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Ex-CIA Pilot Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit Towers

 
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:15 am    Post subject: Ex-CIA Pilot Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit Towers Reply with quote

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A former CIA and civilian pilot has sworn an affidavit, stating that no planes flew into the Twin Towers as it would have been physically impossible.

John Lear, the son of Learjet inventor, Bill Lear, has given his expert evidence that it would have been physically impossible for Boeing 767s, like Flights AA11 and UA175 to have hit the Twin Towers on 9/11, particularly when flown by inexperienced pilots:

‘No Boeing 767 airliners hit the Twin Towers as fraudulently alleged by the government, media, NIST and its contractors’, he stated in the affidavit.

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Unlike any other form of statement, an affidavit becomes truth in law, if it is not rebutted. It will now be up to critics of the theory to present their evidence and analysis to rebut the statement point by point. If they do not – or cannot – then the US government will be obliged to admit that the account given by the 9/11 Commission is wrong.

Link: http://neonnettle.com/news/211-ex-cia-pilot-gives-sworn-testimony-that -no-planes-hit-the-twin-towers#.U0VaD6qikGk.facebook
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:41 am    Post subject: No Planes toxic BS Reply with quote

This no planes nonsense is straight from the bowels of COINTELPRO and its ilk.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:12 pm    Post subject: no thought behind No planes criticism Reply with quote

Wakeymedia

Lear's argument need to be properly refuted. For instance, what happened to the engines of the planes that hit the towers? Your response is:

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This no planes nonsense is straight from the bowels of COINTELPRO and its ilk.


this required no thoughts on your part whatsoever.

The No planers mount a very good case, at least, that the images of the 911 attacks were faked and manipulated.

But the it's all Cointelpro argument is another with no thought whatsoever behind it. For instance. What is the aim and objective of the No Planes Cointelpro? Who is it aimed at? How does it work?

The idea that millions don't consider 911 truth due to No Plane is absurd and the No Planes critics are unable to come up with significant evidence to support that.

But more important, the most significant incidents that made millions in the US think about 911 truth had nothing whatsoever with No Planes. That is, there is an absurd idea that the powers that be were so concerned with No Planes that they totally missed issues that really mattered - Charlie Sheen and Lt. Colonel Anthony Shaffer.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:41 pm    Post subject: Re: No Planes toxic BS Reply with quote

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This no planes nonsense is straight from the bowels of COINTELPRO and its ilk.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were a few video's posted in the reply section which were interesting. As this is now in 'controversies' I'll post this one up...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUoqwUVOxHE&list=PLsCtrcMNlJqTLTD_kCHs kDo2J0XaoxEJM&index=3[/url]
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi nrmis,

Outsider and myself (and other people) have discussed this at length on this thread.

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=18875

To summarize, the Ace Baker American PsyOp series is well produced, compelling and very watchable, promotes this viewpoint....
Unfortunately Ace Baker, himself, is not a compelling or particularly trustworthy person. I think the general consensus is that to disseminate 9/11 truth we should promote incontrovertible facts such as WTC7's freefall and other fact-based anomalies and then address the question: was there any planes there at all? Currently we are in MH370 territory: no physical evidence equals no real conclusion.

Similarly Lear also has some craziness associated with him from the UFO angle which rather destroys the value of his affidavit as far as public perception is concerned. It seems to be a psyop - a smear against the likes of FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds and her affidavit which confirms the collusion of CIA with Usama Bin Laden before 9/11.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nrmis wrote:
I see. Thanks.


But in summary. Airliners do not travel at 583mph at 700 feet above sea level and you can't trust any of the air crash videos of 9/11. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scienceplease 2 wrote:
nrmis wrote:
I see. Thanks.


But in summary. Airliners do not travel at 583mph at 700 feet above sea level and you can't trust any of the air crash videos of 9/11. Rolling Eyes


Yes, that seems fairly obvious after a long break and step back (that the flight physics are impossible).
I have to say that the crash physics also seem unreal now.
I think the geordie guy at the end of that vid has it pretty well summarized. (video's mostly real, plane not)
Not that it might do much good as we are not privy to the technology used so unlikely to ever be provable.
Might be interesting to see what comes of the affidavit though.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nrmis wrote:


Yes, that seems fairly obvious after a long break and step back (that the flight physics are impossible).
I have to say that the crash physics also seem unreal now.
I think the geordie guy at the end of that vid has it pretty well summarized. (video's mostly real, plane not)
Not that it might do much good as we are not privy to the technology used so unlikely to ever be provable.
Might be interesting to see what comes of the affidavit though.


I'm afraid that this story is at least two years old, so don't get your hopes up.
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/03/911-affidavit-by-john-lear-son-of. html
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