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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:06 pm    Post subject: New York City Campaign to get 9/11 on Ballot Reply with quote

I hope I will be excused for making a new thread on this, but last thread had just 96-odd hits. This is a super-mega opportunity to get this question out in the public, via the courts:

A CALL TO ACTION – FORWARD WIDELY



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July 27, 2009

9/11 FAMILIES, FIRST RESPONDERS AND SURVIVORS TO TAKE NEW YORK CITY TO COURT OVER NYC CAN PETITION

SEVENTY THOUSAND New Yorkers signed the NYC CAN petition, raising their voices in support of NYC CAN’s demand for accountability. They have chosen to place the decision to create a new 9/11 investigation – a REAL 9/11 investigation – exactly where it belongs: before the voters of New York City this November. The voices of SEVENTY THOUSAND Americans who believe in democracy and believe that government exists to serve the people – and not the other way around – have been GAGGED by ONE so-called “PUBLIC SERVANT” – The New York City Clerk – who denied the petition and the voice of the people.

Welcome to America. Democracy denied.

Did you REALLY expect those in halls of power to honor the WILL OF THE PEOPLE? Did you expect this demand for accountability to go uncontested by those who have forgotten the very meaning of the word? Perhaps this obstruction of democracy would go unchallenged in THEIR America. Not in OUR America.

9/11 family members, first responders and survivors expected nothing less than business as usual and ARE NOT HAVING IT. They are preparing to take the City of New York to court to challenge the wrongful denial of our right to decide on the creation of a new 9/11 investigation.

Friends, your determination and generosity have brought us to this crucial moment. TRUTH IS AT THE CROSSROADS, DEMOCRACY UNDER FIRE AND THE DEFINING MOMENT IN THE QUEST FOR ACCOUNTABILITY IS UPON US. This is YOUR movement and nothing may bring you closer to attaining truth than NYC CAN. Stand in the light and demand ANSWERS, not in the shadows of those who would deny you such answers.

THE BIG NEWS: the most experienced election lawyer in New York City stands ready to represent the 9/11 families, first responders and survivors in court in an HISTORIC FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY AND TRUTH. BUT WE DESPERATELY NEED YOUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. This is your chance – your ONE chance – to stand with the 9/11 families, first responders and survivors, and demand accountability. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE WORKED FOR, AND WHAT WE CAN ACHIEVE IF WE STAND TOGETHER NOW.

Donate over $25 and we’ll mail you a free NYC CAN button. Donate over $50 and you will receive a free NYC CAN button and a well-made NYC CAN t-shirt.

ACT RIGHT NOW. Go to – http://nyccan.org/donate.php – and donate whatever you can to bring the quest for answers to the biggest stage it has ever had: THE NEW YORK CITY BALLOT.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://world911truth.org/nyc-can-alert-a-call-to-action/

Sorry for the second NYC CAN message in a row, but it is very important that everyone knows about this update:

9/11 FAMILIES, FIRST RESPONDERS AND SURVIVORS TO TAKE NEW YORK CITY TO COURT OVER NYC CAN PETITION


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SEVENTY THOUSAND New Yorkers signed the NYC CAN petition, raising their voices in support of NYC CAN’s demand for accountability. They have chosen to place the decision to create a new 9/11 investigation – a REAL 9/11 investigation – exactly where it belongs: before the voters of New York City this November.


The voices of SEVENTY THOUSAND Americans who believe in democracy and believe that government exists to serve the people – and not the other way around – have been GAGGED by ONE so-called “PUBLIC SERVANT” – The New York City Clerk – who denied the petition and the voice of the people.

Welcome to America. Democracy denied.

Did you REALLY expect those in halls of power to honor the WILL OF THE PEOPLE? Did you expect this demand for accountability to go uncontested by those who have forgotten the very meaning of the word? Perhaps this obstruction of democracy would go unchallenged in THEIR America. Not in OUR America.

9/11 family members, first responders and survivors expected nothing less than business as usual and ARE NOT HAVING IT. They are preparing to take the City of New York to court to challenge the wrongful denial of our right to decide on the creation of a new 9/11 investigation.

Friends, your determination and generosity have brought us to this crucial moment. TRUTH IS AT THE CROSSROADS, DEMOCRACY UNDER FIRE AND THE DEFINING MOMENT IN THE QUEST FOR ACCOUNTABILITY IS UPON US. This is YOUR movement and nothing may bring you closer to attaining truth than NYC CAN. Stand in the light and demand ANSWERS, not in the shadows of those who would deny you such answers.

THE BIG NEWS: the most experienced election lawyer in New York City stands ready to represent the 9/11 families, first responders and survivors in court in an HISTORIC FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY AND TRUTH. BUT WE DESPERATELY NEED YOUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. This is your chance – your ONE chance – to stand with the 9/11 families, first responders and survivors, and demand accountability. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE WORKED FOR, AND WHAT WE CAN ACHIEVE IF WE STAND TOGETHER NOW.

Donate over $25 and we’ll mail you a free NYC CAN button. Donate over $50 and you will receive a free NYC CAN button and a well-made NYC CAN t-shirt.

ACT RIGHT NOW. Go to – http://nyccan.org/donate.php – and donate whatever you can to bring the quest for answers to the biggest stage it has ever had: THE NEW YORK CITY BALLOT.


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Ok so what can we do? We can certainly support NYC CAN financially, this is an important battle and they need all the financial help we can provide them with.

Some other things you can do:

1. Spread this news widely, send the link to this article to everyone you know. People need to know about it. The media need to talk about it.

2. Call or email the New York City council. Ask them to accept the petition despite the city clerk’s decision. The members are listed here: http://council.nyc.gov/html/members/members.shtml

3. Stay informed. Join the NYC CAN newsletter list and our newsletter and we will keep you updated.

4. If you live in NYC, make sure to sign the petition.

Whatever you do, even if it’s a 15 minutes effort, please do something.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the glitch - I sent wrong link, in fact I can't actually find a link, but I've amended my original post with correct info.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This does appear to be excellent news. I may be mistaken but is NYCCAN just wanting to get answers to the questions the 911 families never got answered in the official 911 report? These of course will not include more recent and more devastating evidence like thermite.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fish5133 wrote:
This does appear to be excellent news. I may be mistaken but is NYCCAN just wanting to get answers to the questions the 911 families never got answered in the official 911 report? These of course will not include more recent and more devastating evidence like thermite.


The investigation would have subpoena powers, and though I don't know what questions would be asked, I can see no reason why they would be restricted to relatives and survivors original questions.

I urge everyone who can to support this very important initiative.
ZELIKOW(Sp!) WILL NOT CONTROL THIS ONE!
DUST OFF THE GUILLOTINE, MES AMIS!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the latest news I received by email today:

NYC CAN News Bulletin - FORWARD WIDELY
July 31, 2009

9/11 Family Members, and Survivor File for Re-validation of Citizens’ Signatures with New York State Supreme Court, following rejection of NYC CAN petition by the City Clerk and Board of Elections

New York City– On Wednesday, several 9/11 victim family members and a survivor took the first step in challenging the City Clerk’s rejection of the NYC CAN petition for a new investigation in New York City. The group filed a Verified Petition/Order to Show Cause with the Supreme Court of the State of New York requesting a review of Board of Election documentation and a ‘special referee’ appointed to re-validate the over 52,000 signatures filed by NYC CAN on June 24th.

The NYC CAN petition was rejected by the City Clerk on Friday, July 24th, a week ago, certifying less than the minimum of 30,000 qualified signatures of electors. This benchmark, according to the Clerk’s office was not met. A ‘qualified elector’ is a registered New York City voter who was eligible to vote in the last election. According to the letter sent by the Clerk to the City Council, the NY Board of Elections validated 26,003 signatures and invalidated 24,664, leaving 1,333 that were not certified.

At a hearing scheduled for Monday, August 3rd, before a Supreme Court Justice, the plaintiffs, representing tens of thousands of concerned New Yorkers who support a new 9/11 investigation, will formally raise their request for an independent review of the Board of Elections findings. If granted by the presiding Justice, a re-validation of the petition signatures by an independent special referee will follow.

In addition to the requirement to reach the threshold of 30,000 qualified electors, the petition itself must comply with New York Municipal Home Rule Law and relevant Election Laws. The City Clerk maintains the Petition fell short in several areas but it should be emphasized that this is the legal opinion of the Corporation Counsel, the City of New York’s top lawyer, and will be challenged in court by lawyers for the five plaintiffs.

Legal advisors to the plaintiffs believe that the legal objections raised by the Corporation Counsel are specious and should be set aside, however considering the political implications and official opposition to the proposed Commission, obtaining approval for placing the referendum question on the ballet itself will be fraught with difficulty and challenge each step of the way.

The fact is historically in New York City, ballot initiatives have not been successful. The last two were denied by the City Clerk. In both cases the petitioners filed a suit and ultimately lost and thus NYC CAN anticipated the response of the Clerk. And though the odds are stacked against us, we are committed to take the next steps available to us.

Regardless of the outcome, the court case will serve to amplify the demand for a new 9/11 investigation and with lessons learned, should serve to strengthen the ability of the people to petition their government for meaningful referendums in the future.

Please donate to this historic court case now: Go to – http://nyccan.org/donate.php

NYC CAN is non-partisan organization comprised of 9/11 Families, First Responders, Survivors and proud, concerned citizens committed to bringing about an independent, impartial investigation into the events of September 11. For more info: http://www.nyccan.org

ONCE AGAIN, I STRONGLY URGE ALL 9/11 TRUTH CAMPAIGNERS TO SUPPORT THIS CASE FINANCIALLY.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest NYCCAN news:

NYC CAN News Bulletin - FORWARD WIDELY
August 4, 2009

NYC CAN is asking for volunteers over the next two weeks to help review the signatures invalidated by the City Clerk and Board of Elections. If you will be available at least three whole business days between August 10 and August 21 and you live in or near New York City, please email your name, schedule of availability and phone number to volunteer@nyccan.org, and please put VOLUNTEER in the subject field. NYC CAN will provide lunch!


NY Supreme Court Appoints Referee to Oversee Revalidation of Rejected Signatures

New York City– Monday, the New York Supreme Court appointed an independent referee to oversee a line-by-line review of the NYC CAN petition signatures that were declared invalid by the New York City Clerk and Board of Elections. Chris Burke, a petitioner in the lawsuit filed against the City of New York, joined by Dennis P. McMahon, a volunteer attorney assisting the petitioners and NYC CAN at this stage of the process, appeared before Supreme Court Justice Edward H. Lehner who issued the ruling in accordance with the petitioners' request.

A hearing is scheduled for Thursday August 6 to set a schedule and outline logistics of the signature re-count and review process. NYC CAN will assemble staff to review each of 24,664 signatures against an April 2009 Board of Elections database of registered voters. All disputed signatures will be assembled into a Bill of Particulars and presented to the referee for review.

The review is the next step in challenging the City Clerk’s rejection of the NYC CAN petition for a new investigation in New York City and comes after the group filed a Verified Petition/Order to Show Cause with the Supreme Court of the State of New York last week. 52,000 signatures were filed <http://www.nyccan.org/nyccanfilespetition.php> with the City Clerk’s office by NYC CAN on June 24th.

The NYC CAN petition was rejected by the City Clerk on Friday, July 24th, who certified 26,003 signatures—3,997 shy of the minimum of 30,000 qualified signatures of electors, the benchmark prescribed in the applicable Home Rule Law.

If the threshold of 30,000 qualified electors is reached as a result of the recount, lawyers for the petitioners and the City will argue the fine points of the Home Rule Law and Election Law in a later proceeding. Both sides are confident that their respective but contrary positions regarding the legality of this unprecedented matter will be upheld. If the court rules in favor of the petitioners and validates the Petition, the City Council is compelled to take up the question. If the initiative is rejected by the Council NYC CAN will submit another 15,000 qualified signatures to move the question directly to the voters in November.

In the meantime NYC CAN is actively lobbying members of the City Council who despite the City Clerk's ruling can work with the petition toward establishing a new investigation into September 11th attacks. Each member of City Council will be presented with a copy of a documentary film, 9/11 Press for Truth <http://www.911pressfortruth.com>, which tells the story of the 9/11 family members who were betrayed by the 9/11 Commission in its failure to answer most of the questions posed by the 9/11 families. NYC CAN calls upon its supporters to continue the flood of phone calls City Council has seen over the past two weeks.

FUNDRAISING FOR LEGAL DEFENSE FUND

Since Monday, July 27, we have raised over $20,000, thanks to your generosity and determination. This is enough to get us started, but the process promises to be long and difficult, and we will need more.

With proceedings under way, we have our foot in the door. Let's see to it we don't fall short at this crucial moment.

Please donate now: http://nyccan.org/donate.php


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First day of scrutiny, and multiple official mistakes found!!:

NYC CAN News Bulletin - FORWARD WIDELY
August 10, 2009

Today we began the signature review, and with much promise! The first step: to do a recount of the signatures the Board of Elections did validate. And, after counting only 5 out of 52 volumes, we have found the Board of Elections reported 229 signatures fewer than what they actually validated inside the volumes. If their count continues to be off at the same rate, we will gain some 2,300 signatures - SIMPLY BY RECOUNTING THE ONES THAT WERE ALREADY VALIDATED. And we have already identified one petitioner who collected hundreds of signatures and was wrongly invalidated, along with all the signatures he gathered! And there are thousands of invalidated signatures ripe for challenging because the signer is on the voter roll but put their wrong address - these signatures will also be deemed valid if the signature on the petition matches the signature on their voter registration form.

In short, we have every reason to be optimistic that we will eclipse the 30,000 requirement, and that we will have our day in court to argue our right to establish a new commission to investigate 9/11.

We need help. We have 9 more business days to finish our review, and we have no more than 8 volunteers signed up to help on any day. We can use 20 volunteers per day, and we will need that many to get the job done. If you live in or around NYC, please give just one or two business days between now and next Friday, August 21. Whether you can give one day or five days, please email us at volunteer@nyccan.org with your name, phone number and schedule of availability, and please put VOLUNTEER in the subject field. Come get a free lunch and be part of this historic recount!

The last month has seen some very positive coverage, and it will grow after we prove valid the thousands of signatures wrongly invalidated by the City Clerk and Board of Elections. If you haven't read this great coverage, take a look! Below the headlines is our most recent press release, which should also give you a much clearer picture of what is going on legally.

And, we are in negotiations with an outstanding election lawyer to represent us in court after we eclipse the 30,000 requirement. We will update you as soon as the agreement is finalized.

Together we are making history. Thank you!

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A Star Ledger Reporter, August 9: http://blog.nj.com/njv_bob_braun/2009/08/911_survivors_call_for_renewe d.html

The Villager, July 28 - August 4: http://blog.nj.com/njv_bob_braun/2009/08/911_survivors_call_for_renewe d.html

The New York Post, July 14: http://www.nypost.com/seven/07142009/news/regionalnews/kin_eye_9_11_pa nel_179145.htm
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New York Supreme Court Orders Review of 24,000 Petition Signatures Invalidated by New York City Clerk; Petition Calls for Local Commission to Investigate 9/11



New York City – This week a New York Supreme Court referee ordered a line-by-line review of petition signatures that were declared invalid by the New York City Clerk and Board of Elections. The review is the next step in challenging the City Clerk’s rejection of the NYC CAN petition for a local independent commission to investigate 9/11 and comes after the group filed a Verified Petition/Order to Show Cause with the Supreme Court on July 29. NYC CAN originally filed the petition containing 52,000 signatures at the City Clerk’s office on June 24.



At a meeting on Thursday the Referee allotted an initial two-week period from August 10 to August 24 for the signature recount and review process. NYC CAN has assembled a staff to begin recounting the already validated signatures and reviewing each of the 24,664 invalidated signatures against an April 2009 Board of Elections database of registered voters. All disputed signatures will be made part of a Bill of Particulars and presented to the referee for review.




The NYC CAN petition was rejected by the City Clerk on Friday, July 24, who validated 26,003 signatures – 3,997 shy of the benchmark minimum of 30,000 signatures of qualified voters prescribed in the applicable Home Rule Law.



If the threshold of 30,000 qualified electors is reached as a result of the recount, lawyers for the petitioners and the City will argue the fine points of the Home Rule Law and Election Law in a later proceeding. If the courts rule in favor of the petitioners and validates the Petition, the City Council is compelled to vote on whether to put the referendum before the voters this November. If the Council votes against it, the Home Rule Law allows NYC CAN to submit another 15,000 signatures to move the question directly to the voters in November.



Paralleling the recount, NYC CAN is actively lobbying members of the City Council who can of their own volition independently work with the petition to establish the proposed independent commission. Each member of City Council will be presented with a copy of a documentary film, 9/11 Press for Truth, which tells the story of the 9/11 family members who were betrayed by the 9/11 Commission in its failure to answer most of the questions posed by the 9/11 families. NYC CAN is calling upon its supporters to continue the flood of phone calls City Council has seen over the past two weeks.



“One day our elected officials will have to accept it is our right – not a privilege – to get a real investigation into the death of our loved ones”, said Donna Marsh O’Connor, mother of Vanessa Lang Langer, who died on September 11th.




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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest NYCCAN News:

NYC CAN News Bulletin - FORWARD WIDELY
August 24, 2009

SILENCING OF NYC VOTERS WILL NOT GO UNCHALLENGED



On Monday, August 10, NYC CAN began a comprehensive review of the nearly 26,000 signatures invalidated by the New York City Board of Elections and City Clerk. With 26,003 signatures accepted as valid by the City, at least 3,997 additional signatures were needed to exceed the threshold of 30,000 signatures. 10 days, 50 volunteers and 1,000 man-hours later, we are thrilled to report we have so far discovered 6,924 signatures we will argue were wrongly invalidated.

In addition, the Court has granted an extension allowing us to complete our review of 6 unfinished volumes. We anticipate having well over 7,000 additional valid signatures once the review is complete. The 50+ individuals who helped conduct the review take great pride in knowing their work has stopped the silencing of 7,000 New York City voters and allowed their voices to be heard.

On Friday, August 28, we must serve a Bill of Particulars listing all signatures we argue should be deemed valid by the Court. Special Referee Louis Crespo will begin a line-by-line review of the disputed signatures on Tuesday, September 8, and is scheduled to complete his review by Friday, September 18.



Pending the outcome of the Court’s review of the disputed signatures, lawyers for NYC CAN and the City will begin arguing the legality of the petition’s proposed amendment to the City Charter.

Looking ahead, NYC CAN will submit an additional 28,000 signatures on September 3 to satisfy the requirement of 15,000 valid signatures needed to override the City Council’s failure to act on the petition. The 60-day period for the City Council to approve the referendum’s placement on the ballot ended today, August 24, 2009. If NYC CAN wins in court, the submission of 15,000 more valid signatures will guarantee the referendum’s placement on the ballot.



Legal proceedings are expected to last through the month of September, by which time a favorable determination from the Court is needed in order for the referendum to be placed on this November’s ballot. Over the last 25 years six ballot initiatives have been attempted in New York City. Only one has made it on the ballot: the 1993 initiative to limit New York City elected officials to two terms in office, whose supporters also had to go to court to prove the initiative legal before passage by the voters, and which was nevertheless undone by the City Council last year. We will battle against all odds to see that the initiative to establish a critically needed reinvestigation of 9/11 does not suffer the same fate as past ballot initiatives.



NYC CAN now calls upon its thousands of members and millions aware of the egregious inadequacy of the 9/11 Commission Report to help ensure our fight for a real investigation does not go unnoticed by the larger public. Nearly 80,000 New Yorkers have put pen to paper to call for the right of all New Yorkers to vote an impartial, independent investigation into existence. This momentous step forward in the quest for truth about September 11th will be looked upon with admiration across the globe. Through the ages those who have fought for justice did not win by backing down when their government said no. We will continue this fight and future efforts with the same determination that has gotten us to where we stand today.

www.NYCCAN.org


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Message from David Ray Griffin:
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Dear Fellow Advocates for 9/11 Truth,

For nearly eight long years, the 9/11 Truth Movement has been seeking to discover and publicize the truth behind the events of September 11, 2001. Although the obstacles have been formidable, more than enough has been discovered to show the official story to be false, and the awareness of this fact, polls show, has been spread over much of the planet.

The time is now ripe to convert this awareness into tangible, political results.

Today, our best opportunity to take this step forward is represented in the efforts of NYC CAN (the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now). It has been working long and hard to get a referendum on the NYC ballot to authorize the City's own investigation into 9/11. A petition to put such a referendum on the ballot must be supported by 30,000 valid signatures.

On June 24, 2008, NYC CAN submitted a petition with 52,000 signatures. The 22,000 extra signatures were to provide a comfortable cushion in case some of them were deemed invalid.

Last week, however, the city clerk validated only 26,003 of them (calling 24,664 invalid and leaving 1,333 undetermined). This left NYC CAN 3,997 signatures short of what is needed to put the petition before the City Council.

Having anticipated that this would happen---that no matter how many signatures it submitted, the city clerk would declare a sufficient number of them invalid to prevent the 30,000 number from being reached---NYC CAN was prepared to go to court, if necessary.

NYC CAN will go to court this Monday, August 3, for its first hearing. But its formal plaintiffs---four 9/11 family members and one survivor---are proceeding without the aid of an experienced election lawyer.

It is essential that, as soon as possible after this first hearing, NYC CAN is able to enlist NYC's most experienced lawyer on referendums.

The good news here is that NYC CAN, I am told, has already raised almost enough to hire this lawyer. But several thousand dollars more are still needed.

Please consider donating right away to NYC CAN’s legal defense fund (http://nyccan.org/donate.php).

With outstanding legal representation, NYC CAN and its plaintiffs may be able to win, which would mean that on November 3, the voters of New York City would have the opportunity to vote for a new 9/11 investigation. And we know from polls that, if New Yorkers are given this chance, they almost certainly will vote for it.

This will mean that we will finally have that for which so many of us have worked so hard: a truly independent investigation with subpoena power.

So I would encourage everyone to donate what they can to NYC CAN, which has done such heroic work and deserves our support (http://nyccan.org/donate.php).

-David Ray Griffin



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Second 9/11 Investigation Petition Moves Toward NYC November Ballot

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By Barbara G. Ellis for Portland 9/11 Legislative Alliance, Thursday, Aug. 20

A second 9/11 investigation about the destruction of the World Trade Center and attack on the Pentagon—this one independent of the U.S. government—may start late this year if legal debris is cleared away for approval as a referendum issue on November 3 in New York City.

The debris involves settling the credibility of 52,000 signatures on a petition for a new probe that were gathered over an 18-month period by canvassers for a Manhattan group—NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative—replaced last year by the NYC CAN organization.

To qualify for a special election, New York City requires 30,000 petition signatures. The volunteers met that requirement on the June 24 filing deadline, holding back 22,000 extra signatures in case the City Clerk’s office ruled some signatures were invalid.

On July 24, the Clerk rejected the petition, chiefly on grounds that 3997 signatures of the 30,000 were invalid. In addition, the Clerk indicated the petition’s language was not in compliance with New York’s Municipal Home Rule law and other election laws. That set off the group’s immediate filing of as how-cause challenge to the Clerk’s rejection.

New York Supreme Court’s Justice Edward H. Lehner issued a ruling August 3 permitting the challenge and appointed an independent referee to oversee a review of signatures the Clerk’s office rejected. The subsequent August 6 hearing involved drawing up a review schedule and procedures for signature recount and review.

The NYC CAN volunteers are now checking each signature against the city’s database of registered voters. They will then put the disputed 3997 signatures into a Bill of Particulars for the referee to review.

If the 30,000 signatures are declared valid, attorneys for the city and NYC CAN then will argue questions regarding the petition’s language. If the court validates the petition, the City Council must rule on whether to permit the November referendum.

If members reject that election, NYC CAN has an additional 15,000 signatures—it now has reached more than 70,000—that its leaders are confident will override a rejection and move the issue to the November election.

The city’s last two ballot initiatives on other issues failed. The City Clerk rejected the petitions and though the petitioners also filed an action, the court ruled against it. The group’s view is that a 9/11 investigation by a 25-member commission is a departure from other ballot measures, however. That they have collected more than 70,000 signatures of residents is a harbinger of how New Yorkers will vote on a new investigation.

Its spokesperson outlined the procedures following a successful referendum. First would be the appointment of 15 commissioners from a non-partisan pool who would be independent of government control. Its initial list of eight commissioners include former Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee from Rhode Island, television actor and activist Ed Asner, Jersey Girl Lorie Van Auken, Martin Luther King attorney and biographer Dr. William Pepper, Native-American activist Splitting the Sky, the activist Catholic bishop the Rt. Rev. Thomas Gumbleton of Detroit, and Executive Director of the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation Ralph Schoenman. Plans call for other commissioners drawn from the science and engineering fields, according to Executive Director Ted Walter.

The commission would have subpoena powers extending to all governmental agencies, and if defied, would use federal courts to attain enforcement orders. It will publish reports and, where necessary, seek indictments because the aim is to achieve justice for 9/11 events. Funding will be independent from governmental influence, the spokesperson said, yet donors will not be able to exert influence either over the investigation or the commission’s conclusions.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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NYC CAN News Bulletin - FORWARD WIDELY
September 8, 2009

NYC CAN Submits 28,000 More Signatures To Get Referendum for
9/11 Investigation on the November Ballot


On Friday, September 4, the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now (NYC CAN) submitted 28,000 petition signatures as a supplement to the 52,000 signatures submitted on June 24 calling for a citywide referendum on the creation of a local, independent commission to investigate 9/11.

Over the last 25 years, every ballot initiative in New York City has been blocked on grounds of legal technicality, with the exception of the 1993 initiative to establish term limits for NYC elected officials, whose supporters also had to go to court to prove the initiative legal. With 80,000 New Yorkers having signed this petition, the City’s ongoing attempt to stop this referendum from going on the ballot is yet another blatant affront to the democratic ideals upon which this great nation was founded.

On July 24, the NYC City Clerk reported to the City Council that only 26,003 signatures from the submission of 52,000 signatures were valid. In response, NYC CAN filed suit and on Thursday, August 27 submitted a Bill of Particulars cataloguing 7,166 additional signatures that NYC CAN contends should be deemed valid.

The court-appointed referee will begin a line-by-line review of the disputed signatures on Wednesday, September 9, and is scheduled to complete the review by Friday, September 18. If the referee and court accept at least 3,996 of the disputed signatures as valid – meeting the requisite number of 30,000 signatures – and if 15,000 of the 28,000 signatures from the September 4 submission are deemed valid, the only remaining hurdle to getting the referendum on the ballot will be the ongoing court case over the legality of the petition.

The timetable for addressing the petition’s legality will be set in a meeting on Thursday September 10. The schedule should allow time for an appeal from either side in order to guarantee a final determination by the end of the month.

Once the schedule for the court case is set, NYC CAN will announce one or more rallies and events in the second half of September to demonstrate the tremendous public support that exists for a new, impartial investigation. NYC CAN calls upon all those who can be in lower Manhattan to join in solidarity with the 9/11 families, first responders, survivors and 80,000 New Yorkers to say loud and clear: no longer will we tolerate a government that ignores the will of its people. For the 3,000 who died on that day, the hundreds who have died since, and those still suffering today, 9/11 must be properly investigated.

The Bill of Particulars was assembled with the help of 50+ volunteers who gave more than 1,000 hours over a two-week period. On behalf of the petition’s 80,000 signatories, NYC CAN offers its deepest thanks to these volunteers who worked long and hard to prevent the voters New York City from being silenced by their government.


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Latest NYCCAN news: NY City authorities concede 30,000 valid signatures:

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September 10, 2009

City of New York Concedes 9/11 Coalition Has 30,000 Valid Signatures To Put Referendum For 9/11 Investigation on November Ballot



New York – In a last minute decision, lawyers for the City of New York have conceded that the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now (NYC CAN), a group comprising 9/11 family members, first responders and survivors, indeed did submit over 30,000 valid signatures to put the referendum for a new 9/11 investigation before the voters of New York City this November.

In an earlier letter from the City Clerk dated July 24, 2009, the City had claimed only 26,003 signatures were valid, 3,997 short of the requisite 30,000. The City’s concession that over 30,000 of the 52,000 signatures submitted were in fact valid paves the way for lawyers from both sides to argue the legality of petition.

Asked whether he thought NYC CAN could overcome the City’s challenge to the legality of the petition, legal counsel to the petitioners, Dennis McMahon, said, “Absolutely. Although the City has an incredibly successful record of shooting down ballot initiatives, we will be arguing from a fresh perspective that reflects the unprecedented events of 9/11. We believe the courts will see how critical an issue this is, and be persuaded with our legal reasoning and point of view.” A final determination on the legality of the petition will be reached in time for the referendum to be included on the November ballot should the petitioners prevail.

Representatives for NYC CAN, 9/11 family member Manny Badillo and Executive Director Ted Walter, arrived at the Board of Elections on the morning of Wednesday, September 9, to assist the court-appointed referee in commencing a line-by-line review of the disputed signatures, only to learn the referee’s review had been called off due to a last minute concession by the City. Mr. Badillo immediately got on the phone to inform others of the news.

“The City conceded we have 30,000 valid signatures. Big victory.”

The City’s concession comes as a result of the immense effort put forth by 50+ volunteers who gave more than 1,000 hours over a two week period from August 10 to August 25 to identify a total of 7,166 signatures that were wrongly invalidated by the NYC City Clerk and Board of Elections. On August 27, NYC CAN filed the 631-page Bill of Particulars cataloguing each of the 7,166 signatures it contended were in fact valid. NYC CAN submitted another 28,000 signatures on September 4 to guarantee the referendum will go on the ballot if they win the court case, bringing the total signatures submitted to 80,000.





631-page Bill of Particulars Filed on August 27


NYC CAN must deliver its memorandum of law in response to the City’s motion for summary judgment by Monday, September 21. The City will be given an opportunity to reply before the referee’s decision is made on Monday September 28. Fast-track appeals will likely follow no matter who wins. A final decision will have to be made by September 30.

If the referendum passes in November, it would lead to the creation of a local, independent commission with subpoena power that would be tasked with comprehensively reinvestigating the attacks.


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Latest NYCCAN news:

Announcing:

NYC CAN's Historic

MARCH FOR ANSWERS

Sunday September 27 at 2pm

From Battery Park to City Hall
via Ground Zero, The City Clerk and The State Supreme Court

Speakers Include:
Bob McIlvaine - 9/11 Family Member

Manny Badillo - 9/11 Family Member

Daniel Sunjata - Star of "Rescue Me"


Other Speakers TBA







80,000 New Yorkers have signed the petition. As with every other NYC ballot initiative, the City of New York is denying the will of its people to vote on the issues it considers most important.

NYC CAN responded by filing suit, and on September 9 the City conceded NYC CAN did in fact submit enough valid signatures to put the referendum before the voters. Now NYC CAN is battling to prove the petition is legally valid. On September 28, the referee will report on the petition's legality, and a final determination will be made in the days that follow.


On the eve of the referee's decision, let us take to the streets in the THOUSANDS on behalf of the families, first responders and survivors of September 11th and the 80,000 New Yorkers who signed the petition. As the climate ripens and public opinion continues to swing in favor of a new investigation, this is our opportunity to send a message like never before. If we stand together, we can make history.

September 27. 2pm. Battery Park.

Please help promote this event. Post the flier on your website. If you have a radio show please contact info@nyccan.org to have an NYC CAN representative on the show. If you can volunteer to hand out fliers starting Saturday, September 19, please email volunteer@nyccan.org and put VOLUNTEER in the subject line. For fliers to print out and distribute on your own, go to nyccan.org.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

9/11 sites in the States should be going into mega-overdrive on the NY March, but have they? Though I don't have time to search the US sites, I haven't come across much, except Alex Jones and Kevin Barrett.


9/11 Widow Jane Pollicino Speaks About Getting Involved With NYC CAN

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1 Day Until The Historic

MARCH FOR ANSWERS

September 27, 2009 2pm Battery Park (State Street) to City Hall


List of Speakers:

Bob McIlvaine - 9/11 Family Member
Manny Badillo - 9/11 Family Member
Daniel Sunjata - Star of FOX's "Rescue Me"
Eileen Coles - 9/11 Survivor and Whistleblower

Major Mike McCormack - 9/11 First Responder
Mark Crispin Miller - Professor of Media Studies at NYU

*Live Feed of March Likely! Check Website Before March!

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Breaking News: Court Referee Recommends Ruling in Favor of City;
NYC CAN To File Motion To Reject Referee's Recommendation


Rather than waiting until the scheduled decision date of Monday, September 28, Referee Louis Crespo issued his "report and recommendations" on Friday, September 25, and recommended that the Court rule in favor of the City.

After reviewing the referee's report, we feel he did not give adequate consideration to the extensive arguments presented in our memorandum of law submitted on Monday, September 21. The report seemed more a cut and paste from the City's original motion papers than a balanced weighing of the arguments. In particular, the referee's report failed to analyze the vast majority of NYC CAN's legal points as to why the City's claims were unfounded and its reliance on certain case law wholly inapplicable.

Officially, Judge Lehner has up to 60 days to either adopt, modify, or reject the referee's report and recommendation, and render a decision. However, with the deadline for inclusion on the ballot fast approaching, NYC CAN lawyers will bring a motion on Monday, September 28 to ask the Court to reconsider the matter immediately, and render a judgment in favor of the Petitioners. We anticipate that the matter will be heard and decided on Tuesday, September 29, or Wednesday, September 30.

Judge Lehner may decide the case on the paperwork submitted, or hear oral arguments as well. If oral arguments are ordered, the proceeding should be open to the public. If so, we will ask everyone who can to attend and help maintain the tidal wave of support that will crescendo with the March For Answers on Sunday.

Only in fighting to the very end will the voices of 80,000 New Yorkers resonate across the country, and those who are still asleep awaken to the mockery of justice in a local government claiming it has no jurisdiction over thousands of its residents being murdered.

The 9/11 Commission Report - a disgrace to any society that considers itself just, democratic and transparent; and a shameless affront to those who died on September 11th - is on its last legs.

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9/11 sites in the States should be going into mega-overdrive on the NY March, but have they? Though I don't have time to search the US sites, I haven't come across much, except Alex Jones and Kevin Barrett.


So what is the plan if the judge sides with the petitioners?

Based on his initial comments (re. WTC7 and that NYC has never investigated 9/11) I think there is a slim chance it might just happen.

Should we go crazy on a standard press release to all national and local media?

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its a chance for USA to show there is still some democracy left in its country. Problem is there is still a reliance on the judicial system and thats where a lot of nobbling goes on. It would be very interesting to find out who tries to block it. cui bono and all that.

Its almost becoming a Martin Luther King dream. I had a dream that the truth of 911 swept through this once great nation turning swords into ploughshares.
can you imagine the global effect that US finding out and admitting it was an inside job, would have

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October 9, 2009



Yesterday afternoon, Justice Edward Lehner of the State Supreme Court rubberstamped Referee Louis Crespo’s recommendation that the decision to establish a local commission to investigate the events of September 11th not be put before the voters on November 3rd.

After showing interest in weighing both sides’ arguments in the hearing, the Judge’s short decision gives no indication of having considered the arguments put forth in the Petitioners’ memorandum of law, nor any acknowledgement of the need for a new investigation, which the City of New York callously dismissed as “irrelevant”.

On a dark day for democracy, the patriotic call for answers by hundreds of 9/11 families, first responders and survivors has been stifled, and the will of the people of New York City once again denied.

Judge Lehner ruled that modifying the petition to make it “legally permissible” would result in it being “inconsistent with the law sought by the signatories of the Petition” despite the fact that all 80,000 signatories agreed by signing the Petition that “If any provision of this law is held to be unconstitutional or invalid for any reason, the remaining provisions shall be in no manner affected thereby but shall remain in full force and effect.”

The deadline for inclusion on the ballot falls just before the election, making it possible to appeal Judge Lehner’s decision. NYC CAN is weighing all options and will make an announcement early next week on this issue, as well as on how it will be moving forward on other fronts. Regardless of the outcome in court, the quest for answers continues full throttle. This fight is only the beginning.



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Not suggesting these 2 people are corrupt but is it as simple as that? Do the PTB only need to nobble 2 people to get there own way?

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Yesterday afternoon, Justice Edward Lehner of the State Supreme Court rubberstamped Referee Louis Crespo’s recommendation that the decision to establish a local commission to investigate the events of September 11th not be put before the voters on November 3rd.


Not suggesting these 2 people are corrupt but is it as simple as that? Do the PTB only need to nobble 2 people to get there own way?


Not insinuating whatsoever the Satan might be evil, but I would gently suggest it. I also gently suggest that 'It's' (can't really justify 'his') agenda is centralisation, 'pyramid', power by 'It' through poxy (sorry, 'proxy' agents who have sold their souls? So needing to nobble two is a setback for 'Old Nick'; 'It' must be kicking 'Itself'.

Our old friend Bliar (welcomed with open arms into the Catholic Faith (but then again, of course, JPII did manage to personally give 'Holy Communion' to General Benny Murdani (architect of Indonesia's barbaric invasion and subsequent 24-year occupation of East Timor) on his 1989 visit to Indonesia and East Timor) managed to 'snow' a 'New Labour' ('nuff said) Parliament into Iraq invasion.
I don't see the problem. The 'Perfect Ashlars' shall indeed inherit Hell.

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NYCCAN have given up trying to get 9/11 Inquiry put onto NY ballot:

The Turning Point

October 16, 2009


In the fall of 2008, the NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative realized that both strategy and tone were moving its effort no closer to broadening its support. Facing a wary, apathetic public and a stalled momentum, leadership was replaced, strategy was revamped and its mission rebranded.

Launched in early 2009 as NYC CAN, the new organization proceeded to effectively engage voters in a rational dialogue concerning the unanswered questions surrounding 9/11 and the best interests of our country. Our vehicle for engagement was a public referendum to create a real, independent, evidence-driven investigation into those questions that remain, eight years later, unaddressed.

That revamped strategy – focused and methodical, free of divisive rhetoric, ill-advised conjecture and alienating political judgments – succeeded in garnering the support of 80,000 NYC voters, over one-hundred 9/11 family members, dozens of first responders and survivors and leading 9/11 family advocates including ‘Jersey Girls’ Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg and Patty Casazza as well as Bill Doyle, Monica Gabrielle and others.

NYC CAN also received backing from the most trusted leaders in the 9/11 truth movement, including David Ray Griffin, Richard Gage, Kevin Ryan, Steven Jones and Niels Harrit; and the endorsement of respected whistleblowers Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer and FBI Special Agent Coleen Rowley, TIME’s 2002 Person of the Year.

Universally positive coverage on a cross-section of media platforms including the Baltimore Chronicle, the Newark Star-Ledger, the Villager, and even the New York Post; online outlets like the Examiner and Raw Story; and on-air interviews with France 24, Russia Today, Talk Radio Europe, NPR and Air America all brought our case directly to the voti ng public.

In unprecedented fashion, the community dedicated to the pursuit of answers demonstrated its dedication to what works by funding what works. Their financial assistance came not through a handful of large donations but in the form of thousands of smaller, affordable donations from across this country and around the world. This outpouring of generosity paved the way to where we stand today and we thank you all.

NYC CAN’s campaign was carefully orchestrated to engage voter support by presenting incontrovertible discrepancies to combat skepticism and create reasonable doubt. We countered objection with fact instead of theory, allowing individual deductive reasoning to poke its own holes in the 9/11 Commission’s story. By doing so we persuaded 80,000 New York City voters to listen, think and act.

Therein lies the template for success in reaching our universal goal.

Lessons Learned

That success, however, will not manifest itself as the referendum we envisioned on the ballot in NYC on November 3rd. In the process of our petition drive and court challenges, we learned the hard way that public referendums are not the vehicle by which to navigate the byzantine rules that govern the corrupt landscape of New York politics.

Midway through our petition drive we, along with our fellow New Yorkers, who twice voted to limit city officials to two terms, watched in disbelief as our own elected representatives, those to whom these term limits would apply, overturned the will of the people in a naked grasp for power.

Emboldened by this successful slap down of democracy, the City of New York and the State Supreme Court denied the will of 80,000 voters to place NYC CAN’s referendum on November’s ballot. In doing so, the City’s Corporation Counsel – while forced to acknowledge in open court that no investigation into 9/11 of any kind, criminal or otherwise, had ever been conducted by the City of New York – labeled the will of the people “irrelevant”.

A lone Supreme Court Justice, while demonstrating no comprehension or interest in the fundamental aspects of the events of 9/11 or the basis of our case – not to mention justice or truth – sided with the will of the City over the will of the people whose interests he is sworn to protect.

While the petition had its flaws, it was secure enough to be implemented if the City and the Supreme Court were so inclined. It took the petition and legal processes to realize that the current City administration will stop at nothing to keep 9/11 in the rear view mirror. Our best and current expert legal advice indicates that no petition of this kind, however framed, can ever be assured success in New York City. Hence, no more time, energy, or money will be spent on this court action or a new petition effort.

Those who wield political power will be swayed neither by rational dialogue nor the best interests of those they are meant to serve, as their motivation to act is based upon that which it always has – an insulating propagation of self-interest. Only by winning the hearts and minds of the people will our voice be heard in the halls of power that govern this country. Only when that voice echoes our message will it reverberate through those halls too loudly to be ignored. Only when the people wield the threat of their vote will those in power be forced to act.

It is to the people we must make our appeal. Only then will we succeed.

Lessons learned? With the experience gained in persuading 80,000 NYC voters to act, the strategy that will work has become ever more clear: a national public relations campaign to persuade the American public to rethink the bill of goods they were sold and now accept as bible truth. Public relations is a time-tested strategy that has been embraced across the board and through the ages; this proven methodology has been utilized to the advantage of the most progressive elements of society and embedded in the core strategy of every corporation in America. Why?

Because it works.

There is one question we must ask ourselves at this turning point for a movement unquestionably marginalized and discredited, surely by outside forces opposed to any further investigation, but also by its own hesitance to honestly assess what is not working and alter its course. This issue, like the questions to which we all seek answers, remains unaddressed but can no longer be ignored.

What holds our movement back from embracing what works?

Certainly those who give of their time, their talents and their energy to further this pursuit of answers do so with the very best intentions. Best intentions, in light of the progress we clearly have not made, are no longer good enough. Individual agendas, splintered strategies, unfocused action and information overload all play into our detractors’ hands and contribute to the lack of direction that leaves our movement marginalized, our voice muted and our goals unmet.

Our hearts are in the right place; when our message and delivery is, we will capture the hearts and minds of America. We will never silence those who would silence us; we can, however, drown those voices in public outcry if we commit to a voice that America will not only listen to but also hear.

A Multi-Tiered Strategy

The secret to success for nonprofits and social activists lay in the ability to employ the business marketing tools that have proven effective in promoting social agenda and persuading the general public, without whose support such efforts rarely succeed.

Perhaps it is time to acknowledge (and abandon) methodologies that keep our movement marginalized – radical rhetoric, vitriolic accusation and wild conjecture wrapped in off-putting self-righteousness – and embrace a strategy that changes not what we say but how we say it in order to be heard.

The science of public relations – the subtle art of persuasion – is a discipline that must be adopted by our movement. Those who effectively employ public relations to their benefit understand that a bat to the head is never an effective course of action in attaining desired results.

As with any marketing or sales effort or any successful social movement, one must engender trust before one seeks to close the sale. The problem inherent in our movement and its passionate base is the desire to close the sale without making the sale. We need to take a step back, recalibrate, redefine and reeducate. We need to employ persuasion, not pressure, with the right strategy and the right voice.

And who decides whose voice that is?

Reason must decide. The litmus test is simple. Who do the American people trust? Their elected officials? Not since Watergate. Celebrities? Celebrities certainly matter insomuch as they can draw attention to a cause and to its informed and authoritative spokespeople, but they are rarely seen or respected as such by the general public.

So who engenders both the respect and the trust required to begin to awaken an apathetic American public? Oddly enough, that voice comes from high within the very government seen by some to be the major roadblock to attaining our goals, or worse, as the main perpetrator of the 9/11 attacks. Such theorizing is destructive to any effective press for truth and should find no home here. Evidence matters. Facts matter. Image matters. Theories don’t.

This movement doesn’t need a strategy to win your support; you don’t need persuading – you are the movement. We need a voice to engage those without whose support we cannot succeed.


It’s all about perception.


Men and women of unassailable integrity – military commanders, CIA, FBI and military intelligence agents, aviation experts and senior-level administration officials – have already spoken out, putting name and reputations on the line. Men and women with a deep and pervasive understanding of how the United States government works and whose service to our country place them in a position above reproach. Men and women who can create reasonable doubt in the mind of the American public and steer attention to the authoritative voices that can cement that doubt.


These men and women, viewed by the American public as real American heroes, offer the promise of revitalizing our movement and engaging the general public on a level that today lies beyond our reach. Our movement may not perceive generals and CIA agents as the obvious choice, but must understand we could not ask for more effective spokespersons to engage the American public.

Again, we are not talking about the generals currently waging wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We are talking about those who have already spoken out and lent their good name and stellar reputations to this cause.

Despite the presence of such credible voices, our movement has been unable to create a vehicle with which to launch a strategic nationwide campaign that can wrestle momentum from the hands of those who seek to bury the truth and place it in the hands of those who would expose it to the light of day.

Until now.

Public Relations

There are two available options to engage the general public – advertising and public relations. Advertising space and time in the mass media is extremely expensive and often negatively viewed by the public as an attempt to manipulate. Conversely, public relations carries no cost for coverage and its efforts to humanize an issue and create goodwill in order to gain public support are generally viewed as balanced and believable. In a perfectly funded world both methodologies would be utilized. As nonprofits and social activists rarely enjoy that option, fiscal realities dictate viable action – a public relations campaign.

While effective public relations can be costly, the net benefit in shaping one’s image, promoting one’s cause and garnering the requisite support make it a worthy investment. The right PR firm not only partners in shaping strategy and message to convey the desired image, but also maintains the media contacts to bring that message directly to the public.

The most daunting challenge PR firms face in effectively conveying an image with which the public will identify lies in identifying trusted spokespersons that can articulate message in a manner that engenders their support. Those individuals have already been identified. All that remains is the crafting of the message and the vehicle for the right spokespeople to drive that message home.

Message massage is of paramount importance with any polarizing issue; what you say and how you say it take on an equal importance. While there are those who can follow the existing trail of evidence down the rabbit hole, our target demographic – a preoccupied American public – cannot. Our message must be re-calibrated to begin at the start with the most fundamental discrepancies and omissions in the 9/11 Commission Report in order to begin to chip away at the stone.

The general public’s attention span is short and their grasp of these issues is tenuous at best. Our message must harness and repeat the core concepts undeniable by the most hardened skeptics and that message must be repeated again and again before the onion can be peeled.

We must also bear in mind that while 9/11 changed our world overnight, it will take us considerably longer to change the public’s perception and understanding of the issues at hand. One effective piece in the New York Times or the Chicago Tribune or one interview with Katie Couric or Anderson Cooper, or any one placement in any new media, will not accomplish our goal. Our goal is now multimedia saturation – a consistent stream of stories through a cross-section of print media, regional, network and cable news outlets and their Internet counterparts.

In addition to saturating all media outlets at our disposal, we must provide tangible platforms our spokespersons can use to drive a renewed public interest into action.

Strategic Political Engagement

NYC CAN was the movement’s first step into the arena of electoral politics. The 9/11 referendum afforded NYC CAN a platform to engage hundreds of thousands of voters in a carefully orchestrated dialogue to reshape the public’s attitude toward its government’s actions as they relate to 9/11. Regardless of the referendum’s outcome, the campaign was a success in heightening public awareness of the need to demand answers to the questions our government continues to ignore. As awareness grows, so grows the peril to the elected representatives that refuse to act.

And that is exactly the point.

New York City is only one among countless opportunities to skin the cat. There are 9/11 advocates all across the country, many of which are presently engaged in civic action. While we encourage all groups to continue or begin to act, we would hope that all see the power and importance of those actions when taken under the umbrella of one common strategy, harnessing the strength of a unified, professionally crafted message.

Ballot initiatives, whether meant to enact legislation or to express the will of the people in a non-binding resolution, carry weight both as voter actions unto themselves and as platforms for civic engagement as part of the overall campaign. Their eventual outcome may in fact be of less importance than the civic engagement they engender.

We must also engage in efforts to pass local resolutions calling for further investigation into 9/11 as such efforts also raise the public profile of our mission. We must use that strategy to continue to lobby top officials and district attorneys. In states and cities where ballot initiatives are not accepted, as well as in states and cities where they are, our strategy can lay the groundwork that opens the door to running and supporting candidates on a platform of 9/11 accountability.

Keep in mind that which bears repeating; the outcome of these efforts may prove less important than the civic engagement these campaigns will engender. Much like public relations, saturation is the name of the game. Without tangible vehicles that enable civic engagement, our efforts to reshape the public’s perception will be for naught.

An Untangled Web

The concept and execution of our strategy presents both challenge and opportunity to the movement. As if through the looking glass in a world where bad is good and up becomes down, being too well versed in the intricacies of 9/11 can become a handicap once we acknowledge that our target demographic simply is not.

The average American’s general perception of September 11th can be summed up in five short words: two planes and two towers. It is up to us to reshape that perception using evidence in a manner that will lead to the requisite reasonable doubt of the story the public has come to accept.

There is certainly no lack of credible, well-documented research covering a myriad of 9/11 topics splashed across the Internet on countless websites.

Therein lies the problem.

Too much information, too many details and too many story lines muddy the waters for those too confused to digest the overload of information. In addition, rampant rhetoric and conjecture (for which there is no place) leave our target demographic wary and unconvinced, making it that much easier for our detractors to continue to marginalize our movement.

It’s all about how we bait the hook.

A haphazard dissemination of everything under the 9/11 sun, from credible evidence to amateur analysis, and from half-baked theory to full-blown truth, is not the way to convert the pervasive skepticism we face today. When we learn to control the content, flow and presentation of information in a more simplified and direct fashion we will control its effect.

What is missing is one carefully vetted, content-controlled web presence – a virtual ‘Citizens’ Commission’ containing a professionally designed interactive catalogue of the most legally sound evidence and a video portal for expert testimony to be used in an eventual investigation or court action. Laid out in easy-to-navigate chapter and verse, casual inquiry moves efficiently from the center of the story outward. If executed properly, casual inquiry will work its way to responsible, civic-minded action. But we must begin with the basics.

Every successful salesman understands the value of well-crafted collateral sales material. There is no end to what a true 9/11 homepage, a disciplined 9/11 primer, can become and no limit to its value in reaching our goal.

But we must begin at the start, always mindful that in order to close the sale we have to make the sale.

Our 9/11 Wake Up Call

We are at war against a government that has used the events of 9/11 to hijack a country from her people and placed the interests of the rich and the powerful above justice and truth. Wars can only be won through strategy, commitment and discipline.

Present strategy has moved us no closer to our goal; in fact, some of the actions this movement has embraced hold us back from gaining any real momentum, working to the benefit of the very people who stand in opposition to the truth. Our detractors love those who will carry their water, whether consciously or not, doing real damage to any chance of success.

We know many of you, like us, see our marginalized movement’s stalled momentum as a call to effective action – a call to take the fight to our detractors by using the very tools they employ to promote their own agenda. We must use these same time-tested tools to elevate our own search for answers with a campaign directed at the hearts and minds of the American people:


• a professional rollout of a national public relations campaign and trusted spokespeople to reshape image and regain momentum in order to broaden our reach

• a uniform and coordinated methodology for regional action feeding off and feeding into that campaign nationwide

• a disciplined Internet presence structured in content and tone to reshape public perception and create reasonable doubt


Albert Einstein defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. As we see ourselves in no position to argue, we would urge all who share our simple goal – truthful answers to reasonable questions – to abandon those methodologies which have proven, over and over again, not to work and come together in support of the time-tested strategies that will.

Let us move closer to our goals by accepting that the only effective path to success is through a course of action that engenders the support of the American public. We are committed only to the strategies that have stood the test of time. We urge the leaders of every like-minded organization to unite in a call for answers that is sure to be heard when we raise our voice as one.

Thinkers think and talkers talk. Patriots ACT.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outsider, I thought this was worth a topic on its own

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=18183

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

William Pepper, legal guy for NYCCAN, explains why the Campaign has dropped the Ballot initiative:

http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2009/10/william-pepper-explains-why-911 -ballot.html

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent news from New Hampshire; AT LEAST ten towns will have 9/11 question on ballot:

http://voteforanswersnh.com/

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest NYCCAN News:

March 12, 2010,

Fellow Advocates For Answers and Accountability:

On March 9, 2010 voters in the town of Richmond, New Hampshire became the second town in the United States to pass a resolution calling upon Congress to open a new investigation into the events of September 11, 2001. The first resolution of this kind was passed by the voters of Lincoln, Vermont in 2007.

This is very exciting news, but before giving a full read out on the results from the Vote For Answers New Hampshire campaign, we would like to bring your attention to a very important message from Bob McIlvaine. Please click on the link below right now to watch this short minute-and-a-half video of Bob urging all of us to join NYC CAN’s forthcoming campaign: "Building What?!"

Please click to watch this short minute-and-a-half video.

“Building What?!” is a phone and fax campaign aimed at helping the New York City Council become aware of the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7, and amplifying the request from more than one thousand architects and engineers that a new investigation be opened into the collapse of this building.

To make this campaign a success we will need your involvement and the involvement of every American who refuses to stand for the unscientific Building 7 report handed down by NIST. For 17 business days starting on Monday, March 15, we will channel the energy and strength of our movement into one voice to ensure that every member of the New York City Council will no longer be oblivious to the mysterious collapse of World Trade Center Building 7. Each morning, NYC CAN will send out an action alert asking you to phone or fax three city council members for that day until we reach all 51 council members. Thousands of phone calls and faxes will reinforce and pave the way for NYC CAN’s ongoing meetings with individual council members.



Please go to the "Building What?!" page to learn more.




In New Hampshire, the Vote For Answers resolution instructing New Hampshire’s congressional delegation “to pursue a new and independent investigation to address thoroughly all of the evidence and unanswered questions related to the events of September 11, 2001” passed 48 to 45 in Richmond (52% in favor).

To our disappointment seven other towns voted down the resolutions, however, the overall percentage of votes in favor (in towns where exact results were recorded) was 23%. In referendums on social issues where values matter more than awareness of the facts, 77% to 23% might be a landslide. However, because of the painful implications of 9/11 not being what we were told, and the media blackout on critical examination of the official 9/11 account, about 1 in 4 voters calling for a new 9/11 investigation is an accomplishment we can be proud of – it shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that questioning 9/11 is anything but fringe.

Among the four towns that have yet to vote, Barnstead will vote on Saturday, March 13, and Peterborough, Stoddard and Hanover will vote on May 11.

In addition to passing the resolution in Richmond and getting nearly 1 in 4 voters to vote in favor, Vote For Answers New Hampshire has garnered unprecedented local media coverage. The Keene Sentinel, Union Leader, Valley News, Brattleboro Reformer and Concord Monitor all published entire articles on the campaign prior to the town meetings – with more coverage sure to emerge following the results. It has also been mentioned in countless other articles and letters to the editor throughout the region, including these articles in the Concord Monitor and Now! Hampshire.

To everyone who contributed to the campaign, NYC CAN and the Monadnock 9/11 Truth Alliance thank you for helping us bring our message to countless thousands of New Hampshire residents.

Please go to Vote For Answers NH to get a full read out on the election results.

Moving Forward

While devoting intense effort to getting the remaining resolutions passed in Barnstead, Peterborough, Stoddard and Hanover, the dedicated activists in the Monadnock 9/11 Truth Alliance and other parts of New Hampshire will use the foundation they have built to begin pursuing three new endeavors: 1) working with the Keene City Council and other City Councils to pass similar resolutions, 2) working with State Representatives to introduce a similar resolution in the State House of Representatives that would be voted on in early 2011, and 3) organizing to expand Vote For Answers New Hampshire to several dozen towns in 2011.

On the national front, NYC CAN will push forward with ballot initiatives in other states where voters can petition for non-binding resolutions to be on the ballot. In states where laws prevent voters from petitioning for non-binding resolutions, we will work with supportive elected officials to place resolutions on local ballots directly, without petitioning, or for city councils to pass resolutions on their own.

NYC CAN’s top ballot initiative priority is Boston, where a feasible sum of 3,600 signatures will allow for non-binding “public policy questions” to be placed on ballots in all 18 Massachusetts House of Representatives Districts located in Boston (200 signatures are needed per district). There are also opportunities to petition for resolutions in Detroit and in cities throughout Wisconsin, and a number of cities across the country present opportunities for city councils to place resolutions directly on the ballot.

If you are interested in doing a ballot initiative where you live, or if you have friends on local boards and city councils who would be able to place a resolution on the ballot – or better yet, pass a resolution on their own – please contact us about getting a campaign started.

Lastly, please consider donating a manageable amount of $25 to help NYC CAN fund a new Zogby opinion poll and to support our ongoing work with the New York City Council, the Vote For Answers ballot initiatives, and other important efforts. With the significant increase in media coverage, it is time for a new opinion poll to bolster our message to elected officials. It is only because of your tremendous support that we are able to continue our work.

Sincerely,

Ted Walter
Executive Director

Thinkers think and talkers talk. Patriots ACT.

www.NYCCAN.org

ALSO VERY POWERFUL NYCCAN 30-MINUTE VIDEO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zYo1bKrCQE&NR=1

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest NYCCAN/'Remember Building 7' news:

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The Ads

Visit RememberBuilding7.org to watch the NEW TV ad and posters ads soon to been seen by millions of New Yorkers.


Dear Supporters,

We are thrilled to inform you that the World Premiere Tour of AE911Truth’s new documentary, “9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out,” is coming to New York this Sunday, June 24.

To show our support for the release of this groundbreaking film and use it as an opportunity to educate hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers, the Remember Building 7 campaign has contributed a small portion of the $85,000 we raised during the 10th Anniversary to place a double full-page ad in the center fold of this week’s Village Voice.

The Ad

http://www2.ae911truth.org/team/graphicsteam/ESO/ESO%20WP%20TOUR%20PRI NT%20&%20ONLINE%20ADS/ESO%20NYC%20VV%20AD%209.6(x2)%20x%2011.pdf
(sorry, this pic link doesn't work)

This massive ad featuring quotes from eight architects, engineers and other technical experts will be seen by 250,000 to 300,000 New Yorkers over the next seven days, with each impression costing less than 3 cents. The size, beauty and placement of the ad are sure to make anyone who opens the paper notice it, and the powerful quotes will make all but the most resolute adherents of the official story begin to question what we’ve been told about 9/11.

The Remember Building 7 campaign along with Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth would like to thank everyone who donated to make this ad possible.

Those of you in or near New York, be sure to pick up your copy of the Village Voice (it’s free!) and enjoy the feeling of knowing that hundreds of thousands of people are seeing what you’re seeing.

For those of you who are close enough to make it to New York this Sunday, the screenings of “Experts Speak Out” are as follows:
•2pm at Theater 80, 80 St. Marks Place
•7pm at the Church of St. Paul and St. Andrew, 263 West 86th St.

Admission is FREE, donations are welcomed!

Looking ahead, in the next three months the Remember Building 7 team will be deciding on the best way to use the remaining funds raised during the 10th Anniversary. After falling short of the original fundraising target and therefore being unable to execute our original advertising plan, we decided to bide our time and wait for the right opportunities, like the release of “Experts Speak Out.” If you have a creative and concrete suggestion for how to use of the remaining funds, please contact us!

Finally, to those of you who donated at least $50 during the 10th Anniversary, you will receive your very own copy of the Toronto Hearings DVD within the next 6 to 8 weeks. Again, thank you for your generous support!

Check out their website; they actually have a new (to me) video, from a new angle, which seems to show explosions down one side of Buillding 7:

http://rememberbuilding7.org/

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New NYCCAN fundraiser for continueing campaigns: donations will be matched by two generous donors; as a pensioner, I am not in a position to donate, but I have previously.
Hopefully some of the followers of this Forum will cough up something:

'Donate to the High-Rise Safety Initiative:
“Ready-to-Go-on-May 1st” Matching Gift Fundraiser – March 13th to April 1st:
http://highrisesafetynyc.org/donate/

Basically, the proposed campaign exposes a loophole in the 'Govt. Narrative': if Bldg. 7 fell by fire and a small amount of debris from the Twin Towers, why has there been no serious investigation to learn from this so that other High Rise Bldg.'s don't do the same?
This avoids any 'conspiracy' angle that could be used by opponents of a proper investigation.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Less than a hundred signers so far! Come on Guys & Gals, AVAAZ might be dodgy, but that doesn't mean we can't sign excellent petitions like this one. They have a huge number of followers, and if this petition gets on a roll, it will at least spread our message to many who otherwise might not otherwise ever question the 'Officiial Narrative'.

'Todd Zinser, Office of Inspector General, Department of Commerce: Investigate why NIST created a fraudulent report on WTC7':
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Todd_Zinser_Office_of_Inspector_G eneral_Department_of_Commerce_Investigate_why_NIST_created_a_fraudulen t_report_on_WTC7/?pv=1

Here is part of the original submission:

'It was only some years after the issuance of the NIST Report that drawings were released, in response to a FOIA request, revealing that critical structural features in Building 7 were inexplicably missing from consideration in the Report.These critical features included stiffeners, that provided critical girder support, as well as lateral support beams which supported a beam which allegedly buckled.
Only through the omission of any discussion about the stiffeners and the lateral support beams is NIST’s probable collapse sequence possible. With the inclusion of these critical features, NIST’s probable collapse sequence must be ruled out unambiguously. It is the unanimous opinion of the structural engineers who have carefully studied this matter that an independent engineering enquiry would swiftly reach the same conclusion.
After the discovery of these omissions, the group of engineers who discovered them pressed for nearly two years to get an answer to the question as to why these critical features were omitted from the Report’s discussion and analysis.
They were greeted with silence until October 25, 2013 when a NIST public relations official (not a professional engineer) finally acknowledged that the stiffeners had been omitted, but incredibly (from an engineering standpoint) said they were not necessary to consider....'

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