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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Are UFOs really from outer space? Reply with quote

A pilot and his passengers have reported seeing a UFO approximatley 1 mile across while on a flight to the Channel Islands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQLNblZNDEA
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and this has what to do with 9/11 and false flag terror??
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go onto www.abovetopsecret.com mate, best place for all that stuff!
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Have people like you got nothing better to do. You make me laugh. you have quotes from M L K on your post. Yet you stand in judgemnet over others. I bet you are best of friends with Tony Gosling. How do you know it is not another aspect of False flag Terror. Do not contact me again, unless you have a valid reason too. What a waste! "


Sherlock, there's no need for you to send me abusive PM's. I was simply stating that this thread was in the wrong section. Simple

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This from the Independent

Is the truth really out there? At last, the MoD opens its files

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article2511433.ece

And David, you need to take a chill pill mate. If there's anyone judging others or jumping to conclusions it's not Andy
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh No, i was looking for the official explanation as some sort of swamp gas rising to form a large atmospheric ice crystal which seemed as though it was moving due to the various reflections of the sun, and then the story changing to a weather balloon the next day.

times must be changing as in years past any pilot filing a report would have been ridiculed and suspended from duties faster than blair could say terrorist.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh No, i was looking for the official explanation as some sort of swamp gas rising to form a large atmospheric ice crystal which seemed as though it was moving due to the various reflections of the sun, and then the story changing to a weather balloon the next day.

times must be changing as in years past any pilot filing a report would have been ridiculed and suspended from duties faster than blair could say terrorist.


Good point mate. I find it strange it has not recieved much coverage from the media. cover up maybe. What do you think?
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even though some people here seem to believe that talking about the UFO ET issue should be swept away to the other forums 'Above Top Secret, cant we dispense with such strict compart-mentalism and realize that both 9/11 and the UFO/advanced technology cover-up are completely interlinked?
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh No, i was looking for the official explanation as some sort of swamp gas rising to form a large atmospheric ice crystal which seemed as though it was moving due to the various reflections of the sun, and then the story changing to a weather balloon the next day.

times must be changing as in years past any pilot filing a report would have been ridiculed and suspended from duties faster than blair could say terrorist.


Good point mate. I find it strange it has not recieved much coverage from the media. cover up maybe. What do you think?


usually if there's truth to it the media will stay very very silent, that way the story will 'go away'. Its always amusing to watch the media at work, they give themselves away far too easily, for instance if its a provable hoax, then it will get splashed all over the newspapers for a few days, and referred to for years afterwards. remember that remote flying saucer they spent a few hundered thousand on, or the crop cirlce hoaxers? the two old boys, always pops up in the newspapers years afterwards to ridicule the serious crop circle reasearch, the same with the ufo's.

There's some ex policeman thats has compiled tens of thousans of ufo reports from past and present officers, i forget his name now, but along with pilots who use to be silenced, there's a plethora of evidence out there.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Are UFOs really from outer space? Reply with quote

I was elsewhere on the internet during the past couple of days but i must say it's always nice to come back to the 9/11 truth forum.

I was talking about UFO's and i got a bit ridiculed about it (you know the general stuff they don't exist, you're a loony all that nonsense).

I was just wondering if anybody on this forum has had a GENUINE UFO experience big or small.

I will be fasinated to read some of your replys if you have.

My uncle david has had a genuine UFO experience.

The craft seemed to be observing him as it came down very low and hovered over him as if to study him then in the blink of an eye it shot off and dissapeared.

People laughed at him and said that he saw a helecopter.

Yeah right!.

The craft made no sound, since when has anybody heard of a silent helecopter?.

Also it was very low and right above him surely he would have felt the downdraught from the rotor blades, but he felt nothing.

And i'd like to see a helecopter move that fast, it was gone in a second.

So if any of you have had any encounters please feel free to respond.

But remember i do take this subject very seriously and i would be grateful if only people who have had genuine experiences respond.

Thank you.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the alien theory never made any sense to me.

first of all the nearest star is over 4 light years away. even if someone was to master travel at 99.9999% the speed of light it would take over 4 years for them to get here. and what do they do after 4 years of travel? buzz around a bit in their ufo and then head back for tea?

that doesn't really make sense now does it?

if you were to travel at least for 4 years to a distant planet would you not stop off and announce your presence to someone important other than a few country hicks that you shove implants into?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What i think is that they must have some sort of highly advanced propultion system built into their craft, whitch may permit travel across space at incredible speed allowing them to get here in a very short space of time.

Don't forget we are talking about technology that is far in advance of anything that the earth has........or offically has, unoffically i'm not so sure.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

faster than light travel breaks some very fundamental laws of physics, no matter how advanced the technology those laws still remain.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe thoose laws do not apply in a space enviroment, after all they woudn't know anything about our laws of physics.

Or maybe our own scientists have gone wrong somewhere along the line and missed or overlooked something that would permit faster then light speed travel.

Something that the ET's have discoverd and have known for ages.

Perhaps we need to completely relook at our sciences in relation to these craft.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Maybe thoose laws do not apply in a space enviroment, after all they woudn't know anything about our laws of physics. "

of course they apply in a space environment. and their not "our" laws of physics, they're universal.

"Or maybe our own scientists have gone wrong somewhere along the line and missed or overlooked something that would permit faster then light speed travel."

anything traveling faster than the speed of light would totally break einstein's theories which have been proven.

"Perhaps we need to completely relook at our sciences in relation to these craft."

it should be the other way around.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i can't help thinking that if these craft demonstrate these abilitys that to us are impossible to acheive.

Then our science is somehow incorrect or flawed in someway.

And we need to rethink but i'm not sure in what area.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or the idea of UFO's or at least your view of their nature, origin and/or mechanics of the craft is flawed.

probably more likely than relativity being wrong.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i do asume some things about UFO's.

I do assume that they come from another planet in the universe and are constructed by the ET's.

And you must not dismiss the possibility that something is wrong in the science world.

To do so would be to limit the scope of possibilitys and possibly prevent further discoverys in deciphering the technology of these craft.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that only works if you think you have a better chance of being right than some very well proven science.

i'm going to hedge my bets on the science thank you very much.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe.

But what i'm trying to say is that it is best to keep all you options and possibilitys open.

Rule nothing out.

Don't block off any avenues of exploration or you could in doing so block off the answer.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

relativity being disproved is an impossibility, it has been proven beyond doubt. scientists use it's results everyday.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the first time i agree with Lockerbie.
There is no such thing as UFO's or aliens.

Part of the plot of the New World Order boys is they want us to believe in aliens. They have a plan to stage a false flag alien invasion incident and use this as a springboard to declare a world government and marshall law throughout the world.

Basically the lies you are being told today about muslims will pail into insignificance compared to the lies about aliens they plan to tell you soon.

They lied to you about going to the moon. They lied about so many things and aliens is part of that. why so many programmes on tv about witchcraft and aliens?
Most haunted live?
Star trek?
They want you to believe in falsehoods so they can keep fxxking us over and over again. If they can sell you the emperours new clothes, then why wouldn't they come back and sell you a pair of the emperours boxer sharts and a set of matching socks too?
Do you get me?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the alien theory never made any sense to me.

first of all the nearest star is over 4 light years away. even if someone was to master travel at 99.9999% the speed of light it would take over 4 years for them to get here. and what do they do after 4 years of travel? buzz around a bit in their ufo and then head back for tea?

that doesn't really make sense now does it?

if you were to travel at least for 4 years to a distant planet would you not stop off and announce your presence to someone important other than a few country hicks that you shove implants into?


Light speed is old hat.

They bend the fabric of space/time and arrive instantaneously. This cannot always be done within a certain distance of a planetary system as it can disrupt things - so vehicles have to travel by light-speed to get to an agreed distance where the space/time jump co-ordinates can be activated.

This has been described in the literature since the 1950s.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"They bend the fabric of space/time and arrive instantaneously. "

that is the equivalent of a gravitational effect. and we would be very quick to notice.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stelios wrote:
For the first time i agree with Lockerbie.
There is no such thing as UFO's or aliens.

Part of the plot of the New World Order boys is they want us to believe in aliens. They have a plan to stage a false flag alien invasion incident and use this as a springboard to declare a world government and marshall law throughout the world.


And you've fallen for the propaganda that is linked to the Alien False Flag Agenda. Just because there is the possibility that the alien card will be used to

-weaponise space
- stage a synthetic terror like coup d'tat

...it doesn't mean life on other planets is also a myth.

This is the exact type of linear thinking that "they" want people to have.

ie: create a scenario and induce a reaction so people think along singular lines - resulting in either/or information processing. Job done - because they frame the debate in the first place.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louise wrote:
Maybe.

But what i'm trying to say is that it is best to keep all you options and possibilitys open.

Rule nothing out.

Don't block off any avenues of exploration or you could in doing so block off the answer.



Unfortunately Louise you'll find that even though we're still no nearer having a clue what really went on on september 11th - a fair few ppl who post on this forum and other boards are pretty closed minded when it comes to considering broader areas.

This would be kind of funny if we weren't meant to be the leading edge of alternative research.

I cheer myself up by thinking that the more open-minded just don't bother with forums so we get a skewed view of things. It's those in stubborn denial that tend to post profusely and do little research for themselves if you notice.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"They bend the fabric of space/time and arrive instantaneously. "

that is the equivalent of a gravitational effect. and we would be very quick to notice.


This just backs up the point I made above ^^^^^

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no it doesn't.

because if some alien form was to travel by bending space time it would be far from stealthy and we would know all about it. and so everyone would know all about aliens.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lockerbie wrote:
no it doesn't.

because if some alien form was to travel by bending space time it would be far from stealthy and we would know all about it. and so everyone would know all about aliens.


Yes, those in power would just announce we,ve been visited, they would never cover a visitation up now would they.

All those ufo reports, well its just swamp gas, now move along.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been reviewing Lockerie's posts. He hasn't broken any rules however the nature of his posts lead me to conclude that his intention here is to distrupt this forum. This is a subjective judgement but I believe a sound one.

Lockerbie you can contact me by email if you wish to convince me that I have misjudged you. However in the meantime I am suspending your account.
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