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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malaysia hosts the Southeast Asia Regional Center for Counterterrorism (SEARCCT), where over 2000 officials from various countries have received training. The United States is among the foreign countries that has collaborated with the center in conducting capacity building programmes. The U.S. and Malaysia share a strong military-to-military relationship with numerous exchanges, training, joint exercises, and visits.

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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH 370 may have been hacked in the world’s first “cyber-hijack,” claims a British anti-terrorism expert.

Former Home Office scientific adviser Sally Leivesley said that hijackers may have changed the plane’s speed, direction, and altitude via radio signals to the plane’s flight management system, reported the Sydney Morning Herald.

The plane could have then been crashed or landed, Leivesley continued, according to the Herald, which cited the Sunday Express newspaper in London.

Leivesley’s theory is one of many as to what happened to the missing plane, which had 239 people on board. It hasn’t been seen or heard from since March 8 when it was flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

Malaysian officials said over the weekend that the plane’s disappearance was a deliberate act, and police started searching the homes of the jet’s pilot and co-pilot.

Leivesley said that she believes malicious codes could have overcome the plane’s security.

“This is a very early version of what I would call a smart plane, a fly-by-wire aircraft controlled by electronic signals,” she said. “There appears to be an element of planning from someone with a very sophisticated systems engineering understanding,” she added.

Leivesley continued: “It is looking more and more likely that the control of some systems was taken over in a deceptive manner, either manually, so someone sitting in a seat overriding the autopilot, or via a remote device turning off or overwhelming the systems.

“A mobile phone could have been used to do so or a USB stick. When the plane is air-side, you can insert a set of commands and codes that may initiate, on signal, a set of processes.”

Leivesley told the paper that she was notified of this kind of hacking threat last year while at a conference. “What we are finding now is that it is possible with a mobile phone to initiate a signal to a preset piece of malicious software, or malware, in the computer that initiates a whole set of instructions,’’ she said.

“It is possible for hackers — be they part of organised crime or with government backgrounds — to get into the main computer network of the plane through the inflight, onboard entertainment system,” she continued.

In 2013, at the Hack in the Box conference, security researcher Hugo Teso went on stage and took out his phone. He accessed an app, Planesploit, that he coded himself, which he said could affect a plane’s navigation systems.

Teso, who is a researcher, said that he could theoretically change a plane’s route and make it crash with the app. He reportedly did a demonstration on stage to show that systems on board planes are vulnerable.

But U.S. air regulators said that his app wasn’t possible.

“The hacking technique described during a recent computer security conference does not pose a flight safety concern because it does not work on certified flight hardware. The described technique cannot engage or control the aircraft’s autopilot system using the FMS or prevent a pilot from overriding the autopilot. Therefore, a hacker cannot obtain ‘full control of an aircraft’ as the technology consultant has claimed,” the FAA said, according to Net-Security.

And the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) downplayed Teso’s findings, saying that embedded software has a “robustness that is not present on ground-based simulation software.”

Rockwell Collins wrote a commentary for Forbes that said, “Today’s certified avionics systems are designed and built with high levels of redundancy and security,” adding that Teso’s research “involves testing with virtual aircraft in a lab environment, which is not analogous to certified aircraft and systems operating in regulated airspace.”

Trend Micro, a security company, said in October 2013 that “vulnerabilities” have been “discovered in global vessel tracking systems.”

“Trend Micro researchers have discovered that flaws in the [Automatic Identification System]AIS vessel tracking system can allow attackers to hijack communications of existing vessels, create fake vessels, trigger false SOS or collision alerts and even permanently disable AIS tracking on any vessel,” the firm wrote.

The AIS is a “a mandatory vessel tracking system for all commercial (non-fishing) ships over 300 metric tons, as well as passenger ships (regardless of size and weight). AIS works by acquiring GPS coordinates and exchanging a vessel’s position, course and information with nearby ships and offshore installations. It is currently installed in around 400,000 vessels.”

AIS, it says, is but one example of “a mandatory vessel tracking system for all commercial (non-fishing) ships over 300 metric tons, as well as passenger ships (regardless of size and weight). AIS works by acquiring GPS coordinates and exchanging a vessel’s position, course and information with nearby ships and offshore installations. It is currently installed in around 400,000 vessels.”


http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/567692-malaysia-airlines-hacked-new-th eory-emerges-that-flight-mh-370-plane-suffered-cyber-attack-hijacking/

However more likely, the planes were hijacked using in-built secret hijacker-proofing mechanisms...

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=0041c1b9-d938 -4956-a88e-436c8fc8ba45&k=33368

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High-tech systems aspire to render airliners "hijack-proof"

The Boeing aircraft company has a Canadian patent pending for an anti-terrorist system that will automatically fly and land airliners if the flight crew is incapacitated or killed.

By CanWest News Service December 2, 2006



OTTAWA -- The Boeing aircraft company has a Canadian patent pending for an anti-terrorist system that will automatically fly and land airliners if the flight crew is incapacitated or killed.

The "uninterruptible" autopilot will be activated by pilots or co-pilots flipping a switch, by sensors that detect excessive force against locked cabin doors or remotely by officials on the ground.

Once initiated "no one on board is capable controlling the flight," say documents related to the patent application by U.S. Boeing, the world's largest manufacturer of commercial jetliners.

In Europe, too, work is progressing on another system to make planes "hijack-proof" to prevent a repeat of the Sept. 11, 2001 suicide hijackings of four U.S. jetliners. It includes installing ultra-sensitive microphones and cameras to monitor passengers in the cabin, digital fingerprints and iris scans for access to the cockpit, and an avoidance system to prevent planes crashing into buildings.

Both systems are intended to improve upon existing onboard security measures, such as fortified cabin doors and armed uncovered police escorts, neither of which are foolproof.

The Boeing system will have an independent and inaccessible power source and once engaged, will fly the plane to a landing site, avoiding any large populated areas along the way, presumably in the event of the aircraft blowing up.

Flightglobal.com, the website for Flight International magazine, says once activated, the system will refuse any further pilot inputs to reassume control of the plane. It will also prevent anyone on board from interrupting an emergency landing plan that can be predefined or radioed to the aircraft by airline or government controllers and carried out by the aircraft's guidance and control system.

Meanwhile, the European SAFEE project Security of Aircraft in the Future European Environment aims to create a series of technological innovations to prevent another Sept. 11, says project co-ordinator Daniel Gaultier.

The microphones, cameras and biometric scanners are designed to make hijacking an airliner in mid-flight virtually impossible. Not on the European list of safeguards, however, is one element of the Boeing system, of piloting planes from the ground by remote control.

Instead, the 31 companies participating in SAFEE, launched in 2004 by the European Commission, are looking at more viable alternatives. Airbus, BAE Systems, Thales, Sagem and NLR have each taken charge of one of five main initiatives.

In Hamburg, Germany, in August, Airbus carried out the first tests on its "threat detection system,"which warns the pilot of any suspicious behaviour by a passenger via a system of cameras and microphones. A full simulation is planned for January 2008.

Thales, meanwhile, is working on an anti-collision system to be tested in June 2007, Gaultier said.

Developing biometric fingerprinting to ensure that only crew members can enter the cockpit has been entrusted to Dutch firm NLR, which plans to test the system in August 2007 in Amsterdam.

A demonstration of the entire system is planned for February. After that, a new seven-year contract is expected to be signed to bring the project to completion.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You left the best 'til last I see Wink

http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/missing-malaysia-airlines-fli ght-could-have-fallen-victim-to-worlds-first-cyberhijack-20140316-hvji 3.html

Not a joke really though because crew and passengers and plane could all be being disappeared right now from a hangar in Diego Garcia or elsewhere

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A demonstration of the entire system is planned for February. After that, a new seven-year contract is expected to be signed to bring the project to completion.

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Did MH370 really land in the MALDIVES OR DIEGO GARCIA, 2 of 5 runways loaded inside pilot's home simulator?
http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id =246561:did-mh370-really-land-in-the-maldives-or-diego-garcia-2-of-5-r unways-loaded-inside-pilots-home-simulator?&Itemid=2

.......Still, the Maldives news is of particular note since earlier today, Haaveru Online, quoted locals who said they had seen a "low flying jet" whose description is approximate to what flight MH370 looked like. From the source:

Whilst the disappearance of the Boeing 777 jet, carrying 239 passengers has left the whole world in bewilderment, several residents of Kuda Huvadhoo told Haveeru on Tuesday that they saw a "low flying jumbo jet" at around 6:15am on March 8.

They said that it was a white aircraft, with red stripes across it – which is what the Malaysia Airlines flights typically look like.

Eyewitnesses from the Kuda Huvadhoo concurred that the aeroplane was travelling North to South-East, towards the Southern tip of the Maldives – Addu. They also noted the incredibly loud noise that the flight made when it flew over the island.

"I've never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We've seen seaplanes, but I'm sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly," said an eyewitness.

"It's not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the tremendous noise too."

A local aviation expert told Haveeru that it is "likely" for MH370 to have flown over the Maldives. The possibility of any aircraft flying over the island at the reported time is extremely low, the expert added.

So did the pilot hijack the plane, reprogram the flight path, turn off the transponder, and fly low above the surface and below radar all the way to the Maldives, or alternatively, US airbase, Diego Garcia, where Captain Shah promptly offloaded 20+ tons of still unknown cargo? Some experts opine on just this, by way of the Telegraph:

If the Maldive lead turns out to be a strong one, then the next question is: could the plane conceivably have flown to Somalia? Or somewhere in the southern Arabian peninsula or Iran? Somalia seems a much more likely destination for a hijacker with its known al-Qaeda connections.

And this:

David KaminskiMorrow @FlightDKM Follow

Timing is issue with claimed Maldives sighting, because 06:15 local (01:15UTC) is 8h after #MH370 loss of contact.
11:51 PM - 18 Mar 2014

Kaminski Morrow adds:

- The plane, a Boeing 777-200, was capable of travelling as far as the Maldives

- Male is the main airport but the sighting appears to have come from an atoll a long way south

- Commercial aircraft-tracking software, while not always reliable, doesn’t seem to show any other nearby traffic with which a sighting might have been confused

It is all hugely, hugely tentative - and I wouldn't want to vouch for the newspaper which is the source of this information.

But theoretically it could be possible.

The vital detail is the fuel; Malaysia Airlines has not said how much fuel was on board, other than to say "enough for the trip to Beijing".

Therefore we can't tell if that was enough to loop around and make it back to the Maldives.

So far there have been few firm theories about MH370 having landed on the US airbase in the middle of the Indian Ocean, some 800 miles south of Male in the Maldives.



ABC had this to say:

Theories about what happened to missing Malaysia Flight MH370 now span a 2 million-plus square mile area of open ocean and southeast Asian land, including one mysterious island in the Indian Ocean known as Diego Garcia.

While aviation experts and armchair theorists continue to come up with plausible locations, the jet could have landed or crashed. Many theories have included Diego Garcia as a notable landing strip.

The island atoll is a British territory in the central Indian Ocean and is home to a United States Navy support facility — not exactly a U.S. base, but a home for 1700 military personnel, 1,500 civilian contractors, and various Naval equipment.

The island — named after 16th century Spanish explorer Diego Garcia de Moguer — gained some notoriety in the past 10 years after reports claimed that the U.S. used Diego Garcia to transport and detain alleged terrorists.

Expect the US military to have zero official comments on the matter, and even less if indeed MH370 landed there, or merely used the base as a transit stop on its route further west, potentially to Africa.




Families threaten hunger strike unless more information is released about missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370
http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/18/families-threaten-hunger-strike-unless-m ore-information-is-released-about-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh3 70-4636510/
Tuesday 18 Mar 2014 8:31 am

A relative of a missing Chinese passenger shows journalists in Beijing a piece of paper with the words ‘Hunger strike protest, Respect life, Return my relative, Don’t want become victim of politics, Tell the truth’ (Picture: AP)
Family members of Chinese passengers who were travelling on the missing MH370 flight have said they will go on hunger strike if more information is not released by Malaysian officials.
The majority of those on the Malaysia Airlines plane, which went missing 11 days ago, were from China and many relatives in the country have now grown tired of waiting for answers.
‘Relatives are very unsatisfied. So you hear them saying “hunger strike”,’ said Wen Wancheng, whose son was on the flight, which had 239 people on board.
‘Now we have no news, and everyone is understandably worried. The relatives say they will go to the (Malaysian) embassy to find the ambassador.’
The families have been meeting Malaysia Airlines officials on a regular basis in Beijing but have grown frustrated with the lack of progress.
‘Since they haven’t given us the truth about those people’s lives, all of us are protesting,’ said an unnamed woman standing outside the hotel room where the meeting was held.
‘All the relatives are facing mental breakdowns.’
The investigation into the missing plane has now turned its attention to the pilots of the jet, and yesterday it was revealed that the search area now covers about 15 per cent of the planet’s surface.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On way 2 Diego Garcia?
MH370
Maldives Kuda Huvadhoo residents in Dhaal Atoll saw "low flying jumbo jet " 8 Mar am
http://www.thestatesman.net/news/45304-maldives-probes-reported-spotti ng-of-missing-malaysian-jet.html
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Maldives police have launched an investigation into reports that residents of the remote island of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhaal Atoll saw a "low flying jumbo jet " on 8 March morning after a Malaysia Airlines plane went missing.
The police did not reveal any details.
While the disappearance of the Boeing 777 jet carrying 239 passengers and crew has left the whole world bewildered, several residents of Kuda Huvadhoo told local media on Tuesday that they saw a "low flying jumbo jet" at around 6.15 a.m. 8 March.
Aviation security command head Mohamed Ziyad told Xinhua today morning that it was a white aircraft, with red stripes across it which is what the Malaysia Airlines flights typically look like.
Eyewitnesses from the Kuda Huvadhoo concurred that the plane was traveling north to southeast, towards the southern tip of the Addu atoll. They also spoke about the incredibly loud noise that the flight made when it flew over the island.
Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 vanished mysteriously about an hour after taking off from Kuala Lumpur 8 March.
The Boeing 777-200ER was initially presumed to have crashed off the Vietnamese coast in the South China Sea.
The plane was scheduled to land in Beijing at 6.30 a.m. the same day. The 227 passengers included five Indians, 154 Chinese and 38 Malaysians.
Contact with the plane was lost along with its radar signal at 1.40 a.m. when it was flying over the air traffic control area of Ho Chi Minh City.


http://www.dailypaul.com/314371/rolls-royce-furthers-malaysian-plane-m ystery-engine-data-showed-plane-had-flown-for-four-hours-more-than-tho ught

Errrr - yes it does!
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Chinese media have reported that relatives heard ringing tones when trying to call passengers’ mobile phones.
But experts believe this does not necessarily mean the phones were still functioning.
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1452447/phone-records-checked-my stery-surrounds-lack-contact-malaysia-airlines

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Scour every inch of Diego Garcia hangarage.
Including the secret stuff, possibly underground.
Now!


Diego Garcia spokesman "not discounting possibility that plane landed on runway that might not be heavily monitored"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-plan e-live-3258716
http://t.co/5VNgY4ypjx



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14:41 hrs Wed 19th March 2014
...Diego Garcia is a U.S. military base, but sources have already said that it had not landed there.
The source is quoted as saying: "We are not discounting the possibility that the plane landed on a runway that might not be heavily monitored, in addition to the theories that the plane landed on sea, in the hills or in an open space."...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-plan e-live-3258716


Relatives of the missing seem to be being used as pawns in this
Absloutely despicable
South China Morning Post wrote:
Distraught family members of Chinese passengers who were on flight MH370 stormed a meeting room in Kuala Lumpur ahead of a Malaysian government press conference, as investigations into the missing airliner entered a 13th day but yielded few conclusive answers.
"Where are my sons, I need to know where they are," said one woman from Beijing.

A handful of relatives evaded heavy security at the Sama Sama Hotel near Kuala Lumpur International Airport and unfurled a banner saying: "We protest against the Malaysian government withholding information and holding up search efforts."
The relatives burst into the hall as reporters were preparing for the latest update on search efforts to find the missing aircraft.
"It's been 12 days. How can the Malaysian government not let us know of our son's whereabouts?" one woman demanded.
"Not one Malaysian official has said one comforting word to us," she said.
The Beijing resident said they were a group of relatives of more than 20 passengers on the plane.
"The Chinese embassy has been sending its officers to talk to us and make sure we're fine every day, but not one Malaysian official has appeared," she said.
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1452492/angry-families-storm-mal aysia-press-briefing-protest-slow-mh370-search


SMH wrote:
The large plane was reported to be white with red stripes, which is consistent with the Malaysia Airlines fleet, and was said to have made an incredibly loud noise as it flew over the the island of Kuda Huvadhoo at about 6.15am on March 8, according Maldives newspaper Haveeru Daily.
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"I've never seen a jet flying so low over our island before,’’ one unnamed witness told the newspaper.
‘‘We've seen seaplanes, but I'm sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly... It's not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the tremendous noise too."
Mohamed Zaheem, the island councillor of Kuda Huvadhoo, told the newspaper that other residents had also spoken of the incident.
The residents claimed the plane was flying towards the southern tip of the Maldives, the Addu Atoll.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-possible-m h370-sighting-as-maldives-residents-report-lowflying-jumbo-20140319-hv kb0.html



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Who do you trust on this one?

Sydney Morning Herald wrote:
Eyewitness reports of a possible sighting of missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 flying near the Maldives have been officially discounted in a statement issued by the Maldives National Defence Force.
These reports were also confirmed by Malaysia's Transport Minister, Hishamuddin Hussein.
"Based on the monitoring up to date, no indication of Flight MH370 has been observed on any military radars in the country,” the statement said.
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Every time there's been an official announcement it has proved wrong.
- location of jet
- hours flown
- direction flown

There was the burning debris observation from an oil rig (proved to be false).

The latest is the Australian PM finding debris west-south-west of Australia. I'm sure that will prove to be another red herring.

It all comes back to Motive, Means and Opportunity.... who has the MMO? Only big state has an MMO.

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Who do you trust on this one?

Sydney Morning Herald wrote:
Eyewitness reports of a possible sighting of missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 flying near the Maldives have been officially discounted in a statement issued by the Maldives National Defence Force.
These reports were also confirmed by Malaysia's Transport Minister, Hishamuddin Hussein.
"Based on the monitoring up to date, no indication of Flight MH370 has been observed on any military radars in the country,” the statement said.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-maldives-d iscounted-as-possible-location-for-mh370-20140319-hvkjq.html
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just look at these denials yesterday
all from people who cannot possibly know whether anything the islanders say is right or wrong
How do they know? They dont! Why the fuss?
A dead Psychological Warfare Information Operations giveaway.

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One journalist spotted that the Australian (handed to them by the Yanks) 'debris' image was taken on Sunday. What about the series of satellite pictures of the 'debris' over the days since then?
What a charade. What diabolical uncritical unquestioning press coverage.
We were told around 9:30am this morning that Auzzie planes were 1/2 hour away from the site. Yet 10 hours later that they were still 'on their way'.

According to C4 news Took 4 days for 'crucial' InMarSat data to be shared with the search teams!

If the plane was not simply hacked...
Seems clear to me what was going on on the flight deck was fairly standard and the pilot trusted who he got orders from like the plane had got orders from the Malaysian or US military warning him off overflying Vietnam or similar. May not tell passengers even might have been asked to "maintain radio silence" and/or simply change frequency to a comms channel that nobody but the military was listening to.

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The latest is the Australian PM finding debris west-south-west of Australia. I'm sure that will prove to be another red herring.
It all comes back to Motive, Means and Opportunity.... who has the MMO? Only big state has an MMO.

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Have all the mobile phone companies checked their records for calls texts made from passengers during missing period?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
Who do you trust on this one?

Sydney Morning Herald wrote:
Eyewitness reports of a possible sighting of missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 flying near the Maldives have been officially discounted in a statement issued by the Maldives National Defence Force.
These reports were also confirmed by Malaysia's Transport Minister, Hishamuddin Hussein.
"Based on the monitoring up to date, no indication of Flight MH370 has been observed on any military radars in the country,” the statement said.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-maldives-d iscounted-as-possible-location-for-mh370-20140319-hvkjq.html


Well, first I would not trust the Sydney Morning Herald further than I could throw them. They are owned by Fairfax, a $5 billion media corporation.

And second, do the Maldives actually have "military radar"????? We know they must have some radar because of all the tourist flights, so why did he say "observed on any military radar"?

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James Corbett nails it again!

Corbett links the MH370 remote hijacking theory with the sophisticated 9/11 aircraft manoeuvrings.


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Aircraft do not "fail" by flying for 7 seven hours (cf buildings do not fail with 7 second "collapses")

The mainstream media acceptance that people commit suicide for no reason is now so widespread that foul play is not even offered as an option by the MSM hacks.
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An excellent film (1 hour) by John Pilger re the abomination by Britain to remove all the Indiginous people from Diego Garcia in order to provide it to the US for a base:

'Stealing a Nation, a Special Report by John Pilger':
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Seems obvious to me now from Tuesday's report where this aircraft is, and the passengers or their remains. In the hands of gas chamber types.

Satellite data suggests that the last "ping" was recieved from the flight somwhere close to the Maldives and the US naval base on Diego Garcia.

Maldives island residents report sighting of 'low flying jet'
Farah Ahmed and Ahmed Naif, Haveeru Online
Mar 18, 2014 - 02:5513 comments
http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/54062
Residents of the remote Maldives island of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhaal Atoll have reported seeing a "low flying jumbo jet" on the morning of the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.
Whilst the disappearance of the Boeing 777 jet, carrying 239 passengers has left the whole world in bewilderment, several residents of Kuda Huvadhoo told Haveeru on Tuesday that they saw a "low flying jumbo jet" at around 6:15am on March 8.
They said that it was a white aircraft, with red stripes across it – which is what the Malaysia Airlines flights typically look like.
Eyewitnesses from the Kuda Huvadhoo concurred that the aeroplane was travelling North to South-East, towards the Southern tip of the Maldives – Addu. They also noted the incredibly loud noise that the flight made when it flew over the island.
"I've never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We've seen seaplanes, but I'm sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly," said an eyewitness.
"It's not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the tremendous noise too."
Mohamed Zaheem, the Island Councilor of Kuda Huvadhoo, said that the residents of the island had spoken about the incident.
A local aviation expert told Haveeru that it is "likely" for MH370 to have flown over the Maldives. The possibility of any aircraft flying over the island at the reported time is extremely low, the expert added.
The Malaysia airlines jet disappeared on March 8 with 239 people on board after taking off from Kuala Lumpur bound for Beijing. Investigators say it was deliberately diverted off course.
Twenty-six countries are now helping to hunt for the plane after satellite and military radar data projected two huge corridors through which it might have flown.
Satellite data suggests that the last "ping" was recieved from the flight somwhere close to the Maldives and the US naval base on Diego Garcia.
But the Maldives is not amongst the countries that Malaysian authorities had sought help from in its search for the missing jet. Malaysia has listed the countries that it had appealed for assistance: Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, China, Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, Australia and France.

International Business Times wrote:
Malaysia Airlines MH370: Low-Flying Plane 'Seen' by Maldives Islanders but not Detected by Radars
By Divya Avasthy March 19, 2014 08:13 GMT
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/malaysia-airlines-mh370-low-flying-plane-seen -by-maldives-islanders-not-detected-by-radars-1440867
Missing Malaysia Flight MH370: Residents of Maldives reportedly saw what has been described as a "low-flying jumbo jet" flying over their houses early in the morning of March 8. The distance between Malaysia and Maldives is 3170.74 km
Claims by people in a remote Maldivian island that they sighted an unidentified plane flying low over their houses in the morning of 8 March have offered a new lead in the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.
Residents of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhall Atoll in the Maldives spotted a "low-flying plane" around 6:15 am local time on 8 March, the day MH370 vanished leaving scant trails, Maldivian newspaper Haveeru reported.
The local police are probing the testimonies of the residents, but have not yet disclosed any details.
However, the Indian Ocean island nation's defence forces have said their radars did not detect the plane.
"Further to the surveillance conducted thus far, none of the military radars in the country has detected a trace of the missing plane. Furthermore, no trace of the MH370 Airline has been found from the data scrutinized thus far from radars stationed at the airports in the Maldives," an official statement said.
“I've never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We've seen seaplanes, but I'm sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly."”
- A Maldivian 'eyewitness'
The reported time of the sighting of the plane in the Maldives would be around 9 am local time in Malaysia, roughly eight hours after the plane lost contact with air traffic control.
The missing Malaysia Airlines plane, a Boeing 777 jet, is capable of carrying enough fuel to stay in air for more than eight hours even with a full load of 239 people on board.

Malaysia did not seek help
Though the last "ping" from the jetliner was received near the Maldives and the US naval base on Diego Garcia, the Malaysian government did not seek help from Maldivian authorities in finding the missing plane, the newspaper said.
Maldivian islanders saw a "low-flying jumbo jet" with white and red stripes across it as on Malaysian Airliners, the report said. The residents heard incredibly loud noise which made them come out of their houses to look for the source of the sound.
The residents said the plane was flying so low that they could even see its doors, and that the jet appeared to be flying from north to south-east, towards the southernmost atoll of Addu.
"I've never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We've seen seaplanes, but I'm sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly," said an eyewitness.
"It's not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the tremendous noise too."

'Terrain Masking' theory
Meanwhile, a local aviation expert reportedly told Haveeru that it was "likely" the sighted plane was MH370, as the possibility of any other aircraft flying over the island at the reported time was remote.
The latest eyewitness report has given more credence to the 'Terrain Masking' theory, which has been used to explain the mystery behind the jet's unidentified flight path after losing contact with air traffic control.
Terrain masking avoids detection by radar by positioning the airplane low near the ground to have the natural earth mask the plane from radio waves. Military pilots use this manoeuvre to fly stealthily towards their target.
The New Strait Times reported that the plane descended to an altitude of 5,000 feet or lower, after turning from waypoint 'Igari', the last-confirmed location of the plane, possibly to dodge radar.
"The person who had control of the aircraft has solid knowledge of avionics and navigation and left a clean track," an official told the paper.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does everybody remember this one from 9/11?
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=111285#111285
Search for this article on this site and you'll find a load of updates, from Joe himself it seems!


"Home Run" Electronically Hijacking the WTC Attack Aircraft
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Joe Vialls, October 2001
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/war/homerun.htm

In the mid-seventies America faced a new and escalating crisis, with US commercial jets being hijacked for geopolitical reasons. Determined to gain the upper hand in this new form of aerial warfare, two American multinationals collaborated with the Defense Advanced Projects Agency (DARPA) on a project designed to facilitate the remote recovery of hijacked American aircraft.

Brilliant both in concept and operation, "Home Run" [not its real code name] allowed specialist ground controllers to listen in to cockpit conversations on the target aircraft, then take absolute control of its computerized flight control system by remote means.

From that point onwards, regardless of the wishes of the hijackers or flight deck crew, the hijacked aircraft could be recovered and landed automatically at an airport of choice, with no more difficulty than flying a radio-controlled model plane. The engineers had no idea that almost thirty years after its initial design, Home Run's top secret computer codes would be broken, and the system used to facilitate direct ground control of the four aircraft used in the high-profile attacks on New York and Washington on 11th September 2001.

Before moving on to the New York and Washington attacks, we first need to look at the ways in which an aircraft is normally controlled by its pilot, because without this basic knowledge, Home Run would make no sense.

In order to control an aircraft in three-dimensional space, the pilot uses the control yoke (joystick) in front of him, rudder pedals under his feet, and a bank of engine throttles located at his side. Without engine thrust the aircraft would not fly at all, so the throttles are largely self explanatory: For more speed or altitude increase throttle, for less speed or altitude decrease throttle.

In order to raise or lower the nose of the aircraft, the pilot pulls or pushes on the control yoke, which in turn raises or lowers the elevators on the horizontal tailplane. To bank the aircraft left or right, the pilot moves the control yoke to the left or right, which in turn operates the ailerons on the outer wings. Lastly, to turn left or right at low speed or "balance" turns at high speed, the pilot presses the left or right rudder pedals as required, which in turn move the rudder on the vertical stabilizer.

Back in the early days of flight, the control yoke and rudder pedals were connected to the various flight control surfaces by thin cables, meaning the pilot had direct physical control over every movement the aircraft made. This was no great problem for an average man flying a small biplane, but as aircraft grew ever bigger, heavier and faster over the years, the loadings on the control yoke and rudder pedals became huge, certainly well beyond the ability of a single pilot to handle unaided.

By the late fifties we were well into the age of hydraulics, where just like the power steering on your automobile, hydraulic rams were placed in line between the pilot's control cables and each individual control surface. Now when the pilot moved the control yoke, the cables activated sensors, which in turn activated one or more hydraulic rams, which in turn moved one or more control surfaces. For the first time since Bleriot and the Wright brothers, pilots were of necessity being steadily distanced from direct control of their own aircraft.

When the multinationals and DARPA finally came on the scene in the mid- seventies, aircraft systems were even more advanced, with computers controlling onboard autopilots, which in turn were capable of controlling all of the onboard hydraulics. In combination these multiple different functions were now known as the "Flight Control System" or FCS, in turn integrated with sophisticated avionics capable of automatically landing the aircraft in zero visibility conditions.

In summary, by the mid-seventies most of the large jets were capable of effectively navigating hundreds of miles and then making automatic landings at a selected airport in zero-zero fog conditions. All of this could be accomplished unaided, but in theory at least, still under the watchful eyes of the flight deck crews.

In order to make Home Run truly effective, it had to be completely integrated with all onboard systems, and this could only be accomplished with a new aircraft design, several of which were on the drawing boards at that time. Under cover of extreme secrecy, the multinationals and DARPA went ahead on this basis and built "back doors" into the new computer designs.....

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Diego Garcia Airport has facebook page... Go to facebook and type "Diego Garcia Passenger Terminal". It includes the flight schedule of Diego Garcia passenger airport. Scroll down to the 8th of March, when the plane went missing. It's funny how there were no flights for the next 72 hours. In fact a fb user says the flights schedule were cancelled.

From Guardian Comments page a user called "Democracyhijacked" says

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1. Diego Garcia had all flights in and out cancelled the day the flight went missing.

2. The plane flew for 4 hours more after contact was lost. Just enough to make it to Diego Garcia.

http://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/dffaffd5c383235256835a582 615b6ab.png

3. Russians say there was a suspicious 20 ton cargo on the plane that had been loaded from the USS Maerks Alabama. There were two ex-navy seals in charge with guarding the cargo. "Both ex-navy seals were employed by the Virginia Beach, Virginia-based maritime security firm The Trident Group which was founded by US Navy Special Operations Personnel (SEAL’s) and Senior US Naval Surface Warfare Officers and has long been known by the GRU to protect vital transfers of both atomic and biological materials throughout the world."

4. "Within 24-hours of off-loading this “highly suspicious” cargo load bound for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the two highly-trained US Navy Seals assigned to protect it, Mark Daniel Kennedy, 43, and Jeffrey Keith Reynolds, 44, were found dead under “suspicious circumstances.”

5. Residents of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhall Atoll in the Maldives spotted a "low-flying plane" around 6:15 am local time on 8 March.

6. Some have said that the time the plane was spotted at Maldives does not add up. In my opinion it does make sense if the plane landed in Diego Garcia. Here is my take on the schedule followed:

...................................................GMT...............M alasia Local Time
Departure...................................16:41..............0:41
Lost contact...............................17:07............. 1:07
Last contact.............................. 17:19 ............ 1:19
Last Mil. Radar signature......... 18:15.............. 2:15
Arrival at Diego Garcia............. 22:05 ............. 6:05
Departure from D.G.................. 00:03............. 8:03
Maldives spotting .....................01:15...............9:15
(at Kudahuvadhoo)

This supposes flight speed of 905 km/h and flight path of 3450 km from last military radar location to Diego Garcia, 1100 km from D.G to Kudahuvadhoo, and logistics of 2h at Diego Garcia.

7. All electromagnetic signatures under the plane went missing suddenly. Only the satellite links kept recording signals.

...

Here are my sources and some I left out:

http://greatgameindia.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/mh370-mystery-suspiciou s-cargo-death-of-2-ex-navy-seals-aboard-mv-maersk-alabama/

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/20re8t/did_missing_flight_ mh370_land_in_the_maldives_or/

http://www.straitstimes.com/sites/straitstimes.com/files/20140318/MH37 0map140318b.png

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/3/15/13 94881497819/50ffa14b-f18b-4270-ac24-23c16dd59bad-460x458.png
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The 20 Freescale employees, among 239 people on flight MH370, were mostly engineers and other experts working to make the company’s chip facilities in Tianjin, China, and Kuala Lumpur more efficient, said Mitch Haws, vice president, global communications and investor relations.

“These were people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people,” Haws said. “It’s definitely a loss for the company.”

Loss of employees on Malaysia flight a blow, U.S. chipmaker says

In Malaysia, Freescale’s modern operations facility that manufactures and tests integrated circuits (IC) is based in Petaling Jaya.

Based on information obtained from Freescale’s website, the facility began operations in 1972 covering an eight hectare site and is specifically designed for the manufacturing and testing of microprocessors, digital signal processors and integrated radio frequency circuits.

It also owns Freescale RF which is involved in creating solutions for Aerospace and Defence listed below.

1. Battlefield communication

2. Avionics

3. HF Radar – Band L- and S-

4. Missile Guidance

5. Electronic Warfare

6. Identification, friend or foe (IFF)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/09/us-malaysia-airlines-freesca le-idUSBREA280T020140309

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Loss of employees on Malaysia flight a blow, U.S. chipmaker says
BY NOEL RANDEWICH
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(Reuters) - Employees of Freescale Semiconductor who were on a Malaysia Airlines flight presumed to have crashed were doing sophisticated work at the U.S. chipmaker, a company spokesman said on Sunday.
The 20 Freescale employees, among 239 people on flight MH370, were mostly engineers and other experts working to make the company's chip facilities in Tianjin, China, and Kuala Lumpur more efficient, said Mitch Haws, vice president, global communications and investor relations.
"These were people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people," Haws said. "It's definitely a loss for the company."
None of Austin, Texas-based Freescale's most senior executives were on board the Boeing Co 777-200ER airliner that vanished from radar screens about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur for Beijing on Saturday.
The employees who were on board, 12 from Malaysia and eight from China, came from a range of disciplines and they were part of a broad push by Chief Executive Officer Gregg Lowe to make Freescale more efficient and cost effective, Haws said.
Top-quality engineers are hard to come by for chipmakers and other technology companies, and losing them can have a major impact on business, regardless of their seniority.
While the employees on the flight account for less than 1 percent of Freescale's global workforce of 16,800 people, they were working toward the same goals and their loss will reverberate throughout Freescale, Haws said.
They had been streamlining facilities in Tianjin and Kuala Lumpur that Freescale uses for testing and packaging microchips used in automobiles, consumer products, telecommunications infrastructure and industrial equipment.
On Sunday, Freescale was organizing transportation and accommodation for the 20 staff members' families, as well as providing grief counseling, Haws said.
One of the chipmaker's long-time competitors, Texas Instruments, tweeted on Saturday: "We extend our condolences to the families and coworkers of the @Freescale employees aboard Malaysia Airlines flight MH370."

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scienceplease 2 wrote:
I just love all those denials about that the planes engines were running for four hours after the disappearance...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/14/malaysia-airlines-flight- mh370-may-deliberately-flown-west-hijacked

Quote:
That most of the leads on the potential location, and fate, of the missing aircraft are coming from US authorities indicates that it is the Americans – and not the Malaysians – who know more than they are letting on.


Meanwhile rumour-mill

http://media.freescale.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=196520&p=irol-newsArticle&I D=1907348&

Freescale Semiconductor Employees Confirmed Passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370

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AUSTIN, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Mar. 8, 2014-- Freescale Semiconductor (NYSE:FSL) has confirmed that 20 of its employees were confirmed passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. Twelve are from Malaysia and eight are from China. The entire Freescale Semiconductor community is deeply saddened by this news. The company is continuing to monitor the situation and will provide more information as it becomes available.


This is the rumour (I am not convinced)...

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/03/if-true-this-should-be-kn own-austin-company-at-the-center-of-this-one-2917426.html

Quote:
Four days after a missing flight, a patent is approved
by the Patent Office for maximizing dies on a wafer.
4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of
Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX.
Patent is divided up on 20% increments to 5 holders.
Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Freescale Semiconductor (20%)
If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders
equally share the dividends of the deceased if not
disputed in a will.
If 4 of the 5 dies, then the remaining 1 Patent holder
gets 100% of the wealth of the patent.
That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.
Who owns Freescale Semiconductor ??
Jacob Rothschild through Blackstone who owns Freescale.
Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane.


Why are you not convinced? Not much 'rumour' about it: here is the patent info:
http://truthnewsinternational.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/us008671381. pdf

Also, on one of the links you gave, or rather a follow-up one, it is reported that the Russian GRU tracked MH 370 to Diego Garcia, that bio-hazard experts from the US CDC (Center for Disease Control) and the Chinese equivalent flew to Diego Garcia, and that the 'cargo' was then flown to the US and destroyed in a massive explosion at the US White Sands missile testing range. It also states that when the 'cargo' was first loaded on MH 370, the Russians told the Chinese of their suspicions, and China was going to divert the aircraft from it's intended destination, Beijing, to Haikou Meilan International Airport (HAK) located in Hainan Province (aka Hainan Island).

Perhaps the US had planned a 'False Flag' attack on China, but when the Russians got suspicious and warned China, the US had no alternative than to 'capture' the plane and remove the 'cargo' for safe disposal. If these reports are true, it must have been a really dangerous 'cargo' for it having been necessary to fly it to the States for destruction.

A website called 'The Aviation Herald'
http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0
looked potentially useful, except I noticed none of the comments raised suspicions of US involvement; I put up a few comments regarding above info.


Only problem with these reports is, if they are based on Russian reports, why doesn't Russia openly release the information?

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Our old Establishment Quacks at Goldsmith's:

Rob Brotherton
Flight MH370: The allure of the conspiracy theory:
http://www.gold.ac.uk/academics/robbrothertonflightmh370.php

'While we wait for answers, I, along with colleagues Chris French and Christopher Thresher-Andrews at Goldsmiths, University of London, wanted to see how many people were jumping to the conclusion that foul play was involved.

We asked over 400 people to rank six possible scenarios for the jet's disappearance – three accidental, three conspiratorial – from most to least plausible. The most popular scenario involved no conspiracy: half of those surveyed rated an accidental crash as most likely. However, just under one-fifth believed a hijacking to be the most plausible scenario, the second most popular choice.

A non-conspiratorial crash due to pilot error came third, preferred by 14 per cent. A more outlandish idea – that the disappearance was secretly orchestrated by the Chinese, Malaysian or US government – was rated most likely by a little under 7 per cent. Finally, just over 5 per cent ranked a spontaneous explosion as the most credible explanation, and a similar number rated a terrorist bombing as most likely...'

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Inmarsat have refused to release any of the data on which this latest fairy story is based.
So ridiculous UK story provides cover for a probable US Op., retaliation for China's support for Russia over Crimea. PsyOp & threat aimed directly at Chinese politburo central committee?

Inmarsat gives details on how flight MH370 was tracked
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10719854/MH370 -How-British-satellite-company-Inmarsat-tracked-down-missing-Malaysia- Airlines-plane.html
The findings were passed to another satellite company to check before being released to investigators on Monday. The new evidence led Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak to conclude later the same day that the Boeing 777, which disappeared more than two weeks ago, crashed thousands of miles away in the southern Indian Ocean, killing all 239 people on board.

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Why are you not convinced? Not much 'rumour' about it...
(patent link)

Because the names of the patent holders aren't on the passenger list? (I haven't checked - this is just what I've found second hand). And just money as being the excuse - I don't believe it. There must be some other reason. Perhaps the false flag attack scenario against China: a deliberate act of war?! Scarey stuff! I just don't know why the US would do that. It doesn't make sense to me, the stakes are too high.

As for the recent Inmarsat theory of one or both pilots flying into the Indian Ocean. Can you imagine the pandemonium on the flight with the knowledge that they were flying into empty ocean?! No way. That is truly unbelievable!

But I am convinced about the remote hijacking... and the aircraft being flown to Diego Garcia. I don't think there is enough information to understand why yet.
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scienceplease 2 wrote:
outsider wrote:

Why are you not convinced? Not much 'rumour' about it...
(patent link)

Because the names of the patent holders aren't on the passenger list? (I haven't checked - this is just what I've found second hand). And just money as being the excuse - I don't believe it. There must be some other reason. Perhaps the false flag attack scenario against China: a deliberate act of war?! Scarey stuff! I just don't know why the US would do that. It doesn't make sense to me, the stakes are too high.

As for the recent Inmarsat theory of one or both pilots flying into the Indian Ocean. Can you imagine the pandemonium on the flight with the knowledge that they were flying into empty ocean?! No way. That is truly unbelievable!

But I am convinced about the remote hijacking... and the aircraft being flown to Diego Garcia. I don't think there is enough information to understand why yet.


The 'Patent' theory (or actuality) need not be the major cause; think 9/11:
the 'put' options: the Gold Bullion in WTC: the high-level 'evidence' re gigantic scams like Enron that 'incinerated' in Bldg. 7.

They may be evil, and they may be stupid, but their MO indicates they try to maximise profits on their 'False Flag' ops.

And Rockefeller owning Freescale (indirectly)?

Totally agree, not nearly enough evidence to come to a definitive conclusion. Laughing

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Why Malaysia?
The presence of a large number of Chinese passengers on board the doomed flight is being used to strain relations between Communist China and Malaysia, and it may contribute to a future deterioration of their relationship, resulting in increased justification of Chinese presence in the region, and maybe even future Chinese aggression. This may also help explain why a Malaysian plane was targeted, as opposed to an Indonesian plane (Indonesia is already in the hands of the Globalists, and therefore never gets any brinkmanship from Communist China, which is a creation of the Globalists). Malaysia is probably the only country in the world whose recent leadership has openly criticized the IMF, Israel, the War on Terror and made claims that 9/11 was an Inside Job. Malaysia has a bustling economy, but the Globalists prefer plantation style economies, such as neighbouring Indonesia, which is completely under Globalist control. Since Malaysia cannot be subject to the so-called War on Terror unless they start openly supporting Al-Qaida, the only other alternative the Globalists have is to feed it to China, and the Panda will invite itself for lunch, Al-Qaida or not. Mainstream media has repeatedly stressed at Chinese impatience with Malaysian “incompetence.” While it is true that the present mess would not have been possible unless many Malaysian officials were compromised, so were many officials of other governments involved in the search and rescue efforts. And despite such high level corruption, the deliberately concealed fact that the plane had reversed course and moved Westwards did come out, albeit in a muffled way. It is unlikely that such disclosure would have ever happened in any of the neighbouring Globalist-dominated countries.


It became apparent as I inspected SIA68’s flight path history that MH370 had maneuvered itself directly behind SIA68 at approximately 18:00UTC and over the next 15 minutes had been following SIA68. All the pieces of my theory had been fitting together with the facts that have been publically released and I began to feel a little uneasy.
http://keithledgerwood.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370 -disappear-using-sia68-sq68

Was Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Redirected to Diego Garcia and then South Carolina?
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2014/03/malaysian-airlines-mh370-stolen. html
"If we are to follow the logic of some devoted conspiracy theorists who are pursuing this on other forums, the plane and its passengers would be flown to the Eastern mainland of the United States, over the Atlantic Ocean to escape scrutiny (and comparatively less distance than the other way around).
"Of course, the plane’s livery would be painted over.
"The plane’s wreckage would later be carefully deposited by (presumably by air) on a location far away from Diego Garcia..."
Redirected to the USA?
"Four days after the disappearance of MH370, a curious military exercise took place on the Southern-Eastern part of the United States coastline.
"Fighter jets were reportedly 'escorting' a plane."
Redirected to the USA?
To quote:
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/SC-Air-National-Guard-plans-coastal -exercise-5309260.php
"Members of the South Carolina Air National Guard are conducting an air defense exercise along the coast.
"Guard Senior Master Sergeant Edward Snyder says people might see fighter jets escorting a civilian aircraft Thursday over the North Charleston and Myrtle Beach areas."
SC Air National Guard plans coastal exercise - SFGate.
MH370: Indonesian Embassy regrets Utusan Malaysia report.

Cabal Times v iffy but some v interesting ideas
Was Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Redirected to Diego Garcia?
http://www.cabaltimes.com/2014/03/12/ma370-redirected-to-diego-garcia/

It has now become fairly evident that the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing is not accidental. In fact, there is a strong possibility that the flight was commandeered to the US military base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. A bizarre “extraordinary rendition“?

Please note that this article is being expanded and updated regularly. I have decided to keep all the information in one place, as opposed to having it scattered across several different posts. So do check back. Also note that some commentators have posted very insightful information.

Why did Flight 370 try to hide its whereabouts?

MH370 was a 777-200 service carrying 239 passenger and crew on a regular Kuala Lumpur to Beijing service. To recap, it left KL at 12.40 am, it disappeared as a commercial radar trace at 1.22 am close to the area where such radar visibility to the Malaysia air traffic control system drops off, and was never observed as entering Vietnam controlled air space on a path intended to cross that country to the South China Sea and continue past Hong Kong toward its destination. The transponders on Flight 370 was switched off immediately after it was outside the visibility of Malaysia’s air traffic control! To quote a poster GarageYears on a forum for professional pilots,

Turning off the transponder isn’t just a toggle or push-button, the switch is a rotary and you’d have to move it two positions to get it into the standby condition.

This could only have been done by a compromised crew, or by hijackers. To quote another forum member Tfor2,

1. It was a hi-jack (transponder turned off, no Mayday), and the plane was not under the control of the pilots. It flew to wherever was demanded, and something happened thereafter causing it to crash, probably from an effort to regain control (as with United 93 during events of 9/11). So it could be anywhere. An eye-witness will eventually come forward. 2. The most fearsome worry to come out of this is how come an aircraft can invade national territory without military or civil or satellite detection? This leaves a hole in the defense systems of all countries.

To quote a professional A330 pilot,

I think the flight deck was compromised.

But that’s not the only sign that Flight 370 was trying to hide its whereabouts. Immediately after shutting off its transponders, Flight 370 made a U-turn and headed in the direction of Diego Garcia, crossing Malaysia in the process. If there indeed had been a massive technical failure, the crew would have tried to safely ditch the plane at sea, not return to Malaysia. And if there had been a cabin decompression, the plane would have slowly lost altitude, crashing into the Gulf of Thailand. Malaysia’s Air Force Chief General Rodzali Daud first raised the possibility that the plane had reversed course the very next day (9th March), and he was quoted by a Malay-language paper as saying the jet had been tracked hundreds of miles from its intended flight path, over the Strait of Malacca off western Malaysia, and up to 320 kilometres northwest of the Malaysian state of Penang, after which it either disappeared or Malaysian radar lost capability to track it. It was clearly flying low, as if to avoid detection by radar.

After turning off its transponder, Flight 370 turned around and headed to the direction of Diego Garcia.
After turning off its transponder, Flight 370 turned around and headed to the direction of Diego Garcia.
General Daud’s statement was clearly not expected, as all the concerned governments were vigorously pedalling the notion that the plane was lost in the Gulf of Thailand, and all search and rescue efforts got misdirected to the plane’s intended route. The Communist Vietnamese government even produced some eyewitnesses that testified seeing a plane flying low off their coast. There were repeated attempts to identify any piece of floating debris in the vicinity as that of Flight 370. When mainstream media picked up General Daud’s very credible statement, he was pressured into retracting it, and has now issued a formal retraction. America’s biggest trading client, Communist China, also expressed irritation at the Malaysian government over the “confusion.” It is clear that such misdirection could not have been possible without the involvement of highly placed Malaysian officials. Nevertheless, General Daud’s statement has altered the direction of the search, which now focuses on the Andaman Sea, instead of the Gulf of Thailand. It seems there were desperate attempts to keep the search away from the West Coast of Malaysia. For example, an oil rig worker on the Vietnam coast claimed to have seen a fiery object, but the report later turned out to be untrue. To quote,




kiwi-oilrig


To quote another poster Frenchwalker on the same aforementioned forum,

Just to point out on some of the information provided by the Malaysian military last night around its last know position, more so around the fact the the aircraft descended to around 3000ft would this simply be to maintain Visual Flight Rules , cloud base in Kuala Lumpur usually sits between 3000ft and 10,000ft this would indicate the the person in command certainly had control of the Aircraft

A possible flight path of Flight 370, from where it was last observed on radar in Penang, to Diego Garcia.
A possible flight path of Flight 370, from where it was last observed on radar in Penang, to Diego Garcia.
If the plane was headed towards Diego Garcia (which is under eight hours of flying time from Kuala Lumpur), it would have been captured on Indonesian radars as well, and it was likely to have crossed over Indonesia. But unlike Malaysia, Indonesia is a defacto Globalist client state, and would immediately cover up such information. Australia also has a sophisticated radar network, but we haven’t heard from them either. Apart from radar, there is also other “live” data associated with commercial aircraft, which is not being discussed. To quote another user of the forum Davionics,

Why has nobody confirmed/announced if there were any transmissions sent via SATCOM? Seems to be the elephant in the room – the media currently appears to have an unhealthy tunneled obsession with; radar, ads-b, voice comms, gps, black boxes, etc. Surely ACARS and engine telemetry data could shine a good dose of light on this incredibly sad fiasco. Many aircraft today also have Panasonic Avionics high-bandwidth eXconnect GCS (Global Communications Suite) to augment SATCOM.

Investigators have now confirmed that such live data indicated that the plane continued to fly even after its last radar contact. The just won’t tell us when the data transmissions ended (which would indicate when the flight landed). To quote,

Throughout the roughly four hours after the jet dropped from civilian radar screens, these people said, the link operated in a kind of standby mode and sought to establish contact with a satellite or satellites. These transmissions did not include data, they said, but the periodic contacts indicate to investigators that the plane was still intact and believed to be flying. Investigators are still working to fully understand the information, according to one person briefed on the matter. The transmissions, this person said, were comparable to the plane “saying I’m here, I’m ready to send data.”

And there is still no word about the signals from monitoring systems embedded in the plane’s Rolls-Royce PLC engines, which would have stopped when the plane landed. Diego Garcia is the strongest US military-air force base in the Indian Ocean. It served as a forwarding base in almost all American conflicts in the Gulf and in Afghanistan. It was also a transit venue for the infamous “extraordinary renditions.” It possesses formidable radar capabilities, as well as several airstrips. And large hangars that can hide aircraft. To quote a commenter on a pilot’s website who believed the plane was in Diego Garcia,

My speculation is of this being a super-duper, super-extraordinary form of rendition.

And most important of all, Diego Garcia has a staff who follow a code of not asking too many questions and keeping their eyes wide shut. Unlike Malaysia, there are no General Dauds in Diego Garcia, who would blurt out what they saw on military radar.

Air Force One at Diego Garcia
Air Force One at Diego Garcia
An American aircraft carrier at Diego Garcia.
An American aircraft carrier at Diego Garcia.
American military aircraft at Diego Garcia.
American military aircraft at Diego Garcia.
Good Times?
Good Times?
Its Official: Diego Garcia is a Strong Possibility!

Assuming the plane landed, WNYC has produced a map showing all possible airports within the range of MH370, based on its last radar contact, and Diego Garcia is one of them!

wnyc.org-possibleairports
The red dot on the extreme south-east is the Diego Garcia airport.
The Washington Post has published an infographic that puts Diego Garcia within four hours if its last known location, and they have taken the last known location as the place where the transponders switched off, not the place where military radars picked up the plane near Penang. If they had taken Penang as the last known location as far as radar is concerned, Diego Garcia would have probably been even closer.

Diego Garcia is now officially within four hours range of the place where the transponders shut off!
Diego Garcia is now officially within four hours range of the place where the transponders shut off!
All possibilities are being discussed, from the Gobi desert and Kazakhstan to Pakistan and Iran. Even though the geopolitics of the Indian subcontinent and the Indochina region has resulted in several nations carefully watching their radars for enemy aircraft on a fulltime basis. Somehow they all seemed to have missed the huge plane flying without a transponder identifying it. There is absolutely no mention of Diego Garcia, except for the Malaysian Transport minister, who claims he has no confirmation yet that it landed at Diego Garcia, even though his government is looking into “all possibilities.” A Pentagon official claims to believe that the plane crashed into the Andaman Sea, north of Diego Garcia (But obviously not at Diego Garcia).

Some conspiracy sleuths have also uncovered proof that no flights were scheduled for 3 days at Diego Garcia airport during the time MH370 went missing. All maintenance crew would likely have been on leave, so that the plane could be sneaked in undetected. On March 7th, the Facebook account of the Diego Garcia passenger terminal posted a notice that there would be no scheduled flights for the next 72 hours. This posting is still visible as of 11:38 AM 20th March 2014. The following is a screenshot.


No scheduled flights because a very important one is scheduled to come!
This little factoid was even tweeted about.


This was also posted to the wall of the US Navy Support Facility Diego Garcia because it concerned US Navy support crew in there. The same conspiracy sleuths insist that this post along with many other posts between March 6th and March 9th were deleted.

Why Malaysia?

The presence of a large number of Chinese passengers on board the doomed flight is being used to strain relations between Communist China and Malaysia, and it may contribute to a future deterioration of their relationship, resulting in increased justification of Chinese presence in the region, and maybe even future Chinese aggression. This may also help explain why a Malaysian plane was targeted, as opposed to an Indonesian plane (Indonesia is already in the hands of the Globalists, and therefore never gets any brinkmanship from Communist China, which is a creation of the Globalists). Malaysia is probably the only country in the world whose recent leadership has openly criticized the IMF, Israel, the War on Terror and made claims that 9/11 was an Inside Job. Malaysia has a bustling economy, but the Globalists prefer plantation style economies, such as neighbouring Indonesia, which is completely under Globalist control. Since Malaysia cannot be subject to the so-called War on Terror unless they start openly supporting Al-Qaida, the only other alternative the Globalists have is to feed it to China, and the Panda will invite itself for lunch, Al-Qaida or not. Mainstream media has repeatedly stressed at Chinese impatience with Malaysian “incompetence.” While it is true that the present mess would not have been possible unless many Malaysian officials were compromised, so were many officials of other governments involved in the search and rescue efforts. And despite such high level corruption, the deliberately concealed fact that the plane had reversed course and moved Westwards did come out, albeit in a muffled way. It is unlikely that such disclosure would have ever happened in any of the neighbouring Globalist-dominated countries.

Compared to Globalist dominated Indonesia, Malaysia has gotten away with prosperity. But for how long?
Compared to Globalist dominated Indonesia, Malaysia has gotten away with prosperity. But for how long?
Other Odd Ends

Initially there were reports of some passengers who did not board the plane, but then Malaysian authorities were forced to “retract” their statements. Passengers connected to the Global Elite usually receive advance warnings.
Flight 370 had 20 employees of Texas based Freescale Semiconductors. It is unclear whether or not the company counted the NSA among its clients. These 20 engineers were working on electronic warfare, and designing some kind of stealth plane invisible to radar! To quote Wikipedia on the company,
In the 1960s, one of the U. S. space program’s goals was to land a man on the moon and return him safely to Earth [Not Quite!]. In 1968, NASA began manned Apollo flights that led to the first lunar landing in July 1969. Apollo 11 was particularly significant for hundreds of employees involved in designing, testing and producing its electronics. A division of Motorola, which became Freescale Semiconductor, supplied thousands of semiconductor devices, ground-based tracking and checkout equipment, and 12 on-board tracking and communications units. An “up-data link” in the Apollo’s command module received signals from Earth to relay to other on-board systems. A transponder received and transmitted voice and television signals and scientific data. [.......] and Motorola’s MPC5200 microprocessor deployed telematic systems for General Motors’ OnStar systems. [.......] In addition, a recent ABI Research market study report states that Freescale owns 60% share of the Radio Frequency (RF) semiconductor device market. [.......] Also in 2011, Freescale announced the company’s first magnetometer for location tracking in smart mobile devices.

Confirmation of Iranian passengers travelling on false European passports. While they have been ruled out as hijackers, the Powers That Be sometimes do use Iranians for dirty work. There was also an attempt to portray them as favourably as possible.
If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature (Thanks to Mike Adams).
Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion, and they transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean (Thanks to Mike Adams).
Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water (Thanks to Mike Adams), and would have been noticed if there was a crash at sea.
Some relatives of passengers claim that calls placed to their cellphones are ringing! Passenger social media accounts on the Chinese social media QQ site show the passengers to be online!
Conspiracy Forums are abuzz with rumours of the plane being diverted to Diego Garcia.
America has jumped into the investigation, subtly suggesting that the captain went mad (The Iranians don’t seem to interest them). But that’s what they said about EgyptAir Flight 990, which was returning to Egypt with more than 30 military officers who had trained in America. They are mum about the radars at Diego Garcia picking up anything unusual.
The lyrics of Get It Started, a song produced by American rapper Pitbull (released 25th June 2012) have gained notoriety among the conspiracy crowd as having contained allegories to the plane’s disappearance. The music video is creepy, and shows people being watched and followed, as if some kind of intelligence operation is going on. The lyrics in question are: No Ali, no Frasier, but for now it’s off to Malaysia/ Two passports, three cities, two countries, one day/Now that’s worldwide, if you think it’s a game, let’s play, dale. The two Iranian men who boarded the plane using fake passports had purchased their tickets from a mysterious Iranian named Ali. According to those who are reading into this, the two passports refers to the two men who boarded the plane using two stolen passports. The three cities might be Kuala Lumpur Beijing and…….. (hold your breath) maybe a city on the American East Coast where the plane was ultimately flown to (see next section). The two countries may be Malaysia and China, and it is clear that the whole operation was meant to create a serious rift between the two. The plane had indeed flown “worldwide” in a short span of time, and had the rift between Malaysia and China deepened, the consequences would have also been “worldwide.” Yes, we do think its a game dale, so lets play! Are the lines I am what they thought I’d never become….I went from eviction to food stamps a reference to “food-stamp” President Obama and his dark transformation?
Two “ex-Navy SEALS” SEALs have been found dead aboard the American ship Maersk Alabama in Seychelles, not far from Diego Garcia. It is unclear if this incident is related.
British satellite firm Immarsat claimed that it was picking up hourly pings from MH370 up to 7.5 hours after take off.
The pilot was, or claimed to be a fanatical supporter of Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim. He even attended Anwar’s trial just before flying. Anwar was being tried for sodomy. Anwar Ibrahim was an opponent of Mahathir Mohammad, and the latter was quoted as saying “He [Anwar] would make a good Prime Minister of Israel.” The Diego Garcia runway was later found among his favourite five runways in a flight simulator he used at home!
Airport security camera photographs of the two men travelling on fake passports have been shooped! The younger man (left) was identified as Pouiria Nur Mohammad Mehrdad, 19, said by police in Malaysia to be an Iranian asylum seeker on his way to Germany to meet his mother. The older man (right) remains unknown. But this still does not explain why the legs (and bag) of the older guy were shooped onto Mehrdad’s torso. There are also many other discrepancies in the passenger list, such as people who were reported to be on the flight now claiming to be at home.
Watch those legs and bag!
Watch those legs and bag!
From Diego Garcia to Where?

If suppose we are to assume that the plane was indeed diverted to Diego Garcia, it is reasonable to assume that the plane and its passengers would not be kept there indefinitely. If we are to follow the logic of some devoted conspiracy theorists who are pursuing this on other forums, the plane and its passengers would be flown to the Eastern mainland of the United States, over the Atlantic Ocean to escape scrutiny (and comparatively less distance than the other way around). Of course, the plane’s livery would be painted over. The plane’s wreckage would later be carefully deposited by (presumably by air) on a location far away from Diego Garcia. But why are we discussing this here? Because the same devoted conspiracy theorists who are pursuing this on other forums have pointed out that four days after the disappearance of MH370, a curious military exercise took place on the Southern-Eastern part of the United States coastline. Fighter jets were reportedly “escorting” a plane. To quote,

Members of the South Carolina Air National Guard are conducting an air defense exercise along the coast. Guard Senior Master Sergeant Edward Snyder says people might see fighter jets escorting a civilian aircraft Thursday over the North Charleston and Myrtle Beach areas.

Add to that, there is historical precedent suggesting that some very suspicious crashes at sea may have been more than just crashes. The following are some well known examples.

In 1983, KAL007 was headed to South Korea, with an American Congressman on board. The Congressman was on a mission to warn the South Korean leadership that the United States government had been compromised by the Soviets. The plane disappeared at sea. After the fall of the Soviet Union, there was some evidence that the Congressman was imprisoned in a gulag. The United States government didn’t seem to have a problem with this arrangement.
The 1998 crash of SWR111 in Canadian territorial waters. The plane was carrying diamonds, rubies, emeralds and other gems in its cargo hold, which were worth half a billion dollars. They were being transferred from a bank in America to a bank in Switzerland. None of these were ever recovered. It is possible that the plane was diverted to a Canadian airport. Also on board was Saudi prince Al-Saud Bandar, one of the richest men in the world. Only 60 No bodies were recovered.
The 2009 crash of AF447 in the Atlantic Ocean.
Update: A Tentative Theory of What’s Going on….

The most unusual aspect of this case is that the plane has mysteriously vanished, and the Powers That Be are well aware that such a scenario raises more questions than answers. It could be possible that The Powers That Be arranged to have the “wreckage” deposited along the plane’s intended route, diverting attention away from Diego Garcia. But in an unprecedented turn of events, Malaysian authorities started focusing on the Indian Ocean, with good reason. Therefore the Powers That Be are suddenly faced with the challenge of depositing another “wreckage,” in the Indian Ocean, in such a short period of time, in an area now subject to global scrutiny, and again, away from Diego Garcia. And therefore the unusual delay in presenting the wreckage.

The other alternative is that there was never intended to be any wreckage, and like another plane that vanished in Angola, the plane may be used in a future nuclear 9/11 to kickstart Globalist wars. Even if this is the case, the plane would still be diverted to Diego Garcia, and “retrofitted” in USA, because Iran simply lacks the technical knowhow.

Resources

Professional Pilots Rumour Network (Note that this is a fairly technical forum, and conspiracy theories are being deleted)

Twitter search for #MH370 and #Diego Garcia

A Malaysian Source (Regularly Updated)

Maps of the supposed flight route.

CNN coverage (Warning Disinfo)

Several aggregated newsfeeds

Coverage on the Wall Street Journal (Warning Disinfo; This publication is associated with the Rothschilds)

A continuously updated Timeline of events courtesy the MI-6 Guardian

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World's first cyber hijack: Was missing Malaysia Airlines flight hacked with mobile phone?
INTELLIGENCE chiefs fear the missing Malaysian airliner was hijacked by hackers taking over the controls using a mobile phone.
By: James Fielding and Stuart WinterPublished: Sun, March 16, 2014
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/465126/Missing-Malaysia-Airlines-p lane-may-have-been-cyber-hijacked-using-mobile-phone
British anti-terror expert Dr Sally Leivesley said last night: “It might well be the world’s first cyber hijack.”

Dr Leivesley, a former Home Office scientific adviser, said the hackers could change the plane’s speed, altitude and direction by sending radio signals to its flight management system. It could then be landed or made to crash by remote control. Possible culprits include criminal gangs, terrorists or a foreign power.
The chilling new theory emerged as the hunt for the missing Malaysia Airways Boeing 777 with 239 people on board became the biggest air-sea search in history.
More than a week after Flight MH370 vanished en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, Malaysian police began searching the captain and co-pilot’s homes as it was finally confirmed that the disappearance was a “deliberate act”.
Dr Leivesley, who runs her own company training businesses and governments to counter terrorist attacks, told the Sunday Express she believes a framework of malicious codes, triggered by a mobile phone, would have been able to override the aircraft’s security software.
“There appears to be an element of planning from someone with a very sophisticated systems engineering understanding,” she said.
“This is a very early version of what I would call a smart plane, a fly-by-wire aircraft controlled by electronic signals.
“It is looking more and more likely that the control of some systems was taken over in a deceptive manner, either manually, so someone sitting in a seat overriding the autopilot, or via a remote device turning off or overwhelming the systems.
“A mobile phone could have been used to do so or a USB stick.
“When the plane is air-side, you can insert a set of commands and codes that may initiate, on signal, a set of processes.”
Dr Leivesley said the hacking threat was laid bare late last year at a science conference in China.
She explained: “What we are finding now is that it is possible with a mobile phone to initiate a signal to a preset piece of malicious software, or malware, in the computer that ­initiates a whole set of instructions.
“It is possible for hackers, be they part of organised crime or with government backgrounds, to get into the main computer network of the plane through the inflight, onboard entertainment system.
“If you have got any connections whatsoever between the computing systems, you can jump across and you can get into the flight critical ­system.
“To really protect your computer systems, you do not let anything ­connect with them and you would keep the inflight systems totally in their own loop so nothing whatsoever connects.
“There are now a number of ways, however, in which the gap between those systems and a handheld device like a mobile phone can be overcome.”
Last April, German security consultant Hugo Teso, who is also a commercial pilot, unveiled a way to hijack a plane remotely using a phone.
Addressing the Hack In The Box security summit in Amsterdam, he said he had spent three years dev­eloping a series of malicious codes on a mobile phone app called PlaneSploit that hacked into an aircraft’s security system.

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Why would the Israelis have a plane identical to the missing plane in a hanger in Tel Aviv?
Bringing the information to the public may very well prevent the Israelis from going ahead with their planned plot.
http://www.bollyn.com/are-the-israelis-planning-another-9-11-using-the -missing-777/

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The disappearance of the Malaysian Boeing 777 looks like something from a Batman movie plot - or a bad Israeli screenplay by Arnon Milchan and his business partner Rupert Murdoch. The missing plane is bound to turn up sooner or later. The hijackers - or Israeli computer hackers - didn't pull a fast turn to the west and make professional moves with the plane in order to simply drop it in the Indian Ocean. Or maybe they did. In any case, all of the events going on with the missing Boeing and the Ukrainian crisis look like the making of a perfect storm - or perhaps another false-flag terror spectacle like 9-11.

An Israel-based reporter named Paul Alster has an article on Murdoch's FoxNews.com giving an Israeli prognosis about the missing Malaysian Boeing 777. The article is important because it suggests that the Israelis may be setting the stage for a false-flag event using the missing plane as a flying bomb.

The article indicates that the Israelis may be projecting a planned terror scenario and are planting the idea in the public mind. The following article has comments from an Israeli El Al "security expert" that are very similar to comments tweeted by Rupert Murdoch the day before. Isn't it interesting that Rupert Murdoch and an Israeli airline security expert imagine the exact same fate for the missing Boeing?


MURDOCH'S COMMENTS ON MISSING PLANE

Obama should call Chinese President following today's incident and say "we both have the problem of Muslim terrorism. Can we work together?"
3:50 AM - 2 Mar 2014

777 crash confirms jihadists turning to make trouble for China. Chance for US to make common cause, befriend China while Russia bullies.
4:15 PM - 9 Mar 2014

World seems transfixed by 777 disappearance. Maybe no crash but stolen, effectively hidden, perhaps in Northern Pakistan, like Bin Laden.
2:23 AM - 15 Mar 2014

777. Still think this a reminder that US and China should be working more closely on Muslim extremist threat.
2:26 AM - 15 Mar 2014

The Israeli comments in the article imagine a terror scenario like that described by Murdoch. It is important to note that the Israeli El Al "security expert" comes from the exact same groups (ICTS, El Al security, Menachem Atzmon, the Shin Bet and assorted Mossadniks), who projected the ideation of 9-11 (Murdoch’s "Lone Gunmen" pilot episode in 2000 and Arnon Milchan's Medusa Touch film in 1978) - and who were involved in the false-flag attacks of 9-11.

This is exactly what the evidence I present in my Solving 9-11 books reveals about Israeli involvement in the false-flag terrorism of 9-11. The fact that the same people are now projecting the ideation that the Boeing 777 has been hijacked (perhaps by computer like in the "Lone Gunmen") and will be used in a terror attack needs to be taken very seriously.

The game is on. We need to be aware of the very real possibility that the plane may resurface, used as a weapon of terror. If so, the attack would probably be designed to be a false-flag provocation that can be used to initiate aggression against a targeted foe – such as the Islamic Republic of Iran. If enough people understand the evil game of deception the Israelis are up to, they won't be able to pull off another major terror spectacle - and get away with it.

Here is the article by Paul Alster from FoxNews.com

Missing jet, Iranian threats, prompt Israel to tighten air security
By Paul Alster, March 17, 2014

HAIFA, Israel – Top Israeli defense officials have hurriedly put in place a confidential list of secret security measures in light of the baffling disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jumbo jet that experts fear could become a weapon of mass destruction if in the wrong hands.

With no trace of Beijing-bound flight MH370 after nine days, one of several theories that has emerged is that the plane was hijacked to Iran, where it could be turned into a massive and devastating weapon. Two Iranian passengers are known to have been aboard, travelling on false passports. While Israeli officials did not confirm any suspicions regarding Iran, experts said it is not a stretch to point the finger at Israel's Middle East nemesis.

“My guess is based upon the stolen passports, and I believe Iran was involved [in the disappearance of the plane],” Issac Yeffet, formerly a global security expert for Israel’s national airline El Al told today’s Times of Israel. “They hijacked the aircraft and they landed it in a place that nobody can see or find it.”

As the search continued to widen fruitlessly, Israeli security officials and aviation authorities, who have long feared a 9/11-style attack, conducted a security assessment and rapidly implemented a series of security measures. The only one reported publicly is that Israeli air traffic controllers will demand that incoming aircraft identify themselves earlier than has so far been the case, sources told FoxNews.com.

IDF officials aim to ensure an unthinkable repetition of the Twin Towers attack doesn’t happen in Tel Aviv, where the skyscraping triple Azrieli Towers rise high above the city. There's good reason to believe the three-tower commercial-residential-office complex is a coveted target of the Islamic Republic.

In a recent video simulation broadcast by Iranian state TV after the initial agreement with the international community on a reduction in Iran’s nuclear capability was signed, the Azrieli Towers were shown being blown up by Iranian missiles.

The Israeli media has speculated that if Iran played a part in the disappearance of the plane, it is all but certain the regime would not have been directly involved. It would likely instead act through a third party, using one of the many international terror organizations Iran sponsors and maintaining plausible deniability. Tehran would not want to jeopardize the easing of international sanctions and other gains made recently at the Geneva negotiations with the US and the P5+1.

The recent interception of a boatload of Iranian M-302 missiles headed for Israel’s enemies in the Gaza Strip or Sinai Peninsula has given rise to further speculation in Israel that Iran might be considering all manner of means to strike back after such an embarrassing and damaging loss.

“This would never have happened on an Israeli plane,” Yeffet said. “An El Al aircraft was hijacked for the first and last time in 1968. Since then, there has not been a single flight where security did not check every single name.”

Yeffet believes that the time consuming and often-criticized profiling of every passenger at Israeli airports would have picked up the Iranians travelling on false papers.

Most flights to and from Israel require check-in three hours before the advertised flight time and passengers are often faced with many questions (some personal) that some people take exception to. The fact remains though that the Israeli method seems to work and has, thus far, proved watertight.

“More security costs more money,” Menachem Yarden, a retired El Al pilot with more than 37 years experience told Fox News.com. “Few companies these days are making money because of increased costs and relatively low ticket prices. Especially in the U.S., spending more money on security and telling people to come 3 hours before the flight – even if their flight time is just one hour – it’s crazy. No-one would fly.”

Asked if air marshals - allegedly placed on every El Al plane - might have made a difference to flight MH370 if, as some believe, it has been hijacked, Yarden said, “As El Al pilots we didn’t know all the security measures [put in place]. Security is a separate matter [to piloting] and the fewer people that know about it, the more secure it is.”

Yarden said it is possible such a huge aircraft could have flown thousands of miles undetected.

“Yes. It is possible to fly as low as the pilot is able,” Yarden confirmed. “When you switch off the transponder no civil controller can see you. In 9/11 the pilots switched off the transponders and no one saw them. It is not like military radar which sends electromagnetic pulses that receives back the echo via antenna.”

“In this extraordinary case any theory might be the right theory,” Yarden concluded. “No one knows what’s happened.”

Sources:

"Ex-El Al expert: Iran likely involved in MH 370" by Debra Kamin, Times of Israel, March 16, 2014
www.timesofisrael.com/ex-el-al-expert-iran-likely-involved-in-mh-370/

“Missing jet, Iranian threats, prompt Israel to tighten air security” by Paul Alster, FoxNews.com, March 17, 2014
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/17/missing-jet-iranian-threats-pr ompt-israel-to-tighten-air-security/

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After the recent piece of misdirection regarding speed and flight times... even Forbes is opening up to the Most Likely Scenario...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/russellflannery/2014/03/27/an-important-fl ight-mh370-question-was-computer-hacking-involved/

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An Important Flight MH370 Question: Was Computer Hacking Involved?

(Note: This guest post was written by a China-based former military aviator who has held a commercial pilot’s license for more than 30 years and asked to remain anonymous.)

Malaysia announced this week that flight MH370 ended in the Indian Ocean. In the months to come, the “why” of this horrific tragedy doesn’t matter to the rest of the flying public so much as “how” it happened.

To that end, I have a theory — pretty far out there – that revolves around the ever-increasing role computers play in flying commercial jets. It also involves a stowaway and an act of cyber terrorism.

Unlike decades ago, pilots today don’t need to look outside the cockpit to fly the plane. They instead rely on glass panels that display digital instrument read-outs, GPS-based moving maps, and a host of other synthetic representations to “see” where they are and where they are going. The Boeing 777 was among the first of the modern generation of commercial airlines to not have direct physical control by pilots.
...

My theory about the “how” for MH370 tragedy boils down to this: a stowaway located himself in an electrical and avionics closet below the main cabin before anyone boarded the plane. [Ed note: the "stowaway" could easily just be a computer program - there is no need for human intervention] Shortly after takeoff he (or she) began to take control of the aircraft. He did this with a combination of his own portable electronic devices and a considerable knowledge of the systems on board. He also brought some sort of oxygen support. After he was confident that he could control the plane, he disabled the pressurization and the oxygen equipment in both the main cabin and the cockpit. With everyone soon incapacitated he put the aircraft on course for one of the most remote and inhospitable open oceans in the world. When the fuel ran out, he and all souls on board went down with the plane.

What is less important, to me, is “who” actually killed MH370’s passengers and crew. Such a person could be a former pilot who had lost his job to a younger, more computer savvy hire. He could have worked as a technician on the flight control system itself before returning to his home country of Malaysia. Revenge or ideology? We may never know.
[Ed Note: or state-sponsored terrorism! Rolling Eyes]

But we must, in the name of those who lost their life in this great tragedy, find out “how.” And while we are doing that we should ask the question: are the risks of hacking and manipulation of aviation computer systems by the ill-willed any different from that of hackers targeting the world’s financial systems and government and business offices?
[Ed Note: Rolling Eyes]


At least the concept of hacking is being articulated in a mainstream journal.

Huffington Post does a pooh-pooh on the remote hijacking...
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/17/malaysia-mh370-hacked_n_497 7688.html
...ignoring, of course, GWB's stated requirement of an anti-hijacker control system - which, by its very definition, would take control away from pilots.

Of course, the poor, poor relatives are adamant the plane had landed safely because of the the simple test they did: phoning their loved mobile phones and getting a connection! Strangely enough this is so easy to test. Try it: switch off your mobile phone and call it: do you get a ringing tone? No. Switch on mobile phone and call it: do you get a ringing tone? Yes.

So MSM cuts to "crazy" bereft families protesting in airports and outside embassies, don't let them speak, don't cover their protests except to portray them as crazy, foreign grievers.

cf 9/11 Sheeple view: "where were the crazy family victims there? See! QED" Rolling Eyes
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PROOF MH370 Is In Diego Garcia

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The math adds up in both miles and time frames with a 30 minute difference from the time the plane was spotted heading towards the southern tip of the Maldives. But, why? Who's to say!

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I don't think that video is 100% proof.

But this is something more substantial.... from a great source...

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Role of Israel and Soros Exposed by MH370 Twin Jet in Tel Aviv

By Yoichi Shimatsu

(Editor’s note: Soros is often cited as a major enemy of Israel. However, this piece is very worthy of consideration and Yoichi Shimatsu has made a worthy effort. Also see A Boeing 777 Coincidence USA )

BANGKOK – It is by no mere coincidence, when telltale evidence of a Mossad role in the MH370 hijack was starting to snowball, that Israel’s embassies and consulates were suddenly shut down due to a “strike by diplomatic staff”. This fork-tongued alibi was obviously meant to prevent law enforcement agencies across Asia and the Western world from questioning Israeli intelligence agents and military attaches about the whereabouts and fate of the hundreds of passengers.

The Jewish state’s diplomatic corps has retreated further into a tortoise shell, perhaps because of the hammer blow from investigative journalist Christopher Bollyn, who previously exposed Israel’s hand behind the 911 attacks. Based on eyewitness reports from a network of plane watchers in Europe and in Israel, Bollyn reports that an identical production model of the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 is being kept out of regular service inside a hangar at Tel Aviv Airport.

Seattle-based Boeing assembles aircraft in pairs as its standard practice, but the question is how one jet was leased by Malaysia’s national carrier while the matching plane was secretly turned over to the Israeli government without a purchase order from state-run El Al airlines.

Bollyn uncovered the fact that the two jets were delivered to a third-party company, whose top manager has a longtime connection with the George Soros. From the timeline of events, it is obvious that the plane transfers and subsequent electronic hijacking were part of a larger strategy, which was aimed at:

first, a planned alse-flag attack involving mass murder of American citizens to be blamed on the two Iranians aboard MH370, in order to prompt the White House to order air strikes against Iran’s nuclear facilities and air defenses; and

second, the blatant theft of key technology related to Freehold Semiconductor’s Kinesis microchip, the world’s tiniest microcontroller, for use in miniature weapons systems that will ensure Israeli military supremacy for decades to come.

Bait and Swtich

Why do the Israeli false flaggers need to hijack the Malaysian sister-plane, when just one plane will suffice for the ruse? The mint-condition jet in Tel Aviv would be refitted with Stealth cloaking, state-of-air avionics (aviation electronics, DU-tipped munitions and high-temperature explosives, but fake evidence of Malaysian origins are needed to complete the ruse. Therefore, identifying metal tags and other identifying parts have to be removed from MH370, along with seat covers, crew uniforms and the bodies of the two Iranians, to be frozen in a morgue. The deception would, be complete with the transfer of the stripped Malaysian jet to El Al.

The cover story for TIME and the New York Times would fly as easily as a captured jetliner, running something like “The Iranian hijackers overcame the crew and flew the jet into a military airfield in Iran. Then the Revolutionary Guards loaded the plane with gasoline drums for a suicide mission against innocent civilians and our congressmen in Washington DC. We mourn the loss of the Capitol and the White House in the intense blaze that destroyed half of our beloved capital, but we face the future with courage and will deliver justice against that terrorist state. The last of the Axis of Evil will share the fate of its erstwhile partners. Now, from the Superdome, let’s hear Lady Gaga sing the Star-Spangled Banner.” Those are fighting words that can snap average Americans out of their antiwar malaise. Yes, propaganda is made for consumption by fools.

Going Boeing: We Know Why We’re Here

Boeing’s motto is precision perfect when it comes to MH370. No other aircraft manufacturer (think of McDonnel Douglas, for example, or long-gone Hughes) is closer to the US intelligence services. More than a business corporation, Boeing is a state unto itself, with a vast network of facilities around Seattle and at every major airport around the globe. Less visible are its connections with obscure airlines operating in remote islands, where it is routine to find amputated limbs of human-sacrifice victims floating into Puget Sound. The company provides for all of its powerful customers needs, desires and wildest fantasies, as expressed in its older slogan: Forever New Frontiers.

One of those frontiers is remote piloting of civilian aircraft, based on drone warfare technology, which Boeing developed from prototypes designed in Israel. The pair of 777s for Malaysia and Israel are new editions, and therefore rigged to fly by wireless.

Boeing delivered the twin jets to a middleman in October 2013, who delivered one to Malaysian Airlines in November. The timing coincides with the appointment of Joanne Magruire, a veteran Lockheed Martin Space Division executive, to the board of directors of Freescale Semiconductors, whose Kuala Lumpur staffers involved in the design of the Kinesis KL02 microchip were aboard MH370. The plan went like clockwork.

Who is Abdol Moabery?

The twin Boeing jets were sold to GA Telesis, an aircraft leasing and servicing company, based in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. The owner of GAT is Abdol Moabery, the son of Iranian immigrants in the posh Woodlawn Hills suburb of Los Angeles.

Before and after September 2001, Moabery was executive manager of Skywatch, a company that supplied monitoring devices for the rooftops of office towers. The electronic device can spot as many as 300 flying objects in one sweep and single out the one flying toward the targeted property. Handy indeed to welcome your boss on the helipad in Manhattan and also to direct his pilot toward the right building.

One of the partners in Skywatch was New York City Mayor Rudolf Guiliani, who claimed his interest was solely in its potential application to monitor US borders against illegal immigrants. One immigrant who slipped past the Skywatch net was Mohamad Atta. Despite or perhaps because of Skywatch, the two jetliners flew into the Towers like Robin Hood’s arrows.

Six months after 911, Moabery left Skywatch to start up GA Telesis in Florida, a state then governed by fellow Republican Jeb Bush and where 911 suspects had extensive flight training.

Prior his term at Skywatch, Moabery served in the US Navy and then worked in executive positions for two Soros-owned aviation companies, Aviation Systems International and C-S Aviation. C-S stands for Chatterjee-Soros. Purnenda Chatterjee is a former Stanford Research Institute and McKinsey partner, whose Chatterjee Group funneled investment funds into West Bengal on behalf of his mentor Soros. In 2011, investors in North Carolina filed charges against Soros and his protege for fraud and embezzlement, an won the initial case by arguing that Soros concealed his ownership of the bankrupt company. Soros is not the Midas he pretends to be, often escaping out the back door leaving behind angry investors.

Lord of the Skies and Depths

The Boeing corporate vice-president for Southeast Asia is Ralph “Skip” Boyce, the former US ambassador to Jakarta and Bangkok. The prize job came as reward for his past services to Boeing, black operations and the pedophile network. After his retirement from government service, Skip didn’t break his stride:

-Boyce had just sold dozens of Boeing civilian aircraft to a new airline controlled by the Indonesian military just before the “accidental” crash of a demonstration model of a lower-cost Sukhoi Super 100 passenger plane for inexplicable reasons into a mountain after takeoff from the joint U.S.-Indonesian Halim Air Force Base. [Ed Note which we have covered at 911forum and thought was pretty suscipous]

Some background on the business-savvy man from Boeing:

- Boyce was on duty during the Bali bombing. Then editor of Jakarta Post Robert Finnegan, a retired Marine and founder of the 5th Estate news site, found evidence of high explosives and nuclear materials at the bomb site, which pointed to a US intelligence role in the killing of Australians undercover agents and Indonesian civilians. The ambassador in response arranged his removal from his editorship.

- Ambassador “Boyz” was the de facto dean of American envoys in Southeast Asia when anti-pedophile activist Sean Parlaman jumped off his apartment balcony in Pattaya, Thailand, according to local police on the pedophile payroll. His protection of high-ranking pedophiles in the State Department and Congress coincided with the discovery of the skeletons of 500 Indonesian boys inside a cave in Bali and intimidation of a Cambodian orphanage as a recruiting ground for sex slaves whose average age was 10 years old.

Boeing is certainly out there on the frontiers.

Dolphins at Diego Garcia

Instead of flying to Iran immediately, MH370 presumably landed at the gateway to the Persian Gulf, Diego Garcia, the presumption being based on eyewitness accounts in nearly Maldives of a low-flying plane on descent toward that destination.

On the surface and from satellite images, Diego Garcia seems a barren atoll. That’s because most of the US Navy and Air Force bases are underground inside vast bunkers installed a decade ago. The island, part of the British-owned Chagos archipelago south of India, later made headlines as the storage site for hundreds of bunker-buster JDAM bombs for a joint Israel-US airstrike against Iran’s nuclear facilities and air defenses.

The Israeli military and intelligence presence on Diego Garcia is so massive that long-distance phone operators offer a special discount card for calls to Israel. The Israeli Navy’s nuclear-missile capable Dolphin submarines refuel and are serviced at Diego Garcia, saving the time and expense of going to Elat on the Red Sea.

An IDF Dolphin sub from Diego Garcia sank the South Korean frigate Choenan. The Dolphin crew, panicked by the unscheduled voyage, fired a smart torpedo at the frigate. On the following two days, South Korean naval divers rescued several Caucasians, including two drowning victims, from a sunken submarine. That Dolphin submarine, based at an underwater base south of Inchon, was later replaced with an IDF order for a new sub from HDW Germany. Cannon fire from the Choenan’s sister ship had hit the Dolphin after it sank the Choenan, following delivered nuclear-weapons material to the North Korean military.

Israel is neck-deep in intrigue across Asia, including nuclear deals with North Korea and Japan. As mentioned earlier in this series on MH370, Israeli-linked agents including Google and Facebook have monitored email servers across Southeast Asia and hacked into computers of Palestinian supporters.

The role of Israeli intelligence assets inside Muslim-dominated Malaysia is a long-running issue that involves strings of stay-behind agents left by the British colonial authority. These underground networks are descended from two strands of Jewish administrators and merchants in colonial Malaya. First are those who have origins in the Ottoman empire and migrated under Britain’s favorable policy toward the Donmeh Jews (hidden Jews inside the Islamic community across the Arab realm, Turkey and Iran) during the Ataturk period. Second are Baghdadi Jews involved in the opium trade. More recent recruits are ordinary bureaucrats and military officers who are in need of a handful of shekels to pay their gambling debts.

The spotting of increasing amounts of flotsam and jetsam off the Australian coast are meant to throw public attention off track. In actual flotation situations, there would be less debris with each passing day, as seats become waterlogged and life jackets deflate. Obviously, submarines from Diego Garcia are jettisoning pieces of aircraft through their missile hatches with blasts of compressed air. Bodies can be frozen in morgues with life jackets to be partially opened before dispatching them out the torpedo tubes.

Soros Gets More Than a Pound

The Malaysian jetliner, and its hidden sibling in Tel Aviv, are the instruments that should have guaranteed Zionist supremacy over the global economic and political order throughout this century. Instead, their grandiose design is collapsing under its own fabrications and delusions, as Israeli envoys scurry into the shadows like rats under spotlights. The FBI and Interpol have a monumental task ahead. Crush Israeli terrorist apparatus and hunt down their cells until world civilization is safe again.

“Thieves, murderers and liars” are mere words that can hardly describe the crafty criminality of the Israeli spy chiefs. But what about their paymaster, what does Soros get out of the deal? For one thing, the Mossad turns over the Kinesis microchip technology as thanks for his patriotism. Chips aside, what Soros really, really wants is the satisfaction of payback against Malaysia. Few things are more important than money, and that short list includes revenge.

Israel MH370

The Hungarian Jew tycoon, who bought US citizenship after defrauding the Bank of England, has a die-hard grudge against Malaysia. During his cunning attempt to wreck the currencies of Southeast Asian, with the hidden agenda of buying assets and property on the cheap, Soros was slammed down by Malaysia’s then Prime Minister Muhammad Mahathir, who imposed a currency board to stop capital flight. That was back in 2008. (The Zionist-influenced Western media and Wall Street bankers quickly denounced Mahathir as “anti-semitic”, forgetting out of their dismal cultural ignorance that an Asian Muslim cannot be such since fellow believers across the Arab world are more Semitic than European Jews.)

If revenge is a dish best served cold, Soros has ice in his veins and waited till his dying days to gouge out a pound of flesh from Malaysia’s body politick.

At the risk of sounding as soft as Lady Portia with her aristocratic Venetian accent, let me suggest that the world community is to be governed with compassion for the poor and genuine democracy, and not by a top-down global order imposed with violence and greed from a self-appointed religious minority. So as the noose tightens on that little rogue state that would be king of our planet, let us mourn the victims of Flight 370 as much as we grieved over those who died inside the World Trade Center. Such bloodthirsty evil should never be allowed to strike again.

Yoichi Shimatsu, former editor with the Japan Times group in Tokyo, is a Hong Kong-based science writer.


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I don't think that video is 100% proof.

But this is something more substantial.... from a great source...

http://www.sovereignindependentuk.co.uk/2014/03/28/latest-posts-role-o f-israel-and-soros-exposed-by-mh370-twin-jet-in-tel-aviv-top-10-vetera ns-stories-in-todays-news-march-26-2014-adl-deceit-sinks-judgeship-t/


No - agreed - but we had a good go at the subject last night#

MH370 evidence of military Information Warfare (I-Ops) Rolls Royce & Maldives denials

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