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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I saw a recent piece somewhere saying a mass grave was exhumed and the majority died of Malnutrition, in particular Typhus* was documented.

Then they were starved.
You cannnot die of 'famine' in a prison camp.

You cannot die of disease in a prison camp? Why?

Not that I,m saying that bad things didn't happen.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many Jews died in the pogroms in Russia [many] (but let us not forget the Kulaks) How many Jews died in Nazi prison camps [many] how many Jews will die in Palestine. Who financed and planned all this?

“And here let me reiterate how little the internationalist bankers, the Rothschilds, Schiffs, Lehmans, Warburgs, Barouks, cared about their racial brethren who were the victims of their nefarious schemes. In their eyes; the slaughter of the several hundred thousand innocent Jews by Hitler didn't bother them at all. They considered it a necessary sacrifice to further their Illuminati one-world plot just as the slaughter of the many millions in the wars that followed was a similar necessary sacrifice. And here is another grisly detail about those concentration-camps. Many of the Hitler soldier-executioners in those camps had previously been sent to Russia to acquire their arts of torture and brutalization so as to emphasize the horrors of the atrocities.”



Is this the reason why the so called PTB don’t want this to be discussed? Because if people get wise to it, they will loose much of their support which obviously needs the people to go along with it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hear Hear!

Holocaust, Hate Speech & Were the Germans so Stupid?


one wonders if the new partition of Europe is a re-run of previous history!
Germany has pulled out of NATO while Libya conflict goes on!

Suppressing free and open discussion on any subject is as bad as telling lies, and knowingly suppressing the truth is the biggest lie of all, because it is based, not on a mistake or a genuine error, but on a deliberate intention to deceive.

Having been tortured, Rudolf Höss, who was the commander of Auschwitz from 1940 to 1943, almost certainly lied to save the lives of his wife and children. Even if torture and duress cannot not be proven, the overwhelming reason for recognizing the utter falsity of the Höss confession is that the gassing method he described was not scientifically plausible.

Yet Höss's conviction has stood, by inference, as a testament to the cruelty of Germans in general, since he was tried at Nuremberg, in 1947, and subsequently hanged on April 16th, 1947, in Poland.

With great respect for those who have tried—though harassed, punished, fined, imprisoned and otherwise abused—to tell it like it really was: Arthur R. Butz, Robert Faurisson, Paul Grubach, Gerd Honsik, David Irving, Kevin Käther, Nicholas Kollerstrom, Fred Leuchter, Horst Mahler, Ingrid Rimland, Germar Rudolf, Bradley Smith, Sylvia Stolz, Fredrick Töbin, Ernst Zündel and many others.

General References:

Rudolf Höss

Charles F. Wennerstrum

Robert Faurisson: Höss torture.

Transfer Agreement Book

Japanese internment

Palestine Mandate

Agreement to bring America into WWI
http://separateduntoholiness.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/the-rothschild-1 901-1919-the-secret-creators-of-world-war-1/

At Basle I founded the Jewish state

Claim: Auschwitz II-Birkenau, more than 20,000 people could be gassed and cremated each day.

Cremation specialists disagree

Stephen F Pinter: No gas chambers in German camps
http://www.real-debt-elimination.com/real_freedom/Propaganda/nature_an d_condition_of_german_concentration_camps.htm

"Not one case of death by poison gas was found."

Interesting video: Israeli Minister "We always use the anti-Semitism trick or bring up the Holocaust" 14 August, 2002 Shulamit Aloni

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are real and fake everythings Andrew - this should not come as a suprise to you.
Nice one Disco

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and new laws in France?

Turkey suspends military ties with France over 'genocide row'
Published: 22 December, 2011, 20:26

French navy soldiers stand guards on the upper deck of the "GUEPRATTE" frigate (AFP Photo / Fayez Nureldine)

TAGS: Conflict, EU, Politics, Law, History
The Turkish Prime Minister, Tayyip Erdogan, says Ankara has rescinded an agreement allowing French military planes to land, and warships to dock, in the country. This brings the conflict over a "genocide bill" proposed in France to the NATO level.
"We are re-evaluating our relations with France. We will take step-by-step measures, depending on how the situation unfolds", said PM Erdogan, accusing French President Nicolas Sarkozy's ruling party of "politics based on racism, discrimination, xenophobia."
Turkey has frozen all contacts with France, and canceled any joint political, economic and military projects with the EU country. This includes joint maneuvers and an economic committee meeting in Paris in January.
Access to Turkish airspace and military bases has been reduced to case-by-case scheme.
Erdogan has confirmed Ankara is withdrawing the country's Ambassador to France. The ambassador, Tahsin Burcuoglu, is to leave on Friday.
French Foreign Affairs Minister Alain Juppe has called Turkey not to "overreact" to the outcome of the vote, urging for "good sense and moderation," reports Reuters.
The sanctions follow a vote in France's lower house of Parliament in favor of a law that would deem denial of genocide a crime.
Though the proposed bill cites genocides in general, Ankara believes the law targets the 1915 ethnic cleansing of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire – which Ankara denies to qualify as genocide.
The bill, proposing a penalty of up to one year in jail and a fine of 45,000 euro ($58,870) to those who deny or "outrageously minimize" sufferings due to genocide, now awaits ratification in the French Senate. The law may just as well die there, as was the fate of an earlier draft this year.
Before the vote in the French Parliament, Turkey warned of “grave consequences” for France if the law is adopted. As both countries are members of NATO, the row could complicate relations within the bloc.
France and Turkey have been cooperating on dealing with the Iranian nuclear stand-off, and crises in Syria and Afghanistan. Paris still considers Ankara a key partner in the NATO bloc, despite frictions between the two during the Libyan campaign, when Turkey contested France’s leadership over the operation.
France is Turkey's fifth biggest export market and the sixth biggest source of its imports, so the effects of a breakdown in relations could be major both for politicians and businessmen.

Azerbaijan Criticizes French Parliament's 'Armenian Genocide' Bill
http://www.rferl.org/content/azerbaijan_criticizes_french_decision_on_ armenian_genocide/24431659.html
December 23, 2011
BAKU -- Azerbaijani officials have expressed their disapproval of French legislation that makes it illegal to deny that the mass killing of Armenians in Ottoman Turkey nearly a century ago was genocide, RFE/RL's Azerbaijani Service reports.

Novruz Mammadov, head of the Foreign Relations Department in Azerbaijan's presidential adminstration, said the bill -- which was passed by the lower house of parliament on December 22 -- is unfair and affects France's image as a democratic country.

Mammadov said the bill "restricts freedom of expression and opinions. This step by parliament can affect Azerbaijani-French ties. It's necessary to wait a while [after the vote] and then we'll take the necessary steps."

The bill -- which would penalize someone denying "the Armenian genocide" with one year in jail and a fine of some 45,000 euros ($58,000) will next be voted on by the French Senate.

At least 1 million Armenians were killed in World War I-era Ottoman Turkey. Ankara denies it was genocide. Instead, it maintains that most of those deaths -- the numbers of which it says were much lower -- were the result of fighting between Armenians and Turks.

Turkey reacted swiftly to the vote in the National Assembly, or lower house of parliament, recalling its ambassador from Paris and suspending all political, economic, and military activities with France.

Azerbaijan is an longstanding ally of Turkey and hostile to Armenia, with whom it has a territorial conflict over the Nagorno-Karabakh region, internationally recognized as Azerbaijani territory but controlled by Armenians.

Azerbaijani NGOs such as the International Diaspora Center and the Union of Azerbaijan Patriotic War Veterans staged a protest on December 22 in front of the French Embassy in Baku.

Demonstrators shouted "French parliament, be fair!" "Shame on Sarkozy!" "French people, stop Sarkozy!" and "Stop assistance to Armenia, which has occupied Karabakh!" The protesters handed a statement to the embassy.

Trade Ties

During French President Nicolas Sarkozy's visit to Azerbaijan in October, President Ilham Aliyev said he hoped that trade turnover between the two countries would reach $4 billion. Aliyev said some 40 French companies are working successfully in Azerbaijan on a wide range of projects, including environmental protection.

"A French company will send our first telecommunications satellite into orbit," Aliyev said in October. "We have good opportunities to cooperate in this sphere."

French oil companies Total and Gaz de France also recently discovered a new gas field in Azerbaijan which is expected to strengthen the country's energy potential.

Newly-opened gas fields hold some 350 billion cubic meters of gas which increases Azerbaijan's gas reserves to 2.6 trillion cubic meters.

Independent legal analyst Erkin Qadirli told RFE/RL on December 22 that Azerbaijan has certain levers it can use to exert pressure on France.

"The Total company could lose its share in the gas field," he said. "France has also awarded Azerbaijani first lady [Mehriban Aliyeva] with an Order of Legion, which she could reject and give back [in order to cause negative publicity for Paris].

Azerbaijan is also a partner to the European Human Rights Convention and could use it as a tool to submit an appeal to a European Court if the [French bill on genocide denial] is enforced."

Qadirli says Azerbaijan could raise the issue of France's co-chairmanship in the OSCE Minsk Group, which is working to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, by claiming that France is showing support only to the Armenian side.

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