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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:31 am    Post subject: 9/11 Trials Forced Out Of New York Reply with quote

Trials costing $200m-a-year threaten to strip New York of 9/11 terror cases
By Neil Millard - 30th January 2010
Estimates of a 200m-a-year bill to host the trials of 9/11 terror suspects are threatening to force them out of New York altogether.
In a letter this month, Mayor Michael Bloomberg warned of the likely cost of securing the city during the court cases which could push them out of the scene of the crime.
It is more than double the original estimate and officials were again forced to think twice when New York's chief policeman detailed the huge security arrangements which would have to be put in place.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1247288/Trials-costi ng-200m-year-threaten-strip-New-York-9-11-terror-cases.html#ixzz0e9Jst O5h

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could this be because New Yorkers are now so wise to the real perps?
Cant stuff a NY jury any more can we.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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An unapologetic U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder blasted ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani in a published report for turning his decision to try terrorists in civilian courts into a "partisan issue."

Holder told the New Yorker that it was "exceedingly strange" to hear the one-time zealous prosecutor (Giuliani) publicly express a lack of faith in the U.S. justice system.

"If Giuliani was still the U.S. Attorney in New York, my guess is that, by now, I would already have gotten 10 phone calls from him telling me why these cases needed to be tried not only in civilian court but at Foley Square," Holder told the magazine.

Under protest from Mayor Bloomberg and Sen. Charles Schumer, Holder and the Obama Administration have backed away from trying 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed in Manhattan federal court.

But Holder is not kowtowing to critics like Giuliani and former Vice President Cheney, who believe Mohammed and his Al Qaeda henchmen should be prosecuted by military tribunals.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/02/05/2010-02-05_attorne y_general_eric_holder_rudy_giuliani_is_playing_politics_on_911_terror_ tri.html


Zzz: Applying the "Inside Job" lens to this issue: it is crystal clear that both Giuliani and Cheney don't want a fair trial only a show trial within a Military tribunal.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps those assiduous Zionists at Harvard have something to do with the present trend to ensure 'black remains white, lies remain truth'.

Shades of the wall-to-wall stifling of truth going on in most 9/11 fora these days?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/AN-ATTACK-FROM-HARVARD-LAW-by-Bill-Wi llers-100203-909.html

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While the article's title suggests conspiracy theories broadly, the 9/11 Truth Movement is the paper's focus, and it reveals substantial concern regarding that Movement's ongoing advance. Particularly ominous is that the authors, who use "theorists" and "extremists" interchangeably, limit their focus "to potentially harmful theories". To whom, one might wonder, would the 9/11 Truth Movement, so "worrisome" for the authors, be harmful? And why do the authors consider the 9/11 Truth Movement such a "serious threat" that it should be "broken up or at least muted by government action"? (pg 21)

The authors contend that conspiracy theorists suffer from "cognitive blunders" and "crippled epistemology". Using psycho-philosophic parlance they are saying those failing to accept the official story of the 9/11 Commission, leading members of which admitted it was "set up to fail", cannot think straight. But the "theorists/extremists" they wish to censure include by now thousands of physicists, architects and engineers using only physical facts and data; substantial figures in theology and philosophy applying elementary logic; military, political and intelligence personnel from all over the world with lifetimes of experience in how the system -- including its underbelly -- functions.

So, what is proposed? "Practically speaking", the authors write, "government might do well to maintain a more vigorous counter-disinformation establishment." (pg 19) They recommend that government officials respond "to more rather than fewer conspiracy theories [which] has a kind of synergy benefit: it reduces the legitimating effect of responding to any one of them, because it dilutes the contrast with unrebutted theories." (pgs 15, 29) Such advice assumes that all theories -- or aspects of a single theory -- are essentially equal in validity or lack of validity -- an odd position for legal minds supposedly sensitive to fine distinctions. But that would not matter when the point is simply to defeat citizen efforts.

More menacing, however is that the authors suggest "planting doubts [to] undermine the crippled epistemology [through] cognitive infiltration" of groups by governmental agents or by forces appointed by government. (pgs 3, 14, 15, 22, 29)"Government agents (and their allies)", they write, "might enter chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine percolating conspiracy theories." In light of such proposals for dealing with citizens seeking truth, that Cass Sunstein is "one of America's leading constitutional scholars" (See above link to the White House announcement) is appalling.

The authors contend that "crippled epistemology" arises from the "sharply limited number of (relevant) informational sources" used by conspiracy theorists, this making the theories "especially hard to undermine or dislodge; they have a self-sealing quality, rendering them particularly immune to challenge." (pg 3) This drips with irony, for information coming from the expertise found within the 9/11 Truth Movement, while both extensive and diverse, has been limited only through censoring by the U.S. Government. What's more, there has rarely been a "theory" more resistant to opposing information -- more absolutely and officially "self-sealing" -- than the mockery that is the official 9/11 Commission Report.


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