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Carroll Quigley interview - Miilner's Round Table

 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Carroll Quigley interview - Miilner's Round Table Reply with quote

This is part 3 (the first 2 parts are a bit dull as they deal with book copyright issues).

Start listening closely at around 01:15...reference is being made to the All Souls fellows of Oxford University and Lionel Curtis in particular.

Listen in really closely from 05:50 onwards...'they were determined to build up Germany against France'.


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You can download a condensed version of Quigley's 'Tragedy and Hope' from here:
http://www.4shared.com/account/file/20002322/67a8f074/Tragedy_and_Hope _-_Carroll_Quigley.html?sId=KCBuxGAwEhpznhkS

Recommended viewing before reading the pdf:

Money as debt

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant find
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers zennon.


At 05:45, a reference is made to a conversation Quigley had with a gentleman called Alfred Zimmern who wrote a book called 'The Greek Commonwealth':
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Eckhard_Zimmern

According to Quigley, Zimmern appears to have been a member of the Round Table group for 10 years from 1913.

Zimmern: 'I resigned in 1923 because they were determined to build up Germany against France, I wouldn't stand for it so I resigned'.


Across the Atlantic, the role of Wall Str. financiers in building up Nazi Germany is a well-documented historical fact, e.g. see here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I lived in Oxford I was walking past All Souls one day and noticed the door was open as it is in this picture...



The porter was an affable fellow and explained thatb there were no 'students' as such at the college, it was only postgraduate studies.

Nevertheless a fee weeks later I went along to an Oxford Uni. Internationsl Relations society gig about 'the former soviet bloc' in All Souls where suprise guest was Oleg Gordievsky who was a 'defector', ex KGB Colonel and graduate of the Moscow Institute of International Affairs.

Russia's embassy for the Round Table group.

Coincidence???

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
Nevertheless a fee weeks later I went along to an Oxford Uni. Internationsl Relations society gig about 'the former soviet bloc' in All Souls where suprise guest was Oleg Gordievsky who was a 'defector', ex KGB Colonel and graduate of the Moscow Institute of International Affairs.

Let me get this straight: you just popped into a society gig...in All Souls...and there you saw the highest-ranking KGB defector ever...as a surprise guest?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To clarify Quigley's perspective, here's an excerpt from the introduction to 'The Anglo-American Establishment':


http://yamaguchy.netfirms.com/cikkek/anglo_01.html

Carroll Quigley wrote:
I should say a few words about my general attitude toward this subject. I approached the subject as a historian. This attitude I have kept. I have tried to describe or to analyze, not to praise or to condemn. I hope that in the book itself this attitude is maintained.

Of course I have an attitude, and it would be only fair to state it here. In general, I agree with the goals and aims of the Milner Group. I feel that the British way of life and the British Commonwealth of Nations are among the great achievements of all history. I feel that the destruction of either of them would be a terrible disaster to mankind.

I feel that the withdrawal of Ireland, of Burma, of India, or of Palestine from the Commonwealth is regrettable and attributable to the fact that the persons in control of these areas failed to absorb the British way of life while they were parts of the Commonwealth.

I suppose, in the long view, my attitude would not be far different from that of the members of the Milner Group.

But, agreeing with the Group on goals, I cannot agree with them on methods.

To be sure, I realize that some of their methods were based on nothing but good intentions and high ideals—higher ideals than mine, perhaps.

But their lack of perspective in critical moments, their failure to use intelligence and common sense, their tendency to fall back on standardized social reactions and verbal cliches in a crisis, their tendency to place power and influence into hands chosen by friendship rather than merit, their oblivion to the consequences of their actions, their ignorance of the point of view of persons in other countries or of persons in other classes in their own country—these things, it seems to me, have brought many of the things which they and I hold dear close to disaster.


In this Group were persons like Esher, Grey, Milner, Hankey, and Zimmern, who must command the admiration and affection of all who know of them.

On the other hand, in this Group were persons whose lives have been a disaster to our way of life. Unfortunately, in the long run, both in the Group and in the world, the influence of the latter kind has been stronger than the influence of the former.

This has been my personal attitude. Little of it, I hope, has penetrated to the pages which follow.

I have been told that the story I relate here would be better left untold, since it would provide ammunition for the enemies of what I admire. I do not share this view.

The last thing I should wish is that anything I write could be used by the Anglophobes and isolationists of the Chicago Tribune. But I feel that the truth has a right to be told, and, once told, can be an injury to no men of good will. Only by a knowledge of the errors of the past is it possible to correct the tactics of the future.

1949
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

three powers - balance of power system in runup to WW2
Germany, Russia, UK/US
Multibock world
World Domination - round table group - the only way - Atlantic union

zennon wrote:
Brilliant find


The Secret Society That Ruined the World: Rhodes, Rothschild, Milner – Jay Dyer
https://jaysanalysis.com/2017/08/27/the-secret-society-that-ruined-the -world-rhodes-rothschild-milner-jay-dyer/

The Secret Society That Ruined the World: Rhodes, Rothschild, Milner - Jay Dyer

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I continue my analysis of Quigley’s later work, The Anglo American Establishment, following upon my lectures last year on the total 1300 pages of Tragedy and Hope. Here, we look deeper into the key players who make up the real Illuminati that successfully engineered the faux democracy of the modern world, run by a shadow banking-corporate empire. The full talks can be obtained by subscribing to JaysAnalysis for 4.95 a month or 60.00 per year at the PayPal links.

“The goals which Rhodes and Milner sought and the methods by which they hoped to achieve them were so similar by 1902 that the two are almost indistinguishable Both sought to unite the world, and above all the English-speaking world in a federal structure around Britain. Both felt that this goal could best be achieved by a secret band of men united to one another by devotion to the common cause and by personal loyalty to one another. Both felt that this band should pursue its goal by secret political and economic influence behind the scenes and by the control of journalistic, educational, and propaganda agencies.” -Quigley (Namely, the Liberal Imperium.)
“The great idealistic adventure which began with Arnold Toynbee and Lord Alfred Milner in 1875 had slowly ground its way to a finish of bitterness and ashes.” -Quigley

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