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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:17 am    Post subject: IDS & UBS Lord Freud's DWP contracts given to liars con- Reply with quote

More evidence that Atos Origin cheats benefits claimants
http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2010/11/more-evidence-that-at os-origin.html
We reported last month how far too many genuinely sick people are being unfairly denied benefits and told to look for work.
One, breast cancer victim Sue Hutchings, was told to get a job while she was waiting for surgery.
Now an independent study has found some jaw-dropping examples of the "work capability assessments" carried out by French company Atos Origin.
These so-called medicals help decide whether people get £65-a-week Jobseeker's Allowance or the more generous Employment and Support Allowance, worth up to £97.
According to Professor Malcolm Harrington, one suicidal woman was told by the Atos doctor to "stop crying and hurry up because I need to go and pick up my children from school".
A man suffering from ME was told "There's a big world out there, you know - you should go out and see some of it."
One mum found 20 errors in the assessment of her son, including a claim that he'd driven himself to the medical when his dad had.
No wonder that 40% of the people who appeal against a decision to refuse them Employment and Support Allowance are successful.
Professor Harrington found a gulf between the high levels of customer satisfaction that Atos reported and the "considerable worry, even anger" of those who contacted him....

Atos wins DWP contracts
09/08/2012 : The Department for Work and Pensions awards two of the PIP assessment contracts to
Atos wins DWP contracts
http://www.consultant-news.com/Article_Display.aspx?p=adp&ID=8786
LONDON -- Atos announced that its business division and leading occupational health provider in the UK, Atos Healthcare, has been awarded a five year contract by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP).
DWP has awarded two contracts to Atos Healthcare covering Scotland, North East England, North West England, London and Southern England. Atos Healthcare will conduct assessments designed by the DWP for the delivery of the Personal Independence Payment.
This contract is the first significant contract awarded under the overarching Health and Disability Assessment Framework. Under this contract Atos Healthcare has created an innovative new supply chain including NHS hospital Trusts, Private Hospitals and regional networks of health professionals to deliver advice and assessment services. A key benefit of the Atos Healthcare supply model is the provision of a local, familiar service delivered by experienced practitioners.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The government are now saying that a third of people on incapacity benefit are fit for work and that 1.5 million people will undergo reassessment by 2014.

Here is an interesting article: http://www.sayer.abel.co.uk/MES-Nnazi.html

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'd be nice to know where the Work Programme contracts are: irrespective to the legal obligation that DWP upload all contracts over £10,000 on the Contracts Finder website, the Work Programme contracts have yet to be seen.

https://www.lifeinthemix.info/2012/03/work-programme-contracts/
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The Nazis forced people with mental and other disabilities to wear black triangles in the extermination camps during the Holocaust. The generic classification they used was “Arbeitsscheu” – literally “Workshy”. This term is also the one most favoured in our right-wing tabloid press to described incapacity and disability benefit claimants today.

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http://skwalker1964.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/the-results-of-the-real-p oll-on-the-govts-treatment-of-benefits-claimants/

The results of the REAL poll on the govt’s treatment of benefits claimants
23/12/2012 · by skwalker1964 · Bookmark the permalink. ·

Earlier this month, I posted a poll of 9 questions on the government’s actions on benefits, and its treatment of/pronouncements about benefit claimants. I posted my poll because I was incensed by one posted by the Tory party that was blatantly constructed to give only two choices – the one they want and a nonsense one. It also offered only two, slanted questions and used language intended to demonise those who find themselves in the position of having to claim benefits.

Clearly the Tories have to frame their questions like this because they’re afraid of the results if they ask fair questions – most people are not fools, and a fair phrasing of the questions would not give the Tories the soundbite they want – of being able to say that the public agrees with their measures.

I had no such fears, so I tried to construct the poll as fairly as possible, offering people the opportunity to agree with the government’s position, to disagree with it moderately, or to disagree extremely. I was right not to be worried. Each question was answered by an average of almost 400 people (so far). Here are the results:



Almost 98% of respondents feel that the government has been unfair in how it has framed the issue of benefit claimants.

This question was the only one to draw comments specifically on the question rather than on the blog post as a whole, so it seems worth including those here. Nigel Dougan, with a nice sense of correctly bitter humour, said:

They might well be working people but that’s no excuse. If they got off their arses and got jobs as merchant bankers and earned fortunes they wouldn’t need to be bailed out by the state. Why don’t they get extra jobs.

Sorry Mr Cameron but your a Twat. Come and live with some of my friends who are doing jobs way below their skill set and without state assistance their families would fall apart. Get real mate!! If it’s true you wanted to get your daughter to place a vote for you during X Factor for Will Young, you really need to step aside.

Chaz Stoll added:

Good survey and one that is fairly unique as it gives options that put a more Socialist, humane and fairer view forward.
I think most people understand that we are being conned left, right and centre.

In this area, Halesowen and Rowley Regis – West Midlands – my MP, James Morris claimed he had fought to keep the local fire station open. He did oppose, BUT what he never mentioned was that he voted to cut spending in the first place!!!!

Where was his opposition when it was needed?

He then seems to think that his opposition exonerates him. Does he not expect us to see through his nonsense?
Good stuff on the poll…as usual the Tories and their chums The Liberals are blaming, hurting those who can least afford it. They fight for their class – as usual and b* the rest.

(The sharp-eyed among you might spot that there are 3 comments, but the 3rd was just correcting a typo, which I’ve corrected in the quoted text).

Shame on James Morris, Tory MP for Halesowen and Rowley Regis. It seems like that area is cursed with some particularly dishonest Tory MPs, as Bromsgrove’s Sajid Javid has made similar attempts, posing as a defender of his local hospital while his department steals money from the NHS, lying about government spending on the NHS and even inviting a hospital-closing minister to come and talk about the importance of local hospitals(!).



All but 3 of 398 respondents felt that the Tories ‘shirkers’, ‘closed-curtain’ rhetoric is unfair, with all but 16 feeling strongly enough about it to call it ‘grossly unfair’. It’s quite likely that left-leaning people were more likely to find this poll and respond to it, but the question attempts to frame the issue fairly and gives people the chance to respond in favour of the government. So while the percentage in the general population won’t be as high as shown here, you can be confident that these results are a lot more representative than anything the Tories’ questions will show.



Just over 3% of responders felt that the government’s 1% cap on benefit rises until the next General Election is fair or ‘about right’, with the rest choosing one or other variety of it being unfair.

Interestingly, almost half of the people who felt that it was unfair felt that the right solution was for everyone – working or not – to receive decent rises, rather than the government’s approach of simply accepting poverty-wages for many working people and using this as an excuse to cut benefits in real-terms.



This question was an attempt to refine the results of the previous one – and, to me at least, the results of the refinement were extremely interesting.

4 out of every 5 respondents felt that mandating a ‘living wage‘ (currently £7.45 outside London, compared to the current minimum wage of £6.19) is the right way to achieve a cut in the benefits bill, as opposed to the government’s plan to cut benefits in real terms without increasing wages, which condemns many people to poverty. Only 1% felt that a living wage is an unworkable idea.

This is a strong steer for the Labour party as to the kind of policies it should be devising in readiness for the run-up to the next General Election, and it backs up my contention that the way to a landslide victory in 2015 (or sooner) is to be more radical, not to aim for the centre-ground.



Now we move on specifically to the government’s treatment of disabled people. I and many others have argued vehemently that the government’s statements and decisions about disabled people and the benefits they receive have been callous, unfair and have deliberately demonised disabled people.

In particular, implications by Iain Duncan Smith and other government spokespeople about disability benefit fraud have been massively misleading. Every single respondent who knew enough to have an opinion agreed that the government’s statements on disability benefit fraud have been unfair – with almost 94% feeling that the government deliberately demonises disabled people in order to win support for its measures.



Just one single respondent felt that the government’s ‘skiver vs striver’ rhetoric is fair when there are more than 5 times as many unemployed people as there are jobs to be filled. All but 8 of the remaining 373 respondents felt that it is grossly unfair. Clearly, a lot of people understand that tarring someone as a skiver when there’s no job for them to do even if they want to work is a deliberate mockery of the facts.



Again, only one respondent felt the government’s cap on the total benefits cap, which will force many people to move out of their homes to cheaper areas, is fair. Almost 90% agree with the idea that a rent-cap, not a benefits-cap, is the right way to control the cost of benefits – again, a very strong steer to Labour’s policy-planners.



Only 1 person (presumably the same person for all the questions!) felt that it’s fair for the government to cut benefits in real terms while reducing the tax rates for companies and wealthy individuals. More than 95% felt strongly enough about the question to respond that it is grossly unfair. Clearly people are looking for opposition leaders to take a strong stance on this issue, which vindicates completely Labour’s announcement that it will vote against the 1% cap, and shows that George Osborne’s decision to force an unnecessary vote on an ‘uprating amendment’ to try to put Labour out on a limb is simply cynical idiocy.



Not even our intrepid single ‘yea-sayer’ could bring himself or herself to say that calling welfare unaffordable while the tax contribution of the richest has fallen relative to their income is acceptable. Of the 100% who felt that it is not, almost 84% were in favour of taking any necessary measures to bring tax revenues up to meet the need before even considering reducing benefits.

I think the results speak for themselves, largely – and the poll is still open, so feel free to add your contribution. But I think it definitely bears repeating that the results provide a strong call on the Labour party to abandon any thought of trying to appear a ‘safe pair of hands’ to business and the markets.

If Labour wants to win the landslide victory it deserves and consign both the Tories and the LibDems to the irrelevance they deserve, the message is clear: be bold, be radical, and don’t be afraid to put forward a vision that is completely different to the dysfunctional, myth-based nightmare that the Tories have tried – and are now failing – to fool British people into believing.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NiXy9kYvA6g

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This video was previously deleted by youtube without due reasoning. I have re-edited and added additional information concerning the letter I received from Atos and further undercover filming work done by After Atos @
https://www.youtube.com/user/afteratosassessment
Together both films along with the letter provide strong evidence that you should not enter into a contract with Atos for any assessments, because Atos are immediately covered as soon as you give consent. Please be aware.

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Lord Freud's welfare 'lifestyle' comments show 'nasty party is back', say Labour
Labour have seized on comments by Lord Freud, the Minister for Welfare Reform who likened life on benefits to a funeral.
By Telegraph reporters
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9698985/Lord-Freuds-welfare-l ifestyle-comments-show-nasty-party-is-back-say-Labour.html
2:30PM GMT 23 Nov 2012
Lord Freud said the benefits system was "dreadful" and allowed lone parents and sickness claimants to "have a lifestyle" on the state.
Poor people should be prepared to take more risks because they have the least to lose, according to the minister for welfare reform.
The Tory peer, a former banker and descendent of Sigmund Freud, who is helping to push through a radical overhaul of the welfare state, insisted he understood the reality of living on benefits, arguing "you don't have to be the corpse to go to a funeral".
Liam Byrne, the Shadow Work and Pensions secretary, said the comments were "disgusting", adding: "The nasty party is well and truly back."
In an interview with The House magazine, he said: "We've got the circumstances now where... people who are poorer should be prepared to take the biggest risks - they've got least to lose."
"We have, through our welfare system, created a system which has made them reluctant to take risks so we need to turn that on its head and make the system predictable so that people will take those risks.
"I think we have a dreadful welfare system." [actually the best in the world - ed.]
He added: "You know, the incapacity benefits, the lone parents, the people who are self-employed for year after year and only earn hundreds of pounds or a few thousand pounds, the people waiting for their work ability assessment then not going to it - all kinds of areas where people are able to have a lifestyle off benefits and actually off conditionality."
Lord Freud dismissed the possibility of taking part in a television documentary which filmed him living on benefits for a week, something a number of politicians have done in the past.
"I have thought of the issue," he said. "The trouble is, it's a stunt when someone like me does it because you do it for a week. That's not the point."
He added: "I think you don't have to be the corpse to go to a funeral, which is the implied criticism there."
Mr Byrne continued: "Lord Freud is a former investment banker and now a minister of the crown. For him of all people to compare people on benefits to corpses and likening their lives to a funeral is quite frankly disgusting.
"He is quite clearly a man in total denial about the pain his policies are about to cause."

Lord Freud advised the Labour government on welfare after publishing an independent report in March 2007 on the Welfare to Work system.
He said former prime minister Gordon Brown "thought he could soften me up and then dump me in with his officials and I would just capitulate" in talks they had on reforms.
He added: "Which I thought was a pretty demeaning thing for a chancellor and prime minister-to-be, to think that was his role.
"And in practice a pretty foolish strategy when you're up against someone who's an investment banker, who gets yelled at every day of his life, if not three times, by chief executives, finance directors and chairmen for one thing or another. So, if he was wanting to get an outcome, it was a pretty poor strategy."


Freud was first employed by the Financial Times as a journalist, writing the Lex column over a period of 4 years. In 1983 he was hired by the firm then known as Rowe & Pitman. He worked on more than 50 deals, raising more than £50bn in 19 countries. Many were high profile, including the flotations of Eurotunnel and EuroDisney, while he orchestrated the rescue of the Channel Tunnel railway link and National Air Traffic Services. His role in the deals, earned him a great deal of publicity and occasionally criticism. By 2003, Freud had become the vice-chairman of investing banking at the firm, now known as UBS AG. He retired early at the age 53, claiming that he was bored with the City. He later was chief executive of the Portland Trust, which aims "to promote the peace process" in Palestine and Israel using economic measures.

In late 2006, Freud was appointed by the then Prime Minister, Tony Blair, to provide a nominally independent review of the British welfare to work system. His subsequent recommendations called for expanded private sector involvement in the welfare system, for substantial resources to be found to help those on Incapacity Benefit back into "economic activity" and for single parents to be required to take paid employment earlier. Although his recommendations on single parents were immediately adopted, when Gordon Brown became Prime Minister in June 2007 other restructuring measures were soft-pedalled.

He was later rehired as an adviser to the government when James Purnell was appointed Secretary of State for Work and Pensions in 2008. He was involved in producing a white paper, published in December 2008, which would require most people receiving benefits either to participate in some form of employment or prepare formally to find paid employment later.

In February 2009, Freud joined the Conservative Party, which at that time was not in government. He was given a life peerage as Baron Freud, of Eastry in the county of Kent, and became a shadow minister for welfare in the House of Lords.[1]

As of 2012, Freud is in charge of reform of the benefits system.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Freud,_Baron_Freud#Life_and_career


Lord Freud: People “too Comfortable” on Benefits.

November 24, 2012
Andrew Coates
http://intensiveactivity.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/lord-freud-people-to o-comfortable-on-benefits/

The Guardian reports, on the latest wit and wisdom by our old friend Lord Freud,

The government’s welfare reform minister has suggested lone parents, sickness claimants and other people on benefits are too comfortable not having to work for their income, saying they are able to “have a lifestyle” on the state.

In an interview with House Magazine, Lord Freud is reported to have said the benefits system is “dreadful” and discourages poor people from taking the risks he implied they should be willing to bear to change their circumstances.

“The incapacity benefits, the lone parents, the people who are self-employed for year after year and only earn hundreds of pounds or a few thousand pounds, the people waiting for their work ability assessment then not going to it – all kinds of areas where people are able to have a lifestyle off benefits and actually off conditionality,” the Conservative peer said.

They add,

Freud, a former journalist and investment banker, told the magazine that his background did not make him unable to understand the reality of living on benefits. “You don’t have to be the corpse to go to the funeral, which is the implied criticism there,” he said.

What an odd metaphor.
No doubt he was thinking of us as living corpses.

Some may say that it is a bit rich for somebody who’s never done an honest day’s work in his life to complain about the lazy-bones out-of-work, single parents, and the sick and disabled.

Somebody who’s pretty comfortable to say the least.

His Lordlyship is cited elsewhere as saying that, “Too many people on benefits see it as a “lifestyle choice” rather than a safety net.”

Rumbled!


Lord Freud

We know you and the rest of the noble folks who populate the House of Lords are really into ermine – but have you been smoking it ?

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November 24, 2012 at 1:46 pm | #2
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Please note, spelling mistake… Its Lord Fraud…. (or should be)

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November 24, 2012 at 1:54 pm | #3
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Well Lord Freud, here’s brief overview of what we have to do to have our so-called comfortable life on Jobseekers Allowance:

1: We have to sign a Jobseekers Agreement listing how and what we will do every week to find a job.

2: We have to prove we have been looking for work every time we sign on via our up-to-date joblogs, if we can’t prove we have been looking for work, this raises a doubt on your claim for Jobseekers Allowance and we are sanctioned.

3: Most of us now have to attend The Work Programme with a Private Provider who have a black box approach regarding customers, we also have to show them our up-to-date joblogs and are subject to sanctions at their whim for miniscule infractions to their regime.

4: We are verbally bullied and lied to by both the Jobcentre and Private Providers, they try to verbally manovere you into a situation where a doubt can be raised on your claim for Jobseekers Allowance, then you are sanctioned.

5: The Private Provider trys to get you to sign away your rights to The Data Protection Act 1998 (as all the Jobcentres are now trying to do for Universal Jobmatch)

6: The Private Providers issue instructions and targets you have to meet for your next appointment with them, if you haven’t met these targets by your next appointment, this again raises a doubt on your claim for Jobseekers Allowance and you can be sanctioned.

And there’s a whole buttload of other things the Jobcentre and Private Providers can sanction you for – so you tell me – are our live’s comfortable – because if this is comfort – I really don’t want to know about hardship.

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If I were Lord Freud, I’d belt up, have another whiskey, fall asleep in the House of Lords and forget about all this!

JBS
November 24, 2012 at 7:50 pm | #5
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In 1970 Victor David Dinnerstein produced a book called ‘The Wit and Wisdom of Spiro T. Agnew’ which consists of blank pages.

I also remember that the singer/songwriter Tom Paxton wrote ‘The Ballad of Spiro Agnew’ which begins: “I’ll sing you a song of Spiro Agnew and all the things he’s done”. The rest of the song is an instrumental.

Of course I would never suggest that Lord Freud is the new Spiro Agnew.

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“In an interview with House Magazine, Lord Freud is reported to have said the benefits system is ‘dreadful’ and discourages poor people from taking the risks he implied they should be willing to bear to change their circumstances.”

You cannot take risks when you have no income. The only risks he has taken are with other peoples money. When the majority of your income goes on food and fuel you cannot ‘risk’ a single penny. Perhaps we should try and get unsecured loans from him – since he’s keen on risk. I can’t believe how completely out of touch he is.

Looking at the register of Lords interests he is a trustee of something called the Jecda foundation a ‘charity’ worth 1.6 million.
Trustees: David Anthony Freud, Priscilla Jane Freud, Mr Andrew Alexander Freud, Ms Emily Annette Freud, Miss Juliet Freud (nothing like keeping it in the family)
Based in Eastry Court, Church Street, Eastry, Sandwich, Kent, CT13 0HL (next to the church – use google street view it’s not labeled properly on the map).

3. THE OBJECTS FOR WHICH THE COMPANY IS ESTABLISHED ARE:
3.1 THE RELIEF OF POVERTY;
3.2 THE ADVANCEMENT OF EDUCATION AND HEALTH;
3.3 THE ADVANCEMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION OR IMPROVEMENT; AND
3.4 SUCH OTHER PURPOSES FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC AS SHALL BE EXCLUSIVELY CHARITABLE


Perhaps we should ask it for a grant.

Someone called ‘David Anthony Freud’ is a director of ’29 Montpelier Grove Management Company Limited’. This will probably be the freehold company for a London flat – which he may or may not be renting out to another MP.

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“You cannot take risks when you have no income”.

Absolutely.

I really feel for those people cleansed from their flats and houses in London under new Benefit rules and who have to set up elsewhere.

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Too right, when I was a yoof I gave up my council flat to move to London for work – of course it didn’t work out… I ended up homeless on the streets of London and living out of bins. I wouldn’t advise anyone on benefits to “take risks”, it is OK if you have the “back-up”, like plenty of money or rich parents to bail you out if things go wrong. Lord Fraud is talking *, folks on their uppers cannot afford to “take risks”.

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