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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Illuminati in a nutshell Reply with quote

Most texts about the Illuminati are patchy but there is some easily verifiable core evidence which can be useful to anyone who wants to assess whether or not they, or a similar group, are at work behind the scenes today.

Personally my research and knowledge of this secret society, which has probably changed its name many times to obfuscate itsself, has helped immensely in understanding the DEIST philosophy behind much of the quasi-religiousness of the likes of Bush and Blair.

Satan (The Illuminati still call him Lucifer) is the brightest and most intelligent of the heavenly host and because he is pure spirit he is indetructible. But he is only supported by one (the demonic) third of the spirit world.

In challenging an Illuminati agenda of lies it makes sense to spiritually tune in to the two-thirds majority (angels) and honour God (Yahweh) and his only son (Yeshuah or Jesus).


ORIGINS
Rituals written by Adam Weishaupt in the Grand Orient lodges of freemasonry, Bavaria, Germany. Formally inaugurated in 1776.

AIMS
(1) Abolition of ALL ordered national governments
(2) Abolition of inheritance
(3) Abolition of private property
(4) Abolition of patriotism
(5) Abolition of the family as the cell from which all civilisations have stemmed.
(6) Abolitions of all religions so that the Luciferian ideology of a totalitarian elite may be imposed on mankind.

STRATEGIES
(1) USE TEMPTATION TO ENTRAP
To use monetary and sex bribery to obtain control of people already occupying positions in high places in ALL governments and other fields of human endevour. Once fallen they were to be held in bondage by application of political and other forms of blackmail and threats of financial ruin, public exposure, and physical harm.
(2) GET THEM WHILE THEY'RE YOUNG
Illuminati on the faculties of colleges and universities were to recommend students belonging to well-bred families for special training in internationalism. They were to be at first persuaded and then convinced that men of special ability and brains had the RIGHT to rule those less gifted. Three special Illuminati schools are located at Gordonstoun in Scotland; Salem in Germany; and Anavryta in Greece.
(3) TERMINATOR AGENTS
Blackmailed Illuminati puppets and Illuminati educated students were to be used as agents and placed behind the scenes of ALL governments as 'experts' and 'specialists' so they could advise the top executives to adopt policies which would bring about the ultimate destruction of the religions they werre elected or appointed to serve.
(4) TO OWN PUBLIC DISCOURSE
The Illuminati were to obtain control of the press and all other agencies which distribute information to the public. News was to be slanted so that the public would get behind Illuminati puppets and come to believe in a One World Government as the only solution to the world's problems.

DEGREES
0. Preparation
1. Novice
2. Minerval
3. Illuminatus Minor
4. Illuminatus Major (Scotch Novice)
5. Illuminatus Dirigens (Scotch Knight)
6. Presbyter (Priest)
7. Principatus Illuminatus (Prince)
8. Magus (Master)
9. Rex (Man-God)

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“The great strength of our Order lies in its concealment: let it never appear in any place in its own name, but always covered by another name, and another occupation. None is fitter than the three lower degrees of Free Masonry; the public is accustomed to it, expect little from it, and therefore takes little notice of it.
"Next to this, the form of a learned or literary society is best suited to our purpose, and had Free Masonry not existed, this cover would have been employed; and it may be much more than a cover, it may be a powerful engine in our hands. By establishing reading societies, and subscription libraries… we may turn the public mind which way we will.
In like manner we must try to obtain an influence in… all offices which have any effect, either in forming, or in managing, or even in directing the mind of man.”

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ORIGINS
Rituals written by Adam Weishaupt in the Grand Orient lodges of freemasonry, Bavaria, Germany. Formally inaugurated in 1776.


The Illuminati was commissioned by the then King of the (Ashkenazi) Jews Meyer Amscjhel Rothschild. The Lucifer stuff is obviously a smokescreen (unless you really think the supernatural is more credible than conjuring tricks)

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1773 - Mayer Amschel Rothschild assembles twelve of his most influential friends, and convinces them that if they all pool their resources together, they can rule the world. This meeting takes place in Frankfurt, Germany. Rothschild also informs his friends that he has found the perfect candidate, an individual of incredible intellect and ingenuity, to lead the organization he has planned – Adam Weishaupt.


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1828 – Mayer Amschel Rothschild, who finances the Illuminati, expresses his utter contempt for national governments which attempt to regulate International Bankers such as him: “Allow me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who writes the laws.”

1848 — Moses Mordecai Marx Levy, alias Karl Marx, writes “The Communist Manifesto.” Marx is a member of an Illuminati front organization called the League of the Just. He not only advocates economic and political changes; he advocates moral and spiritual changes as well. He believes the family should be abolished, and that all children should be raised by a central authority. He expresses his attitude toward God by saying: “We must war against all prevailing ideas of religion, of the state, of country, of patriotism. The idea of God is the keynote of a perverted civilization. It must be destroyed.”


http://michaeljournal.org/nwo1.htm

Aims of Ill seem strangely similar to those outlined in the Protocols...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A nice concise article with well-chosen links

http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2005/08aug/redshield.htm l

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"...set all in motion and all in flames..." One of the best compilations of original Illuminati writings anywhere on the web....



Spartacus (Weishaupt) to Cato (Zwack, a lawyer)
http://www.freedomdomain.com/illumin.html
"By this plan we shall direct all mankind. In this manner, and by the simplest means, we shall set all in motion and in flames. The occupations must be so allotted and contrived, that we may, in secret, influence all political transactions. I have considered everything, and so prepared it that if the order should this day go to ruin, I shall in one year re-establish it more brilliant than ever. Nor will it signify though all should be betrayed and printed. I am so certain of sucess, in spite of all obstacles (for the springs are in every heart) that I am indifferent, though it should involve my life and my liberty. But I have the art to draw advantage even from misfortune, and when you would think me sunk to the bottom, I shall rise with new vigour. Who would have thought, that a professor at Ingolstadt was to become the teacher of the professors of Gottingen and of the greatest men in Germany?"


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red Ice Creations is a very good website.

There `s an interesting interview with Michael Tsarion well worth listening to which covers Lucifer and the Illuminati.
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2007/04apr/RICR-070419.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Handshake?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A dude in the pub told me what the illuminati secret was: There is no secret..what better secret than that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynne wrote:
A dude in the pub told me what the illuminati secret was: There is no secret..what better secret than that.


Those dudes in pubs are legendary in their insight Razz

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice Post Tony!!

I think you've highlighted a key point to all of this, And that is the religious side of things. These people admit in their own writting that they worship lucifer (check N.W.O written by A. Raplh Epperson)

The Phoenix that they think shall rise from the flame started on september 11th 2001. The twin towers was a ritualistic event that they believe shall bring about a 1,000 years of peace and joy.

Remember no one thinks evil, Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair think they are doing good, Remember that!! By the time they get to the high degrees of the mystery religions their hole moral system is turned up-side down, What we might perceive as evil is actually seen as something good to them. And also remember this is common in the new age movement, So people watch out for them!
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Since religions contradict each other only two possible truths are possible.

1) Only one is correct
2) None are correct

It is my opinion that the elite of the elite worship no-one. They know that belief is the enemy of truth. Their control over you is enhanced by inducing in you all sorts of beliefs.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great early ninties dance toon - one for the movement man!
A groovy message to all unbelievers! Who's the artist?
Hop about and pipe this short video through to your flatscreen video wall. NOW!
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-814828769286918194

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Nuffrespect's great little Youtube channel
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=NufffRespect

More great tunes here
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a cool video, and song.

Just to clarify, it suggests that the story of Jesus should be seen as allegory for the movement and precession of the sun. It`s talking about astrology, hence all the similarities between Jesus and other historical figures such as Horus, Mithra, Krishna, Hesus, Odin, Dionysus etc.
The cross is a pagan symbol reflecting the zodiac - nothing to do with crucifixion.

This is all explained cogently in the film http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ (10 minutes in) which Nuffrespect seems to support.

So we shouldn`t take the bible and the Jesus story literally.
Does this mean that you are opening your mind ?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice try martin Wink
But on here we can decide for ourselves why the ancient sun worshippers might want to incorporate their iconography into.... the greatest story ever told.

And here's something to take things on a bit rather than shunt discussions into the sidings.


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Just to clarify, it suggests that the story of Jesus should be seen as allegory for the movement and precession of the sun.....

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the illuminaughty were in a nutshell... we could crack them. Or maybe get them on crack. If they are not all on metaphorical crack already.

Fascist Factoid of the Day: According to Bill Deagle, George Bush thee Elder is partial to morphine.

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Advisory on this interview - that goes with the territory.............

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If the illuminaughty were in a nutshell... we could crack them. Or maybe get them on crack. If they are not all on metaphorical crack already.

Fascist Factoid of the Day: According to Bill Deagle, George Bush thee Elder is partial to morphine.

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http://www.illuminaticonfessions.webfriend.it/#news2

Leo Zagami was an Illuminati Prince of the Italian P2 lodge and he is blowing the whistle big time. To avoid being murdered, he has gone public and do access his site before (as he warns) it is shut down by the 'powers that be.'

This is the year when the real truth comes out - thank goodness...

Let me know if you have time how the info. resonates with your good selves.

Together we can change the world.

In peace from Pen x

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Yes I've often found in interesting how the objectives of the Illuminati are basicly the same as those which Marx laid out.
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I would like to know how they can be called the Illuminati when they hide in the dark.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Illuminati in a nutshell Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
In challenging an Illuminati agenda of lies it makes sense to spiritually tune in to the two-thirds majority (angels) and honour God (Yahweh) and his only son (Yeshuah or Jesus).

Why do you assume that YHWH is God, Tony? Does God fly in the sky? The Hebrew God did. Does God murder children? The Hebrew God did. We have the Hebrew text, their book that says that their God is the true God and look at Israel (ISis-Ra-El) today!

I could go on and on but this isn't really a forum for theology. But hasn't it occured to people that religions and 'holy books' such as the Bible were put together by the so-called Illuminati of thousands of years ago? Can you see more of the bigger picture yet?
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Ron Paul net neutrality china evil on good people from the satanic freemasons / satanic illuminati - prepare, expose em' be loud be constant, be FREE !!!

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Tony's knowing remark about how the illuminati "still call Satan, Lucifer" impels me to protest. I regard Robert 'de Grimston' Moore as something of an expert on the differences between them :
http://feastofhateandfear.com/archives/robert_07.html

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TonyGosling wrote:
Great early ninties dance toon - one for the movement man!
A groovy message to all unbelievers! Who's the artist?
Hop about and pipe this short video through to your flatscreen video wall. NOW!
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-814828769286918194

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Dunno the artist I remember its use and success in the 90's and haven't heard it since then, I'll try and find out!
In your reply further down I notice you'll probably find the US band ABSU of interest, their 1st release was entitled 'Barathrum V.I.T.R.I.O.L.'
here is a link to some lyrics Wink http://www.darklyrics.com/a/absu.html
Although it would seem they are embracing the darkness, I sure hope our leaders don't listern to Black Metal sheesh what a turn off Laughing

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There most certainly IS such thing as the supernatural - I can say that from empirical experience, and as someone who on principle has, on some kind of innate principle, never sought out the spirit world.

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The Lucifer stuff is obviously a smokescreen (unless you really think the supernatural is more credible than conjuring tricks)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony, I think you are an obscurantist.
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http://obscurantist.com/texts/la-times-lizard-peoples-catacomb-city-hu nted/#more-489

BTW are we having a party when the 2000th registers later today?

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Gordon Brown etc and the likes of -






? - fortunatly, I think not.

If they did, I agree... it would make you feel so...dirty.

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BTW are we having a party when the 2000th registers later today?


I think most of them are spammers judging by the names but who knows

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Yes I've often found in interesting how the objectives of the Illuminati are basicly the same as those which Marx laid out.


Rothschild paid Marx to write the Communist Manifesto.

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=8112

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"Anyone who has allowed the scales to fall from their eyes can see that the world's top occultists are to be found among the ruling class and that those New Age groups who attract disciples by offering training in 'chaos magick', 'creative visualisation' or 'rubbing the Buddha for money', are worse than mere rank amateurs, they are shameless charlatans. Indeed, many of them are quite consciously working to prevent the development of a system of symbol manipulation that is completely autonomous of the state. Currently, Masonry is marshalled in defence of the status quo, but as the Bavarian Illuminati demonstrated in the eighteenth-century, power always flows in two directions and it rarely emanates from what is widely misperceived as constituting the 'centre'. The cellular form of secret societies devised by the founders for the security of the movement, can as readily be used to hoodwink the leadership, who thus become unwitting front men for activities they would never countenance. By infiltrating the Lodges of Masonry, it is possible to spread a heretical message of freedom across the world."

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Rowan
look, you've poisoned it again
Stuart Home is a perverted bondage freak - for art's sake of course
Rowan Berkeley wrote:

http://www.stewarthomesociety.org/neoism/holborn.htm

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
Oh Rowan
look, you've poisoned it again
Stuart Home is a perverted bondage freak - for art's sake of course
Rowan Berkeley wrote:

http://www.stewarthomesociety.org/neoism/holborn.htm


you don't understand détournement, Tony - when he says this he is making fun of graphic designers:

Michael K: I like the new design and feel a lot but was initially taken aback as the old website had a very underground feel with a flavour of sedition and the forbidden about it. The new style is much more friendly and, obviously, authorial. I wonder had you consciously decided that the old site's flavour was dated? Or perhaps that it had in some way limited you?

Stewart Home: I had no control over the design of the old site, but it did really look like a 1995 bulletin board and graphically tended to be very messy with lots of different type sizes on the pages and a fairly random mixture of colours underneath. It had a real feel of anti-design, a rejection of design, which gave it an immediacy and attracts a certain type of audience. But to be honest, that style of anti-design isn't to my taste, although I respect Space Bunny for going with his own vision and also for paying a lot of attention to making it possible for those with poor dial up connections and weedy computers to look at it. I'm still trying to keep the pages pretty light, so that people aren't excluded (beyond those with no computer access at all of course, and that is most people in the world, I don't like that but I have to live with it), but I wanted a more controlled look (and yes sexually I do like seeing a naked woman on my bed constrained by a pair of handcuffs and with a blindfold over her eyes).

http://www.stewarthomesociety.org/interviews/michaelk.html

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