FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist  Chat Chat  UsergroupsUsergroups  CalendarCalendar RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Eugenics, 'overpopulation' & Population Control
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    9/11, 7/7 & the War on Freedom Forum Index -> The War On Children, Marriage and the Family
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Wokeman
Validated Poster
Validated Poster


Joined: 27 Jul 2005
Posts: 881
Location: Woking, Surrey, UK

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: Eugenics, 'overpopulation' & Population Control Reply with quote

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/april2007/090407bioweapons.ht m

Government Report: Bio-Weapons Could Be Used To Combat Overpopulation
MoD dossier outlines nightmare vision of new world order, ethnic cleansing, class warfare, brain chips by 2035

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, April 9, 2007

A British government Ministry of Defence report outlines a nightmare future society in which the population are forced to accept brain chips, immigration and urbanization ravages communities, class warfare ensues, and biological and neutron weapons are used to combat overpopulation.

The MoD's Development, Concepts & Doctrine Center drew up the document to crystallize the "future strategic context" likely to face Britain's armed forces, according to a report in the London Guardian today.

Since every deliberate action of government and industry is working to realize this future, we should look at this as a strategy plan rather than a warning of things to come.

The report hypothesizes what the world will be like in under 30 years and is an "analysis of the key risks and shocks" the planet is likely to face. It's predictions include;

- The development of neutron weapons that destroy living organs but not buildings and "make a weapon of choice for extreme ethnic cleansing in an increasingly populated world." Such weapons would be dispersed by means of unmanned vehicles, leading to "application of lethal force without human intervention, raising consequential legal and ethical issues."

- Within 30 years implanted brain chips as standard for all citizens in developed nations.

- A mass revolt on behalf of the middle classes of the developed world in opposition to rampant immigration, an urban under-class and the deterioration of social order.

- The revival of Marxism as a replacement for religion in an increasingly morally relativist age.

- Unchecked globalization that effectively ends the nation state and leads to wars based on territorial belief systems rather than country against country.

- A sharp decline in the population of white Europeans but an 81% increase in the population of sub-Saharan Africa and that of Middle Eastern countries by 132%.

- Endemic unemployment, instability and threat to the social order as a result of population increase.

- The emergence of a "terrorist coalition," an alliance of belief systems that oppose the state, from environmentalists to "ultra-nationalists" and remnants of religious groups.

The clear implication from this report is that any political or religious group that expresses opposition to the atheistic and dictatorial agenda of the state will be collectively demonized as terrorists and targeted for elimination and ethnic cleansing.

This is the very new world order that the establishment have sought to create by allowing rampant immigration, using the progress of technology to enslave us, launching endless war and shaping the course of history to construct a prison planet.

The elite are deliberately steering world events and engaging in psychological warfare to achieve this self-fulfilling apocalypse. They are hell-bent on manufacturing an end-times scenario similar to that described in Revelations, and whether you believe in the Bible or not, our future is being decided by maniacal psychopaths sworn to destroy humanity.

Every time we study government white papers and strategy documents, whether it be RAND, PNAC or any other major think tank, we come across an obsession with thinning the population by means of horrific acts of ethnic cleansing. In this instance, the plan isn't even veiled under the umbrella of terrorism, it clearly implies that states will deploy weapons of mass destruction to wipe out huge swathes of the population, and particularly those who express opposition to government.



---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------
The Internet leader in activist media - Prison Planet.tv. Thousands of special reports, videos, MP3's, interviews, conferences, speeches, events, documentary films, books and more - all for just 15 cents a day! Click here to subscribe! Find out the true story behind government sponsored terror, 7/7, Gladio and 9/11, get Terror Storm!
---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------

"...advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."

Who wrote these words in their own strategy document? The Nazis? The regime of Pol Pot?

No, it was Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, William Kristol, Donald Rumsfeld and the rest of the Neo-Con collaborators that formed the Project For a New American Century - the ideological framework of the Bush administration.

Armed Forces Journal, a mouthpiece for the military-industrial complex, last year carried a strategy plan for completely redrawing the borders of the Middle East written by retired Major Ralph Peters.

The document cites peak oil, an economic crash in 2008 and global warming as reasons for a chaotic convergence that will require harsh action on behalf of government.

"Oh, and one other dirty little secret from 5,000 years of history," writes Peters, "Ethnic cleansing works."

"There will be no peace. At any given moment for the rest of our lifetimes, there will be multiple conflicts in mutating forms around the globe. Violent conflict will dominate the headlines, but cultural and economic struggles will be steadier and ultimately more decisive. The de facto role of the US armed forces will be to keep the world safe for our economy and open to our cultural assault. To those ends, we will do a fair amount of killing."

Ethnic cleansing is also popular amongst the establishment scientific community who advocate mass scale eugenics programs to "cull" humanity down to manageable levels. One such example is Dr. Erik Pianka, who made headlines last year when he gave a speech to the Texas Academy of Science in which he advocated the need to exterminate 90% of the population through the airborne ebola virus. The vast majority of his audience, students, scientists and professors alike, stood and cheered when Pianka labeled humanity a bacteria that had to be eliminated.

Similar sentiments are echoed by people like Prince Philip, who in the foreword to his 1986 book If I Were an Animal, wrote, "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."

"The simplest answer is that the world's population should be about two billion, and we've got about six billion now," media mogul Ted Turner told E Magazine, an environmentalist publication.

Turner went even further in an interview with Audubon Magazine.

"A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."

In a 1991 interview with the UNESCO Courier, Jacques-Yves Cousteau, the famous Emmy award winning film producer who went on to be a kingpin of the environmental movement said,

"It's terrible to have to say this. World population must be stabilized and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day."

The global elite and the military-industrial complex have already sworn to inflict genocide to ethnically cleanse world population down to levels that are more easy to control and enslave. This is the ultimate end game of the New World Order - giving birth to the apocalypse and manufacturing hell on earth.

No longer can this be dismissed as a paranoid conspiracy theory when the very architects of this horror are openly discussing it on a regular basis in their own planning documents.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ravenmoon
Validated Poster
Validated Poster


Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 410
Location: Sheffield

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice cheery outlook the PTB envision isn't it Rolling Eyes
_________________
"The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." George Orwell
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Ravenmoon
Validated Poster
Validated Poster


Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 410
Location: Sheffield

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chemtrails, Nano-Tech and Morgellons

http://www.disclose.tv/view_video.php?viewkey=55b24c4e168c5fc2ebd4&pag e=&viewtype=&category=

One possibility

_________________
"The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." George Orwell
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
uselesseater
Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Trustworthy Freedom Fighter


Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Posts: 629
Location: Leeds

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the Morgellons is rather scary. How can you protect yourself against that?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
TonyGosling
Editor
Editor


Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 12103
Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: BBC Radio 4 promote population control Reply with quote

BBC Radio 4 promote population control

Reith lectures - given by a yank at the Royal Society who is applauded by the British upper class - Lord Reith would not just turn in his grave, he would stroll out and bring the entire building down with a satchel charge. Thus reducing the world's population as these elitists are mooting.

Yes, anyone who advocates a reduction in world population is a coffin volunteer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/reith/

[img]http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/hitler/hitler-reichstag.jpg
[/img]

_________________
www.rethink911.org
www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org
www.mediafor911truth.org
www.pilotsfor911truth.org
www.mp911truth.org
www.ae911truth.org
www.rl911truth.org
www.stj911.org
www.l911t.com
www.v911t.org
www.thisweek.org.uk
www.abolishwar.org.uk
www.elementary.org.uk
www.radio4all.net/index.php/contributor/2149
http://utangente.free.fr/2003/media2003.pdf
"The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic poison which alienates the possessor from the community" Carl Jung
https://37.220.108.147/members/www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
TonyGosling
Editor
Editor


Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 12103
Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: BBC Radio 4 promote population control Reply with quote

BBC Radio 4 promote population control

Reith lectures - given by a yank at the Royal Society who is applauded by the British upper class - Lord Reith would not just turn in his grave, he would stroll out and bring the entire building down with a satchel charge. Thus reducing the world's population as these elitists are mooting.

Yes, anyone who advocates a reduction in world population is a coffin volunteer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/reith/


_________________
www.rethink911.org
www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org
www.mediafor911truth.org
www.pilotsfor911truth.org
www.mp911truth.org
www.ae911truth.org
www.rl911truth.org
www.stj911.org
www.l911t.com
www.v911t.org
www.thisweek.org.uk
www.abolishwar.org.uk
www.elementary.org.uk
www.radio4all.net/index.php/contributor/2149
http://utangente.free.fr/2003/media2003.pdf
"The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic poison which alienates the possessor from the community" Carl Jung
https://37.220.108.147/members/www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Caz
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 676

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Eugenics Reply with quote

from: http://www.watch.pair.com/charter.html

Quote:
Charter Schools, Character Education & the Eugenics Internationale
Behind the Conservative Curtain:
Pseudo Grassroots Organizations Front
for Corporate/Government Takeover
…the princes of this world, that come to nought… I Corinthians 2:6

During revision of a 1999 Charter Schools report, research proved that the strategies for Charter Schools, Character Education and Charitable Choice/Faith-Based Welfare Reform originated in the same private foundations. Also presenting itself was the fact that these private foundations were comprised of the same multi-national corporations which are actively involved in a worldwide program of ‘eugenics’ ~ race science and depopulation through the reduction of ‘inferior’ races.



Refer to

1) The 'Pushing eugenics on school tv programme' thread: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11575

2) A rather shocked teacher in Australia working on supply being given the film Gattaca to show to a class of students: trailer on youtube:



Link


3) A rather shocked me, at seeing Gattaca again with respect to schools, in an article I felt I could hardly take seriously.
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:3KHOC3q5wN0J:nwabr.org/education/ articles/2004Lessons/EUGENICS.doc+schools+eugenics+classroom&hl=en&ct= clnk&cd=8&gl=au

Quote:
Resources
Chapter 5: The Nazi Eugenics Programs. http://www.georgetown.edu/research/nrcbl/hsbioethics/alumni/unit4_5.ht m
“Eugenics and Population Control: The 1935 Nazi World Pupulation Conference, and the 1994 U.N. Cairo Population Conference – More of the Same”.

http://members.tripod.com~american_almanac/eugenics.htm

Video: “In the Shadow of the Reich: Nazi Medicine”. Discusses the racial theories and eugenics principles of Nazi Germany.
Video: “Deadly Inheritance”. A documentary of a woman who may carry the gene that causes Huntington’s disease.
Video: “Gattaca”.


Other websites expressing concern:

from: http://web.monroecc.edu/jwaasdorp/eugenics

Quote:
My interest in the eugenics movement stems from my fear that the basic principles of the eugenics debate, even its most discredited aspects, are resurfacing in the 1990s. To revisit the eugenics movement of the early 20th-century is to be reminded of the harm the movement intended toward those members of society least able to defend themselves. History, in this case, may help to provide an antidote to contemporary manifestations of eugenicist arguments--the I. Q. debate and the right’s anti-immigrant campaign.


from: http://www.rethinkingschools.org/archive/13_03/eugenic.shtml

Quote:
The Forgotten History of Eugenics
High-stakes testing has its origins in the eugenics movements and racist assumptions about IQ. We forget, at our own peril, that this legacy hangs over current demands for increased testing


from: http://www.plaidder.com/eugen.htm

Quote:
There are a few major ways in which eugenist thought is still shaping American policy:
Intelligence Testing. One of the main tenets of eugenist thought was that intelligence was hereditary--that you got your basic smarts from your parents and their ancestors and that learning was a secondary process that might enhance your natural capabilities but couldn't substitute for raw talent. Intelligence was seen as one of the main criteria of "fitness" and a lot of effort went into developing ways to measure it and thereby pick out the "fit" folks who should be cultivated and encouraged to breed. Cyril Burt, the man in charge of intelligence testing in the British elementary school system during the 'teens, was a member of the Eugenics Education Society and, not surprisingly, "discovered" a correlation between low intelligence and poverty. In order to prove this, Burt soon started having to fudge his data, and by the end of his career he may even have been inventing phantom collaborators and supporting studies that did not exist. But because Burt's thesis could be used to justify preferential treatment for the children of middle-class or rich families, and to justify neglecting the children of poor ones, it was accepted at the time.

Yikes! This is all pretty creepy. How can this be stopped?

I think the first step is education. Disseminate the URL to this page to interested parties. You can also learn more about the history of eugenics in the books listed below, from which most of the information in this summary was taken:

Harris, Jose. Private Lives, Public Spirit: A Social History of Britain 1870-1914. Oxford: Oxford U P, 1993.
Jones, Greta. Social Hygiene in Twentieth Century Britain. London: Croom Helm, 1986.
Mazumdar, Pauline M.H. Eugenics, Human Genetics and Human Failings: The Eugenics Society, its sources and its critics in Britain. London: Routledge, 1992. [This is the most comprehensive history of the Eugenics movement itself; the others talk more about its impact on other aspects of society.]
Soloway, Richard A. Demography and Degeneration: Eugenics and the Declining Birthrate in Twentieth-Century Britain. Chapel Hill: U of North Carolina P, 1990.
If enough people understand where this kind of rhetoric comes from, maybe it will start to lose some of its power. That's what I hope, anyway. Meanwhile, the only thing we can do is try to keep Newt and his cohorts as far away from the reins of power as possible.


from: http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/701/education_eugenics/

Quote:
The ugly little irony is this: The core of No Child Left Behind is that struggling children will be left behind another year. And another year and another year.

You know and I know that this is not an educational opportunity program—because you offer no opportunities, no hope, no plan, no funding. Rather, it is the new Republican social Darwinism, educational eugenics: Identify the nation’s loser-class early on. Trap them, then train them cheap.



For the British replace 'No Child Left Behind' (aka 'No Child Left Alone') with 'Every Child Matters.'


Last edited by Caz on Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:59 am; edited 7 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Caz
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 676

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/5312928.stm


Quote:
Last Updated: Tuesday, 5 September 2006, 03:52 GMT 04:52 UK

Mr Blair wants to prevent teenage criminality
Details of the government's plan to improve the "life chances" of problem families are to be revealed.
In a speech, Tony Blair will set out a scheme to intervene before children are even born to stop them turning into troublemakers later.

He is expected to give more details of the idea, which critics say sounds too much like "eugenics".

The prime minister's speech comes during a two-day regional tour which follows his summer visit to Balmoral.

His spokesman said: "If you look at the figures of what happens to children in care and their offending rate, that is quite shocking.

"What the prime minister will be setting out is a way in which we work with those who are socially excluded to try to improve their life chances. That's the key.


"That's why this isn't just about trying to deal with the problem where relatively few numbers of individuals or families are causing disproportionate problems for society.

"It's also about helping those individuals and families improve their life chances."

Last week Mr Blair told BBC News there needed to be earlier intervention, "even pre-birth", with children of "dysfunctional families" and teenage mothers who were not in stable relationships.

'Foetal Asbo fears'

There should be sanctions against parents who refused help, he said.

But he did not explain in detail how the plans would work.

The plans were branded "foetal Asbos" in the media and also came under fire from former Labour Cabinet minister Tony Benn.

"This one about identifying troublesome children in the foetus - this is eugenics, the sort of thing Hitler talked about," he told BBC's Five Live.

'No stigma'

Children's charity NCH said Mr Blair must honour his promise to introduce lasting solutions to help the most excluded people.

NCH chief executive Clare Tickell said: "Early intervention will help families break the cycle of exclusion but it must be done in a way that does not stigmatise.

"The government must realise that families need support to change, not to be punished because they are struggling."

The Joseph Rowntree Foundation, which is hosting Mr Blair's speech, called for a balanced approach.

Its director, Lord Best, said: "The underlying causes of many of society's problems can be traced back to child poverty and, although government is making progress, there is still a long way to go to meet the prime minister's pledge to end it by 2020."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Caz
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 676

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eugenics, various websites at http://www.eugenics.net/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Caz
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 676

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.sciencelearningcentres.org.uk/WebPortal.aspx?page=15&module =rep&mode=103&idrep=2728

Quote:
Perfecting Eugene is a high-impact dance performance, aimed at KS 2 upwards, exploring the ethics and morality of eugenics (teachers resources available for download). A period of interdisciplinary research and workshops involving geneticists, pupils, artists and teachers led to the creation of the final one hour multimedia-rich performance.

The central characters in this Wellcome Trust funded piece from Ludus Dance – Mr and Mrs Baghead – are driven by the desire to have the perfect child, but at what price? Perfecting Eugene abandons conventional science teaching, using film, dance and drama to explore this ethical maze.


So is Big Pharma encouraging eugenics discussions in schools?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Caz
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 676

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eugenics, I am now belatedly discovering, is resurfacing at a fast rate. A good overview from: http://prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/270807_b_Eugenics.htm

Quote:
Eugenics Moves to the Twenty-First Century
From the elimination of undesirables from the human race; mass culling in the name of saving the earth; to altering the genetic code of humanity with advanced technology; eugenics has moved into a new era...........
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
TonyGosling
Editor
Editor


Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 12103
Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part of the Eugenics agenda is Poplulation Control. This is the psychotic oligarch's response to democracy. He or she sees the influence that ordinary people have over the way the country is governed as a 'problem' to be 'eliminated'.

In fact all Britain's homelessness could be sorted out if all the empty buildings were brought back into use.

Click the potential mansion squat below to see more....

_________________
www.rethink911.org
www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org
www.mediafor911truth.org
www.pilotsfor911truth.org
www.mp911truth.org
www.ae911truth.org
www.rl911truth.org
www.stj911.org
www.l911t.com
www.v911t.org
www.thisweek.org.uk
www.abolishwar.org.uk
www.elementary.org.uk
www.radio4all.net/index.php/contributor/2149
http://utangente.free.fr/2003/media2003.pdf
"The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic poison which alienates the possessor from the community" Carl Jung
https://37.220.108.147/members/www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Caz
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 676

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080522/tuk-working-class-has-lower -iq-6323e80.html

Press Assoc. - Thursday, May 22 04:10 am

Quote:
The working classes have lower IQs than those from wealthier backgrounds and should not be expected to win places at top universities, an academic has claimed.
Bruce Charlton, reader in evolutionary psychiatry at Newcastle University, suggested that the low numbers of working-class students at elite universities was the "natural outcome" of IQ differences between classes.
In a paper shown to the Times Higher Education magazine, Dr Charlton questioned the Government's drive to get more students from poor backgrounds into top universities like Oxford and Cambridge.
He said: "The UK Government has spent a great deal of time and effort in asserting that universities, especially Oxford and Cambridge, are unfairly excluding people from low social class backgrounds and privileging those from higher social classes.
"Yet in all this debate a simple and vital fact has been missed: higher social classes have a significantly higher average IQ than lower social classes."
The fact that so few students from poor families get into Oxbridge is not down to "prejudice" but "meritocracy", he said.
The Government criticised Dr Charlton's comments. Higher education minister Bill Rammell said: "These arguments have a definite tone of 'people should know their place'.
"There are young people with talent, ability and the potential to benefit from higher education who do not currently do so. That should concern us all."
Sally Hunt, general secretary of the University and College Union, said: "It should come as little surprise that people who enjoy a more privileged upbringing have a better start in life.
"It is up to all of us to ensure that not having access to the social and educational benefits that money provides is not a barrier to achieving one's full potential."


Also in The Scotsman:

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scitech/Working-classes-are-less-.4108 730.jp
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Caz
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 676

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Duplessis orphans' story here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duplessis_Orphans

and the suggestion this was about eugenics here:

http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol37I1/page05.htm

Quote:
Human Guinea Pigs

Another psychiatrist in the saga is Denis Lazure, president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association in 1966.

From 1999 to 2001, Lazure headed the “Support Committee for Justice for the Duplessis Orphans” — an effort that, according to Rod Vienneau, betrayed those it pretended to help. Vienneau compared Lazure’s position on the committee to “a fox in the chicken coop.”

In his memoirs, Medecin et Citoyen, published in 2002, Lazure wrote that in 1952, while interning at Hospice St. Jean de Dieu, a massive psychiatric facility in Montreal since renamed Louis-Hippolyte Lafontaine Hospital, he and five other interns regularly administered electroshock and routinely put patients into insulin comas.4

Lazure breezily described how he would “start the day pushing the button on the electrical box that sends a current to provoke an epileptic-type convulsion in tens of patients who hadn’t received any preparatory medication.”5

Then he was off to the insulin coma rooms, “half-lit, vile-smelling, with two dozen patients that we’d inject with doses of insulin strong enough to induce a coma. After several hours of excessive sedation, they’d receive a glucose injection, which usually brought them back to consciousness. It sometimes happened that we got the shock of a patient that failed to reawaken.”6

Lazure painted a disturbing picture of St. Jean de Dieu, one in which psychiatrists played with and destroyed human life. Later in 1952, Lazure left the institution for Verdun Protestant (now Douglas) Hospital, where he assisted chemical lobotomy pioneer Lehmann in tests of chlorpromazine.7

Montreal journalist Kristian Gravenor quipped, “Lazure went on to head hospitals and run the provincial health ministry, fried brains and accidental overdoses not slowing him down one bit.”8

Lazure’s statement that he and Lehmann tested chlorpromazine in 1952 lends credence to claims by Clarina Duguay and others of being forced to take the drug prior to 1953 — the year Lehmann supposedly “discovered” how to use it to straitjacket patients — and raises questions regarding how many Orphans may have been exploited as human guinea pigs.

One St. Jean de Dieu doctor who asked not to be identified estimated that chlorpromazine was being administered to 500 people at St. Jean de Dieu in 1952 — even though the drug received its first approval for human use in Canada in 1957, according to Health Canada, the government agency over such matters.9

Psychiatry Destroys Life

Children’s advocate Carol Rutz, author of A Nation Betrayed, told Freedom that based on her research, the Duplessis Orphans became prime subjects for psychiatric testing and abuse.

These children, she said, were defenseless — easy prey for ruthless doctors who inflicted pain and death under the guise of science.

Many boys and girls, she said, “had no parents to return home to, hence the extent of their abuse needed no cover-up. Who would tell? They could be beaten or drugged into submission.”

Orphans at St. Jean de Dieu were selected to receive electroshock, drugs and other “treatments” primarily based on whether or not they had immediate family members who might come to their defense or protection, said one source who worked at the facility.

Rod Vienneau said Quebec psychiatrists viewed these children, who most often came from the province’s poorest families, as “unwanted.” They emptied Quebec’s orphanages, he said, “sending the ‘unwanted’ children to the psychiatric hospitals where psychiatrists could do any experiment that they wanted to do on 100,000 children — and no one would know.” (See “He Had No Brain!”.)

Evidence suggests that many boys and girls became victims of a psychiatric eugenics* program with connections to prominent members of the U.S. and Canadian psychiatric establishments.

“Defectives” was the sweeping label that Canadian psychiatrist Charles Kirk Clarke, a founder of the Canadian Mental Health Association, applied to immigrants from eastern and central Europe.10 Another Canadian eugenicist, Helen MacMurchy, a provincial “inspector of the feeble-minded,” campaigned for sterilization to prevent certain mothers from “filling the cradle with degenerate babies.”11

Freedom addressed this subject in a 1996 cover report in its Canadian edition entitled “The Ethnic Cleansing of the ‘Mentally Unfit’ — Sterilization in Canada.” The authors wrote, “The tools of the eugenicists thus became immigration controls, birth control, sterilization and finally euthanasia as carried out by the Nazis,” noting that the first three methods had been employed in Canada — resulting in, among other things, the involuntary sterilization of thousands of women, many of them Canadian Indian or other minorities.12

With fresh allegations now surfacing that many Duplessis Orphans died or disappeared, the fourth item on the eugenicists’ agenda, euthanasia, certainly warrants official investigation.

“They Were Allowed
to Kill Defenseless Children”

Indeed, the bodies of hundreds or even thousands of Duplessis Orphans, buried near Quebec psychiatric hospitals, may today hold the key to documenting what survivors have called "organized psychiatric genocide."

Montreal attorney Daniel Lighter suggested that Quebec officials permit exhumation of bodies buried on hospital grounds to determine to what extent Orphans may have been used for psychiatric experimentation, including lobotomies, electroshock and mass drugging.

"One can certainly argue that a free society has a responsibility to unearth the good, the bad and the indifferent of its past,” Lighter told Freedom. “There is certainly a compelling amount of evidence, even outside of a courtroom, to justify looking again at this case.”

At every step of the way, the Orphans’ treatment was guided by the hand of psychiatry. Documents obtained by Freedom reveal connections between the American Psychiatric Association (APA) and Quebec psychiatric facilities where Orphans were incarcerated. As far back as 1922, photographs and other evidence show a relationship between these facilities and the APA.

In 1954, for example, the APA recognized Montreal’s Verdun Protestant (now Douglas) Hospital for “notable achievements” in research. Freedom asked APA spokesperson Jason Young what this research entailed, but as of press time, had not received an answer.

The APA imprimatur raises questions as to who benefited from the Orphans’ false internment and why, said Lighter.

"It’s a very strange link to have the APA accrediting hospitals in Quebec. Why would that be?” he asked. “It suggests that the APA was not only intimately involved but that they were coordinating the experiments. It certainly begs questions and those questions deserve answers."

A documentary that aired in September 2004 on Quebec television station TQS reported there had been roughly 300,000 children in total; 200,000 of those were adopted, while 100,000 were held in orphanages, ready for adoption but never taken. These, reporter Gary Arpin implied, were the Duplessis Orphans.

One Orphan, Jean-Guy Labrosse, 66, today a retired construction worker, authored a 1964 book about his years in Quebec institutions, My Dog’s Life, which helped to bring abuses to light. "How many of my fellow [Orphans] have died, and have gone missing?” he asked in an interview with Freedom. “And when I say missing, I mean missing without a trace. In Quebec, they were allowed to kill defenseless children.”

Rod Vienneau estimates that at least half of the Orphans incarcerated in psychiatric hospitals died or disappeared in those institutions. “If somebody disappeared, it’s because somebody got rid of the person,” he said. “They were killed or murdered.”


---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------

* British psychologist Francis Galton coined “eugenics” from the Greek eugenes, meaning “good in stock” or “well-born.” Galton’s theories on eugenics were, in turn, forwarded by psychologists and psychiatrists. In Germany, for example, Galton’s work was used by psychiatrist Ernst Rudin and others to provide the impetus for racial hygiene and genocide programs.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Caz
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 676

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/baby/clon_silver.html

Quote:
Silver: Genetic engineering is so much bigger than cloning, and people don't realize it. Genetic engineering has been with us for 20 years, and when it first came out in 1980, people didn't understand it enough to be able to be afraid of it, when, in fact, genetic engineering is much more scary than cloning.

NOVA: Why?

Silver: Genetical engineering is already perfected in animals, and it can produce incredible outcomes. We can produce mice that have been engineered not to get cancer. We can produce mice that have much, much greater learning and memory ability. In theory, we can use the same technology on human embryos to provide all sorts of health advantages to the children that emerge from those embryos. And we can go beyond that. Once we understand the genes behind personality behavior and cognitive traits, parents are going to be able to give their kids all sorts of cognitive advantages in life.

There's no question this technology can be used in this way. Most scientists are afraid to talk about it in public, because they're afraid of the reaction, but there's no geneticist today who will tell you this can't be done. They will tell you it won't be done; people won't want to do this. And I disagree, because I think that once the technology is usable in a safe way, parents will jump at the chance to give advantages to their children.

NOVA: What's so scary about that?

Silver: The scary part is the ethical dilemma that arises between the rights of individual parents who want to advantage their child and the good of society as a whole. Here those two notions come into severe conflict with each other, because genetic engineering will allow the affluent part of Western society, which will eventually include the middle class, it will allow this large group of Americans and people in other Western societies to jump ahead in terms of the advantages their children start life with. It will increase the gap between those who have money -- countries with money, people with money -- and those who don't. It will cause a permanent division potentially between these two groups of people, and that would be pretty bad for humanity.

NOVA: What do you mean by permanent? Do you mean they would reach a point where they would be genetically incompatible?

Silver: Let me tell you the two problems with this. Today, genes are handed out randomly, which means that even in the worst ghetto in the worst city in the world, there are children being born who have the potential to succeed as much as any child coming out of an upper-class neighborhood, because at the level of birth, there is the same kind of genetic diversity across the entire world. So that's kind of good. There's a limit to how far people who are in the upper socioeconomic class can go relative to people in the lower socioeconomic class. In theory, people can jump from the bottom class to the top class in every generation.

With genetic engineering, it might stop that process, because if the upper class is able to give its children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren more and more and more genetic advantages, they will move the class so far away from the people who are naturally born that the people in the natural class will have no way of jumping into this upper class, and that would be a permanent divide in society.

Eventually, if this went on long enough, it could reach the point where people in the upper genetic class could no longer breed with people who were not genetically engineered, which would lead to a division of our species into two or more separate species.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
acrobat74
Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Trustworthy Freedom Fighter


Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 831

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the role of the Harrimans (US railroad magnates, one of the major Skull&Bones families) in the financing and advancement of eugenics:

Eugenics Record Office:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_Record_Office

New York Times:
Carnegie Institution gets eugenic records (link opens .pdf document)
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=940DE6DD1E3BE03 ABC4A51DFB467838C609EDE&oref=slogin

San Fransisco Chronicle:
Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California connection
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/11/09/ING9C2QSKB 1.DTL

And here's the financing of Hitler through the Brown Brothers Harriman investment bank (with the involvement of another S&B patriarch, Prescott Bush):

Guardian:
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

_________________
Summary of 9/11 scepticism: http://tinyurl.com/27ngaw6 and www.911summary.com
Off the TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4szU19bQVE
Those who do not think that employment is systemic slavery are either blind or employed. (Nassim Taleb)
www.moneyasdebt.net
http://www.positivemoney.org.uk/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
acrobat74
Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Trustworthy Freedom Fighter


Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 831

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edwin Black, an award-winning, New York Times and international bestselling investigative author, has done some great research in the topic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Black

Quote:
War against the Weak

Black's third nonfiction book was War Against the Weak, published in 2003, documenting the forgotten rise of genocidal American eugenics in the first decades of the 20th Century, that is, the drive to create a white, blond, blue-eyed master race.

The campaign forcibly sterilized some 60,000 Americans by virtue of racist, pseudoscientific legislation in 27 states eventually upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court and made the law of the land.

The book also documents the American eugenics movement's direct financial, political and sponsorship of Nazi eugenics after the rise of Adolf Hitler in 1933 through the efforts of the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune.

These groups inspired Adolf Hitler to move his German nationalism into biological supremacy. They financed vast eugenic research networks.

The Carnegie Institution helped create the mathematical formulas defining a half-Jew, quarter-Jew, sixteen Jew and so forth which became enshrined as the Nuremberg Laws.

The Rockefeller Foundation, according to the book, financed the program that sent Mengele into Auschwitz seeking twins for monstrous experimentation.

After World War Two, the eugenics movement recoiled and renamed itself "human genetics."

War Against the Weak was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, and eventually won the 2003 International Human Rights Award from the World Affairs Council.

_________________
Summary of 9/11 scepticism: http://tinyurl.com/27ngaw6 and www.911summary.com
Off the TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4szU19bQVE
Those who do not think that employment is systemic slavery are either blind or employed. (Nassim Taleb)
www.moneyasdebt.net
http://www.positivemoney.org.uk/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Caz
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 676

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villiers Park Educational Trust has a rather conspicuous number of trustees from Barings Bank or Barings Foundation, Dexter Hutt has a marxist background. ING Barings was also involved in funding the cloning of Dolly the sheep and is involved in transgenics:

from: http://www.villierspark.org.uk/vpabout.php?r=1HEKHGAUAA&sub=3JEKWOSUAH

Quote:
About Us: Our Trustees

Anthony Loehnis CMG (Chairman)


Anthony Loehnis began his career as a diplomat in 1960, serving in Mr Khrushchev's Moscow 1961-1963. In 1967 he joined merchant bankers J Henry Schroder Wagg & Co Limited, becoming a director in the corporate finance division, before moving to the Bank of England as overseas Executive Director in 1980. Since 1989 he has been chairman and non-executive director of a number of companies, mainly in the financial services field.

In the charitable and not-for-profit area, he has been a Trustee of Villiers Park Educational Trust since 1970 and became its Chairman in 2001; a Trustee of The Baring Foundation 1988-1989 and 1994-2005; a Governor of Goodenough College since 1981; Chairman of the Centre for Economic Policy Research 1990-1999; a member of the Council of Management of the Ditchley Foundation since 1992; a member of Council and Co-Chairman of the Business Group of the Japan Society 1998-2006; a director of the UK-Japan 21st Century Group since 1990 and a Commissioner of the Public Works Loan Board 1994-2005 (Chairman 1997-2005).

Mike Baker
Mike Baker is an award-winning journalist, author, broadcaster, and consultant, specialising in education. He writes a weekly column for BBC News Online and a monthly column for The Guardian. He is a regular presenter and pundit on Teachers’ TV and the BBC.

From 1989–2007, Mike was Education Correspondent for BBC News, appearing on programmes such as TV’s 10 O’ Clock News, Radio 4’s Today programme, and Radio Five. Before that he was a Political Correspondent, Foreign Affairs Correspondent and Deputy Home News Editor for the BBC. He is a former Visiting Professor at the Institute of Education, London University, and held Journalism Fellowships at the universities of Oxford and Michigan.

His publications include: ‘Does Education Get the Media It Deserves’ (2000), ‘Who Rules Our Schools’ (1994) and ‘A Parent’s Guide to the New Curriculum’ (1992). He won the Ted Wragg Education Journalist of the Year Award in 2006. He is a national judge for the Teaching Awards 2007, a member of the Nuffield Trust Education Advisory Committee, an Honorary Fellow of the Society of Teachers, and a Trustee of the National Education Trust. Mike read English at Cambridge University and recently completed an MA in history at Kingston University.

Nicholas Baring CBE
Nicholas Baring joined the family-linked merchant bank of Baring Brothers in 1958, serving in a variety of senior postings both in the UK and overseas, before retiring as Deputy Chairman in 1989. From 1990 to 1998 he was Chairman of the Board of Commercial Union, a leading British composite insurance company.

In parallel with his business activities, he maintained an active interest in the voluntary sector and in the world of heritage and the arts. He was involved with the initial founding of the Baring Foundation in 1969, became a member of the Foundation's Council of Management in 1973 and was Chairman from 1998 to 2004. Other roles included the National Trust (Chairman, Finance Committee 1980-1991), the National Gallery (Chairman of Trustees 1992-1996) and the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine (President 1989-1996). He became a Trustee of Villiers Park Educational Trust (then The Manor Charitable Trust) in 1988.

Robin Broadley
Robin Broadley was a solicitor and partner in Allen & Overy from 1964 to 1971. He was a managing director of Baring Brothers from 1971 to 1992. He has been a director of a number of public and private companies. He was a trustee of the Baring Foundation from 1983 to 2003, and became a trustee of Villiers Park Educational Trust in 1988. He has been a member of the Council and Executive Committee of the British Heart Foundation since 1990 and is a trustee of other charities working in the field of caring for the disabled.

Sir Dexter Hutt
Dexter Hutt became Headteacher of Ninestiles School - a 1500 student mixed comprehensive - in 1988. Under his leadership Ninestiles has progressed from being a failing school to one of the country's designated Leading Edge schools with 76% of students gaining 5 or more A* - C, been awarded the highest ever quality of teaching grades by Ofsted during a full inspection, developed the largest school wireless network in Europe with over 1200 laptops on site, and a culture described by Ofsted Inspectors as positive, vibrant and one in which individuals are valued and everyone strives for the best. Ninestiles is a specialist technology college and a Microsoft partner school. Ninestiles has become increasingly involved in school improvement nationally, providing school improvement advice and courses for many schools from around the country. Dexter is a member of several national policy groups. He is also a Commissioner for the Commission for Racial Equality. Dexter Hutt is now the Executive Head of the Ninestiles Federation with overall responsibility for the progress of two other secondary schools which became the most improved in Birmingham in 2003 and 2004 respectively. He was knighted in the 2003 New Years Honours List for services to education.

Paul Ray
Paul Ray’s early life was spent in East Africa. After secondary schooling in England, he graduated in chemical engineering from Cambridge University. His career in ICI included extensive experience in strategic planning and running an international business. Latterly he was Chairman and Chief Executive of the UK and US operations of Asahi Glass Fluoropolymers, under Japanese ownership. He is a parish councillor, volunteer citizens’ adviser, Chairman of Trustees of a pension scheme and is involved in other charitable organisations in the Cambridge area.

Johnnie Russell
Johnnie Russell is a chartered accountant with over 30 years experience in UK and International banking. He currently runs the UK wholesale lending operations of ING Bank. His banking career has included five years working in the Far East and before starting his current assignment he spent a number of years in risk management.

In his spare time he runs a dairy and beef farm in Dorset in connection with which he is a farmer elected director of Milk Link the UK’s leading farmer controlled integrated dairy business. Other interests include membership of the Council of Bath University.

Hilary Street
Hilary Street has worked as a classroom teacher; a head of department, an LEA Adviser, and the Deputy Director/Acting Director of a comprehensive sixth form centre in inner London. She spent a total of six years working in Hong Kong ( in the 1980s and 90s) during which time she worked at the Hong Kong Open University and managed a project for ‘more able children’ for an English Schools’ Foundation school.

In 1987 she joined the Evaluation team at the Research and Statistics Department in the Inner London Education Authority, providing training and support in school development planning, monitoring and evaluation. She now divides her time between being an Associate of the London Centre for Leadership in Learning at the Institute of Education; editor and author of the Primary and Secondary Leadership paper series for the NAHT and a range of other consultancy work.

Her book, 'School Improvement through collaborative enquiry', was published in April 2005, and shows how teacher research and ‘enquiry’ is a powerful and effective CPD strategy that can impact directly on classroom practice.


Dexter Hutt:

from: http://www.sec-ed.co.uk/cgi-bin/go.pl/features/article.html?uid=505

Quote:
Not many of the headmaster knights in Britain can claim a youthful dalliance with Trotskyism. Sir Dexter Hutt does. This Blairite uber headmaster, knighted in 2004, was once close to Tariq Ali's International Marxist Group. Today, nearly four decades later, "permanent revolution" is still in his lexicon but his revolution is managerial: one of leadership and transformation of the culture of failing schools. He's Mr Change


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1892567.stm

from:
Quote:
Sally Bennett, of ING Barings, said: "This is pretty significant bad news - they've had delay after delay. There have been doubts growing about the viability of transgenic animals for some time."


http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2001/12/17/daily 25.html
Quote:
Infigen Inc., a privately held biotechnology firm based in DeForest, has completed a private placement of preferred stock to individuals and institutions, the company announced Wednesday. The investment, the first of its kind for Infigen, included funds from several major institutions, including ING Barings Capital and private equity firm Ardshiel Inc.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Caz
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 676

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:06 am    Post subject: Eugenics in the Truth Movement Reply with quote

'We are Change' Sydney feels it appropriate to show the film 'Generation Rx' by Kevin Miller.

http://www.wearechange.org.au/site/main/story/generation_rx_a_film_by_ kevin_miller/

Kevin Miller, according to his blog:

http://kevinpmiller.blogspot.com/2009/04/welcoming-soldiers-home-to-pr omised.html

Quote:
THEY FOUGHT THE ENEMY through the jungles of Vietnam, ducking gunfire, spending sleepless nights and avoiding death, only to be caught in the tripwires and booby traps set by society here at home. I see the faces of America’s war heroes living on the streets of every major city I travel to. They were soldiers who were proud to serve...proud to fight for a way of life here in the Promised Land.


There is no truth in this, soldiers did not 'fight for a way of life here in the Promised Land' and it is only Kevin Miller's opinion that America is the 'Promised Land'.
However, those at 'We Are Change' Sydney, Australia, don't seem to have noticed, and are promoting Kevin Miller's film 'Generation Rx'.

Also, on the Kevin Miller blog you find a short video by Wan Qi Kim, whose credentials are listed as:
http://kevinpmiller.blogspot.com/2009/05/wan-qi-kim-talks-about-rx-med ications.html
Quote:

'Wan-Qi Kim is a Venture Capitalist, Founder of a Social Network for Gifted and Talented Students'


There are serious concerns that the 'Gifted and Talented' programme in schools is promoting a eugenics IQ programme which divides the schools' population into IQ groups; alarm bells should go off with respect to this as Nazi Germany did the same. Quotes and research refering to this are below:

http://www.colorado.edu/MCDB/MCDB2150Fall/notes00/L0040.html
Quote:

Eugenics: The term eugenics was coined by a quantitative geneticist, Francis Galton, in 1883, well before the rediscovery of Mendel, and at a time when "blending" theories of heredity were still quite popular. The basic concept was based on Darwinian evolutionary theory and the assumption that the human species could be improved by encouraging higher levels of reproduction among the gifted and talented (positive eugenics) and restricting reproduction of individuals displaying less favorable characteristics (negative eugenics).


http://www.rethinkingschools.org/archive/13_03/eugenic.shtml

Quote:
Eugenic ideology worked its way into the educational reform movements of the 1910s and 20s, playing a key role in teacher training, curriculum development, and school organization. It also provided the guiding ideology behind the first IQ tests. Those tests were used to track students into separate and unequal education courses, establish the first gifted and talented programs, and promote the idea that educational standards could be measured through single-numbered scores. Eugenic ideas about the intellectual worth of students penetrated deeply into the fabric of American education.


http://www.teachingexpertise.com/articles/preparing-for-exceptional-pe rformance-3209

Quote:
White (2006) recently launched a stinging attack on gifted and talented education seeing it as in a direct line of descent from Galton’s (1978) theories of eugenics. White suggests gifted and talented is based on the idea that some children are better than others with the old notions of belonging to a genetic elite, and them needing to be identified and rescued from general education


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
Quote:

Individuals were assessed using IQ tests like the Stanford-Binet. This posed a problem to new immigrants arriving in Canada, as many had not mastered the English language, and often their scores denoted them as having impaired intellectual functioning. As a result, many of those sterilized under the Sexual Sterilization Act were immigrants who were unfairly categorized.


IQ testing and Nazi eugenics:
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=36507

____________________________________________________________

Another interesting point to note is that, so far, there has not been found any reference on the internet to the film 'The Promised Land', and considering that Kevin Miller's blog claims 'won him numerous international Film and Television awards' you would think references to this film would be somewhere to be found.
Quote:

Kevin P. Miller is an international award winning Writer, Producer and Director whose films KIDS IN CRISIS, LET TRUTH BE THE BIAS, THE PROMISED LAND, and more have won him numerous international Film and Television awards.


Indymedia removed the above within minutes of it being posted, and placed it in the 'hidden' section:

Link on Indymedia:
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/10/439382.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Andrew.
Validated Poster
Validated Poster


Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Posts: 1519

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"There is no truth in this, soldiers did not 'fight for a way of life here in the Promised Land' and it is only Kevin Miller's opinion that America is the 'Promised Land."


Yes there is it's in the Bible. But were as one of the two witnesses supossed to demonstrate the Covenant and not be a master race and fighting for a NWO for the Rich alone.

Excerpt only.
Quote:
The tribe of Joseph is, in fact, divided into two:- Ephraim and Manasseh. Joseph had two sons called Ephraim and Manasseh who, today, are the English and Americans respectively. Abraham, Joseph's great grandad, was told by God that, "in Isaac shall your seed be called" (Genesis 21 v 12). Isaac's sons - Saac's sons - Saxons. The British/English and the Americans are Anglo-Saxons. God's Word is ever TRUE.

Joseph/Ephraim (the English) went forth conquering during their witnessing period, when they took the Bible around the world for God, fulfilling the days of their prophecy (God's Prophecies about them).

Joseph/Manasseh (the U.S.A.) split off from their brothers the English and Ephraim lost a colony (Isaiah 49 v 20) and then went East; North and South.

Joseph/Manasseh (the U.S.A.) also spread forth taking the Bible around the world and became a great people (Genesis 49 v 19) whilst Joseph/Ephraim (the English) became a multitude/Commonwealth of Nations and God made their name GREAT (Genesis 12 v 2) - Great Britain.

During the 1260 years of their witnessing and fulfilling of God's Prophecies, they were assisted by and defended by God, as stated, by God, in Genesis 49 v 23 & Revelation 11 v 3-6.

Unfortunately, although protected by God whilst taking His Word (the Bible) around the world, they did not allow God to water the seed/truth (Rev. 11 v 6) because they did not "live by" (believe - by live) the Bible and Covenants that they made with God, two of them, the Old Covenant/Testament and the New Covenant/Testament. The terms and penalty (punishment) clauses are contained in those Books.


The Australian
and New Zealand Flags

http://jahtruth.co.uk/ausnz.htm

Excerpt only:
"The Australian and New Zealand flags go back much further than the 200 years you probably are aware of. Their heraldic symbolism goes back 3,500 years; to the time of Moses and Joshua, the great Israelite (not Jewish) Military-Commanders.

The following are the Standards of the Twelve Tribes of Israel with those of Issachar and Zebulun shown to the right of Judah's."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Andrew.
Validated Poster
Validated Poster


Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Posts: 1519

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you tell us Caz please, where you think is the "Promised Land."

(edit) and correction.

They went into slavery for not keeping the Covenant

USA and UK "THE TWO WITNESSES" and the land flowing with Milk and Honey came later.


"THE FIGHT FOR THE KINGDOM
AND JUSTICE FOR
ALL"

Excerpt only:
"Between the dates 741 B.C. and 676 B.C., the people of the kingdom of Israel were deported by the Assyrians to a district north of Nineveh; and shortly afterwards their land was handed over to colonists from the Assyrian Empire.

The main deportations of Judah took place between the dates 606 B.C. and 587 B.C. when all the inhabitants of that kingdom, with very few exceptions, were transported by the Chaldaeans to Babylon.

The people of the two kingdoms were thus deported at different times, by different conquerors, and to different districts."


Whilst in Babylon a certain group stole the land and pretended to be Jews and were also punished by the Romans in about 70 AD The Romans and
Babylonians were the same people under a different name and country.


Excerpt only "The Masters Plan"
Quote:
The Lord also gave to Israel a perfect code of law, known in the Scriptures as "the Law of the Lord." The starry universe above provided an example of the perfection of the Divine Law, each celestial body amongst the countless multitude being kept in its appointed orbit by the eternal Law of its Creator, revealing perfect precision and order. Israel was given a portion of that Law, sufficient to govern the nation in every department of its national and spiritual life. In simple language, God created and trained Israel to be His demonstration people. He gave them a perfect Constitution, and instructed them to enter into and possess the Promised Land (Palestine), in order to demonstrate to the nations of the world what the Divine system could achieve in a nation. "Ye are My witnesses, saith the Lord."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Caz
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 676

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have missed my point. Why do 'We Are Change' Sydney feel it appropriate to be linked to someone like this?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Andrew.
Validated Poster
Validated Poster


Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Posts: 1519

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caz wrote:
You have missed my point. Why do 'We Are Change' Sydney feel it appropriate to be linked to someone like this?



You made several points i replied to this one Caz "and it is only Kevin Miller's opinion that America is the 'Promised Land."

As i see it.
As for "We Are Change" like so many, it's between a controlled opposition movement at best to fight the effects and not the cause of thier own doing, at worst set up by the PTB to do likewise.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Caz
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 676

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Andrew.....can you please tell where in the Bible it is said that America is the Promised Land?

So far I can't find anything on the internet referring to KevinMiller's film 'The Promised Land'. Maybe someone else can.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Andrew.
Validated Poster
Validated Poster


Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Posts: 1519

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Caz its in my previous post. I had made an error, so I made a correction.
''The Promised land''( Palestine) was when the Israelites came out of Egypt and refers to that time period. The Israelites being as the links show. But any one is an Israelite if they genuinely do God's will. Palestine is now under gentile Zionist rule by both examples and of people who have never lived there as the Zionist claim they have.

Apologies for not making the point about
''We are change'' first. I'm sure their are many well intentioned people within it. Although when things get to organised, it can get subverted. I tend to keep to leaderless resistance,taking correction where it applies.

A wise man takes correction a fool rejects it.

Led by as some call it the still word or in-tuition, being mindful of the misleading spoken thoughts.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
TonyGosling
Editor
Editor


Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 12103
Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lords criticise nanotech secrecy in food industry
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/emergingtech/0,1000000183,39976000,00.htm
The food industry is too secretive over its research into nanotechnology, according to an influential House of Lords committee.
Lord Krebs, chairman of the House of Lords Science and Technology Committee, warned on Thursday that the industry risks lowering public confidence in food nanotechnology as a result of this secrecy.

_________________
www.rethink911.org
www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org
www.mediafor911truth.org
www.pilotsfor911truth.org
www.mp911truth.org
www.ae911truth.org
www.rl911truth.org
www.stj911.org
www.l911t.com
www.v911t.org
www.thisweek.org.uk
www.abolishwar.org.uk
www.elementary.org.uk
www.radio4all.net/index.php/contributor/2149
http://utangente.free.fr/2003/media2003.pdf
"The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic poison which alienates the possessor from the community" Carl Jung
https://37.220.108.147/members/www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
TonyGosling
Editor
Editor


Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 12103
Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:37 pm    Post subject: Bush, Eugenics and Population Control Reply with quote

An oldie but goodie!

Bush, Eugenics and Population Control
Alf Mendes | 04.07.2006 15:42 | Anti-militarism | Culture | Social Struggles
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/07/344113.html

Eugenics (Greek for 'good birth') is the study of methods to improve the human race by controlled selective breeding - bolstered by its concomitant term 'population control'.

Bones, Eugenics and Population Control

Eugenics (Greek for 'good birth') is the study of methods to improve the human race by controlled selective breeding - bolstered by its concomitant term 'population control'.

POPULATION CONTROL
The Order of the Skull & Bones; the Eugenic Societies; and Population Control organisations

Alfred Mendes also writes for Spectrezine - you can read more of his stuff there http://www.spectrezine.org

01Jul06 - Alfred Mendes

Eugenics (Greek for 'good birth') is the study of methods to improve the human race by controlled selective breeding - bolstered by its concomitant term 'population control'.

The colonisation of the so-called 'under-developed', poorer countries of this world by the more 'developed' capitalist-orientated countries (primarily European), benefitted the latter greatly - at the expense of the former. Slavery was one of the more tragic outcomes - another being that the colonisers, now imbued with racist perceptions, subsequently set up organisations reflecting this. And the fact that the membership lists of these organisations flaunt the names of very influential politicians/statesmen, business tycoons and bankers, surely calls for a closer look at the matter. And because of America's currently leading role in this matter, it is necessary to recall that she gained 'independence' as the United States of America after much infighting between the colonisers (primarily British) who had invaded that country of Indian Tribes - which led to genocidal attacks on those 'Red Indians'. A story not unlike Britain's colonisation of Australia, wirh its indigenous Aborigines.

As a backdrop to this, in 1798, an English clergyman-cum-economist, Thomas Robert Malthus published a theory with eugenic (a term not then used) overtones, arguing that an un-planned population grew faster than food production - adding that famine and poverty were God's way of coping with man's laziness. This was a theory much-welcomed by the colonisers and the organisations mentioned above.

This article will consider three such organisations: the Order of the Skull & Bones; the Eugenic Societies; and Population Control organisations, in a more-or-less chronological order, thereby leading to a more rational grasp of the subject matter.

Of the three, the Skull & Bones (of Yale University) was the earliest formed. 'The Order', as it is referred to by its members, bears the aura of secrecy and freemasonry, and is a bastion of White Anglo Saxon Protestant (WASP) culture, wealth and influence. A partial list of its more prominent members reflects said influence: The Russell Family; Alphonso Taft; William Howard Taft (his son); Henry Lewis Stimson; Averell Harriman; Robert A Lovett (partner of merged Brown Brothers Harriman in1926); Harold Stanley (of Morgan Stanley); Robert A. Taft; Prescott Bush Snr.; George Herbert Walker Bush; G.W. Bush (current President); McGeorge Bundy (National Security Advisor to JFK); the Heinz family - et al. In other words, the 'corporate establishment', as it is more popularly known.

The following very brief story of its birth is intriguing, to put it mildly: In 1823, using the old pirates' 'Skull & Crossbones' as its logo, Samuel Russell founded an opium-smuggling company, Russell & Co. - and by 1829, he had bought out the Perkins & Co., which had controlled the smuggling of Turkish opium into China since 1789. In 1833, Samuel's second cousin, William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft (who had served as Secretary of War under President Rutherford B. Hayes) founded the Order of Skull & Bones.

In 1856, said William Huntington Russell (who had been valedictorian of his class at Yale in 1833) incorporated Skull & Bones as the 'Russell Trust Association'. It must be recalled here that the opium trading noted above was still being run by the British East India Company (BEIC) - Britain then being the great empire-builder - and that without Britain's collaboration Russell & Co. would have collapsed. Simply put - the birth of Skull & Bones (whose members are more commonly known as the 'Bonesmen') - was paid for by opium drug-smuggling! While on the subject of Russell & Co., it is intriguing to note that Warren Delano Jnr. (grandfather of that popular 'democrat', FDR), though not a 'Bonesman' - while acting as US Vice-Consul in Canton, acted as Chief of Operations for Russell during the Opium War of 1839 - '42, which resulted in the legalisation of opium in China, and the acquisition of Hong Kong by the British.

In the 1860's, Francis Galton (a cousin of Charles Darwin) took this Malthusian theory (see above) a step further: in his own words he defined 'Eugenics' ( a word he coined) as "the science of improvement of the human race germ plasm through better breeding" - adding that the poor were biologically inferior - and he further advocated state intervention to solve the problem. In 1904, he founded a research chair in eugenics at University College of London University.

In 1905, Dr. Alfred Ploetz and Dr. Ernst Rudin founded the Society of Race-Hygiene in Germany. (about which, more later).

In 1907, the Eugenic Education Society (which later became the Eugenic Society) was founded in England.

In 1910, the Eugenics Record Office (ERO) was founded in America. In their own words, the ERO felt that "ultimate economic betterment should be sought by breeding better people, not fewer of the existing sort."

In 1912, the First International Eugenics Congress was held at London University. It demonstrated the growing strength of the movement especially in England, Germany and the United States. The opening speech at this congress was given by Arthur James Balfour, who had been British Prime Minister from 1902 - 5; and, as Foreign Secretary under Lloyd George from 1916 - '19, made a deal with the Zionists whereby Britain would support the setting up of a 'home' for the Jews, in return for the Zionists using their considerable political clout to persuade America to enter the war against Germany. (Britain was by then in dire economic straits). This secular Zionist group of Ashkenazi Jews were surely not entitled to a 'homeland' in Palestine, as their country of origin had been the Khazar Empire (which had adopted Judaism) of southern Russia.

In 1916, Margaret Sanger opened the first birth control clinic in the United States. It was renamed the Planned Parenthood Federation of America in 1942. She wrote: " the unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit' is admittedly the greatest present menace to civilisation ... The most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective."

In 1922, the American Eugenics Society was founded. One of its co-founders, Henry Laughlin (who had been Superintendent of the Eugenics Record Office from l910 to 1921) later became President of the Pioneer Fund, a white supremacist organisation. Another co-founder, Dr. Henry Fairfield Osborn, in 1923, during a national debate on restricting immigration, spoke enthusiastically about the results of intelligence testing carried out by the Army: "I believe those tests were worth what the war (World War I) cost, even in human life...We have learned once and for all that the Negro is not like us." He also became president of the Pioneer Fund from 1947 to 1956.

Well documented is the fact that in between WW1 and WW2, Prescott Bush Snr. - as an executive of W.A.Harriman & Co. (later becoming Brown Bros. Harriman) - had, through a number of mergers with German companies, helped finance Hitler's Nazi regime. Furthermore, in 1926, as a board member of bankers Dillon Read, Major (as he then was) William Draper co-operated with W.A. Harriman & Co. (Prescott S. Bush Snr. was Vice-President then) in the handling of the corporate banking for Fritz Thyssen's German Steel Trust. Thyssen had helped to fund the Nazi Party. By 1931, sterilisation laws had been enacted in 27 states in the United States, and by 1935 enacted in Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland and Germany. As for Germany: as noted above, Ploetz and Rudin had set out an effective eugenics program which resulted in the tragic killing of millions of Jews, communists et al. by the Nazi Regime of Hitler. In fact, Rudin had been the chief architect of Law for the Prevention of Hereditary Disease in Posterity passed July 1933 four months after Hitler came to power. An inriguing aside: as noted in the Rockefeller Foundation Annual Reports 1928 1939, Rockefeller gave money for the "Kaiser Wilhelm Institute" and thus subsidized Rudin. From 1932 - 1972, the US Public Health Service studied the natural history of syphilis in hopes of justifying treatment programs for blacks. It was called the "Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male", and involved 600 black men--399 with syphilis and 201 who did not have the disease. Researchers told the men they were being treated for "bad blood". In fact, the men were never given adequate treatment for their disease. Even when penicillin became the drug of choice for syphilis in 1947, researchers did not offer it to the subjects. In 1972, as a result of a New York Times article, an Ad Hoc Advisory panel reviewed the study and found that the Tuskegee Study was "ethically unjustified".

In August 1932 - and financed by the eugenicist, Major William Draper (see above) - the third "International Conference on Eugenics" was held in New York's American Museum of Natural History under the supervision of the International Federation of Eugenics Societies. The proceedings were dedicated to Averell Harriman's mother, who had financed the foundation of the Eugenics Record Office back in 1910 (see above). Dr. Ernst Rudin (see above) travelled to attend the Congress via the Hamburg-Amerika line (owned by W.A.Harriman & Co) - and was unanimously elected president of the International Federation of Eugenics Societies!

A few years after WW 2, Professor Dr. Otmar Freiherr von Verschuer, who, in 1937,had been Director of the Third Reich Institute for Heredity, Biology and Racial Purity (and Josef Mengele's mentor) founded the Institute of Human Genetics in Munster, and also became a foreign member of the American Eugenics Society.

The setting up of the state of Israel by the Zionists in 1948 was an irrational act (as implied above), the main beneficiary being America, which would now have a well-armed, suborned ally in an Arab region rich in oil. The resulting deaths of the many Arabs at the hands of the Israelis could have been stopped by America many years ago. That it was not stopped can only mean that it was in keeping with the policy of the eugenicist-dominated US Administration - after all, Arabs are merely 'ragheads'.

In 1950 and '51`, John Foster Dulles, then chairman of the Rockefeller Foundation (later to be appointed Secretary of State by Eisenhower), led John D. Rockefeller III on a series of world tours, "focussing on the need to stop the expansion of the non-white populations". In 1952, Frederick Osborn (1889-1981) nephew of Henry Fairfield Osborn Sr. (see above), an officer of the American Eugenics Society/SSSB for more than 30 years, helped John D. Rockefeller III establish the Population Council in 1952, served as the council's first administrator and was on its board of trustees for many years.

In 1958, Eisenhower appointed Draper (see above) as head of a committee to study the proper course for military aid to other countries. Draper changed the focus of the committee and recommended that the US goverment react to the threat of the population explosion by formulating plans to depopulate the poorer countries, as the growth of the world's non-white population should be regarded as dangerous to the national security of the United States! Eisenhower had the sense to reject this.

In the1960's Draper founded the Population Crisis Committee and the Draper fund, and joined with the Rockerfeller and Du Pont families to promote eugenics as population control...

While serving in Congress - and with Draper as his 'population expert' - George H.W. Bush chaired the Republican Task Force on Earth Resources and Population and invited Professors William Shockley and Arthur Jensen to explain to the committee how allegedly runaway birth-rates for African-Americans were down-breeding the American population. On August 5 1969, Bush summed up the testimony his black-inferiority advocates had given to the Task Force before Congress.

With the term 'eugenics' now, in the Post-War period, tainted with an aura of genocide and racism, Major General Frederick Osborn, founder member of both the American Eugenics Society and the Pioneer Fund, stated the public relations problem bluntly: "Eugenic goals are most likely to be attained under a name other than eugenics."...In other words, the goals must be camouflaged - it would now be known as crypto-eugenics. In 1960, the British Eugenics Society agreed with this, stating "The Society's activities in crypto-eugenics should be pursued vigorously..." - and adopted the proposal. In 1973, this resulted in the American Eugenics Society becoming the more academic-sounding 'Society for the Study of Social Biology'. Crypto-eugenics would now be the order-of-the-day.

On June 9th 1969, Dr.D.M. MacArthur, Deputy Director of Research & Technology for the Pentagon, requested a sum of $10 million from the Congressional House Subcommittee on Appropriations to develop a new contagious micro-organsm capable of destroying the human immune system - in order to counteract any possible future virus capable of affecting said human immunity. It would therefore be necessary, first, to create such a virus! This resulted in a 'virus' discovered some ten years later in America which became known as 'acquired immune deficiency syndrome' (AIDS). It should be stressed that this virus first appeared in America, and, as noted by Neville Hodgkinson on the website businessonline.com in May 2006: increasingly complex procedures were taken to diagnose this virus in a reliable manner - "but the basic problem - not being able to validate any of these procedures against pure virus taken from patients - still remains". Furthermore, he reveals in comprehensive detail, that both the HIV tests and statistics concerning AIDS have been manipulated in a duplicitous manner. It would seem that the main beneficiaries have been the pharmaceutical firms!

In April 1974, Kissinger drew up a secret plan for population control called the 'National Security Plan of Action 200' (NSSM 200), which was endorsed by the National Security Decision Memorandum 314, and finally declassified in 1900. In brief, it claimed that population growth in the less-developed countries was "..creating political or even national security problems for the US", and it would seek help from the UN Fund for Population Activities (UNFPA founded in 1969) - but stressing that it would be under US leadership. NB: this was at a time when America was being wracked by the Watergate scandal, as a result of which its president, Richard Nixon, had to resign. At the very least, it would seem that - in the eyes of the Administration - the policy of 'population control' stood high in its list of priorities. In August 1974, at a meeting in Bucharest, the UN passed a resolution adopting The World Population of Action as proposed by the US delegation. It would seem that US leadership was indeed essential! The UNFPA was to hold similar meetings at 10-year intervals thereafter.

On October 2nd 1979, Robert McNamara (President of the World Bank) addressed a group of international bankers thus: "We can begin with the most critical problem of all, population growth"..concluding that "..either the current birth rates must come down more quickly, or the death rates must go up...There are, of course, many ways in which the death rates can go up. In a thermonuclear age, we can accomplish it very quickly and decisively"(as indeed they had done in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in1945). Not surprising statements, coming, as they do, from a man who was Secretary of Defense during the genocidal Vietnam War - but surprising in view of the crypto-eugenic stand taken by the American Eugenics Society noted above, a stand which McNamara, a self-evidently keen eugenicist, would have certainly been aware of. It can only be assumed that he did not agree with the society's stand, and was arrogant enough to ignore it.

In 1980, William Draper III (General Draper's son) served as co-chairman for financing G.H.W. Bush's campaign for the presidency that year. Reagan won and appointed Bush as his Vice President.

In 1986 - as a result of Vice President George H.W.Bush's advice to Reagan - William Draper III was appointed Administrator and CEO of the UN Development Program (UNDP), which was founded in 1965 by merging two existing U.N. organizations: the Expanded Program of Technical Assistance (EPTA), and the U.N. Special Fund. Since 1971, it has been responsible for coordinating all development assistance supplied by the United Nations system. UNDP was a key player in the global aid network - and the UNFPA (see above).

The foregoing is not a comprehensive list by any means - but is surely enough evidence that eugenics, population control (call it what you will) has played, and continues to play a crucial role in the policy-making of the so-called 'developed' countries - America in particular.

A recent event of pertinence follows: an earthquake of magnitude 9.0 on the Richter scale struck the Indian Ocean region on December 26th 2004, resulting in a Tsumani which killed approximately a quarter-of-a-million people. It was subsequently revealed that the Americans - with their European partners/acolytes - were aware of this earthquake almost immediately, as they controlled a number of seismic stations in the region (to say nothing of their earth-scouring satellites), the most important being the American military base on Diego Garcia. However, thay had not notified those countries threatened by the Tsunami. The only conclusion to be drawn from this is that this was a deliberate act on the part of the Euro-Americans, and, keeping in mind the chronological events listed above, it can justifiably be assumed that, in this instance, the eugenists and their cohort 'Bonesmen' had scored a hit!

Moreover, the close relationship noted above between Corporate America (with its 'Skull and Bones'-ridden Administration) and Nazi/fascist Germans makes a mockery of the former's claim to democracy. Using eugenicists' terminology, they could more accurately be described as 'crypto-democrats' (fascists). The definition of 'Fascism' in a dictionary is "a philosophy or system of government that advocates or exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with the ideology of belligerent nationality'. This, in turn, reveals that capitalism lies at the core of fascism. But, as noted above, this is a fact which must be hidden by these global capitalists.

It is therefore imperative that this subject of eugenics/population control is subjected to far greater public scrutiny than it has received from 'our media' - which, after all, is in hock to its corporate owners: it says what it is paid to say!

_________________
www.rethink911.org
www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org
www.mediafor911truth.org
www.pilotsfor911truth.org
www.mp911truth.org
www.ae911truth.org
www.rl911truth.org
www.stj911.org
www.l911t.com
www.v911t.org
www.thisweek.org.uk
www.abolishwar.org.uk
www.elementary.org.uk
www.radio4all.net/index.php/contributor/2149
http://utangente.free.fr/2003/media2003.pdf
"The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic poison which alienates the possessor from the community" Carl Jung
https://37.220.108.147/members/www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
TonyGosling
Editor
Editor


Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 12103
Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like this has caused lots of trouble behind the scenes
flagging this up here because it has now disappeared off the Times website


Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation
« on: May 24, 2009, 11:16:26 PM »
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article635 0303.ece
May 24, 2009
Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation
America's richest people meet to discuss ways of tackling a 'disastrous' environmental, social and industrial threat
John Harlow, Los Angeles
SOME of America’s leading billionaires have met secretly to consider how their wealth could be used to slow the growth of the world’s population and speed up improvements in health and education.
The philanthropists who attended a summit convened on the initiative of Bill Gates, the Microsoft co-founder, discussed joining forces to overcome political and religious obstacles to change.
Described as the Good Club by one insider it included David Rockefeller Jr, the patriarch of America’s wealthiest dynasty, Warren Buffett and George Soros, the financiers, Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, and the media moguls Ted Turner and Oprah Winfrey.
These members, along with Gates, have given away more than £45 billion since 1996 to causes ranging from health programmes in developing countries to ghetto schools nearer to home.
They gathered at the home of Sir Paul Nurse, a British Nobel prize biochemist and president of the private Rockefeller University, in Manhattan on May 5. The informal afternoon session was so discreet that some of the billionaires’ aides were told they were at “security briefings”.
Stacy Palmer, editor of the Chronicle of Philanthropy, said the summit was unprecedented. “We only learnt about it afterwards, by accident. Normally these people are happy to talk good causes, but this is different – maybe because they don’t want to be seen as a global cabal,” he said.
Some details were emerging this weekend, however. The billionaires were each given 15 minutes to present their favourite cause. Over dinner they discussed how they might settle on an “umbrella cause” that could harness their interests.
The issues debated included reforming the supervision of overseas aid spending to setting up rural schools and water systems in developing countries. Taking their cue from Gates they agreed that overpopulation was a priority.
This could result in a challenge to some Third World politicians who believe contraception and female education weaken traditional values.
Gates, 53, who is giving away most of his fortune, argued that healthier families, freed from malaria and extreme poverty, would change their habits and have fewer children within half a generation.
At a conference in Long Beach, California, last February, he had made similar points. “Official projections say the world’s population will peak at 9.3 billion [up from 6.6 billion today] but with charitable initiatives, such as better reproductive healthcare, we think we can cap that at 8.3 billion,” Gates said then.
Patricia Stonesifer, former chief executive of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which gives more than £2 billion a year to good causes, attended the Rockefeller summit. She said the billionaires met to “discuss how to increase giving” and they intended to “continue the dialogue” over the next few months.
Another guest said there was “nothing as crude as a vote” but a consensus emerged that they would back a strategy in which population growth would be tackled as a potentially disastrous environmental, social and industrial threat.
“This is something so nightmarish that everyone in this group agreed it needs big-brain answers,” said the guest. “They need to be independent of government agencies, which are unable to head off the disaster we all see looming.”
Why all the secrecy? “They wanted to speak rich to rich without worrying anything they said would end up in the newspapers, painting them as an alternative world government,” he said.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/A/A/4AA524C6-239D-47FF-860B-5 B397199CBF8/windows-kb890830-v3.10.exe

_________________
www.rethink911.org
www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org
www.mediafor911truth.org
www.pilotsfor911truth.org
www.mp911truth.org
www.ae911truth.org
www.rl911truth.org
www.stj911.org
www.l911t.com
www.v911t.org
www.thisweek.org.uk
www.abolishwar.org.uk
www.elementary.org.uk
www.radio4all.net/index.php/contributor/2149
http://utangente.free.fr/2003/media2003.pdf
"The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic poison which alienates the possessor from the community" Carl Jung
https://37.220.108.147/members/www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/


Last edited by TonyGosling on Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:34 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Thermate911
Validated Poster
Validated Poster


Joined: 16 Jul 2007
Posts: 1451
Location: UEMS

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pathetic, nicht wahr?

The earth has enough for everyone's needs but never enough for some peoples' greed - M.K.Gandhi

And then there's fluoride, mercury and such a synergistic cocktail of other chemicals that the 13 evil bloodlines use to keep our pineal glands in hock to their aims.

Have you read any eustace mullins recently?

_________________
"We will lead every revolution against us!" - attrib: Theodor Herzl

"Timely Demise to All Oppressors - at their Convenience!" - 'Interesting Times', Terry Pratchett
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Disco_Destroyer
Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Trustworthy Freedom Fighter


Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 6259

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1/2 Hardtalk - Barbara Harris (Project Prevention)

Quote:
The comments on YouTube about this clip are sickening


Link



Link


£200 Bait to Sterilize all UK Drug Addicts and Alcoholics - Eugenics UK


Link


Quote:
18 October 2010
Barbara Harris, the American eugenicist who recently set up a UK branch of her 'charity' Project Prevent, has called for all drug addicts in the UK to be sterilized in exchange for a £200 cash payment.
So any smokers out there who are addicted to nicotine had better beware. Addiction to cigarettes is not portrayed as drug addiction by the media or in public health campaigns and neither is alcohol. Well they are drugs and if we give an elite group the authority to start picking what types of people can and can't have children, whats to stop them deciding that something you do marks you as an 'undesirable' meriting sterilization? What if they decide the poor or certain ethnic and religious groups should be 'cleansed' next? Maybe they will decide to speed the hole process up at some point in the not so far of future and just offer cash to people who volunteer the be euthanised?

"Where do they get their funding?" has to be the million dollar question!

BBC 18th October



PS I might do this, wouldn't want to be guilty of bringing more slaves into the system like Very Happy

_________________
'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'


“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”


www.myspace.com/disco_destroyer
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    9/11, 7/7 & the War on Freedom Forum Index -> The War On Children, Marriage and the Family All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group