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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Your editor criticised in Private Eye/Harry's Place Reply with quote

Boring but true!

Your editor (me) has been slagged by Harry's Place blog then Private Eye's Ratbiter (Ian Bone, Larry O'Hara or Paul Stott?) as being paranoid and homophobic.

Green Party Head of external comunications, Tracy Deighton-Brown, 01233 721825, told me what I'd said was against Green Party policy but didn't know what the policy actually was, and Eugene Byrne of Bristol's Venue magazine have both been in touch with me over the last couple of weeks about this piece on the Harry's Place blog. Here's my reply to Eugene.

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Yes, I was accurately quoted but it's a difficult conversation to accurately record what exactly they said to me being over six months ago. I was told by the Muslim News reporter that the books depicted a positive portrayal of gay sexual relations to primary age kids and were targeted at very young children.

I am a Christian and thus have a lot in common with Muslim ideas of good educational practices. I believe all three monotheistic faiths actually worship the same God.

I am certain though that I couched my reply in the terms of 'sounds like' because I hadn't actually seen the books, which I don't see in the final piece. Personally I object to children at and up to the age of puberty being taught that homosexual relationships are 'normal' and portray them in a positive light. Certainly these terms should be explained to children at an appropriate age but not with a positive spin. If I had children at a school which taught such things I would see it as such an important issue that I would consider withdrawing them.

I use the term 'gay mafia' to describe gay rights campaigners who overstep the mark and to emphasise that no social group or community is immune to criticism. Once children reach sexual maturity as far as I'm concerned it's their affair.

As I said on the phone I'm proud to be attacked by Harry's Place as it is trying to make its name as a site that attacks civil liberties campaigners.

I don't think it's a coincidence that this criticism is timed to coincide with a documentary I'm working on exposing the police and government lies over the 7/7 London Bombings... and calling for a proper public enquiry with all the various witnesses evidence made public.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Talking of the Israeli video security companies Reply with quote

Israeli company will secure Vatican
JTA, Nov 24 2008
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An Israeli company has won a contract to secure Vatican City, an Israeli newspaper reported. The Herzliya-based intelligent video appliances firm ioimage has won a contract estimated at $4m to $5m to secure sensitive areas of Vatican City, the Israeli daily Yediot Achronot reported Nov 20. Roni Kaz, director of ioimage, told the newspaper that the examination of the city and its needs took three years. The system includes "smart" security cameras that can be viewed in real time by computers connected to the Internet.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AND the supreme acolade.

At last I've made it on to stage 2 of Ghandi's analysis of how the British Establishment deals with tellers of unpopular truths. Such as the total lack of scrutiny of the 7/7 attacks.

I just got a phone call telling me I have a whole column about me in this week's (today's) Private Eye!

I'm guessing it's about Nick, could be wrong though.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogmatism about the Holocaust was not always such. I treasure this quotation, which I truly believe is a genuine one:

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"Most of the memoirs and reports [of the concentration camp survivors] are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks and apologies."


-- Samuel Gringauz, in Jewish Social Studies (New York), Vol. 12 (Jan 1950), p. 65.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rowan Berkeley wrote:
Dogmatism about the Holocaust was not always such. I treasure this quotation, which I truly believe is a genuine one:

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"Most of the memoirs and reports [of the concentration camp survivors] are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks and apologies."


-- Samuel Gringauz, in Jewish Social Studies (New York), Vol. 12 (Jan 1950), p. 65.


Rowan, could you possibly link to that article or give us an idea of its broad context. Thanks. As you will be aware, there is seemingly an online cottage industry involving scouring books and publications for quotes that look good in isolation, but I'm assuming you wouldn't simply give a one line quote from an article you've never read.
Though even on those terms, I can't see it's that big a deal. It could equally apply to any kind of body of recollection. You may as well say the same thing about a bunch of people giving their individual accounts of a fight in a pub and deduce the fight therefore did not occur. In fact, you could say the same thing about 911.
When dealing with large bodies of eyewitness testimony, the task is to look at the key points that are mutually corroborated by independent witnesses and backed by other kinds of evidence.

That Private Eye column does not mention Nick.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I'm top Red in the South West of England on Combat 18's Redwatch as of 27 October 2008.
Was it because of this page?

A bit bizzare to be slagged by both right and left at the same time
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:23 am    Post subject: Dogsmilk, why ever is your avatar jean-paul sartre? Reply with quote

I am afraid I cannot give you the context for that marvellous quotation from Samuel Gringauz. As you can see, it is from a New York print periodical of the 1950s. Perhaps someone could find it in the New York public library, or the Library of Congress.

I have considered the possibility that Gringauz was actually talking about the concentration camp staff, not the inmates, but I think this can be ruled out by the use of the phrase "graphomanic exaggeration." I cannot imagine any german soldier, of whatever rank, resorting to "graphomanic exaggeration" in his "memoirs or reports."

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Dogsmilk, why ever is your avatar jean-paul sartre? Reply with quote

Rowan Berkeley wrote:
I am afraid I cannot give you the context for that marvellous quotation from Samuel Gringauz. As you can see, it is from a New York print periodical of the 1950s. Perhaps someone could find it in the New York public library, or the Library of Congress.

I have considered the possibility that Gringauz was actually talking about the concentration camp staff, not the inmates, but I think this can be ruled out by the use of the phrase "graphomanic exaggeration." I cannot imagine any german soldier, of whatever rank, resorting to "graphomanic exaggeration" in his "memoirs or reports."


No I don't think it's from staff. Mind you, someone could do with finding some obscure quote virtually nobody will be able to look up to try to score points with about them as their accounts tend to closely corroborate those of these here graphomanics.

I may have my differences with Tony from time to time, but I do have to say I'm quite impressed he's got himself on Redwatch.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally got a letter last week explaining that I am suspended from the Green Party for supporting Muslim and non-muslim parents who sucessfully demonstrated outside two Bristol primary schools for the withdrawal of these books.

Green Party Core Value 5
"A healthy society is based on voluntary co-operation between empowered individuals in a democratic society, free from discrimination whether based on race, colour, gender, sexual orientation, religion, social origin or any other prejudice."
http://www.greenparty.org.uk/about

And here's the books
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King and King
The story begins in a traditional vein, with the prince who must marry so that his mother can retire. The choice of princesses allows the artist and writer to show off their comic skills in a series of one-page princesses, performing before the prince and his mother, completed with a two page spread of the splendid climax, followed by a same-sex wedding. This work is a natural choice for those who want their little ones to have a rosier perspective on same-sex romance.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1582460612/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_and_king

King and King and Family
"Join newlyweds King Lee and King Bertie on their journey into the noisy jungle. As they float down a river, wild animal families turn out to greet them but the royal travellers suspect something more significant awaits them in the trees. The illustrious pair soon discover that theres no adventure more wonderful than starting a family."
http://www.amazon.co.uk/King-Family-Linda-Haan/dp/1582461139/

And Tango Makes Three
Roy and Silo are just like the other penguin couples at the zoo - they bow to each other, walk together and swim together. But Roy and Silo are a little bit different - they're both boys. Then, one day, when Mr Gramzay the zookeeper finds them trying to hatch astone, he realises that it may be time for Roy and Silo to become parents for real.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1847381480
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Tango_Makes_Three

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I finally got a letter last week explaining that I am suspended from the Green Party for supporting Muslim and non-muslim parents who sucessfully demonstrated outside two Bristol primary schools for the withdrawal of these books.


dont think the BNP will have you either Tony. Very Happy

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Neither will I have them sir!
Here is both the Private Eye piece and the Bristol Venue piece for the record as neither are on the internet.

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GREEN GROW THE BIGOTS, 0
ENVIRONMENTALISTS who read the leaked BNP membership list are in for a shock. Among the far rightists listed as collectors of "lurchers", "World War II militaria" and "medieval longbows" is one Keith Bessant, whom the BNP describes as a "former Green Party parliamentary candidate".
So he is. Bessant was one of the West Country's leading Greens, standing in Cheltenham in the 2001 and 2005 elections. A party spokesman said he had gone over to the BNP because its climate-change policy "was more radical", a statement which was strange for what it left out.
The Greens missed the opportunity to say that Bessant had turned from a lovable environmentalist into a bigot. But that may be because the bigotries of anti-semitism and homophobia are not exactly hanging offences in the party.
In June, police searching for a missing German woman, Natalie Bracht, arrested Tony Gosling, a Green candidate in Bristol, and his partner. They searched his home before releasing them without charge. Northumbria detectives said they were worried about Bracht's mental health and the safety of her five children after she covered their faces with headscarves and vanished from her Sunderland home. She has since turned up safe and well in Germany.
Gosling admitted to meeting Bracht briefly.
She told him that Mossad was behind the 7/7 bombings, which had "nothing to do with Muslims", and added for good measure that South Gosforth Reformed Synagogue in Newcastle hid a "Masonic/Zionist cell".
She confided in the right man. Gosling said that although he could not confirm her story of a Jewish conspiracy in South Gosforth, it was important to bring her accusations to a wider audience.
Previously, Gosling had announced that he kept "an open mind" on whether the forged Protocols of the Elders of Zion that Hitler used to justify the Holocaust were indeed forged. "Many Jewish people believe The Protocols of Zion to be anti-Jewish hate material," he said. "In fact, their authenticity has never been entirely proven or disproven."
Gosling told the Muslim News, meanwhile, that the introduction of books about gay relationships into Bristol schools "personally disgusted" him. "It's the gay mafia in full swing."
Green conspiracy theories are used to explain not only the 7/7 Islamist attacks but also 9/11. Martin Deane, Green candidate in Hull, announced: "Having clocked up a few hundred hours now looking at evidence on the internet, I believe at the very least there is culpable US government complicity in the events of 9/11."
The Hull Green Party's website links to 9/11 "truth" reports that blame the attacks on the CIA and, of course, Mossad. Deane campaigned with fellow activist Justin Walker to get his party to demand a reinvestigation into the 9/11 attacks. The motion was defeated - but by the less than crushing margin of two votes.
Walker left the Greens when he went a conspiracy theory too far and embraced David Icke, the former sports presenter and green leader, who believes the world is controlled by giant lizards rather than Jews. The Green establishment might "demonise" Icke, Walker said in an open letter, but "closed minds, my friends, do not get to the truth!"
The gay rights group Outrage is demanding that the party cleans up its act, while Jewish Greens are so nervous that they have established a splinter group, Greens Engage.
Perhaps the gay and Jewish greens should not be too surprised by the crossover between the Green Party and the BNP. After all, the first European government to preach environmentalism was the government of Nazi Germany.
'Ratbiter'


Venue magazine wrote:

Green Party row over 'gay' schoolbooks
Special report: Eugene Byrne
The Green Party in Bristol has suspended one of its members for making homophobic comments in a newspaper interview. Remarks made by Tony Gosling, 46, have been condemned by prominent gay rights campaigner
Peter Tatchell, who is also the Green Party's Spokesperson for Human Rights. The offending quotes were published in The Muslim News, a UK monthly newspaper. In April it carried an article about parents of children at two Bristol inner-city primary schools objecting to books
portraying gay relationships as normal. Bristol City Council said at the time that the books are to try to prevent children whose parents are in same-sex relationships being bullied.
The Muslim News quoted Gosling as a Green Party council candidate who said he was "per¬sonally disgusted" by the books. "No way should kids be indoctrinated in this way. Anyone who says so is branded as homophobic which they are not; it's the gay mafia in full swing."
Gosling told Venue that to the best of his recollection the article quoted him accurately, and he stands by the comments he made. He says he did not claim to be a Green Party council candidate (though he has stood for election in the past) and made the remarks in a personal capacity. "I was told by the Muslim News reporter that the books depicted a positive portrayal of gay sexual relations to primary age kids and were targeted at very young children. I am a Christian and thus have a lot in common with Muslim ideas of good educational practices. Personally I object to children at and up to the age of puberty being taught that homosexual relationships are 'normal' and portray them in a positive light.. I use the term 'gay mafia' to describe gay rights campaigners who overstep the mark and to emphasise that no social group or community is immune to criticism."
Gosling is a well-known and divisive figure in local activist circles, involved in film-making and internet radio. He was one of the original group involved in setting up the Bristol Indymedia independent news website, and is also currently Vice Chair of the Bristol branch of the National Union of Journalists. When asked whether or not his statements ran contrary to the equalities policies both of the Green party and other organ¬isations he represents, he refused to be drawn, saying he had better read the books first.
He has a national profile for investigating various conspiracy theories, claiming, among other things, that the government is covering up the full story of the July 2005 London bombings. He maintains a huge, rambling website at www.bilderberg.org which is crammed with reports and speculation on global conspiracy theories, Biblical prophecy, the Freemasons and more.
His comments to the Muslim News were only recently highlighted by the Harry's Place political blog (www.hurryupharry.org). In response, Peter Tatchell said: "His anti-gay stance is disowned by the Green Party. It is right that pupils should have an awareness and understanding of others who are different from them. These books are not about sex. They help promote tolerance, which is a good thing."
Gosling suspects that the emergence of the story now is a plot against him: "I don't think it's a coincidence that this criticism is timed to coincide with a documentary I'm working on exposing the police and government lies over the 7/7 London bombings, and calling for a proper public enquiry with all the various witnesses' evidence made public."
The Green Party in Bristol last week issued a statement saying that in the Muslim News interview, he gave the inaccurate impression that he was a Green Party candidate, which he was not His membership has now been suspended pending the outcome of a disciplinary process which may result in his expulsion.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All this garbage talk from ignoramuses makes you entirely lovable and obviously on the correct path.
I relish it as much as you obviously should do
Banging you up the list of the apprehended as these redwatch MI agents would obviously wish
Tony is first in line to be demonised, imprisoned, messed over, from the truth movement. It's already happened once
How do we protect?

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Here's some more incisive genius from Hurry Up Harry!

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I have various problems with this recent episode.

1. Anonymous Journalist called 'ratbiter' and Eugene Byrne of Bristol's Venue magazine were both told, presumably by national GP, that I was about to be suspended before I was told anything.

2. I was supporting Bristol parents, Muslim and others who didn't want their seven year olds 'educated' with thes picture books portraying gay relationships. They had just run a sucessful protest outside 2 primary schools to have the books removed as there had been no consultation with parents.

3. The Green Party policy says nothing about sexuality in primary school education and this initial suspension and the publicity it's generated assumes that it is Green Party policyto allow gay rights campaigns into primary schools. At an age where I would argue they (and all sex education) has absolutely no place, hence my using the strong tem 'gay mafia'. It is simply lazy thinking to assume that gay rights extends into all walks of life - even children as young as six. And that gay rights campaigners can 'do no wrong'.

4. 2 weeks after the first press call my local party, Bristol West, still haven't asked me anything about the business. All this bad publicity could have been avoided if the party had talked to me before the press. It's as if the party, in the person of External Communications maestro Tracy Deighton-Brown, were only too happy to fall upon its sword.

5. The pieces are both based on an anonymous blog piece by 'Harry' who the previous week had penned this utter dross about the UK's top civil liberties campaigner.
http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/06/19/*-off-shami-chakrabarti/

6. My local party have accused me of telling Muslim News that I was a current Green Party Candidate which I wasn't, to my knowledge, and certainly didn't.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the way combat 18 post your address.
Shouldn't we have a similar dedicated thread for wanted criminals, conspirators, shameless shills and cover up artists?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Private Eye's 'Ratbiter' Paul Stott and/or Larry O'Hara?
Both now suspended from this forum.

If this is the case should we invite one or other or both back?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the replies in today's Private Eye to last week's hit piece.

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Sir,
Concerning Ratcatcher's (sic) Nazis and homophobes under the bed piece attacking the Green Party, it was I who helped persuade a majority of the party conference to support a call for a new investigation into the 9/11 attacks. None of the people he attacks were present.
Ratcatcher was clearly not present either. Ratcatcher forgot to mention the only argument that anyone actually raised: that the facts don 't fit the official 9/11 story and many in the US including the US Green Party are supporting the call to reinvestigate 9/11. Having done many months work researching and writing a book on the subject (when I could have earned much more money running my coffee business) I find it a little irritating that instead of checking the facts on the 9/11 attacks, which as you will recall "changed everything" (every pro-Washington media outlet) and made Washington s pre-planned Iraq war a reality, you prefer to run "political analysis" on the Green Party, fuelled presumably over a few invigorating jars at the local hostelry.
By the way, I am not a Nazi or a homophobe, just an old-fashioned left of centre guy who distrusts Washington and the CIA. So are most people in the 9/11 Truth movement.
IAN HENSHALL,
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Sir,
'Ratbiter ' is stretching the bounds of reason and logic to breaking point by implying that a couple of ex-Green Party members who are now in the BNP and one or two conspiracy theorists in the ranks means that the Green Party can trace a direct line of descent from the Nazis. Infact the whole piece was a farrago of snide insinuation and sixth-form debating society ad hominem arguments.
You might like to know that the Tony Gosling mentioned in the piece has also been a local representative for the National Union of Journalists - presumably, using Ratbiter s logic, this means that all journalists are also Nazis, including, er... 'Ratbiter'!
DR DAVID MURAKAMI WOOD (ex-Green Party National Policy Committee),
North Shields.
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Sir,
I fear that Ratbiter may have caused Tony Gosling to be confused with someone else of the same name (Green Grow The Bigots, 0 - Eye 1224). The Tony Gosling who says of the blatantly faked Protocols of the Elders of Zion that "their authenticity has never been entirely proven or disproven" obviously applies very rigorous standards of proof indeed. He cannot be the same as the avowedly christian, ex-BBC, "investigative journalist" who plays such a prominent part in the 9/11 "truth" movement. In those circles any little wisp of circumstantial fluff is hailed as "evidence ", if not "proof", of something or other. No aircraft were crashed into the twin towers, you understand, they were merely holograms.
If you doubt this, you are simply a dupe or mouthpiece of the CIA.
JIM PATON, London E8.
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I like the way combat 18 post your address.
Shouldn't we have a similar dedicated thread for wanted criminals, conspirators, shameless shills and cover up artists?


OK, so not the most popular idea ever expressed?
Would there be a problem with a thread like this? I can understand if people feel that this is not the place for it, if you know of a better place you can let me know.
I just feel that the perpetrators of the crimes against humanity that are so often discussed here feel no fear whatsoever. Ok, we discuss them but who are they really? And where are they? Who is at the top of the pile?
Are we going to see civil unrest here like we have in Greece at the moment? If we do, I'm sure that the people that are really the cause of all this will watch from afar and laugh while the hordes throw stones at sheep in uniforms.
Name the perpetrators.
Post their addresses.
Post their contact details.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: The Larry O'Hara Show Reply with quote

If you want a snicker, you could read the many lampoons on O'Hara written by the ever-shifting collective that calls itself "Stewart Home". For a start, try this one:
http://www.stewarthomesociety.org/lohss.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much of the Redwatch network of websites seems presently to be down - except my page of course.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dont think the BNP will have you either Tony. Very Happy


Given the BNP's current rejection of overt anti-semtism, probably not no.

Must go - new Private Eye column to write...........

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said once before Tony that Stott was an asset
I'll withdraw that now as circumstances become more dire
He's just a tiresome sucker of no value whatsoever, whether he or Larry are or are not Private Eye columnists
We can always have a look at these idiots' antics on their nonsense websites
If they've got some secret brass, then that will be hoovered up shortly
If they're skint and in the least bit genuine, they'll be drawn to the Greek model in the near future
It's getting a bit sick that we have to entertain these critics and their liberal old paradigm meme promoters in the establishment media
It's more use trying to woo the Combat 88ers, though I agree with none of their aims either
At least they've got the message that there's something seriously wrong, though their mental illness is likely to take them down also if they don't learn to ease up
I've gone from eternal optimist to rather pessinmist in recent times, the way things are going, and accept that two thirds of the worlds population is going down within the next very few years
Let's hope it's the skeptics, the cynics, the artificial anarchists, the beligerent fascists and haters, the subservient and totally entranced
The variety of much-derided truthers ought by rights to survive
The majority here and elsewhere have got a grip

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I guess he sees it as a power game - look I can get my bs into Private Eye while you can't get the truth about London Underground privatisation into the hands of the Israeli Defence Force Engineers (Daniel Bodner) into Private Eye. A playground prank.

Well it's irritating, but not in the least unexpected considering the vast racist corporate world war three machine behind him.
http://www.threeworldwars.com/nwo-timeline2.htm#00

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just been breezing through my final emails to the Bristol Green Party List before I was blocked.

They were on the folly of conjestion charging and how much money companies like Crapita were making at the game.

Nice one Manchester.

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Harry’s Place and the BNP – Know the difference? There isn’t one
Tuesday, 11 May 2010 17:30 Added by PT Editor Omar Ghraieb
http://www.paltelegraph.com/columnists/peter-eyre/5954-harrys-place-an d-the-bnp--know-the-difference-there-isnt-one

UK, May 11, (Pal Telegraph – By Peter Eyre) After my last response to Harry’s place I was hoping that they would again go on the attack but suddenly for some strange reason they remain silent. Could it be that they are not in a position to respond or do not have the technical background to discuss my comments. It’s truly very very sad because it’s good to debate, especially when this group of bullies just kept attacking anything that moves or anyone who reads the Qur'an.



It actually didn’t take long to find out a little more about these Zionist intimidators that operate a cloak and dagger operation against anyone that talks out against Israel. So its time to play the same game that they play and at the same time expose them and who they actually work for.

Head of the establishment and registered owner of the blog is the notorious David T who’s real name is David S Toube. This top of the league intimidator is a lawyer by profession and can be found at the London offices of Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP, City Place House, 55 Basinghall Street, London EC2V 5EH. I am sure if any of those that have been intimidated or bullied by this low life can certainly contact him via 020 7614 2200 or why not email him dtoube@cgsh.com and don’t forget to greet him with Shalom (שָׁלוֹם).

The company portfolio reads as follows: The corporate practice includes mergers and acquisitions (both public and private). It also has significant experience in private equity transactions (both public and private), joint venture and outsourcing work, corporate reorganizations and restructurings. Our lawyers work on both U.S. and English law transactions and frequently work with colleagues in our U.S. and European offices on large cross-border deals. Our clients include major corporations, private equity houses and financial institutions.

It is extremely hard to understand why such a well recognized international legal company would hire someone, who must surely spend most of his time writing articles and insulting anything Arabic or Islamic. Does his company monitor his performance? One would imagine that his productivity on legal matters must fall well short of expectations as he spends most of the time on Harry’s Blog.

One would normally associate a company such as Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton as having only the best lawyers under their roof but obviously sometimes there is an exception to the rule.

David Toube not only attacks the Palestine Telegraph but is also one of the main instigators of Islamaphobia in the UK. He frequently also attacks the BNP, when in actual fact it is a fine line between Harry’s Place and the BNP as both groups are full of racial hatred. There is no place in this country for the likes of both David Toube and his twin brother Nick Griffin. If I was the CEO of this well respected company I would immediately remove him from my staff for bringing the good name of the company into disrepute.

David Toube has a long history of harassment going back some years and what is so amazing about this imbecile is the fact that he is extremely critical of what he considers to be Islamic Ranters……….so my dear readers it is time to start taking off your shoes and start throwing them at his companies premises…..can you imagine the impact?

Whilst talking about ranting…..take a look at David himself ranting on at a meeting that he gate crashed. This is a typical, off his brain, Zionist that simply cannot take no for an answer….enjoy:

http://en.kendincos.net/video-llnlnrh-islamophobic-rant-by-cleary-gott lieb-lawyer-david-toube.html

For my part being ex Military Intel, maybe David Toube is acting as an agent for the Israel Government or Mossad. Having observed his mannerisms and his ranting I would really consider him more of a liability or security risk than an operative. When such a person, by his writing and mouthing off, attracts criticism, the whole ball game changes. As they say in England “Let sleeping dogs lie.” It is clear to me (with my background) that anyone who challenges comments made in a paper and who do not themselves have technical/professional ability to explain why are a danger and embarrassment to whom they represent. Instead of being an asset to Israel or the company they represent they become a liability.

David Toube shot himself in the foot when he challenged me on two issues:

The IDF use of weapons containing uranium components in Gaza.

The attempt by Israel to acquire Gaza vast offshore gas reserves

We are all professionals in our own areas of expertise and it was clear that David Toube was in dangerously deep water and that the topic on hand was clearly above his mental capacity.

A flat mate of his passed an extremely good reference for him when he stated the following “

I lived in a Montefiore Hall flat with David Toube in the first year of his undergraduate degree course at Southampton University. He has always been opinionated. Last thing I heard somebody had punched him on the nose at the graduation ball. He seemed to play devil's advocate too much. I would say he was an intellectual bully too.

I am sure that we can dig much deeper into other members of Harry’s Place if they choose to continue to attack the Palestine Telegraph or continue to insult Islam…..remember dear David T “What goes around comes around”……just get back into your box and close the lid….would be even better if that box was a coffin!!

Shalom

Peter Eyre – Middle East Consultant – 11/5/2010

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