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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm I wonder if Executive Order 13575 has something to do with it.

Brazil or 1984 anyone?

http://vimeo.com/21351829

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Life wrote:
So, in line with the above Mikado video, and the fact through the schools they are corporate programming the children, continued through the work programmes....what do you make of the following video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0brcZTVde-I

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phone Home Smile and don't wing the wong number-s Sad happy slave peter joseph's, the "spirit of the age" atheism - and mother earth, great mother of all and united from up their Uranus (the sky)Her equivalent in the Roman pantheon was Terra, and don't rob my life force, y icke s
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"Long Live the Georgia Guidestones"

Listen to this guy try and justify it, and he is sincere.


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The New Age theosophy utopia meme (spiritual and/or, even atheist meme.)

That if we all come together, that is the only way to spiritually get off the planet, “spiritually” and those that don't go along with it will prevent those that do go along with it and must be rid of, and are dangerous to those that do go along with it. Also people who won’t connect to that “spiritually” part, are told that the planet can’t support 6 billion people because of all the pollution that we are causing and the old new world order are intentionally causing it with unnecessary industrial use to show people that it can’t continue. Some so-called green movements (Friends of the earth, for example) buy into this atheist line and say there are to many people on the planet and “they the people” are to blame for this over industrial pollution, wars and such. So both groups in their varied and mixed types, are supporting the depopulation agenda and are sold the idea that it is necessary that some/many will have to go. Only half a billion left (Example: Georgia guide stones) so they will have all those resources, natural (some Gaia types) and/or some industry (Techno Venus project types) for sustainable use in abundance.

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Where there is NO individual spiritual salvation (or divine retribution.) In this New World Order awakening, consciousness shift, and change or transformation meme.

And people have to be convinced this is not possible:
That there is plenty to go around for 6 billion people or so, if we don’t pollute and waste, like most all do now and encouraged/forced to do now via false legislation.

And if people were responsible, even spiritually responsible, having to many children would be a responsibility with wisdom sort willingly and population would not be a problem IF it became a problem.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disco_Destroyer wrote:
hmm I wonder if Executive Order 13575 has something to do with it.

Brazil or 1984 anyone?

http://vimeo.com/21351829


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In Brazil, we find a fictional society, overshadowed by the lack of freedom and the dependence of the bureaucracy, possibly an allegory of Brazilian society during the dictatorship of the 70s. The main character is Sam Lowry, who works for an office where information is processed and roles of bureaucracies. Sam has strange dreams with a woman and becomes involved with her dreamily. Dreams are portrayed in an original and very strange. This oddity is full of messages that can be interpreted in several ways. We can see that there are strong similarities with the world we live in and a future as this is not only possible but already exists in a certain way, from men addicted to a strange device, very similar to a television, even the elite ladies to spend to cosmetic surgery. This film is considered the masterpiece from Terry Gilliam, best known for his movies like 'Monty Python' and 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. "

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Em Brazil, encontramos uma sociedade fictícia, ofuscada pela falta de liberdade e pela dependência da burocracia, possivelmente uma alegoria à sociedade Brasileira durante a ditadura da década de 70. O personagem principal é Sam Lowry, que trabalha para um escritório onde são processadas informações e papeis de burocracias. Sam tem sonhos estranhos com uma mulher e se envolve com ela oniricamente. Os sonhos são retratados de uma forma original e muito estranha. Essa estranheza é carregada de mensagens que podem ser interpretadas de varias formas. Podemos perceber que existem fortes semelhanças com o mundo onde vivemos e que um futuro como esse não só é possível como já existe de certa maneira, desde os homens viciados em um aparelho estranho, muito semelhante com uma televisão, até madames da elite que gastam para fazer cirurgias estéticas. Este filme é considerado a obra prima de Terry Gilliam, mais conhecido por seus outros filmes como "Monty Python" e "Medo e Delírio em Lãs Vegas".


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Enlarge : http://www.flickr.com/photos/50295603@N02/6197596826/in/photostream/li ghtbox/

As we continue the case against the Jobcentre plus and DWP, the findings are startling.

A taster :

South East of England comes under Seetec and A4e, thus those coming under the mandatory and Work programme in these areas are to be programmed directly by Police Intelligence and its G4s.

South West of England and Wales come under Rehab, as such you softie lot will be rehabilitated by Neptune. Sounds groovy don't it, but of course we are speaking of the Committee of 300 psychopathic families, the rehab is all medical....think Anti-Humans and you are getting it.

The Midlands East and West come under ESG Holdings and the main demonic enterprise being Auditors, Deloitte (Pricewaterhousecoopers) coming out of the Worshipful Company of Weavers, or the Livery Companies.

Yorkshire and Humber come under BEST who offer very scant information as to their MO, so you Yorkshiremen and your fate is secret, or is it? Think Astors, think Cameron's missis...and you can guess the rest, but I will give insight :

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"The Directors are still hopeful in 2010/2011 of seeing a small rise in turnover and profits as the unemployment figures continue to rise"

Hyenas at the gates Yorkshire and you can't come over our border any more they have coppers there wi guns and stuff.

North East (Northumbria) as the fiefdom of the Rothschild family of the psychotic, and being all about their funny money and according to Natalie Bracht, fake jews are us Inc, comes under Ingeus Deloitte.

The North West and those foreigner Jocks come under JHP, the Pitman family, which given my case is due to the actions of this families minions, I don't like them.

Great Britain broke up into regions of programming with the South Western softies seemingly getting the attention of the Frankensteins, not a bad idea at all really, but before we get excited, it needs to be understood that all of the above via their subsiduary small fry are all over the shop in every region, so we are all getting it.

Did you know the DWP board , that would be Work and Pensions, is made up of medical Frankensteins with the exception of one who is with the Police, and who sits atop this den of inequity....?



Ian Duncan Smith


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Mandatory Work Activity' covers the whole of the UK, and the 'Invitations to Tender' indicates some interesting and odd behaviour on the part of providers.

A4e Ltd provide their 'Mandatory Work Activity delivery' from premises where no CRB check is required.

From A4e Ltd 'Invitation to Tender'

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• RBLI: Providing Catering and Warehouse placements, RBLI is an organisation involved in providing employment related services e.g. placement brokerage to anyone with a disability or health condition, particularly those in the ex-service community in Kent
Through extensive links, Placement Co-ordinators (PC) are able to facilitate placements at short notice. All placements will be pre-vetted by the PCs to ensure that CRB checks are not required.


An image of Rehab Jobfit's Mobile Training Unit: (to make sure they can get complete geographical coverage, as required in the DWP specification,) in Wales and west of England complete with computers:




Enlarge: http://www.flickr.com/photos/50295603@N02/6197443433/in/photostream/li ghtbox/

They also ring their 'customers' who are to commence 'Mandatory Work Activity' to 'calm their nerves'.



Enlarge: http://www.flickr.com/photos/50295603@N02/6197443473/in/photostream/li ghtbox/

Presumably the 'pre-booked 20 minute telephone appointment' which some providers offer during the 'ten day engagement period' prior to taking up 'Mandatory Work Activity' would make rather interesting listening.

Considerate of the providers to make sure child-care is arranged for those who go out on 'Mandatory Work Activity'. Interesting that the providers receive the personal data of their 'customers' from Job Centre Plus, via PraP, (provider referrals and payments) and that PraP payments (on outcome) which are received by providers is considered to be 'commercially sensitive'. PraP data, which is sent from Job Centre Plus, includes all contact details (mobile number, land line, address, email address) as well as disability details, carer details, children, signing arrangements at Job Centre Plus, as well as history of signing on at Job Centre Plus. (Advice is that people DO NOT sign their personal data over to providers; you may get an interesting phone call at some time in the future). However, when the 'outcome' for not doing so is having benefits cut, very many people are in a completely compromised position.)

Some of us are also curious to know what 'personal equipment' is provided, and why this is part of the 'Mobilisation Plans', which went live a couple of months ago for all providers.

(DWP are required by law to publish any contract over £10,000. So far only the 'Invitation to Tenders' have been found. This is the same with the 'Work Programme' documentation, totalling £3,314,150,805 from the European Social Fund).

(Although this story is rather much more than merely a story about 'pigs at the trough'.)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



The startling facts coming to light as relating to the Mandatory Work Program, specifically in the Yorkshire - Humber region, which in the +1 post above, I presented the fact information was scant, we find a lot of mental health charities including the latest big mind to be pushed on the TV, Steven Fry, who is president of the charity MIND, it is big in Yorkshire.

The Royal Mencap are also playing a big part in the re-programming of Yorkshire, as is the Princes Trust. They approach all who come into their web as challenged, handicapped in some way. This relates to anyone who is failing to take on the programming, which is to be confronted via the above and others from the standpoint...we will fix you.

Best, the Work Programme provider for this area are the only provider to redact the name of their parent company in documentation available. We do know of a company; BEST Holdings Ltd, to be found at the same address.
AIT Ltd are also to be found at the same address :

BEST : http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/business-employment-services-tra ining
BEST Holdings Ltd : http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/best-holdings
AIT Ltd : http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/ait-yorkshire

AIT is far more revealing than the corporation itself gives up, it has an esoteric frequency just out of sight, and further expresses the symbolism found in the Coldplay video :

An ait (or eyot) is a small island. It is especially used to refer to islands found on the River Thames and its tributaries in England.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ait

The Princes Trust seems to be aiming at the 18-24 age group, a ripe time for programming and recruitment.

If you look at the following video, specifically from 2.13, take note of the buildings in the background as the line; : "lights will guide you home", is sang.

Is that Shell Mex / Adelphi and the John Adam Street Gang?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Playing with a Great Hand

So according to the Spielberg chle; Chris Martin, and his merry men, the lights to guide us home are those shining bright from the John Adam Street Gang's HQ, Adelphi / Shell Mex, or, the peak of imperial corporatism, not belonging to Britain.

This is a clear expression of a will, not of the people, but the families who are the benefactors to the corporate hell.
I think we need to be reminded of a few missed facts, in order we can fix as the overriding premice from which we operate when moving to actually make the shift to bring what we desire. We need to grasp the super opportunity we have right now in the turmoil of the financial facade created by the elite of the 300 families.

Tax Take per annum (Great Britain) :

VAT : £90.3 billion
Total Take : £486 billion

We have the situation :

A 25 billion shortfall in tax take from Britain's biggest companies, so this figure is far greater.
Corporations carry massive debt in order they pay no tax
subdivisions of all the big corporate, take charitable status and pay no tax
Our entire civil system has been captured by the corporate.

The above information presents the fact, the 486 billion tax take current in this nation is coming from you and I, the people. This means we have absolutely no reason to consider for a moment the life or death issues as it relates to any and all corporations, including the banks. They are not the ones funding this nation in any way, they are the bodies enriched by all our tax revenue as they remove the services we pay the tax for.

This means the 486 billion tax take as an existing figure cannot be demolished as it comes from us, and remains with us. However; they have a hold over this figure while the corporate crown via its Corporate Ministry of Justice, supports all outsourced contracts in law against the rights of the British realm.

The aim of all governments, let us say post WWII, though it goes as you know much further back, has been to allow the state capture by the corporate contract of our civil systems, ensuring our system is dependent upon the corporate just to run the domestic needs. This in turn places the entire tax take under their command as they are in control of the hike in costs to the taxpayer, thus forcing the demand upon government to borrow.

This allows the elites to devalue our currency turning the 486 billion into 486 quid down the line, which in turn leaves the corporate in control of everything because they have become everything. They are also demolishing the power of our currency by fixing it in position of liability for the debt of the corporations.

Kill the Corporate contracts, our tax take becomes free, we become free, devaluation of our currency will cease.

Unjust Enrichment of the corporate at the Expense of the Taxpayers.

Do you see this opportunity?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have put together an account with nothing other than Mandatory Work Programme and Work Programme documents. We have numbered them so you can see for yourself which documents have been removed :

http://www.scribd.com/Work_Programme_DWP

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All documents on accounts as follows:

Mandatory Work Activity:


All documents uploaded on the internet by DWP at this location:
http://www.youpublish.com/people/81980/limit:30/page:1/sort:Publicatio n.title/direction:asc

Flickr image account (indicates the obsession with redactions):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68614769@N07/

Spread sheet summary of documents:

http://issuu.com/mandatory-work-activity/docs

Work Programme:

DWP documents:

http://www.scribd.com/Work_Programme_DWP

Spreadsheets:

http://issuu.com/work_programme_dwp/docs


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atos, best friend of Prime Providers who run ‘supply chains’ around the UK, (Mandatory Work Activity and the Work Programme) will ensure the supply chains are well fed, with all those on Incapacity Benefit being assessed by Atos across the UK within the next few years, and very many expected to be moved into a ‘work programme’ of some sort. Seems a few of us have missed something. (Although with at least one academy school inthe UK built on top of underground cells, I suppose it should not come as a surprise).

‘Arbeit Macht Frei’ - "Work sets you free"






The meaning of the word ‘Atos’ (Greek):


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Mount Athos is situated in the entire third, eastern and most beautiful peninsula of Halkidiki, called the peninsula of Athos. It is the only place in Greece that is completely dedicated to prayer and worship of God.

For this reason, it is called the Holy Mount.

The Holy Mount is about 50 Km in length, 8 to 12 Km in width and it covers an area of about 350 square kilometers.

The borders of the monasterial city are defined on the ground by an imaginary line that starts from the location "FRAGOKASTRO" in the West coast and reaches the cape "ARAPIS" in the opposite end.

The natural beauty of the peninsula is extraordinary. The highest point of Mount Athos is like a huge cone, reaching 2033 metres in height. It’s a naked, treeless crest that seems to lance the sky and its slopes are fully covered by ancient evergreens. All these help to create an area of incomparable natural beauty.

The Holy Mount is a self- governed part of the Greek state, subject to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in its political aspect and to the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinopole as regards its religious aspect.

It has been divided into twenty self- governed territories. Each territory consists of a cardinal monastery and some other monastic establishments that surround it (cloisters, cells, cottages, seats, hermitages).

All the monasteries are communes (of a convent nature) which means that there is common liturgy, prayer, housing, nourishing and work among the monks. The Superior of the monastery, being elected by the monks for life, is responsible for the affairs of the monastery. The Superiors of the monasteries are members of the Holy Assembly and exercise legislative authority.

Moreover, every year the monastery elects its representative to the Holy Community which exercises administrative authority, while the Holy Supervision exercises executive authority and consists of 4 members, elected by the 5 hierarchically preceding monasteries.

Mythology
According to mythology the name Athos belongs to a Thracian giant. During the conflict between the Gods and the Giants, Athos threw a huge rock against Poseidon (the God), but the rock slipped through his fingers and fell to the sea creating a huge block of land which is now Mount Athos.

In a different version it was Poseidon who threw the rock against Athos. The rock crushed Athos and buried him underneath. This rock was called Mount Athos.

According to tradition, the Virgin Mary with John the Evangelist, or their way to visit Lazarus in Cyprus, encountered a stormy sea that forced them to temporarily seek refuge in the port which is now the Holy Monastery of Ivira. The Virgin Mary, admiring the wild beauty of the place, asked God to give her the mountain as a present. Then the voice of our Lord was heard saying: "Let this place be your lot, your garden and your paradise, as well as a salvation, a haven for those who seek salvation". Since then, Mount Athos is considered as "The Garden of the Virgin Mary.

In the 5th century AD, the first monks came to Mount Athos, who disappointed from the boredom of everyday communal life, found this beautiful and uninhabited place ideal for worship their God.

In Greek, Mount Athos is Agion Oros. In Serbian, we say Atos (without the” th” sound found in the English pronunciation).


from: http://trifunovici.blogspot.com/2007/12/explaining-atos.html

(Although the Atos who drives the supply chains may not refer to any God we might like to be associated with).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another point worth noting is the plethora of redactions on the 'Invitation to Tender' documents for both the 'Mandatory Work Activity' and the 'Work Programme.'

Clearly, if you want to know who is culpable for setting up this 'supply chain' machine, on account of the redacted names, signatures, contact details and addresses, there is no-one there.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I want the suspenders on.... but caz might be on the right track with her above post :


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a video with a twist.... Who is Harry Beckhough?

Incorporating Great Britain by Subterfuge


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the above video the man encouraging UKIP, Brian Gerrish, and as the video shows clearly, David Cameron, changed his name by deed poll in 1949 from Beckhoff-Coburg to Beckhough.

There are two choices as to origin of the name Beckhoff, the video shows a document with Russian origin for the man himself, yet many forums and such speak of Beckhoff being German.

Neither would be acceptable, because what it presents is the possibility old Harry is either full blown Nazi or serious Zionist, or more probable...both

Research achieved thus far is not looking good for old Harry, but more importantly, the country as a whole.

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In the above video the man encouraging UKIP, Brian Gerrish, and as the video shows clearly, David Cameron, changed his name by deed poll in 1949 from Beckhoff-Coburg to Beckhough.

There are two choices as to origin of the name Beckhoff, the video shows a document with Russian origin for the man himself, yet many forums and such speak of Beckhoff being German.

Neither would be acceptable, because what it presents is the possibility old Harry is either full blown Nazi or serious Zionist, or more probable...both

Research achieved thus far is not looking good for old Harry, but more importantly, the country as a whole.

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Far more revealing is this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_David_Cameron


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But they play this race game so tightly, where many Ashkenazi Jews pretend they are Jews (Judah) and where many Jews (Judah) pretend they are not. As revealed by many works, William Shakespeare, Lewis Carroll, for example.


Beware of the Jubjub bird. Not many know old Manx Gaelic.

Excerpt:
Quote:
"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is interesting Andrew, but I think possibly more important at this point would be to understand who Harry Beckhough is, what is his real allegiance, and to what extent this Marlborough set has influence upon or political machine.

New York Perth amboy is implicated, which is a long standing Scottish noneconformist power centre.

Thus the importance of my ramblings about the methodist model

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It is interesting Andrew, but I think possibly more important at this point would be to understand who Harry Beckhough is, what is his real allegiance, and to what extent this Marlborough set has influence upon or political machine.

New York Perth amboy is implicated, which is a long standing Scottish noneconformist power centre.

Thus the importance of my ramblings about the methodist model

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I disagree there is more here than what you have brought up. And

"But they play this race game so tightly, where many Ashkenazi Jews pretend they are Jews (Judah) and where many Jews (Judah) pretend they are not. As revealed by many works, William Shakespeare, Lewis Carroll, for example."

As for the "methodist model" same with all organised religions and so-called New Age ones. humo luminus or whatever.

Quote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_David_Cameron
Ancestors in finance

Cameron's forebears have a long history in finance. His father Ian was senior partner of the stockbrokers Panmure Gordon, in which firm partnerships had long been held by Cameron's ancestors, including David's grandfather and great-grandfather,[6] and was a director of estate agent John D Wood. His great-great grandfather Emile Levita, a German-Jewish financier who obtained British citizenship in 1871, was the director of the Chartered Bank of India, Australia and China which became Standard Chartered Bank in 1969.[17] His wife, Cameron's great-great grandmother, was a descendant of the wealthy Danish Jewish Rée family.[18][19] One of Emile's sons, Arthur Francis Levita (d.1910) (brother of Sir Cecil Levita),[20] of Panmure Gordon stockbrokers, together with great-great-grandfather Sir Ewen Cameron,[21] London head of the Hongkong and Shanghai Bank, played key roles in arranging loans supplied by the Rothschilds to the Japanese central banker (later Prime Minister) Takahashi Korekiyo for the financing of the Japanese Government in the Russo-Japanese war.[22] Another great-grandfather, Ewen Allan Cameron, was senior partner of Panmure Gordon stockbrokers and served on the Council for Foreign Bondholders,[23] and the Committee for Chinese Bondholders (set up by the then-Governor of the Bank of England Montagu Norman in November 1935).[24]
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so we are speaking of crypto-Jews and not Judaism before the 4th century implementation of the Talmud.

It would seem we can better understand why the big hu ha over the Holocaust, tied as it is to Judaism, then to become crypto-Jew is the perfect cover for the movements of the Rothschild s and others for the 20th century right up to present.

So how then do we sideline the Jew issue to allow full exposure of these psychopaths? they are so tied together

As for Methodism as like other religions, I would disagree in the most profound manner.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original Methodists broke from the Illuminati controlled Church of England
Your demonising of honest decent people is o utterly pointless as to be verging on being deliberate disruptive.

Methodists ar not even a part of the problem -

Why is it so impossible for you to focus on and aim at the resal baddies???

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You surprise me there T, if you are of the mind I aim this reality upon day to day people, I am sure I made that plain in an earlier post.

The Evangelical system itself is the main British network under which they are fixing the stranglehold on the social system. I present the information as a warning to those who are still of the mind the institution is sound, because from what I have seen formulated in their own maneuvers, whether they like it or not, the charitable trusts and enterprise within the Evangelical umbrella will play a part in what is looking more and more like a serious human labour camp via all things Jobcentre and Work Programmes.

Not to mention what is going on within the disabled community.

The question would thus be, should one let things go on without bringing unpalatable truths to those who in truth are the first victims of what is unleashing, the Methodist Christians, for they are going to see landed at their feet should it suit the madmen at the top, blame by unwitting connection to what is being set fourth.

I work on the premise, the truth will set some free instantly, for others it brings that which they have failed to see, in front of their path, if they can pass that then they too become free.

So the truth is the only answer in all situations at all times, period.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suggest you attend a Methodist service next Sunday - you'll find things rather different.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take your point, but I have no problem for it to be known that I take sustenance from many sources, specific churches, places and people. But I tend to enjoy the solace of such places, to connect with the ancestral spirit of these lands.

My church is the earth, the forests, the rivers , the lakes and the oceans. if the wind blows north i will follow it, should it turn west , i will move west.

The power of this nation comes from the land, if you are cut off from the voice of nature, you are cut off.....

I enjoy the company of old skool C of E, the catholics, old skool muslims and jews. I have also met some great Evangelical ministers, one in particular who last year held the service for my father, and yes he was a Methodist.

we are at a time when all institutions are corrupted, but fail to remember the people are the institution, so where you go your faith goes. it is a time of shedding the old skins to be reborn anew, not as separate beliefs, books, and heroes, its about shared morality and structure.

i think it is time people let go the old and come together in the new, labels are divisive, we are all man and lucky to be on a beautiful island where if we do come together, we can achieve the aim and protect it.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.methodist.org.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=opentogod.bibleStudy& studydate=2011-10-16
Matthew 22:15-22

"Give therefore to the emperor that things that are the emperor's. and to God the things that are God's." (v. 21


"My church is the earth, the forests, the rivers , the lakes and the oceans. if the wind blows north i will follow it, should it turn west , i will move west."

Who owns the Land? Cesar or God who says it should be shared for no money as His guests.

Religions only exist in people minds; there are those who follow the Commandments and those who don't. Very few do.

Nowhere in the Bible does it justify taxes, regardless of what organised religions say.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a website - not a service
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America

Hedges' title comes from a prediction by his Harvard ethics professor, James Luther Adams, who 25 years earlier had warned his students that they would all be fighting the "Christian fascists". Hedges argues that this prediction has come true in that extreme forms of American Christianity now share many features with totalitarian movements, including suppression of individuality, a belief in magic, a shifting ideology, a "binary" good-or-evil view of the world, and a deep intolerance of people outside the movement. He writes that "Christian radicals" are often so consumed with power and wealth they are no longer practicing Christianity in its traditional sense, as a religion focused on compassion and caring for the downtrodden.

He contrasts the fundamentalist understanding with that of his own, where the Bible is recognized to have contradictory, and even hateful passages, and scientifically, is simply limited to what people knew at the time. For example, according to Hedges, ‘Genesis was not written to explain the process of creation, of which these writers knew nothing. It was written to help explain the purpose of creation...to help us grasp a spiritual truth, not a scientific or historical fact.’ Hedges says that doubt and belief are not, as biblical literalists claim, incompatible…and those who act without any doubt are frightening.

He starts out the book with a definition of fascism and a discussion of its characteristics from Umberto Eco entitled Eternal Fascism:Fourteen ways of Looking at a Blackshirt.[4] These fourteen characteristics of fascism are as follows; The Cult of Tradition, The Rejection of Modernism, The Cult of Action for Action’s Sake, Disagreement as Treason, Fear of Difference, The Main Privilege is to Be Born in the Same Country, The Followers Must be Humiliated by the Wealth and Force of their Enemies, Life is Lived For Struggle, Contempt For the Weak, Everybody is Educated to Become a Hero, Disdain for Women and Condemnation for Non Standard Sexuality, Respect for the Majority and Disdain for Individualism, Respect for Impoverished Vocabulary and Elementary Syntax in Order to Limit Complex and Critical Reasoning. Hedges states that the "American Fascists"... ’ask us to hand over moral choice and responsibility to them. They will tell us what is right and wrong in the eyes of God. They tell us how to act, how to live, and in this process they elevate themselves above us. They remove the anxiety of moral choice, the fundamental anxiety of human existence. This is part of their attraction.’ He talks about ‘Dominionism’ which, he says, is central to their belief system. According to Hedges, Dominionism states that God gave human beings total dominion over all of creation. It stems from Genesis 1:26-31. The Dominionists, Hedges says, state that there is ‘only one way to be a Christian and only one way to be an American.’ He states that ‘Dominionism seeks to politicize faith’. and to promote ‘leadership adulation’. and a ‘call for moral and physical supremacy of a master race, in this case American Christians’ . He continues to say that Dominionists control, ‘at least six national television networks, {wherein} each reach tens of millions of homes, and virtually all of the nations more than 2,000 religious radio stations, as well as the Southern Baptist Convention.’ .

Hedges states that Dominionism ‘teaches that American Christians have been mandated by God to make America a Christian state.’ . They oppose labor unions, and public schools. They believe that women should be removed from the workforce and that the federal government should be ‘reduced to the protection of property rights and home land security.’ They oppose homosexuality. They oppose the teaching of evolution. They oppose [multiculturalism] and secular humanism and abortion. They dismiss the threats of global warming and overpopulation. Their opponents are portrayed to be agents of satan. He states that the current movement draws significantly from Calvin's Institutes of the Christian Religion. He states that The Institutes of Biblical Law by R. J. Rushdoony has been a more recent source of inspiration for the Dominionists. The power that evangelicals have is significant because ‘there are at least 70 million evangelicals in the United States’. and polls indicate that as many as 100 million Americans believe ‘in the Bible as the actual word of God.’ Tyson Foods, Wal-Mart, and Sam’s Wholesale are strong backers of the movement.’ and he states that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is ‘steeped in this ideology’. Additionally, ‘Christian fundamentalists now hold a majority of seats in 36 percent of all Republican Party state committees’ and ‘Forty-five senators and 186 members of the House of Representatives’. earned high approval ratings from the Christian Coalition, the Eagle Forum, and the Family Resource Council. ‘They preach that at the end of history Christians will dominate the earth and that all nonbelievers, including those who are not sufficiently Christian will be cast into torment and outer darkness. They call for the destruction of whole cultures, nations, and religions, those they have defined as the enemies of God. ’ Hedges writes that many of the followers are victims of what he calls "The Culture of despair" resulting from dislocation and an economic disparity that has hit the American working class especially hard. In some parts of the country, Hedges writes, radical churches offer people a sense of belonging that was once found in the greater community. New converts are surrounded by new friends, he writes, but also live under a rigid set of rules that require unquestioning submission. The book describes various places and events of the Christian right that Hedges has researched. They include; the 50,000-square-foot (4,600 m2) Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky; a Love Won Out conference in Boston sponsored by Focus on the Family; an Evangelism Explosion seminar he attended; a speaking event held by Rod Parsley in Washington; a conference he attended at the Gilead Baptist Church; the National Religious Broadcasters annual convention in Anaheim; and Trinity Broadcasting Network's lavish headquarters in Costa Mesa, California. He discusses the significance of the Left Behind books written by Timothy LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hedges

I think it very pertinent to remember here, that although the Scofield Bible was birthed in Britain under the Theosophical light, it took root in the US and became the new creed Puritan ethos for the 20th century.

It did not take hold amongst the Cof E flocks and clergy, but was taken on by the Aristocracy and high level Bishops.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further paranoia from lifeinthemix (on his own website)

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fraud against the British realm was finalised in 1936 the time of the Nazi Olympics, when George VI took an unlawful and therefore treasonous oath at what was a fake Coronation to hold the office of British Monarch.

http://lifeinthemix2.co.uk/galactic_alignment.html

In this move alone the entire British realm was stolen by those that control what would become Vatican II, (the Carolingian's) and is today being thrust down the throats of all religions as the source of Christian doctrine. Vatican II is not Catholicism, it is the Anti-Thesis.

It is also interesting to find that it was the Archbishop of Cantebury Cosmo Lang who removed Edward VII to allow George VI to pretence of British monarch :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmo_Lang

And what did they do from that time :
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http://www.dawn.com/news/783530/transfer-of-power-and-jinnah[/url]

Onward Christian Soldiers........Mmm, find me any doctrine of Jesus that would even suggest such.



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