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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:14 am    Post subject: Bush decree - All War Protest In US Outlawed Reply with quote

Bush Outlaws All War Protest In United States

By Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
7-19-7

Full article at: http://www.rense.com/

In one of his most chilling moves to date against his own citizens, the American War Leader has issued a sweeping order this week outlawing all forms of protest against the Iraq war.

President Bush enacted into US law an 'Executive Order' on July 17th titled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq", and which says:

"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)(IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)(NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that, due to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, it is in the interests of the United States to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, and expanded in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, and Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004."
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As a commentator on the article asks:

How does the Secretary of the Treasury feel about a t-shirt that says, 'Stop the War?' Is such a T-shirt considered destabilizing?

Does any one else have severe chills running up his or her spine?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.rense.com/general77/seiz.htm
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just watched BBC News 24's news and staggeringly its bulletin contained no mention of this.

Instead its lead story was about how Bush has now signed into law legislation which outlaws torture and cruel or degrading treatment by US personnel in prisons, including Guantanamo Bay and Iraq. "Three cheers for Bush and the US constitution," is the implication of that story. However, in slightly more in depth analysis they did interview a spokeswoman from a US human rights organisation who pointed out that though this order outlaws torture it legitimises the "disappearing" of suspects. US authorities will not divulge to their families or anyone else who they are holding in custody without trial or charge.

Fascism has truly arrived in the States.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fact this alleged measure is so staggeringly draconian, and its complete absence from mainstream newschannels so strange, that I would like to see some evidence corroborating the story on Rense before believing it is true.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:22 am    Post subject: Is It All Over - How Can We Stop Them Now? Reply with quote

30 DAYS TO ABSOLUTE TYRANNY!
Latest Bush Executive Order Kills Your 5th Amendment Right to Own Property

In an as yet un-numbered Executive Order (at least the number isn't published), president bush has decreed that your property - all of it - can be taken away at the sole discretion of the Secretary of the Treasury at the mere suspicion that you may commit a crime in the future. You can view and read this latest executive atrocity at the White House website.

If you own a business, this concerns you. Whether you own it as a sole proprietorship, as a sole shareholder, or even as a partial shareholder of a corporation, you stand to lose all of it if the Secretary thinks you may commit an "act of violence" that may disrupt the war (or peace) effort in Iraq. Naturally, "act of violence" is not defined anywhere in this order.

Once this becomes law, he has all the tools Hitler and Stalin had to keep their respective populations in utter subjection to their will.

The executive order states in Section 1(a) that “all property and interests in property” of “any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of - blah, blah, blah (followed by a laundry list of “purposes or effects”).

This means that the triggering factor underlying any such blocking order is a mere “determination” by the Secretary of the Treasury that you pose a “significant risk” of committing an act of violence in the future that has any of the listed purposes or effects. All the Secretary then has to do is to “consult” with the secretaries of state and defense. There is not even a requirement that these two agree with the Treasury Secretary’s “determination”(!)

In other words, if the Secretary of the Treasury says that you “pose a significant risk” of committing an act of violence with the purpose or effect of “threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq; or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people”, then the 'bushprez' can block you from accessing your bank account, retirement account, credit cards, or “any property or interest in property” that you may own.

That technically includes your house, whether owned or rented, your car or other means of transportation, whether owned or rented, your business, all the way down to your cell phone, toothpaste and underwear, as well as the twenty bucks you loaned your buddy that he hasn’t paid you back yet.

What is there to keep the Secretary of the Treasury from “determining” that you, because you oppose the war in Iraq, are probably one of those extremist hooligans who protested the WTO in Seattle a few years back, or that you are likely to act like one of them even though you haven’t even participated in those riots? War protesters do these things, don’t they? They are all the same, aren’t they?

If the Secretary “determines” that you probably are one of them and that you “pose a significant risk of committing” an act of violence intended to frustrate the war (or even the peace effort) in Iraq, all of your stuff can be taken away from you - or you can be “blocked” from accessing it, which pretty much amounts to the same thing.

You have no legal recourse under this order. No remedy at law. The order does not provide for compensation to you for the taking of your property. There is no due process requirement that will guarantee you a fair hearing in a court of law.

Unconstitutional? You bet!

But you can’t complain about it.

Why is that?

The president has declared a state of emergency back in 2003 (as he recites in this executive order at the end of the paragraph that starts with “I, GEORGE W. BUSH”). That state of emergency has not been rescinded, to this date.

In a state of emergency, the president has the power to do whatever he wants, and you can’t complain - or else.

This is the clear, logical consequence of Americans’ acquiescing to their government claiming the right to pursue the anti-Christian doctrine of preemptive war.

If the president can launch a war against another country in order to prevent a potential, as yet unrealized future attack, then he can also prosecute a potential criminal at home - or confiscate ALL of his property - for acts that the prez (or his Secretary) simply “determine” might be committed in the future.

We are talking about the imposition, by executive order, of absolute, unrestricted tyranny and despotism in the name of “national security.”

Does this mean he will take your property away from you?

Not necessarily.

But you just gave him (or any future president) the power to do so at any time in the future if he (or she) think it may be a good idea!

Yes, it is you who gave him that power - because you didn’t do anything about it.

No point in blaming anybody else. It’s you who is at fault. If you sit back and wait for somebody else to act on your behalf, you have just given up any legitimate claim to your own right to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness.

Are you going to act?

Better stand up.

If you are a Christian, stand up.

If you are a Democrat, stand up.

If you are a Republican, even a Neocon who thinks the president would never do such a thing -

STAND UP!!

This is no time for playing party politics. If continuing the war in Iraq is more important to you than even the very last shred of your own liberty, then what’s the point in fighting the Jihadists? You have already acquiesced to live exactly the way they want you to live - namely, without any rights, whatsoever.

The only difference is the rhetoric used as justification for your enslavement. Bush uses rhetoric that appeals to US right-wingers, while the Jihadists use rhetoric that appeals to fundamentalist Muslims.

The result is the same.

Now, who is the enemy?

They both are. Each uses the other as justification for imposing a tyrannical regime onto you and everybody else. If you are an American and you value your Liberty, I don’t care what side of the phony political spectrum you currently occupy.

STAND UP!!

An executive order only becomes law if Congress doesn’t overturn it within thirty days after it is published in the Federal Register.

You can still prevent this order from becoming law - and I mean YOU! Not the guy next to you, not your representative in Congress. YOU must act NOW - or it’s all too late.

Call your two Senators. Call your Congressman. RAISE HELL! - but for God’s sake, don’t go out into the streets and smash in store windows to vent your frustration. That would deliver the perfect excuse for Bush to take your stuff away from you, or to have you arrested as a “terrorist” under the Military Commissions Act.

It’s your last chance. If you let this one slip by you, it’s all over with freedom.

One last point that I can’t resist making: If you trust any candidate for president in 2008 to voluntarily rescind this order after he or she becomes president, you ought to have your head examined. They all love the power it gives them. Only Ron Paul will actually do it - and you know that is true!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can stop them becuase the soverign rights of human beings do not derive from bits of paper
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bush Executive Order: Criminalizing the Antiwar Movement


by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, July 20, 2007



The Executive Order entitled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq" provides the President with the authority to confiscate the assets of whoever opposes the US led war.
A presidential Executive Order issued on July 17th, repeals with the stroke of a pen the right to dissent and to oppose the Pentagon's military agenda in Iraq.

The Executive Order entitled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq" provides the President with the authority to confiscate the assets of "certain persons" who oppose the US led war in Iraq:

"I have issued an Executive Order blocking property of persons determined to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people."

In substance, under this executive order, opposing the war becomes an illegal act.

The Executive Order criminalizes the antiwar movement. It is intended to "blocking property" of US citizens and organizations actively involved in the peace movement. It allows the Department of Defense to interfere in financial affairs and instruct the Treasury to "block the property" and/or confiscate/ freeze the assets of "Certain Persons" involved in antiwar activities. It targets those "Certain Persons" in America, including civil society organizatioins, who oppose the Bush Administration's "peace and stability" program in Iraq, characterized, in plain English, by an illegal occupation and the continued killing of innocent civilians.

The Executive Order also targets those "Certain Persons" who are "undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction", or who, again in plain English, are opposed to the confiscation and privatization of Iraq's oil resources, on behalf of the Anglo-American oil giants.




The order is also intended for anybody who opposes Bush's program of "political reform in Iraq", in other words, who questions the legitimacy of an Iraqi "government" installed by the occupation forces.

Moreover, those persons or nongovernmental organizations (NGOs), who provide bona fide humanitarian aid to Iraqi civilians, and who are not approved by the US Military or its lackeys in the US sponsored Iraqi puppet government are also liable to have their financial assets confiscated.

The executive order violates the First, Fourth and Fifth Amendments of the US Constitution. It repeals one of the fundamental tenets of US democracy, which is the right to free expression and dissent. The order has not been the object of discussion in the US Congress. Sofar, it has not been addressed by the US antiwar movement, in terms of a formal statement.

Apart from a bland Associated Press wire report, which presents the executive order as "an authority to use financial sanctions", there has been no media coverage or commentary of a presidential decision which strikes at the heart of the US Constitution..

Broader implications

The criminalization of the State is when the sitting President and Vice President use and abuse their authority through executive orders, presidential directives or otherwise to define "who are the criminals" when in fact they they are the criminals.

This latest executive order criminalizes the peace movement. It must be viewed in relation to various pieces of "anti-terrorist" legislation, the gamut of presidential and national security directives, etc., which are ultimately geared towards repealing constitutional government and installing martial law in the event of a "national emergency".

The war criminals in high office are intent upon repressing all forms of dissent which question the legitimacy of the war in Iraq.

The executive order combined with the existing anti-terrorist legislation is eventually intended to be used against the anti-war and civil rights movements. It can be used to seize the assets of antiwar groups in America as well as block the property and activities of non-governmental humanitarian organizations providing relief in Iraq, seizing the assets of alternative media involved in a reporting the truth regarding the US-led war, etc.

In May 2007, Bush issued a major presidential National Security Directive (National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive NSPD 51/HSPD 20), which would suspend constitutional government and instate broad dictatorial powers under martial law in the case of a "Catastrophic Emergency" (e.g. Second 9/11 terrorist attack).

On July 11, 2007 the CIA published its "National Intelligence Estimate" which pointed to an imminent Al Qaeda attack on America, a second 9/11 which, according to the terms of NSPD 51, would immediately be followed by the suspension of constitutional government and the instatement of martial law under the authority of the president and the vice-president. (For further details, see Michel Chossudovsky, Bush Directive for a "Catastrophic Emergency" in America: Building a Justification for Waging War on Iran? June 2007)

NSPD 51 grants unprecedented powers to the Presidency and the Department of Homeland Security, overriding the foundations of Constitutional government. It allows the sitting president to declare a “national emergency” without Congressional approval. The implementation of NSPD 51 would lead to the de facto closing down of the Legislature and the militarization of justice and law enforcement.

"The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government...."

Were NSPD 51 to be invoked, Vice President Dick Cheney, who constitutes the real power behind the Executive, would essentially assume de facto dictatorial powers, circumventing both the US Congress and the Judiciary, while continuing to use President George W. Bush as a proxy figurehead.

NSPD 51, while bypassing the Constitution, nonetheless, envisages very precise procedures which guarantee the powers of Vice President Dick Cheney in relation to "Continuity of Goverment" functions under Martial Law:

"This directive shall be implemented in a manner that is consistent with, and facilitates effective implementation of, provisions of the Constitution concerning succession to the Presidency or the exercise of its powers, and the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 (3 U.S.C. 19), with consultation of the Vice President and, as appropriate, others involved. Heads of executive departments and agencies shall ensure that appropriate support is available to the Vice President and others involved as necessary to be prepared at all times to implement those provisions." (NSPD 51, op cit.)

The executive order to confiscate the assets of antiwar/peace activists is broadly consistent with NSPD 51. It could be triggered even in the absence of a "Catastrophic emergency" as envisaged under NSPD 51. It repeals democracy. It goes one step further in "criminalizing" all forms of opposition and dissent. to the US led war and "Homeland Security" agenda.



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TEXT OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDER --

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6377
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Difficult for non-Americans living in other countries to stop them! The best I think we can do is publicise it - get it all over the web and pronto.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html


There it is in all its glory Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WyldeChylde wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html


There it is in all its glory Crying or Very sad


There going to be stopping all stop the war demos in this country soon, once the undercover cops have caused trouple at the peace marches.
and then after that they will stop all gatherings as well, you better belevie it folks they are facsits, and THE NEW WORLD ORDER will turn the U.S. & U.K. into a Police State /Marshal Law.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xmasdale wrote:
In fact this alleged measure is so staggeringly draconian, and its complete absence from mainstream newschannels so strange, that I would like to see some evidence corroborating the story on Rense before believing it is true.

Why on Earth does it surprise you so much? This has been a gradual process over six or more years. Do you not listen to Alex Jones or a multitude of other commentators screaming that this was coming? It is only going to get worse unless they are stopped and only a mass awareness can possibly do that. It may already be too late. Ron Paul is perhaps our only hope.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The actual legislation is so open ended and non-specific it could implicate anyone or any act, even wearing an anti-war button badge.......
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of Ron Paul. In a fair contest he would win the Presidential nomination but writing articles like this below he is more likely to be eliminated.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what are the countless people in the world (and more particularly the US) of good heart going to do now?

Sit back and say 'Oh well'?

An alternative of course is to make citizens arrest of the prime suspects _before_ they adopt even more aggressive measures

I don't even know why we are all still just talking...

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I've spent a lot of today ringing around mainstream news outlets trying to find out why it hasn't been covered.

I either got 'yep, sounds interesting, we'll look into it, bye' or 'well the reason i think it hasn't been covered is that it doesn't effect us as a country'...

But George Bush's handing of power to Cheney is of the same vein then surely??


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However, I did receive a reply from a man called Ben Leapman at the Telegraph:

Thanks for pointing this out, Liam.



Looks interesting, but I'm not sure I quite grasp Chossudovsky's interpretation of the executive order as potentially targeting the peace movement. Isn’t it targeted at the Iraq insurgents?



The order allows the US authorities to seize assets of people who “have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence”, or people who provide them with financial or logistical support.



I don’t see how this would impact on peace protestors. If the US authorities tried to use the order to seize the assets of peace protestors, I’m sure the peace protestors’ lawyers would have something to say about it!



For what it’s worth, here’s how the US State Dept spokesman Sean McCormack tried to explain the purpose of the executive order:



“There's a lot more to be done throughout the region to stop this flow of foreign fighters into Iraq. The President today - just today issued an executive order that we believe is going to help in that regard, trying to shut off support, money, any other sort of encouragement to people who want to flow into Iraq in order to cause death and destruction for the Iraqi people and could possibly pose a threat to our troops.”



If America was planning to lock up American peace protesters, it would be a big news story, but as far as I can tell, that’s not what they’re doing here.



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GVI signed this law on 17th July.

What's 17 x 7 ?

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This has been posted in another thread but i think it's so important that it needs to be added to this tread!

30 DAYS TO ABSOLUTE TYRANNY!

Latest Bush Executive Order Kills Your 5th Amendment Right to Own Property

In an as yet un-numbered Executive Order (at least the number isn't published), president bush has decreed that your property - all of it - can be taken away at the sole discretion of the Secretary of the Treasury at the mere suspicion that you may commit a crime in the future. You can view and read this latest executive atrocity at the White House website.

If you own a business, this concerns you. Whether you own it as a sole proprietorship, as a sole shareholder, or even as a partial shareholder of a corporation, you stand to lose all of it if the Secretary thinks you may commit an "act of violence" that may disrupt the war (or peace) effort in Iraq. Naturally, "act of violence" is not defined anywhere in this order.

Once this becomes law, he has all the tools Hitler and Stalin had to keep their respective populations in utter subjection to their will.

The executive order states in Section 1(a) that “all property and interests in property” of “any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of - blah, blah, blah (followed by a laundry list of “purposes or effects”).

This means that the triggering factor underlying any such blocking order is a mere “determination” by the Secretary of the Treasury that you pose a “significant risk” of committing an act of violence in the future that has any of the listed purposes or effects. All the Secretary then has to do is to “consult” with the secretaries of state and defense. There is not even a requirement that these two agree with the Treasury Secretary’s “determination”(!)

In other words, if the Secretary of the Treasury says that you “pose a significant risk” of committing an act of violence with the purpose or effect of “threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq; or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people”, then the 'bushprez' can block you from accessing your bank account, retirement account, credit cards, or “any property or interest in property” that you may own.

That technically includes your house, whether owned or rented, your car or other means of transportation, whether owned or rented, your business, all the way down to your cell phone, toothpaste and underwear, as well as the twenty bucks you loaned your buddy that he hasn’t paid you back yet.

What is there to keep the Secretary of the Treasury from “determining” that you, because you oppose the war in Iraq, are probably one of those extremist hooligans who protested the WTO in Seattle a few years back, or that you are likely to act like one of them even though you haven’t even participated in those riots? War protesters do these things, don’t they? They are all the same, aren’t they?

If the Secretary “determines” that you probably are one of them and that you “pose a significant risk of committing” an act of violence intended to frustrate the war (or even the peace effort) in Iraq, all of your stuff can be taken away from you - or you can be “blocked” from accessing it, which pretty much amounts to the same thing.

You have no legal recourse under this order. No remedy at law. The order does not provide for compensation to you for the taking of your property. There is no due process requirement that will guarantee you a fair hearing in a court of law.

Unconstitutional? You bet!

But you can’t complain about it.

Why is that?

The president has declared a state of emergency back in 2003 (as he recites in this executive order at the end of the paragraph that starts with “I, GEORGE W. BUSH”). That state of emergency has not been rescinded, to this date.

In a state of emergency, the president has the power to do whatever he wants, and you can’t complain - or else.

This is the clear, logical consequence of Americans’ acquiescing to their government claiming the right to pursue the anti-Christian doctrine of preemptive war.

If the president can launch a war against another country in order to prevent a potential, as yet unrealized future attack, then he can also prosecute a potential criminal at home - or confiscate ALL of his property - for acts that the prez (or his Secretary) simply “determine” might be committed in the future.

We are talking about the imposition, by executive order, of absolute, unrestricted tyranny and despotism in the name of “national security.”

Does this mean he will take your property away from you?

Not necessarily.

But you just gave him (or any future president) the power to do so at any time in the future if he (or she) think it may be a good idea!

Yes, it is you who gave him that power - because you didn’t do anything about it.

No point in blaming anybody else. It’s you who is at fault. If you sit back and wait for somebody else to act on your behalf, you have just given up any legitimate claim to your own right to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness.

Are you going to act?

Better stand up.

If you are a Christian, stand up.

If you are a Democrat, stand up.

If you are a Republican, even a Neocon who thinks the president would never do such a thing -

STAND UP!!

This is no time for playing party politics. If continuing the war in Iraq is more important to you than even the very last shred of your own liberty, then what’s the point in fighting the Jihadists? You have already acquiesced to live exactly the way they want you to live - namely, without any rights, whatsoever.

The only difference is the rhetoric used as justification for your enslavement. Bush uses rhetoric that appeals to US right-wingers, while the Jihadists use rhetoric that appeals to fundamentalist Muslims.

The result is the same.

Now, who is the enemy?

They both are. Each uses the other as justification for imposing a tyrannical regime onto you and everybody else. If you are an American and you value your Liberty, I don’t care what side of the phony political spectrum you currently occupy.

STAND UP!!

An executive order only becomes law if Congress doesn’t overturn it within thirty days after it is published in the Federal Register.

You can still prevent this order from becoming law - and I mean YOU! Not the guy next to you, not your representative in Congress. YOU must act NOW - or it’s all too late.

Call your two Senators. Call your Congressman. RAISE HELL! - but for God’s sake, don’t go out into the streets and smash in store windows to vent your frustration. That would deliver the perfect excuse for Bush to take your stuff away from you, or to have you arrested as a “terrorist” under the Military Commissions Act.

It’s your last chance. If you let this one slip by you, it’s all over with freedom.

One last point that I can’t resist making: If you trust any candidate for president in 2008 to voluntarily rescind this order after he or she becomes president, you ought to have your head examined. They all love the power it gives them. Only Ron Paul will actually do it - and you know that is true!

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Old-line Republican warns 'something's in the works' to trigger a police state

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For Thom Hartmann's interview with Paul Craig Roberts, go to the end and click on 'found here'
Thom Hartmann began his program on Thursday by reading from a new Executive Order which allows the government to seize the assets of anyone who interferes with its Iraq policies.

He then introduced old-line conservative Paul Craig Roberts -- a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under Reagan who has recently become known for his strong opposition to the Bush administration and the Iraq War -- by quoting the "strong words" which open Roberts' latest column: "Unless Congress immediately impeaches Bush and Cheney, a year from now the US could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran."

"I don't actually think they're very strong," said Roberts of his words. "I get a lot of flak that they're understated and the situation is worse than I say. ... When Bush exercises this authority [under the new Executive Order] ... there's no check to it. It doesn't have to be ratified by Congress. The people who bear the brunt of these dictatorial police state actions have no recourse to the judiciary. So it really is a form of total, absolute, one-man rule. ... The American people don't really understand the danger that they face."

Roberts said that because of Bush's unpopularity, the Republicans face a total wipeout in 2008, and this may be why "the Democrats have not brought a halt to Bush's follies or the war, because they expect his unpopular policies to provide them with a landslide victory in next year's election."

However, Roberts emphasized, "the problem with this reasoning is that it assumes that Cheney and Rove and the Republicans are ignorant of these facts, or it assumes that they are content for the Republican Party to be destroyed after Bush has his fling." Roberts believes instead that Cheney and Rove intend to use a renewal of the War on Terror to rally the American people around the Republican Party. "Something's in the works," he said, adding that the Executive Orders need to create a police state are already in place.

"The administration figures themselves and prominent Republican propagandists ... are preparing us for another 9/11 event or series of events," Roberts continued. "Chertoff has predicted them. ... The National Intelligence Estimate is saying that al Qaeda has regrouped. ... You have to count on the fact that if al Qaeda's not going to do it, it's going to be orchestrated. ... The Republicans are praying for another 9/11."

Hartmann asked what we as the people can do if impeachment isn't about to happen. "If enough people were suspicious and alert, it would be harder for the administration to get away with it," Roberts replied. However, he added, "I don't think these wake-up calls are likely to be effective," pointing out the dominance of the mainstream media.

"Americans think their danger is terrorists," said Roberts. "They don't understand the terrorists cannot take away habeas corpus, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution. ... The terrorists are not anything like the threat that we face to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution from our own government in the name of fighting terrorism. Americans just aren't able to perceive that."

Roberts pointed out that it's old-line Republicans like himself, former Reagan associate deputy attorney general Bruce Fein, and Pat Buchanan who are the diehards in warning of the danger. "It's so obvious to people like us who have long been associated in the corridors of power," he said. "There's no belief in the people or anything like that. They have agendas. The people are in the way. The Constitution is in the way. ... Americans need to comprehend and look at how ruthless Cheney is. ... A person like that would do anything."

Roberts final suggestion was that, in the absence of a massive popular outcry, "the only constraints on what's going to happen will come from the federal bureaucracy and perhaps the military. They may have had enough. They may not go along with it."

The full audio of Thom Hartmann's interview with Paul Craig Roberts can be found here.

To get directly to the interview click on URL:

http://ia341204.us.archive.org/0/items/71907ThomHartmannInterviews
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http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Oldline_Republican_warns_somethings
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olbermann Special Comment on Iraq War Scapegoating

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - that's a good clip - someone's waking up - but enough? Methinks is too late unless they catch the Sheehan meme in their millions by 23rd? Hmm...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:17 am    Post subject: US Countdown to Dictatorship - 26 days - a poster Reply with quote

US Countdown to Dictatorship - 26 days - a poster

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony, thanks for 'upping' my poster. I will be changing it daily (as I really don't have the time for embedded animated 'countdown' .GIFs).

If anyone wants to improve on it or help spread it around America, please do help ASAP!

http://tinyurl.com/2h8sjg links to the full A3 version (~300kb) - .psp layered file is also available free on request.

I cannot stress how DIRE the situation really is for Freedom, Truth and Justice seekers - but here, you know that already, don't ya

Good luck,

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, 23rd July is the day Cindy Sheehan's 'march' reaches DC - the media blackout is INTENSE! That's not the only thing happening in DC that day!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you elaborate?
And is that the march for impeachment? Did they get the numbers they needed to make it possible to file for impeachment?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: The Poster/Handbill above is now HIDDEN on Indymedia... Reply with quote

The Poster/Handbill above is now HIDDEN on Indymedia...

And this is my response - apologies in advance for the its length:-

Hi 'Ana', (not Anne Frank?)

Thanks for your rapid response.

>please see here:
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>http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-features/2007-July/0723-x p.html
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>376724 - US Countdown to Dictatorship - 26 days - a poster - links to
>rense, site carrying racist material.

So you prefer the interminable lies and distortions of the ADL to sites like Rense, who at least has a clear understanding of what is truly going on in the world outside of NeoCONservative Straussian Dystopia? Perhaps you have not read his page detailing his true stance? - Eg - http://www.outlawjournalism.com/blog/wp-trackback.php?p=1890

I could feel sorry for you if it wasn't that such sophistication is costing countless innocent lives, spreading global misery and destroying any hope of peace and happiness for billions on this planet.

How many _individual_ voices do you think the ADL can squash, globally? The lies of the powerful can never overcome those who hold the concept of Justice for All firmly in their hearts. Not even the CFR/Bohemian Grove/Bilderberg mob can control EVERYONE's thoughts - only those they can buy or bury - and for how long?...

Your response to my poster also confirms to me and my email list that the entirety of Indymedia has been thoroughly infiltrated, degraded and disarmed by people who would rather condone monumental lies, massive cheating (eg. Lords Levy, Goldsmith?), stealing on a scale never before seen (2.3trillion$ at least, according to Rumsfeld) and wholesale murder, than uphold global justice.

>Take into account that your email will be publicly archived and
>searchable by google; you may want to create an email account just for that.

Why? Are you implying that Truth and Justice embody a threat? If so, to whom? What difference does it make, anyway, when it is patently obvious that NSA-controlled gooogl's outreach is 'virtually' omnipotent through such mechanisms as Echelon? That the entire western world's media is now in the hands of a very few unscrupulous people? That their message to humanity is plainly EVIL? That you are now aiding and abetting these insidious lies that are plunging all of us into an upside-down Orwellian world where Fear is Love; Lies are truth; War is Peace and Black is White?

PNAC, for anyone who is still thinking straight, is the key document detailing the plans of very powerful psychopaths. It carries within it the seeds of its own destruction. Evil has one massive and historical Achilles Heel - It Always and Invariably Messes Up!

So please tell me how my poster would be considered 'acceptable' to your masters? Would you wish me to also remove the whitehouse link? The Aaron Russo link?

Why do you suppose that this declaration of Dictatorship embodied in Cheney/Bush's latest edict has had ZERO coverage in the MSM? Do you consider this edict to be Constitutional? Do you not consider that these wretches are truly THE Criminals of this era?

There is already sufficient 9/11 evidence to arrest Cheney on suspicion of terrorism under the (Enabling aka) Patriot Act through the testimony of Norman Mineta (may he be preserved from ADL's thugs and hit squads forever!).

There is already sufficient evidence to arrest Cheney, Addington, Rove, Bush for Treason against the State (under the Espionage Act) for exposing Valeria Plame.

There is already sufficient evidence to arrest Blair, Hoon, Scarlett and Straw for Treason against the Crown for the deaths of Dr Kelly, Robin Cook, Jean C de Menezes et al plus the revelations of the 'Downing Street memo'.

No lie can stand forever so why do you continue to support those who have led us to the present degrading and vile state?

So would you rather I removed Rense from my post and perhaps substitute Daryl Bradford Smith's 'Bait and Switch' site at IamTheWitness.com ?

Or perhaps you would prefer it if I promoted the over 10,000 clear-sighted and truly honest Rabbis, G-od Preserve Them, at nkusa.org?

Please advise - and maybe search your hearts (you DO still have one, I trust?) for that One Tiny Voice deep inside that tells you in your quietest moments that 'Something Is Very Wrong' in the world and it stems from the criminals now occupying a building that was once sacrosanct to the memory of Lincoln, Jefferson, Madison and all those who fought so vehemently for some justice and sanity in this benighted world.

Finally, to all you spooks at the U$/UK alphabet soup of Infamy leading such miserable and pointless lives filtering all electronic communication day in day out - you may kill our bodies but you can never touch our souls.

Money buys nothing of value. Truth, Justice and pure Soul always prevails, eventually.

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Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq


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Fact sheet Message to the Congress of the United States Regarding International Emergency Economic Powers Act

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)(IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)(NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that, due to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, it is in the interests of the United States to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, and expanded in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, and Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004. I hereby order:

Section 1. (a) Except to the extent provided in section 203(b)(1), (3), and (4) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(1), (3), and (4)), or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the date of this order, all property and interests in property of the following persons, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons, are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense,

(i) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of:

(A) threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq; or

(B) undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people;

(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order.

(b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section include, but are not limited to, (i) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order, and (ii) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.

Sec. 2. (a) Any transaction by a United States person or within the United States that evades or avoids, has the purpose of evading or avoiding, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

(b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 3. For purposes of this order:

(a) the term "person" means an individual or entity;

(b) the term "entity" means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and

(c) the term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

Sec. 4. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the type specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.

Sec. 5. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that, because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render these measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1(a) of this order.

Sec. 6. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including the promulgation of rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to the President by IEEPA as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury may redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States Government, consistent with applicable law. All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order and, where appropriate, to advise the Secretary of the Treasury in a timely manner of the measures taken.

Sec. 7. Nothing in this order is intended to affect the continued effectiveness of any rules, regulations, orders, licenses, or other forms of administrative action issued, taken, or continued in effect heretofore or hereafter under 31 C.F.R. chapter V, except as expressly terminated, modified, or suspended by or pursuant to this order.

Sec. 8. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right, benefit, or privilege, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers or employees, or any other person.

GEORGE W. BUSH

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nrmis wrote:
Can you elaborate?
And is that the march for impeachment? Did they get the numbers they needed to make it possible to file for impeachment?


Nobody knows - there is a total media blackout on this Neo-Gandhian event as far as I can see. Not even the ubiquitous Alex Jones is commenting (running interference? I don't think so). Something HUGE is taking place, IMO...

The very fact that Cheney/Bush have meanwhile effectively declared Cindy Sheehan (and a majority of Americans) 'a terrorist' through their latest 'Enabling' edict implies they are truly getting desperate: And cornered psychopaths are at their most dangerous...

The reason I say this with confidence is that legally their latest edict actually puts them in jeopardy of arrest. They KNOW that if they don't achieve Dick-tatorship within weeks, their whole psychopathic fantasy will collapse from underneath them.

This was the key moment when they 'lost it':-

10/16/2006 10:10:17 AM CST

Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story
Only 16% now believe official fable according to New York Times/CBS News poll
Truth Movement has the huge majority of opinion
How will the Bush Cabal react?"
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Now we know - Cheney/Bush has declared itself Dictator.

AMERICA - YOU ARE NOW 24 DAYS FROM TOTAL TYRANNY

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D(ick) Day is 17/08/07
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone wants to know about the 'Impeachment March', search for 'Gold Star Families For Peace'. I don't know the link, but this is Cindy's site.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about that, it doesn't seem to have the latest news. How about this:





Subject : Journey for Humanity and Accountability It is up to Us..by Cindy Sheehan Day 14





It's Up to UsJourney for Humanity and AccountabilityDay 14Cindy SheehanI am lying in my hotel bed at the end of a very busy,productive, yet sad day.About 300 people gathered today and marched the 3½miles from the entrance of Arlington Cemetery toCongressman John Conyers' office to demand impeachmentand accountability from one of the leading figures inAmerican politics for the last four decades.We were so thrilled with the turn-out and the energyof the group. There was great media coverage and aboutone dozen freepers on the opposite corner with signslike: "Traitors go to Hell" and "Cindy Sheehan go toHell." Nice. I have learned that hell can be on earthand if there is anything worse than burying a child, Idon't want to know about it.At the end of the march, Reverend Lennox Yearwood,President of the Hip Hop Caucus, Ray McGovern (retiredCIA analyst) and I met with Congressman John Conyersto implore him to institute impeachment proceedingsagainst the pretenders to the White House who aredestroying our democracy, making a mockery out of ourrule of law and who are responsible for the deaths ofhundreds of thousands of innocent people.This was my third meeting with Congressman Conyersabout impeachment. I hold a special place in my heartfor him and I revere him for his decades long serviceto this nation but for the life of me, I cannotunderstand why he will not go forward with impeachmentnow.A year ago he introduced HR635 to impeach George Bushwhile he was Ranking Member of the House JudiciaryCommittee and not even chairman. He wrote the book onimpeachment called: The Constitution in Crisis and hereadily admits that BushCo have committed impeachableoffenses.It's about partisan politics, pure and simple. TheCongressman claims that there is absolutely no waythat impeachment can go forward and when I was nearingthe end of my hope I cried out: "So, if the people'shouse won't help us then we the people have norecourse against the executive branch." To which hereplied: "Yes you do, vote the enablers out in '08." Firstly, Congressman Conyers told us to put Democratsback in Congress to end the war and impeach BushCo. Wedid that and instead of ending the war, they gaveGeorge Bush more money to wage it and to conduct hisdeadly and tragic surge. Secondly, '08 will be toolate to hold George and Dick accountable. Thirdly,thousands of more people will die in these last monthsof the worst Presidency in American history andlastly: after Dick proclaimed that he was not part ofthe executive branch and that his office does not haveto comply with requests to turn over documents to theNational Archives: 435 Congress Reps should havesigned onto H Res 333 to impeach Cheney. Only fourteenhave co-signed Congressman Kucinich's bill, so thatmakes 421 elected Congressional officials enablers ofthe crimes of the Bush Regime.At the end of this day, Speaker Pelosi has notsupported impeachment and has not upheld her oath ofoffice to "protect and defend" the Constitution. LikeCongressman Conyers said almost a year ago, ourConstitution is in Crisis and we can't wait for moremeetings and more stalling from Reps who think theproblem will go away in '08. The Middle East israpidly falling apart under this regime and ourcountry is sliding rapidly into a state of one-branchtyranny while our "heroes" the Democrats fiddle. It was with very heavy hearts that Rev. Yearwood, Ray,and I reported back to the media that the Congressmanhad said that with over one million signatures onpetitions and with one phone call coming into hisoffice every 30 seconds supporting impeachment andwith 300 activists in the hall to support him, he wasstill not going to move forward with the most urgentduty of his career. The Rev and I were particularlydisheartened and broken because we do love theCongressman so much, but we love our country and thepeople of Iraq and the Middle East more. The Rev andRay spent many years serving their country in themilitary and the CIA and I had a son who gave his lifeto do what the Congress is supposed to do: protect ourfreedoms, not hand them over to the mob that runs ourcountry.It is also with a heavy heart that I announce mycandidacy against Nancy Pelosi in California's 8th. Ifanybody would dare think that I am not serious, Iwould hope that they would look back at the last threeyears of my life and everything that I have sacrificedto restore our nation to one that obeys the rule oflaw and can be looked up to with respect once again inthe international community and not as the hatedlaughingstock on the block. I am committed to challenging a two party system thathas kept us in a state of constant warfare for thelast 60 years and has become more and more beholden tospecial interests and has forgotten the faces of thepeople whom it represents.I am committed to using our strength as a country towage peace and to elevate the status of every citizenin our country by converting the enduring war economyto a prosperous one with lasting peace.Someone needs to step up to the plate to do this and Ichallenge other Americans to do the same. Challengethe status quo, because the status quo is no good. Weneed to become plugged into our government once againas active participants not just passive voters. It is up to us.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vendor Arrested For "Impeach Him" Buttons
Maryland Retiree's Anti-Bush Buttons Attract Supporters ... And Police

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McConnell was at the market in Kensington as usual yesterday, selling buttons that say "Impeach Him" He has sold the $1 buttons for months; he told The Washington Post he uses the money earned to pay for "Impeach Them Both" yard signs.

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