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1964, 2nd August - Govt. Lies in Gulf of Tonkin Incident

 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: False Flag - report confirms Gulf of Tonkin faked Reply with quote

Gulf of Tonkin confirmed not to have happened

Something we all probably knew anyway...

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080108/pl_afp/usvietnamintelligence512

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The author of the report "demonstrates that not only is it not true, as (then US) secretary of defense Robert McNamara told Congress, that the evidence of an attack was 'unimpeachable,' but that to the contrary, a review of the classified signals intelligence proves that 'no attack happened that night,'" FAS said in a statement.

"What this study demonstrated is that the available intelligence shows that there was no attack. It's a dramatic reversal of the historical record," Aftergood said.

"There were previous indications of this but this is the first time we have seen the complete study," he said.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing stuff.

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During the war, North Vietnamese intelligence units sometimes succeeded in penetrating US communications systems, and they could monitor American message traffic from within, according to the report "Spartans in Darkness."

On several occasions "the communists were able, by communicating on Allied radio nets, to call in Allied artillery or air strikes on American units," it said.



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: The gulf of Tonkin was a Planned attack on an American ship. Reply with quote

The gulf of Tonkin was an attack on an American warship by the United States Goverment. A False flag operation so President Lindon Baines Johnson could esculate the Vietnam war. Alex Jones has gone to an awful lot of trouble to research this topic. Mr. Alex Jones,Austin Texas.
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This was long before I was in Nam and if I am wrong then I stand corrected. Http://www.myspace.com/nasa53 False Flag ops in archives
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: 1964, 2nd August - Govt. Lies in Gulf of Tonkin Incident Reply with quote

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Sat03Jul1971 Jim Morrison dies in Paris aged 27 COINTELPRO?
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=22364


....August 1964, still more than 20 years ago, to There were at least six of them, Russian-designed Swatow gunboats armed with 37-mm and 28-mm guns, and P-4's. At 9.52 they opened fire on the destroyers with automatic weapons, and this time from as close as 2,000 yards. The night glowed early with the nightmarish glare of air dropped flares and boat's searchlights. Two of the enemy boats went down. '

That's the kind of vivid detail that the news magazines have made famous. I don't mean to single out Time. On the same date Life said almost the same thing and that week's issue of Newsweek had torpedoes whipping by, US ships blazing out salvo after salvo of shells. It had a PT boat bursting into flames.

There was only one trouble. There was no battle. There was not a single intruder, never mind six of them. Never mind Russian designed Swatow gunboats armed with 37mm and 28mm guns. They never opened fire. They never sank. They never fired torpedoes. They never were.

http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/Gulf-of-Tonkin.htm

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:47 pm    Post subject: The Vietnam Deception Reply with quote

http://snardfarker.ning.com/profiles/blogs/strange-time-to-decide-to-m ake?xg_source=shorten_twitter

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Strange Time To Decide To Make Vietnam War Fiasco Public! Update Added PDF!

# Posted by Guy Razer on July 15, 2010 at 4:00pm

SO...IN 1964 THEY CLASSIFIED ALL THIS TO KEEP THE PUBIC FROM OVER-REACTING TO THE FACTS?


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ND NOW THEY DECIDE TO LET IT ALL OUT...THAT THE GULF OF TONKIN INCIDENT DIDNT REALLY HAPPEN AFTER ALL...BUT EVERYBODY ALREADY KNOWS THAT ANYWAY SO NO BIGGIE....

ARE THEY TOTAL LUNATICS TO THINK IT DOESNT MATTER TO US?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/15/world/asia/15vietnam.html?_r=1&am...

ADMIRAL STOCKDALE (DOES THE NAME RING A BELL? IT SHOULD!!) HAD A FIGHTER PILOTS VIEW OF THE GULF OF TONKIN DURING THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT....HERE IS HIS EYEWITNESS REPORT!!



http://truthvault.ning.com/profiles/blogs/lbj-and-mcnamara-attacked

SENATOR CHURCH WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW ABOUT THIS INFORMATION REAL TIME...HE WAS THE REAL DEAL...FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN!!

NOW LOOK AT THIS SERIES OF PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVES...AND DECIDE WHAT JOHNSON WAS DOING...IN HIS TRANSITION FROM BEING VICE PRESIDENT TO PRESIDENT!!

THIS PREVIOUS POST NOV2008 IS REPRODUCED AS REFERENCE TO THIS ONGOING DECEPTION AND SLOW LEAK OF ACCURATE INFORMATION...

http://truthvault.ning.com/profiles/blogs/45-years-ago-tomorrow-a-s...
45 Years Ago Tomorrow! A Series of 3 Documents, An Assassination, A Coup, and A War!!
THESE THREE DIRECTIVES CHANGED THE COURSE OF HISTORY IN OUR RELATION TO VIETNAM!
ONE PARAGRAPH (PARAGRAPH 7) CHANGED ON THE PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE 273 SIGNED BY JOHNSON 4 DAYS AFTER JFK WAS MURDERED. NOTICE THE ORIGINAL PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE DRAFT DATED 21NOV1963 WAS NUMBERED 263 WHILE THE SECOND DRAFT WAS FROM THE SAME DAY WITH A DIFFERENT NUMBER AND THE SAME CONTENT......HMMMMM
THEN COMES THE FINAL DIRECTIVE 273 WITH PARAGRAPH 7 CALLING FOR INFORMATION ON INCREASED ACTION AGAINST NORTH VIETNAM INFORMATION FROM DOD, STATE ETC...THEN SIGNED BY JOHNSON!! ONE PARAGRAPH...SO MANY LIVES....AND HIS COMPANY WAS....KELLOGG BROWN AND ROOT.....AKA KBR....HMMM!!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/4068129/National-Security-Action-Memorandums -263-273

A series of 3 documents that show the Kennedy plan for withdrawal from Vietnam and how with one paragraph change in the National Security Action Memorandum we went to war for LBJ!! The question is WHY!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daniel Ellsberg, who was on duty in the Pentagon the night of August 4 receiving messages from the ship, reported that the ship was on a secret electronic warfare support measures mission (codenamed DESOTO) near Northern Vietnamese territorial waters.
On July 31, 1964, USS Maddox (DD-731) had begun its intelligence collection mission in the Gulf of Tonkin. Captain George Stephen Morrison (father of Doors singer Jim Morrison) was in command of local American forces from his flagship USS Bon Homme Richard (CVA-31). The Maddox was under orders not to approach closer than eight miles (13 km) from the North's coast and four miles (6 km) from Hon Nieu island

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident#The_Incident



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