he is still lucid and articulate.

He told the Guardian how, in September 1944, Italy's wartime dictator, Benito Mussolini, had summoned him to the town of Salo to entrust him with a special mission. Mussolini was then leader of the Nazi-installed government of northern Italy and Mr Romersa was a 27 year-old war correspondent for Corriere della Sera.

Mr Romersa said that when Mussolini had met Hitler earlier in the conflict, the Nazi dictator had alluded to Germany's development of weapons capable of reversing the course of the war. "Mussolini said to me: 'I want to know more about these weapons. I asked Hitler but he was unforthcoming'."

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Mussolini provided him with letters of introduction to both Josef Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda chief, and Hitler himself. After meeting both men in Germany, he was shown around the Nazis' top-secret weapons plant at Peenemünde and then, on the morning of October 12 1944, taken to what is now the holiday island of Rügen, just off the German coast, where he watched the detonation of what his hosts called a "disintegration bomb".

"They took me to a concrete bunker with an aperture of exceptionally thick glass. At a certain moment, the news came through that detonation was imminent," he said. "There was a slight tremor in the bunker; a sudden, blinding flash, and then a thick cloud of smoke. It took the shape of a column and then that of a big flower.

"The officials there told me we had to remain in the bunker for several hours because of the effects of the bomb. When we eventually left, they made us put on a sort of coat and trousers which seemed to me to be made of asbestos and we went to the scene of the explosion, which was about one and a half kilometres away.

"The effects were tragic. The trees around had been turned to carbon. No leaves. Nothing alive. There were some animals - sheep - in the area and they too had been burnt to cinders."

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On his return to Italy, Mr Romersa briefed Mussolini on his visit. In the 1950s, he published a fuller account of his experiences in the magazine Oggi. But, he said, "everyone said I was mad".

By then, it was universally accepted that Hitler's scientists had been years away from testing a nuclear device. Allied interrogators who questioned the German researchers concluded that there were vast gaps in their understanding of nuclear fission. In any case, the US had needed 125,000 people to develop the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, whereas Germany's programme involved no more than a few dozen physicists, led by the Nobel laureate Werner Heisenberg.

But documents published recently by Mr Karlsch and an American scholar, Mark Walker of Union College, Schenectady, have punctured this consensus. Russian archives have shown that one of the German scientists lodged a patent claim for a plutonium bomb as early as 1941 and, in June, the two historians published an article in the British monthly, Physics World, that included what they claimed was the first diagram of one of the bombs Hitler's scientists were trying to build - a device that exploited both fission and fusion.

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The true novelty of Mr Karlsch's research, though, is to have turned the spotlight off Heisenberg and onto a competing project run by one Kurt Diebner. A Nazi since 1939, Diebner had his own group at Gottow near Berlin. Mr Karlsch found evidence to show that, sponsored by Walther Gerlach of the Reich Research Council, this group abandoned its quest for an A-bomb to concentrate on a weapon made of conventional high explosives packed around a nuclear core. "It was a tactical battlefield weapon they probably wanted to use against the approaching Soviet armies," said Professor Walker.

Could Mr Romersa have seen the detonation of an early prototype? He is not the only person to have claimed to have witnessed similar explosions. Former East German archives have produced this account by Cläre Werner: on the evening of March 3 1945, she claimed, she was near the town of Ohrdruf when she saw a "big, slim column" rise into the air, "so bright that one could have read a newspaper".

Ohrdruf had a concentration camp, part of the Buchenwald complex. Heinz Wachsmut, who worked for a local excavating company, told officials that the day after Ms Werner claimed to have seen an explosion he was ordered to help the SS build wooden platforms for the cremation of the corpses of prisoners. He said their bodies were covered with horrific burns.

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After the war, the scientists engaged in the Nazi project were interned. Gerlach, whose research in other fields won him praise from the likes of Albert Einstein, returned to academic life and died a revered figure. Diebner eventually got a job in West Germany's defence ministry. Neither man ever alluded to their work on what would have been the world's first tactical nuclear weapon.

"Diebner and Gerlach said nothing about this," said Prof Walker. "They took it to their graves."

· Le armi segrete di Hitler, by Luigi Romersa, is published by Ugo Mursia Editore. €14

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Secret documents reveal Germans tested nuclear bomb in 1944 as doodlebugs pounded London
DOCUMENTS unearthed in an American archive suggest that Nazi Germany may have tested an operational nuclear bomb before the end of the Second World War.
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Recently declassified file APO 696 from the National Archives in Washington is a detailed survey of how far Third Reich scientists got in the development of an atomic bomb - something Hitler craved.

In the file, obtained by the daily newspaper Bild, the task of the academics who prepared the paper between 1944 and 1947 was the "investigations, research, developments and practical use of the German atomic bomb".

The report was prepared by countless American and British intelligence officers and also includes the testimony of four German experts - two chemical physicists, a chemist and a missile expert.

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Strong electrical disturbances and the impossibility to continue radio communication as by lighting turned up

Hans Zinsser log

It concurs that Hitler's scientists failed in the quest to achieve a breakthrough in nuclear technology - BUT that a documented test may have taken place of a rudimentary warhead in 1944.


The statement of the German test pilot Hans Zinsser in the file is considered evidence: the missile expert says he observed in 1944 a mushroom cloud in the sky during a test flight near Ludwigslust.

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His log submitted to the Allied investigators reads; "In early October 1944 I flew away 12-15 km from a nuclear test station near Ludwigslust (South of Lübeck).

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"A cloud shaped like a mushroom with turbulent, billowing sections(at about 7000 metres) stood, without any seeming connections over the spot where the explosion took place. Strong electrical disturbances and the impossibility to continue radio communication as by lighting turned up."

He estimated the cloud stretching for nine kilometres and described further "strange colourings" followed by a blast wave which translated into a "strong pull on the stick" - meaning his cockpit controls.

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The report concurs that Hitler's scientists failed to achieve a breakthrough in nuclear technology
An hour later a pilot in a different machine took off from Ludwigslust and observed the same phenomenon.

According to other archival documents, the Italian correspondent Luigi Romersa observed on the ground the same explosion. He had been sent by dictator Benito Mussolini to watch the test of a "new weapon" of the Germans. He was ordered to report his impressions back to Mussolini.

Hitler pursued the goal of nuclear technology

It is known that Hitler pursued the goal of nuclear technology and wanted his V-2 rockets to be able to carry them to destroy the UK.

The testimony of the four German scientists in the declassified American report mentions a top secret meeting held in Berlin in 1943 at which armaments minister and Hitler favourite Albert Speer was present for the discussion called a "nuclear summit."

In the end the report states that the Allies believe the Germans fell short of triggering the nuclear chain reaction necessary to trigger a nuclear blast - but none could come up with an explanation for what occurred in the skies over Ludwigslust in 1944.



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Indeed, the author and historian Leo St Clare Grondona, who led de-Nazification classes for German prisoners at Wilton Park after the war, went as far as to say: ‘Had it not been for the information obtained at these centres, it could have been London and not Hiroshima which was devastated by the first atomic bomb.’

By the end of 1939, it was clear that the Tower of London could no longer cope with the massive influx of captives and three further centres – Trent Park at Cockfosters in North London, Wilton Park near Brighton, and Latimer House in the Buckinghamshire countryside – were opened.

Operation Eavesdrop: How captured Nazi generals were held in stately homes and wined and dined at the Ritz to flatter their egos so they would spill Hitler's plans to hidden microphones
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Nazi generals were treated to the finest lifestyle so that they could be spied on
Microphones were hidden in everything from pot plants to the billiard table
One historian even said if it wasn't for these centres it could have been London devastated by the first atomic bomb
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In the elegant drawing room, the pink gin is being served.

Newspapers and magazines are scattered over the coffee tables, while on the sofas the guests smoke cigarettes with their drinks as they await the sumptuous dinner to come.

The year is 1943, and although Britain and her allies are deep into a protracted war with Germany, there are no signs of deprivation or rationing here.

Quite the reverse. With billiards, art classes, cigars and fine wines on tap, the guests – all of them male – appear to be revelling in the trappings of life in a classic English country house.

Captured German generals were wined and dined in luxury, as in this scene from the 1966 film Triple Cross starring Yul Brynner +6
Captured German generals were wined and dined in luxury, as in this scene from the 1966 film Triple Cross starring Yul Brynner

So much so that nobody witnessing this genteel scene could possibly guess the astonishing truth behind it: that these pampered guests are, in fact, high-ranking German prisoners of war responsible for countless deaths and atrocities – and that their luxurious surroundings are the setting for one of Britain’s most breathtakingly audacious and successful spying operations.

Only now, with the declassification of highly confidential documents and a raft of new research, can the details of one of wartime espionage’s best-kept secrets be fully revealed – along with the story of its brilliant spymaster, Thomas Kendrick, a charismatic ex-soldier whose character would not be out of place in a John le Carré novel.

Eighty years after this remarkable operation was first launched, I will describe how:

Kendrick arranged for captured German generals and field marshals to live a life of luxury in stately homes, while secretly recording all their private conversations.
Even the plant pots, billiard tables and light fittings were bugged in order to pick up nuggets of information that could help the British war effort.
More than 10,000 PoWs were eavesdropped on by teams of hundreds of ‘secret listeners’, many of them German emigres who had fled the Nazi regime.
German officers were flattered by their lavish treatment into revealing vital intelligence, boasting to each other about the stupidity of their British captors.
Kendrick ignored the orders of a furious Churchill to stop wining and dining prisoners at London’s most expensive restaurants.
Intelligence gathered by Kendrick and his staff led directly to raids which delayed the development of Germany’s long-range V1 and V2 flying bombs by months, allowing the D-Day landings to take place.

Cultured, quick-witted and a gifted pianist, Thomas Kendrick had already been a spy for 30 years as the Second World War was about to break out.

In 1938, he returned to London from a posting in Vienna to one of the biggest challenges of the conflict: as commander-in-chief of MI6’s brand new listening unit.

This ground-breaking and highly sophisticated operation, codenamed the M Room (M stood for ‘miked’), was a piece of early genius by British intelligence.

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MI6’s idea was that prisoners of war would be matched up into groups of two or three and placed in cells together, where their unguarded conversations would be recorded, translated and analysed by teams of ‘secret listeners’ via hidden microphones.

It was a strategy which was to yield spectacular results, and Kendrick was the perfect choice to lead it.

Married to a German citizen and a fluent speaker of the language himself, he bore no ill-will towards his wife’s compatriots and refused to allow torture or cruelty by his staff.

Above all, he was a pragmatist whose sole aim was to find clever ways, however unorthodox, to get his prisoners to spill the beans.

The day that German forces invaded Poland, on September 1, 1939, Kendrick opened his first clandestine unit within a special compound at the Tower of London.

The historic site that had witnessed the deaths of Royals and traitors was about to find a whole new role within British history.

The first prisoners arrived at the Tower on September 17, 1939, from an enemy U-boat sunk off the coast of North-West Ireland. Others quickly followed.

Within weeks, more than 100 captives were held there. Mission M Room had begun.

As prisoners were brought in, they were subjected to a phoney interview, designed to give them a low impression of their questioners and avert suspicion that their accommodation might be bugged.

Back in their rooms, they would then brag to their fellow captives about how little they had revealed to their British interrogators.

One, Freiherr von Reitzenstein, who was picked up in the North Sea on October 1, joked with his cellmate after a five-hour interrogation: ‘My God, what s**t we served them up!’

Of course, the pair had fooled no one, Kendrick later writing that he had found them ‘crude, and incapable of deceiving anybody’.

Apparently trivial scraps of conversation between prisoners began yielding vital information.

Already an intelligence jigsaw was being built about Germany’s bombing capacity, radio communications, technical advances and military losses.

On November 9 came the first of many references to Hitler’s ‘secret weapon’, although it was unclear what this might be.

An M Room report at the time read: ‘Hitler’s secret weapon is talked about a lot. They [PoWs] believe in it, but say there is no possibility of bacteriological warfare.’

These conversations would later play a key role as the hostilities unfolded.

By the end of 1939, it was clear that the Tower of London could no longer cope with the massive influx of captives and three further centres – Trent Park at Cockfosters in North London, Wilton Park near Brighton, and Latimer House in the Buckinghamshire countryside – were opened.

When the cost of making the sites operational – about £400,000 then, the equivalent of £2 million today – was challenged by the Cabinet, the combined heads of the intelligence services responded in a no-nonsense memorandum.

They argued that the M Room unit was ‘of the utmost operational importance, vital to the needs of the three fighting services and should accordingly be given the highest degree of priority in all its requirements; that the normal formalities regarding surveys, plans and tenders should be waived; and that any work required should be put in hand at once and completed by the earliest possible date, irrespective of cost’.

From the prisoners had by now come vital information on U-boats, mines and torpedoes, the impact of air raids and details of underwater refuelling for warships.

The intelligence was invaluable. Yet still prisoners continued to believe they had outsmarted their interrogators.

A bomber mechanic captured in February 1941 told his cellmate in a conversation recorded by the secret listeners: ‘He [the interrogation officer] asked what engine the Dornier Do 217 had.

I said I don’t know. As a matter of fact I do know that it has the Bramo double-row radial engine.’


With the middle years of the war came the big prizes for Kendrick: captured German generals and field marshals, with their superior knowledge of military strategy and close links to Hitler. It was time to move the operation up a gear.

The first general to arrive at Trent Park, in August 1942, was the university-educated Ludwig Cruwell, who had succeeded Rommel as commander of the Afrika Korps, followed in October by 51-year-old General Ritter von Thoma, commander of a Panzer tank division and a veteran of Dunkirk.

And so began one of British intelligence’s most cunning deceptions of the war.

The generals had expected to be held in a rudimentary prisoner- of-war camp with Nissen huts and barbed wire – exactly the kind of surroundings that would have encouraged them to give little away.

Instead, they found themselves living in considerable comfort at what they believed was the generous behest of King George VI, as befitted their status as military commanders – a move that played superbly into their sense of self-importance.

Cruwell, Von Thoma and a third senior general, Hans Cramer, were given bedrooms and adjoining sitting rooms, with separate accommodation for their batmen.

A spacious area at Trent Park was set aside for creative activities – for painting and drawing, playing cards, table tennis, billiards, chess and bridge.

As they relaxed – and began dropping their guard – the generals devoted their days to learning languages and studying other subjects, while for those of a musical disposition a string quartet and grand piano were available.

They painted watercolours, had their own portraits painted and were taken to restaurants in London – even to Kendrick’s own home in Surrey.

So enamoured were they of their arrangements that one officer wrote home to his wife to say that he would love his family to be there with him.

‘Our involuntary hosts are thoroughly gentlemanlike,’ he said.

Little did they realise that everything that could be bugged was – from the light fittings to the fireplaces, plant pots, behind the skirting boards, under the floorboards of the bedrooms and even the trees in the gardens.

When they leaned out of a window to speak in order to avoid being overheard, they had no idea that the windowsills, too, were bugged.

The hidden microphones were wired back to the M Room in the basement, where teams of secret listeners worked from the moment the generals woke until the time they went to sleep again.

To flatter them still further, the generals’ every need was met by a man they were told was their welfare officer, Lord Aberfeldy.

There was, in fact, no such person – the so-called aristocrat was one of Kendrick’s intelligence officers, Ian Thomson Monro, a highly talented amateur actor.

‘A delightfully outgoing and intelligent Scot, he was the prototype of the officer and gentleman and his contribution to the war was to act this out to the full,’ said a fellow intelligence officer.

‘He took his guests on walks and to restaurants, galleries and shops in London, disarming not a few with his snob appeal and his assumed title.’

As Lord Aberfeldy, Monro provided a sympathetic ear for the generals and made special shopping trips once a fortnight to buy extra items they requested such as shaving cream and chocolates.

He even arranged for a tailor from Savile Row to come out to Trent Park to provide new clothes for them.

Eventually an exasperated Churchill, hearing about the prisoners’ regular lunches at Simpson’s in the Strand, banned the ‘pampering of the generals’.

But the intelligence services knew that the treatment of the generals was reaping excellent results that could not be obtained in interrogation.

Kendrick relocated lunch with their ‘guests’ to the Ritz instead, and it appears Churchill never found out.

With the arrival towards the end of the war of one of the M Room’s most difficult visitors, General Hermann-Bernhard Ramcke, described as ‘an egotistical, conceited Nazi’, ‘a firm believer in Hitler’ and ‘cold and unco-operative’, Kendrick and his team had to dig deep into their reserves of ingenuity to force him to relax and talk.

Their solution was one of sheer brilliance. Heimwarth Jestin, an American intelligence officer who was a loyal member of Kendrick’s team, recalled: ‘We drafted an artificial press release supposedly from a German newspaper.

‘It announced an award to General Ramcke from Hitler himself – not merely the coveted Order of the Iron Cross, but the very highest level of the Order, the Knight’s Cross with diamonds.

‘The citation, which we invented, mentioned the general’s bravery in defence of Brest [on the French coast]. With this false release in hand and several bottles of cognac, I visited General Ramcke.

‘Saluting smartly, I informed Ramcke of the honour Hitler had bestowed upon him and suggested we celebrate the award.

‘I produced the cognac. Despite his obvious pleasure, he declined for a moment or two, but pride in his new distinction overcame his reticence and we proceeded to celebrate in great style.’

Before long, Ramcke was talking freely, his tongue loosened by the cognac.

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The Ritz Hotel in London (pictured) was where some of the captured Nazi generals were wined and dined

As he spoke, the secret listeners stood up in the M Room and cheered: he had inadvertently given away details of glider installations and troop information that he had steadfastly refused to divulge during interrogation.

Ramcke died in 1968, never knowing that his medal from the Fuhrer, which he wrote about in his memoirs, had been a fake.


In 1943 came an intelligence breakthrough of such profound significance that it without doubt changed the course of the war.

It began with comments made by a paratrooper at Latimer House, who told his cellmate: ‘I was very amused yesterday when they [the interrogation officers] showed me a drawing of the sloping ramp rocket projector.

'They know nothing about it, which is a relief to me.’

The conversation went on to reveal technical details about launch ramps – a reference to the ‘secret weapons’ which prisoners had first mentioned three years before.

Eleven days later, a bugged discussion between General von Thoma and Cruwell gave further clues to the listeners.

‘No progress whatsoever can have been made in this rocket business,’ said von Thoma.

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A radio for the American Office of Strategic Services (OSS), from the Second World War. It comes with a civilian suitcase for a secret agent

‘I saw it once. The major was full of hope. He said, “Wait until next year, then the fun will start. There’s no limit to the range.” ’

The two generals had unwittingly provided, arguably, one of the most important pieces of intelligence thus far.

Earlier in the war, the British military had suspected that a site at Peenemunde, on Germany’s Baltic coast, might somehow have been involved in the production of weapons, but reconnaissance missions had failed to identify anything unusual about it.

Von Thoma’s evidence, however, was deemed to be reliable because it appeared to be an eyewitness account.

On May 26, 1943, the secret listeners overheard yet another discussion between two different officers about the V2 rocket, the world’s first long-range ballistic missile.

Captain Thomas Kendrick and wife leaving a plane at Croydon airport. Captain Thomas Kendrick, former Chief British Passport Control Officer in Vienna, was arrested by the Gestapo +6
Captain Thomas Kendrick and wife leaving a plane at Croydon airport. Captain Thomas Kendrick, former Chief British Passport Control Officer in Vienna, was arrested by the Gestapo

It was enough to convince air intelligence chiefs.

As a direct result of these conversations at Trent Park, RAF pilots were again sent out on secret reconnaissance missions to Peenemunde.

This time, they found the evidence that had been missing before.

‘The first discoveries in the M Room about Peenemunde caused great excitement,’ recalled listener Fritz Lustig.

‘It was quickly realised that a new rocket programme was under way. Picking up this kind of intelligence for the British was very important to us because it could mean the difference between winning or losing the war.’

On June 29, 1943, Churchill authorised an attack on Peenemunde. By a full moon on the night of August 17, 1943, pilots of Bomber Command carried out the first attack in a mission that included 324 Lancasters and 218 Halifaxes.

General Hermann Bernhard Ramcke (pictured) was told that Hitler had awarded him the highest level of the Iron Cross +6
General Hermann Bernhard Ramcke (pictured) was told that Hitler had awarded him the highest level of the Iron Cross

It came at a heavy price. More than 200 British aircrew were killed, along with hundreds of civilians in a nearby concentration camp.

But the impact of the bombing of Peenemunde cannot be over-emphasised. It bought extra time for the Allies and delayed Hitler’s first launch of a V1 on London until June 13, 1944, a week after the successful D-Day landings.

Without the intelligence from the M Room, Germany could have won the technological war, which would have made it difficult to mount the D-Day landings successfully.

The discovery was a major landmark in thwarting Germany’s race for weapons superiority.


As the Second World War approached its end, Kendrick made it compulsory for the generals to be shown footage of Germany’s concentration camps.

Their reactions were recorded in the M Room.

While some refused to believe what they saw, insisting that the film was fake, one commented that it was useless for senior officers to deny knowledge of the camps because ‘practically every German suspected that that sort of thing went on’.

Another said: ‘We are disgraced for all time, and not 1,000 years will wipe out what we’ve done.’

General Hermann Bernhard Ramcke was told that Hitler had awarded him the highest level of the Iron Cross (pictured). He never knew the citation was a British lie +6
General Hermann Bernhard Ramcke was told that Hitler had awarded him the highest level of the Iron Cross (pictured). He never knew the citation was a British lie

Few people have ever heard of Thomas Joseph Kendrick. One reason for his obscurity is that he and the majority of his staff had to take their secrets to the grave – they had all signed the Official Secrets Act.

Even after the official files were released between 1999 and 2004, it took another 13 years for formal recognition of the M Room’s significance, after the purchase of Trent Park for luxury homes.

Key areas within the mansion are now to be made into a museum dedicated to the work of the secret listeners.

With this story emerging from the shadows, the nation can finally pay tribute to the men and women of the M Room and the commanding genius of its spy chief.

Indeed, the author and historian Leo St Clare Grondona, who led de-Nazification classes for German prisoners at Wilton Park after the war, went as far as to say: ‘Had it not been for the information obtained at these centres, it could have been London and not Hiroshima which was devastated by the first atomic bomb.’

The Walls Have Ears: The Greatest Intelligence Operation Of World War II, by Helen Fry, is published by Yale University Press on August 27, priced £18.99.

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World War 2 horror as 600 cubes of Nazi uranium destined for Hitler's nuke missing
SCIENTISTS are on the hunt for more than 600 cubes of Nazi uranium that Adolf Hitler tried to weaponise at the height of World War 2.
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Today, only 14 cubes remain accounted for out of more than 1,000 used by the Nazis in unsuccessful experiments with weapons of mass destruction. After the fall of Adolf Hitler's Germany in 1945, Allied forces transported at least 659 cubes of the fissile material to the United States. What happened to the cubes after they arrived in America remains a mystery, however, with only a handful of research institutions still in possession of the dangerous Nazi relics.

One such cube unexpectedly arrived at the University of Maryland in 2013, nearly 70 years after the end of World War 2.

At the time, researchers were simply stunned by the magnitude of their discovery, with material scientist Timothy Koeth saying: "I was stunned. I didn’t have words."

Professor Koeth and historian Miriam Hiebert have now penned a book about the mysterious cubes - and they think they may have finally solved the Nazi mystery.

Their research was also published in 2019 in the journal Physics Today.
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According to the researchers, the uranium cubes are "the only living relic" of Nazi Germany's effort to create nuclear bombs.

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Professor Koeth told Insider they served as the "motivation for the entire Manhattan Project", which produced the world's first nuclear bomb in July 1945.

During their experiments with uranium, the Nazis created at least two prototype nuclear reactors.

One of these consisted of 664 uranium cubes stringed together and suspended into a pool of heavy water - water in which hydrogen atoms are replaced with deuterium.

A second, smaller reactor only used about 400 cubes of uranium at its core.

About a month before Germany's unconditional surrender on May 7, 1945, Allied forces retrieved about 1.6 tons of the fissile material near the German town of Haigerloch and shipped it back to the US.

But once they arrived in the US, their trail went cold and the majority of the cubes remain missing.
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Dr Hiebert said: "We currently know of 14, out of almost 1,000 that existed in total, so most of them are still unaccounted for."

Some of the cubes are found today at institutions like the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) in Washington state.

Measuring about two by two inches, the uranium cubes look rather inconspicuous.

But they are all made from the heaviest and one of the most dangerous materials on Earth - a radioactive element that can be fashioned into destructive projectiles and nuclear bombs.

According to the Maryland researchers, clues have emerged through their research to suggest the retrieved Nazi uranium was repurposed into America's own nuclear programme.

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Some, however, were clearly "picked off the pile" and handed and kept by various people as souvenirs.

Dr Hiebert, who was a PhD candidate at the time, said in 2013: "There’s this weird club they don’t know they’re a part of, and we want to get some of those stories."

Professor Koeth presently owns two of the cubes after one was gifted to him on his birthday about 10 years ago, and the second was given to him by an anonymous donor.

When it landed on his desk eight years ago, it came with a handwritten note that read: "Taken from Germany from nuclear reactor Hitler tried to build. Gift of Ninninger."
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Robert D. Nininger was a geologist working with the US Atomic Energy Commission in the Fifties.

Professor Koeth and Dr Hiebert have since unearthed documents to show Nininger worked with the Manhattan Project.

Questions, however, remain about the second Nazi nuclear and what came to be of the other 400 Nazi cubes.

According to the Maryland researchers, it is likely the cubes were sold on the black market in the USSR.
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Nazi nuclear waste from Hitler's secret A-bomb programme found in mine
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More than 126,000 barrels of nuclear material that Hitler planned to use in an atom bomb programme now lies rotting over 2,000 feet below ground in an old salt mine

More than 126,000 barrels of nuclear material that Hitler planned to use in an atom bomb programme now lies rotting over 2,000 feet below ground in an old salt mine

German nuclear experts believe they have found nuclear waste from Hitler’s secret atom bomb programme in a crumbling mine near Hanover.

More than 126,000 barrels of nuclear material lie rotting over 2,000 feet below ground in an old salt mine.

Rumour has it that the remains of nuclear scientists who worked on the Nazi programme are also there, their irradiated bodies burned in secret by S.S. men sworn to secrecy.

A statement by a boss of the Asse II nuclear fuel dump, just discovered in an archive, said how in 1967 'our association sank radioactive wastes from the last war, uranium waste, from the preparation of the German atom bomb.'

This has sent shock waves through historians who thought that the German atomic programme was nowhere near advanced enough in WW2 to have produced nuclear waste in any quantities.

It has also triggered a firestorm of uncertainty among locals, especially given Germany’s paranoia post-Fukushima.

Germany was the first western nation to announce the closure of all its atomic power plants following the disaster at the Japanese facility following the catastrophic earthquake and Tsunami in March.

There are calls to remove all the nuclear material stored within the sealed site but this would cost billions of pounds.

Yet the thought of Nazi atomic bomb material stored underground has made headlines across Germany - and the country’s Greenpeace movement has backed a call for secret documents relating to the dump to be released to the state parliament from sealed archives in Berlin.

It was in January of 1939, nine months before the outbreak of the Second World War, that German chemists Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann published the results of an historic experiment about nuclear fission.

The German 'uranium project' began in earnest shortly after Germany’s invasion of Poland in September.

Army physicist Kurt Diebner led a team tasked to investigate the military applications of fission. By the end of the year the physicist Werner Heisenberg had calculated that nuclear fission chain reactions might be possible.

Although the war hampered their work, by the fall of the Third Reich in 1945 Nazi scientists had achieved a significant enrichment in samples of uranium.

Mark Walker, a US expert on the Nazi programme said: 'Because we still don’t know about these projects, which remain cloaked in WW2 secrecy, it isn’t safe to say the Nazis fell short of enriching enough uranium for a bomb. Some documents remain top secret to this day.

'Claims that a nuclear weapon was tested at Ruegen in October 1944 and again at Ohrdruf in March 1945 leave open a question, did they or didn’t they?'

Ruegen is a Baltic island and Ohrdruf a top-secret bunker complex in Thuringia where local legend has it that an A-bomb was tested by the Nazis in the dying days of the war.

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Files suggest Nazis tested a NUCLEAR BOMB before WW2 ended .
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Did Hitler have a NUCLEAR BOMB? Mushroom cloud sighting in declassified US documents suggests the Nazis successfully tested a nuke before the end of World War Two
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Files unearthed in the US show how far Nazis got in bid to make an atomic bomb
A documented test may have taken place of a rudimentary warhead in 1944
Missile expert says he observed a mushroom cloud in the sky during a test flight
German test pilot Hans Zinsser said he saw the cloud south of city of Lübeck

By Allan Hall In Berlin for MailOnline

Published: 10:08, 23 February 2017 | Updated: 21:57, 23 February 2017

Documents unearthed in an American archive suggest that Nazi Germany may have tested an operational nuclear bomb before the end of the Second World War.

Recently declassified file APO 696 from the National Archives in Washington is a detailed survey of how far Third Reich scientists got in the development of an atomic bomb - something Hitler craved.

In the file, obtained by the popular daily newspaper Bild, the task of the academics who prepared the paper between 1944 and 1947 was the 'investigations, research, developments and practical use of the German atomic bomb.'
Documents unearthed in an American archive suggest that Nazi Germany may have tested an operational nuclear bomb before the end of the Second World War. Hitler is pictured above
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Documents unearthed in an American archive suggest that Nazi Germany may have tested an operational nuclear bomb before the end of the Second World War. Hitler is pictured above

The report was prepared by countless American and British intelligence officers and also includes the testimony of four German experts - two chemical physicists, a chemist and a missile expert.

It concurs that Hitler's scientists failed in the quest to achieve a breakthrough in nuclear technology - but that a documented test may have taken place of a rudimentary warhead in 1944.
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The statement of the German test pilot Hans Zinsser in the file is considered evidence: the missile expert says he observed in 1944 a mushroom cloud in the sky during a test flight near Ludwigslust.

His log submitted to the Allied investigators reads; 'In early October 1944 I flew away 12-15 km from a nuclear test station near Ludwigslust (south of Lübeck).

'A cloud shaped like a mushroom with turbulent, billowing sections (at about 7000 metres) stood, without any seeming connections over the spot where the explosion took place. Strong electrical disturbances and the impossibility to continue radio communication as by lighting turned up.'
Recently declassified file APO 696 from the National Archives in Washington is a detailed survey of how far Third Reich scientists got in the development of an atomic bomb - something Hitler craved (file picture of a German bomber)
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Recently declassified file APO 696 from the National Archives in Washington is a detailed survey of how far Third Reich scientists got in the development of an atomic bomb - something Hitler craved (file picture of a German bomber)

He estimated the cloud stretching for 6.5miles and described further 'strange colourings' followed by a blast wave which translated into a 'strong pull on the stick' - meaning his cockpit controls.

An hour later a pilot in a different machine took off from Ludwigslust and observed the same phenomenon.

According to other archival documents, the Italian correspondent Luigi Romersa observed on the ground the same explosion.

He had been sent by dictator Benito Mussolini to watch the test of a 'new weapon' of the Germans. He was ordered to report his impressions back to Mussolini.

It is known that Hitler pursued the goal of nuclear technology and wanted his V-2 rockets to be able to carry them to destroy the UK.

The testimony of the four German scientists in the declassified American report mentions a top secret meeting held in Berlin in 1943 at which armaments minister and Hitler favourite Albert Speer was present for the discussion called a 'nuclear summit.'

In the end the report states that the Allies believe the Germans fell short of triggering the nuclear chain reaction necessary to trigger a nuclear blast - but none could come up with an explanation for what occurred in the skies over Ludwigslust in 1944.

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Man finds material proving Nazis planned to build ATOMIC BOMB during WW2
A TREASURE hunting German pensioner turned up a lump of radioactive material that proves the Nazi quest to build an atomic bomb during WW2.
By Allan Hall
08:09, Fri, Sep 22, 2017 | UPDATED: 08:18, Fri, Sep 22, 2017
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A man has found radioactive material that proves the Nazi quest to build an atomic bomb during WW2
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Bernd Thälmann, 64, found the uranium based object near where a secret Third Reich factory was destroyed with 16,000 RAF bombs.

The industrial firm Auergesellschaft was founded in 1892 with headquarters in Berlin but its main plant was some 40 miles distant near Oranienburg.
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When Thälmann found the clump of material last Friday he triggered a major safety alert - and found himself at the centre of a criminal probe for the "illegal use of radioactive substances".

Thälmann originally took the mysterious, metal-like lump back to his home. Although it appeared to be metal it was not magnetic. As he researched it on the Internet he began to become alarmed and called the police.

Together with the fire brigade a cordon was thrown around his home and those of 15 neighbours. Experts wearing anti radiation suits used specialist equipment to determine that his find was indeed radioactive.

It was packaged into a lead lined box and taken away. Experts say it was part of the Nazi atom bomb project that was dispersed into the countryside after one of the bombing raids to level the plant.

Thälmann has refused to tell police exactly where he found it because he intends to return to the site in future for further expeditions. Prosecutors have not yet decided whether to press charges against him.

On Thursday morning near the site of the old factory 3600 people had to leave their homes after an unexploded 250-kilogram bomb was defused.

In February this year documents unearthed in an archive suggest that Hitler may have tested an operational nuclear bomb before the end of the war.

A declassified file from the National Archives in Washington is a detailed survey of how far Nazi scientists got in the development of an atomic bomb.

The wartime report concluded that Hitler’s boffins failed in the quest to achieve a breakthrough in nuclear technology – BUT that a documented test may have taken place of a rudimentary warhead in 1944. The enriched uranium would have come from the Oranienburg works.

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REVEALED: Adolf Hitler 'dropped NUCLEAR BOMB during World War 2 test'
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/nazi-nuclear-weapons-adol f-hitler-16989303

ADOLF Hitler dropped a nuclear bomb during World War 2 test, according to new secret files unearthed after more than 70 years.

By Henry Holloway Chief Reporter 00:00, 24 FEB 2017

Classified documents from the archives of Washington DC claim the Nazis tested a "rudimentary" nuclear device before the end of the war.

Shocking revelations about the Third Reich's nuclear programme comes after the full extent of Hitler's Nazi nuclear weapons programme was revealed by Daily Star Online.

Documents unearthed in the National Archives were compiled by British and American spies along with four German experts – including three scientists and a missile technician.

Hitler plotted to mount dirty bombs and nuclear warheads on the tips of Nazi’s devastating Vengeance V2 rockets which were in striking distance of Britain.

The Nazi leader was always encouraging scientists to develop "wunderwaffes" – or wonder weapons – in bid to win the war.
NAZI NUCLEAR BOMB: Adolf Hitler 'dropped a nuke test' before the end of World War 2 (Image: GETTY)

Nazi Germany did manage to drop a basic nuclear device in a test near the town of Ludwigslust, according to declassified file APO 696.

Documents reveal the Nazis failed to obtain a full-power device similar to the bombs dropped on Japan by the US, but they did have manage to detonate an improvised nuclear device (IND) in 1944.

Proof of the Nazi device comes from compiled testimonies from a test pilot who claims to have witnessed the test and and a war correspondent sent by Italian dictator Benito Mussolini to witness the test of a "new weapon", reports Bild.

Allied forces compiled the report from 1944 to 1947.
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German test pilot Hans Zinsser gives a statement in the file in which he describes seeing a mushroom cloud in the sky during a flight near Ludwigslust.

Allied investigators record his statement: "In early October 1944 I flew away 12-15 km from a nuclear test station near Ludwigslust (South of Lübeck).

"A cloud shaped like a mushroom with turbulent, billowing sections(at about 7000 metres) stood, without any seeming connections over the spot where the explosion took place.

"Strong electrical disturbances and the impossibility to continue radio communication as by lighting turned up."
ALLIES: General Groves (L) led efforts to stop the Nazi nuke bomb (Image: GETTY)

The pilot estimated the cloud stretching for 5 miles and described "strange colourings" followed by a blast wave.

Another pilot is also said to have witnessed the same phenomena when flying near the nuclear test station.

Other documents reveal Italian correspondent Luigi Romersa allegedly observed the same explosion from on the ground on the request of dictator Benito Mussolini.

The report concludes the Nazis never managed to obtain a fully operation nuclear device, but the witness accounts suggest a test was carried out by the Reich.

Hitler is accepted to have not been able to obtain a full-power nuclear weapon, by historians have suggested Nazi scientists did have the technology and were "two years ahead" of the Allies.

Nazis enjoyed a horrifying perfect storm of brilliant scientists and slave labour in their race to the nuclear bomb, respected British author Damien Lewis told Daily Star Online.

He described a secret war being waged between the Allies and Axis powers in a race to the nuclear bomb – which was not over until General Groves discovered the Third Reich's reactor hidden in a cave n the tiny village of Haigerloch, Germany.

Hitler considered nuclear bombs the “ultimate terror weapons” and would have targeted cities such as London and New York.

Daily Star Online revealed Hitler's obsession with terror weapons such as the monster tank the Panzer-1000 Ratte.

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Two German engineers warned of the presence of "up to five nuclear bombs" hidden in a mine as they showed their measurement results in the forest of Jonastal, Saturday.

Germany: Engineers warn of "Hitler's nuclear bombs" hidden in Jonastal

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Two German engineers warned of the presence of "up to five nuclear bombs" hidden in a mine as they showed their measurement results in the forest of Jonastal, Saturday.

Peter Lohr, a retired engineer and amateur explorer, said he found the "bombs" by coincidence as he tried out his new soil radar two years ago. After recently putting the data in 3D software, the "structure and lines that appeared show almost clearly that it could be a nuclear bomb. It could be a "Little boy" or a "Fat man," as he said, in reference to the two bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki by US forces in 1945.

His findings were confirmed by consulting Ralf Ehmann, an engineer for weaponry elimination. He examined the hill with a magnetic field metre and concluded there is "a very big anomaly, a very high magnetic momentum" in an underground "surface of around four times two metres."

As Lohr's claim came out last week, while local authorities had a specialised firm search the hill and declared that no nuclear weapons were stored there. Ever since Ehmann has been forbidden to continue his research.

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1944 GERMAN ATOMIC BOMB
http://the-wanderling.com/atomic_bomb.html

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"On Monday, July 16, 1945, a few weeks before their first meeting, during the very early pre-dawn hours my Uncle, who lived in New Mexico, was startled, along with many others no doubt, by a huge flash of light that filled the whole of the night sky in a giant half bubble arc across the desert toward White Sands. Unknown to him at the time, that flash was associated with the first atomic device ever set off on the face of the earth."

MEETING DR LA PAZ

Although most historians would go along with the above and what my Uncle observed that morning on July 16, 1945 was in fact "the first atomic device ever set off on the face of the earth," there exists nonetheless, strong rumors and reports to the effect that it is just not the case. Contrary to the typically accepted historical facts there are a number sources that say on October 12, 1944, nine months before the New Mexico U.S. nuclear device was set off, Nazi Germany detonated a nuclear bomb on the island of Rugen in the Baltic Sea, the first in a series of three tests.

It has been reported that Luigi Romersa, an Italian correspondent during World War II, was personally dispatched by the Italian dictator Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) to the island of Rugen to witness the weapons test. Romersa (1917-2007) was the last known witness, at least to have come forward, to what he and some historians have said was the detonation of a Nazi nuclear device. In an article by John Hooper in The Guardian dated September 30, 2005, Romersa, relating his experience, is quoted as saying:


"They took me to a concrete bunker with an aperture of exceptionally thick glass. At a certain moment, the news came through that detonation was imminent," he said. "There was a slight tremor in the bunker; a sudden, blinding flash, and then a thick cloud of smoke. It took the shape of a column and then that of a big flower.

"The officials there told me we had to remain in the bunker for several hours because of the effects of the bomb. When we eventually left, they made us put on a sort of coat and trousers which seemed to me to be made of asbestos and we went to the scene of the explosion, which was about one and a half kilometers away.

"The effects were tragic. The trees around had been turned to carbon. No leaves. Nothing alive. There were some animals - sheep - in the area and they too had been burnt to cinders."


The other two devices were set off on March 4, 1945 and March 12, 1945. Both were detonated in the central part of Germany in the German mountain and forest state of Thuringia near the town of Ohrdruf. The test is said to have killed over 700 POWs interred in the Ohrdruf concentration camp located practically under ground zero. Those killed were burned, survivors suffered from severe nosebleeds and untreatable burns. Clare Werner, a resident who happened to be standing on a nearby hillside witnessed the explosion in what she termed as a military training area not far from the town of Ohrdruf. About what she observed she has stated:


"It was about 9:30 when I suddenly saw something ... it was as bright as hundreds of bolts of lightning, red on the inside and yellow on the outside, so bright you could've read the newspaper. It all happened so quickly, and then we couldn't see anything at all. We noticed there was a powerful wind, then nose bleeds, headaches and pressure in the ears."


The next day a man named Heinz Wachsmut, an employee of a local excavating company, was ordered by the SS to assist in building wooden platforms to cremate the remains of the corpses of the prisoners. According to Wachsmut the bodies were covered with horrific burn wounds. He also reported, like Werner, that local residents complained of headaches, and spitting up blood.

Now, the question is, is any, all, or none of the above true or not. To determine an answer, I provide without comment, after a brief preface, the following from a totally neutral party that has over 1346 pages and over 5,000 photographs on the internet documenting the atrocities committed during World War II by the Nazis in their concentration camps, as so sourced at the end of the article. As a preface, that is setting the scene, Ohrdruf was the first and only concentration camp that the Supreme Allied Commander, General Eisenhower ever visited.

Captain Alois Liethen was a U.S. Intelligence Officer assigned to Ohrdruf to investigate the camp for the military. The question I ask as does the source ask:


Why was Captain Alois Liethen investigating this small, obscure forced labor camp long before he arrived in Germany? Why did all the US Army generals visit this small camp and no other? Could it be because there was something else of great interest in the Ohrdruf area besides the Fuhrer bunker and the salt mine where Nazi treasures were stored?

The Buchenwald camp had been liberated the day before the visit to the Ohrdruf camp. At Buchenwald, there were shrunken heads, human skin lampshades and ashtrays made from human bones. At Ohrdruf, there was nothing to see except a shed filled with 40 bodies. So why did Captain Alois Liethen take the four generals to Ohrdruf instead of Buchenwald?

What was Captain Liethen referring to when he wrote these words in a letter to his family?

After looking the place over for nearly a whole day I came back and made an oral report to my commanding general -- rather I was ordered to do so by my boss, the Col. in my section. Then after I had told him all about the place he got in touch with the High Command and told them about it and the following tale bears out what they did about it.

There has been some speculation that the Germans might have tested an atomic bomb near Ohrdruf. In his book entitled The SS Brotherhood of the Bell, author James P. Farrell wrote about "the alleged German test of a small critial mass, high yield atom bomb at or near the Ohrdruf troop parade ground on March 4, 1945." The "troop parade ground" was at the German Army Base right next to the Ohrdruf labor camp.

Why did General Eisenhower immediately order a propaganda campaign about Nazi atrocities? Was it to distract the media from discovering a far more important story?(source)


The distraction, of course, was the Germans having detonated a nuclear bomb, a major game changer for the Third Reich depending on what their intent was relative to its use. That late in the war was just what they needed, a game changer, and an Atomic bomb, like the Nagasaki bomb did for the U.S., would have done it. The question is, what would that use as a game changer have been. Again-and-again when researching the German nuke you read where the scientists working on the program stalled the forward momentum. However, the device used in Rugen Island blast was said to have bypassed the heavy-water bomb and went straight to the use of uranium and done so under the direct hand of the SS. During the war the Germans were obsessed with the destruction of Hoover Dam on one hand and the bombing of the city of New York on the other. Most likely any fully operable and deliverable atomic device would have been aimed toward nothing but the destruction of New York City. Why one of the three wasn't is not known. Or is it? Hoover Dam was another thing.


"During World War II a large portion of the German military hierarchy, all the while raging war all over Europe, Russia and North Africa, still found time to seem excessively over obsessed with destroying a variety of high priority targets in the United States. Their selection of targets were for both psychological intimidating reasons as well as the actual destruction of important war related infrastructure. Sites continually brought up for attack were, among others, New York City, Washington D.C., the defense plants in and around Detroit, and Hoover Dam. Plan after plan for one or the other came on the table. Some plans were rejected as logistically infeasible or to costly relative to the results. However, some plans, seemingly falling into both categories were tested and/or actually put into motion. One of those plans, an attack against Hoover Dam was implemented in more than one way."(source)


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WORLD WAR II GERMAN SIX-ENGINE JUNKER JU-390
INTENDED USE TO DROP ATOMIC BOMB ON THE U.S.

The problem was that the bomb wasn't done. Not only did the Germans need an ultimate game changer at the top they were running out of time at the bottom and needed something significantly major to stall things on the short term so the bomb could be completed beyond a test stage into an actually deliverable weapon.

For that short term gap the Germans turned to the conventional, using their vastly accumulated knowledge gained from building and using a relatively long string of successful undersea craft over two wars, quickly designed, built, and implemented a special submersible they called a Vergeltungswaffen, a V-weapon, i.e., vengeance weapon, made for one specific purpose and one specific purpose only: the destruction of Hoover Dam.

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What was the sub made of or carrying that the Germans could have developed that would have accomplish such a task to such a point that the submarine itself would come to be called a vengeance weapon? The mission had all probabilities of being detected prior to reaching or accomplishing its goal, so for the Reich to have incorporated some sort of non-conventional top secret weapon they had on the shelf such as an operational heavy water bomb or the German atomic bomb --- or something even more non-probable such as a particle beam delivery system requiring something as large as the sub to power it is questionable at best. Plus, nothing has ever come forward indicating the Germans had any sort of weaponry similar to the task or at that level they were willing to transport that far abroad, so they mated their already known up to that point rocket technology with their underwater craft expertise using a special built submersible and a new, albeit off the shelf rocket known as a Rheintochter R 1. The major drawback with the Rheintochter as opposed to the V-2 was that unlike the V-2 that had a fairly accurate travel distance of several hundred miles, the Rheintochter had a short range, meaning it's launch point had to be close to the target. In the case of Hoover Dam it had to be right on top of the target because of the amount of payload it was expected to carry. Hence the submersible.



FULLY OPERATIONAL SOLID FUEL RHEINTOCHTER R-1 SURFACE TO AIR MISSILE
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Unlike V-2s and the vast majority of other operational German retaliatory type rocketry weapons, which used liquid fuel which inturn would make transporting and use extremely difficult, the Rheintochter R 1 was solid fueled meaning it would be fully operational on a moments notice and able to withstand long term transportation over rough seas or tumultuous rivers without special handling.

RHEINTOCHTER R 1

A few years after the war, in conjunction with planned attacks against Hoover Dam, a little known side note surfaced. A man who identified himself as having been a stereograph photo interpreter during World War II for the OSS, the pre-runner to the CIA, while going over aerial photo survey maps working for a U.S. based oil company after the war, came across a strikingly familiar visual structure he recognized from his OSS days scouring aerial photo maps of Europe. The problem with what he found was it was out in the middle of the American desert southwest. Without anybody's knowledge and on his own he went out to look it over. What he found was what looked like a long abandoned structure in various stages of construction or dismantling, with all the similarities and configurations of a V-1 launch ramp located 50 or more miles south-south west from Hoover Dam with the launch-ramp rails aimed directly toward Hoover Dam. The V-1 was a well known weapon used by the Germans toward the end of the war. A surface-to-surface missile capable of carrying nearly a one ton explosive payload, totally enough to bring down the dam in a straight on hit, especially in the upper reaches. The V-1, however, was unguided. It had to have a direct line of sight launch of which the ramp in the desert seemed to provide. They did though, have a manned version. See:


V-1 FLYING BOMB RAMP IN THE DESERT SOUTHWEST


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On a number of my websites, including the Meeting Dr La Paz site listed as the source for the opening quote at the top of the page, I have stated over-and-over that the nuclear explosion at Trinity Site in New Mexico on Monday, July 16, 1945 was the first atomic device ever set off on the face of the Earth. I'm sticking to that overall premise in my works such as the La Paz site as well as the sites listed below continue to reflect. In the end what I have presented about the German bomb being the first or not doesn't impact the overall thesis in what I have presented elsewhere about the American bomb being first. Either way, if you take the potential possibility of the Germans having set off not just one, but a total of three nuclear devices practically before the U.S. even built the drop tower at Trinity site as being accurate, you have to admit it is mighty, mighty interesting.

As for back-up proof, there are two additional examples below that are highly involved in events surrounding the aforementioned German or Nazi atomic bomb, and if not substantiating the German nuke and it's detonation, put forward a strong case for same. Unlike some of my sites that mention America's atomic bomb in some fashion or the other as listed further down, they are not specifically related only to the Trinity Site. Both sites do however, involve my uncle with the first one also involving a man of some mystery by the name of William Lawrence Campbell (linked below), as well as the Russians, the Nazis and arctic Siberia. The second one circulates around the Japanese setting off a nuclear weapon at a test facility in Japanese occupied North Korea within days of the Hiroshima bomb.



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During the closing days of World War II the Russians absconded something or some things from the Germans apparently too large, bulky, or heavy to be transported via available aircraft at their disposal. The only alternative for a quick and expedient method for transporting something of a large size secretly and without excess outside scrutiny or takeover was apparently via their own Soviet controlled railroad through Soviet owned or occupied territory.

However, somewhere along the way, in or near the far reaches of Arctic Siberia, either while still on the train or after it had been transferred to vehicles, it disappeared. That is to say, somewhere between the time it left wherever it left and it was to get to wherever it was going, it never arrived. Since there were no witnesses (at least left alive) the Soviets figured the only people able to pull off such a large scale operation undetected and get away with it would be upper echelon German military remnants with a concerned interest, Nazi rogues or sympathizers, or the Americans. The problem with any German or German related operatives is that they wouldn't have anyplace to take it nor the support infrastructure to put it to any use except to market it to the highest bidder. If it was the Americans, or the Americans in cahoots with Germans of any stripe, whatever the Russians had they couldn't admit they had it so they couldn't complain that the Americans had done it. So too, if it was the Americans, they could neither admit they had whatever it was, or, if it came out that they did, it would imply through inference that the Americans would have to had transgressed sovereign Soviet territory.

Since the above information was put online quite a number of emails have been received wanting to know just what the "it" was that the Soviets absconded from the Nazis at the close of the war in Europe. Other than the somewhat ambiguous highly classified information or material connected to the German rocket scientist Werner Von Braun and that whatever the Soviets absconded with was apparently secretly transported to Siberia by train, not much else was said.

Sometime right after the end of World War II my uncle crossed paths with a man named William Lawrence Campbell who had been exploring the high mesa Camp Diablo site where a 130 pound meteorite fragment from the same meteor that created Meteor Crater only 60 miles away and buried ritual style was found, to scavenging meteorite scraps from the Canyon Diablo scatter field surrounding Meteor Crater for a friend of my uncle's, Dr. Harvey Nininger, founder of the American Meteorite Museum, the first meteorite museum in the world. In those days, early to mid 1946, Campbell, former military that he was, was almost borderline paranoid with little or no trust of anybody. He usually sat with his back to the wall, was continually looking over his shoulder, and invariably jumped at the slightest sound, re the following:


"(Campbell) purposely kept a low profile by anonymously losing himself in the vastness of the desert southwest immediatly after being mustered out of the Army at the end of World War II. He basically disappeared as quickly as possible, or at least it has been intimated, because of charges of misconduct unbecoming of a person in uniform. Apparently some sort of highly classified information or material connected to the German rocket scientist Werner Von Braun absconded by the Soviets in the closing days of the war and of a high interest to the United States, was being secretly transported by train across Siberia. It was then off-loaded and moved via convoy to a very remote area in the far north. It never arrived at it's destination all of it having simply disappeared enroute. Campbell, who had been operating in the Arctic regions for the U.S. Army Air Corps for a good part of the war, was somehow caught up in the disappearance." (source)


As time wore on and the war and wartime experiences faded into the background he mellowed. During that same period, for whatever reason, he and my uncle formed a bond, and with that bond there developed an opening to some wartime background experiences including some of the things already alluded to. Campbell was extremely tight lipped about the Siberia thing and to my knowledge he never told anybody other than my uncle about it that I know of. If my uncle knew any more than what I have written up to this point he never revealed it to me in an out-and-out blatant fashion. However, over the years I have extrapolated a number of small mentions here and there and putting them together have come up with a pretty good picture.

Basically it starts around what is mentioned in the main text above and the German nuclear weapon, that is, the central part of Germany in the German mountain and forest state of Thuringia near the town of Ohrdruf. From that, correlating dates, I discovered the one time top secret info on the test of an explosive device of an extreme nature that occurred that was said to have killed over 700 POWs interred in the Ohrdruf concentration camp located practically under ground zero of the explosion. That explosion is said to have been the second of two nuclear devices the Germans set off just at the end of the war. What Campbell was apparently involved in, as a member of a covert military team, was the hijacking of all the bomb development related records, physical material used in the construction of the bomb, and equipment to do so while it was in transit by the Russians to Siberia. Much of the knowledge garnered from the hijacked material was said to have been incorporated into the U.S. efforts that led to the destruction of Hiroshima, something Campbell was not comfortable living with.


WILLIAM LAWRENCE CAMPBELL

THE POTHUNTER


With all of Campbell's personal loathing about the U.S attack on Hiroshima and Nagasaki the Japanese weren't exactly angels themselves, having their own nuke program which they would have used against us given the chance. Like the Germans they were making strides, but just enough behind the U.S. efforts they were not able to use theirs first. There are strong rumors to the effect that the Japanese set off a test bomb in North Korea within days of America's attack on their homeland. Interestingly enough, the exact same way Campbell was in on the U.S absconding with all kinds of German stuff related to the Nazi bomb that I have presented above, in a tit-for-tat duplication of the American efforts, except this time they got away with it, the Russians swept down on the Japanese test site in North Korea and took all the Japanese stuff, including their scientists, back to Russia before we could. Never to be seen again of course.


Below, for your own edification, is a list of the other websites wherein I mention the 1945 U.S. New Mexico nuclear test at Trinity Site in some fashion, most commonly related back to my uncle and then how atomic bombs and atomic bomb tests, German or American, circle back to what I have presented elsewhere in my works:


ELDEN PUEBLO, WINNONA METEORITE

THE WANDERLING AND HIS UNCLE

AREA 51, GROOM LAKE, ROSWELL

JAPANESE MIDGET SUBMARINES

THE JAPANESE SECRET WAR

MEETING DR. LA PAZ

DRAKE EQUATION

THE POTHUNTER

FOO FIGHTERS


The question is, why would I, a known Zen-man of some repute as found in Dark Luminosity and elsewhere, have or display any interest other than at the most cursory in where, when, who, or how the first atomic bomb, be they German, Japanese, or U.S., was developed, detonated, or delivered --- especially so at such a level that I have been compelled to put forth several pages to no end about it?

Which brings us to the second example, which primarily has to do with my uncle specifically, and who, after the death of my mother, was so prominent in my early childhood development and upbringing, especially after my father remarried and my Stepmother entered the picture.

Some years prior to my uncle becoming my guardian he was biosearching in the back country of New Mexico not far from the top secret Los Alamos nuclear facilities when he came across some rather alarming Axis-induced fifth column activities, and having done so, being shot point blank by foreign operatives and left to die because of it.

The year was 1943, the war wasn't even a year old, my uncle was a civilian living in New Mexico and for sure a non-combatant, actually falling more into a role of a conscientious objector type than anything else. He had long been established as an artist in the region, but he was as well what I call a biosearcher. Prior to his death in 1989 he had, as a biosearcher, more than a half dozen plant species named after him following years of trekking, searching, and discovering previously unknown and unnamed plants all over mostly remote and hidden areas and sections of the desert southwest.

In 1943 he was biosearching alone in the then largely uninhabited mountainous and desert-like terrain in the central section of New Mexico between the New Mexico and Arizona border on the west and the north-to-south flowing Rio Grande on the east when he came across two men, and unusually so, both Asian. One of men was flat on his back all but unconscious and visibly quite ill after apparently having been bitten by a rattlesnake with the bite being left untreated. My uncle, after using the healing properties of indigenous plants he gathered up, soon found the man up and around. One of the men who had a rudimentary use of English told my uncle they were Japanese, were testing soil samples for radioactivity, and had been left off in Mexico by submarine. By then my uncle was wanting to beat a hasty retreat but before he could one of the men shot him in the back point blank. They took his truck and although they left him to bleed out he survived. In 1985 a book titled The Japanese Secret War authored by Robert K. Wilcox was published. In the book Wilcox writes about the two Japanese men my uncle encountered and the U-boat they arrived in, of which I turn around and write about as found in the sourced link below the quote so cited:


"Wilcox's book that, for the first time brought to the public's attention Japanese agents having been in the desert southwest during World War II specifically tasked with testing soil samples for radiation, was published in 1985. It was in 1970, fifteen years before Wilcox's book was published that my uncle told me about his 1943 encounter with Japanese spies soil testing deep into state of New Mexico and the fact that according to their own testimony, they had initially been brought to Mexico via German U-boat from Europe. "


THE JAPANESE SECRET WAR


JAPANESE MIDGET SUBMARINES
A-BOMBS, MIDGET SUBS, AND THE CALIFORNIA CHANNEL ISLANDS


VETERAN'S ZEN

FROM K.P. TO ENLIGHTENMENT: ONE G.I.'S PATH FOR ALLEVIATING STRESS,
DISSIPATING ALL THE THE BULLCRAP AND LAYING LOW THE FOG OF WAR


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HOW JAPAN COULD HAVE ATTACKED THE U.S. IN 1937


I-9 SINKING OF THE SS LEWIS CASS
WW II PLOT TO UNLEASH BUBONIC PLAGUE AGAINST LOS ANGELES

1942: THE GREAT LOS ANGELES AIR RAID

NAZI PLOT TO BLOW UP HOOVER DAM

JAPAN'S WWII A-BOMB PROJECT

REICH OF THE BLACK SUN

THE FLYING TIGERS
THE BOY IN THE MAN REMEMBERS THE LEGEND

GRAF ZEPPELIN


ATOMIC BOMB FROM H.G. WELLS' 1895 NOVEL "THE TIME MACHINE." FROM DELL MOVIE CLASSICS
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THE WANDERLING: TAKING HIM WITH A GRAIN OF SALT


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A GIANT SIX ENGINE BOMBER, DARK GREEN AND BLACK WITH GERMAN INSIGNIA CRASHED IN THE SEA OFF OWLS HEAD, MAINE

By the end of the war the Germans were on the ropes and willing to try almost anything. They knew the end was closing in on them and any last major "big bang" of a coup that could possibly turn the tide in their favor, give them a breather, or extend the war long enough to finish the development, operational reliability, and production on some of the weapons they were working on such as the V-2 rocket, Me 262 jet fighter and the massive six engine 7000 mile range Ju 390.

So long range was the abilities of the Ju-390 one was been reported to have left Europe coming in over Canada crossing into U.S. airspace to photograph defense plants in Michigan only to exit out over the Atlantic sometime after noon on August 28, 1943 by coming in behind any east-facing aircraft detection systems and passing directly over New York above the Empire State Building.

Ironically, because of that flyover, reported or otherwise, without any fanfare or raising controversy, a drawing of a six engine German bomber by a New York based artist showed up in a rather innocuous little publication dated January, 1944.(see)



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For years reports have surfaced that the next year, sometime around September 17-19, 1944, a large six engine aircraft painted very dark green and black paint crashed in the sea off Owls Head Lighthouse, Maine. A resident of Burlington, Vermont, Ruben Paul Whittemore, has reported he had relatives who witnessed the recovery of three bodies found in the Penobscot river estuary on September 28, 1944 and taken by the U.S. Coast Guard to Rockland Maine Station. One of the witnesses states he saw one body in a uniform later identified as a German Luftwaffe Signal Corps Uniform, (grey-blue with yellow/brown collar tabs).(see)

Sometime in the mid to late 1990s a scuba diver came across what appeared to be a radial aircraft engine laying on the seabed some distance off the cliffs from the Owls Head lighthouse and traced it along with other pieces of wreckage strewn across the sand back to the main body of the craft the engine and pieces apparently came from. She recovered what has been said to be a constructor's plate with raised lettering, albeit somewhat eroded but still readable, with the following:


RMZ WURKE Nb 135?34 (Allgemiene)
JUNKERSMOTORENWERKE (Agts: Haan)
FWU WURKE Nb 135?34 (Gbs: Fliegeroberstkommando Rdt.)


Most people who ascribe any amount of credibility to the downed craft said to be laying in the water off the coast of Maine pretty much agree it's mission was not recon like the August 28, 1943 flight, but to bomb New York. Evidence has surfaced in some quarters the attack would not have been conventional in nature either but possibly nuclear.


It should be brought to the attention of the reader that, even though I emphasize New York as being the target of choice for the Germans, there was as well, the major metropolitan area of London, England, which they had been bombing all along with not only conventional bombs but V-2 rockets as well --- London being much closer and strategically more convenient. However England was prepared and that late in the war Germany was finding it harder and harder to penetrate England's defenses, while New York had none. The following article appeared in the London Daily Telegraph, Saturday, August 11, 1945, two days following the Nagasaki attack and almost one full year AFTER the actual alert was called:




















The city of New York had been in the crosshairs of the German military more than once. For example, during World War I, except for fate intervening they came close --- and their method for their planned attack was within reason.

As found reported in ZEPPELINS: High Altitude Warships, near the end of World War I an attack on the city of New York, composed of three special type of rigid airships called Height Climbers, was being put into place and advocated by Korvettenkapitan Peter Strasser. To demonstrate the successful completion of such an attack to the German High Command, Strasser had flown the L-59 nonstop from Bulgaria to the Sudan in Africa and back. The newer Height Climbers had even greater range. Before he had a chance to put the attack into motion, what was to be the lead ship, the L-70, was caught coming in over England at the low altitude --- for a Climber --- of around 17,000 feet and shot out of the sky with Stasser in command. The two other ships trailing behind immediately raised altitude beyond the range of the fighters and escaped. With Strasser dead and the L-70 gone the New York raid was shelved.

Almost right out of high school I got a job with a company that designed and built the breathing equipment for the U-2, the then super-secret high altitude spy plane. Because of the nature of the secrecy surrounding the plane, working there required me to obtain a confidential clearance. Because of that clearance I met a person called "Harry the Man," who, at that time was considered to be the top-rated high altitude breathing equipment specialist in the world. Top-ranked generals and pilots from all over the world would come by to pay him homage. Kelly Johnson of the Lockheed Skunk works was his friend as well as Howard Hughes. Harry had reached that high-exalted position because of what he learned from World War I Zeppelins, especially so the Height Climbers and the need of their crews for oxygen at the extreme altitudes they routinely operated. See:


AREA 51, GROOM LAKE, ROSWELL


















I have a page on the web called the P-40 Goose Shoot that describes an air battle that occurred over the southern Mediterranean and the coast of North Africa on April 18, 1943. That air battle involved 46 P-40s shooting down a fleet of 100 fully loaded German Junker troop transports flying just above sea level escorted by 50 Messerschmitt fighters, apparently all fleeing Tunisia in a concerted last ditch effort to reach Sicily.

A four page illustrated story on the attack appeared in BLUE BOLT No. 6, dated January, 1944. On my page, as part of what I present regarding the shoot out, I used the four pages. The publication unit for the comic book was based in the city of New York with the art work for that particular story attributed to a man named Harry Ramsey, of which below is one of the pages:




Ramsey has done a fairly good job on his rendition of the P-40s, but note the German bombers --- they are all six-engine models. The Germans had a six engine bomber, the Ju-390, a model that was reportedly never seen before it was photographed by a person onboard a convoy ship supplying the beachhead during the Allied invasion of North Africa in November 1942, a photograph that didn't show up for public viewing until well after that date.

As I have stated previously, it had been reported that the next year a Ju-390 left Europe coming in over Canada crossing into U.S. airspace to photograph defense plants in Michigan only to exit out over the Atlantic sometime after noon on August 28, 1943 by coming in behind any east-facing aircraft detection systems and passing directly over New York above the Empire State Building.(see)



PHOTOSHOP RENDITION OF GERMAN BOMBER OVER NEW YORK CITY AUGUST 28, 1943
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The question is, how is it Ramsey, who did an excellent job drawing the P-40s come up with the idea of a six-engine German aircraft? Did he just happen to look up from his drawing table on the afternoon of August 28, 1943 and see the fly over of the six-engine Junker and simply incorporate them into his story published January 1944 as though they as a bomber were an everyday German plane? With a slight assist from a fellow artist in the same building the answer is yes.(see)

The difficulty most historians have with such a claim is that the Ju-390's first flight is officially stamped into the records as happening two months later, on October 20 1943. The existence of the Ju-390 over North Africa in November 1942 was not widely known even in the theater of operation and being kept a secret outside of it.


THE GHOST AND THE HAUNTED B-29


GHOST P-40


GHOST P-40: THE LORE, LEGENDS AND HER WHEREABOUTS



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P-40 WARHAWK
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The range of a Ju-390 was said to have been just slightly over 6,000 miles. Depending where the plane lifted off, a round trip bombing run from somewhere in German occupied Europe, say Mont-de-Marsan near Bordeaux to New York as it has been reported and back during World War II, would have been in the 7,200 mile range. That would make the Ju-390 coming up short by at least 1,200 miles, running out of fuel someplace over the north Atlantic on its return unless it was refueled somewhere, somehow along the way.

It was hoped for by the Germans that they could use the Azores as a refueling stop either coming or going or both. However, by the time the flight was to be put into motion the Azores had already fallen well within the sphere of the Allies and unavailable to the Axis. In that the U.S. over-flight was intended to be a one off round trip sortie, putting into place an elaborate or long term refueling facility would be unnecessary --- not only that, besides blatantly giving away any of their secret intentions, such a facility would also be difficult to construct, support, and defend.

The flight of the Ju-390 from Europe coming in over Canada and into U.S. airspace to photograph defense plants in Michigan only to exit out over the Atlantic sometime after noon on August 28, 1943 by coming in behind any east-facing aircraft detection systems and passing directly over the city of New York is a total different animal. Compared to a strict bombing run on New York and back, flying in over Canada and exiting directly out over the Empire State Building would put somewhere in the vicinity of 1,200 additional miles on a round trip flight --- meaning of course, ending up with a major fuel deficit of at least 2,400 miles returning to Europe.

The Germans knew with the flight distant capabilities of the Ju-390 they could make it to the defense plants in Michigan and back IF the Azores were included. However, the Azores had long been removed from the equation. As usual the Germans had a plan --- or at the very least an ace up their sleeve, no matter how unplayable it may have appeared on the surface. That plan circulated around a practically secret location 350 miles north of the defense plants where two of the Great Lakes, Lake Superior and Lake Huron practically come together at Sault Ste. Marie. It so happened, directly under their flight plan from Canada to Michigan, on the U.S. side right at that conjunction of the two Great Lakes and out in the middle of nowhere, there existed a massive, little used, little known and little defended giant air field.




That airfield, originally built to defend the Soo locks on the Sault Ste. Marie canal had, as depicted above, a triangular shaped configuration of three interconnecting over 5,000 foot long concrete runways. The plan was to use the airfield for a refueling stop. The aircraft would still be carrying some fuel when it set down, just not enough for a complete round trip, and knowing it would take thousands of gallons to top it off and, although there was a possibility the airfield had a store of aviation fuel somewhere, not wanting to take a chance the Germans wanted to ensure not only its availability but that the total control was under their own hand by not tipping their hand. A method was devised and put into place to refuel it. Before the Ju-390 ever left Europe German agents scrounged around for a couple 2 1/2 Ton 6x6 airfield fuel trucks or equivalent.




The location of the airfield was less than six miles due south through the forest from Pendills Bay which is wedged along the lakeshore between the larger Whitefish Bay of the even larger Lake Superior. A ship or a boat with fuel obtained or loaded in Canada from a mother ship would meet the trucks somewhere along the shore near the outlet of Pendills Creek offloading the fuel however difficult, albeit giving a direct easy access through the woods to the airfield.

Trucks of that nature typically carried around 750 gallons of fuel which, to top off the Ju-390, would require either several trucks or several trips or both, none of which is known how it was done. German commandos secured the area long enough for the landing, refueling and takeoff, all of which apparently went off without a hitch. How the offloading of fuel from the ship or boat to shore was accomplished or how the trucks were filled is not known with any amount of certainty. However, over the years following the war quite a number of empty 44 gallon drums similar to the one pictured below were found up and down along the beach and under the water not far Pendills Creek. The tops of the drums were stamped with a number of German words including the date 1943. The words translate roughly into: Kraftstoff = fuel; Feuergefahrlich = highly inflammable or combustible; Wehrmacht = unified armed forces of Nazi Germany.




As to any standing military use or dis-use of the airfield during the time period refered to for the German black ops refueling of the Ju-390, the following has been adapted and presented here from the much longer multi-page article so cited:


Just when the townspeople became used to having 12,000 U.S. military personnel in their town, businesses, and their backyards (where anti-aircraft weapons were sometimes positioned), the buildup was reversed. Before the year 1943 was half over the War Department ordered that by September 1st the entire Sault area contingent be reduced to less than 2,500 officers and men. The aircraft warning installations and anti-aircraft emplacements were also to be abandoned. By the end of 1944 there was only one company of men left at nearby Fort Brady.

WHEN WORLD WAR II CAME TO THE SAULT



RACO ARMY AIRFIELD, RACO MICHIGAN

The source for the majority of the airfield use by the German bomber is from a personal interview with an actual eyewitness to the event, a former airman doing routine guard duty the night the plane swept on to the base. The quote is from the source so cited:


"He was doing routine guard duty sometime around midnight out along the edges of the facility when he was taken to the ground by a group of armed men. He was tied up and gagged and put with a couple of other G.I.s he knew that were also pulling guard duty, all closely watched over on the tarmac by a guy with a grease gun looking weapon. Soon, out of the dark a huge six engine bomber-like plane with a ton of wheels and later to be seen close up as being painted in a dark camouflage pattern with an iron cross insignia on the side of the fuselage, set down on the runway right in front of him hardly making a sound --- as if it was making an engines off landing. As quick as the plane come to a stop than a tanker truck pulled up and started refueling it. As soon as it emptied a second truck pulled up just as quick. When the refueling was completed he and the other two guards were forcibly nudged to get up and walk toward the plane. At first he thought they were going to be made to get on the plane, but just short of doing so they were forced to their knees and he was sure he was going to be shot in back of the head. Instead they were locked in a close by electrical shed. He could hear the engines start up and the plane begin to taxi, then it was gone. They were able to free themselves but couldn't get out of the shed until someone came across them and let them out."

THE GHOST AND THE HAUNTED B-29






















The above graphic depicts a JU-52, the type troop transport that was on the recipient or loosing end of P-40s during the 100 plane North Africa "Goose Shoot." Notice the three engine tri-motor configuration, a big difference when compared to the six engine plane depicted by the artist.



The question remains, how is it Ramsey, who did an excellent job drawing the P-40s come up with the idea of a six-engine German aircraft? Did he just happen to look up from his drawing table on the afternoon of August 28, 1943 and see the fly over of the six-engine Junker and simply incorporate them into his story published January 1944 as though they as a bomber were an everyday German plane? The following is found on the Goose Shoot page, Footnote [3]:


When my uncle discovered in some roundabout way that he actually knew Harry Ramsey, the artist who did the drawings used in the Goose Shoot, my uncle, knowing how much I loved the story decided to put into place a situation where the two of us could actually meet.

At the time we were talking I didn't know the difference between one German bomber and the next, and for the most part still don't to this day. What was most intriguing for me was that when (Ramsey) was creating the drawings for the story neither did he. One day at lunch or over coffee or drinks, and still struggling with his dilemma to complete the story, he mentioned his bomber problem to a fellow artist who just happened to be a cartoonist drawing comics day-to-day for the same publishing company.

The next day his fellow artist went through his morgue and came up with a series of three or four pencil sketches he drew dated August 1943 of a huge six engine plane with a German insignia on the fuselage he saw flying by his high perch window one day in the sky over New York. Since nobody was excessively over interested in drawings done by some low level cartoonist, he just stuck them away in his morgue. With a few minor changes such as the tail section, from two vertical stabilizers to one, Ramsey used the same low level cartoonist's drawings for his own bomber inspiration.


The photograph of the JU-390 a few paragraphs above-back, said to have been taken from a convoy ship supplying the beachhead during Operation Torch, the Allied invasion of North Africa in late 1942. The following is fairly typical of what is found written about the sighting and photograph:


"Interestingly the photo snapped of RC+DA was taken during an attack on a Malta Convoy in 1942, suggesting this aircraft was possibly operated by LTS.290 in North Africa. The photo clearly shows a white 'Afrika' band used for identification of German aircraft operating in the Mediterranean, or North Africa. The photo was taken by merchant seaman Ron Whylie whilst his convoy KMF-5 was under attack in late 1942. The date alone disrupts claims that the first J-390 flight was made in 1943.

"A copy of his photo of RC+DA was long held by the Museum in Vienna and published by German test pilot Hans Werner Lerche in his own autobiography. Lerche confirmed the aircraft RC+DA was indeed a Ju-390 aircraft."(source)


There are as well many comments, both pro and con, about the possibility of the photo being "photoshopped." However, personally I have a tendency to lean toward the "not photoshopped" side, especially since strong evidence exists that the photo has long been known to exist in its present form with no known reason for it to have been modified, that is there was nothing to gain as the original owner, as far as I have been able to discern, had no dog in the hunt.


According to the well researched work of Sy Gunson as so sourced at the end of this section and pretty well backed up elsewhere by others in their own research, the Ju-390 aircraft marked RC+DA was in fact attached to LTS.290 and was involved in the ferrying of freight to Tunisia in 1943. The photo of RC+DA is given credit to having been taken by a merchant seaman named Ron Wylie of convoy KMF-5 while in support of Operation TORCH.

Confirmation of this is that RC+DA displays the white North Africa service fuselage band used up to May 1945 by LTS.290. LTS.290 used a number of early Ju.290 prototypes and Ju.90 aircraft to ferry supplies to Tunisia in the closing stages of of the North Africa campaign. No Ju-290 nor Ju-390 would have used this white band after May 1943.

Gunson states it is not a photo montage at all. The reknown Ju-390 test pilot Hans Werner Lerche in his autobiography refers to RC+DA in his book and mentions it as the other Ju-390.

It's first test flight was well before October 20, 1943 which is asserted by authors Gunther & Ott. October 20th was in fact the date when the Allies intercepted a diplomatic signal to Tokyo giving a table of performance details for the Ju-390, which was so explicit that it was impossible for a program of test flights to have established all this in just the last ten days of october 1944. A USN Intelligence report in June 1945 asserts the Japanese already had full performance details for the Ju-390 by October 1943.(source)

SY GUNSON


NOTE: If you go to the Gunson link above please note that two of his major areas of interest, and quite by coincidence by the way, match two of my areas of interest as well. First, the mysterious German U-boat U-196 and secondly, as reported on this page, the potential possibility of not only a Nazi atomic bomb prior to the end of World War II, but also the actual testing of one.

For more on the JU-390 photograph see:


JU-390 PROTOTYPES


















V-1 FLYING BOMB RAMP IN THE DESERT SOUTHWEST

Most people who are familiar with my online works know that when I was in high school and spent the summers on the ranch owned by my Stepmother, or ex-stepmother as the case may be in that she and my dad had divorced by then, that she had a whole series of ranch-like jobs, or chores as she called them, for me to do, some less glamorous than others. One of those chores, on the slightly more glamorous side than shoveling up horse poop, was cleaning up the tables located in and around the floor space on either side of the dance hall on Sunday mornings following the western hoedowns and minor ruckuses from the night before. That same chore included as well, serving and bussing the tables for the breakfast hold overs and those nurturing headaches from that same night before. Even though I was a worker bee just doing his job, most were aware I was the son of the owner which in turn gave me a little more status and leeway with the customers and any interaction thereof.

One Sunday morning a man stepped up to the table the ranch foreman was having breakfast with a group of friends and introduced himself as a geologist while at the same time handing the foreman a photograph. The geologist said he had overheard a conversation a week of so before where basically the same group was discussing a German submarine attack on Hoover Dam. Before they had a chance to throw him out he quickly interjected that during World War II he had worked as a stereograph photo interpreter for the OSS. Right away hearing the acronym "OSS" and with most knowing what it meant their ears perked up with the foreman, after seeing the photo and hearing the OSS quip, asking him to sit down.

The geologist told the group with the war over and now a civilian, his area of employment expertise was investigating large geologic land forms after finding them through photographic aerial surveys, an almost direct job cross-transformation from his previous duties with the OSS except now he was primarily employed by major and even minor oil companies.

The man said that some time back during the routine viewing of aerial surveys of the outwash plain due west of the Colorado River and about 70 miles south-south-west of Hoover Dam he came across a land form that had all the appearances of being the remains of a very ancient meteorite impact crater. As far as he was concerned, although previously unidentified and unnamed, the aerial photographs clearly showed discernable remnants of a circular crater outer ring sporting a diameter of approximately 18 miles with a well defined vestige of a central peak. Right away, hoping to possibly get credit for the discovery of a previously unknown impact crater, maybe even having it named after him, he packed up his four wheel drive former Army ambulance converted to a camper van and headed out to the desert to see if any conclusions to what he saw in the photo-survey might have merit.

On his second day of exploration he heard what sounded like the sputtering of the engine of of small plane in trouble. Searching the sky he saw some distance away what looked like a Piper Cub type plane spewing a line of dark to gray smoke out behind it and going down. He immediately got into his truck and started out across the desert to see if he could attend to the matter in some fashion. When he got on the scene it was a Piper Cub type spotter plane with Air Force markings, the pilot sitting alone in the shade of some boulders nearby. He said he had been on his way to an Air Force base north of Las Vegas when the engine caught fire. He tried to level off and set the plane down as easy as possible but the terrain was too rough to allow it, breaking the landing gear and flipping the plane nose down tail up. The pilot said he had time to send out a May Day message before he lost power and everything went dead, although he hadn't received a response. He also said that he fully expected somebody to be there to pick him up without the passage of any amount of time.

Nobody showed up by nightfall so the man made dinner and the two of them crashed for the night. The next morning sitting around drinking coffee a small two man bubble-canopy chopper with only the pilot showed up. After joining for coffee the two of them got in the helicopter and headed out. Before they did they told the man they would appreciate it if he didn't say anything about the plane, the crash or any of the events associated with it. In the process he asked if either of them knew anything about a manmade structure a few miles southeast that appeared to be in the stages of either being built or torn down but in either way, abandoned for a long time nevertheless. Neither of them knew anything about it but the pilot said he would scope it out, flying in the structures direction when they left. The man got in his van and headed in the same direction arriving at the structure some time later. He got out, took a few pictures, did some rough measurements, got back in his van and went back to what he was doing when he first heard the plane the day before

As an OSS photo interpreter during the war he had seen pictures of similar structures before, but while at home he did additional research to see if his hunch was correct, and it was. It was after that he showed up at the ranch and passed the photo around explaining to the group and especially so the ranch foreman what the structure was he saw. Since I never had the photo in my possession where I owned it and it belonged to me, the photo shown a couple of paragraphs below is not the actual photo the man passed around, but it is so close to the original I am including it here for the reader to get a good idea as to what the photo he passed looked like. What the original photo showed and that I saw, was a man-made bolted together single rail metal ramp of some sort standing all by itself out in the middle of the American southwest desert.

The ex-OSS man said after much scrutiny of hundreds of survey photos he was able to find it and get some idea as to its size, length, and location. The thing is, when he went back some weeks later with a friend to help take more photographs along with additional and more accurate on the ground measurements of the structure, there was no sign of it nor did it look like anything had ever been there. He had driven in with his 4X4 van along with his friend to the spot where the small plane went down first and, although the plane as expected was gone, the firepit from he and the pilot's overnight stay was still there. From there he drove across the desert to the spot where the structure was, or at least should have been and nothing. It was gone.



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However, when the structure was dismantled and removed without a trace, what the dismantlers didn't know was that when the man was there the first time after leaving the pilot, since he was on BLM or federal land, he wrote out a mining claim statement giving all the locations and descriptions as necessary to file a claim, then put the papers into a Walter Raleigh or Prince Albert-like pipe tobacco tin and stashed it under a pile of rocks. When he did, taking into consideration any sudden heavy rains or flash floods, he built it on higher ground some distance up and away from the structure.

Like the native people that carved the giant stone heads and erected them all over the island of Rapa Nui, after they completed nearly 800 and set most of them upright they suddenly stopped and seemingly just walked away leaving at least 300 unfinished with the tools they worked with just left beside them. The structure in the desert was the same way. If it was being assembled or dismantled is not known, however, although no specific tools were found and not all of the parts were accounted for, there were pieces of metal railings, bracing or struts, and a large number of nuts and bolts of different sizes scattered all over. Because of some kind of gut intuition or instinct the man gathered up a bunch of the materials and buried them near his stone monument after measuring off 25 paces exactly due north. Whoever dismantled and hauled everything off never saw the monument nor the buried material because neither site were disturbed. He also told the group that when he returned home his place had been totally ransacked and all his notes and survey photos gone.




The man, seeing a certain amount of skepticism, even though talking with a group that believed in the possibility of the Germans attacking Hoover Dam with a submarine, told the foreman that he could take him to the spot where he buried parts of the structure, dig them up and show him. The foreman, who fought in the Pacific during World War II had zero knowledge about V-1's found the whole idea interesting but not sure, since a V-1 and a submarine doing the same job was sort of redundant, which agency or agencies in the Third Reich would be responsible. He knew the submarine was true, now he wanted proof of the launch ramp. He also knew to do so would require at least two days off. Taking me with him would also assure an OK from his boss, my stepmother. I went along and I saw the parts.

The ramp location was not far across the California Nevada state line on the California side, around 50 miles south-southwest of Hoover Dam roughly 35 miles parallel west of Davis Dam. The launch starting point, i.e., the lower end of the ramp, was on the south-southwest end, the higher part, the terminus of ramp launch on the east-northeast end. So said, such positioning made the long-length axis of the ramp low end to high launch direction aimed directly straight toward Hoover Dam. Once altitude was achieved the fully unobstructed south facing outside downstream front surface of the dam was fully exposed to an unhindered impact of a potential V-1 launch.



There are a few of things important here. First, the V-1, although crude and cheap to build, it should still be considered a fairly formidable weapon, especially for its time. Unmanned, it carried a nearly one ton destructive payload over a distance of at least 150 miles at over 350 MPH. Secondly, the V-1 was not a rocket. It was powered by a jet engine known as a pulse-jet. No rocketry was involved. So too, although the V-1 was a missile, it wasn't a guided missile, at least in the classical sense. After being launched in a fixed direction toward the target a mile measuring device or counter was set so that after covering a certain distance the engine shut off and the V-1, no longer being powered, just fell out of the sky, Hopefully, for the senders, if the math was right, it fell on the target. For the recipients, their hope was just the opposite. It is thought in a Hoover Dam attack the intention would be for the V-1 to just slam into the outward facing wall head-on with a 2000 pound payload.

There was one more thing the Germans had up their sleeve. A piloted version of the V-1 flying bomb designated the Fi-103 Missile: Reichenberg IV, shown below. Notice the cockpit. The short wingspan, inherit in the basic V-1 design anyway, would be however, perfect for an attack on Hoover Dam flying up the Colorado River between the narrow high canyon walls, although it is not known how maneuverable a manned version of the V-1 was. It shows how desperate the Third Reich was getting late in the war. The Reichenberg IV was basically a kamikaze-like suicide bomb. If you think the whole attack on Hoover Dam is crazy think about it for a minute --- the Germans building manned flying suicide bombs. The pilot can get in, but he can't get out.



MANNED FLYING BOMB: FI-103 REICHENBERG IV. NOTICE THE COCKPIT AND SHORT WING SPAN


V-1 LAUNCH RAMP

FOR A DIFFERENT VIEW OF ANOTHER LAUNCH RAMP WITH FULL SCREEN SIZE CLICK IMAGE THEN CLICK AGAIN
V1 launching ramp, by David P Howard
Photo © David P Howard
Available for reuse under this Creative Commons licence


GERMAN SUBMARINE ATTACK ON HOOVER DAM

V-1 FLYING BOMB 1942-1952

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hitler 'tested small atom bomb'
By Ray Furlong - BBC News, Berlin
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4348497.stm

Adolf Hitler
Sceptics agree the book sheds new light on Nazi nuclear experiments
A German historian has claimed in a new book presented on Monday that Nazi scientists successfully tested a tactical nuclear weapon in the last months of World War II.

Rainer Karlsch said that new research in Soviet and also Western archives, along with measurements carried out at one of the test sites, provided evidence for the existence of the weapon.

"The important thing in my book is the finding that the Germans had an atomic reactor near Berlin which was running for a short while, perhaps some days or weeks," he told the BBC.

"The second important finding was the atomic tests carried out in Thuringia and on the Baltic Sea."

Mr Karlsch describes what the Germans had as a "hybrid tactical nuclear weapon" much smaller than those dropped on Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

'Bright light'

He said the last test, carried out in Thuringia on 3 March 1945, destroyed an area of about 500 sq m, killing several hundred prisoners of war and concentration camp inmates.

The weapons were never used because they were not yet ready for mass production. There were also problems with delivery and detonation systems.


Karlsch has done us a service in showing that German research into uranium went further than we'd thought... but there was not a German atom bomb
Michael Schaaf, German physicist
"We haven't heard about this before because only small groups of scientists were involved, and a lot of the documents were classified after they were captured by the Allies," said Karlsch.

"I found documents in Russian and Western archives, as well as in private German ones."

One of these is a memo from a Russian spy, brought to the attention of Stalin just days after the last test. It cites "reliable sources" as reporting "two huge explosions" on the night of 3 March.

Karlsch also cites German eyewitnesses as reporting light so bright that for a second it was possible to read a newspaper, accompanied by a sudden blast of wind.

The eyewitnesses, who were interviewed on the subject by the East German authorities in the early 1960s, also said they suffered nose-bleeds, headaches, and nausea for days afterwards.

Karlsch also pointed to measurements carried out recently at the test site that found radioactive isotopes.

Sceptical response

His book has provoked huge interest in Germany, but also scepticism.

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