What Really Hit WTC South on 9/11/2001 ?

[Indubitably]

NO plane hit either of the towers of the WTC on September 11, 2001 despite faked footage of a supposed ’plane’ hitting the South Tower being broadcast repeatedly by media corporations within minutes of a fireball erupting from its side. The fake ‘plane’ footage was shown around the world. It shapes the way people think about the crime. But a fake is a fake regardless of how many fakers were involved.

I believe (and so do many others) that the crimes of 9/11 were committed by a large number of people whose minds had been corrupted by mind-control programmes. Those who are unaware of the role of mind-control in modern times are willingly ignorant. The lower ranks of these criminals have been manipulated by evil men. They were, on that day, virtual slaves. Slaves to an evil, satanic agenda. Products of systematic abuse. Recruited from orphanages and prisons. Slaves to an evil, satanic agenda imposed on them to attack the free and innocent people of the USA and its great Constitution in an attempt, eventually, to impose upon the USA (and other nations as a response to that tragedy) a fake ’war on terror’, a permanent ’state of emergency’ (this ushered in by the Patriot Act, itself drafted by evil men) and leading, eventually, to a Jesuit/Zionist tyranny within the USA, this after infiltrating high offices of lawful government, police, fire departments, defence and port authorities, security agencies and lawful media corporations. It was these slaves, not lawful government or lawful organisations, who, having infiltrated and been planted, colluded in carrying out their individual parts of those crimes - the result being the terrible murder of 3,000 innocent people in New York at the WTC complex under the false claim that the real murderers were 19 hijackers on hijacked planes armed with little more than boxcutters. The crimes of 9/11 were certainly planned well in advance and, to a great extent, they are STILL ongoing. The recruitment and use of false witnesses are of course part of the crime of 9/11.

Chek insists a plane struck the WTC South on 9/11/2001. But Chek is an angry man. He claims the truth movement is being divided over the issue of NPT. Well, Chek, the truth movement is not divided by establishing the truth of anything. You must understand that the entire population of the world minus the criminals who committed those crimes are its members. You must realise, and accept, that after 6 years of misinformation the issue of fakery and deception in these media images has forced its way to recognition. And that’s great.


WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AT THE WTC SOUTH ON 9.11.2001 ?

1. Damage done to the Antenna on the North Tower of WTC (which was no doubt part of the plan to deceive the world) made live television communications of the unfolding tragedy in New York available to only a handful of television stations.

2. The scale of fakery, manipulation and perversion from televised images from media corporations who broadcast live from New York on that day is truly huge. The fakery not only consists of co-ordinated broadcast of fake plane images. In many cases it included removing entire New York landscapes (both foreground and backdrop) so as to make us lose the context of what was happening. It even included the replay of material that had been faked in advance, the sudden change in the scene being shown to viewers by introducing another, less relevant scene, the introduction of ‘eyewitnesses’ who, in many cases, were either employees of media corporations or individuals and experts defrosted so fast that they were suddenly available to ’explain’ what was happening. Time after time vital televised data is obscured from our view by the strange insertion of banners or other impediments. It becomes almost predictable. In other cases frames are cut out of later broadcasts, though they showed crucial events. The televised material is, therefore, a mess.

3. Chek is satisfied that the flight path of the mythical ‘plane’ that struck the WTC South was close to that proposed in the NIST report. Having presented a diagram he thinks the ‘plane’ avoided being filmed that morning by helicopter by one of those amazing coincidences of 9/11, having had its approach entirely blocked from the filmer of the morning live broadcast.

4. Check offers no suggestion on the height above ground level of the mythical ‘plane‘in the final 10 seconds or so of its supposed flight.

5. Chek believes the evening broadcast is compatible with the morning broadcast. He admits that he sees a ‘plane’ disappear behind the North Tower after being plainly visible in the evening broadcast. He believes the plane is travelling at hundreds of miles an hour from right to left of the evening broadcast. He even believes it flew miles during its final filmed approach. And he even sees in the evening broadcast the approach of a ‘plane’ for many seconds. But all of this, Chek says, is a ‘plane’ that just happens to have been hidden by simple geometric facts from the morning live broadcast.

What are the odds of a helicopter purposely filming the twin towers under attack for many seconds but NOT picking up a glimpse of the approach of a large passenger airliner that appears to be in full view for many seconds in the evening newscast of the same event ? Are they not fantastically, incredibly huge ? What forces conspired so often on that day to wreck the sight of what was actually going on from those who were watching television ? What motivated editors to blank out entire landscapes ? What motivates the silence over this 6 years of media silence on the real background to this material ? Why post huge banners on top of crucial footage ? Why play ‘live’ shots that were, in fact, delayed ? How can we have at our disposal ‘eyewitnesses to planes’ and ‘plane’ material within seconds of that fireball erupting at WTC South ?

No Chek, you want to focus on your fortuitous and improbable film angles in the morning clip. You do not want us to look, in detail, at the multiple examples of manipulation, of fakery, of lies, of omission, that feature in much of this material. It’s not for you to admit manipulation of backgrounds and foregrounds. These you gloss over. These things mean nothing to you. But people will no longer tolerate such an attitude.

I will not answer you with geometry Chek. I will even admit that the helicopter on that morning was, amazingly, located in just such a position that it obscures (against all the odds) the path you suggest. That’s because I have something better than that to offer. I COULD bore everyone with showing the statistical improbability of such a location. But I will answer your post after first saying you have in no way explained by geometry the approach of that ‘plane’ to WTC South in the evening broadcast. Nor have you even tried.

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AT WTC SOUTH ?

1. Small charges planted by the 9/11 criminals and secretly installed in office walls near the outer edge of the structure of WTC South at the area of the ‘gash’ were detonated at the moment of the supposed ‘plane‘ strike at WTC South. These small charges were designed to create what SEEMS to be a ‘plane hole’ and were detonated at the same time as a huge fireball erupted from the newly made hole (this coming from hidden tanks of combustible fuel that had been installed in those same areas) burst alight from the tower through the newly created ‘gash’ on those same floor levels.

2. Thus, the illusion was created to the public (massaged by the introduction of a fake ‘plane’by media criminals) of a real plane having made a great hole in the South Tower.

3. Within minutes of the fireball at the South Tower a missile was fired directly in to the South Tower. NOT A PLANE. That missile, fired directly in to the South Tower within minutes of the fireball is the object that really struck the South Tower. It was aimed at the same floors of the ‘gash’ and yet it went completely unmentioned by the media on that day.

4. ‘What missile ?’ you will say. The answer is that it’s one of several missiles reported as having been fired at the WTC that day by police, firemen, port authorities etc.

5. As documentary evidence, please turn to the following link -

http://www.archive.org/details/nbc200109110831-0912

THE VIDEO EVIDENCE OF WHAT REALLY STRUCK THE WTC SOUTH

The above footage contains NBC 4’s televised broadcast on the morning of 9.11.2001 during these events. Much of their broadcast material is live. Not all. Here is their televised output between 8:31 am - 9:12 am (September 11, 2001)

Please go first on this material to the following points -

a) 31’ 55’’

b) At 31’55’’of this live broadcast a fireball erupts out of the South Tower. The local time is clear. Once again NO PLANE is seen by anyone in the studio or by television viewers. No. Enter the 'eyewitness' stage. A caller to the station, who just happens to be a producer on the ’Today’ show begins to attribute the South Tower fireball to a large plane which SHE CLAIMS TO HAVE SEEN. (This same ’eyewitness’ had been introduced to the broadcast at 30’ 13’’).

c) Notice that the fireball on the live transmission is created at around the very time when the above caller says -

EW - ‘Oh ! Another one just hit !!! - Something else just hit. A very large plane just flew directly over my building, and there’s been another collision. Can you see it ? (garbled)…and THAT looks more like a 737 …. A very large plane ……

/

This statement is followed by a second ‘eyewitness’ who reports a jet plane coming from the South. Colliding with the WTC South.

/

Ok, so it certainly SEEMS like a plane hit WTC South. Two ‘eyewitnesses’ say so although (as already seen)for the second time a plane does NOT appear on the live broadcast.

But not so fast !

Move on later in this same transmission.

Go next to 31’ 47’’ and watch closely the background to the shot at that time - it's a closeup of the WTC - That background (if you look to the right of the North Tower) is amazingly shifting around before our very eyes ! It continues for several seconds. Clear evidence of fakery.

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And now, the MISSILE

Go to 33’ 02’’. Bear in mind that only a minute or so has passed since the exploding fireball at the South Tower. We can work out the exact local time easily. Watch the scene closely.

Look at the banner covering the bottom of this live broadcast. This is ’live’ footage so it comes from around 09 07 local New York time.

(The ‘LIVE’ banner is as you see at the top left of the screen).

The lower banner at this very time has two parts ('WORLD TRADE CENTER') and also ('NEW YORK CITY').

Notice very closely the left bottom corner of this segment of the footage - very close to the word ’WORLD’ in that lower banner from 33’ 02 onwards. You are about to see a missile appearing that flies directly in to the South Tower of the WTC. It appears at around 33’ 06’' and it has entered the building by 33’ 08’’.

THIS is the object that struck the WTC South on 9.11.2001. A MISSILE.

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I am a Christian. I trust him. He is the God of all truth. His will be done.

[chek]

I assume this waffle is your answer to the September Clueless thread.

And as usual its chock full of your egregiously uninformed 'beliefs' and short on any facts whatsoever.

In case you haven't twigged yet - without the benefit of your marvellous hindsight - nobody expected the second strike.
Every news outlet was round the other side filming the impact damage to the north face of the North Tower.

How spooky is that?

Don't worry though, I understand the quantum level of disappointment of finding out your media fakery belief is a complete crock, and a poorly executed con at that.

P.S. Just an afterthought - did you ever get a single 'fact' about 911 that didn't come from one of your favourite disinfo videos?

[John White]

[John White]

I tell you what though: if you could be big enough to actually stand by the meaning of your own words, and have the courage to do what is nessacary to really uphold the love of truth, and admit that the evidence you have been shown here has demonstrated to you that "September Clues" is seriously flawed:

Then you would be a big man indeed: a rare man: a true hero

[Indubitably]

The mathematics has never been offered by Chek. He has merely offered a flight path which at no time allows sight of the supposed 'plane' in the morning broadcast. This I have agreed to as far as the morning broadcast is concerned.

It is a mathematical fact that a missile is seen on live television entering the South Tower of the WTC within a few minutes of the fireball.

And since my thread is entitled 'What Really Hit WTC South on 9/11' I note that, once again, you have nothing to say.

Tell us please, if you can. What of this missile ?

As for resigning, yes, I shall. Just as soon as you talk about the subject matter of this new thread.

[chek]

[John White]

[chek]

[Indubitably]

Some helicopter pilot, right ? Wonder if he can be picked up later ?

I resign as promised and leave you to your agenda.


Thanks for the chance to present my findings.

[Stefan]

Jesus that was painful - yes of course it was a helicopter, you can even see the rotor blades! What do you mean "some pilot" he flew in a straight line - behind the towers.

Why don't you toddle off and listen to the latest Nico Haupt youtube video where he accuses David Ray Griffin of being a "Gay Gestapo" who sniffs Steven Jones' shoes (I'm not making this up people) - after all that is the level of research you loons have sunk to recently....

[chek]

[chek]

[John White]

[John White]

[Stefan]

Thanks lads, good to see you too.

[Newspeak International]

Just viewing the video after a few rewinds it took 5 minutes to establish it was a helicopter.

I thought that was supposed to be indesputable evidence of what hit tower 2?

You've just shot yourself in the proverbial foot mate,well done.

Indubitably is either a poor researcher,or works for the other side to discredit other more significant anomalies.

On the DRG thing, I thought I saw him on video talking about a new way of governing the world due to the old way not working, though I may have dreamt it!

[Indubitably]

It's NOT a helicopter. It's a missile. If you disagree, fine. It's thinly disguised as a helicopter, for sure. You see it approaches at high speed through the very area where, a minute or so before, was a huge fireball erupting from the South Tower. It's flight has hardly been recognised by 9/11 researchers to date. Why not consider the facts ?

To suggest a helicopter was hanging around in that area waiting to fly at high speed so close to the damaged South Tower of the WTC is not supported by that live broadcast film or by any other source. One of the effects of this missile at the WTC are able to be described. Look again at the broadcast. Its arrival created electronic interference on the televised live broadcast at the very moment it hits the tower - as you see the next second in the very same televised live broadcast. Look again !

Numerous reports exist of missiles being fired at the WTC that day. This was surely one of them. Hardly appreciated before. A missile fired at the WTC which followed the explosion at the WTC South by a few minutes at most.

Here are some relevant transcripts of testimony given by officers/eyewitnesses on that day and others involved on that day which support the claim that missiles were involved -

MISSILES

(pa-police-reports01.pdf page 20)
Alan T. DeVona
Chronological Report of the WTC Radio Transmissions on 09/11/01

“0908 Detective Sgt. Zika reports possible missile launch off of the Woolworth Building and requests to have CPD contact NYPD to check the Woolworth Building.”

(pa-police-reports01.pdf page51)
Detective Sergeant Raymond DiLena
The Port Authority of NY & NJ Memorandum
Page 1

“Upon exiting the vehicle Detective Molina informed us that NYPD Citywide put out a report that a third aircraft was approaching and that persons unknown were shooting from the Woolworth Building.”

(pa-police-reports01.pdf page 61)
P.O. Anthony L. Croce
Handwritten Memorandum
Page 3

“I heard reports of secondary bomb explosions, missiles being shot at towers and others.”

(pa-police-reports01.pdf page 77)
Dennis P. Stafford
The Port Authority of NY & NJ Report
Page 2

“Upon our arrival at the World Trade Center, Barclay Street ramp, the undersigned made contact with Detective D. Rogers, who reported that initial information was being received from witnesses in the vicinity of West Broadway and Barclay Streets that a missile may have been fired from the American Express Building into Tower #1.”


(pa-police-reports02.pdf page 19)
R.P. Mendenhall
The Port Authority of NY & NJ Memorandum
Page 1

“At this time Detective deMello and myself were in the intersection of Barclay and Greenwich when three unidentified white males in business attire ran up to me and started to scream that a missile had been fired into Tower Two from the top of the Woolworth Building. I looked up to the roof of the Woolworth building and there appeared to be smoke coming from the very top of the building. At this time Detective deMello and myself ran to the Woolworth building. As we entered I immediately asked for the head of security. An un-identified black male in a security uniform ran forward and asked how he could help. I told him I needed a secure elevator to the roof, his response was “follow me”. We walked to a bank of elevators when the doors of one car opened. Two men stepped out of the elevator. A man appearing to be Hispanic identified himself as the building superintendent; he was wearing an ID card on his shirt. The security guard seemed to know him so we took him at his word. He advised Detective deMello and myself that the roof was secure. I told him that we had a report that a missile had been fired from the roof of this building and he advised us that it wasn’t a missile it was an aircraft, a big aircraft. He further advised that he was on the roof when it crashed into Tower Two. At this time we left the building and started to run back towards the Barclay Street ramp.”

(pa-police-reports04.pdf page 22)
Detective Sergeant Thomas Bomengo
The Port Authority of NY & NJ Memorandum
Page 1

“Members of the JFK Detective Squad took cover under the scaffolding when a transmission came over a New York City radio that ‘they are shooting from the Woolworth Building’. Repeated attempts were made to utilize the PAPD 800 MHz to confirm this but all attempts failed.”


(pa-transcript010.pdf page 9)
Path-channel 021 – Radio Trainmaster (R2)
Page 9

"PAPD OFFICER 2-ALPHA: Desk from 2-alpha…(Inaudible)(STATIC)explosion.
(Inaudible) desk, copy? Desk from 2-alpha!
PAPD OFFICER DESK: Go, 2-alpha.
PAPD OFFICER: Advise (Inaudible)… there is something … looks like a missile coming out of the wall of the (Inaudible) … the second building."


(pa-transcript016.pdg page 3)
Newark Airport – Ch. 026 – Radio – CPD
Page 3
MALE C: The Woolworth Building! The Woolworth Building! They’re shooting at the Trade Center from the Woolworth Building!


(pa-transcript028.pdf page 16)
September 11, 2001 – CPD – Ch. O23 – SGT’S Desk – 201-216-6800
Page 16

GREG AT TRADE CENTER: It’s either a missile or … it’s something with the Woolworth Building (Inaudible).


(pa-transcript036.pdf page 9)
WTC – CH.08 – POLICE DESK – 3541 LEFT
Page 9

"PAPD – DESK: Can you send units over to the Woolworth Building to check the roof? There’s a possible … they said it was … we just had a second explosion, possibly a missile from the roof of the Woolworth Building.
FEMALE OPERATOR: The Woolworth Building?
PAPD – DESK: Yeah, on … on Broadway."

(pa-transcript041.pdf page 16)
WTC CH. 15 – NYC EMS DIRECT LINE
Page 16

"MALE: (Overlap) Channel – W, this is eight-five, eight-one … (Overlap/Inaudible) reporting possible missiles (Inaudible) from … the Woolworth Building.
MALE: PPG(?), if you are monitoring discussion here (Inaudible) have them check the Woolworth Building, (Inaudible) copy."

(Source -
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=38371&Disp=3&Tra ce=on)

[chek]

[telecasterisation]

What would be the purpose of firing a missile at either WTC after both had already exhibited a fireball?

The world's attention would be focused on the towers, every professional and amateur camera in the vicinity would be trained on the smoking buildings and you fly a missile into the frame????

'It' (the helicopter), is not travelling at high speed, it wanders through at a quite leisurely pedestrian pace.

I could understand someone mistaking an unidentified blur heading towards the area PRE-event, but not after both buildings have exploded.

Having planted charges in the WTC, fooled the world into believing there were aircraft, got countless millions of people looking at that exact spot - you then launch a 'just to make sure'? NOBODY is THAT silly.

[Dogsmilk]

[Indubitably]

OK, ignore if you choose the clear evidence of electronic interference to the live televised broadcast, interference which occurs at the very moment the supposed 'helicopter' gets to the WTC. Let's also ignore the fact that this incident is immediately followed on the broadcast (live at the time) to show to viewers the fireball that had been recorded minutes BEFORE. Those guys are in a hurry to cut the live transmission. Temporarily, of course.

Any viewer who may have seen the object in question would certainly have been confused by this switching from LIVE flying object at the South Tower to the pre-recorded fireball that actually happened minutes BEFORE. Clever, right ? And thus LIVE to RECORDED events happens before we have a reasonable chance to see what's happening.

Missiles come in many shapes and sizes. In this case the missile looks similar to (but by no means identical to) a helicopter. It's body is cylindrical. Despite other features that look like rotors it DOES resemble a missile.

Why ignore verbal and written testimony of many policemen, port authority workers, etc. who speak of/write of missiles being fired from various buildings in Manhattan, including smoke being seen on the top floors of the Woolworth Building - reason enough for officers to attempt an investigation. Their testimonies have always been downplayed. I think such reports are worthy of belief.

I also know, for sure, not all missiles are fast flying. Nor are all missiles large or small. This missile looks in some respects similar to a helicopter (as Chek says) but in other respects it sure looks like a missile. It is flying quite fast. Not as fast as a normal missile, for sure. I have not yet made an estimate of its speed. Perhaps others can ?

That's my opinion and now its been shared.

As for the purpose of sending it to the South Tower, there were people on those floors, still alive, some of whom could have told the truth of what had really caused the fireball etc. had they lived to talk.

Whether the missile was armed with explosives is not clear. That it electronically affected the quality of the live broadcast of the television station IS clear. But the live broadcast is cut off shortly afterwards.

I am not a specialist. But from what I see (having played the film many times) I estimate the object is travelling AT LEAST 120 miles per hour and is visible for approximately 0.6 seconds (more than 15 frames of video). During this time it flies a distance AT LEAST half the width of the South Tower during its approach to the WTC.

[Stefan]

Want to comment on how this slow moving, exhaustless, helicopter shaped, rotor blade driven missile managed to crash into the WTC without causing any visible damage?

It hasn't escaped your attention that it flies behind, sorry into, the WTC many floors below the impact damage? Why isn't there a mark on the WTC visible on any 9/11 footage at the height it flies?

[marky 54]

[gruts]

[gruts]

[Indubitably]

Gruts,

Posts like yours remind us that the vast majority of plane huggers simply will not and possibly cannot listen to others. At the fourth time of writing -

WHAT ABOUT THE ELECTRONIC INTERFERENCE IN TRANSMISSION THAT ENDS THE LIVE BROADCAST ? Do you see it ? Do you think it has a cause ? It does, right ? Have you (em) thought about that ? You don't even refer to it. You simply have not listened. You are a bit thick, yes ? You have problems reading, perhaps ? You are not the 'sharpest tool in the box', right ? Or are you just being silly ?

Tell us, Gruts, did you ever see this 'helicopter' on the footage before it was showed to you here on this forum ? No. Have you really considered the strange shape of this 'helicopter' ? Have you wondered why a helicopter would fly in this way so close to these towers - within a minute or two of the fireball ? The true answer is surely no to all these questions. Therefore, Gruts, please sit down and LEARN this time. OK ? Can you please try? Are you free to understand or try to understand what other people are trying to saying to you ? Geez !

In the shot being shown LIVE on television we APPEAR to have a missile approaching from the east. BUT (and please concentrate on what I write next) -

The EVENING news broadcast APPEARS to have a plane approaching the south tower from the WEST, yes ? Am I right or not ? Now I don't want to go too fast for you. Let me ask you a question - (please think carefully before you answer) -

DID the second 'plane' approach the South Tower from the West ??????

What is your answer Gruts ?

Once you've sorted out the difference between your own arse and your elbow you will be a useful person to talk to.

These media images are very carefully made. We cannot assume anything is true. It is entirely possible that the images we see are reversed (so that left is right and vice-versa as far as flying objects is concerned etc).

Notice that the arrival of this object causes electronic interference in the transmission. The transmission antenna in the North tower is involved and this object, somehow, creates the electronic problems with the live broadcast. Right ? Problems that cause the media to turn off the live broadcast and to return to old tape of the fireball.

Are you still there Gruts ?

[gruts]

[Indubitably]

Gruts,

At the fifth time of asking, will you admit that the live television broadcast is affected by electronic interference in the television picture within a second or so that this object gets to the Twin Towers ?

Sorry to be so persistent but it's just hard to get a straight answer from plane huggers these days.

Thank You

[gruts]

when will you finally admit that it's not a missile, but a helicopter?

[Indubitably]

Stefan says the ‘helicopter’ in the live broacast flew BEHIND the towers

But Gruts says the very opposite ! Let me quote him -

‘it appears to pass IN FRONT OF THE NORTH SIDE of the tower - stop the film at 33:08 and THIS IS QUITE CLEAR’

Em !!!! ????? Errr.....!!!!????

You plane huggers should get your act together.