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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about attention seeking liars who are 'having a larf'?
You know, like Crop Circles?

Truthseeker_34 wrote:
Well my conclusion on "alien abductions" is that of 3 possibilities.

1. Non-Human
2. Government and/or Agencies
3. Non-Human and Government and/or Agencies


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, blow me down! All those hundreds of highly trained USAF men fooled by a burning lorry! Laughing

Who do you think you are fooling, Mr Turtill?

(apart from Daily Mail readers and some here who ought to know better than to be duped by badly disguised disinfo). Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:02 am    Post subject: UFO alert: police officer sees aliens at crop circle Reply with quote

UFO alert: police officer sees aliens at crop circle

A police officer contacted British UFO experts after seeing three aliens examining a freshly made crop circle near Avebury, Wiltshire.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/6394256/UF O-alert-police-officer-sees-aliens-at-crop-circle.html

By Alastair Jamieson
Published: 11:36AM BST 20 Oct 2009

A British police officer contacted UFO experts after seeing three aliens examining a freshly made crop circle near Avebury, Wiltshire.

The sergeant, who has not been named, was off-duty when he saw the figures standing in a field near Silbury Hill, and stopped his car to investigate.

However, as he approached the 'men' – all over 6ft tall with blond hair – he heard "the sound of static electricity" and the trio ran away ''faster than any man he had ever seen''.

The officer returned to his home in Marlborough, Wiltshire, and contacted paranormal experts and told them he had spotted a UFO.

Wiltshire Police has refused to comment on the incident, saying it is a ''personal matter'' for the officer involved.

Crop circle researcher Andrew Russell, who is investigating the bizarre sighting on behalf of the officer, described the moment his sighting was made.

He said: ''At first he thought they were forensic officers as they were dressed in white coveralls. He stopped his car and approached the field.

''The figures were all over 6ft and had blond hair. They seemed to be inspecting the crop. When he got to the edge of the field he heard what he believed to be a sound not dissimilar to static electricity.

''This crackling noise seemed to be running through the field and the crop was moving gently, close to where the noise was.

''He shouted to the figures who, at first, ignored him, not glancing at him. When he tried to enter the field they looked up and began running.

''He said; 'They ran faster than any man I have ever seen. I'm no slouch but they were moving so fast. I looked away for a second and when I looked back they were gone.

''I then got scared. The noise was still around but I got an uneasy feeling and headed for the car. For the rest of the day I had a pounding headache I couldn't shift.''

The bizarre incident occurred on the morning of July 6 this year as the police officer was driving.

The officer claims the three figures were examining a crop circle, which had appeared several days earlier, when he stopped his car and began walking towards them.

However, the mysterious beings disappeared when he ''looked away for a second'' and he contacted UFO experts after witnessing other paranormal activity.

A spokesman for Wiltshire Police said: ''The police officer was apparently off duty when this happened so we have no comment to make because it is a personal not a police matter.''

Crop circle expert Colin Andrews, who investigated the incident alongside Andrew Russell, said he is ''convinced'' by the police officer's story.

He said: ''I am quite convinced the officer had an experience that day and one that we have not fully explored.

''I think with the unusual movement of the being and the poltergeist experiences there is too much additional information to say that is something in nothing.''

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The True Story of Area 51's UFOs

In 1968, 31-year-old hypersonic flight specialist Thornton "T.D." Barnes reported to Groom Lake, the remote Southern Nevada military base also known as Area 51.



He began work on the CIA's top-secret Project OXCART. Over the next seven years, he and many of his colleagues knew one another only by aliases. For additional secrecy, several of them lived in California, commuting to work each day by plane.

Barnes' cover permitted him to go home to nearby Beatty, Nevada, but he couldn't tell his wife, Doris, what he did at work. She only knew that it was top-secret. His children knew even less. "They got used to it," he recalls. "They grew up not expecting me to talk shop when I came home. None of them knew until two years ago, when it was declassified."

He means the CIA's September 2007 declassification of its Groom Lake aircraft testing, new information in spite of which questions remain. To say the least. Area 51 still is heard in the same breath as Roswell, Amityville and Loch Ness.

Why?

Aerospace historian Michael Schratt suspects that extraterrestrial technology was utilized at Area 51 and remains secret "because it will make every man, woman and child on the planet energy independent." Schratt's theories gained some prominence in July 2007 when he produced the following photograph:
2009-11-06-Schratt.jpg

During a recent interview, Schratt told me that the picture in fact is "a computer-generated forensic composite" that he commissioned. [To see the undoctored original photo, click here.]

But there were UFOs at Area 51, according to Barnes.

"We were the UFOs," he says. "We were, to a great extent, the sightings being reported."

The flying objects in question include the family of spy planes known as Blackbirds, technological marvels that could fly at heights of 90,000 feet (or about three times the altitude of DC-9s more commonly seen in that era) and speeds near 2,500 mph (think ten football fields in a second), figures that decimated prior records and enabled U.S. reconnaissance photography that arguably tipped the balance of power in the Cold War. Also of note: Although conceived in the 1950s, the sleek jets would not look out of place in the latest George Lucas offering.

So it's little wonder that they were unidentifiable.

Says Barnes, "This posed a great problem to investigators having to explain a sighting without revealing it to be a super secret CIA or Air Force project."

Barnes and company were forced to conceive all manner of cover stories.

Now, with the declassification, he can tell the truth.

Currently President of the Area 51 alumni group Roadrunners Internationale, Barnes has started a website dedicated to the legacy of OXCART and the ensuing Operation Black Shield. "I am trying to make it possible for a lot of people who never got to tell their stories to do so now that the Oxcart project has been declassified," he told me.

For the same reason, he's spearheading an oral history project at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, enabling his fellow Roadrunners to share their experiences in great detail.

Like Barnes, many Roadrunners have children and grandchildren unaware of what they did for a living, let alone their heroics. When the tape starts to roll, Barnes relates, "A lot of them, on finally getting to share their stories, do so with such pent-up emotion that they literally break down in tears."

To hear the interviews, go to the UNLV digital collections. For more of OXCART and other war stories, check out www.roadrunnersinternationale.com. Barnes' own site is www.area51specialprojects.com.

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New campaign to explore UFO truths
Warning - irritating and repeating sound on this site which seems impossible to switch off
The Contact Zero Network's aims and goals are as follows:
I/. To foster, encourage and in most cases confront Governments and their intelligence agencies to support the disclosure of extraterrestrial and Ultra-Terrestrial related phenomena. The crescendo of such a process could be considered as Truth Amnesty.
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UFO investigations unit closed by Ministry of Defence
The Ministry of Defence has closed its UFO unit after more than 50 years of investigating reported UK sightings.
A hotline and e-mail address for the public to report possible sightings was shut on 1 December because it had no "defence value", the MoD said.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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UFO investigations unit closed by Ministry of Defence
The Ministry of Defence has closed its UFO unit after more than 50 years of investigating reported UK sightings.
A hotline and e-mail address for the public to report possible sightings was shut on 1 December because it had no "defence value", the MoD said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8395473.stm


No defence value when UFOs invade flying space with impunity all over the country all the year round? Who is the MOD trying to kid?
In a way though, perhaps it is right. After all, the MOD has no defence against UFOs, so why bother to monitor them? Pretend they don't exist. There are enough British suckers who will swallow the bait.
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Yes we do. Radar and the RAF.
Most UFOs in my opinion are our own being tested. At least in this part of the country.
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the MOD has no defence against UFOs, so why bother to monitor them? Pretend they don't exist.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

danny dyers on ufos
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Deny all knowledge: How the Ministry of Defence now handles reported UFO sightings.......
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: I know what I saw (2009) - UFO Doc. Reply with quote

Featuring pilot and passengers aboard Channel Island plane mentioned in first post.

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Hmm, didn't think UFO's were at all welcome here but for anyone with an open mind who may not have come across William Bramley's one and only book, may I recommend an online read of 'Gods of Eden', available here (minus a couple of vital pages and some very curious editing in places, eg p145):-

http://www.galaksija.com/literatura/William_Bramley_-_The_Gods_of_Eden .pdf

and a follow up question once read - Just who is Bramley? His approach to the criminality of fractional reserve banking is even more lucid than Quigley's, IMO

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Have aliens hijacked Voyager 2 ?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/wacky/have-aliens-hijacked-voyag er-2-spacecraft/story-e6frev20-1225865566982



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IT left Earth 33 years ago, now it's claimed the Voyager 2 spacecraft may have been hijacked by aliens after sending back data messages NASA scientists can't decode.

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Are aliens from outer space?

They exist on a different frequency, but those we see in the skies .....? Na..

Look at the body scanning, google photographing our front doors, face scanning etc, why?

Try the drones...

And of course when they shift their hellfire missile armed drones over our own skies which begin to assassinate targets....its the aliens did it guv.

Government not liable....


Try this for starters :

http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=6984

Then take a peak here :

http://www.lifeinthemix.co.uk/ufo_s_extraterrestri.html

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THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND UFO'S


For yet more proof that the whole UFO idea is a scam just take a look at how Bush’s gang have further played the psychological game against those who are desperate to be ‘SAVED’ by Jesus in a spaceship, Saved because they cannot be arsed to face their own nonsense and save themselves from treading the path of imbalance? If there was ever a government ripe for war with an extraterrestrial saviour race…this administration is surely it. I mean come on, even NASA release Hubble shots with parts of the picture missing, if NASA was covering up…it would in no way place Hubble shots on the web with such blatant signs of cover up!!!. Wake up wise up people and see the * this dead end search for outer space saviours will bring, it will place you directly into the hands of the numpties that have created this scam…Those who are instilling the New World Order. Looking at this next mind control soap opera below has me wetting myself in that there are so many of you out there desperate to be whisked off into celestial ecstasy. So take a look at ‘Dallas’ through the George Bush presidency as it relates to the biggest scam outside the creation of the business plan we call the Bible…

Vice-President Dick Cheney recently returned to the UFO capitol of the world - Roswell, New Mexico. It was his first trip there since a visit there during the waning days of the 2000 Presidential campaign.

During his first Roswell visit in late October 2000, newspapers reported,

"Cheney was greeted by a sign that depicted a little green man with a heart and the name ‘Cheney’—as in ‘Space Aliens Love Cheney.’" Because Cheney had been a former Secretary of Defence, many within the UFO community speculated that the visit might have been a hint at an upcoming UFO disclosure. Even the October 26, 2000 New York Times noted the extraterrestrial significance of the Cheney stopover with its headline "The Alien Factor: and Out in Roswell."

Another reason for the Ufological optimism was that the 2000 Roswell visit by Cheney occurred shortly after the now infamous meeting between presidential candidate George W. Bush and Arkansas native Charles Huffer. It was during that July 2000 campaign encounter that Huffer asked George Bush if he were elected President would he disclose,

"the truth about UFOs." Bush in reply stated "Sure. I will... It will be the first thing he (pointing to Cheney) will do. He’ll get right on it."…But first we have to get Sue-Ellen back on the wagon!

Therefore, when Cheney arrived in Roswell a few months later, many thought it was a sign of positive things to come. Cheney, to the disappointment of many UFO watchers, simply made his speech with no mention of E.T.s or anything remotely close, and flew on to Wyoming. Disclosure didn’t come, but the UFO hopefuls still remained optimistic.

The latest October 2002 visit by Cheney to Roswell also came with signs that this too could be a nod and a wink to the UFO community. Instead of speaking at the town hall as he had in 2000, Cheney chose to speak to the 3,000 faithful inside Hanger 32 at the Roswell Industrial Air Center. (Formally Roswell Army Air Field) This hanger, of course, is just a hop and a skip down the tarmac from Hanger 84 where the Roswell alien bodies were rumoured to have been stored following the now famous 1947 Roswell weather balloon crash. You know those bodies that no man has ever seen?

The most recent visit to the old Roswell Air Base also closely mimicked the visit a fellow Republican, and former president, Ronald Reagan made to the base for a campaign speech for then Senator Harrison Schmitt in 1982. Like Cheney, Reagan made a short stopover Roswell speech in late October, just prior to the mid-term election.

Like the Cheney visits, the Reagan visit to the Roswell Air Base also stirred up the UFO community, occurring only months after Steven Spielberg had visited the White House and had given a private screening of "E.T.: The Extraterrestrial" for Reagan and three dozen of his close friends and colleagues. While giving his Roswell speech, Reagan always prepared to play to the audience, even mentioned the popular "E.T." in his speech.

That’s the good news. Now for the bad news.

From the beginning of the Bush administration, the promise made to Charles Huffer for UFO disclosure appeared to quickly fade to a distant memory. Once in office the President Bush did not make UFOs the first thing "Cheney would do." In fact, all evidence pointed to the fact that the Bush White House did nothing on the UFO front. Worse in fact, in light of perceived threats from every direction, the Bush administration made new riveting cold-war style secrecy the order of the day. This new secrecy was not exactly amenable to UFO disclosure.

Moreover, Dick Cheney was asked during an April 2001 WashingtonD.C. open line show,

"If he had ever been briefed on the subjects of UFOs, and if so what had he been told." His reply seemed to put out the final embers of the UFO disclosure fire. "If I had been briefed on UFOs," replied Cheney, "it probably would have been classified, and I wouldn’t be talking about it." Hush hush wink wink, that oat-a get um even more suspicious…old J.R Cheney playing the sheep very well indeed, the mere mention of ‘TOP SECRET’ has their antenna in super drive.

So it was that when Cheney arrived at the Roswell Air Base last month, where in 1947 pieces of the first recovered flying saucer were loaded on planes for Wright-Patterson AFB, you know those parts that no man has ever seen… his only objectives appeared to be the same as they were in when he visited in October 2000 -- votes and money.

The Cheney agenda while in Roswell turned out to be one that would make any extraterrestrial grimace. His 15-minute prepared speech centred on war and the latest international boogieman Saddam Hussein, issues that have elevated the Republicans high in the polls. (Likewise Saddam Hussein playing the same game - has a popularity rating in his own country in the high nineties) "Saddam Hussein, Cheney, "or, for the sake of peace, the United States will disarm him."…the E.T.’s said so.

The second item on the Cheney Roswell itinerary was oil and money. In support of Steve Pearce, 2nd Congressional District Candidate, Cheney was a featured guest at the home of Roswell oilman George Yates, chairman and chief executive officer of HEYCO Energy Group. About 250 guests each shelling out $250 attended. Cheney, who had spent many days in the past year hiding at an unknown location, was now freely visible and available for photo sessions with couples that were willing to put up $1,000 for anal sex. And so it was for the Cheney visit to Roswell. He had been flown to some super base in the sky for instructions on how to tell fibs more better…

And so it is for elections, and the campaign visits that precede them. They are in the end about votes, and how to get them. It is the person with the most votes who wins - not the candidate with the best plan to save the world by telling all those who exist in the fantasy of escapism...ET wares Levi jeans and Diesel aftershave. Wrong…it is the man for whom the electronic voting machines want in power…all controlled by Spock from the Starship Enterprise…or is it Babylon Five…we do not know, it is ‘Top Secret’.

Opinion polls that measure the "what can you do for me factor" in the electorate, are important despite the words of former Canadian Prime Minister John Diefenbaker who reportedly said, "Dogs know what to do with polls."…I think this is code for ‘GODS’ know, I am waiting for my telepathic instructions…Beam me up Spielberg…

Getting the most votes takes convincing the people that you best represent the opinions reflected in the latest pole. It then takes money to get that image to the voters with advertising, TV commercials, and the like. ($80.00 per voter is being spent in South Dakota) It also takes the proper strategy such as sending in your big guns into close races at exactly the right time to win the marginal vote, as both parties are doing at the closing bell.

A few years back former President of Penn State University, Dr. Eric Walker, hinted in interviews that he knew quite a bit about the UFO situation at the highest level. In addition, he hinted that he had been there in 1947, as policies were being developed to deal with the UFO situation. This is code for, “I was told about the film Close Encounters while on the roof of the Empire State Building”.

Dr. Walker was asked who made up the group that controlled UFO policy. His reply spoke of "invited" rather than "elected." "They are a group of elite," he stated. "If you were invited into this group I would know." Again we have code for , “It is the Jedi Knights operating with Captain Kirk and his understudy Will Smith”, “Its Top Secret…Classified…That means keep looking at the classified section of the new York Times, The code will be ‘ebbe jeebbees, over and out”.

In eight years of contact with various researchers Dr. Walker never indicated that politicians were involved. He stated that the group was international in nature, and that one would need the "mind of Einstein" to understand it. Perhaps as Walker hinted, politicians are not, and have never been a part of the UFO cover-up. They may simply be pawns like the rest of us. This again is code for Prawns, these are the alien abductors claiming to be politicians, you cannot miss um, they smile a lot and bomb innocent people who have no weapons and have a better sun tan, they say it is because they would not purchase factor 44 and the abductor politicians are jealous because these poor innocent people are not afraid to sunbathe…Ooops I shouldn’t be telling you this …its Top Secret…that ell get um goin Ssshhh.

Politicians, after all are people doing a job, unless of course they are extraterrestrials in disguise, you can get a better idea of this if you go to David Boyle's exhibition...if any of the extraterrestrials have disappeared from his exhibition, then you know they are incognito somewhere in the White House. That job involves following the polls at the lap dancing clubs to attract the greatest number of votes, because re-election, and thereby continued power and influence, is the name of the game. Find out what people want for Christmas, and then promise to buy it for them with their own money, and post it down the chimney without getting their red suite dirty.

These are items that find no parallel in UFO research. Consequently, public support has never materialised for UFOs, because the public does not yet see any financial or security gain coming from disclosure. UFOs do not yet look like a Christmas present, too big for the wrapping paper!

UFOs would not be in the top hundred concerns in opinion polls, as they do not yet represent an economic or security concern, because we have Will Smith and his Scientology Army which includes Ethan Cruise, so we are well safe. It is real issues that now dominate the polls, so we shall have to wait until more nob nuts join in our fantasy. This is code for “only a few idiots have sucked into the scam…not enough to completely colonise sector 69, you know the planet were they make all the porn”.

In addition, the UFO disclosure movement suffers from the fact their are very few financial backers to the finance of the 21st century UFO political campaign, and the Extraterrestrials refuse to leave David Boyle's Exhibition because they are warm and they like to use the Pleasure beach when everybody has gone home. This is because the money behind many present day politicians (oil industry, military, legal firms, business, and big stock holders) is tied into the "old economy" – the one the UFO technology will leave behind. People are motivated by self-interest –surprise, surprise! This technology makes aircraft carriers from cat poo…so go and buy a cat and store as much as you can so you are ready for the invasion of the good guys, you will know who they are, they all have beards and wear Jesus sandals.

Politicians are transitory figures who come and go especially if they get caught doing tantric sexual practices in the toilets. The president, for example, has a term of no more than eight years. The UFO phenomenon, by all indications, is a long-term problem faced by those who hold the reins. It is therefore not logically a problem that would ever been handed over to a bunch of short-term politicians who are here today and gone tomorrow, Unless you are called George Herbert Bush or Tony Blair. It is also hardly the type of problem that could be dealt with by referring to opinion polls especially after greasy girls have been doing their thing, for guidance. “So now you know why we have a secret government and why all these wars have to be started …it is to protect all the cats so we have enough poo when the time is right…this is why they have dog wardens, so the dogs cannot kill all the cats

Wilbert Smith, (code for Will Smith) who directed the Canadian government’s classified UFO study from 1950-1954, described the politician’s UFO dilemma in a paper he wrote to describe why the government covered up the UFO phenomena. It was to stop it getting dirt on it because the cat poo doesn’t work properly if you haven’t washed them properly with domestos.

"Politicians have two interests in life; first to win an election, and second, to do as good a job as possible of representing their constituency and having lots of clandestine sexual encounters so they can accumulate the energy they need to tell lies to all the people…this is the way they manage deception to practice for the cover up. So have pity on them when the next one is found in the toilets with a monkey and a spanner…he is doing it for the good of the people.

Neither of these could be considered as embracing flying saucer investigation, because they were in fact knives and forks. True, a member of the house may ask questions about flying saucers, suggest that something might be done about their study, or even introduce a bill to take definite action, but without strong public support the result is only so much more wordage in the official record, and as long as they can keep the secret it was the knives and forks…the world is safe, unless you are one of those people with the sun tan I was telling you about earlier. Furthermore, because of the type of publicity from which the whole flying saucer subject has suffered, politicians who are naturally very sensitive to public reaction are reluctant to stick their necks out. (In case they get hit with the knives and forks) In light of the foregoing reasoning I feel that we need not expect any significant statement with respect to flying saucers by any government agency."


This is the true signal that should be perceived from the recent Cheney visit to the holiest of all UFO shrines. Like Reagan before him, Cheney was simply a politician doing his job. (killing all those sun tan people) That job was to come to the aid of a congressional seat that was close and therefore winnable. Furthermore, being a prominent figure he used his prominence to help gather the millions in campaign funds needed to win elections and gain political power.

Once gas tops $20.00/gal., or once pollution creates major damage to the U.S.UFOs might move onto the electors "Christmas wish list." The election of 2002 is, however, still dominated by the oil-generated economy and short-term public concerns about the amount of cat poo really available and not the projected figures…we need facts ladies and gentleman not fantasy!

The future is not all bleak, however. Disclosure is not dead yet. Today as President George Bush made a last minute swing through the American Midwest stumping for Republican candidates, he ran across the man who started it all – UFO Charles Huffer. As Bush prepared to get on bored Air Force One after snorting a kilo of cocaine, Huffer stuck out his hand and reminded him of the July 2000 promise to release "the truth on UFOs." They can produce lots of cat poo, Ronald Reagan has been breeding them in secret, hip hip hurray.

Huffer asked him if the promise still held. Bush’s answer was "Yes, Ron is up to his eyeballs in the stuff, and he bloody well stinks too"

In an E-mail to this author Huffer recounted the event.


"Today as This afternoon, 4 November 2002, President George W. Bush attended a Republican Campaign Rally at the Northwest Regional Airport (XNA) in Northwest Arkansas. After the rally was over, while on the way to Air Force One, after snorting a kilo of cocaine and anointing himself with Siamese cat poo, President Bush shook hands with some of the people at the rally, they were not very happy because the cat in question had a curry the night before…so you can imagine?. My hand was one of those. (I have not washed it to this day) I took the opportunity to remind President Bush that he had promised ME over two years ago that he would tell us the truth about UFOs, and where we could get the good poo.. I then asked if he intended to keep that promise. He answered: ‘Yes’", we may not have any bananas but by jiminy, we are full of *.

"Unfortunately, this time I did not have my recorder with me so this report is no better than hearsay. But it did happen, I have the smell to prove it."

See what I mean people, this whole * stinks to the high heavens…honest Yoda told me!!!

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"God will not answer the supplication of one neither of another tribe, for God is God of ALL. God leaves mankind to the fate they create for themselves. Following the paths that lead away FROM Paradice man corrupts The Covenant and creates laws* that breed discrimination. From generation to generation man has lengthened the path to God until the sight of Him is lost beyond space. With the aid of mechanics and chemistry man has created Shekhenah** (the illusion of his own greatness) and the [inner] Voice has thus fallen into self-delusion.

* Malachi 2:8-9 - "Ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the Covenant; ye have been biased in the Law."

** Shekhenah - "Manifestation of the Glory of the Lord." Ex. 33:23 "Thou shalt see my back parts, but my face shall not be seen."

"With filth and dung have ye besmirched one another's characters until the last sign of recognition has fallen from your countenance and the mark of the beast alone remains to testify against ye."

"The eyes of man see the great acts of the Lord everywhere and the ears hear His Wonders, still he turns away from His Face and goes the way of the adversary (Lucifer - Satan). Man loves to be honoured and worshipped by the lesser breed, and revel in sins swaying the sceptre of death over his own kith and kin, in making them subjects to himself (instead of to God).

"Each generation testifies to the follies of their many creations; yea, how the mighty have fallen and their weapons of war perish; still the eyes of man are held that they cannot see abomination. Not content with the only God man sets up idols of heroes, created by fancy, and raises monuments and statues to their honour, following in the ways of corruption that all human rulers sow - for he who is with God takes no honour to himself. To God alone be Glory, even unto Him Who is our Abba, the Father of all.
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'Churchill, Eisenhower covered up RAF plane's UFO encounter'
PTI, Aug 5, 2010, 04.07pm IST
LONDON: Britain's wartime Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill and American General Dwight Eisenhower had agreed to cover up an encounter between a Royal Air Force aircraft and a unidentified flying object (UFO) during World War II, declassified documents have revealed.
According to the declassified Ministry of Defence files, Churchill had allegedly ordered that the unexplained incident over the east coast of England should be kept secret for at least 50 years because it would provoke "mass panic".
The claim, recounted in declassified MoD files, was made by a scientist who said that his grandfather was a Churchill aide, the 'Daily Mail' reported....
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/Churchill-Eisenhower-cover ed-up-RAF-planes-UFO-encounter/articleshow/6261355.cms

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Today we fully understand we have not just a shadow government, but a shadow military, Intelligence, scientific agenda etc....

We know the same shadow groups enabled 911 and 777.

I have seen a document which claims the first human clone was birthed in 1927 in Germany, and it lived.

This being the case, then it stands to reason given the massive use the same shadow elite have, in the UFO's are coming script, that the same shadow government would use its flying discs to confound the military and governments and make the scam real.

Not only that, but they have just announced the fact they have created touchable holograms, which as you all know means they have had it for years and are now ready to announce the technology :

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8c8_1279519465

If this technology is as it is portrayed, then to be touchable would also prove the same for radar, radar would see the holograms, and those looking at the radar would indeed see an UFO-unidentified flying object, itself having no reflection on aliens, it is just an object in flight unidentified by all.

Project Bluebeam

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The one thing you should keep in mind in relation to all these holograms, is the 'LACK OF SOUND', there is no sound whatever in relation to either UFO's or these meteor showers. This operation is known as;

'PROJECT BLUEBEAM' and these holographic satellite projectors are also able to place holograms of, 'JESUS, KRISHNA, MOHAMED, and BUDDHA' to excite the populations to except the Anunnaki as the representatives of each respective prophet.

The plan is to create the idea that we are being invaded by an extraterrestrial race from beyond so the Illuminati can force the world together and complete the New World Order, this is known as 'PROJECT PANIC' and was tested with the radio announcement called 'WAR OF THE WORLDS' in America quite some years ago... whereby they announced to the American public they were under attack from an Extraterrestrial race...it worked.


So we know they have a giant holographic Star Wars system, what for exactly ?

Quote Henry kissinger :

“Today America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told that there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all the peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil.”

“The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.”

But this use of an outside threat is older than you would think...

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This idea of external Extraterrestrial threat was first spoken to the best of my knowledge in 1917 by the Marxist John Dewey.

William Cooper was not killed while he exposed UFO's, he was killed after he announced, he himself had been used, and fought against the idea of UFO invasion, so this agenda is big and has been set up over a long period of time...why?

If the governments of the world can blame UFO's for all the things the drones are set to carry out....Bingo....no culpability.

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http://www.lifeinthemix.co.uk/ufo_s_extraterrestri.html



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The (alleged) Truth behind the Lockheed F19 Aurora scramjet.

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To understand the lights and stuff, you need to understand scalar technology, but more to the point, how long they have been playing with it :

Understanding Scalar Technology : The Invisible Enemy

Of course if you dig into scalar you get the barrage of green men in the mix come to fight Will Smith after his challenge to the universal ET's in his flick called ; 'Kock film...O sorry Independence Day... so read between the lines and remember none of the alien mouthpieces who spew this grab have ever seen one their self, they are always some bod said, and some bod did....

http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=16267

Look what I can do....images??

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Double post, apologies.

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Wanting that technology and actually having it for anything useful are two different things, Life. This of course maybe their dream but not reality, because they are prisoners here.

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This suggests that the ancients had a far greater knowledge of the energy grid than the general populations and indeed the intelligencia of today, and more, it suggests they also had a greater knowledge of the outer universe and how to utilise the natural energy of the whole. The information available suggests the ancients used Crystals to store and transmit energy, unlike the fossil and nuclear we use today.

So on those foundations to look at all the Churches, Cathedrals, palaces and castles; we can see that the post flood elite have also understood this knowledge while keeping the man on the street ignorant of such knowledge, so my question is... what have they done with that knowledge in the last 7000 years?



The Book of Enoch (Idris) the Prophet; Noah and Archangel Prince Michael.

9:4 Thou hast made all things; Thou possessest power over all things; and all things are open and manifest before Thee. Thou beholdest all things, and nothing can be concealed from Thee (Mark 4:22).
9:5 Thou hast seen what Azazyel has done, how he has taught every species of iniquity upon Earth, and has disclosed to the world all the secret things which are done in the heavens.

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HEAVENS - Political systems (above the mountains)
MOUNTAIN - Government - (Micah 4 v 1)


"what have they done with that knowledge in the last 7000 years?"

They have none that is of any use to them.
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They have none that is of any use to them.


Nuclear technology?

Bio-weapons (possibly used in Middle Ages Europe)

All Tesla's patents? Leading to...

Noway Spiral?

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Bio-weapons (possibly used in Middle Ages Europe)

All Tesla's patents?


Thats not going to save them is it.
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I have come to understand the reality of history repeating, thus suggesting cycles, which gives ease to prophesy, ergo the Bible.

With this wisdom to then parallel today with that towards the end of the last epoch is not off the mark, albeit a replica in today's creation, the same spiritual conundrum is once again at the door of man, support the murderer or the man of mutual respect...

both reside within all man

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Rockefeller Aliens



The CIA’s mind control experiments under the Human Ecology Fund were replaced by groups such as the Human Potential Foundation funded by Laurence Rockefeller. Laurence also funds UFO research. In 1999 the New York Daily News ran a report about Laurence’s UFO funding. “Michael Luckman, director of the New York Center for UFO Research, says the Rockefeller report entitled ‘The Best Available Evidence,’ “features testimony from former military officials and astronauts that contradicts Air Force denials of an alien landing.”

UFO Funds http://www.earthchangestv.com/ufo/0611rockefellar.htm

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Laurence has funded “Dr. John Mack, the Harvard psychiatrist famous for his book on so-called ‘alien abductions’.”

“Greens and Greys [Linking Alien Presence to Environmentalism] “… intelligences of the highest power are absolutely appalled that this one species is so out of control, so insensitive to the living ecosystem of the earth…” — Dr. John Mack, Harvard Psychiatrist….Mack’s bridge between UFOs and ecology is evident in a recent book of articles compiled by the Sierra Club. Entitled Ecopsychology, Mack asks: “How do we invent a new psychology of our relationship to the earth?”

Critics accuse Mack of founding a new religion in the “green politics” of the aliens. His response that he “cannot help it if this is the communication coming through,”….Laurence Rockefeller also funds the Green Earth Foundation headed by Terence McKenna. McKenna scouts the globe collecting psychoactive plants, which he is permitted to cultivate in Hawaii. One of McKenna’s theories is that psychoactive substances used by native cultures in religious ceremonies induce telepathic links with alien cultures. He believes the patriarchal “dominator” cultures of the past few thousand years have failed us and the earth, and calls for an “archaic revival”, which requires a return to humanity’s last “sane” moment 15,000 years ago on the plains of Africa “rocked in the cradle of the great horned mushroom goddess.”

Human Potential Foundation [Global Mind - Change Potential] The Human Potential Foundation (HPF), founded by U.S. Senator Claiborne Pell and based in Falls Church, Virginia, is another project funded primarily by Laurence Rockefeller.

According to Dick Farley, who worked for the organisation for about three years, Rockefeller’s interest in HPF seemed to be the promotion of “alternative religious and psychiatric/psychological paradigms, including so-called ‘UFOs’ and ‘abductions,’ having ‘Global Mind Change’ potentials. Rockefeller put more than $700,000 through the ‘HPF’ from 1991 to 1994, as Common Cause Magazine recently reported.”

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I bet the Raelians will be annoyed about this. Which embassy will the fake aliens contact first?
United Nations to appoint space ambassador to act as first contact for aliens visiting Earth
If aliens ever land on Earth there will no longer be any confusion over who will greet them with the news the United Nations is set to appoint an astrophysicist to be their first human contact.
Mazlan Othman is expected to be tasked with coordinating humanity's response to an extraterrestrial visit, if ever required.
The 58-year-old Malaysian will tell a conference next week that with the recent discovery of hundreds of planets orbiting around other stars, the detection of alien life is becoming more and more likely.
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Well it looks like they are really going to play out this script...

Just think, we are to have a United Nations ambassador to the Death Star, I wonder who it could be....

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Life wrote:
Well it looks like they are really going to play out this script...

Just think, we are to have a United Nations ambassador to the Death Star, I wonder who it could be....

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How many people are going to fall for some projected cinema show, or some man made aircraft designed to look like a space ship?
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How many people are going to fall for some projected cinema show, or some man made aircraft designed to look like a space ship?


Plenty - enough to cause global chaos - here's a rather extreme and no doubt 'bias edited' clip to reinforce my view:-


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