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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Is Homeopathy just a placebo effect? Reply with quote

Scientific medicine revealed: It’s a cult, not a science
The false gods of scientific medicine revealed: It’s a cult, not a science

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/the-false-gods-of-scientific-me dicine-revealed-its-a-cult-not-a-science/689/

By Mike Adams

Promoters of conventional medicine claim that all the drug marketing, FDA approvals, surgical procedures, chemotherapy and all other treatments are based on “hard science.” The term “science” is invoked with hilarious frequency: Science journals, science-based medicine, proven medical science and so on. As you might have guessed, however, there’s surprisingly little genuine science to be found in the common practice of conventional medicine. Rather, what passes for “science” today is a collection of health myths, half-truths, intellectual dishonesty, self delusion, fraudulent reporting and wishful thinking.

Take clinical trials, for example. These are supposed to be the “gold standard” of scientific study, and yet it has been well demonstrated that these studies almost always produce results beneficial to the organization providing the funding. The wishes of the study sponsors, not true scientific methods, determine the study outcomes. This is accomplished through an elaborate system of fraudulent trial design, selective reporting, dismissing study subjects who don’t produce the desired outcome, statistical distortions and the application of career pressure to the researchers who carry out such studies. (Researchers who don’t produce the desired results get blackballed by the industry.)

The end result is that today’s so-called “scientific medicine” has almost no resemblance to genuine science at all. The word “science” is simply used as a cover story for what’s really going on behind the scenes — a massive campaign of pro-drug propaganda, arm-twisting, public brainwashing, media control and regulatory failures that all add up to one thing: A system of medicine that is the greatest con ever perpetrated on the American people.

Where is the skepticism about conventional medicine?
Conventional medicine is almost entirely justified by truly bad science. And yet so-called skeptics, who are supposed to exercise clear thinking about all subjects, never seem to question the fraudulent science behind prescription drugs. The mass drugging of children for fictitious diseases, for example, seems to be okay with such skeptics, who are too busy bashing homeopathy and acupuncture to take an honest, critical look at the junk science behind prescription drugs, it seems.

Ultimately, these so-called quack-busting skeptics only question certain selected topics. All drugs get an automatic thumbs up, no matter how ludicrous the underlying science, while all natural therapies are automatically and routinely criticized by skeptics who equate their own lack of understanding with proof that something mysterious can’t possibly work. They say homeopathy can’t work, for example, simply because they can’t find any mechanism to explain how it could work. That’s tantamount to saying that nothing new will ever be discovered because skeptics already know everything there is to know about the way the universe works.

Let’s face it: Neither conventional medicine, nor its promoters, has attained any real membership in the club of genuine scientists. Real scientists are people like Richard Feynman, a legendary author, lecturer and infinitely curious individual who never allowed his own ego to cloud his open mind about the laws of the universe. If Feynman were alive today and observing the so-called “science” backing conventional medicine, he’d probably laugh out loud at the utter lack of scientific merit found in the drug studies published in so-called “scientific journals.”

The Church of Medical Truth
While defenders of conventional medicine don’t have membership in the club of genuine science, they are card-carrying members of another organization: The Church of Medical Truth (similar to the Ministry of Truth from 1984). In this Church, the beliefs of members (doctors, FDA bureaucrats, media reporters, etc.) are handed down from the high priests, and those beliefs — that all drugs are good, all vitamins are bad, etc. — are blindly followed by the faithful, who dare not question those beliefs on any genuine scientific basis.

This is how doctors have come to believe the incredible: That food has nothing to do with health, that antioxidants will kill you, that herbs interfere with drugs, and that only drugs can treat or cure disease. It’s a cult-like belief system handed down by the high priests of conventional medicine, and if this intricate web of false beliefs was actually subjected to genuine scientific scrutiny, it would crumble into a thousand pieces of junk science and marketing propaganda.

Conventional medicine, as practiced and promoted today, has nothing whatsoever to do with good science, but everything to do with promoting a particular cult-like worldview that says only doctors can treat or cure disease, not patients, or nature, or nutrition. And its proponents and practitioners are not scientists, but rather part of the congregation of the Church of Medical Truth. Mainstream media stories that parrot the cult-like beliefs of conventional medicine are the singing of the church choir, and the altar boys getting sodomized in the back room by high priests are like the public being chemically assaulted by pharmaceuticals. (A kind of “medical violence” perpetrated against the general public.)

This is not intended to say anything bad about churches. I believe in Freedom of Religion just as I do Freedom of Speech. But I don’t believe in giving a group of doctors and drug pushers the exclusive right to claim their particular beliefs are the one true “science,” to the exclusion of all else, especially when their so-called science is really just another competing system of beliefs founded on circular logic (”Drugs are safe because they are subjected to scientific scrutiny in studies specifically designed to show that drugs are safe.”)

What skeptics should really be considering
Consider these facts about modern medicine:

• There is currently no requirement whatsoever that surgical procedures be scientifically proven as either safe or effective before being widely performed on the public.

• Chemotherapy has been scientifically proven to be worthless at curing cancer, enhancing quality of life or protecting the health of the patient. In fact, chemotherapy kills patients, and even the ones who survive it are left with permanent damage to their brain (”chemo brain”), kidneys, liver and other organs. Chemotherapy is a medical hoax with absolutely no scientific validity. The size of a tumor is not a measure of the degree of cancer that exists on a patient’s body, and shrinking a tumor is not a meaningful measure of a cancer treatment’s success.

• The rapid rise in depression, ADHD and other mental or “behavioral” disorders is so large that it can only be explained by either an infectious epidemic (in which case the CDC should be involved) or rampant disease mongering where drug companies invent diseases and push them onto children and adults in order to sell more drugs. Anyone who believes that ADHD is a real disease that has inexplicably stricken 1000% more children over the last twenty years is kidding themselves. This “disease” is pure fiction, and there is absolutely no blood test, no MRI, no lab test, nothing to diagnose ADHD other than the opinion of someone who most likely earns kickbacks from Big Pharma.

• Nearly all pharmaceuticals receiving FDA approval today have been tested on only a few thousand people for a very short period of time (as little as six weeks in some cases). Yet, from such limited testing, the FDA declares the drugs to be safe for everyone, even for long-term use, without a shred of evidence that such long-term use is safe.

• No scientific testing whatsoever has been done to fully document the toxic effects of combinations of medications. Deadly drug interactions are simply noted after the fact. Consumers who take multiple prescription drugs are literally serving as Big Pharma’s guinea pigs.

• There is currently no requirement whatsoever that drug side effects noticed by doctors be reported to the FDA. The entire system of reporting is purely voluntary.

• The entire paradigm of pharmaceutical medicine makes no sense. Chemicals are used to treat “biomarkers” or measurable biochemical states, yet disease and dysfunction is complex and always involved more than a single measurable number. Cholesterol drugs, for example, may artificially lower cholesterol numbers, but they completely ignore the root cause of elevated cholesterol. This is why cholesterol drugs have been scientifically proven worthless in preventing heart attacks or other fatal cardiovascular events.

• Most drugs don’t work on most people. Claims of benefits are highly exaggerated by reporting their relative percentage rather than absolute percentage of efficacy. For example, if two people out of 100 normally get breast cancer, and a drug causes that number to be reduced to one person out of 100, the drug company will claim a “50% reduction in breast cancer!” when, in reality, it’s a 1% reduction across the population. Yet the drug will be marketed to everyone as a breast cancer “prevention” strategy. And yet 99% of the people who take it will experience no benefits from it. Most drugs are useless. A drug only has to work on about 5% of test subjects to receive FDA approval.

Someday, future medicine may actually be based on open-minded curiosity about the laws of nature and how human beings may attain a higher state of health. But until then, we’re living in the Dark Ages of medicine, where the power of the Church of Medical Truth seems absolute, and its own modern-day Inquisition conducts routine search-and-destroy missions on any health practitioner who dares to question the power of the Church.

Real science is about the search for truth and an understanding of the laws of nature, but modern medical science (conventional medicine) is little more than a search for profits at the expense of public health. It has nothing whatsoever to do with genuine science. And as the public wises up to this, the future of conventional medicine doesn’t have a prayer.

After the collapse of Western medicine, real health care will inevitably end up returning to its roots: The healing power of nature.

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About the author: Mike Adams is a natural health author and technology pioneer with a passion for sharing empowering information to help improve personal and planetary health He has authored and published thousands of articles, interviews, consumers guies, and books on topics like health and the environment, reaching millions of readers with information that is saving lives and improving personal health around the world. Adams is an honest, independent journalist and accepts no money or commissions on the third-party products he writes about or the companies he promotes. In 2007, Adams launched EcoLEDs, a manufacturer of mercury-free, energy-efficient LED lighting products that save electricity and help prevent global warming. He also launched an online retailer of environmentally-friendly products (BetterLifeGoods.com) and uses a portion of its profits to help fund non-profit endeavors. He’s also a successful software entrepreneur, having founded a well known email marketing software company whose technology currently powers the NewsTarget email newsletters. Adams volunteers his time to serve as the executive director of the Consumer Wellness Center, a 501(c)3 non-profit organization, and regularly pursues cycling, nature photography, Capoeira and Pilates. He’s also author of numerous health books published by Truth Publishing and is the creator of several consumer-oriented grassroots campaigns, including the Spam. Don’t Buy It! campaign, and the free downloadable Honest Food Guide. He also created the free reference sites HerbReference.com and HealingFoodReference.com. Adams believes in free speech, free access to nutritional supplements and the ending of corporate control over medicines, genes and seeds. Known by his callsign, the ‘Health Ranger,’ Adams posts his missions statements, health statistics and health photos at www.HealthRanger.org
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homoeopathy remedies are no better than Smarties and should not be prescribed on NHS, say MPs
By Jenny Hope - Daily Mail - 22nd February 2010
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1252955/Homoeopathy-remedies -better-Smarties-prescribed-NHS-say-MPs.html
Patients should no longer get homeopathic treatment on the NHS because it is little better than 'active deception', according to a committee of MPs.
They said there was no evidence the remedies work and dismissed them as 'sugar pills' which should not carry medical claims.
The Commons Science and Technology Committee said homeopathic pills were simply a placebo - a non-active treatment that makes patients feel better.
Homeopathy treats 'like with like' by using highly diluted substances which if taken in larger doses would bring on the symptoms of the illness being treated.
There are four NHS hospitals and clinics offering homeopathy, and the Prince of Wales and the Queen are supporters of it.......

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Homeopathy and herbal remedies are not the same thing. Early Homeopathy involved a guy called Hanneman (probably spelt wrong) who was into some odd practices if i remember correctly like swinging a pendulum over his remedies.
A belief in the "life force" within certain plants/substances actually curing rather than any chemical trace of the plant/substance in the remedy.


The more the substance is diluted apparently the more effective it becomes. I am surprised noone has tried to sue a Homeopathic Remedy Producer because the dilution process leaves no discernable trace of the active substance for which you beleive you are paying for.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Homeopathy and how it works Reply with quote

I have used homeopathy for some years and I know a number of Homeopaths, some of whom train homeopaths. I have read much of the literature and I will give a concise account of how it works:

The body"s immune system has two levels. It has the part that does the healing, and it has a diagnostic part, a part which tells the other part what needs to be healed. It is this second part of the immune system, the diagnostic part that sometimes fails to detect an illness or imbalance. It is this part that homeopathy treats.

Homeopathy like many 'alternative' treatments stimulates this diagnostic part of the immune system to get it working again. This is why the treatments are poisons, They are a poison, which has similar symptoms to the disease or condition from which the patient is suffering. This was a commmon way of treatment up to the 18th century

What Hanneman did was to introduce an 'alchemical' process of potentisation. That is to shake it, or percuss it a number of times, then dilute it and shake it again a given number of times. this potentised substance causes the body to reach as though it has had a dose of the poison. It reacts against it and this clears up the ailment in the process.

Some of the remedies have been shaken more that 1000 times. Nowadays it is done mechanically.

The odd thing is the more the remedies are shaken , diluted and shaken, the stonger and more powerful the remedies become.

At the beginning of the last century, ten percent of the hospitals in America were homeopathic.

Modern medicine considers the body to be a biochemical machine. It assumes that every medical problem is caused by an imbalance, either the body is producing too much of something it does not need, or not enough of something it does need. In short it bypasses and sometimes suppressthe immune system.

For this reason medicine needs to be taken continually, and sometimes another medicine needs to be taken to supress the side effects of the first medicine. Homeopathy does not cause unwanted side effects.
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Homeopathy is under attack in the run up to Codex Alimentarius implementation. The easiest places to check efficacy is in the records of the Royal homeopathic hospitals' results during the C19th cholera epidemics against those of allopathic hospitals, or the mortality of those who sought homeopathic treatment of the 1918 pandemic flu, against those treated allopathically. Just two epidemic remedies, arsenicum or gelsemium, provided satisfactory treatment of the flu in 80% of cases.
Those cretins who swallowed whole containers of homeopathic remedies bought from Boots outside the stores recently sought to prove that homeopathic remedies don't work because 'overdosing' on them creates no ill effects.
In fact all they were proving is that homeopathic remedies are non-toxic, unlike the Big Pharma drugs which are highly toxic and will seriously damage or kill you in large doses
Funny how they were so unaware of the scientific value of their demonstration, when they claim to be supporting orthodox science

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i would advise searching for memory of water on youtube etc to completely understand how homeopathy works

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i would advise searching for memory of water on youtube etc to completely understand how homeopathy works


According to this clip, the editor of Nature brought along in his small team, James Randi, who is an associate of active paedophile promoters and CIA mind control psychiatrists. Some peer review of Beneviste's work!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul wright wrote:
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i would advise searching for memory of water on youtube etc to completely understand how homeopathy works


According to this clip, the editor of Nature brought along in his small team, James Randi, who is an associate of active paedophile promoters and CIA mind control psychiatrists. Some peer review of Beneviste's work!

Very interesting clip, especially with Randi there doing what he does best.
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there is plenty of other info to understand homeopathy mechanisms
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When is homeopathy (pharmacy) not witchcraft? When man, doesn’t mess with it (witchcraft) at all.

About the only thing it does (homeopathy) is prevent people taking what would be larger doses of chemicals (When it is the case natural vitamins, herbs are not used only in homeopathy.) Many people feel better with homeopathy, because they are not taking so many poisons.

A healthy diet and more importantly a healthy spirit will keep you healthy and cure from within. (A healthy spirit has the will power not to take any pharmacy, even homeopathy)
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When is homeopathy (pharmacy) not witchcraft? When man, doesn’t mess with it (witchcraft) at all.

About the only thing it does (homeopathy) is prevent people taking what would be larger doses of chemicals (When it is the case natural vitamins, herbs are not used only in homeopathy.) Many people feel better with homeopathy, because they are not taking so many poisons.

A healthy diet and more importantly a healthy spirit will keep you healthy and cure from within. (A healthy spirit has the will power not to take any pharmacy, even homeopathy)

Your penultimate sentence is correct at least, Andrew.
What makes you think 'witchcraft' isn't of value, Andrew. The elites certainly use it to self-serving ends, and its methods certainly exist within the natural sciences, which have by no means been ultimately explored.
Have you tried homeopathy? Do you know people who practise homeopathy , or people who have been treated successfully by it? Or are you just judging via the limitations of Newtonian physics that it can't possibly work? I've treated animals, babies and adults who have no idea they've been 'treated' and seen some remarkable results, and I'm not even a qualified homeopath.
Sorry, mate, it works despite the current efforts by some in the media, the Commons, the medical profession to destroy its credibility in front of the Codex onslaught on general health status
It's particularly hated at the moment because, given proper storage, (darkness, coolness, preferably glass storage) it can be ferreted away for a hundred years and still be effective. It can also be replicated endlessly on Rae derived radionics machines, which can also deliver herbal tincture similarities. A future protection against the global and absolute imposition of Big Pharma

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When is homeopathy (pharmacy) not witchcraft? When man, doesn’t mess with it (witchcraft) at all.

About the only thing it does (homeopathy) is prevent people taking what would be larger doses of chemicals (When it is the case natural vitamins, herbs are not used only in homeopathy.) Many people feel better with homeopathy, because they are not taking so many poisons.

A healthy diet and more importantly a healthy spirit will keep you healthy and cure from within. (A healthy spirit has the will power not to take any pharmacy, even homeopathy)

Your penultimate sentence is correct at least, Andrew.
What makes you think 'witchcraft' isn't of value, Andrew. The elites certainly use it to self-serving ends, and its methods certainly exist within the natural sciences, which have by no means been ultimately explored.
Have you tried homeopathy? Do you know people who practise homeopathy , or people who have been treated successfully by it? Or are you just judging via the limitations of Newtonian physics that it can't possibly work? I've treated animals, babies and adults who have no idea they've been 'treated' and seen some remarkable results, and I'm not even a qualified homeopath.
Sorry, mate, it works despite the current efforts by some in the media, the Commons, the medical profession to destroy its credibility in front of the Codex onslaught on general health status
It's particularly hated at the moment because, given proper storage, (darkness, coolness, preferably glass storage) it can be ferreted away for a hundred years and still be effective. It can also be replicated endlessly on Rae derived radionics machines, which can also deliver herbal tincture similarities. A future protection against the global and absolute imposition of Big Pharma



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5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall NOT inherit the Kingdom of God.
5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no Law.
5:24 And they that ARE Christ's have [already] crucified the "Self" with the [partiality of] affections and lusts (of the flesh).
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Mistletoe helped me fight cancer, says survivor Joan

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Interesting, but not witchcraft.

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When is homeopathy (pharmacy) not witchcraft? When man, doesn’t mess with it (witchcraft) at all.


Witchcraft:

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Mistletoe preparations are plant-based medicines, and use the whole
plant or the composition of active substances in the plant as the basis for
their therapeutic effect. However, some manufacturers concentrate their
efforts solely on one ingredient, the lectin content of mistletoe.
In this respect, the widespread belief that plant medicines are harmless
is incorrect, for although the side-effects of therapy with mistletoe preparations
are comparatively minor, some of the individual ingredients are
among the most poisonous substances known. Mistletoe preparations for
this reason can only be obtained on prescription and are not to be used
without medical supervision. The fact that, despite this, the side-effects
that occur are only minor is due to the interaction of the various ingre-
Therapeutic effects of the
ingredients of mistletoe
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dients in mistletoe. This effect, known as synergy, is however also shown
in a totally different way when laboratory tests on different tumour cells
have shown that individual ingredients of mistletoe, such as lectins, have
a markedly lower therapeutic effect than the extract of the mistletoe
plant as a whole.
Two important groups of substances in mistletoe are viscotoxins and
lectins.
Viscotoxins produce necrosis, in other words they cause cell death by poisoning
the cell, accompanied by inflammation. Lectins, however, act on
the cell nucleus where they cause an apoptotic reaction of the cell.
Apoptosis means the stimulation of an ordered degradation of all the cell
components, comparable to natural cell death. At present, four groups of
mistletoe lectins are known.
In addition to the function described, directed specifically against the
diseased cell, mistletoe possesses the property, as already mentioned, of
having a modulating effect on the immune system. In this way, the immune
system can be stimulated as a whole, non-specifically or specifically,
in its capacity to deal with diseased cells or foreign substances. The nonspecific
reactions, which are inherent in the immune system, include a
marked increase in leucocytes in the blood. Specific reactions, i.e. the immune
system learns this reaction as a result of administration of the drug,
are for example the increased formation of T-cells and B-cells (see Index
pages 51). Mistletoe therapy therefore stimulates the immune system to
"remember" its tidying and cleaning function. This is confirmed by clinical
studies.
Mistletoe therapy may therefore be seen as a meaningful supplement to
conventional therapies.
The normal method of giving the subcutaneous injection is described
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Mistletoe preparations are administered by subcutaneous injection,
i.e. the contents of the ampoules are injected under the skin. As a rule,
this is done two or three times weekly. Only freshly opened ampoules
should be used. The administered dose is increased during the first few
weeks, depending on the state of health and the therapeutic aims. The
increase in dose is intended to achieve the most effective individual dose.
It can however happen that an optimum level is achieved with the very
first dose used. An effective and tolerated dose is readily recognised by
the patient on the basis of the reactions described below. It should be
mentioned first of all however that these reactions or side-effects are
normally a sign that the body is responding to treatment. Side-effects are
therefore to a certain extent therapeutically desirable.
With an adequate dose, redness and/or swelling of up to five centimetres
in diameter will form at the injection site after about six to eight
hours. This local reaction is associated with itching and will persist for not
more than three days. If the local reaction occurs to a lesser extent after
about 2.5 weeks of treatment, a further increase in dose can be undertaken.
This can often result in the local reaction once again having a diameter
of up to five centimetres. The dose is increased once or twice at
the beginning of therapy. After about nine weeks of uninterrupted use
of the same dose, the local reaction will decline and finally disappear
altogether.
The following side-effects may also occur at the beginning of treatment
and be experienced as unpleasant: fatigue, flu-like sensation or
below and reference is made to the typical side-effects and the readily
observed therapeutic effects.
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Aye. And mistletoe or viscum album will deal with certain types of sacral cancers and bowel cancers, and of epilepsy, if individualised.. See Meditative Provings...you don't need ill-effects if you give the right potency for the case
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Aye. And mistletoe or viscum album will deal with certain types of sacral cancers and bowel cancers, and of epilepsy, if individualised.. See Meditative Provings...you don't need ill-effects if you give the right potency for the case


Still withchcraft quackery.


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And sorcery and familiar spirits (of the humanism type)
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http://www.madelineevans.com/MeditativeProvings.html

plus advice on prescribing and other channelled information on human development and esoteric aspects of health and disease.

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http://www.madelineevans.com/MeditativeProvingsVol1.html

Meditative Provings Vol. 1

The first volume of Meditative Provings (now affectionately known as 'The Purple Book' from the colour of its cover) contains in note form a summary of 52 new remedies proved through meditation by several groups of homeopaths in the late 1990s. The remedy pictures and symptoms were intuited, channelled or experienced physically, emotionally and spiritually. They include the usual mental and physical symptoms of a remedy but also its spiritual aspects and the way in which it can be used to clear psychic or spiritual blocks and to further spiritual development. Each remedy is also linked with the chakras.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homeopathy effective for 0 out of 68 illnesses, study finds
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-new s/homeopathy-therapeutic-dead-end-systematic-review-no-evidence-it-wor ks-a6884356.html

Treatment has 'no discernible convincing effects beyond placebo'
Siobhan Fenton @siobhanfenton Friday 19 February 2016
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A leading scientist has declared homeopathy a "therapeutic dead-end" after a systematic review concluded the controversial treatment was no more effective than placebo drugs.

Professor Paul Glasziou, a leading academic in evidence based medicine at Bond University, was the chair of a working party by the National Health and Medical Research Council which was tasked with reviewing the evidence of 176 trials of homeopathy to establish if the treatment is valid.

A total of 57 systematic reviews, containing the 176 individual studies, focused on 68 different health conditions - and found there to be no evidence homeopathy was more effective than placebo on any.


Homeopathy is an alternative medicine based on the idea of diluting a substance in water. According to the NHS: “Practitioners believe that the more a substance is diluted in this way, the greater its power to treat symptoms. Many homeopathic remedies consist of substances that have been diluted many times in water until there is none or almost none of the original substance left.”

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The review found “no discernible convincing effects beyond placebo” and concluded “there was no reliable evidence from research in humans that homeopathy was effective for treating the range of health conditions considered".

Writing in a blog for the British Medical Journal, Professor Glasziou states: “As chair of the working party which produced the report I was simply relieved that the arduous journey of sifting and synthesising the evidence was at an end. I had begun the journey with an ‘I don’t know attitude’, curious about whether this unlikely treatment could ever work… but I lost interest after looking at the 57 systematic reviews which contained 176 individual studies and finding no discernible convincing effects beyond placebo.”

He continues: “I can well understand why Samuel Hahnemann- the founder of homeopathy- was dissatisfied with the state of 18th century medicine’s practices, such as blood-letting and purging and tried to find a better alternative.


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“But I would guess he would be disappointed by the collective failure of homeopathy to carry on his innovative investigations, but instead continue to pursue a therapeutic dead-end.”

In the UK, two NHS hospitals provide homeopathy, as well as a number of GP practices.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had always thought about sueing a homeopathic company for selling nothing. The supposed active ingredient has been diluted that many times that its not traceable.
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