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Shayler says he's the New Messiah
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David's 'condition will be used by the media to ridicule the 9/11 Truth movement but this should not have too much effect on the further spreading of the 9/11 message.

The facts have been successfully disseminated outside the mainstream media anyway.......and those facts have not changed one whit.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what condition is that?
What is it with such people? Why can they never say that in a past life they were the boy who ate the dung or the girl who did the sweeping up - they always have to be King Arthur or Napoleon!
http://paulstott.typepad.com/911cultwatch/2007/08/suddenly-my-who.html #comment-78948544

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: David Shayler on More4 News Reply with quote

I don't know if this is in the public interest or not but it was requested so I uploaded it to Google Video:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you kidding here?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:49 am    Post subject: 00Heaven: Shayler thinks he's the chosen one Reply with quote

I'm God, says renegade spy David Shayler

by SAM GREENHILL -


As an MI5 whistleblower and fugitive, former spy David Shayler's powers as an agent of the state were revoked.

But now he claims to have more powers than anyone on Earth could possibly imagine.

For, after a period of reflection following his jailing for breaching the Official Secrets Act, Mr Shayler has concluded that he is the Messiah.

Last night, proclaiming himself 'God', he explained: "What I'd say to people is: Do I look mentally ill? Do I sound mentally ill?

"The reason I'm putting out this message is because I am absolutely convinced - as convinced as I can be of anything in this world - that the universe is changing shape and humanity has to prepare for that, and that I am here to help teach people."

Mr Shayler spent years on the run after exposing alleged wrongdoing at the heart of the Secret Service, including a claim that MI6 was involved in a failed assassination attempt on Libyan leader Colonel Gaddafi.

Eventually he returned to Britain voluntarily and was sentenced to six months in jail in 2002.

Since then, he has made ends meet giving speeches to conspiracy theorists.

Last night, in an interview with More4 News, Mr Shayler made the astonishing claim that he had seen a psychic who he believes channelled the spirit of Mary Magdalene and anointed him as the Messiah.

He told the programme: "Suddenly my whole life made sense.

"I felt a sense of peace, I suddenly realised why it had been how it had - why I seem to get such a strange deal from the universe, when I seem to be trying to tell the truth about everything."

The 41-year-old even claimed there is an anagram of "David Shayler, Righteous King" on the rod of Aaron, a staff carried by Moses' brother in the Old Testament.

He said: "I looked at that, except the word in Hebrew for King was "chav".

"So at the moment I suddenly realised it goes David S, H, A... I'm going through my name. "And I'm thinking someone's trying to tell me, because this is the ineffable name of God, someone's trying to tell you you're God. "And at the moment you suddenly realise that someone's trying to tell you you're God: David Shayler, righteous chav."

He also said his new-found divinity gave him the ability to change the weather, and that his meditation had stopped the summer's attempted bombings in London.

And he found time to channel the "light" into securing his beloved Middlesbrough football team a place in the 2006 UEFA cup final against Seville.

Sadly, his powers were not strong enough to ensure they won.


The Second Coming ...

Not since former Coventry City goalkeeper David Icke proclaimed himself the prophet has anyone in the public eye made such a bold assertion.

In 1991, Icke announced on the Terry Wogan chat show that he was 'the son of God' and that Britain would be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes. It led to claims he was mentally ill.

The one-time Grandstand host believes the world is ruled by a secret group of 12ft shapeshifting reptiles called the 'Global Elite' or 'Illuminati'.

He was even passed over for Celebrity Big Brother in 2006 for being 'too weird'.

Source: www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=4 74364&in_page_id=1770
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:30 am    Post subject: Messiah, her I come..... too! Reply with quote

I too, am the reincarnation of Jesus of Nazareth, King Arthur and da Vinci.

But as I'm not quite as modest as D. S., let me bluntly state that I'm also
the reincarnation of, Zoroaster, Hermes Trismegistus, Socrates, Plato,
Boethius, William BLake, Duhrer, Kierkegaard, H.C. Andersen,
Kahlil Gibran, Piet Hein, Jørn Utzon, etc. etc.

But of course, and obviously, I'm also the reincarnation of Emily dickenson, Elizabeth Barret browning, Isak Dinesen, Mother Teresa, Marilyn Monroe etc. - and not least Christina Rosetti.

This latter dear sweetheart wrote the following poem, and which many in
this forum should carefully read, but of course, won't do at all, due to
certain flaws, like immaturity and no understanding, in their make-up:


I saw a vision of a woman, where
Night and new morning strive for domination;
Incomparably pale, and almost fair,
And sad beyond expression.

I stood upon the outer barren ground,
She stood on inner ground that budded flowers;
While circling in their never-slackening round
Danced by the mystic hours.

But every flower was lifted on a thorn,
And every thorn shot upright from its sands
To gall her feet; hoarse laughter pealed in scorn
With cruel clapping hands.

She bled and wept, yet did not shrink; her strength
Was strung up until daybreak of delight:
She measured measureless sorrow toward its length,
And breadth, and depth, and height.

Then marked I how a chain sustained her form,
A chain of living links not made nor riven:
It streched sheer up through lighting, wind, and storm,
And anchored fast in heaven.

One cried: "How long? Yet founded on the rock
She shall do battle, suffer, and attain."
One answered: "Faith quakes in the tempest shock:
Strengthen her soul again."

I saw a cup sent down and come to her
Brimful of loathing and of bitterness:
She drank with livid lips that seemed to stir
The depth, not make it less.

But as she drank I spied a hand distil
New wine and virgin honey; making it
First bitter-sweet, then sweet indeed, until
She tasted only sweet.

Her lips and cheeks waxed rosy-fresh and young;
Drinking she sang: "My soul shall nothing want";
And drank anew: while soft a song was sung,
A mystical slow chant.


So, yes. I also need tender loving help and care from all you amazingly
selfless, concerned, and so clever and insightful people in this thread.

Love
Tamborine man.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry's Place....a nasty racist hate site......has plenty to say on the matter.

http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/

Comments welcome.!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must state that I have every sympapthy for the "Personal Problems" that David is going through.

Further it would be up to each indivdual UK truth group, to retain or not David as a speaker, HOWEVER......

The "UK Truth Movement", should be based on just that TRUTH.

We, well I anyway don't go around talking to people about the NWO, UNLESS I can prove what I am saying, with documental evidence.

To retain any credibility thats really what it's all about.

Whatever your opinion on his "Revelations" it is clear that he can't prove any of them & justly should be kept seperate from the movement.

From a critical point of view, David clearly has not even got his claims correct:

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The 41-year-old even claimed there is an anagram of "David Shayler, Righteous King" on the rod of Aaron, a staff carried by Moses' brother in the Old Testament.


First off, Hebrew was written without Vowels, therefore they had to be added for each word.

The claim does not even appear in the cannonised bible, rather some obscure ancient writings.

These writings claim that the Tetragrammaton (English YHWH - God's Personal name - Usually translated Yahweh or Jehovah) & an Acrostic phrase constructed from the first letter of each of the plagues.

Quite how, David managed to get "David Shayler, Righteous King" from an unproven phrase made up of 14 letters is beyond me.

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He said: "I looked at that, except the word in Hebrew for King was "chav".


If only David, If only....

The Hebrew word for "King" is Melech. A possible derivitive is the word Mulcahey.

'My king' would be 'malchee' & David is certainly not my king, so please don't test me Dave.

I hope this does not sound like I am ridiculing him, because I have enourmous respect for the work he has done.

ELOHIM - (Which is the Hebrew word for god;-)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject: Truth movement should be based on truth Reply with quote

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ELOHIM - (Which is the Hebrew word for god Wink

ELOHIM which is a plural word, refers to gods, kings, rulers or others who have authority over people.

The Bible says that 'the heavens of the heavens' (or sky of the sky - other space) cannot contain God, yet the Hebrews followed something they could see in the sky! Did Moses get the commandments for God? No, "the law was transmitted by angels" the Bible says. Elohim is plural and there are conspiracies here that goes back thousands of years.

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The "UK Truth Movement", should be based on just that TRUTH.

And we have Hebrew writings saying that their national god is the true God of the universe. Go figure...

In regard to David Shayler, it looks like 'they' (gods, kings, rulers or others in authority) have done something to his mind.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only just discovered this story today (and read half of pages 1 & 6 of this thread).

I've been critical of David in the past (for his public "no-plane" pronouncements), but I must say, he's looking quite good in the more4 news piece.

And announcing that you are the messiah is not really any more damaging to the truth movement than claiming that no planes actually flew into the WTC towers, so I don't have any complaints there.

He's looking quite good. The irony is, he was bloated and full of himself before, but now he thinks he's Jesus, he seems far less self-absorbed.

Can you figure?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

egw wrote:
I've only just discovered this story today (and read half of pages 1 & 6 of this thread).

I've been critical of David in the past (for his public "no-plane" pronouncements), but I must say, he's looking quite good in the more4 news piece.

And announcing that you are the messiah is not really any more damaging to the truth movement than claiming that no planes actually flew into the WTC towers, so I don't have any complaints there.

He's looking quite good. The irony is, he was bloated and full of himself before, but now he thinks he's Jesus, he seems far less self-absorbed.

Can you figure?

He doesn't quite seem the same person. Have they done something to him?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

truthseeker john wrote:
He doesn't quite seem the same person. Have they done something to him?


It may not be a bad thing that he doesn't seem the same. He seemed to have hundreds of years worth of deceit piled up in his psyche even when he was a champion for truth.

I can't say that the clairvoyant wasn't a plant (or maybe she was the truly wacky one in this story - I can't say), but compared to what he was, I can't say that he's headed the wrong way.

Ayahuasca, ibogaine - look them up - they do stuff to you.

But on the other hand, given his status, it is likely that he is being handled in some way or another.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Locking this now

Continue discussion - post Thursday 9th August 2007's More Four News piece - here:
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=10726

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