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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:02 am    Post subject: 14Dec12 Sandy Hook killer Adam Lanza's dad a LIBOR crook? Reply with quote

2 Mass Shootings Connected To Libor Scandal?
Saturday, December 15, 2012 22:58
http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2012/12/2-mass-shootin gs-connected-to-libor-2447738.html
The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was the tax director for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year. According to Fabian4Liberty, Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO. According to the link at FICO, Robert Holmes was a ‘Fraud Scientist’.
From Fabain4Liberty:
The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a motive and a link. This coincidence is impossible to overlook. Two mass shootings connected to LIBOR.
http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2012/12/2-mass-shootin gs-connected-to-libor-2447738.html

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sandy Hook Massacre seems to have as many holes in the story as the Aurora Batman massacre. It's a fat moving story but is covered well here:

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/category/sandy-hook-massacre/

Probably most worrying is the new crime of “Perpetrating Information” where social media is not allowed to report the inconsistencies of the bizarre official story...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They definitely got things in the wrong order during the release of information to the public. While the "lone gunman who shot himself" myth was presented as a fait accompli, they were telling us that 2 hand-guns were found by his body, a rifle was found in his car and all the victims died with shots from a rifle. Another rifle had to be found fast and lo and behold it was.

No trial, no pesky eye-witnesses and it is Columbine all over again - and if you've never researched that event, it is time you did. The official story bore no relation to the televised eye-witnesses and the multitude of eye-witness statements.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What mad deranged killer would go to the trouble of destroying their computer hard disk?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cybersleuths-try-to-mine- killers-hard-drive/2012/12/19/412cc81c-4a02-11e2-b6f0-e851e741d196_sto ry.html

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Some of the most important clues about what drove Adam Lanza to mass murder probably sit on the computer that the reclusive, technical-minded 20-year-old used as one of his main contacts with the world, law enforcement authorities said.

Lanza attempted to destroy his computer’s hard drive, the device that stores and retrieves data, before setting out Friday on a killing rampage in Newtown, Conn.


The Willyman blog digs a bit deeper into http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-launches-gun-violence-tas k-force/2012/12/19/90ff2d52-49f9-11e2-b6f0-e851e741d196_story_1.html

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In an afterthought, the Washington Post article tosses this little tidbit of info:

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In Connecticut on Wednesday, Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D), the state’s former attorney general, said in an interview that the evidence is indicating a motive but that the investigation is in progress. He declined to discuss preliminary findings.

“Motive is an issue in the investigation,” said Blumenthal, but he said he did not know whether investigators “will make findings or reach conclusions that are reliable.”

“There is a complexity and difficulty to the investigation resulting from the unique circumstances,” said Blumenthal, who is in Connecticut attending funerals. “As to making public facts, there may be sensitivity to the grieving of families and the need to be respectful.” Washington Post


Let me see if I got that right:

    evidence is saying there is a motive
    but it’s a secret
    discovering a motive is important
    but he doesn’t know if they will reach conclusions
    or if those conclusions will be reliable.
    the complexity of the case makes it hard
    because it’s a psychological operation conducted by assets and not the dead patsy
    they can’t tell you the motive because it might hurt the feelings of the families


When you wish to talk about Orwellian doublespeak, that’s it folks. Right there. And it’s just tossed out there by the Washington Post without them even so much as blinking or blushing.

...

I’m stunned at how “in your face” all of this is. stunned.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some short videos on the Sandy Hook shooting:

http://truth777exposed.blogspot.co.uk/

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting

http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/calendar.asp?mm=12&yyyy=2012&calendar_ID= 0&showTop=True&image1.x=12&image1.y=14

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gun control: it's been tried before, with genocidal effect:
http://12160.info/video/video/show?id=2649739:Video:1084162&xgs=1&xg_s ource=msg_share_video

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Psych meds linked to 90% of school shootings
Expert: Psychiatric drugs likely cause of Lanza's extreme violence
Published: 12/18/2012 at 10:16 PM
http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/psych-meds-linked-to-90-of-school-shootings  /
by Jerome R. Corsi Email | Archive
Jerome R. Corsi, a Harvard Ph.D., is a WND senior staff reporter. He has authored many books, including No. 1 N.Y. Times best-sellers "The Obama Nation" and "Unfit for Command." Corsi's latest book is "Where's the REAL Birth Certificate?"

NEW YORK – From the moment news emerged Friday that a young man had carried out a horrific massacre of elementary-school children, politicians from local city halls to the White House have been restoking the age-old push for more gun control. While guns have been a common denominator in mass slayings at schools by teens, there’s another familiar element that seems increasingly to be minimized.

Some 90 percent of school shootings over more than a decade have been linked to a widely prescribed type of antidepressant called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors or SSRIs, according to British psychiatrist Dr. David Healy, a founder of RxISK.org, an independent website for researching and reporting on prescription drugs.

Though there has been no definitive confirmation that drugs played a role in the Newtown, Conn., assault, that killed 20 children and six adults, media have cited family members and acquaintances saying suspect Adam Lanza was taking prescription medication to treat “a neurological-development disorder,” possibly Aspergers.

Healy cautioned that the public needs “to wait to find out what Adam Lanza was on, and whether his behavior does fit the template of a treatment-induced problem.”

However, in an email to WND, he said he suspected prescribed psychiatric medications was the cause of Lanza’s violent behavior.

Healy said that while the public waits to learn more about Lanza, there are two general points that can be made.

First, he said, “psychotropic drugs of pretty well any group can trigger violence up to and including homicide.”

“Second, the advocates of treatment claim both that it is the illness and not the drugs that causes violence and that we are leaving huge numbers of people untreated.”

But Healy argued that if this were the case, “we should not find that comfortably over 90 percent of school shootings are linked to medication intake.”

Dr. Peter R. Breggin, a Harvard-trained psychiatrist and former full-time consultant at the National Institute of Mental Health, told WND it’s likely that problems for Lanza began with “getting tangled up” with psychiatric medicine.

Breggin insisted there has been overwhelming scientific evidence for decades correlating psychiatrically prescribed drugs with violence.

Writing in Ethical Human Sciences and Services, a peer-reviewed scholarly journal, in 2003, Breggin concluded SSRI drugs could be a factor in suicide, violence and other forms of extreme abnormal behavior, as evidenced in case reports, controlled clinical trials, and epidemiological studies in children and adults.

Since the 1970s, Breggin has testified in approximately 100 trials, including one in which Judge Robert Heinrichs ruled the adverse effects of taking Prozac drove a 16-year-old in Winnipeg, Canada, to commit an unprovoked murder.

Breggin appeared before the Veterans Affairs Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives in 2010 in support of his 2008 book “Medication Madness: The Role of Psychiatric Drugs in Cases of Violence, Suicide and Crime.”

Breggin testified to Congress that research conducted in the medical science demonstrates a causal relationship between antidepressant drugs and the production of suicide, violence, mania and other behavioral abnormalities.

He warned Congress of the risks of giving these drugs to heavily armed young men and women in the military.

Mainstream religion

Breggin asserted that establishment media “ignores the scientific evidence linking psychiatric medications and violent behavior because psychiatry is the religion of the mainstream media, and they don’t want to see the dangers of psychiatrically prescribed drugs.”

“Besides, the drug companies also have incredible influence through advertising such that they can call the shots,” he said.

He believes the Lanza case fits the pattern of school shooters in some of the most famous incidents in recent memory, including the 1999 shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado and the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007.

“Adam Lanza has in common with many of the young men who were shooters that they were outsiders who lived in the shadows, who deal with a lot of shame, humiliation and isolation,” Breggin explained.

He calls the psychiatric diagnoses “worthless.”

“We know exactly who they are,” he said. “They are called ‘geeky’ in the extreme. Not a single one has ever come forward with a close friend. They are alienated from their families, and they have been involved in psychiatry.”

Breggin insists that instead of psychiatric treatment, children of this kind need “more reaching out, more socialization, more caring, more involvement.”

“Our schools, our families, and our communities need to be aware of the kids who are withdrawn and violent, not because they are going to become violent – hardly any of them are going to become violent – but because these are really hurt kids,” he said.

“We can call them evil, we can call them mentally ill, but the pattern is really quite clear,” Breggin continued. “They are highly intelligent and highly withdrawn and they are all involved with psychiatry, so the claim psychiatry is going to do some good is really ridiculous.”

In many school shootings carried out by minors, court documents are sealed and the extent of chemical use is unknown to the public.

But in a number of high-profile cases, the link has been reported:
Kip Kinkel was withdrawing from Prozac and had been prescribed Ritalin when he murdered his mother and stepfather then shot 22 classmates, killing two, in 1998.
Christopher Pittman was withdrawing from Luvox and from Paxil when he killed his paternal grandparents in 2001.
Elizabeth Bush, who fired at fellow students in Williamsport, Pa., in 2001, wounding one, was on Prozac.
Jason Hoffman, was on Effexor and Celexa when he opened fire at his El Cajon, Calif., high school, wounding five.
Shawn Cooper of Notus, Idaho, was on antidepressants when he fired a shotgun on students and staff.
T.J. Solomon, on antidepressants, wounded six at his Conyers, Ga., high school.
Eric Harris was taking Luvox when he and fellow student Dylan Klebold killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 24 others before turning their guns on themselves at Columbine High School in Colorado.
At Virginia Tech in 2007, where 32 were murdered, authorities found “prescription medications related to the treatment of psychological problems had been found among Mr. Cho’s effects,” according to the New York Times.

“Violence and other potentially criminal behavior caused by prescription drugs are medicine’s best kept secret,” Healy said in a statement last month. “Never before in the fields of medicine and law have there been so many events with so much concealed data and so little focused expertise.”

In the past six years, Healy has authored two best-selling books analyzing the degree to which the pharmaceutical industry has influenced medical doctors to prescribe antidepressant drugs to patients with psychiatric problems: “Let Them Eat Prozac: The Unhealthy Relationship Between the Pharmaceutical Industry and Depression,” in 2006 and “Pharmageddon” in 2012.

Recently, Healy’s RxISK.org added a “violence section” to its website, allowing users to enter the name of a prescription drug to find out the side effects recorded in the more than 4 million adverse drug event reports filed with the FDA since 2004.

Was Lanza on meds?

Writing for Slate.com Monday, Emily Willingham was quick to warn against demonizing Asperger’s syndrome, or autism in general, as the cause of Lanza’s violence. Likewise, in a New York magazine piece titled “Asperger’s is a Red Herring to Explain the Newtown Massacre,” Adam Martin wrote, “As the nation sets out to understand how Friday’s massacre came to pass, some are rightly worried that the high-functioning form of autism will become unfairly stigmatized.”

Nevertheless, credible sources have not withdrawn published claims that Lanza was on prescribed psychiatric medication at the time of the shooting.

On CBS’s “60 Minutes” Sunday, Mark and Louise Tambascio, friends of the shooter’s mother, Nancy Lanza, said Adam Lanza was being medicated for Asperger’s.

“I know [Adam Lanza] was on medication and everything, but she homeschooled him at home cause he couldn’t deal with the school classes sometimes,” Louise Tambascio told CBS reporter Scott Pelley. “So she just homeschooled Adam at that home. And that was her life.”

Her comment followed Mark Tambascio explaining to Scott Pelley that “friends told us that [Asperger's syndrome] did dominate the Lanzas’ lives.”

In addition, the Washington Post reported over the weekend an unnamed former neighbor of Nancy and Adam Lanza in Newtown, Conn., recalled Adam as “a really rambunctious kid” who “was on medication.”

The story became confused when a now discredited source claiming to be Adam Lanza’s “Uncle Jonathan” told several publications, including the Sun in the United Kingdom, that Adam was being treated with the strong anti-psychotic drug Fanapt.

Later reports found no relatives who knew “Uncle Jonathan.”

Separately, law enforcement officers have found evidence Lanza played graphically violent video games, the Hartford Courant reported on Sunday.

The Express in the United Kingdom reported Monday that Lanza had “an unhealthy obsession for violent video games” and that his favorite video game was said to be a “shockingly violent” fantasy war game called Dynasty Warriors, which is “thought to have given him inspiration to act on his darkest thoughts.”

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Several people have successfully dismissed the link to the LIBOR scandal.

http://occupycorporatism.com/no-viable-connection-between-peter-lanza- us-senate-libor-hearings/

I suggest that the real objective of the shootings were against the gun lobby. The article below is full of interesting links demonstrating a Wide Rnging plot against Gun Lobby and anti-Big Pharma.

I suggest the title of this thread be changed so that we are not advancing the disinfo.

http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_John_Noveske_mysterious_death_car_cr ash.html

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Prominent rifle manufacturer killed in mysterious car crash days after posting psych drug link to school shooters

Thursday, January 10, 2013
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
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John Noveske is one of the most celebrated battle rifle manufacturers in America. His rifles, found at www.NoveskeRifleworks.com are widely recognized as some of the finest pieces of American-made hardware ever created. (I own one of his rifles, and it's a masterpiece of a machine that just keeps on running.) Sadly, John Noveske was killed in a mysterious car crash just a few days ago, on January 4, 2013.

According to the Outdoor Wire, his car "traveled across the oncoming lane onto the dirt highway shoulder until it struck two large boulders. The vehicle rolled and Mr. Noveske was ejected."

But barely a week before this incident, John Noveske posted a lengthy, detailed post on Facebook that listed all the school shootings tied to psychiatric drugs. At the end of the post, he asked, "What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on?"

That was the last post he ever made. (Full text below.)

Mysterious death during gun control debate raises questions
John Noveske wasn't the first prominent gun rights supporter to be killed in the last few days. Keith Ratliff, the creator of a super-popular YouTube channel featuring videos of exotic weapons, was also recently found dead.

The Daily Mail reports that Ratliff was "discovered on a rural road in Carnesville, Georgia. Ratliff had a single gunshot wound the head and police are treating his death as a homicide."

Someone murdered Ratliff, in other words, and it had to be someone with the ability to get close enough to Ratliff to take him out without warning.

Beyond these two shootings, the widely-discredited CNN journalist Piers Morgan, wanted for questioning in Britain's Daily Mirror phone hacking scandal, invited guests onto his show who threatened Alex Jones' children and laughed about the idea of Piers Morgan shooting Alex Jones with an AR-15.

That astonishing video interview is available at:
www.infowars.com/veiled-threat-piers-morgan-guest-says-shoot-alex-jon. ..

Steve Quayle, creator of SteveQuayle.com, says "the red list is on!" This refers to the so-called "red list" -- a secret kill list of Americans authorized by Obama and designed to be invoked immediately before an attempted radical leftist takeover of the nation. In support of this theory, Obama himself actually signed into law the NDAA which authorizes secret assassinations of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.

Instead of the red list being "conspiracy theory," it appears to be a key component of Obama's domestic policy.

Beyond coincidence: Pieces of the puzzle rapidly coming together
Sure, a car crash involving John Noveske could be a coincidence. It could also be a coincidence that no video footage has been released from Sandy Hook showing Adam Lanza carrying any rifle whatsoever.

It might also be a coincidence that Dianne Feinstein just happened to have her detailed gun confiscation bill ready to release immediately following the Sandy Hook shooting.

It might also be a total coincidence that according to Google.com, the United Way Sandy Hook donation support page was created on December 11, 2012 -- a full three days before the shooting took place.

It could also be a total coincidence that NBC News reported Adam Lanza's AR-15 rifle was left in his car and was never used in the shooting at all.

I suppose it could be a coincidence that Bank of America slammed home an economic embargo against an online gun parts retailer in the days following the Sandy Hook shooting.

And it could be coincidence that Facebook suspended or shut down the accounts of hundreds of prominent people who advocated the Second Amendment, including our account here at Natural News.

And finally, it could be a total coincidence that police radio recordings seem to indicate there were multiple shooters involved in Sandy Hook.

But what are the odds of ALL of these coincidences existing simultaneously? Those odds are virtually zero.

Something's fishy with all this. It's becoming increasingly apparent that an order has come down from the very top to destroy, silence, threaten or execute true American patriots. Steve Quayle has long predicted this would be the very first step before foreign troops are unleashed on American soil to take over the country and deliver it, just as Obama has always planned, into the hands of the globalist crime syndicate.

It all sounds outrageous, I admit, and I'm not even sure what to believe myself. But it's becoming more difficult by the day to deny actual events happening right before our eyes. Believe what you will, but don't be surprised if people like Steve Quayle and Alex Jones were right all along. If we see any more mysterious deaths of prominent gun advocates, it going to raise huge red flags across the patriot community.

Read John Noveske's last Facebook post

This is the last post John Noveske made on his Facebook page before he was killed:
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Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.

Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil...")

Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)

Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.

Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."

Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.

Missing from list... 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds....

What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21...... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az

What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado

What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or

What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
Roberts is the only one that I haven't heard about being on drugs of some kind.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens after the Gun Ban?
Short clip from Australia:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/government-corruption-1/what-happen s-after-gun-bans.html

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This short clip may have been up before, I can't find it. Anyway, it is very worrying that TWO boys run (one on a skateboard) screaming down the road, closely followed by 7 or 8 police cars, then there was a bunch of shooting....
Only 2 children were actually confirmed dead at the hospital...did one of the two identified ones go to school with a skateboard?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXsrqKMRwag

Then this; I won't get involved, as my face recognition skills are not that hot (!!!!), but perhaps one of you guys and gals out there can download the following video, and isolate the photos with 'name clips', and put them up on a page together; it would be easier to see if some of these people were using false names, and 'acting':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXsrqKMRwag

Remember the plans for Operation Northwoods: grieving 'relatives' and phony 'burials' planned.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Powerful pro-gun testimony from father of child victim; unfortunately, none of the three commenters address a major plank in his testimony - the appaling level of violence on film and TV (and I would add, video 'games'):
http://12160.org/video/video/show?id=2649739:Video:1105806&xgs=1&xg_so urce=msg_share_video

There is a great deal of info on the following site, where working groups testimonies are transcripted (go to the meeting, and click on one of the multitude of names).
A very important one occurs tomorrow, at Newtown (the others were held in Hartford, Conn.):
http://www.cga.ct.gov/asaferconnecticut/

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!!

Shooting At Middle School]
Police responded to a shooting at Price Middle School in Atlanta early Thursday afternoon, WSBTV reports. Authorities say that multiple people, including a 14-year-old, were wounded, according to Fox News.
Police said the teen was shot in the back of the neck and immediately transported to Grady Memorial Hospital for treatment, 11Alive reports. The victim was reportedly awake and responsive while being transported to the hospital.

The second victim -- a teacher -- received medical attention for minor cuts and bruises. The teacher may have been trampled during the chaotic scene, WXIA reports.

One person is in custody, according to CBS Atlanta. Atlanta Police spokesperson Carlos Campos told WXIA that the suspect was tentatively identified as a student. The shooting reportedly occurred outside the building.

The school was placed on lockdown, along with an elementary school and high school in the area. Parents were initially asked not to come to the school to avoid additional confusion, but students are expected to be released at the normal dismissal time of 3:45 p.m.

This is a breaking news story. Check back for updates.
Price Middle School Shooting: Multiple Injuries In Attack At Southeast Atlanta School
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/31/price-middle-school-shooting_ n_2592672.html

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a lot of talk around the net that Gene Rosen is FEMA - the pics DO NOT MATCH - FEMA guy has bigger, different shape ear, and head looks bigger:

http://usahitman.com/erdnwff/

Someone seems to be playing 'silly *uggers'!
Be careful about getting fooled.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Canadian couple went to Sandy Hook and Newtown to look around for themselves, and to try to contact some of the locals.
They did not receive a friendly response, but the good news is a number of the 'officials' told them to check a 'snopes' debunking site, which means that at least the 'officials' are aware of the questioning going on on the net:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-tragedy-an-inquisitive-vis it-to-newtown-connecticut/5320784

As one of the pictures taken by Scott DeLarn shows, Sandy Hook sports it's own Hiram Masonic Lodge, and also a Royal Arch Lodge (and of course, Newtown sports an important 'Church of Satan'):
http://www.hiramlodge18.org/

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very good video, exposing foreknowledge with 'donate' sites up before the 'event':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6fvFVVEG5Q

And here is the 'Snopes.com' debunking site recommended by 'officials':
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

National Sheriff's Association support Americans right to own arms, as guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment:

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/02/national-sheriffs-associa tion-announces-they-will-not-support-unconstitutional-gun-control-laws -2554652.html

I couldn't find anything on the MSM, then I found this from Guardian in January:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/16/sheriffs-vow-defy-obama-gu n-laws

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just found this in the Scottish Review; no 'Comment' section, but an interesting point from our point of view re Columbine; there was normally an 'armed guard' at the school, but he was absent that day! Hmmm...:

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'In 1996 Columbine High School had an armed guard, although he was absent from campus on the day of the massacre. Whether or not the two gunmen could have known about this absence and what influence this had on their decision to commit their atrocity remains unclear...'

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Date on Social Security Death Record for Adam Lanza Is December 13, 2012, One Day Before the Sandy Hook Massacre
January 29th, 2013

http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=33461

The main Sandy Hook thread is here.

http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=32818

Geneologybank.com pulls the data directly from the Social Security Administration:
Adam P. Lanza: Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Death Record
Name: Adam P. Lanza
State of Issue: New Hampshire
Date of Birth: Wednesday April 22, 1992
Date of Death: Thursday December 13, 2012
Est. Age at Death: 20 years, 7 months, 21 days
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Death date been rectified:

The SSDI date has been rectified to 14th December, but I eroneously copied Adam's mother's info onto this comment, rather than Adam's.
I cannot now get Adam's changed info, so I have removed my comment.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An interesting video, which seems to show clearly (see caveat end of post) that the car said to belong to Adam Lanza's mother, which he was said to have driven there, is registered to a guy with all kinds of crimes to his name, including being on the child abuse and sex abuse registers; that the laughing 'father' of Emilie Parker (shown in this video, but has widely appeared in others) suddenly switches to 'fake sorrowful' (hardly surprising, as Emilie did not 'die' in the 'school shooting', as reported, but is shown sitting with Obama AFTER the event; but also a completely new bit of info (I haven't seen it before, and I've seen I think most of the videos up on the net re Sandy Hook), which is that apparently Adam's father (Libor link) was paying Adam's mother $240,000 (or possibly $285,000) a year, and that it was increasing. Now THAT is a motive to not be too upset if she gets killed, wouldn't you think?
The second and third video clips are by the same person, just clarifying or adding a little info to what was in the main (first) video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_551262&feature=i v&src_vid=DGIM0SaSL5k&v=FFf5n0xbl08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_384133&feature=i v&src_vid=FFf5n0xbl08&v=TQHNT2X0rPw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_269557&feature=i v&src_vid=FFf5n0xbl08&v=CRMgnrlLiv8

By the way, that scruffy, paedo Rodia is just the kind of guy the MK-ULTRA/Project Monarch Satanists use for their evil machinations. He has a registered address in the area, which turns out to be owned by an incarcerated (for providing weapons to the Latin Kings, the largest and best organised Latin street gang in America) porn site owner, Nazi memorabilia and weapons accessories seller.
Rodia has gone to live with his 19 year old neice in Florida, also a drug abuser and petty thief, and a mentally retarded 'crack' baby (sounds like a classical case of a multi-generational sex abuse family, the kind the MK-Monarch merchants love to use)(just a strong hunch - would fit perfectly with apparent police cover-up of his car being used, and NOT Adam Lanza's mother's car, but see caveat below).

WORD OF WARNING: There may be some doubt of the identity of Christopher Rhodia as the owner of the car - apparently there is room for doubt (see following link):
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/sandy-hook-shootingsuspect- car-linked-to-christopher-a-rodia-and-drug-family-of-norwalk/

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hartford Courant exposes hoax (though goes lightly):
No Sndy Hook children in 'Sandy Hook' fund-raising choir (run by lady with sticky fingers!):
http://www.ctnow.com/news/connecticut/newtown-sandy-hook-school-shooti ng/hc-newtown-choir-controversy-20130207%2c0%2c7610328.story

(Just replaced link; appears the other didn't worK).

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

North Dakota Legislature will not allow their State Police to enforce some of the proposed federal gun laws, should they be imposed:

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=8554

“We don’t believe in governing by executive order,” said State Representative Bob Skarphol (R), speaking for himself and other state legislators. “There are checks and balances ingrained into the government for a reason, and these should be followed.”

Skarphol further asserted that the N.D. Legislature would not allow its state’s police departments to enforce some of the proposed federal gun laws, should they be imposed.

According to Skarphol, a line was drawn following the recent harsh threats from Vice President Joe Biden, who warned that President Barack Obama could institute gun control via executive order. This prompted concerns of new federal regulations being forced upon the Peace Garden State....'

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another interesting link, to among other things a vocal critic of Newtown school board; her husband died in a 'car crash' last July, the day after Susan, his wife, criticised the Board at a public meeting. Her husband was the 'prop man' for film 'Dark Knight Rising', and would have been responsible for the Gotham map where 'Sandy Hook' is written:

http://www.insanemedia.net/susan-getzinger-exclusive-interview-scott-g etzinger-batman-map/1287

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Video I've just found, stating a 'Drill' of a school shooting was going on on the same day 35 minutes away from Sandy Hook:
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

School Safety Officer, Wolfgang W. Halbig, doesn't believe anyone was killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, and he's looking for some answers. So much so, in fact, that he was paid a visit by some police investigators telling him to back off.

Mr. Halbig isn't your average "conspiracy theorist." He's worked in public education as a teacher, dean, assistant principal, principal of an alternative school and as the Director for School Safety and Security for the Seminole County Public Schools, a school district of approximately 65,000 students.

A former Florida State Trooper and United States Customs Inspector, Mr. Halbig was invited by the U.S. Department of Justice to train over 3,500 school police officers, school superintendents and school principals. He travels the country providing presentations and keynotes to a variety of school board associations and conferences and is a nationally-recognized school safety and security expert and consultant, who has provided safety training and school assessments for more than 4,000 school districts nationwide.

Dave Gahary of American Free Press spoke with Wolfgang about why he doesn't believe the official story of the Sandy Hook Elementary School event, in this interesting 40 minute interview.


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He gave out his telephone number, he is on facebook http://www.facebook.com/wolfgang.w.halbig

We need to make sure he keeps healthy... Rolling Eyes

This is a letter he has written recently...

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To: Vance and Kehoe
January 22, 2014
Subject: Why would one of you send Homicide Detectives to my home and Threaten me with Felony Arrest by CT State Police?

[Lieutenant J. Paul] Vance and [Newtown Police Chief Michael] Kehoe;

I do not know which one you of you had the idea that by having the Lake County, Florida Sheriffs Homicide Detectives show up at my house and threatened me with Felony arrest by the CT State Police if I did not stop asking questions about Sandy Hook Shooting.

You want me to stop asking questions in light of the fact that you both have yet to respond to any of my Connecticut Freedom of Information Act requests for the past 9 months, you both should be arrested for failing to comply with Connecticut State Laws.

I have served honorably in the Military during Vietnam, I served as a Florida State Trooper in Miami, Florida. I worked as United States Customs Inspector at both International Airports and Seaports.

I graduated at the top of my class at the Florida Highway Patrol Academy and that is why my class elected me as their class president to speak at our graduation.

What you two are doing is just unbelievable and I cannot believe that the law enforcement community across the United States is accepting the Danbury State Attorney report without the FBI Classified Investigative information included.What in the world needs to be Classified by the FBI?

You stated that there was just one suspect and he shot himself in the classroom. Is that correct?
He shot 20 children and six school staff members. Is that correct?
He fired 153 rounds using both handguns and a .223 Bushmaster rifle as you stated. Is that correct?
He shot his way through the front glass door. Is that correct?
He parked his black Honda civic in the front parent drop off area with all four car doors wide open as Barbara Sibley a parent witness observed. Is that correct?
He left a 12 gauge Ithaca shotgun in the front seat of the black Honda Civic. Is that correct?
He took approximately 11 minutes inside the school to kill 20 children and 6 school staff members. Is that correct?

So what has to be CLASSIFIED BY THE FBI? HERE ARE THE WHY’S:

Why NO Life Star Trauma Helicopter on Dec 14, 2012 since you use them in every active shooter drill when the news media covers your stories. WHY?
Why did you not allow the Paramedics and EMT’S inside the school after 11 minutes?
Who was the person who declared all 20 children and six school staff members legally dead? Who?
Why did it take over an hour to transport someone to the hospital?
Why do you have a 50 to 60 year old women being transported by ambulance as Natalie Hammond when Natalie Hammond is only 40 years old? Why pretend?
Why have 26 small Christmas trees behind the Sandy Hook Volunteer fire house on Dec 14, 2012 and then decorate them on Dec 15, 2012 after the shooting? Why?
Why have a Lieutenant of the Newtown Police Department with 24 years not leave his off duty job where he is controlling traffic at a construction work site until two hours after the shooting started? This is the best one of all. Why?
Why have a Licensed Registered Nurse who works at Sandy Hook Elementary School that Nancy Lan[z]a the mother of Adam Lan[z]a is a great and wonderful Kindergarten teacher at her school? Why does she lie on National News?
Why have a Police Chief State in the Newspaper article that his Lt. is not a first responder? Does anyone belief that for one-second especially when you have two Ct State troopers escorting a prisoner to the Danbury courthouse when hearing the active shooter call and respond to Sandy Hook. Why them and not the Lieutenant?


We have all these great police investigators and NO one questions the actions of December 14, 2012.You both then did a great job and deserve an Oscar at the Oscars in Hollywood. Do not send anymore detectives to my home.Please answer my questions if you can.

Thanks

Wolfgang W Halbig

*Formerly the Executive Director of the National Institute for School and Workplace Safety, Wolfgang Halbig has recently formed a new safety and security company, Children’s Safety Institute. Prior to founding NISWS, Mr. Halbig worked in public education as a teacher, dean, and assistant principal, principal, principal of an alternative school and as the Director for School Safety and Security of the Seminole County Public Schools, a school district of approximately 65,000 students.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:42 am    Post subject: Sandy Hook - A scripted event? Reply with quote

http://intellihub.com/credentialed-expert-sandy-hook-school-shooting-s cripted-event-planning-maybe-2-years/

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The mystery is almost over as one investigator gets close to the truth. What really happened at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in December of 2012?
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(INTELLIHUB) — Over a year has passed since the reported Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting transpired and some, like independent investigator Wolfgang W. Halbig, want answers. In fact, Freedom of Information Act (FIOA) requests on the matter, filed legally by Halbig, have even been denied, which may open up a new can of worms for officials as Halbig is determined to press for the arrests of conspirators that were involved in the elaborate hoax.

You see, Wolfgang W. Halbig is not just some conspiracy theorist flaunting his personal views about the Sandy Hook school shooting on YouTube like we saw in hundreds of other YouTube videos which surfaced in the public domain in the days and weeks following the reported shooting. Not that there is anything wrong with any of the videos that were made or any of the questions that were previously asked–but simply put, Halbig has credentials most others don’t. In fact, Halbig has an extensive background in education and law enforcement that has led him to believe that the Sandy Hook school shooting was indeed faked as no technical aspects of the crime make sense.

Halbig, who runs the website ChildrensSafteyInstitute.com, is an expert witness in the field of school safety and security and has also testified before the Congressional Commission on School Safety and Security. Halbig is the executive director of the National Institute of School and Workplace Safety and was even a former Florida State Trooper and a U.S. Customs agent, giving him his expansive background in education and law enforcement.

Halbig has also investigated the Columbine school shooting which took place in Colorado, back in 1999.

Amazingly, after a rather thorough and concise investigation of the Sandy Hook school shooting, Halbig concluded the following:

“In my professional opinion, [Sandy Hook was] a scripted event [...] in planning for maybe two, two and a half years.”

Recently in a radio interview with American Free Press’ Dave Gahary, Halbig pointed out a long list of problems that he has with the official Sandy Hook story as none of it adds up. Washingtons’ Blog provided a list of Halbig’s concerns:

law enforcement parked 1/4 mile away upon arrival. Why didn’t they rush to a heart-wrenching emergency if it really occurred?

no trauma helicopters were ordered. This is unheard of for an actual emergency.

no paramedics were allowed in the school. This is unheard of.

officials refuse to say who declared all 26 people dead. By law, this must come from a doctor. This refusal of so much basic information indicates lies and cover-ups.

official narrative claims emergency personnel didn’t find the school secretary and nurse after 4 hours of searching.

this “event” included a traffic sign lit with the message, “everyone must sign in.” Officials refuse any comment on this element that would be present for a staged event/drill.

porta potties were on site; again with no comment by officials and consistent with holding a staged event.

no names were listed for the 26 children and chorus director at the 2013 Super Bowl event in honor of Sandy Hook. The children resemble the alleged shooting victims. It’s unimaginable to not list these names for such a huge deal.

no lawsuits filed by parents for negligence against school district. This is unheard of.

a shooter with Aspergers would have poor motor skills and muscle tone – how did he carry all the gear and shoot with such precision? This combination is impossible to imagine.

2 homicide investigators threatened Mr. Halbig for making inquiries consistent with his professional duties to learn about this event for future school safety.

Newtown Public Schools won’t return any calls. Mr. Halbig says this non-cooperation to contribute information for other schools’ safety is unheard of.

the FBI classified the report on Sandy Hook. This has never been done before, and indicates a cover-up of all the evidence that this was a staged event.

radio transmissions are consistent in tone and content for a drill, not an actual emergency.

multiple weapons reported at a limited crime scene were never found. This is not credible.

law enforcement sent a kindergarten girl from the hall to stay at the crime scene of room 8 to be alone with dead bodies. This is a ridiculous claim that demands investigation and answers.

no parents viewed the bodies of their children. This is also unheard of.

no documents are being released via Freedom of Information Act requests. This is unheard of.

trauma services were never requested. This would never occur.

tearing down the school is consistent with destruction of evidence, given the HUGE gaps between official accounts and the evidence.

there’s zero evidence that a bio-hazard company was contacted to clean blood, bodily fluids, and officials refuse comment. This is impossible.

Mr. Halbig’s inquiries of who installed the school security system has been met with silence. This is unheard of to not get this information to improve other schools.


To no surprise, Halbig was recently visited at his residence by a pair of Florida homicide detectives trying to intimidate him to stop his Sandy Hook investigation.

Halbig maintains he has done nothing wrong and has even stated how he followed all of the legal and proper procedures pertaining to the FIOA requests he filed. Halbig also said that he has not threatened or harassed anyone who he has called pertaining to the investigation.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some more info on same case:

'Sandy Hook Wolfgang W Halbig Letter to Connecticut State Police after being threatened':
http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2014/02/sandy-hoo k-wolfgang-w-halbig-letter-to-connecticut-state-police-after-being-thr eatened-2450870.html

scienceplease 2, agree we need to get this out to try to keep the guy alive, as well as get the info out for truth's sake. I have passed the info to some useful contacts in the States, as well as a couple over here.

Wakey, wakey, folks!!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(Thanks, Outsider)

Another Wolfgang interview... (quite poor audio but easy to understand).


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Sandy Hook Victim Rachel D'Avino Alive! Special guest at':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exy-nNSQl_c

I'm useless at facial comparisons, but here are more
possible 'inconsistencies'.
Interestingly, the guy who made the video brings in the 'Northwoods' docs to show that these kinds of plans were around at least as long ago as 1962.
There are very strong similarities between Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon and other 'terror attacks' with the Northwoods template.

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