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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DIS remain rather more attached to the truth than MI6, so when Defence Minister Gavin Williamson tweeted out a thrilled endorsement of Bellingcat’s work on Colonel Chepiga, DIS urgently advised that he delete it. Which he did.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/09/spy-games/

Which is not to say DIS are sure it is not Chepiga; rather they believe – as would anyone with half a brain – that the Bellingcat photo falls a long way short of proof. The British security services have been unable to stand up the ID with facial recognition technology. The experts are describing the Boshirov/Chepiga identification as “possible”.

I have this information from an impeccable Whitehall source, who told me there is a concern in the security services that runs like this. They genuinely believe Boshirov and Petrov are GRU agents and the would-be assassins. (I judge that my source themself believes the security services really do think this). Bellingcat, while they are sometimes fed security service material, did not in fact get fed the Chepiga material by the CIA or MI6, whether or not through a cutout. The security services are worried the Chepiga ID may be a blind alley fed to Bellingcat’s sources by the FSB. If the UK government endorses it, this could be followed by the Russians producing Chepiga and apparently discrediting the entire British narrative.

Hence the fact no charge has been laid against Chepiga, and the charges are still in the name of “Boshirov”, plus the fact that no British minister or official has named Chepiga, with only the fool Williamson stepping out of line and being slapped down.

Please note I am not endorsing the views and beliefs of the British intelligence services; I am reporting them.

Russia is fascinating at the moment. Komsomolskaya Pravda reports Ministry of Interior identification experts unofficially endorsing the Chepiga/Boshirov identity. Now there is no way these experts in the Ministry of the Interior – who would not be hard for the authorities to single out – would have done that for Komsomolskaya Pravda without an official nod. Either the Russians are indeed egging on the British into a false identification, or some inter-agency rivalry is afoot in Russia. This follows on the very open report in Kommersant – which is very close to Putin – that opinion was divided in Chepiga’s home village.

None of which brings us an awful lot closer to the truth of what happened in Salisbury, which I suspect is a great deal more complicated than any official narrative. But it is a fascinating peek into a shadowy world most people never see inside, with which I was once familiar.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By far the best piece on this story so far, from the experts

Whitehall_Bin_Men wrote:
SKRIPAL CASE: ISRAELI EXPERT ON THE WORK OF THE SPECIAL AGENTS
Date of publication: 28 09 2018, 12:05
https://en.news-front.info/2018/09/28/skripal-case-israeli-expert-on-t he-work-of-the-special-agents/

An Israeli expert on international terrorism, writer Alexander Brass, shared his view on the case of the Skripals poisoning in Salisbury. Brass draws parallels between the work of the special services of Israel and Russia – he believes that if to compare the British version with the practice of the special agents, then the absurdity becomes obvious.
“Alexander, so what, in your opinion, happened in Salisbury?”
-There was a rough provocation by the British special services. In my opinion, this is obvious.
– Why do you think so?
“There’s a lot of stupidity on stupidity.” The story with Petrov and Boshirov does not hold up any professional peer review. According to the Brits, the Skripals were poisoned by GRU agents (this is what the department is called, although this is now the Main Directorate of the RF General Staff).
I want to explain how the special services work. If you need someone to eliminate, then this is a very serious operation, which is being prepared for a long time. A very significant material and human resource is allocated. We are talking about dozens of employees. On the territory of this state, an “advanced command post” is being created.
In the operation, a technical support group, a logistic group, a cover group, an external surveillance group and a group of performers are involved.
The performers themselves appear at the very last moment. They do not go anywhere, lighting up on cameras, do not use public transport, but move on rented cars, which they do not rent themselves. And the more they will not stop in hotels, but will live on safe houses provided by the logistics group.
Such groups do not come under the passport of their country, do not go to the embassy for obtaining a visa, leaving fingerprints. This is complete nonsense. Professionals do not work that way.
If the GRU acted, both the killers and the other participants in the operation would come to the UK on the passports of other countries that have visa-free relations with it. Here, two alleged GRU officers go to the embassy, ​​leave their fingerprints there, get a visa, stop at the hotel, pass under all the cells. This you will not find even in ladies’ detective novels.
– Maybe it is unprofessionalism associated with the degradation and decay, which after the collapse of the Soviet Union took place in all structures and institutions of society, including in the special services? Lost skills, methods, no one to teach young people. There is such an opinion.
– This is an opinion at the level of kitchen conversations. Where did the armed forces and the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation manage to raise such a “bardak” to such a level as they could organize the World Cup and the Olympics at such a high level? The GRU has always been and remains one of the most professional and most intelligent intelligence agencies in the world.
If the GRU decided to eliminate Skripal, then I have a question: why was the “Novichok” used? This is not a remedy, it’s a chemical weapon of mass destruction. It’s like dropping an atomic bomb on a city to kill one criminal. When special services eliminate an object, they always try to do it so that no autopsy shows that he was poisoned.
– Can you give examples?
– I can give many examples. In 1978, the well-known international terrorist Vadia Haddad, one of the founders of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), was killed. “Mossad” did not take responsibility for this, but sewed in a bag you can not hide. A potent biological poison was mixed with chocolate. Within three months he died of a painful and incomprehensible illness in the GDR clinic. His autopsy was conducted at the University of East Berlin. No trace of poison was found. The doctors assumed that he died of leukemia.
– How did you know that he was killed by Mossad?
– Information about this began to leak a few years ago. It came from Algeria. One of the former Mossad agents during another trial gave evidence that he witnessed how this happened, calling the specific names of the performers. This man also confirmed that he was a participant in this operation. This information was also confirmed by other, non-overlapping sources.
– Were there any cases when the Mossad operation ended unsuccessfully and the enemies of Israel were still alive?
– Take the last unsuccessful attempt of the Israelis to kill Khaled Mashaal, one of the leaders of the terrorist organization Hamas. He would have been killd if he had not been given an antidote at the last minute.
Everything happened on September 25, 1997 on one of the streets of Amman – the capital of Jordan. Just some passer-by, who was next to Mashaal, “accidentally” stumbled and splashed the liquid from the can of Coke to his neck. The next day Mashal would have died of a heart attack, and no traces. But the performers were seized on the spot. After that, the King of Jordan Hussein demanded that Israel provide an antidote, and in return promised to release Israeli agents.
– That is, substances that leave no traces are not detected by expertise and imitate death from the disease, the secret services have long been known?
– That’s it. Could the GRU not have been able to use some other poison, and not the “Novichok”, which leaves traces everywhere? If such technologies were in the special services already in the 1950s, do not the GRU have them today?
Let’s talk about the cameras. The UK on this some kind of fad. In no country in the world there is such a number of surveillance cameras per capita.
If I’m not mistaken, about one camera for 15 people. Literally every meter is looked through. MI5, the British counterintelligence service, is considered one of the best in the world. And if Britain took care of Skripal, he was very well guarded. At least his house was hung with all the cameras, which are only possible.
If, according to MI5, these agents visited Salisbury, they came to the house of Skripal and coated the door handle with this substance – so show the records from the cameras! How can it be that it was at this point that the cameras suddenly turned off?
“But maybe these agents found the cameras and turned them off?”
“If you say that the GRU has deteriorated so badly that it has lit up everywhere and left its mark, why did this degraded intelligence agency manage to turn off the surveillance cameras near the Skripal house at the right time?” Where is the logic?
– When our agents killed the Chechen terrorist Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev in Qatar, they got caught and were captured by the local police. True, they carried out the task …
“And how many Israeli agents were arrested?” This does not mean degradation. I do not know what happened after the collapse of the USSR in the GRU, but I know what happened in the Foreign Intelligence Service, since I had been friends with one of the very high-ranking officers of this service for many years in retirement. We had very close, friendly relations with him for many years. Unfortunately, he died a few years ago.
He told me that the degradation of the special services is only an appearance. He retired, because he already had years of service and he did not agree with the mess that was going on in the country. But there was no mess in the secret services! Who wanted to – left. But was there a leak of information? Have they discovered an agent network? Agents of Soviet special services worked all over the world. Have any of them suffered? No one. The mess can be anywhere, but not in the special services.
– Let’s admit. All this really looks strange – first let out Skripal, then kill him. Would not it be easier to just leave him in jail?
– Now about the personality of Sergei Skripal himself. The main version, which is voiced by the British side, is revenge. But in special services there is no such thing as revenge. Neither the Israelis, nor the Russians. Only the Cubans had it. We must understand that the special services are a very practical organization. Why revenge? A person is eliminated only when he can cause real harm. The Skripal has already done harm. He could not do more harm.
– For example, as a lesson to other potential traitors, no?
– No. I once asked my acquaintances who worked in your special services (I have never had any contact with active staff, only with retirees): “Why did not Kalugin be killed?” And they answered me with a counter question: “Why haven’t you eliminated the defector? “I said: he has already done harm. To eliminate him, it is necessary to develop a very serious operation, to send people, people should risk their lives. For the sake of what – for the sake of revenge? They say: “For the same reason, we do not touch Kalugin and do not touch anyone.” Israelis are not even exterminated by former terrorists. At the moment when the terrorist stops terrorist activities, regardless of what he did before, he is left alone. The only ones who were persecuted to the end were Nazi criminals.
– There is an opinion that he was eliminated because he taught at the counterintelligence school and taught young employees how to deal with the GRU.
– And what, in MI5, except for Skripal, no one knows how to do it? I think they know it better than him.
– In such cases, there is a very simple practice. When Skripal was taken on treason, he probably was intelligibly explained: either you go to life imprisonment and you will be in solitary confinement somewhere beyond the Arctic Circle, or you will receive 12 years of strict regime in the European part of Russia. But for this, you must fully tell what you have handed over, and give evidence. To cooperate with the investigation.
Similarly, when the former colonel of the Defense Intelligence of Israel’s Defense Intelligence Department, I did not name him, went into business and got into debt.
He went to Lebanon to buy heroin and conduct a drug deal, and was captured by Hezbollah. He told everything he knew, inflicting enormous damage to Israel’s defense capability. Because he was an officer on this site, he worked for Lebanon.
The Israelis exchanged him, they pulled him out. He was told: let’s make a deal. You will not be prosecuted. But you must thoroughly, in every detail, tell what you told them. We need to know what they know. The same was with Skripal. And there was simply no need to eliminate him.
– So there was no motive for Russian special services?
– There was no motive. Then, imagine: they used “Novichok”, they carried it with them in a bottle from under the perfume. In the practice of special services this does not exist. Performers go light, with other people’s passports. They receive weapons on the spot. And when such a group of liquidators works, it works autonomously, without affecting the local residency. In case of failure, do not harm the residence. When the surveillance is working and the capture team is working, they do not know each other in person, they communicate only through certain communication channels.
– The question is also why the poison did not act instantly, and Skripal was still wandering about for a few hours.
– It’s a different matter. The British are so disrespectful to Russia that even provocation can not be done at a decent level. It’s even humiliating. Therefore, Russia does not comment on this in any way. And why is it necessary to comment on some kind of nonsense?
It took half a year to Brits to find the “suspects.” Although they left their full personal data and fingerprints in the embassy when they received visas. This is a separate nonsense. Then Russia said: please! Here they are, here’s their interview. If they were active GRU officers, they would not have left their fingerprints in the embassy for anything.
“Who are they?”
– I do not know who they are, but certainly not employees of special services. If the GRU needed to kill Skripal, he would now be dead. This would have been done quietly and without scandal.
“Why Britain needs this?”
– This is a well-thought-out strategy of demonization and international isolation of Russia. In the UK, as in the rest of the Western world, everything works very simply. Most people do not read newspapers at all. And those who read, do not understand half. But everyone sees the headlines. Provocation with the Skripals is needed to exclude the Russian Federation from the Commission for Investigating the Use of Chemical Weapons in Syria. This is a minimum program.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By far the best piece on this story so far, from the experts

Whitehall_Bin_Men wrote:
SKRIPAL CASE: ISRAELI EXPERT ON THE WORK OF THE SPECIAL AGENTS
Date of publication: 28 09 2018, 12:05
https://en.news-front.info/2018/09/28/skripal-case-israeli-expert-on-t he-work-of-the-special-agents/

An Israeli expert on international terrorism, writer Alexander Brass, shared his view on the case of the Skripals poisoning in Salisbury. Brass draws parallels between the work of the special services of Israel and Russia – he believes that if to compare the British version with the practice of the special agents, then the absurdity becomes obvious.
“Alexander, so what, in your opinion, happened in Salisbury?”
-There was a rough provocation by the British special services. In my opinion, this is obvious.
– Why do you think so?
“There’s a lot of stupidity on stupidity.” The story with Petrov and Boshirov does not hold up any professional peer review. According to the Brits, the Skripals were poisoned by GRU agents (this is what the department is called, although this is now the Main Directorate of the RF General Staff).
I want to explain how the special services work. If you need someone to eliminate, then this is a very serious operation, which is being prepared for a long time. A very significant material and human resource is allocated. We are talking about dozens of employees. On the territory of this state, an “advanced command post” is being created.
In the operation, a technical support group, a logistic group, a cover group, an external surveillance group and a group of performers are involved.
The performers themselves appear at the very last moment. They do not go anywhere, lighting up on cameras, do not use public transport, but move on rented cars, which they do not rent themselves. And the more they will not stop in hotels, but will live on safe houses provided by the logistics group.
Such groups do not come under the passport of their country, do not go to the embassy for obtaining a visa, leaving fingerprints. This is complete nonsense. Professionals do not work that way.
If the GRU acted, both the killers and the other participants in the operation would come to the UK on the passports of other countries that have visa-free relations with it. Here, two alleged GRU officers go to the embassy, ​​leave their fingerprints there, get a visa, stop at the hotel, pass under all the cells. This you will not find even in ladies’ detective novels.
– Maybe it is unprofessionalism associated with the degradation and decay, which after the collapse of the Soviet Union took place in all structures and institutions of society, including in the special services? Lost skills, methods, no one to teach young people. There is such an opinion.
– This is an opinion at the level of kitchen conversations. Where did the armed forces and the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation manage to raise such a “bardak” to such a level as they could organize the World Cup and the Olympics at such a high level? The GRU has always been and remains one of the most professional and most intelligent intelligence agencies in the world.
If the GRU decided to eliminate Skripal, then I have a question: why was the “Novichok” used? This is not a remedy, it’s a chemical weapon of mass destruction. It’s like dropping an atomic bomb on a city to kill one criminal. When special services eliminate an object, they always try to do it so that no autopsy shows that he was poisoned.
– Can you give examples?
– I can give many examples. In 1978, the well-known international terrorist Vadia Haddad, one of the founders of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), was killed. “Mossad” did not take responsibility for this, but sewed in a bag you can not hide. A potent biological poison was mixed with chocolate. Within three months he died of a painful and incomprehensible illness in the GDR clinic. His autopsy was conducted at the University of East Berlin. No trace of poison was found. The doctors assumed that he died of leukemia.
– How did you know that he was killed by Mossad?
– Information about this began to leak a few years ago. It came from Algeria. One of the former Mossad agents during another trial gave evidence that he witnessed how this happened, calling the specific names of the performers. This man also confirmed that he was a participant in this operation. This information was also confirmed by other, non-overlapping sources.
– Were there any cases when the Mossad operation ended unsuccessfully and the enemies of Israel were still alive?
– Take the last unsuccessful attempt of the Israelis to kill Khaled Mashaal, one of the leaders of the terrorist organization Hamas. He would have been killd if he had not been given an antidote at the last minute.
Everything happened on September 25, 1997 on one of the streets of Amman – the capital of Jordan. Just some passer-by, who was next to Mashaal, “accidentally” stumbled and splashed the liquid from the can of Coke to his neck. The next day Mashal would have died of a heart attack, and no traces. But the performers were seized on the spot. After that, the King of Jordan Hussein demanded that Israel provide an antidote, and in return promised to release Israeli agents.
– That is, substances that leave no traces are not detected by expertise and imitate death from the disease, the secret services have long been known?
– That’s it. Could the GRU not have been able to use some other poison, and not the “Novichok”, which leaves traces everywhere? If such technologies were in the special services already in the 1950s, do not the GRU have them today?
Let’s talk about the cameras. The UK on this some kind of fad. In no country in the world there is such a number of surveillance cameras per capita.
If I’m not mistaken, about one camera for 15 people. Literally every meter is looked through. MI5, the British counterintelligence service, is considered one of the best in the world. And if Britain took care of Skripal, he was very well guarded. At least his house was hung with all the cameras, which are only possible.
If, according to MI5, these agents visited Salisbury, they came to the house of Skripal and coated the door handle with this substance – so show the records from the cameras! How can it be that it was at this point that the cameras suddenly turned off?
“But maybe these agents found the cameras and turned them off?”
“If you say that the GRU has deteriorated so badly that it has lit up everywhere and left its mark, why did this degraded intelligence agency manage to turn off the surveillance cameras near the Skripal house at the right time?” Where is the logic?
– When our agents killed the Chechen terrorist Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev in Qatar, they got caught and were captured by the local police. True, they carried out the task …
“And how many Israeli agents were arrested?” This does not mean degradation. I do not know what happened after the collapse of the USSR in the GRU, but I know what happened in the Foreign Intelligence Service, since I had been friends with one of the very high-ranking officers of this service for many years in retirement. We had very close, friendly relations with him for many years. Unfortunately, he died a few years ago.
He told me that the degradation of the special services is only an appearance. He retired, because he already had years of service and he did not agree with the mess that was going on in the country. But there was no mess in the secret services! Who wanted to – left. But was there a leak of information? Have they discovered an agent network? Agents of Soviet special services worked all over the world. Have any of them suffered? No one. The mess can be anywhere, but not in the special services.
– Let’s admit. All this really looks strange – first let out Skripal, then kill him. Would not it be easier to just leave him in jail?
– Now about the personality of Sergei Skripal himself. The main version, which is voiced by the British side, is revenge. But in special services there is no such thing as revenge. Neither the Israelis, nor the Russians. Only the Cubans had it. We must understand that the special services are a very practical organization. Why revenge? A person is eliminated only when he can cause real harm. The Skripal has already done harm. He could not do more harm.
– For example, as a lesson to other potential traitors, no?
– No. I once asked my acquaintances who worked in your special services (I have never had any contact with active staff, only with retirees): “Why did not Kalugin be killed?” And they answered me with a counter question: “Why haven’t you eliminated the defector? “I said: he has already done harm. To eliminate him, it is necessary to develop a very serious operation, to send people, people should risk their lives. For the sake of what – for the sake of revenge? They say: “For the same reason, we do not touch Kalugin and do not touch anyone.” Israelis are not even exterminated by former terrorists. At the moment when the terrorist stops terrorist activities, regardless of what he did before, he is left alone. The only ones who were persecuted to the end were Nazi criminals.
– There is an opinion that he was eliminated because he taught at the counterintelligence school and taught young employees how to deal with the GRU.
– And what, in MI5, except for Skripal, no one knows how to do it? I think they know it better than him.
– In such cases, there is a very simple practice. When Skripal was taken on treason, he probably was intelligibly explained: either you go to life imprisonment and you will be in solitary confinement somewhere beyond the Arctic Circle, or you will receive 12 years of strict regime in the European part of Russia. But for this, you must fully tell what you have handed over, and give evidence. To cooperate with the investigation.
Similarly, when the former colonel of the Defense Intelligence of Israel’s Defense Intelligence Department, I did not name him, went into business and got into debt.
He went to Lebanon to buy heroin and conduct a drug deal, and was captured by Hezbollah. He told everything he knew, inflicting enormous damage to Israel’s defense capability. Because he was an officer on this site, he worked for Lebanon.
The Israelis exchanged him, they pulled him out. He was told: let’s make a deal. You will not be prosecuted. But you must thoroughly, in every detail, tell what you told them. We need to know what they know. The same was with Skripal. And there was simply no need to eliminate him.
– So there was no motive for Russian special services?
– There was no motive. Then, imagine: they used “Novichok”, they carried it with them in a bottle from under the perfume. In the practice of special services this does not exist. Performers go light, with other people’s passports. They receive weapons on the spot. And when such a group of liquidators works, it works autonomously, without affecting the local residency. In case of failure, do not harm the residence. When the surveillance is working and the capture team is working, they do not know each other in person, they communicate only through certain communication channels.
– The question is also why the poison did not act instantly, and Skripal was still wandering about for a few hours.
– It’s a different matter. The British are so disrespectful to Russia that even provocation can not be done at a decent level. It’s even humiliating. Therefore, Russia does not comment on this in any way. And why is it necessary to comment on some kind of nonsense?
It took half a year to Brits to find the “suspects.” Although they left their full personal data and fingerprints in the embassy when they received visas. This is a separate nonsense. Then Russia said: please! Here they are, here’s their interview. If they were active GRU officers, they would not have left their fingerprints in the embassy for anything.
“Who are they?”
– I do not know who they are, but certainly not employees of special services. If the GRU needed to kill Skripal, he would now be dead. This would have been done quietly and without scandal.
“Why Britain needs this?”
– This is a well-thought-out strategy of demonization and international isolation of Russia. In the UK, as in the rest of the Western world, everything works very simply. Most people do not read newspapers at all. And those who read, do not understand half. But everyone sees the headlines. Provocation with the Skripals is needed to exclude the Russian Federation from the Commission for Investigating the Use of Chemical Weapons in Syria. This is a minimum program.

Tags: EU; Russia; Skripal case; UK

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We should be asking for answers about the Skripals and Bellingcat – and not just from Russia
Bellingcat has grown rather a lot beyond its shoestring origins. It has money – where from? It has been hiring staff. It has transatlantic connections. It has never, so far as I am aware, reached any conclusion that is inconvenient to the UK or US authorities
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/skripals-bellingcat-gru-novichok- anatoly-chepiga-alexander-mishkin-putin-russia-a8577161.html

Mary Dejevsky @IndyVoices
Wednesday 10 October 2018 11:15

It is now more than seven months since assassins from Russia’s military intelligence service tried to kill a former double agent and his daughter with a nerve agent in Salisbury. Or did they? The only incontrovertible fact in that assertion is the location, Salisbury. Pretty much everything else remains speculative.

The Skripal case has troubled me since the first news broke in March. It is not the improbability of what was reported to have happened – improbable things are the stuff of news. It is rather the mixture of utter certainty, unsubstantiated claims and glaring information gaps that is so disconcerting, from the immediate rush by UK officials to blame the Russian state, to the way the main figures in this drama have simply vanished, and now to the contradictions that have gained blithe, and almost universal, acceptance.

When the Metropolitan Police showed the passports of two Russians they believed to be the assassins, they strongly hinted that the names on the documents were false. The invitation to establish their real names was taken up by investigative organisation Bellingcat, which has now – amid a blizzard of documentation, seductive reference to “open source” techniques, and not a little help from Russian whistleblowers – come up with what it says are their real identities.

One of them is Colonel Anatoly Chepiga; the other is a medically qualified agent called Alexander Mishkin, and both have received state honours from President Putin.

What’s so suspect about this, you may ask. Well, let’s start with Bellingcat, which has presented itself in the past as a microcosm of well-meaning and very British amateurishness, based in a Leicestershire bedroom, producing results that put the professional sleuths to shame. In fact, Bellingcat has grown rather a lot beyond its shoestring origins. It has money – where from? It has been hiring staff. It has transatlantic connections. It has never, so far as I am aware, reached any conclusion – whether on the downing of the Malaysian plane over eastern Ukraine, or chemical weapons use in Syria, or now, with the Skripals – that is in any way inconvenient to the UK or US authorities.

That need not cast doubt on its findings. But should the authenticity of the documents it cites not be subject, at very least, to the same scrutiny as might be applied to other evidence? And when, as this week, UK officials say they do not “dispute” Bellingcat’s identification of Chepiga and Mishkin, does this not prompt a few questions about whether, say, our “agencies” reached the same conclusions long ago, but kept quiet, or why most of the UK’s media apparently find Bellingcat a more trustworthy source than the UK intelligence services (possible answer: Iraq)? Might not the group’s good name be being used to get information into the public domain that officials do not want to vouch for? And, if so, would this be to inform, or to mislead?

What else do I find troubling? How about the UK and US focus on Russian military intelligence, still referred to as the GRU? I don’t recall any specific Soviet or Russian agency being so clearly fingered in this way before. Accusations might have been levelled at the KGB – or its Russian successor, the FSB – but this was usually in a generic, not specific, sense. Why the change?

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It could be, of course, because the UK knows for certain that it was the GRU that targeted the Skripals. But it could equally be that officials simply assumed this because the GRU was Sergei Skripal’s agency, or because the GRU was already in the dock in the US for alleged involvement in hacking. Or it could be because it sounds much scarier than just saying “intelligence”, or even – though I concede this is unlikely – to make clear to Vladimir Putin that we are not blaming him, because the GRU was never “his” agency.

But there is a big contradiction here. On the one hand, the GRU is being presented as a bunch of duffers, whose decorated and highly qualified agents were booked into an east London dive, behaved badly, were deterred by a bit of snow, abysmally failed in their mission, and now face the wrath of Putin. On the other hand, we are told that the GRU is the crème de la crème of state agencies, that Russia is mighty and malevolent and that we should be very, very afraid. Which is it?

Lastly, let’s consider the connections that the UK public is being encouraged to make. Between the two Bellingcat identifications of Chepiga and Mishkin, a clutch of western states, including the UK and the US, came out with a coordinated condemnation of specific cases of Russian cyber-espionage. One related to the chemical weapons watchdog, the OPCW, back in April; another to the World Anti-Doping Agency in Switzerland. All this was presented to the UK public at least in the context of the Skripal case.

But there is a broader and more obvious explanation for Russia’s “behaviour” here – which is that, whether in sport or in matters of chemical weapons, the western allies have closed ranks to exclude Russia from information it is entitled to as a member of these international organisations. In such circumstances, wouldn’t you try to find out what was going on? Might you not also wonder why an apparent attack in an English city was being treated not as a crime – so a police matter – but as “the first use of a chemical weapon in Europe since the Second World War”, which allowed it to be immediately shut behind the impenetrable wall that supposedly protects UK intelligence and state security?

And the point that troubles me. For all the “revelations” of recent days, we are no further forward in knowing what happened to the Skripals – or to Dawn Sturgess, who remains the only person to have died, or to her partner, Charlie Rowley, who has now, like the Skripals and Detective Constable Nick Bailey, disappeared from the media. The two men caught on CCTV in Salisbury may indeed be GRU agents – though why the GRU would squander its brightest and best on such an apparently incompetently executed operation raises doubts. But no UK court would convict them of even attempted killing on the “evidence” that has so far been produced.

The CCTV footage from Salisbury has huge lacunae – though it is established that the cameras were working in Salisbury that day – and does not include any of the pair less than 500m from the Skripals’ house, nor any of the Skripals themselves. Why not? We still do not know where they were for most of that Sunday morning, who they might have met, or for what purpose, or precisely when the presumed attack occurred. Those are huge gaps.

Now, it is also true that Russia’s information machine has hardly covered itself in glory. Its response to at least some of the UK accusations have been weak or in dubious taste, to put it mildly. The RT interview (which was also broadcast on Russian domestic TV) seemed designed to make the Salisbury “tourists” a laughing stock. And Russia has not been as vocal as might perhaps have been expected in demanding consular access to Yulia Skripal, which might seem to cast doubt on its claims of innocence.

But the flaws in the way Russia has presented its case are not my prime concern. I am in the UK, a British citizen and a UK journalist, and I find the evidence and the explanations so far offered by our own side in what is becoming an all-out information war both deficient and scandalously short on credibility – and so, I suggest, should you.

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Original news reports on 4th and 5th March were that Detective Nick Bailey was the first police officer to arrive at the scene at the park bench ... now the story has changed completely, it is now claimed that he went to the Skripals' house, with other officers, touched the front door handle, and then collapsed. Strange how he collapsed straight away, given that the Skripals only collapsed several hours after they had left home (and two hours before the alleged Russian assassins' train even arrived in Salisbury, raising the obvious question how they could have touched the handle when they weren't there! There is reportedly no cctv record of them returning home after they left home at 9.15am, whereas there are three cctv recordings showing their car leaving home in the morning. So how could the 'Novichok on door handle' scenario be possible?!)


Also, according to news reports at the time, it was initially believed by medical staff at Salisbury Hospital that it was a drugs overdose, and no special precautions were taken ... yet this report now claims that Hazmat suits were immediately worn at the park bench by firefighters! Why, since noone yet knew that it was 'a nerve agent'? Do they normally wear Hazmat suits when attending people who have If they were so suspicious immediately it happened at the park bench, then why were the doctors and nurses at the Hospital also similarly protected immediately the Skripals were admitted?

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EXCLUSIVE: Teenage girl describes moment she found collapsed Skripals
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Published by Henrietta Creasey at 8:31am 19th January 2019. (Updated at 9:17am 21st January 2019)
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Abigail McCourt has spoken about the Salisbury Novichok incident for the very first time.
The 16 year old, from Larkhill, was the first to spot two people collapsed on a bench in the Maltings on March 4th and didn't hesitate to help.
Abigail believed Sergei Skripal was having a heart attack.
The teen, who was out celebrating her brother's birthday quickly alerted her mum who is a nurse and together they gave first aid to the two Russians until paramedics arrived.
Abby used the first aid skills she had learned at school to help the pair, putting Yulia in the recovery position.
Maltings Novichok incident
The bench in the Maltings where the Skripals were found unconscious became part of a major crime scene.
Abby and her mum had to undergo hospital tests to make sure they weren't contaminated with Novichok.
It was an anxious time for the family but Abby says she has "no hesitation" that she would do the same thing again despite the risk to herself.
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Abigail McCourt collects her award from Ellie Smith, of Smith England
Immediately following the incident and with the world's media focused on Salisbury, the pair didn't want any want press attention and kept their involvement quiet.
The key role Abby played has only come to light now because her mum,nominated her for the Lifesaver Award at Spire FM's Local Hero Awards.
Alison felt the the time was right for her daughter to be recognised for the "incredible" way she dealt with the scenario.
The judges were unanimous in their decision that Abigail was a very worthy winner.
Mum Alison, says she's extremley proud of Abby:
"As a qualified nurse it was a fairly routine situation for me but my daughter was amazing. Her prompt actions, spotting them in difficulty, and the way she assisted me to put Yulia Skripal in the recovery position had a significant impact on the outcome of the two victims."
Last night (19th January) Abby collected her award in front of 150 guests including the Chief Constable of Wiltshire Police.
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Afterwards Abby gave her first ever interview to event hosts Martin Starke and Henrietta Creasey from Spire FM:

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First responder in Skripal poisoning turns out to be Britain’s most senior military nurse
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First responder in Skripal poisoning turns out to be Britain’s most senior military nurse
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Sergei and Yulia Skripal were given first aid by the British Army’s most senior nurse, who just happened to be nearby, according to a new report – adding further intrigue to the highly controversial case.
The latest development in the Salisbury poisoning affair will fuel the claims of skeptics, who don’t believe the official British narrative. UK authorities have claimed that the former double agent and his daughter were targeted by the Russian government in a bizarre failed assassination plot involving a military-grade nerve agent.

It was previously reported by British media that the first person to provide medical assistance to the Skripals after they collapsed on a bench in Salisbury was “an off-duty nurse who had worked on the Ebola outbreak in Sierra Leone.”

However, the healthcare professional turned out to be not just any nurse. She was Colonel Alison McCourt, a veteran service member who currently holds the position of chief nursing officer in the British Army.

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The revelation emerged after her daughter Abigail, 16, was given a Local Hero award from Spire FM, a local radio station. According to a story broadcast by the radio last weekend, Abigail noticed that the Skripals were not well, misdiagnosed Sergei as having suffered a heart attack, and called her mom. The teen, who has first-aid training, then assisted her mother in providing CPR.

Spire FM explained why the story was kept in the dark for almost a year, saying neither of the McCourt women had wanted media attention after the two people they helped turned out to be victims of a high-profile crime that pitted the UK and Russia against each other in a bitter war of accusations and stonewalling.


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However, Colonel McCourt, who herself was decorated for her deployment to fight Ebola in Sierra Leone, decided that her daughter also deserved an award and proposed her as a candidate.

Skeptics will say it’s a hell of a coincidence that Britain’s most senior military nurse and her family were celebrating her son’s birthday at just the right time, and in just the right place, to get involved in arguably the decade’s biggest spy scandal in Britain. Perhaps stranger things have happened…

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The British military lab that studies chemical weapons also just happens to be located near Salisbury. The victims of the poison, which the UK government have called Novichok, collapsed at the same time, hours after allegedly coming into contact with the substance on the door handle of Sergei Skripal’s front door.

The supposed bungling assassins proved to be so inept that they couldn’t dispose of the highly conspicuous murder weapon in a way in which it wouldn’t be found. And all this coincidentally occurred to cause scandal and distraction just as Britain was failing to negotiate favorable terms for its exit from the EU.

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1982 According to his LinkedIn account (no longer available) Pablo Miller graduated from Oxford University in 1982 with a degree in Modern Languages and History. Following graduation he attended the British Army officer training academy at Sandhurst.

His commission in the Royal Tank Regiment took him to Germany, Cyprus, Northern Ireland and Brunei.

1984 Lt. Pablo Miller was given some assistance by General Sir Desmond Langley in Cyprus.

1985 Captain Pablo Miller represented his division skiing in a race at which the starter was Princess Anne. Photos here: http://www.4and7royaltankregiment.com/1982-1985/

Yulia Skripal was born in Malta.

1995 Sergei Skripal, a colonel in the GRU, and a number of other Russians were recruited by Milller about this time. Russian author, Nikolai Luzan, in his espionage exposure “The Devil’s Counter-intelligence Dozen”, explains how Skripal was brought on board by the MI6 officer, Pablo Miller.

1997 Pablo Miller became First Secretary of the British embassy in Tallinn recruiting under the name of Antonio Alvarez de Hidalgo. As things stood Skripal was already on a nice little earner secretly importing wine from the GRU authorities enabling him to make extended business trips to Malta and Spain. On one of these the GRU colonel was introduced to a Spaniard named Luis. According to Luzan it was Luis who introduced Skripal to Miller (then posing as Antonio Alvarez de Hidalgo) and they went into business together.

Skripal was described as having a “thirst for profit”. He would sometimes take his wife, Lyudmilla, with him on his business trips. It seems however she knew nothing of his extra-business activities. Before entering into their partnership Miller took Skripal to a strip-club but it was not the Russian’s kind of thing and he went back home to his wife. Miller bought Skripal’s loyalty with a cheque-book and before long, using colleagues within the GRU, files had been collated on some 300 GRU employees.

1999 Skripal resigned from the GRU on health grounds. Soon after his resignation he was issued with a passport and went abroad. Again he made contact with Pablo Miller and resumed espionage activities, this time providing details on the structure of the GRU. Skripal was a greedy man. Greedy men are rarely if ever driven by morals in their decision-making. British Intelligence personnel would have known this and Skripal met with MI6 personnel frequently. He met them in the seaside resort of Izmir in Turkey under the pretence of being a tourist.

This year the Tomlinson list of 116 British Intelligence Officers was released. Apparently Pablo Miller’s name is not on the list and the controllers of the World Wide Web have done a creditable job in wiping clean this list from the internet. There are still a few hard copies available.

2000 Valery Oyamae was another recruit of Pablo Miller’s. Oyamae lived in Moscow and made frequent trips to Estonia. At the time Pablo Miller was operating from the British Embassy in Tallinn as its First Secretary – a cover for his intelligence work. On 15 March 2000 at 7 p.m. Oyamae was arrested at the Leningradsky railway station, Moscow, on espionage charges. He had risen through the ranks of the KGB becoming a senior officer. Though Oyamae was not mentioned by name at the time of his arrest, Pablo Miller, his minder, was named in both Russian and English-reading press.

While Skripal’s handler was Pablo Miller, Miller was answering to Christopher Steele in MI6.

Scot William Hine (or Hein) and Estonian Sergei Petrenko (see 2001) were arrested in Tallin on drug-smuggling charges. They were caught in possession of £2.4 million worth of heroin concealed in the fuel tank of the car they were driving. It is not clear if Robert Bruce Wright and Leslie Brown were with them at the time but they never stood trial.

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Pablo Miller in his younger de Hidalgo days (Courtesy ВЕСТИ)

2001 On 23 April 2001 Valery Oyamae was sentenced to seven years in prison in a Moscow court under article 275. His property was confiscated. Until sentence was pronounced his name had been kept out of the Russian and western media.

This year there was an extradition request from Estonia to the UK for Robert Bruce Wright (35) and Leslie Brown (44) wanted under suspicion of drug-smuggling in conjunction with William Hein (42) and Sergei Petrenko (41). Nobody knows the dark machinations of our security services but from what I can make out Wright and Brown claimed they were not drug-smugglers but secret-agents working against Russia on behalf of Pablo Miller at the British Embassy in Tallinn.

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It appears the two Estonians got 3 to 4 years in prison each and Estonia put in a request for extradition of the British citizens. I cannot find an English article on this drug-smuggling event – though there were some. Originally the BBC reported this story. And it was reported in Scotland. It has since gone dead. It looks like they were probably spooks.

https://www.prokuratuur.ee/en/node/1116

2003 Pablo Miller, at this time calling himself Paul, is credited with having arranged the passage of Vyacheslav Zharko, Boris Berezovsky and Alexander Litvinenko (FSB officer) to the UK, which added to the festering cesspool of oligarchs and Mafia-style businessmen already buying political favours and prime properties in London.

Skripal left his latest job in the Russian Department of Foreign Affairs.

2004 Sergei Skripal arrested and detained in custody on charges of espionage. He admitted the charges.

2006 Sergei Skripal convicted of spying and given a 13 year prison sentence. He allegedly confessed to everything. According to the Russian press It would appear that Skripal may have protected his minder because there was no mention of a Miller or Hidalgo by the FSB in 2006. (Source: Kommersant 16.08.2007, p. 4)

Alexander Valterovich Litvinenko died from polonium 210 poisoning.

Pablo Miller took up a post in Bogota, Columbia possibly for his own safety. According to his deleted LinkedIn page he “led the British Government’s flagship project in Bogota, supporting the Colombian state’s programme aimed at countering high-level, drugs-related corruption and impunity.”

2007 Vyacheslav Zharko, a former tax police inspector, spilled the beans in claiming that Pablo Miller recruited him in 2003. He was not caught. Most pertinently he confessed to the FSB when Andrei Lugovoi was accused by the UK of poisoning Alexander Litvinenko. He lost total faith in MI6. It dawned on him that his minders (he named 3 including Pablo Miller) would say anything to try to denigrate Russia and no longer wanted to be part of it.

2009 Pablo Miller’s duty came to an end in Bogota.

Christopher Steele retired as head of the Russian Department of MI6 and founded Orbis Business Intelligence (based in Grosvenor Gardens, London). https://orbisbi.com

2010 Roberto Flórez García convicted in Spain of working for the Russians at the start of the century. It is said he betrayed Skripal as a spy.

Sergei Skripal was exchanged in a deal with the US having served four years of a thirteen year sentence. He came with his wife and daughter to live in Salisbury, the home town of his former minder Pablo Miller.

Pablo Miller was posted to Poland as a counsellor at the British Embassy in Warsaw. On 5 May (shortly before the UK National Election) he wrote a witty tongue-in-cheek letter to the Spectator from Warsaw criticising the apathy of modern youth in being too lazy to vote. This no doubt made his daughters very proud of him!

2011 The Spectator received a letter from Pablo Miller in Poland in praise of Ross Clark and Martin Vander Weyer criticising public sector chief executive salaries compared to those of commanding officers in Helmand, on a mere £70,000 per annum.

2012 Sergei Skripal’s wife, Lyudmilla, died from cancer.

2014 Yulia Skripal returned to Russia.

2015 Pablo Miller received an OBE from Queen Elizabeth II. He retired from MI6 and joined his colleague and former boss Christopher Steele at Orbis Business Intelligence – the company responsible for the “dodgy dossier” on Donald Trump.

2016 Sergei Skripal’s son and older brother of Yulia, Alexander, died from liver failure on a high-speed train in Moscow. This prompted Yulia to remove all family photos from her Facebook account.

Orbis Business Intelligence releases its report on Donald Trump based to a large extent on information supplied by a former Russian intelligence officer.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-All egations.html

There are many speculations that this intelligence officer was Skripal, who perhaps should have got out of the game when Zharko did.

2018 On March 5 the Clinical Services Journal (CSJ) reported “a major incident after two patients were exposed to what was believed to be an opiate . . . an incident . . . in which a man and a woman were exposed to the drug Fentanyl in the city centre.” The drug Fentanyl was redacted later and replaced by “a substance” with the footnote that: “This story was updated on 26 April 2018 to remove suggestion (which was widely speculated and reported at the time of writing) that the substance found was fentanyl.” All credit to the medical journalists who were forced to change the story.

http://dilyana.bg/skripals-poisoned-with-fentanyl/

And all credit to the author, Dilyana Gaytandzhieva, of the blog which first exposed the Novichok lie. If I am not mistaken the photographer in the mirror on the first photo bears an uncanny resemblance to the artist’s impression of Pablo Miller in the featured image at the head of this timeline.

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Peals of laughter in Salisbury as Russian flag is unfurled on cathedral a year after the fake #Novichok attack https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/17/russian-flag-unfurled-scaf folding-salisbury-cathedral-locals/

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The Alternative Skripal Narrative
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by Michael Antony for The Saker Blog
https://thesaker.is/the-alternative-skripal-narrative/

The recent titbit fed to us by Bellingcat (reputedly close to MI6) that a third Russian agent was booked on the flight from Heathrow to Moscow on the night of 4th March 2018 — the flight taken by the two alleged GRU officers filmed in Salisbury — but didn’t show up for it, has pointed to a possible solution to the baffling Skripal puzzle. What if the third man, or perhaps the man who was supposed to take his place, was by then lying in Salisbury Hospital in a coma from opiate poisoning? What if Sergei Skripal was a triple agent trying to escape back to Russia to tell the world the truth about the Steele Dossier, which he had helped to concoct as a scurrilous, obscene joke and which had unexpectedly become the new bible of the insane war party in Washington?

This is the alternative narrative I will set out in detail here so that the reader can judge whether it forms a more plausible and coherent story than the mishmash of improbabilities, absurdities and contradictions served up by the British police and MI6. Of course in the absence of all the facts we must sometimes use imaginative reconstruction to fill in the gaps, but the point is to see how many thorny problems, raised by the facts we do have, can be solved by this narrative and cannot be solved by the official one.

It is not necessary to decide whether Skripal was a triple agent from the start (that is, a plant sent across in a spy swap, a classic Cold War way of infiltrating the enemy) or whether he became a triple agent when he realized how important this grotesque Steele Dossier had become and how much the Russians would pay him to come back and demolish it. What evidence there is (his phone call in 2012 to his old school friend, Vladimir Timoshkov, whose account of it three weeks after the poisoning gained widespread UK media coverage) suggests he started out as a purely mercenary traitor. Disillusioned by the collapse of the USSR into a gangster capitalist state run by Yeltsin’s mafia cronies, he decided he might as well profit from it by selling the corpse of what had once been his country to the highest bidder. The Russians didn’t seem to think of him as much more than a common criminal (only worth a moderate 13-year sentence, instead of the death penalty he would have got in the USA for betraying 300 agents) or they wouldn’t have let him survive six years in their prison. Perhaps when they exchanged him in the spy swap they gave him a wink and said: “Since you’re just a money-grubbing whore, any time you want to come back with some interesting stuff learned from working for MI6, let us know and we’ll discuss the price.”

He soon got to learn that interesting stuff when he was sent to Salisbury, the home town of his MI6 recruiter and handler, Pablo Miller. Miller had recruited him in Spain in 1995 and later handled him from Estonia, when he was posted there as a diplomat. It is a little too much to believe Skripal’s move to Salisbury was a coincidence. The two men became friends again, met regularly in the pub, and there is every reason to think Miller resumed his role as handler. Miller was now working for Christopher Steele, his old boss at MI6, in his private intelligence firm, Orbis Business Intelligence, based in Mayfair. This is one of the private intelligence-gathering outfits run by ex-spies of the kind Litvinenko used to work for. Just as Litvinenko got Lugovoy (his accused assassin) to help him out with due diligence reports on Russian businessmen because of his more up-to-date information, so Miller would have used Skripal in the same way. His help became vital when Steele got the commission from the Democratic Party to dig up Russian dirt on Donald Trump, and they had to invent some GRU set-up of the Donald with prostitutes in a Moscow hotel. Miller, the old Russia hand, would have done a good part of the work on this dossier and would have needed all the authentic detail his Russian agent could provide. Perhaps it was Skripal who came up with the scenario of Trump getting prostitutes to urinate on the bed the Obamas had slept in, which hidden cameras filmed. He must at least have given it his imprimatur as a typical GRU blackmail ploy to turn somebody into an asset. And that obscene fiction, the core of the Steele Dossier, became the basis of the neo-con legend that Trump was a Russian stooge — the insane underpinning of the whole mad Mueller probe into “Russian collusion”.

When Sergei the mercenary realized the vast importance this farcical, obscene Steele Dossier had taken on, that it was gospel truth for the whole anti-Trump, anti-Russia war party in Washington, he began to see how much it might be worth to the Russian state to blow it sky-high. If he were to describe on a prime-time Russian talk-show how he invented these obscene details over a beer with Miller and Steele in a pub, it would not only have all of Russia rolling on the floor with laughter. Heads would roll in Washington. The neo-con war party would become a laughing-stock. MI6 would be run out of town. Steele might face FBI perjury charges. The CIA might have its budget cut. Trump would be able to talk to Putin again. And the rewards for Sergei might be considerable. Not only seeing his 90-year old mother again, but perhaps even a * villa with a sea-view in Crimea or Sochi instead of that dank, shabby row-house in darkest Salisbury.

Was it Sergei who broached this subject to Yulia on one of her visits to Britain, or was she recruited by the GRU to put it to him? My bet is the latter, since after the poisoning her cousin Viktoria claimed Yulia’s new boyfriend and his mother both worked for the Russian secret services (before disappearing from view.) With all of Sergei’s communications monitored by MI6, the only way he had of talking to the GRU was through his daughter, living back in Russia again but able to visit Britain. Through her he must have managed to negotiate a deal for his return. Somehow MI6 got wind of their plans — perhaps Yulia, not a trained spy, was a bit naive or careless about listening devices. Steele became convinced they had made an escape plan for Sergei, to be carried out next time she visited Salisbury.

The thing that proves this was a British crime not a Russian one is the fact that Yulia was a prime target. The Russians had no motive to eliminate her, but if they had, they could have done it in Russia with a simple road accident with no questions asked. Only the British had to do it in Britain, since they didn’t have the resources in place to do it in Russia. And if she was not a prime target but collateral damage, why was Sergei not attacked when he was alone? Why wait for her to visit him? The fact they were both targeted the day after she arrived in Britain puts MI6’s signature all over it. She was a danger to MI6 because she knew of Sergei’s plan to return to Russia and trash the Steele Dossier, and she had to be stopped from revealing this to the world when he was killed. Silencing her at the same time was just as important to MI6 as silencing him.

To imagine that Putin would have ordered the assassination of an old double agent whom he had held for six years in prison (with ample opportunities to arrange his death) and then pardoned and swapped in a spy swap (part of the rules of the spying game on which his own life had been based), a week before the Russian elections and three months before the Football World Cup in Russia, which he hoped would lead to Russia’s re-acceptance into the community of nations, makes no sense. It carried only huge risks for a negligible benefit, and Putin does not take pointless risks, as his consistent prudence in Syria, even when his forces have been attacked, has shown. Compare the enormous gains this crime brought Britain. This assassination (as it was meant to be) gave MI6 a perfect opportunity to frame the Russians and incite a new anti-Russia frenzy to sabotage their celebratory Football World Cup (compared by the British Foreign Secretary to Hitler’s Olympics.) It would also show the EU Britain’s value as an anti-Putin cheerleader, bringing Europe and Britain together in an anti-Russia hate-week to distract from their Brexit quarrel, and uniting a fractious parliament behind a floundering leader. With any luck it would derail the Nordstream2 gas pipeline, a priority target for the US neo-con plan to ruin Russia’s economy, overthrow the regime and break up the country — goals MI6 fully shared, as their propaganda wing, the Integrity Initiative, has since made clear. In fact MI6’s plans to work for the total isolation and economic ruin of Russia, including sporting bans and ending cultural exchanges, date from 2015 and were leaked recently by Anonymous. The enormous preponderance of motivation on the British side, as well as the low risk in carrying out such a crime on their own turf with a grovelling press, a brainwashed public and tame police, point clearly to MI6 as the perpetrators.

Steele probably turned to his CIA friends for suggestions on how to frame Russia. They came up with novichok. This nerve agent invented by a Soviet chemist who later moved to the US and published the formula could be pinned on Russia as a uniquely Russian “chemical weapon.” Never mind that any decent laboratory could produce it, as a chemistry professor at Cornell has testified. Never mind that the British-invented nerve agent VX had been used to assassinate Kim Yong-Un’s half-brother in Kuala Lumpur Airport without Malaysia screaming that Britain must have done it. Russia is different. Hysterical hatred can be instantly incited against Russia by the MI6-controlled media and MI6-brainwashed politicians. Anyone who doubts Russia’s guilt can be vilified as a Putin stooge. Whether the novichok was sent over from the US by courier or produced at Porton Down is not important. What is important is that MI6’s attempt to kill the Skripals with novichok failed disastrously.

Let’s take the famous Nina Ricci perfume bottle, laced with novichok, which was found in a rubbish bin or charity bin by a homeless man and given weeks later to his woman friend, who tragically died after spraying it on her wrist. The police/MI6 narrative is that this perfume bottle was used to transport the novichok from Russia in the baggage of one of the alleged GRU men caught on CCTV in Salisbury. The novichok was then sprayed on the door handle of the Skripals’ house. The assassins then callously threw away the bottle (which they knew contained enough novichok to kill more people) in a dustbin or charity bin, demonstrating their indifference to loss of life as well as their indifference to leaving clues all over the place. There are problems with this narrative.

The homeless man claimed he had found the perfume bottle still in its box sealed in cellophane, proof it was not reopened after it had been laced with novichok and professionally repackaged. The bottle could not therefore have been used (as claimed) to spray the novichok on the doorknob, or the cellophane seal would have been broken. Assassins far from home don’t usually carry around cellophane-wrapping machines to repackage opened perfume bottles, especially when they are just going to chuck them in the bin. Nor would they take the risk, having fitted the separate spray nozzle onto the bottle and sprayed the doorknob, of disassembling it again to put it back in the box, knowing that a drop on their skin would kill them. And where would they perform this delicate operation? On the street? This poisoned perfume bottle was therefore never reopened, never used and it affected nobody until it ended up in the hands of the homeless man. So who or what was it intended for?

Ladies’ perfume bottles are normally intended for women. How many women are there in this story? Only one. The only possible explanation for the existence of this unopened, unused bottle of perfume laced with novichok is that it was a poisoned gift meant for Yulia Skripal. Why didn’t she open it? Because she had a spy father who took one look at it and said: “Don’t touch it!”

So here is the alternative narrative. MI6 had the bright idea of putting novichok in a Nina Ricci perfume bottle and sending it as a birthday present to Yulia Skripal at her father’s house. Her birthday was on 17th March, but the present was probably delivered on the 3rd, the day she arrived, so as to nip their escape plan in the bud. It was meant to seem like a present from her family or boyfriend. No doubt the parcel had Russian stamps on it, designed to frame the Russian state when the Skripals were found dead in their house with an open perfume bottle in Yulia’s hands. Unfortunately for MI6, Sergei took one look at this Nina Ricci perfume bottle and his spy instincts smelled danger. He refused to open it, but instead went for a long walk with it and put it in a rubbish bin or charity bin half-way across town. There it was found by the homeless man and given to his woman friend, a victim of MI6’s murderous callousness. Even after MI6 knew it had gone missing, they did not warn the public to beware of picking up a Nina Ricci perfume bottle because they didn’t want to give themselves away as the assassins.

The failure of the perfume bottle to kill the Skripals must have alarmed MI6. They followed the pair around Salisbury the next day. Where did they go? We can’t be sure since we have not been given all the CCTV footage. But let us engage in some more imaginative reconstruction to cover the gaps. The Skripals’ car made some unexplained journeys towards the outskirts of the town. The two alleged GRU men caught on Salisbury’s CCTV walked in some unexplained directions, with not a scrap of evidence they came within half a kilometre of the Skripals’ home. What if the two unexplained journeys intersected? Not necessarily in time but in place. What if they met at that hoary cliché of spy stories, the dead drop, the discreet delivery point for a package? The hole-in-a-garden-wall just big enough to hide something? A Mossad spy, commenting on the British police narrative, said that no GRU assassination team would ever have flown direct from Russia using Russian passports. But a support team delivering a package? Why not? What did they risk?

Now what would the GRU need to deliver to Sergei Skripal to help him escape from Britain back to Russia? Clearly, a passport. MI6, once they suspected his loyalty, would have put him on an airport watch list. He would need a passport in a false name to get out, and perhaps a flight ticket to Moscow in the same name so he wouldn’t need to make an internet booking, easily spied on. But the passport could not be blank. It needed a UK visa and entry stamp. So the third Russian agent who Bellingcat now tells us didn’t show up for the flight back to Moscow must have intended his seat to be taken by Sergei Skripal, who would use the passport and visa which he had flown in with a few days before (delivered to Sergei by his two colleagues at the dead drop that day.) Either Sergei and the third man bore a sufficient physical resemblance or passport photos were switched by an expert forger in London. Unfortunately, though Sergei now had a usable passport, he was hit before he made it to the flight.

MI6, after the failure of the perfume bottle attempt, knew they had to act fast to stop the Skripals driving to the airport. Once they observed the package delivery at the dead drop, they would have guessed it was a passport. There was now no chance of using novichok. The Skripals were unlikely to return home and pack a bag, so they had to be knocked out in a public place. Using novichok and risking the lives of dozens of other people was too much even for MI6. So they decided to spray them in the street with an opiate like Fentanyl, and later on to add novichok to the blood samples they sent to Porton Down for analysis (without of course any controlled chain of custody except their own.)

We know that the Skipals were knocked out with an opiate and not a nerve agent because of a simple incident — in fact, a slip-up. The first person on the scene when the Skripals collapsed on their bench was an army nurse, the Chief Nursing Officer of the British Army, Colonel Alison McCourt, accompanied by her teenage daughter, Abigail. Does anyone believe she was there by chance and was not part of the MI6 team following the Skripals about and looking for an opportunity to drug them discreetly? Now Colonel McCourt had long experience both with Ebola in Sierra Leone and with the danger of chemical weapons during her service in Iraq, where protection against nerve agents was a priority. She knew the enormous precautions required in approaching a victim of a nerve agent attack. Yet Colonel McCourt encouraged her daughter to rush over to the collapsed Skripals and begin administering first aid to them, something very dangerous if a nerve agent had been used. She later even recommended Abigail for a medal for heroism for her action, which is why it got into the papers. How did Colonel McCourt know that a nerve agent had not been used on the Skripals, unless she was part of the team that had sprayed them with an opiate? Would she have allowed her daughter to touch the Skipals unless she was sure there was no nerve agent present? This is what is known as a smoking gun.

There has been extraordinary silence in the mainstream media about the fact that none of the first responders or the Salisbury Hospital staff were in any way affected by the deadliest nerve agent known to man, even though no precautions were taken against it for at least two days. The nurses assumed they were dealing with an opiate overdose. When the blood test results came back from Porton Down showing novichok present in the blood samples, the hazmat suits were donned and the hospital allegedly went into panic mode. We can assume most of this was a charade. Sergeant Bailey, allegedly contaminated with novichok though the police can’t decide where, recounts in the Panorama BBC film shown in November that the nurses who cared for him wore full hazmat suits, but his wife and children wandered in to see him wearing no protection at all. Clearly the nurses were engaging in an MI6-mandated charade but couldn’t bear to impose it on his family because they knew there was no novichok present. Bailey, no doubt also drugged by an opiate, had been selected as a fake British victim to stir up more indignation against Russia, and to add further fake proof that novichok had been used, which the total absence of contamination of first responders might cast doubt on. As part of this charade, all the poor man’s furniture and belongings were destroyed by the heartless brutes of MI6, which he recounts in tears, in order to incite more irrational hatred of Russia — which the British public, the most brainwashed on earth, came up with on cue.

Of course the failure of the perfume bottle assassination attempt, and the need to switch drugs and use an opiate instead of novichok, left MI6 and the police with the task of explaining how the phantom novichok was administered. The farcical story they finally came up with, that it was sprayed on the Skripals’ front door handle with the perfume bottle, has convinced nobody except the brainwashed masses. Even the clownish Foreign Secretary’s story that MI6 had shown him a Russian spy handbook which described how their spies had recently been practising putting novichok on door handles (a technical skill obviously requiring weeks of training and about to be unleashed en masse against Britain’s unsuspecting doorknobs) but unfortunately he couldn’t produce this handbook as it was classified, left people howling with laughter. It was worthy of a Monty Python sketch, something the Russians, who are great fans of British comedy, must have appreciated.

The idea that assassins could walk up to the front door of a terraced house in broad daylight, a door with clear glass panels in the middle and on both sides of it, so that anyone outside is visible from the hallway, and spray the doorknob with novichok while the Skripals were inside and their car was in the driveway, is simply not believable. These professional assassins did not even have a car or even bicycles to make a getaway if seen. And the two police versions of what time the attackers did this, first of all at 9.15 before the Skripals left home and then at 1.30 (after the police revised their timeline to fit the train schedule of the two Russians caught on CCTV) would both have left many hours’ delay before this deadly nerve agent took effect at 4.15 that afternoon.

We are asked to believe that two people of very different size, a man of 66 and a girl half that age, fell unconscious at the exact same moment either seven hours or three hours after being poisoned with a deadly “military grade” nerve agent. Why this delayed effect? Would this be useful in a battlefield chemical weapon — let’s leave the enemy active for several hours? And how to get a simultaneous collapse many hours later? No explanation. And if novichok was used to attack the Skripals, why was Abigail McCourt not affected when she gave them first aid and why did her highly trained army nurse mother allow her to touch victims of a deadly nerve agent?

The intelligent people who work in Salisbury Hospital cannot possibly be dupes to this grotesque deception, riddled with impossibilities. They are therefore accomplices and criminally responsible. I believe many of the hospital staff suspected MI6 was staging this whole thing but went along with it because of the high level of Cold War, anti-Russian brainwashing of the British population. They saw it as an exciting spy game they were taking part in with their wonderful secret services who had Won the War and Saved the World. It was a question of loyalty to Britain to defend this criminal lie. They must have suspected the Skripals’ blood samples had been laced afterwards with novichok. Perhaps the OPCW did too, since they claimed the traces of novichok were “very pure”. Was that a hint it had never been through any human body? One can sympathize with the Russians for trying to hack the laboratory computers to find out if any of the experts had expressed doubts to each other or suspicions the OPCW had set this up. Since they knew they were victims of a shameless NATO conspiracy to frame them, all they could do was try to expose it by any means they had.

The Russians’ patience and calm in the face of this campaign of lies and hate have been almost saint-like. If the West is not wiped out by the nuclear war they are constantly pushing for with Russia, then one day Britain and all the other NATO vassal states which wrongfully expelled droves of Russian diplomats will have to make Russia an abject apology and pay compensation for the misery caused the Russian people by their illegal sanctions. Is it too much to hope that some people at Salisbury Hospital or in the local police who know the truth will have the courage sooner or later to come forward and expose this vile warmongering deception, and the totalitarian media manipulation by the sinister forces that secretly govern Britain? Do they spare a thought for the Skripals and the state they are in right now — held incommunicado without any charge against them, not represented by any lawyer, and unable to communicate with their family or the public? Surely they are not fooled by that scripted video? Where are the human rights campaigners protesting against this totalitarian sequestration? What world are they living in? Has it not occurred to them that in the era of MI6’s proven involvement in torture, whether in Guantanamo, Abu Graib, black sites or extraordinary rendition to places where people can be tortured to death, Yulia Skripal might be listening every night to her father whimpering in the next cell as the voice goes on repeating: “You Ruskie b******, tell us when you started lying to us.”

The official narrative about the Skripals has been shot full of holes by various dissident commentators in the alternative media. That always begs the question: well, so what really happened? The above alternative narrative, combining both the known facts and speculations to cover the gaps where the facts are still missing, should allow the reader to judge its overall plausibility, compared to the official one. To prove an alternative narrative to the criminal’s story, a prosecutor does not need to establish every single event in the chain, many of which will remain unknown. He only needs to prove that certain key events in the criminal’s narrative are contrary to the known facts, and that these facts are compatible with the alternative narrative. The key facts in this case are the state of the Nina Ricci perfume bottle, clearly never opened after it was laced with novichok and repackaged, and therefore never used to spray novichok anywhere; the impossibility of a deadly nerve agent having a three hour delay in its effects and then affecting two very different people at the same moment; the unlikelihood of a senior army nurse allowing her daughter to touch victims of a nerve agent; the unlikelihood novichok was used (rather than an opiate), given the lack of any effect on the first responders, and the fact Sergeant Bailey’s children were allowed to approach him without wearing hazmat suits, which the nurses, however, wore.

Put those basic problems in the official narrative together with the speed with which the UK government blamed Russia for this event, when there was no more link between Russia and novichok than between Britain and the use of British-invented VX nerve agent to assassinate Kim Yong Un’s half-brother in Kuala Lumpur airport. No nerve agent whose formula has been published is the monopoly of any nation, nor does its use incriminate any nation. This rush to judgment reveals a premeditated plan by Britain to use this event to sabotage Russia’s Football World Cup (which they compared to Hitler’s Olympics) as part of a long-term British goal to isolate, discredit and economically ruin Russia. The need for MI6 to prevent Skripal exposing the Steele Dossier, produced by Skripal’s MI6 handlers, since it would show the degree of Britain’s cynical interference in the American election to discredit Trump and destroy any rapprochement with Russia, formed the motive for MI6 to commit murder, for which it has a considerable reputation. Combining the two things, killing the Skripals and crucifying Russia for it, was no doubt seen as a great coup by MI6. It was seen as even more ingenious to follow up this alleged “chemical weapons” attack on British soil with the fake chemical attack at Douma staged by the White Helmets, founded and financed by MI6. This was aimed at relaunching the war to overthrow Assad and dismantle Syria, giving the Americans and the Israelis its oil fields, and allowing Qatari gas to be piped to Europe to replace Russian gas. All of these fit Britain’s and NATO’s known strategic goals. The speed of the knee-jerk response of NATO countries in expelling Russian diplomats, without any debate or demand for evidence in any parliament, raises the suspicion that this was planned not by MI6 alone but jointly with the CIA and other NATO secret services, which largely control supposedly democratic governments.

The continued NATO harassment, sanctions and campaigns of lies and false accusations against Russia, including the blatant war rhetoric of the British Defence Secretary, do not bode well for the future. For the US to tear up nuclear arms treaties and then blame Russia is beyond shameful: it is destroying all possibility of negotiations to avert war. The Kerch Strait incident staged by the puppet regime in Kiev, sending gunboats into the Kerch Strait without observing the 2003 Protocol requiring them to notify in advance the Port of Kerch (a protocol observed by the dozens of ships that go through the Strait peacefully every day) was clearly part of a NATO plan to set up a major naval clash in the Black Sea. That clash (followed by an attempt to recapture Crimea or at least blow up its magnificent bridge, a reproach to a man who cannot even build a wall) may be expected in coming months, perhaps as a distraction from Brexit or a way of derailing it. NATO, in short, is on a clear trajectory towards war with Russia, which their deluded worldview convinces them they can win. Their initial use of Russia as a scapegoat and bogeyman to unite the NATO vassals against a common threat, keeping Europe in subjection to America, has got out of hand, and is heading, under the impetus of hysterical rhetoric, towards actual war. Unless decent people unite to stop this escalation then the nuclear catastrophe will occur. Exposing the barefaced lie of the Skripal false flag attack may be a step towards averting that global cataclysm.

Michael Antony is a writer based in Switzerland, and his next book, about the coming nuclear war, is called Requiem for America. He has a blog, michaelantonyblog@wordpress.com

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The timeline of the perfume bottle interests me. Given when it was dumped in bin and how often the bins are emptied. That gap seems to big > Most bin collections are either weekly or fortnightly not 3 months. Also i doubt Charlie Rowley would have been able to rummage in the bottom of the bin so the bottle must have been somewhere close to the top..meaning it had lain close to top of the bin for months with no other rubbish being placed upon it.
This would suggest the placing of the bottle was much later in the timeline

The Independant said the bottle fell apart in Charlies hand...If he had picked it up for a birthday present for Dawn he would not have unwrapped it if it was sealed. Likely that if it was in an unsealed box then Charlie would have previously inspected it to make sure it wasnt just an empty or damaged bottle if he was giving it as a present

Just read an old BBC article that a friend of Mr Skripal used Sergeis car to go and pick his daughter Julia up at airport. Do we know who this "friend " was and why Sergei didnt go himself. Also Julia may have known this friend to recognise him at the airport or at least been told by Sergei.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poisoned spy Sergei Skripal asked Putin for pardon so he could return to Russia, friend claims

‘Many people shunned him. His classmates felt he had betrayed the Motherland,’ says Vladimir Timoshkov

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Saturday 24 March 2018 09:30
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sergei-skripal-vladimi r-putin-nerve-agent-return-russia-pardon-a8271751.html

Former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal had written to Vladimir Putin asking if he could return to his home country before he was poisoned in Salisbury, a friend has said.

The former Russian intelligence officer, who came to Britain in 2010 as part of a spy swap, regretted being a double agent and wanted to be pardoned so he could visit his family in Russia, Vladimir Timoshkov told the BBC.


Mr Skripal and his daughter Yulia remain in a critical condition after they were poisoned with the nerve agent Novichok on 4 March.

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The 66-year-old had been accused of working for MI6 over several years, in particular disclosing the names of several dozen Russian agents working in Europe.

He was sentenced to 13 years in a high-security prison in August 2006, before being freed in the 2010 deal which saw 10 Russian sleeper agents expelled from the United States.

According to Mr Timoshkov, his friend, who he had known since school, Mr Skripal did not see himself as a traitor as he had sworn an oath to the Soviet Union.

“Many people shunned him. His classmates felt he had betrayed the Motherland,” he said.

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“In 2012 he called me. We spoke for about half an hour. He called me from London. He denied he was a traitor... [he told me] he wrote to Vladimir Putin asking to be fully pardoned and to be allowed to visit Russia. His mother, brother and other relatives were [in Russia].”

The Kremlin later issued a denial that any such letter was sent to the Russian President.

The attempted assassination sparked a diplomatic crisis between Russia and Britain, which has been supported by its allies in apportioning blame to the Kremlin.

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Russia has vehemently denied any responsibility for the incident, while last Sunday the country’s EU ambassador Vladimir Chizhov said that “from the legal point of view the Russian state had nothing against him [Mr Skripal]”.

Russia’s ambassador to the UK Alexander Yakovenko sent his well wishes to Mr Skripal and his daughter on Friday and wrote to Wiltshire Police detective sergeant Nick Bailey, who was left seriously ill after he was exposed to the poison as he went to the Skripals’ aid.

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Sergei Skripal was freed in a 2010 deal which saw 10 Russian sleeper agents expelled from the United States (AP)
Mr Bailey said his experience had been “completely surreal” after he was discharged from hospital.


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Life wrote:
Skripal told one of his school mates in 2012 that he had made a serious mistake and wanted to go back to Russia. This would be more than enough for MI6 to revoke this idea and act. It looks like Theresa May gained European backing in her blaming Russia by handing over open borders two years after Brexit.

This means a bankrupt corporation has done a deal that will act against the nations peace and security to support a lie, aimed at the British public to form energy against Russia, and, to expand funding for chemical weaponry and a step closer to that coveted big red button called the corporate Contingency Act platform activation..


Yes, indeed: 'Former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal had written to Vladimir Putin asking if he could return to his home country before he was poisoned in Salisbury, a friend has said.':
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sergei-skripal-vladimi r-putin-nerve-agent-return-russia-pardon-a8271751.html#comments

The Kremlin denies receiving such a lettr, which would make sense as the Post Office here would have likely intercepted his letter, which would have immediately put Skripal into the 'highly expendable' class, kept in mind till HMG wished to open up a big 'False Flag' demonisation on Putin.

Here's Pilger on Skripal:
'Skripal case is a carefully-constructed drama' - John Pilger ': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxRiG8vRRBk

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FSB Levels Spy Charge at Briton
By Tatyana Gershkovich Aug. 16 2007 00:00
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The Federal Security Service accused one-time British diplomat Pablo Miller on Wednesday of recruiting former tax inspector Vyacheslav Zharko on behalf of British intelligence.

Zharko, who turned himself over to the FSB in June, has said he was introduced to British intelligence officers by former FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko and later handed over information about the Russian economy.

The FSB said Miller also had been implicated in the espionage cases of retired intelligence agency Colonel Sergei Skripal and former FSB officer Valery Oyamyae. Skripal was convicted of spying for Britain last year and sentenced to 13 years in prison. Oyamyae was convicted of spying for British and Estonian special services in 2001.

At the time of Oyamyae's conviction, the FSB said Miller was an agent working as the first secretary of the British Embassy and accused him of working alongside the Estonian Interior Ministry's security police department.

The FSB said Miller also went by the name Antonio Alvares de Hidalgo.

The FSB allegations were made in a report carried by Interfax. An FSB spokesman confirmed the report but declined further comment.

The British Foreign Office refused to comment on Miller's association with Zharko or his current status within the British diplomatic corp.

The first public mention of a connection between Zharko and Miller appears to be an Aug. 9 posting on web forum Able2Know.com. The author of the post says he learned that Zharko had identified Antonio Alvares de Hidalgo as his "tutor" from MI6 some time ago, and questions whether the re-employment of an exposed MI6 agent stemmed from the agency's need to "retrench" or whether "the department officers of MI6 are so goofy they make such blunders."

The FSB spokesman refused to comment on when Zharko first identified Miller as his recruiter. He expressed surprise when told of the Internet posting and asked for the web site's address.


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1982 According to his LinkedIn account (no longer available) Pablo Miller graduated from Oxford University in 1982 with a degree in Modern Languages and History. Following graduation he attended the British Army officer training academy at Sandhurst.

His commission in the Royal Tank Regiment took him to Germany, Cyprus, Northern Ireland and Brunei.

1984 Lt. Pablo Miller was given some assistance by General Sir Desmond Langley in Cyprus.

1985 Captain Pablo Miller represented his division skiing in a race at which the starter was Princess Anne. Photos here: http://www.4and7royaltankregiment.com/1982-1985/

Yulia Skripal was born in Malta.

1995 Sergei Skripal, a colonel in the GRU, and a number of other Russians were recruited by Milller about this time. Russian author, Nikolai Luzan, in his espionage exposure “The Devil’s Counter-intelligence Dozen”, explains how Skripal was brought on board by the MI6 officer, Pablo Miller.

1997 Pablo Miller became First Secretary of the British embassy in Tallinn recruiting under the name of Antonio Alvarez de Hidalgo. As things stood Skripal was already on a nice little earner secretly importing wine from the GRU authorities enabling him to make extended business trips to Malta and Spain. On one of these the GRU colonel was introduced to a Spaniard named Luis. According to Luzan it was Luis who introduced Skripal to Miller (then posing as Antonio Alvarez de Hidalgo) and they went into business together.

Skripal was described as having a “thirst for profit”. He would sometimes take his wife, Lyudmilla, with him on his business trips. It seems however she knew nothing of his extra-business activities. Before entering into their partnership Miller took Skripal to a strip-club but it was not the Russian’s kind of thing and he went back home to his wife. Miller bought Skripal’s loyalty with a cheque-book and before long, using colleagues within the GRU, files had been collated on some 300 GRU employees.

1999 Skripal resigned from the GRU on health grounds. Soon after his resignation he was issued with a passport and went abroad. Again he made contact with Pablo Miller and resumed espionage activities, this time providing details on the structure of the GRU. Skripal was a greedy man. Greedy men are rarely if ever driven by morals in their decision-making. British Intelligence personnel would have known this and Skripal met with MI6 personnel frequently. He met them in the seaside resort of Izmir in Turkey under the pretence of being a tourist.

This year the Tomlinson list of 116 British Intelligence Officers was released. Apparently Pablo Miller’s name is not on the list and the controllers of the World Wide Web have done a creditable job in wiping clean this list from the internet. There are still a few hard copies available.

2000 Valery Oyamae was another recruit of Pablo Miller’s. Oyamae lived in Moscow and made frequent trips to Estonia. At the time Pablo Miller was operating from the British Embassy in Tallinn as its First Secretary – a cover for his intelligence work. On 15 March 2000 at 7 p.m. Oyamae was arrested at the Leningradsky railway station, Moscow, on espionage charges. He had risen through the ranks of the KGB becoming a senior officer. Though Oyamae was not mentioned by name at the time of his arrest, Pablo Miller, his minder, was named in both Russian and English-reading press.

While Skripal’s handler was Pablo Miller, Miller was answering to Christopher Steele in MI6.

Scot William Hine (or Hein) and Estonian Sergei Petrenko (see 2001) were arrested in Tallin on drug-smuggling charges. They were caught in possession of £2.4 million worth of heroin concealed in the fuel tank of the car they were driving. It is not clear if Robert Bruce Wright and Leslie Brown were with them at the time but they never stood trial.

spy hidalgo courtesy vesti

Pablo Miller in his younger de Hidalgo days (Courtesy ВЕСТИ)

2001 On 23 April 2001 Valery Oyamae was sentenced to seven years in prison in a Moscow court under article 275. His property was confiscated. Until sentence was pronounced his name had been kept out of the Russian and western media.

This year there was an extradition request from Estonia to the UK for Robert Bruce Wright (35) and Leslie Brown (44) wanted under suspicion of drug-smuggling in conjunction with William Hein (42) and Sergei Petrenko (41). Nobody knows the dark machinations of our security services but from what I can make out Wright and Brown claimed they were not drug-smugglers but secret-agents working against Russia on behalf of Pablo Miller at the British Embassy in Tallinn.

lenta.ru›articles/2007/08/15/spy/

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It appears the two Estonians got 3 to 4 years in prison each and Estonia put in a request for extradition of the British citizens. I cannot find an English article on this drug-smuggling event – though there were some. Originally the BBC reported this story. And it was reported in Scotland. It has since gone dead. It looks like they were probably spooks.

https://www.prokuratuur.ee/en/node/1116

2003 Pablo Miller, at this time calling himself Paul, is credited with having arranged the passage of Vyacheslav Zharko, Boris Berezovsky and Alexander Litvinenko (FSB officer) to the UK, which added to the festering cesspool of oligarchs and Mafia-style businessmen already buying political favours and prime properties in London.

Skripal left his latest job in the Russian Department of Foreign Affairs.

2004 Sergei Skripal arrested and detained in custody on charges of espionage. He admitted the charges.

2006 Sergei Skripal convicted of spying and given a 13 year prison sentence. He allegedly confessed to everything. According to the Russian press It would appear that Skripal may have protected his minder because there was no mention of a Miller or Hidalgo by the FSB in 2006. (Source: Kommersant 16.08.2007, p. 4)

Alexander Valterovich Litvinenko died from polonium 210 poisoning.

Pablo Miller took up a post in Bogota, Columbia possibly for his own safety. According to his deleted LinkedIn page he “led the British Government’s flagship project in Bogota, supporting the Colombian state’s programme aimed at countering high-level, drugs-related corruption and impunity.”

2007 Vyacheslav Zharko, a former tax police inspector, spilled the beans in claiming that Pablo Miller recruited him in 2003. He was not caught. Most pertinently he confessed to the FSB when Andrei Lugovoi was accused by the UK of poisoning Alexander Litvinenko. He lost total faith in MI6. It dawned on him that his minders (he named 3 including Pablo Miller) would say anything to try to denigrate Russia and no longer wanted to be part of it.

2009 Pablo Miller’s duty came to an end in Bogota.

Christopher Steele retired as head of the Russian Department of MI6 and founded Orbis Business Intelligence (based in Grosvenor Gardens, London). https://orbisbi.com

2010 Roberto Flórez García convicted in Spain of working for the Russians at the start of the century. It is said he betrayed Skripal as a spy.

Sergei Skripal was exchanged in a deal with the US having served four years of a thirteen year sentence. He came with his wife and daughter to live in Salisbury, the home town of his former minder Pablo Miller.

Pablo Miller was posted to Poland as a counsellor at the British Embassy in Warsaw. On 5 May (shortly before the UK National Election) he wrote a witty tongue-in-cheek letter to the Spectator from Warsaw criticising the apathy of modern youth in being too lazy to vote. This no doubt made his daughters very proud of him!

2011 The Spectator received a letter from Pablo Miller in Poland in praise of Ross Clark and Martin Vander Weyer criticising public sector chief executive salaries compared to those of commanding officers in Helmand, on a mere £70,000 per annum.

2012 Sergei Skripal’s wife, Lyudmilla, died from cancer.

2014 Yulia Skripal returned to Russia.

2015 Pablo Miller received an OBE from Queen Elizabeth II. He retired from MI6 and joined his colleague and former boss Christopher Steele at Orbis Business Intelligence – the company responsible for the “dodgy dossier” on Donald Trump.

2016 Sergei Skripal’s son and older brother of Yulia, Alexander, died from liver failure on a high-speed train in Moscow. This prompted Yulia to remove all family photos from her Facebook account.

Orbis Business Intelligence releases its report on Donald Trump based to a large extent on information supplied by a former Russian intelligence officer.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-All egations.html

There are many speculations that this intelligence officer was Skripal, who perhaps should have got out of the game when Zharko did.

2018 On March 5 the Clinical Services Journal (CSJ) reported “a major incident after two patients were exposed to what was believed to be an opiate . . . an incident . . . in which a man and a woman were exposed to the drug Fentanyl in the city centre.” The drug Fentanyl was redacted later and replaced by “a substance” with the footnote that: “This story was updated on 26 April 2018 to remove suggestion (which was widely speculated and reported at the time of writing) that the substance found was fentanyl.” All credit to the medical journalists who were forced to change the story.

http://dilyana.bg/skripals-poisoned-with-fentanyl/

And all credit to the author, Dilyana Gaytandzhieva, of the blog which first exposed the Novichok lie. If I am not mistaken the photographer in the mirror on the first photo bears an uncanny resemblance to the artist’s impression of Pablo Miller in the featured image at the head of this timeline.

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First chilling CCTV of the two Russian novichok assassins in Salisbury

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why has no one picked up on the cctv footage from inside the collectors shop that they stopped to look at the coin display,
The CCTV video is in the on line Daily Mail not even they have mentioned that the direction they are walking is from the Cathedral toward the train station
which contradicts the narrative from Theresa May
every map produced of their movements
and CCTV locations that recorded them have neglected to include the location of the shop that is the opposite side of town
would the location and recorded time contradict the official story that they never visited the cathedral that is approximately 200 meters in the direction they walked from
and at what time was the footage taken as there is no time date stamp on the footage
none of the official maps drawn up showing where they were and time neglect to show the shop they were filmed outside of WHY.
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SKRIPAL CASE: ISRAELI EXPERT ON THE WORK OF THE SPECIAL AGENTS
Date of publication: 28 09 2018, 12:05
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An Israeli expert on international terrorism, writer Alexander Brass, shared his view on the case of the Skripals poisoning in Salisbury. Brass draws parallels between the work of the special services of Israel and Russia – he believes that if to compare the British version with the practice of the special agents, then the absurdity becomes obvious.

“Alexander, so what, in your opinion, happened in Salisbury?”

-There was a rough provocation by the British special services. In my opinion, this is obvious.

– Why do you think so?

“There’s a lot of stupidity on stupidity.” The story with Petrov and Boshirov does not hold up any professional peer review. According to the Brits, the Skripals were poisoned by GRU agents (this is what the department is called, although this is now the Main Directorate of the RF General Staff).

I want to explain how the special services work. If you need someone to eliminate, then this is a very serious operation, which is being prepared for a long time. A very significant material and human resource is allocated. We are talking about dozens of employees. On the territory of this state, an “advanced command post” is being created.

In the operation, a technical support group, a logistic group, a cover group, an external surveillance group and a group of performers are involved.

The performers themselves appear at the very last moment. They do not go anywhere, lighting up on cameras, do not use public transport, but move on rented cars, which they do not rent themselves. And the more they will not stop in hotels, but will live on safe houses provided by the logistics group.

Such groups do not come under the passport of their country, do not go to the embassy for obtaining a visa, leaving fingerprints. This is complete nonsense. Professionals do not work that way.

If the GRU acted, both the killers and the other participants in the operation would come to the UK on the passports of other countries that have visa-free relations with it. Here, two alleged GRU officers go to the embassy, ​​leave their fingerprints there, get a visa, stop at the hotel, pass under all the cells. This you will not find even in ladies’ detective novels.

– Maybe it is unprofessionalism associated with the degradation and decay, which after the collapse of the Soviet Union took place in all structures and institutions of society, including in the special services? Lost skills, methods, no one to teach young people. There is such an opinion.

– This is an opinion at the level of kitchen conversations. Where did the armed forces and the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation manage to raise such a “bardak” to such a level as they could organize the World Cup and the Olympics at such a high level? The GRU has always been and remains one of the most professional and most intelligent intelligence agencies in the world.

If the GRU decided to eliminate Skripal, then I have a question: why was the “Novichok” used? This is not a remedy, it’s a chemical weapon of mass destruction. It’s like dropping an atomic bomb on a city to kill one criminal. When special services eliminate an object, they always try to do it so that no autopsy shows that he was poisoned.

– Can you give examples?

– I can give many examples. In 1978, the well-known international terrorist Vadia Haddad, one of the founders of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), was killed. “Mossad” did not take responsibility for this, but sewed in a bag you can not hide. A potent biological poison was mixed with chocolate. Within three months he died of a painful and incomprehensible illness in the GDR clinic. His autopsy was conducted at the University of East Berlin. No trace of poison was found. The doctors assumed that he died of leukemia.

– How did you know that he was killed by Mossad?

– Information about this began to leak a few years ago. It came from Algeria. One of the former Mossad agents during another trial gave evidence that he witnessed how this happened, calling the specific names of the performers. This man also confirmed that he was a participant in this operation. This information was also confirmed by other, non-overlapping sources.

– Were there any cases when the Mossad operation ended unsuccessfully and the enemies of Israel were still alive?

– Take the last unsuccessful attempt of the Israelis to kill Khaled Mashaal, one of the leaders of the terrorist organization Hamas. He would have been killd if he had not been given an antidote at the last minute.

Everything happened on September 25, 1997 on one of the streets of Amman – the capital of Jordan. Just some passer-by, who was next to Mashaal, “accidentally” stumbled and splashed the liquid from the can of Coke to his neck. The next day Mashal would have died of a heart attack, and no traces. But the performers were seized on the spot. After that, the King of Jordan Hussein demanded that Israel provide an antidote, and in return promised to release Israeli agents.

– That is, substances that leave no traces are not detected by expertise and imitate death from the disease, the secret services have long been known?

– That’s it. Could the GRU not have been able to use some other poison, and not the “Novichok”, which leaves traces everywhere? If such technologies were in the special services already in the 1950s, do not the GRU have them today?

Let’s talk about the cameras. The UK on this some kind of fad. In no country in the world there is such a number of surveillance cameras per capita.

If I’m not mistaken, about one camera for 15 people. Literally every meter is looked through. MI5, the British counterintelligence service, is considered one of the best in the world. And if Britain took care of Skripal, he was very well guarded. At least his house was hung with all the cameras, which are only possible.

If, according to MI5, these agents visited Salisbury, they came to the house of Skripal and coated the door handle with this substance – so show the records from the cameras! How can it be that it was at this point that the cameras suddenly turned off?

“But maybe these agents found the cameras and turned them off?”

“If you say that the GRU has deteriorated so badly that it has lit up everywhere and left its mark, why did this degraded intelligence agency manage to turn off the surveillance cameras near the Skripal house at the right time?” Where is the logic?

– When our agents killed the Chechen terrorist Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev in Qatar, they got caught and were captured by the local police. True, they carried out the task …

“And how many Israeli agents were arrested?” This does not mean degradation. I do not know what happened after the collapse of the USSR in the GRU, but I know what happened in the Foreign Intelligence Service, since I had been friends with one of the very high-ranking officers of this service for many years in retirement. We had very close, friendly relations with him for many years. Unfortunately, he died a few years ago.

He told me that the degradation of the special services is only an appearance. He retired, because he already had years of service and he did not agree with the mess that was going on in the country. But there was no mess in the secret services! Who wanted to – left. But was there a leak of information? Have they discovered an agent network? Agents of Soviet special services worked all over the world. Have any of them suffered? No one. The mess can be anywhere, but not in the special services.

– Let’s admit. All this really looks strange – first let out Skripal, then kill him. Would not it be easier to just leave him in jail?

– Now about the personality of Sergei Skripal himself. The main version, which is voiced by the British side, is revenge. But in special services there is no such thing as revenge. Neither the Israelis, nor the Russians. Only the Cubans had it. We must understand that the special services are a very practical organization. Why revenge? A person is eliminated only when he can cause real harm. The Skripal has already done harm. He could not do more harm.

– For example, as a lesson to other potential traitors, no?

– No. I once asked my acquaintances who worked in your special services (I have never had any contact with active staff, only with retirees): “Why did not Kalugin be killed?” And they answered me with a counter question: “Why haven’t you eliminated the defector? “I said: he has already done harm. To eliminate him, it is necessary to develop a very serious operation, to send people, people should risk their lives. For the sake of what – for the sake of revenge? They say: “For the same reason, we do not touch Kalugin and do not touch anyone.” Israelis are not even exterminated by former terrorists. At the moment when the terrorist stops terrorist activities, regardless of what he did before, he is left alone. The only ones who were persecuted to the end were Nazi criminals.

– There is an opinion that he was eliminated because he taught at the counterintelligence school and taught young employees how to deal with the GRU.

– And what, in MI5, except for Skripal, no one knows how to do it? I think they know it better than him.

– In such cases, there is a very simple practice. When Skripal was taken on treason, he probably was intelligibly explained: either you go to life imprisonment and you will be in solitary confinement somewhere beyond the Arctic Circle, or you will receive 12 years of strict regime in the European part of Russia. But for this, you must fully tell what you have handed over, and give evidence. To cooperate with the investigation.

Similarly, when the former colonel of the Defense Intelligence of Israel’s Defense Intelligence Department, I did not name him, went into business and got into debt.

He went to Lebanon to buy heroin and conduct a drug deal, and was captured by Hezbollah. He told everything he knew, inflicting enormous damage to Israel’s defense capability. Because he was an officer on this site, he worked for Lebanon.

The Israelis exchanged him, they pulled him out. He was told: let’s make a deal. You will not be prosecuted. But you must thoroughly, in every detail, tell what you told them. We need to know what they know. The same was with Skripal. And there was simply no need to eliminate him.

– So there was no motive for Russian special services?

– There was no motive. Then, imagine: they used “Novichok”, they carried it with them in a bottle from under the perfume. In the practice of special services this does not exist. Performers go light, with other people’s passports. They receive weapons on the spot. And when such a group of liquidators works, it works autonomously, without affecting the local residency. In case of failure, do not harm the residence. When the surveillance is working and the capture team is working, they do not know each other in person, they communicate only through certain communication channels.

– The question is also why the poison did not act instantly, and Skripal was still wandering about for a few hours.

– It’s a different matter. The British are so disrespectful to Russia that even provocation can not be done at a decent level. It’s even humiliating. Therefore, Russia does not comment on this in any way. And why is it necessary to comment on some kind of nonsense?

It took half a year to Brits to find the “suspects.” Although they left their full personal data and fingerprints in the embassy when they received visas. This is a separate nonsense. Then Russia said: please! Here they are, here’s their interview. If they were active GRU officers, they would not have left their fingerprints in the embassy for anything.

“Who are they?”

– I do not know who they are, but certainly not employees of special services. If the GRU needed to kill Skripal, he would now be dead. This would have been done quietly and without scandal.

“Why Britain needs this?”

– This is a well-thought-out strategy of demonization and international isolation of Russia. In the UK, as in the rest of the Western world, everything works very simply. Most people do not read newspapers at all. And those who read, do not understand half. But everyone sees the headlines. Provocation with the Skripals is needed to exclude the Russian Federation from the Commission for Investigating the Use of Chemical Weapons in Syria. This is a minimum program.

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THE SKRIPALS UNDER US CONTROL, AT A USAF NUCLEAR BOMBER BASE IN FAIRFORD, GLOUCESTERSHIRE
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English plane spotters and bird watchers have discovered the location of the Skripals in Gloucestershire. An hour and a half’s drive north of their well-known home in Salisbury, Sergei and Yulia Skripal have been hidden inside an airbase operated by the United States Air Force (USAF) for long-range B-52 and B-2 bombers armed with nuclear weapons targeted on Russia.

Sergei and Yulia Skripal were poisoned in the Salisbury city centre at about 4:15 on Sunday afternoon, March 4, 2018. They were then taken by separate ambulances to the Salisbury District Hospital. What happened to them next remains a state secret. Follow the latest report here.

The British Government has refused to allow consular access to the Skripals, although they are Russian citizens; the Russian Embassy in London has requested the access; British law and international treaties require it. Lawyers in London reveal there has been an informal atmosphere at the Bar deterring an application to the courts for a writ of habeas corpus on the Skripals’ behalf to compel physical access.

A London High Court judge reported publicly on March 22, 2018, that both Skripals were ““unconscious…heavily sedated…unable to communicate in any way”.

As they recovered consciousness, their contact with family members in Moscow was restricted. On March 29, a bulletin was issued by the hospital reporting that “Yulia Skripal is improving rapidly and is no longer in a critical condition. Her condition is now stable. Her father remains in a critical but stable condition.” This was the first of four Skripal bulletins from Salisbury Hospital officials; they can be followed here. The state news outlet BBC reported the same day that Yulia was “conscious and talking”.

On April 5, she made a furtive mobile telephone call to her cousin in Moscow, Viktoria Skripal; the details were reported here. A tape of the call was broadcast on Russian state television. The BBC then replayed excerpts, with English translation and an anonymously sourced claim disputing that the telephone conversation was genuine.


Left: Russian state television Rossiya Channel 1 broadcasting the telephone-call. Right: British state television BBC broadcasting that the call had been faked. Source: https://www.bbc.com/

That the telephone call was unauthorized by hospital officials and required Skripal to hide from her guards was also indicated by the consequences a day later. The hospital issued a statement on April 6 that “as Yulia herself says [in the telephone recording in Russian], her strength is growing daily and she can look forward to the day when she is well enough to leave the hospital. Any speculation on when that date will be is just that – speculation. In the meantime, Yulia has asked for privacy while she continues to get better – something I’d like to urge the media to respect. I also want to update you on the condition of her father, Sergei Skripal. He is responding well to treatment, improving rapidly and is no longer in a critical condition.”

In London later the same day, the Metropolitan Police issued a statement “on behalf of Yulia Skripal”. The police website link to that document has disappeared, though the police tweet remains.


News media quoting Scotland Yard reported Yulia as saying: “Everything is fine, he [Sergei Skripal] is resting right now, sleeping. Everyone’s health is fine, nobody has any problems that can’t be put right. I will soon be discharging myself [from hospital].”

Yulia was released from hospital on April 9, according to the official announcement a day later. The hospital’s medical director confirmed that Sergei remained in hospital. “He is recovering more slowly than Yulia,”, the director claimed. “We hope that he too will be able to leave hospital in due course.” On May 18, the hospital announced: “ ‘Sergei Skripal is well enough to leave Salisbury District Hospital,’ the hospital’s Chief Executive Cara Charles-Barks said in a statement.” Since then no independent or direct evidence of Sergei Skripal, nor proof that he is alive, has been published.


The Russian Ambassador, Alexander Yakovenko, repeated the official request for consular access. “We are happy that he is all right,” Yakovenko told the BBC. “If they don’t want our assistance, that’s fine, but we want to see them physically.” The BBC reported that day: “Ms Skripal was released on 9 April and was moved to a secure location. It is not known whether Mr Skripal has been taken to the same location as his daughter.” The location, it now turns out in retrospect, was an American military base a 15-minute helicopter ride from the hospital.

The evidence of the location can be found in the film prepared by the Reuters organisation of New York and broadcast on May 23. Watch closely the scripted speech and the full video clip.


For the full story, including the Reuters English transcript, the video clip, and additional furtive signals by Yulia Skripal, read this.

Visual evidence in the film reveals in the background what appeared at first to be a chicken coop. Local sources have recognized it, as well as the surrounding foliage; remains of bark mulch; two differently constructed fences, one of diamond mesh and one of square mesh; a gate; and a right-curving path. The sources say this evidence identifies the Skripal film location in a corner of open parkland inside the air base known as RAF Fairford.


Source: https://www.rt.com/


The sources request anonymity. They say the timber and mesh construction visible behind Skripal’s head is a ladder trap for crows and magpies; for confirming details, read this. That and the other features visible in the Reuters film have been pinpointed on the Ordnance Survey map of the base area where the park path, shown as a blue line, reaches the Alaska Avenue corner.


Source: https://www.google.at/maps/ The blue line is identified in the Ordnance Survey map key as "other road, drive or track,fenced and unfenced"; it is visible as such in the satellite image.

RAF Fairford is regularly monitored by local plane spotters, who follow and photograph the movement of USAF bombers and electronic intelligence aircraft in and out of the base’s runway which has been lengthened and reinforced to accommodate them. The base is in Gloucestershire, 55 miles north of Salisbury, 100 miles west of London.


The history of the base, firstly under Royal Air Force (RAF) control and then under USAF control, can be read here. Sources familiar with the base say the parkland was left to go to weed when USAF operations were reduced after 2010. But current plans call for upgrading and repopulating the base with several hundred fresh USAF personnel.

A US report claims that prepositioning of nuclear warheads for USAF aircraft flying out of British bases ended in 2008. At that time, the ordnance withdrawn was reported to be B61 nuclear bombs designed to be loaded on F-16 fighter-bombers. Since 2016 US experts report that the B-52 and B-2 bombers operating from bases like Fairford have been “denuclearized”. “A total of 30 operational B-52s will be denuclearized before 2018 to reduce the number of deployed nuclear bombers to no more than 60”, wrote Hans Kristensen of the Federation of American Scientists (FAS) in September 2016. Following the Ukraine putsch of February 2014 and the escalation of the US war against Russia, new Pentagon budget spending has sharply increased for “enhanced prepositioning” of cruise missiles for B-52 and B-2 aircraft. The dual capability of such missiles – conventional explosive and nuclear – is well known. Whether USAF nuclear warheads have been returned to the British bases is not known publicly.

Between August 27 and September 20, USAF aircraft were reported locally as deployed at Fairford, including B-52 and B-2 bombers. They flew missions from Fairford to the “Norwegian Sea”, as well as Iceland, the Azores, and over Britain “in world-first partnership with RAF F-35 fighters”.

Deployed on 24 to 48-hour orders from their home bases in the US, they are intended for rapid action against Russia, or other US and NATO operational targets. In the past, USAF aircraft from Fairford participated in the bombing of Serbia in 1999, operations in Iraq in 2003, and simulated Russia-attack exercises in Poland and the Baltic states recently.


US and British ground staff monitor flight fueling at RAF Fairford in September; source: https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/ The “beauty of this place” [Fairford], according to the bomber wing commander, Lieut-Colonel Rob Schoeneberg, “puts us closer to the adversary. It challenges their ability to know where we are at, and know our striking distance.” Schoeneberg acknowledges the operational importance of prepositioning and airbase readiness for rapid deployment of the bombers. He did not mention that prepositioning includes fuel, aircraft maintenance and support equipment, as well as ordnance. The nuclear armament, bombs and missile warheads, of the B-52 is described here and for the B-2 here.




B-2 and B-52 flights from RAF Fairford in August and September. Source: https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/

The newly recognized evidence of Yulia Skripal’s location at RAF Fairford in May 2018 falls short of proving that she and her father continue to live there now. The newly available evidence suggests that the US Government took control of the Skripals immediately after their hospitalisation. Although MI6, the British foreign intelligence agency, had provided their home and security in Salisbury until March 4, 2018, it appears that Sergei Skripal is now a priority interest for the US.

“Being under US control is obviously why Russia has been denied consular access to the Skripals,” comments a Russian source. “HMG [Her Majesty’s Government] doesn’t have them.”

London sources speculate that the Skripals’ residence at the Fairford airbase was temporary, intended by the British and the American services to last only as long as Sergei Skripal took to recover. The sources point out that Yulia’s interview was broadcast only five days after her father’s release from hospital. They believe more time was required for Sergei’s condition to normalize enough for him to be self-sustaining in a new home. This is what has happened to his original one, bought for Skripal by MI6.

The sources suspect there was an agreement between MI6 and CIA for relocating the Skripals to the US, where they are less likely to be recognized. To fly them there by a US military plane from RAF Fairford was a simple, short-term expedient.

Moscow sources aren’t sure whether Sergei Skripal has recovered. They acknowledge that if he has, the US is the likely hiding place for him. They are sure of one thing: whether her father is alive or dead, Yulia Skripal will never be permitted to return to Russia as she told her cousin she wanted in the clandestine telephone call of April 5.

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Wow! Entirely plausible


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The Alternative Skripal Narrative
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by Michael Antony for The Saker Blog
https://thesaker.is/the-alternative-skripal-narrative/

The recent titbit fed to us by Bellingcat (reputedly close to MI6) that a third Russian agent was booked on the flight from Heathrow to Moscow on the night of 4th March 2018 — the flight taken by the two alleged GRU officers filmed in Salisbury — but didn’t show up for it, has pointed to a possible solution to the baffling Skripal puzzle. What if the third man, or perhaps the man who was supposed to take his place, was by then lying in Salisbury Hospital in a coma from opiate poisoning? What if Sergei Skripal was a triple agent trying to escape back to Russia to tell the world the truth about the Steele Dossier, which he had helped to concoct as a scurrilous, obscene joke and which had unexpectedly become the new bible of the insane war party in Washington?

This is the alternative narrative I will set out in detail here so that the reader can judge whether it forms a more plausible and coherent story than the mishmash of improbabilities, absurdities and contradictions served up by the British police and MI6. Of course in the absence of all the facts we must sometimes use imaginative reconstruction to fill in the gaps, but the point is to see how many thorny problems, raised by the facts we do have, can be solved by this narrative and cannot be solved by the official one.

It is not necessary to decide whether Skripal was a triple agent from the start (that is, a plant sent across in a spy swap, a classic Cold War way of infiltrating the enemy) or whether he became a triple agent when he realized how important this grotesque Steele Dossier had become and how much the Russians would pay him to come back and demolish it. What evidence there is (his phone call in 2012 to his old school friend, Vladimir Timoshkov, whose account of it three weeks after the poisoning gained widespread UK media coverage) suggests he started out as a purely mercenary traitor. Disillusioned by the collapse of the USSR into a gangster capitalist state run by Yeltsin’s mafia cronies, he decided he might as well profit from it by selling the corpse of what had once been his country to the highest bidder. The Russians didn’t seem to think of him as much more than a common criminal (only worth a moderate 13-year sentence, instead of the death penalty he would have got in the USA for betraying 300 agents) or they wouldn’t have let him survive six years in their prison. Perhaps when they exchanged him in the spy swap they gave him a wink and said: “Since you’re just a money-grubbing whore, any time you want to come back with some interesting stuff learned from working for MI6, let us know and we’ll discuss the price.”

He soon got to learn that interesting stuff when he was sent to Salisbury, the home town of his MI6 recruiter and handler, Pablo Miller. Miller had recruited him in Spain in 1995 and later handled him from Estonia, when he was posted there as a diplomat. It is a little too much to believe Skripal’s move to Salisbury was a coincidence. The two men became friends again, met regularly in the pub, and there is every reason to think Miller resumed his role as handler. Miller was now working for Christopher Steele, his old boss at MI6, in his private intelligence firm, Orbis Business Intelligence, based in Mayfair. This is one of the private intelligence-gathering outfits run by ex-spies of the kind Litvinenko used to work for. Just as Litvinenko got Lugovoy (his accused assassin) to help him out with due diligence reports on Russian businessmen because of his more up-to-date information, so Miller would have used Skripal in the same way. His help became vital when Steele got the commission from the Democratic Party to dig up Russian dirt on Donald Trump, and they had to invent some GRU set-up of the Donald with prostitutes in a Moscow hotel. Miller, the old Russia hand, would have done a good part of the work on this dossier and would have needed all the authentic detail his Russian agent could provide. Perhaps it was Skripal who came up with the scenario of Trump getting prostitutes to urinate on the bed the Obamas had slept in, which hidden cameras filmed. He must at least have given it his imprimatur as a typical GRU blackmail ploy to turn somebody into an asset. And that obscene fiction, the core of the Steele Dossier, became the basis of the neo-con legend that Trump was a Russian stooge — the insane underpinning of the whole mad Mueller probe into “Russian collusion”.

When Sergei the mercenary realized the vast importance this farcical, obscene Steele Dossier had taken on, that it was gospel truth for the whole anti-Trump, anti-Russia war party in Washington, he began to see how much it might be worth to the Russian state to blow it sky-high. If he were to describe on a prime-time Russian talk-show how he invented these obscene details over a beer with Miller and Steele in a pub, it would not only have all of Russia rolling on the floor with laughter. Heads would roll in Washington. The neo-con war party would become a laughing-stock. MI6 would be run out of town. Steele might face FBI perjury charges. The CIA might have its budget cut. Trump would be able to talk to Putin again. And the rewards for Sergei might be considerable. Not only seeing his 90-year old mother again, but perhaps even a * villa with a sea-view in Crimea or Sochi instead of that dank, shabby row-house in darkest Salisbury.

Was it Sergei who broached this subject to Yulia on one of her visits to Britain, or was she recruited by the GRU to put it to him? My bet is the latter, since after the poisoning her cousin Viktoria claimed Yulia’s new boyfriend and his mother both worked for the Russian secret services (before disappearing from view.) With all of Sergei’s communications monitored by MI6, the only way he had of talking to the GRU was through his daughter, living back in Russia again but able to visit Britain. Through her he must have managed to negotiate a deal for his return. Somehow MI6 got wind of their plans — perhaps Yulia, not a trained spy, was a bit naive or careless about listening devices. Steele became convinced they had made an escape plan for Sergei, to be carried out next time she visited Salisbury.

The thing that proves this was a British crime not a Russian one is the fact that Yulia was a prime target. The Russians had no motive to eliminate her, but if they had, they could have done it in Russia with a simple road accident with no questions asked. Only the British had to do it in Britain, since they didn’t have the resources in place to do it in Russia. And if she was not a prime target but collateral damage, why was Sergei not attacked when he was alone? Why wait for her to visit him? The fact they were both targeted the day after she arrived in Britain puts MI6’s signature all over it. She was a danger to MI6 because she knew of Sergei’s plan to return to Russia and trash the Steele Dossier, and she had to be stopped from revealing this to the world when he was killed. Silencing her at the same time was just as important to MI6 as silencing him.

To imagine that Putin would have ordered the assassination of an old double agent whom he had held for six years in prison (with ample opportunities to arrange his death) and then pardoned and swapped in a spy swap (part of the rules of the spying game on which his own life had been based), a week before the Russian elections and three months before the Football World Cup in Russia, which he hoped would lead to Russia’s re-acceptance into the community of nations, makes no sense. It carried only huge risks for a negligible benefit, and Putin does not take pointless risks, as his consistent prudence in Syria, even when his forces have been attacked, has shown. Compare the enormous gains this crime brought Britain. This assassination (as it was meant to be) gave MI6 a perfect opportunity to frame the Russians and incite a new anti-Russia frenzy to sabotage their celebratory Football World Cup (compared by the British Foreign Secretary to Hitler’s Olympics.) It would also show the EU Britain’s value as an anti-Putin cheerleader, bringing Europe and Britain together in an anti-Russia hate-week to distract from their Brexit quarrel, and uniting a fractious parliament behind a floundering leader. With any luck it would derail the Nordstream2 gas pipeline, a priority target for the US neo-con plan to ruin Russia’s economy, overthrow the regime and break up the country — goals MI6 fully shared, as their propaganda wing, the Integrity Initiative, has since made clear. In fact MI6’s plans to work for the total isolation and economic ruin of Russia, including sporting bans and ending cultural exchanges, date from 2015 and were leaked recently by Anonymous. The enormous preponderance of motivation on the British side, as well as the low risk in carrying out such a crime on their own turf with a grovelling press, a brainwashed public and tame police, point clearly to MI6 as the perpetrators.

Steele probably turned to his CIA friends for suggestions on how to frame Russia. They came up with novichok. This nerve agent invented by a Soviet chemist who later moved to the US and published the formula could be pinned on Russia as a uniquely Russian “chemical weapon.” Never mind that any decent laboratory could produce it, as a chemistry professor at Cornell has testified. Never mind that the British-invented nerve agent VX had been used to assassinate Kim Yong-Un’s half-brother in Kuala Lumpur Airport without Malaysia screaming that Britain must have done it. Russia is different. Hysterical hatred can be instantly incited against Russia by the MI6-controlled media and MI6-brainwashed politicians. Anyone who doubts Russia’s guilt can be vilified as a Putin stooge. Whether the novichok was sent over from the US by courier or produced at Porton Down is not important. What is important is that MI6’s attempt to kill the Skripals with novichok failed disastrously.

Let’s take the famous Nina Ricci perfume bottle, laced with novichok, which was found in a rubbish bin or charity bin by a homeless man and given weeks later to his woman friend, who tragically died after spraying it on her wrist. The police/MI6 narrative is that this perfume bottle was used to transport the novichok from Russia in the baggage of one of the alleged GRU men caught on CCTV in Salisbury. The novichok was then sprayed on the door handle of the Skripals’ house. The assassins then callously threw away the bottle (which they knew contained enough novichok to kill more people) in a dustbin or charity bin, demonstrating their indifference to loss of life as well as their indifference to leaving clues all over the place. There are problems with this narrative.

The homeless man claimed he had found the perfume bottle still in its box sealed in cellophane, proof it was not reopened after it had been laced with novichok and professionally repackaged. The bottle could not therefore have been used (as claimed) to spray the novichok on the doorknob, or the cellophane seal would have been broken. Assassins far from home don’t usually carry around cellophane-wrapping machines to repackage opened perfume bottles, especially when they are just going to chuck them in the bin. Nor would they take the risk, having fitted the separate spray nozzle onto the bottle and sprayed the doorknob, of disassembling it again to put it back in the box, knowing that a drop on their skin would kill them. And where would they perform this delicate operation? On the street? This poisoned perfume bottle was therefore never reopened, never used and it affected nobody until it ended up in the hands of the homeless man. So who or what was it intended for?

Ladies’ perfume bottles are normally intended for women. How many women are there in this story? Only one. The only possible explanation for the existence of this unopened, unused bottle of perfume laced with novichok is that it was a poisoned gift meant for Yulia Skripal. Why didn’t she open it? Because she had a spy father who took one look at it and said: “Don’t touch it!”

So here is the alternative narrative. MI6 had the bright idea of putting novichok in a Nina Ricci perfume bottle and sending it as a birthday present to Yulia Skripal at her father’s house. Her birthday was on 17th March, but the present was probably delivered on the 3rd, the day she arrived, so as to nip their escape plan in the bud. It was meant to seem like a present from her family or boyfriend. No doubt the parcel had Russian stamps on it, designed to frame the Russian state when the Skripals were found dead in their house with an open perfume bottle in Yulia’s hands. Unfortunately for MI6, Sergei took one look at this Nina Ricci perfume bottle and his spy instincts smelled danger. He refused to open it, but instead went for a long walk with it and put it in a rubbish bin or charity bin half-way across town. There it was found by the homeless man and given to his woman friend, a victim of MI6’s murderous callousness. Even after MI6 knew it had gone missing, they did not warn the public to beware of picking up a Nina Ricci perfume bottle because they didn’t want to give themselves away as the assassins.

The failure of the perfume bottle to kill the Skripals must have alarmed MI6. They followed the pair around Salisbury the next day. Where did they go? We can’t be sure since we have not been given all the CCTV footage. But let us engage in some more imaginative reconstruction to cover the gaps. The Skripals’ car made some unexplained journeys towards the outskirts of the town. The two alleged GRU men caught on Salisbury’s CCTV walked in some unexplained directions, with not a scrap of evidence they came within half a kilometre of the Skripals’ home. What if the two unexplained journeys intersected? Not necessarily in time but in place. What if they met at that hoary cliché of spy stories, the dead drop, the discreet delivery point for a package? The hole-in-a-garden-wall just big enough to hide something? A Mossad spy, commenting on the British police narrative, said that no GRU assassination team would ever have flown direct from Russia using Russian passports. But a support team delivering a package? Why not? What did they risk?

Now what would the GRU need to deliver to Sergei Skripal to help him escape from Britain back to Russia? Clearly, a passport. MI6, once they suspected his loyalty, would have put him on an airport watch list. He would need a passport in a false name to get out, and perhaps a flight ticket to Moscow in the same name so he wouldn’t need to make an internet booking, easily spied on. But the passport could not be blank. It needed a UK visa and entry stamp. So the third Russian agent who Bellingcat now tells us didn’t show up for the flight back to Moscow must have intended his seat to be taken by Sergei Skripal, who would use the passport and visa which he had flown in with a few days before (delivered to Sergei by his two colleagues at the dead drop that day.) Either Sergei and the third man bore a sufficient physical resemblance or passport photos were switched by an expert forger in London. Unfortunately, though Sergei now had a usable passport, he was hit before he made it to the flight.

MI6, after the failure of the perfume bottle attempt, knew they had to act fast to stop the Skripals driving to the airport. Once they observed the package delivery at the dead drop, they would have guessed it was a passport. There was now no chance of using novichok. The Skripals were unlikely to return home and pack a bag, so they had to be knocked out in a public place. Using novichok and risking the lives of dozens of other people was too much even for MI6. So they decided to spray them in the street with an opiate like Fentanyl, and later on to add novichok to the blood samples they sent to Porton Down for analysis (without of course any controlled chain of custody except their own.)

We know that the Skipals were knocked out with an opiate and not a nerve agent because of a simple incident — in fact, a slip-up. The first person on the scene when the Skripals collapsed on their bench was an army nurse, the Chief Nursing Officer of the British Army, Colonel Alison McCourt, accompanied by her teenage daughter, Abigail. Does anyone believe she was there by chance and was not part of the MI6 team following the Skripals about and looking for an opportunity to drug them discreetly? Now Colonel McCourt had long experience both with Ebola in Sierra Leone and with the danger of chemical weapons during her service in Iraq, where protection against nerve agents was a priority. She knew the enormous precautions required in approaching a victim of a nerve agent attack. Yet Colonel McCourt encouraged her daughter to rush over to the collapsed Skripals and begin administering first aid to them, something very dangerous if a nerve agent had been used. She later even recommended Abigail for a medal for heroism for her action, which is why it got into the papers. How did Colonel McCourt know that a nerve agent had not been used on the Skripals, unless she was part of the team that had sprayed them with an opiate? Would she have allowed her daughter to touch the Skipals unless she was sure there was no nerve agent present? This is what is known as a smoking gun.

There has been extraordinary silence in the mainstream media about the fact that none of the first responders or the Salisbury Hospital staff were in any way affected by the deadliest nerve agent known to man, even though no precautions were taken against it for at least two days. The nurses assumed they were dealing with an opiate overdose. When the blood test results came back from Porton Down showing novichok present in the blood samples, the hazmat suits were donned and the hospital allegedly went into panic mode. We can assume most of this was a charade. Sergeant Bailey, allegedly contaminated with novichok though the police can’t decide where, recounts in the Panorama BBC film shown in November that the nurses who cared for him wore full hazmat suits, but his wife and children wandered in to see him wearing no protection at all. Clearly the nurses were engaging in an MI6-mandated charade but couldn’t bear to impose it on his family because they knew there was no novichok present. Bailey, no doubt also drugged by an opiate, had been selected as a fake British victim to stir up more indignation against Russia, and to add further fake proof that novichok had been used, which the total absence of contamination of first responders might cast doubt on. As part of this charade, all the poor man’s furniture and belongings were destroyed by the heartless brutes of MI6, which he recounts in tears, in order to incite more irrational hatred of Russia — which the British public, the most brainwashed on earth, came up with on cue.

Of course the failure of the perfume bottle assassination attempt, and the need to switch drugs and use an opiate instead of novichok, left MI6 and the police with the task of explaining how the phantom novichok was administered. The farcical story they finally came up with, that it was sprayed on the Skripals’ front door handle with the perfume bottle, has convinced nobody except the brainwashed masses. Even the clownish Foreign Secretary’s story that MI6 had shown him a Russian spy handbook which described how their spies had recently been practising putting novichok on door handles (a technical skill obviously requiring weeks of training and about to be unleashed en masse against Britain’s unsuspecting doorknobs) but unfortunately he couldn’t produce this handbook as it was classified, left people howling with laughter. It was worthy of a Monty Python sketch, something the Russians, who are great fans of British comedy, must have appreciated.

The idea that assassins could walk up to the front door of a terraced house in broad daylight, a door with clear glass panels in the middle and on both sides of it, so that anyone outside is visible from the hallway, and spray the doorknob with novichok while the Skripals were inside and their car was in the driveway, is simply not believable. These professional assassins did not even have a car or even bicycles to make a getaway if seen. And the two police versions of what time the attackers did this, first of all at 9.15 before the Skripals left home and then at 1.30 (after the police revised their timeline to fit the train schedule of the two Russians caught on CCTV) would both have left many hours’ delay before this deadly nerve agent took effect at 4.15 that afternoon.

We are asked to believe that two people of very different size, a man of 66 and a girl half that age, fell unconscious at the exact same moment either seven hours or three hours after being poisoned with a deadly “military grade” nerve agent. Why this delayed effect? Would this be useful in a battlefield chemical weapon — let’s leave the enemy active for several hours? And how to get a simultaneous collapse many hours later? No explanation. And if novichok was used to attack the Skripals, why was Abigail McCourt not affected when she gave them first aid and why did her highly trained army nurse mother allow her to touch victims of a deadly nerve agent?

The intelligent people who work in Salisbury Hospital cannot possibly be dupes to this grotesque deception, riddled with impossibilities. They are therefore accomplices and criminally responsible. I believe many of the hospital staff suspected MI6 was staging this whole thing but went along with it because of the high level of Cold War, anti-Russian brainwashing of the British population. They saw it as an exciting spy game they were taking part in with their wonderful secret services who had Won the War and Saved the World. It was a question of loyalty to Britain to defend this criminal lie. They must have suspected the Skripals’ blood samples had been laced afterwards with novichok. Perhaps the OPCW did too, since they claimed the traces of novichok were “very pure”. Was that a hint it had never been through any human body? One can sympathize with the Russians for trying to hack the laboratory computers to find out if any of the experts had expressed doubts to each other or suspicions the OPCW had set this up. Since they knew they were victims of a shameless NATO conspiracy to frame them, all they could do was try to expose it by any means they had.

The Russians’ patience and calm in the face of this campaign of lies and hate have been almost saint-like. If the West is not wiped out by the nuclear war they are constantly pushing for with Russia, then one day Britain and all the other NATO vassal states which wrongfully expelled droves of Russian diplomats will have to make Russia an abject apology and pay compensation for the misery caused the Russian people by their illegal sanctions. Is it too much to hope that some people at Salisbury Hospital or in the local police who know the truth will have the courage sooner or later to come forward and expose this vile warmongering deception, and the totalitarian media manipulation by the sinister forces that secretly govern Britain? Do they spare a thought for the Skripals and the state they are in right now — held incommunicado without any charge against them, not represented by any lawyer, and unable to communicate with their family or the public? Surely they are not fooled by that scripted video? Where are the human rights campaigners protesting against this totalitarian sequestration? What world are they living in? Has it not occurred to them that in the era of MI6’s proven involvement in torture, whether in Guantanamo, Abu Graib, black sites or extraordinary rendition to places where people can be tortured to death, Yulia Skripal might be listening every night to her father whimpering in the next cell as the voice goes on repeating: “You Ruskie b******, tell us when you started lying to us.”

The official narrative about the Skripals has been shot full of holes by various dissident commentators in the alternative media. That always begs the question: well, so what really happened? The above alternative narrative, combining both the known facts and speculations to cover the gaps where the facts are still missing, should allow the reader to judge its overall plausibility, compared to the official one. To prove an alternative narrative to the criminal’s story, a prosecutor does not need to establish every single event in the chain, many of which will remain unknown. He only needs to prove that certain key events in the criminal’s narrative are contrary to the known facts, and that these facts are compatible with the alternative narrative. The key facts in this case are the state of the Nina Ricci perfume bottle, clearly never opened after it was laced with novichok and repackaged, and therefore never used to spray novichok anywhere; the impossibility of a deadly nerve agent having a three hour delay in its effects and then affecting two very different people at the same moment; the unlikelihood of a senior army nurse allowing her daughter to touch victims of a nerve agent; the unlikelihood novichok was used (rather than an opiate), given the lack of any effect on the first responders, and the fact Sergeant Bailey’s children were allowed to approach him without wearing hazmat suits, which the nurses, however, wore.

Put those basic problems in the official narrative together with the speed with which the UK government blamed Russia for this event, when there was no more link between Russia and novichok than between Britain and the use of British-invented VX nerve agent to assassinate Kim Yong Un’s half-brother in Kuala Lumpur airport. No nerve agent whose formula has been published is the monopoly of any nation, nor does its use incriminate any nation. This rush to judgment reveals a premeditated plan by Britain to use this event to sabotage Russia’s Football World Cup (which they compared to Hitler’s Olympics) as part of a long-term British goal to isolate, discredit and economically ruin Russia. The need for MI6 to prevent Skripal exposing the Steele Dossier, produced by Skripal’s MI6 handlers, since it would show the degree of Britain’s cynical interference in the American election to discredit Trump and destroy any rapprochement with Russia, formed the motive for MI6 to commit murder, for which it has a considerable reputation. Combining the two things, killing the Skripals and crucifying Russia for it, was no doubt seen as a great coup by MI6. It was seen as even more ingenious to follow up this alleged “chemical weapons” attack on British soil with the fake chemical attack at Douma staged by the White Helmets, founded and financed by MI6. This was aimed at relaunching the war to overthrow Assad and dismantle Syria, giving the Americans and the Israelis its oil fields, and allowing Qatari gas to be piped to Europe to replace Russian gas. All of these fit Britain’s and NATO’s known strategic goals. The speed of the knee-jerk response of NATO countries in expelling Russian diplomats, without any debate or demand for evidence in any parliament, raises the suspicion that this was planned not by MI6 alone but jointly with the CIA and other NATO secret services, which largely control supposedly democratic governments.

The continued NATO harassment, sanctions and campaigns of lies and false accusations against Russia, including the blatant war rhetoric of the British Defence Secretary, do not bode well for the future. For the US to tear up nuclear arms treaties and then blame Russia is beyond shameful: it is destroying all possibility of negotiations to avert war. The Kerch Strait incident staged by the puppet regime in Kiev, sending gunboats into the Kerch Strait without observing the 2003 Protocol requiring them to notify in advance the Port of Kerch (a protocol observed by the dozens of ships that go through the Strait peacefully every day) was clearly part of a NATO plan to set up a major naval clash in the Black Sea. That clash (followed by an attempt to recapture Crimea or at least blow up its magnificent bridge, a reproach to a man who cannot even build a wall) may be expected in coming months, perhaps as a distraction from Brexit or a way of derailing it. NATO, in short, is on a clear trajectory towards war with Russia, which their deluded worldview convinces them they can win. Their initial use of Russia as a scapegoat and bogeyman to unite the NATO vassals against a common threat, keeping Europe in subjection to America, has got out of hand, and is heading, under the impetus of hysterical rhetoric, towards actual war. Unless decent people unite to stop this escalation then the nuclear catastrophe will occur. Exposing the barefaced lie of the Skripal false flag attack may be a step towards averting that global cataclysm.

Michael Antony is a writer based in Switzerland, and his next book, about the coming nuclear war, is called Requiem for America. He has a blog, michaelantonyblog@wordpress.com

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The Skripal Case – Two Years On
Mar 4, 2020
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/04/the-skripal-case-two-years-on/

Sergey Skripal with his daughter Yulia in their favorite Zizzi restaurant in Salisbury

It’s been two years to the day since disgraced former military intelligence officer Sergei Skripal, and his daughter Yulia, were allegedly found on a park bench in Salisbury, near unconscious and apparently very unwell.

A lot has been said about the unanswered questions revolving around the incident. But perhaps the best of way of demonstrating the peculiarity of the alleged situation is to simply relate, in full, the “official version”.

Here it is:

Sergei Skripal, a Russian military intelligence officer, was found guilty of spying for the UK in 2006, and sentenced to 13 years in prison.
In 2010 he was released and traded to the United Kingdom as part of a spy swap. Having settled in the UK Sergei lived a quiet and comfortable life of retirement, so far as we know
Eight years later, in early 2018, with a Presidential election looming and just weeks before Russia was due to host the FIFA World Cup, Vladimir Putin decided to assassinate him for as yet obscure reasons.
The GU, Russia’s military intelligence unit, dispatched two of their elite officers, who proceeded to fly direct from Moscow under aliases they had allegedly already employed and using Russian passports.
These alleged assassins carried with them two perfume bottles full of “Novichok”, allegedly one of the deadliest nerve agents ever devised. This would be enough to kill around 800,000 people.
On arriving in the UK these highly-trained covert agents book a hotel with a CCTV camera on the front door, and the next day, March 3, they travel to Salisbury by train, allegedly to recon the area, then return to London. They are apparently observed by CCTV camera’s the entire time.
The day following, March 4, they again travel to Salisbury, this time the master assassins walk to Skripal’s house and somehow “smear” the liquid Novichok on the handle of his front door.
No eye-witness, photograph or piece of CCTV footage has ever been made publicly available to show either of these two men anywhere in the area of Sergei Skripal’s house.
The whereabouts of the opened bottle of poison have never been established.
Having applied the poison, the two highly trained assassins do two things before returning to London. 1) They drop their second, unopened, bottle of novichok (presumably enough to kill approx 400,000 people) in a charity donation bin, rather than destroying it or taking it back to Russia. 2) They stop by an antiques store to browse.
The two assassins leave the country that afternoon, flying direct to Moscow, without knowing if their alleged target is dead, and again making no effort to conceal their origins.
Despite both handling the poison, and somehow carrying enough of it back to contaminate their hotel room, neither of the men – nor any of the staff, train passengers or passersby who come into contact with them – ever become sick, even though only 0.2mg of Novichok is an allegedly lethal dose.
Later that afternoon, Sergei and Yulia Skripal are found “almost unconscious”on a park bench in Salisbury town centre. It is claimed this was due to contact with the Novichok smeared on Sergei’s door handle, though reports originally stated neither he nor his daughter had returned to the house, and the timing seems to make it unlikely they did
The person who found them was the most senior nurse in the British Army (likely in the area as part of Toxic Dagger, the British Military’s landmark chemical weapons training exercise which began Feb 20th and ran on until March 12th).
The nurse and her family administer “emergency aid” to the two alleged poisoning victims. Neither she nor anyone else on the scene, nor any of the first responders, ever experience any symptoms of nerve agent poisoning. Neither do any of the other people the Skripal’s came into contact with that day.
DS Nick Bailey, a CID officer is in contact with the Skripals or their home at this time and subsequently becomes ill. It has never been stated how exactly he was exposed. It was initially reported he was a first responder to the scene, but that story was changed and it was later claimed he visited the Skripal hpouse. Despite the alleged lethality of novichok in even very minute doses, Bailey is fit to return home after 18 days.
Porton Down, the British government’s chemical weapons research centre, is brought in to help identify what chemical – if any – the Skripals/Bailey were exposed to.
Within a month they release a statement claiming the poison was “a novichok like agent”, but that they could not pinpoint its origin. How they were able to test for a (at the time) theoretical chemical without having a sample to test against, has never been explained.
Porton Down is 8 minutes away from Salisbury by car.
Nearly four months later, in late June of 2018, Charlie Rowley finds the unopened perfume bottle a full of novichok (whether he bought it from a charity shop or found it in a bin is unclear, both stories have been reported). Upon using the perfume Rowley’s partner, Dawn Sturgess, falls ill. Later that day Rowley also falls ill. Sturgess dies in hospital two weeks later. But Rowley survives. Making him the fourth person in this narrative to survive exposure to an agent lethal in doses as small as 0.2mg.
Sergei Skripal and Julia both recovered and allegedly chose to live secluded lives. Sergei has not appeared in public at all since allegedly being found on that park bench. Yulia made one brief press statement. Their current whereabouts are totally unknown. Their family in Russia have apparently been denied all access to them. DS Bailey was initially also keen to maintain his privacy but has subsequently given at least one interview some while after the event.

This is the UK government’s version of what happened. Unvarnished and unsatirised. None of it is disputed, exaggerated or speculative.

If you can see any unanswered questions, logical gaps or peculiar coincidences…you are likely a Russian bot.
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Jim Winners
Jim Winners

In my opinion from researching the entire picture the Skripal fiasco was initiated for a number of reasons, 1 the Golden Showers Dossier invented by former head of the Russia desk at MI6 Mr. Christopher Steele loyal former MI6 agent at the Russia desk Pablo Miller and his former double agent Sergei Skripal. The fall out that the UK’s secret service had been working against the now POTUS could be devastating and any ‘loose threads’ needed to be pulled, Sergei was just such a loose thread. 2, Russia had ruined the UK’s plan to remove Assad in Syria via their proxy Islamist terrorist armies they’d been corralling since as early as 2009, turning Syria into yet another failed state which could pose no threat to the West’s new vision of the Middle East. This vision was now well and truly flushed down the lavatory thanks to Putin. 3, Humiliate Russia by ruining the World Cup, had half a dozen teams decided not to enter because of the fake novichok tale the World Cup would have been a total wash-out and Russia would not have been able to impress the World and its mother, a situation that came to fruition and tourism has had a massive boost since the World Cup. 4, peddle the lie that Russia is this James Bond like villain who goes to ridiculous lengths with ridiculous plot lines to murder its enemies with the most dangerous chemical known to man thus threatening many innocent lives, only luck stopped this happening. Of course motive is one aspect completely missing from the UK’s version, if Putin had wanted Sergei dead he’d have died in prison, or when he contacted Putin 3 years previous asking permission to return to see his mother, Putin refused, surely had he wanted the man dead he’d have said yes and then had him thrown under the wheels of a passing lorry? And we must remember that the highest levels of polonium in the Litvinenko case were found not in the tea pot or the hotel but in Litvinenko’s boss’ office the dodgy oligarch Boris Berezovsky. No explanation has ever been made for this fact.
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Mar 9, 2020 12:03 PM
Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill

Looking once more at the photo of the Skripals above, is that a glass of Corona Sergei is toasting with? (Sorry for being so flippant. I was getting awfully confused/depressed with the other OffG story…)
I still cannot recall who the chap taking the photo is: was he dining with them, or maybe from a different table, or one of the waiter staff? Is he relevant to the narratives (official and alternative)?
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Mar 6, 2020 8:06 PM
lundiel
lundiel

He’s Pablo, Sergei’s MI6 handler.
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Mar 6, 2020 10:03 PM
Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill

Thanks, Lundiel. Is he then protected by the D Notice? One wonders if he has a new job at Integrity Initiative, or maybe he is the new head of White Helmets….Lots of interesting job opportunities for these psychopathic liars. They are indeed like a contagion which seeks to infest and destroy the minds and lives of simple, honest, trusting people. It would be fascinating to read a psychiatric assessment.
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Mar 6, 2020 10:37 PM
Jen
Jen

As far as I know, Pablo Miller is protected by a D-notice so if he were the individual whose reflection appears in the mirror of the photo, that photo would presumably have never seen the light of day in the first place and would not have been available for sharing since then. The individual taking the picture of the Skripals sharing a toast is likely to be someone else.

Some sources I have seen suggest that person was the driver who picked up Julia Skripal at the airport in London and drove her to Salisbury Saturday 3 March 2018 to meet her father. The driver was well known to both Skripals as the photo of the two holding up their glasses predates their March 4 disappearance.
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Mar 7, 2020 8:29 PM
Tony
Tony

Not sure about that. If you compare to the photos of him on the web, the eyebrows are very different.
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Mar 6, 2020 11:49 PM
Maggie
Maggie

I disagree Tony.. look at the bridge of the nose where the eyebrows meet. the creases are the same .. the photographer is Pablo Miller.
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Mar 8, 2020 3:22 PM
Brian Eggar
Brian Eggar

Maybe,this could be like The Mouse Trap”.

Could the detective have been applying some BZ around the Skripal home and spilt some on himself.

That might explain why the Skripal home had to be virtually demolished along with everything else.
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Mar 6, 2020 7:49 PM
Maggie
Maggie

You may be right there Brian? Perhaps that is why the ‘Detective’s home’ has been demolished?
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Mar 8, 2020 3:23 PM
Brian Eggar
Brian Eggar

I had forgotten about that.

Again if Skripal had got hold of some of the viruses that Porton Down were working on then that might explain the paranoia exhibited by the British Government.
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Mar 8, 2020 7:43 PM
Maggie
Maggie

Novichock is the red herring here Brian..
Skripal was working for MI6 on a dossier requested by Killary, intended to discredit Trump and prevent him being President. He knew his position was fragile, so to cover his back he kept a copy.
When his daughter came to invite him to her wedding in Russia, and said she had a safe passage for him, and two bodyguards had been arranged to escort them. The spooks had to act quickly to get them off the streets, so drugged their drinks, and then when they had been given the anti dote, MI6 tortured them to find out where the duplicated documents were. That is the reason they took the house to pieces, and even removed the roof?
Yulia and Sergei are now dead.
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Mar 9, 2020 2:02 AM
Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle

‘Wars really are started by the mainstrem media’

During the war on Iraq did you know America’s media watch-dog was run by Colin Powell’s son?
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Mar 6, 2020 6:09 PM
Maggie
Maggie

I wasn’t aware of that Harry, thanks.
Are you aware that the Syrian Opposition Watch/ United National’s Democratic Council is controlled by the Butcher of Homs Rifaat al Asaad’s son Safir? Who is also the chairman of the Arab News Network, the first Arab satellite channel focused on Middle Eastern affairs, political news and analytical journalism. which broadcasts in both English & Arabic & is dedicated to News& entertainment. LONDON.


Safir and his brother Ribal can be seen constantly criticising his cousin, on Western media.
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Mar 8, 2020 6:00 PM
willie
willie

God shave your queen,and her fascist regime,still stands.
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Mar 6, 2020 4:03 PM
Daniel
Daniel

Well, this is disappointing. First it mocks the official narrative because the “highly trained assassins” were caught on CCTV (which is a particularly specious line of reasoning), and then it mocks it for them *not* being caught on CCTV. Apparently, without a hint of irony 🤦🏻‍♂️

Then it mocks the official narrative because the people who came into contact with the Skripals were unaffected, before proceeding to mention the policeman, who *was* affected 🤦🏻‍♂️

It repeatedly claims that the compound was much less deadly than Novichok, ignoring the facts that (a) it did kill somebody, (b) it’s wrong to presume that it was 100% pure, and (c) assuming, realistically, that they were using old Soviet Uzbeki stock of the notoriously-difficult-to-synthesise compound from the 1970s, the efficacy would have dropped significantly, because all drugs “go off” 🤦🏻‍♂️

They falsely hypothesise that the compound couldn’t have been identified as a Novichok-like nerve agent because Novichoks were unknown, hadn’t been characterised before, and there was no sample to test it against. The facts are that they’ve been known to intelligence agencies since the 1990s, samples were created and characterised in Iran in 2016 and given to the OPCW, and there was never any need for a reference sample because unknown compounds can be identified by mass spectroscopy (which is a very basic analytical chemistry technique) 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

There’s clearly some degree of obfuscation surrounding the events, but the author has just filled the holes in the official story with unscientific, irrational nonsense
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Mar 6, 2020 11:52 AM
Daniel
Daniel

All those people disliking my post because they don’t agree with objective reality. SMH 🤦🏻‍♂️
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Mar 6, 2020 2:25 PM
Ken Kenn
Ken Kenn

Sorry Daniel – the person ” killed ” was Dawn.

Her long running inquest into how she died and what she died of is apparently still ongoing.

No-one has provably died of Novichok poisoning.

Not according to the Coroner as of yet.
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Mar 6, 2020 11:13 PM
Tony
Tony

The OPCW found the Novichok to be pure, even though it had been exposed to the elements, and was several weeks old.

The first responders (Army senior nurse and daughter) didn’t get infected. Children helping the Skripals to feed ducks in the park (one of them ate a piece of bread handed to him by Sergei) didn’t get infected. Nobody in the pub the Skripals were drinking in got infected. Nobody in the Zizzis restaurant the Skripals ate in got infected.

A year-and-a-half after Dawn Sturgess’s death ( yes, she had a name), and there STILL has not been an inquest.

Btw, shills being uncofortable about the personal details of victims when telling lies is always a dead giveaway.
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Mar 6, 2020 6:15 PM
Vierotchka
Vierotchka

Not exactly. The OPCW found the Novichok in the blood samples of the Skripals to be pure, even though those samples were taken some twenty or so days after the Skripals were allegedly poisoned, which means that pure Novichok was added to the blood samples because after 20 days, if someone is poisoned with Novichok, much of the Novichok has been metabolized and is not pure at all.
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Mar 6, 2020 7:13 PM
Tony
Tony

If the government narrative is to be believed, the Novichok spent some time exposed to the elements on the front door handle of Sergei’s house. As you point out, the fact that the Novichok analysed by the OPCW was found to be pure makes a nonsense of the government narrative.
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Mar 6, 2020 7:45 PM
Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

I reckon you’ve squished Matt2 pretty comprehensively there.
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Mar 6, 2020 9:46 PM
Jen
Jen

The author of the article has not said anything that departs from the official version of the timeline of the events surrounding the Skripals’ disappearance and the mysterious government and police treatment of their house. If anything, you are putting words into the author’s mouth (or fingers as it were) and insinuating that the author is smearing the official account with lies. Then you have the hide to whine when people see through your attempts to twist facts and derail the discussion.

Poor widdle troll.
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Mar 6, 2020 7:32 PM
Mark
Mark

It’s just ‘Matt’, in his new mask. Now he’s a scientist. There’s upward mobility for you; only two years ago he was a computer-science student in his final year of university. And a Venezuelan to boot.
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Mar 7, 2020 5:08 AM
Jen
Jen

Is he still receiving money from his family in Venezuela to pay off the student debt or is he sending money to his family because his folks are all poor and suffering from Maduros being unable to manage the economy due to the US sanctions?

🙂
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Mar 8, 2020 3:25 AM
Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

Integrity Initiative have cloned ‘Matt’.
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Mar 6, 2020 9:39 PM
Daniel
Daniel

“Btw, shills being uncofortable about the personal details of victims when telling lies is always a dead giveaway.”

Wind your neck in, Tone 😂 What on earth makes you think I felt uncomfortable about using her name? It was just an unnecessary detail. And I read the exact same article you did, so no need to repeat it.

I’m sorry for mistakingly using the word “pure” – I was speaking colloquially, and was actually referring to the concentration (which means something else in chemistry)🤦🏻‍♂️

“If the government narrative is to be believed, the Novichok spent some time exposed to the elements on the front door handle of Sergei’s house. As you point out, the fact that the Novichok analysed by the OPCW was found to be pure makes a nonsense of the government narrative.”

That’s a weird assumption to make 🤔 What makes you think that it being on the doornob would make it less pure? Or less concentrated, for that matter? 🤔🤔🤔
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Mar 7, 2020 1:35 AM
Daniel
Daniel

“The author of the article has not said anything that departs from the official version of the timeline of the events surrounding the Skripals’ disappearance and the mysterious government and police treatment of their house.”

But that’s not true though, is it Jem? Literally every single paragraph is full of insinuations. Were you reading something else?

“Then you have the hide to whine when people see through your attempts to twist facts and derail the discussion.”

Okay, so having an opposing viewpoint, based on scientific fact, is “twisting” facts and “derailing” the discussion? It’s a funny sort of discussion that’s comprised of people just agreeing with each other, and ignoring the facts 🤦🏻‍♂️

– Did the article mock the official narrative for both having CCTV footage and *not* having footage of the suspects? Yes

– Did it mock the official narrative for people not dying after contact with the substance, and then acknowledge that someone (called Dawn – thanks!) actually did die? Yes

– Did it try to undermine the possibility of it being the drug in question based on dubious assumptions about its potency? Yes

– Did it falsely claim that the Novichoks were uncharacterized, and that it’s not possible to identify a compound without a sample? Yes

So, what exactly are you chumps giving me grief for? 🤔

Oh, because I’ve got a scientific education and I’m not dumb enough to fall for blatant Russian disinformation. Well done, guys! 👍🏻
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Mar 7, 2020 1:55 AM
Tony
Tony

Daniel, repeating your lies after they have been completely debunked is as dumb as it gets. I really, really hope that you are just a lone moron, because the alternative is that the security services are scraping the barrel.
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Mar 7, 2020 7:56 AM
Emily Durron
Emily Durron

“and ignoring the facts”

What facts? What actual real-life facts are there? And don’t try to fly off down some rabbit hole about what Novichok is or Novichoks are (your preferred formula is plural to blur the issue). It is irrelevant what Novichok is.

If there are any facts, they are that none of the alleged subjects of the case ever showed indications of nerve agent poisoning, as was confirmed in a letter to the Times by the senior consultant working on the case at the hospital. That is a fact that you cannot wriggle away from.

Stephen Davies of Salisbury NHS Foundation Trust wrote an open letter to The Times, published on 16 March 2018, clarifying that contrary to reports, no nerve agent was involved: “Sir, Further to your report (“Poison exposure leaves almost 40 needing treatment”, 14 March), may I clarify that no patients have experienced symptoms of nerve agent poisoning in Salisbury and there have only ever been three patients with significant poisoning”.

But you, at your keyboard, know better than that, eh? Because you just know.
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Mar 7, 2020 9:02 PM
michaelk
michaelk

Poor Dawn Sturgess. Whatever happened to the inquest into the perculiar and vague circumstances around her death? The inquest seems to have disappeared.

It seems clear that the UK media has been ‘briefed’ by the Security Services about the ‘truth’ relating to the Skripal Affair and the editors have understood that for reasons of ‘national security’, asking too many questions wouldn’t be… ‘appropriate’ at this stage.

The BBC seems to employ something I call the ‘fifty year rule.’ One has to wait 50 years to tell the true story about certain events.

Like I was surprised to hear a recent docu about Northern Ireland in 1969 where they mentioned in passing that the British Army had issued the Royal Ulster Constabulary with heavy-duty, Browning machine-guns, which they fitted to Landrovers and began firing them in Catholic streets! These weapons were so powerful they could literally shoot through the front-doors of the average terrace house, pass through the front room, the kitchen and then out the back door. Pity about the people who got in the way of the bullets! At the time I’m sure the BBC and Guardian didn’t report any of this.
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Mar 6, 2020 8:56 AM
lundiel
lundiel

There are many instances of the 50-year rule being stretched indefinitely. A lot of royal correspondence and security assessments will never see the light of day….or get accidentally shredded or lost. So imagine what will happen to all the conniving and lies since the second world war. It will mean a completely false history is recorded.
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Mar 6, 2020 1:07 PM
paul
paul

The British state was running El Salvador style death squads over there for the best part of 3 decades. A lot of the bombings and shootings were false flags. All sorts of skulduggery.
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Mar 6, 2020 1:11 PM
lundiel
lundiel

Just been reading MOA on the Skripal case. It turns out that there is no evidence of the existence of an arrest warrant for the two Russians.

He had requested information from various British authorities about the pending legal procedures around the cases. He finds that there is no evidence of any official legal investigation or court case that could bring light into the issue. This is astonishing as the British procedures seem to demand a further inquest.

Under the carpet.
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Mar 6, 2020 8:02 AM
GEOFF
GEOFF

Yes and the idiot foreign Secretary at the time was prepared to go to war with Russia if you remember !
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Mar 6, 2020 9:07 AM
Einstein
Einstein

All Foreign Secretaries are under orders. Why else would the FO be funding fanatical, barbarous mujahideen in Idlib? With public funds! Who voted for that?
And now politicians are beginning to show some independence (e.g. Priti Patel), the Swamp is getting a bit nervous.
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Mar 6, 2020 3:41 PM
Frank
Frank

Covertly funnelling (even more) cash to Israel is ‘showing independence’ against the Swamp?

Got your story a bit twisted there, ain’t ya?
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Mar 6, 2020 4:56 PM
Einstein
Einstein

Yeh, you may be right about Patel. I’ve heard conflicting stories, e.g. that the Israeli visit was set up by MI5 to discredit her because the Swamp knew she was trouble: too independent.
I’m open to persuasion either way in her case.
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Mar 6, 2020 7:06 PM
Mark
Mark

Put me down as a Russian bot, because there are plenty of other holes. Sometime before the Skripals ‘fell ill’ (but on the same day and after the ‘poisoning’ occurred) they were feeding the ducks scraps of bread in a local park. Some children wanted to help, and took pieces of bread from Sergei Skripal’s hand and fed it to the ducks. One boy even ate a piece of the bread. None of the children exhibited any symptoms.

When the Skripals entered a multi-story car park, having come direct from Chez Skripal, one of them touched the meter, to obtain a time-stamped ticket, with a bare hand. The meter was never checked for toxicity, and nobody else was reported to have been poisoned by it.

In photographs of the operation carried out by British chemical-warfare specialists to obtain samples from the deadly bench upon which the Skripals were found – so toxic, remember, that it had to be burned, thus neatly destroying the evidence – we see chemical-warfare operatives clad in full-body Hazmat suits and masks working away, while several firefighters stand just behind them in simple turnout gear, with no breathing apparatus. The media alternated between frightening the * out of the town’s residents, and reassuring them that simply washing the clothing they were wearing that day would be protection enough.

Dawn Sturgess allegedly sprayed the toxic ‘perfume’ on her face and wrists, which is how she came to affected several hours later. A nerve agent dispersed as an aerosol is the fastest-acting of the media, and she would have been incapacitated in minutes, probably not even able to leave the house.

If Russia tried on a silly story like this, the British media would die of a snark overdose; they’d be stitched up in fits of laughter, and TV comedians would make it a staple for weeks. But because this originates with HM Government – or with those who give HM Government its marching orders – we are meant to take it seriously, and internalize its ridiculousness and somehow pretend it makes perfect sense.
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Mar 6, 2020 4:30 AM
Vierotchka
Vierotchka

As I remember it, the train on which the two allegged Russian agents accused of the murder arrived in Salisbury well after the Skripals left home and were found on that bench.
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Mar 6, 2020 2:09 AM
willie
willie

I think the point that we should understand all of us by now,is that it does not matter anymore if the tale told to the public,the narrative,is genuine,truthful,plausible or just impossible.Because truth is what they force up on us to know about.We can jump high or low,in the end it’s the media that tell us what to think.One is compelled to believe.Syria,Venezuela,Donbass,Bagdad,it’s the narrative that is the truth,period.Like in 1984 it can change from one day to the next day,there is no noticing of it allowed,the truth is what they state in an instant t.

I really think we should drag those mischievers from theit offices ans studios in the street and do some thing nasty to them,that is,in case we care about society.
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Mar 5, 2020 10:00 PM
milosevic
milosevic

One is compelled to believe. Syria, Venezuela, Donbass, Bagdad, it’s the narrative that is the truth, period. Like in 1984 it can change from one day to the next day, there is no noticing of it allowed, the truth is what they state in an instant.

Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.

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Mar 5, 2020 10:14 PM
Einstein
Einstein

That’s probably why the Uncivil Service ( the ‘US’) are getting their knickers in such a twist over Priti Patel. She’s questioning ‘the narrative’! Cannot be allowed! Call the Dirty Tricks dept.
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Mar 6, 2020 3:47 PM
John Manning
John Manning

To someone like me, who has a degree in biochemistry, the British Government statements about the Skripals were full of lies from day one.

What troubles me now is that during Yulia’s one post poisoning interview she expressed a wish to return to Russia, her home. Since then she has disappeared. The last comment from the British Government was that the Skripals would be given new identities. The notion that someone, whose photo has been published in every major newspaper in the UK, can then disappear simply by a name change is another lie.

Has the British Government finally achieved its assassination of the Skripals. If not then let them speak in public again.
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Mar 5, 2020 7:23 PM
Vierotchka
Vierotchka

Plastic surgery? Sent to the USA in a witness protection program? Or simply bumped off and incinerated?
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Mar 5, 2020 7:51 PM
Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

They’re DEAD.
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Mar 5, 2020 8:59 PM
Vierotchka
Vierotchka

A bunch of articles about the Skripals from two years ago:

https://www.stalkerzone.org/tag/skripal/
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Mar 5, 2020 7:16 PM
michaelk
michaelk

I wonder how closely the coming BBC drama/doc about the Skripals and Salisbury will stick to the offical narrative outlined above? I suppose it’s possible they’ll turn it all into a black, grotesque, satire that lampoons the whole thing? Possible perhaps, but highly unlikely. Still, as the state’s version is full of holes, absurd and literally incredible; it’ll be… ‘interesting.’
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Mar 5, 2020 6:50 PM
Ken Kenn
Ken Kenn

With the Novichok on the outer door handle theory what they all have to explain is:

There are two doors at chez Skripal.

One is the outer Upvc door ( a storm porch door ) and the door that opens into the actual house.

That’s two handles – the outside storm porch handle allegedly contaminated and if the Skripals did return to the house the alleged Novichok would not just be on the outer handle it would be on the inner handle (closing the door from inside the porch ) – on the outer handle of the actual front door or the yale lock into the house and the inside handle of the inner door – the one inside the actual house.

It gets even more bizarre if the Skripal’s never returned at midday or sometime in the afternoon.

The Russian asssassins were beautifully filmed in HD

Yet no-one has ever seen any beautful scenes of the Skripal’s feeding ducks or on the bench being nearly unconscious.

Perhaps Salisbury’s very own Cecil B- Demille was on a day off on a Sunday?

The Militart weren’t it appears.
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Mar 5, 2020 10:33 PM
Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar

Is not the point that it was dominating the media for a few weeks?

Now the media is just fairy stories for grown ups, what does it matter whether it has any truthfulness or not?

After all, the aim was some Russia bashing, Vladimir Putin bashing and smearing Donald Trump by association (he apparently quite gets on with President Putin when not told to abhor him by Deep State Intelligence operatives too close to the Presidential circles of influence for comfort).

We killed a couple of junkies, we claimed to have poisoned one police officer (who recovered), so what?

I mean: in a state which sees human rights as only relevant to the rich and powerful, what is there to complain about?

We are not some nation providing moral examples, after all. Oh no: we are the gang members saying: ‘Yeah, right on!’ every time our gang leader puts it about with the other lot.
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Mar 5, 2020 6:31 PM
Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

The Tories killed 200,000 with ‘austerity’, so two Russkies ain’t much trouble at all.
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Mar 5, 2020 9:01 PM
milosevic
milosevic

Now the media is just fairy stories for grown ups, what does it matter whether it has any truthfulness or not?

— that’s a good way of putting it.

“Only the disciplined mind can see reality, Winston. You believe that reality is something objective, external, existing in its own right. You also believe that the nature of reality is self-evident. When you delude yourself into thinking that you see something, you assume that everyone else sees the same thing as you. But I tell you, Winston, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. That is the fact that you have got to relearn, Winston. It needs an act of self-destruction, an effort of the will. You must humble yourself before you can become sane.”

https://orwell.ru/library/novels/1984/english/en_p_3

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Mar 5, 2020 11:08 PM
Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz

You’ve got to hand it to the “creative writing departments” of our Western intelligence services. The Skripnal saga story-line is right up there with the classic American narratives positing the existence of a “magic bullet,” and the contention that massive steel and concrete buildings can simply pulverize into a fine dust in mid-air – “because we say so.”

Perhaps we the masses could finally manage to warrant the attention of our clueless oligarchic betters and their professional intelligence services – “narrative managers” – if someone considerably more tech savvy than myself could simply design and widely disseminate plans for a – “3-D printable guillotine?” Just a thought. Ok, ok, I guess it’s really more of a “fantasy.”
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Mar 5, 2020 4:06 PM
paul
paul

That is the way things work now.
Corbyn is an anti semitic communist terrorist – because we say so.
Assad gasses his own people – because we say so.
Putin is a corrupt dictator – because we say so.
Trump/ Sanders/ Tulsi Gabbard/ Julian Assange/ Wikileaks/ anyone who disagrees with us or challenges our narrative in any way, are Kremlin agents and Russian bots – because we say so.
Iraq/ Iran/ whoever else we dislike have got illegal nuclear weapons – because we say so.
Venezuela is a communist dictatorship – because we say so.
There are no Nazis in Ukraine – because we say so.
Throat slitting jihadis are moderate rebels – because we say so.
And because out state controlled BBC says so.
And because the rest of the corporate MSM says so – so it must be right.
And Elliott Higgins, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the Atlantic Council all agree with us after we have sent them their cheques – so it must be right.

End of story. All settled. No further evidence required.
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Mar 5, 2020 5:23 PM
Vierotchka
Vierotchka

Note that Amnesty International has finally organized a petition to save Julian Assange, so it isn’t all that bad after all.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/get-involved/take-action/julian-assange-usa -justice/
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Mar 5, 2020 9:01 PM
Joe
Joe

Only because AI is being shamed to do what it was founded to do.
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Mar 5, 2020 10:15 PM
Vierotchka
Vierotchka

Better than doing nothing with regard to Julian Assange.
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Mar 5, 2020 10:44 PM
milosevic
milosevic

It is that bad. What the f*** have they been doing for the last ten years?

They’ve just now realized that enough people are concerned about the issue that continuing to ignore it may seriously impair their credibility with their target audience, so they have to be seen to be doing something, even at this extremely late date.
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Mar 6, 2020 12:14 AM
Gary Weglarz
Gary Weglarz

Both Amnesty and Human Rights Watch have shamelessly repeated American regime-change propaganda aimed at propagandizing Western populations into supporting the destabilization or invasion of multiple Middle Eastern nations. They are intimately complicit in massive numbers of deaths and the creation of millions of refugees, as well as the complete destruction and disintegration of Libya. They are not appreciably more ethical or accurate in their coverage of American imperialism in Latin America. Both have become over time simply extensions of corrupt Western imperial power – based on any objective and ethical analysis of their actual behavior. Yes they are “that” bad.
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Mar 6, 2020 2:15 AM
Antonym
Antonym

More accurate: they got addicted to copious Wahhabi funding, which goes also beyond the ME. Partner CIA is also into the plot.
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Mar 6, 2020 4:57 AM
milosevic
milosevic

It’s vastly more likely that they got addicted to copious zionist funding, as evidenced by the nature of the wars and regime change operations that they choose to shill for.

how’s your hasbara internship going? does it pay well?

https://hasbarafellowships.org/brochure
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Mar 6, 2020 6:19 AM
paul
paul

Nope, all the shekels and all the fat cheques came from Israel’s butt goys in Washington.
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Mar 6, 2020 1:20 PM
Richard Le Sarc
Richard Le Sarc

Amnesty were fully taken over when the US State Department droog, Suzanne Nossell took over, some years ago. HRW has ALWAYS been a Zionist front.
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Mar 6, 2020 9:53 PM
milosevic
milosevic

— because we say so.

The truly astonishing thing is how well it works, at least on the functionaries of the Outer Party. Try arguing about the 9/11 event, Skripals, White Helmets, “ISIS”, any of it, with some middle-class liberal goodthinker. You can actually see the doublethink gears grinding away inside their heads. If you persist, sometimes they collapse into outright hysteria.

This is perhaps a worthwhile exercise, in that permanently destroying such people’s facade of rationality and intellectual competence, tends to weaken the elite consensus that sustains all the others.

Maybe they should have worn a tinfoil hat, like they’re always recommending to their social inferiors. a**holes.
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Mar 6, 2020 12:30 AM
Hugh O’Neill
Hugh O’Neill

Unable to sleep for thinking about the Skripal case (due mainly to Emily Durron’s insightful comments) I have to add my not quite tuppence worth. I have never been a fan of crime/spy fiction and detest James Bond movies on so many levels. One level of my dislike is due to my inability to believe in the combination of ruthless killer, competence, intelligence, duty, courage etc. it’s all a James Fleming wet dream, and I suspect that the majority of so called intelligence agents are better represented by the Johnny English character but even he has some redeeming features, unlike them. Once you combine their colossal incompetence with their inability to tell the truth and put them all into one club which represents for them the only group deserving their loyalty, to whom petty matters like law, truth, justice apply only to those lesser mortals outside the Club. The police are not inside the club but must obey. Now add to that toxic stew the trend to create businesses and security consultancies, just as retired army generals, then you will get unofficial ops, but whose agents still have access to friends inside with access to the levers of power I.e. control of the MSM and the D Notice, then it is possible to see a linkage between the Steele Dossier, Pablo Miller, DNC, HRC, WikiLeaks, the murder of Seth Rich etc.

As Emily Durrow has suggested, the Novichok script was not a propaganda seeding op, but proves that the Skripal operation was a complete botched job and a hasty attempt was made to apply it in retrospect. The D Notice was to stop any awkward questions. The police had to be stopped too because even Clouseau would have seen through the nonsense after talking to the RSPB about the ducks….

I have asked before about the identity of the chap whose reflection in the mirror taking the photo of the Skripals, but cannot now recall the answer. Suffice to say that IF indeed Skripal had been the source of the fake intel in the Steele dossier and then been allowed back home to Russia, then the FSB would have access to some gems that would have destroyed the operation to destroy Trump, hurting the DNC, FBI, CIA, MI6. HMG is in thrall to the last 2 mentioned, as is our MSM. Julian Assange is collateral damage, as was Seth Rich, as were the Skripals. Dawn Sturgess may not be connected, but her misfortune has been weaved into the false narrative. As Sir Walter Scott wrote: Oh what a complex web we weave when first we try to deceive” (It’s 5am. The quote may be wrong)
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Mar 5, 2020 4:06 PM
lundiel
lundiel

The modern spy is likely to be someone more like James Le Mesurier than Johnny English. Businessmen, charity workers and NGOs are their natural homes, their background is military intelligence. These days you don’t sneak into a military base to steal secrets, you use technology, bribes and blackmail. Behind the scenes the most important assets are academic researchers in places like Oxford and Cambridge university who work very closely with American post-grad academics studying here, along with journalists, and of course recruiters. This is where the real work of shaping opinion is done.
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Mar 5, 2020 4:49 PM
EarlofSuave
EarlofSuave

To me, Steele is basically an unlikable real life version of James Wormold, MI6’s man in Havana.
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Mar 5, 2020 5:24 PM
Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood

Poor Gareth Williams couldn’t even make his way out of a paper bag….. sorry sports bag.
(according to a pay walled Torygraph story) that might have been the Ruskies as well…)
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Mar 6, 2020 6:57 PM
Ken Kenn
Ken Kenn

If you look at Yulias’ face in that restaurant shot it is rounder and she is fair bit heavier than
the copper haired slim young woman who was observed at the Russian airport.

That means to me that this photo was taken quite a while before Yulia arrived in March.

There were plenty of CCTV cameras in Salisbury Town centre to catch anyone up to no good but no Crimewatch style appeal was issued on the BBC.

Why?

Because there may have been people who are paid to get up to no good and I don’t think they were just Russians.

The visit routine doesn’t wash – they were there to meet someone or some people.

For all we know those people could have been internal state actors – hence no CCTV exposure to the public.

The lovely CCTV shots (they are the only decent CCTV shots we’ve seen ) of the Russian pair were as if they knew they were coming and where they were going.

I will re-iterate re: the door handle.

If a poison was found on only the outer handle of the outer storm porch door – the Skripal’s left and never went back into the house.

This means that the applicators must have done the dirty doorhandle deed whilst the Skripal’s were in the house.

It would be no use doing that after they left unless they knew the Skripal’s would be coming back.
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Mar 6, 2020 11:29 PM
Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill

I don’t know the photo of “the copper haired slim young woman who was observed at the Russian airport”. But that description fits likewise to the Yulia who was in the scripted TV footage “I vont to be alone” with the visible tracheotomy scar. So there idoes appear to be a mismatch of photos, or from the wrong ends of the narrative.
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Mar 7, 2020 2:13 AM
michaelk
michaelk

As the BBC is producing one of their infamous drama-documentaries about the strange events in Salisbury, it’ll be interesting to see how the rest of the BBC and the media cover the programme, without wondering about where the Skripal’s are today and why they haven’t contacted their friends and family back in Russia.

It the Skripals were still ‘valuable’ to the UK Security Services and could be used as live propaganda against Russia, basically supporting the UK’s narrative about events in Salisbury; I’m convinced that they would have been produced and interviewed by one of those nice journalists from the BBC, or even the much nicer… Luke Harding from the Guardian. After all Harding’s whip smart and a trusted expert on all things Russian, he even doesn’t speak the language so he’d be the ideal interviewer.

That they haven’t been brought out to speak and smear their own country and have literally vanished, indicates that Sergie Skripal isn’t prepared to give the right kind of interview, or maybe his ‘price’ is too high?

It’s odd really, how little interest there is in the media about the Skripals and their strange fate. Journalists seem afraid to ask the correct and blindingly obvious questions for fear of being labeled as ‘upatriotic’ or, worst of all, being sypathetic to Russian fake news!
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Mar 5, 2020 3:18 PM
Shardlake
Shardlake

I ask myself why the BBC is doing this (producing a programme about the Skripal saga) thereby inviting adverse comments from websites such as this one. Anyone with a grain of intellect doesn’t believe a word of what the BBC and MSM put out, so it has me thinking there might at some time in the not too distant future, be some further denigration of the Russian state or some such expedient issue and this envisaged programme will be proffered as ‘evidence’ to substantiate the government narrative.
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Mar 6, 2020 10:05 AM
Harry Stotle
Harry Stotle

Is it true Guardian moderators earned more in overtime deleting comments that challenged the ‘official’ Skripal narrative than police officers who spent 7 years patrolling the Ecuadorian embassy?

Brilliant summary by the way – could never imagine anyone in the MSM setting out the chain of events in such lucid and compelling terms.

In fact haven’t we reached a stage where the MSM is the least credible source whenever controversial events like this arise – for example remember the arse Monbiot made of himself shooting his load all over the chemical weapons attack in Syria.
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Mar 5, 2020 2:48 PM
Rich
Rich

I only read the Graun and the Indy if I want to start the day in a foul mood.
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Mar 5, 2020 6:27 PM
tunde
tunde

Monty Python hilarity all round. Perhaps Sergi’s absence from public view can be because he locked himself up in a zip up holdall, in a bath, last summer ? The dresses in the house were for Julia.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dress rehearsal: British police prepared for the attack on Sergei and Yulia Skripal, four days in advance
https://www.sott.net/article/433567-Dress-rehearsal-British-police-pre pared-for-the-attack-on-Sergei-and-Yulia-Skripal-four-days-in-advance
John Helmer Dances With Bears Tue, 28 Apr 2020 16:30 UTC
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© Wiltshire Police

Armed British police, plus ambulance and medical crews, drone and helicopter pilots, firefighters, and the head doctor of the Salisbury District Hospital's emergency department were preparing for the attack on Sergei and Yulia Skripal just four days before Russian military assassins arrived from Moscow allegedly carrying a lethal chemical weapon in a perfume bottle.

Not counting the Skripals and the Russians, the British forces numbered at least two hundred. They were mobilized through the afternoon and night of February 27 until the morning of February 28, in the centre of Swindon, Wiltshire; that is a city 70 kilometres (40 miles) north of Salisbury, also in Wiltshire. The Skripals collapsed at 4:15 in the afternoon of March 4, in the centre of Salisbury. At least two of the paramedics who arrived at the scene to evacuate them to hospital had been practising in the Swindon operation.

"There is no intelligence that Swindon is at risk," a senior police officer had warned, "but I hope members of the public understand we need to be ready and prepared for any eventuality. This is Wiltshire Police getting ourselves - along with our colleagues in the fire and ambulance services - in the best position so we're ready for anything."

Until the Skripals are released by the British authorities and permitted to speak freely to their family, their lawyers, and the press, it is not known whether they too were warned in advance to be "ready for anything."

The British Government narrative of what happened to the Skripals is that they were taken by surprise and poisoned by a Russian-made nerve agent which British government and military officials call Novichok. Two Russians have been identified by name and charged with attempted murder and other crimes, including what then-Prime Minister Theresa May said on March 12, 2018, was "an unlawful use of force by the Russian State against the United Kingdom".

Swindon practice makes Salisbury perfect

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Left to right: Police cordon around the Swindon city centre, February 28, 2018; source; two alleged Russian assassins walk down a Salisbury street, March 4, 2018; Prime Minister Theresa May accuses Russia of chemical warfare against the UK, House of Commons, March 12, 2018.
salisbury swindon exercise police skripalsAnnouncing the criminal charges, May said on September 5, 2018: "only Russia had the technical means, operational experience and motive to carry out the attack...We were right to say in March that the Russian State was responsible. And now we have identified the individuals involved, we can go even further...this was not a rogue operation. It was almost certainly also approved outside the GRU at a senior level of the Russian state...this chemical weapons attack on our soil was part of a wider pattern of Russian behaviour that persistently seeks to undermine our security and that of our allies around the world."

Over the two years which have followed, the proof of what didn't happen has accumulated, along with evidence of fabrication, concealment, and contradiction in the official versions of the story. In parallel, the Skripals have been held incommunicado, cut off from their family and from the protection of the British courts. For the full story, read Skripal in Prison.

Disclosure of the Swindon operation on February 27-28 was published locally at the time by the Wiltshire Police in a series of tweets. The police press release to which the tweets refer has disappeared.
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This tweet was removed from the Wiltshire Police Twitter feed, along with the press release on their website about the exercise.
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A local internet publication, Swindon24, reported the operation's
"scenario saw a firearms incident develop at the Brunel Shopping Centre with police and other blue light services responding to defuse the threat. Ambulance and fire and rescue services responded to deal with casualties from the incident. Around 200 role players took part in the exercise...Details of the exercise were not shared publicly to allow partner agencies to respond spontaneously as they would in a real incident. The area was tightly controlled and the public were not involved... Superintendent Dave Minty said: 'Routine exercises like this are important as they enable us to test out our ability to deal with large scale incidents. I would like to thank The Brunel Shopping Centre and the local community for their support. The exercise was not based on any threat or intelligence. Although it is unlikely that an incident like this would occur, recent national and international events have once again highlighted the importance of public organisations testing their emergency response procedures to assure the safety of the communities we serve.""
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The town newspaper, Swindon Advertiser, reported "Wiltshire Police are remaining tight-lipped as to the nature of the 'incident' - which police warned 'could be noisy'". Matching the dates of these media reports with social media at the same time has revealed that senior paramedics from the regional ambulance service Hazardous Area Response Team, as well as air ambulance officers, were identified in the Swindon operation. They then reappeared in Salisbury and have been identified among those involved in the evacuation of the Skripals to Salisbury District Hospital.

The chief doctor at the emergency department of the hospital to which the Skripals were taken is Rachel Oaten. She is a prolific tweeter, describing her work with the Wiltshire Police, the air and ground ambulance crews, and as a qualified pilot of police drones. Oaten was not on duty at Salisbury's Emergency Department when Sergei and Yulia Skripal were delivered, separately, by ambulance about an hour after their collapse in the town centre. At the time, and for the rest of the evening of March 4, Oaten tweeted that she was assisting a Wiltshire police inspector with "medical advice/support".

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Dr Rachel Oaten (left) was not on duty at the Salisbury Hospital Emergency Department when the Skripals were admitted, and from her tweets during that evening (right), she was not aware of their case at the time at all. Oaten says she was assisting Inspector Gill Hughes; the latter is posted to Warminster, 20 miles west of Salisbury; before joining the Wiltshire police Hughes was in the military police.

Oaten is also listed as a director of a small private company providing medical services called Acos Medical Ltd.

One of Oaten's colleagues, Dr Stephen Davies, is a consultant at the Emergency Department, but like Oaten, he was not on duty when the Skripals were admitted. He was told the next day by colleagues what had been happening in his department before the Skripals were transferred to the Intensive Care Unit of Radnor Ward, one floor above.

Their swift transfer was required, Davies explained this week, "because they required sedation and ventilation, along with other treatments."

Davies was reported here to have been one of the early witnesses of the Skripals in hospital. Davies has now corrected this record, amplifying what the circumstances were, when he learned them, and from whom. In a lengthy email following his absence from the hospital for the past fortnight, Davies explained:
"my letter to The Times has been the cause of much comment and several conspiracy theories. My original letter was longer and clearer but was shortened by the letters editor for publication. Much of it pertains to the difference between testing and treatment, which are of course entirely different."

'Treatment', False - The Times; 'Testing', True - Stephen Davies

article skripal admission emergency retraction letterDavies confirms that three patients were tested, diagnosed and treated at the hospital for poisoning. But Davies now acknowledges he was not himself a direct witness, nor did he see them before they were transferred from Emergency to Intensive Care.
"I was not on duty the day the Skripals came in but the events regarding their admission were related by my colleagues the next day. I believe they were identified at the time of their attendance by documentation carried on their persons."
Davies was on duty, he now confirms, at the Emergency Department the following Tuesday, March 6, when Wiltshire police officer, Detective Sergeant Nicholas Bailey, was admitted.
"I did see Mr Bailey myself when he attended with symptoms and he was able to confirm his own identity...Nick Bailey never required ventilation but it was easier for many reasons to have all three patients in one area, so he ended up in ICU as well."

"The point of my letter was to refute the newspaper statement that many 'members of the public had attended hospital for treatment' which was not true. Members of the public had attended for testing and all had been found to have no signs of poisoning. No treatment was ever required or given to anyone other than the original three."

The three, Davies has reconfirmed, were the Skripals and Bailey.

Bailey's subsequent testimony to what he witnessed in the Intensive Care Unit indicates that police were posted as if the Skripals were under arrest and to keep them in the ward, not to protect them from possible attack from outside; read more.

According to Davies this week,
"there was great concern that 'members of the public' (i.e. not the intended victims) were somehow being exposed to a residual or persisting source of poisoning in and around Salisbury and my intention was to allay fears in this group as far as I could, hence my choice of words... In practice, I could have said that, other than those three, no one at all required treatment, public, professional or otherwise."
What exactly did Oaten, Davies and their colleagues test for? The answer is given by a leading British organophosphate chemist.
"In March 2018, the 'hot topic' was Fentanyl. Heroin dealers had been adding Fentanyl and some of its analogues to make their drugs more potent. Carfentanil was especially dangerous, and in the US first responders were dying due to inhalation of powders as they performed first aid to the collapsed users. This led to Naloxone as an injectable, and more personal protective equipment being deployed. Ambulance crews, paramedics, emergency department admissions personnel were all very well briefed on the dangers, and there had been many drills to ensure that their own safety was the priority. Two people of different ages, well dressed, are observed by members of the public; then more 'medically' qualified people approach (the Army Chief Nurse [Colonel Alison McCourt] and her daughter), then the real paramedics arrive. With the victims prone, comatose, breathing irregularly, foaming at the mouth, etc., to the trained and untrained eye this would have all the first appearances of drug toxicity. Especially as the two victims were displaying the same symptoms. At the scene, pulse, pupils, airways, physical injury, e.g. head trauma, bleeding signs, etc., would all be quickly determined. None of the above observations would cause any trained medic to consider that this was not drug poisoning, and of course, although many drugs could initiate these symptoms, Fentanyl was the topic in the news."

"As we now know, the two victims were admitted via the Emergency Department, and later admitted to the [ICU] ward. It was reported that on the Sunday afternoon around 5pm, two off-duty biochemists were at the hospital, and had just finished their Toxic Dagger exercise and training debriefing. [For details of this Army chemical warfare exercise which was held in the Salisbury area during first three weeks of February 2018, concluding on February 19, read this.] It is not known to me when the two biochemists first observed the two victims, but apparently they 'immediately' recognised the symptoms as 'nerve agent' poisoning, or possibly organophosphate poisoning from insecticide or herbicide ingestion. This observation, possibly in conjunction with the fact that by now Naloxone was having no effect, may then have persuaded the clinicians to attempt another treatment path. In the United Kingdom Accreditation Service, then and now, Salisbury District Hospital [SDH] is not accredited to perform a test for Acetylcholine Esterase. SDH's proximity to Public Health England at Porton Down and DSTL Porton Down would however make it possible for blood samples to be sent to either or both of these facilities in order for the depressed ACE levels to be determined and a new diagnosis made. This new diagnosis was of course vital. Until then the two victims were simply stabilised and ventilated. There was no treatment taking place. By some time on Sunday evening, the ACE levels were known, and possibly as early as that Duodote or similar was administered. Atropine-based antidotes would be vital to keep the victims from drowning by having fluid in the lungs."
According to this expert source, it is likely the initial blood samples from the two Skripals were sent from the hospital to the rare and imported pathogens laboratory (RIPL) at Porton Down, a civil public health facility, not the Ministry of Defence laboratory (DSTL), which share the same address.

It is also unclear why civilian or military medical personnel involved in the Toxic Dagger exercise were at Salisbury Hospital on March 4, two weeks after the exercise itself had ended on February 19 and its simulated medical clearing stations dismantled. Salisbury Hospital's Emergency Department had practised how to handle casualties from a chemical poisoning incident, but that was four months earlier, on September 14, 2017.
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Left: Salisbury Hospital Emergency Department staff in their chemical warfare exercise, September 14, 2017. Right: Royal Marine and DSTL personnel describe the Toxic Dagger exercise and its medical elements.
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Oaten does not mention in her twitter stream that she participated. The Salisbury Hospital appears not to have been involved in the second exercise.

"Regarding other patients arriving at the hospital for testing," the organophosphate chemist continues, "on the basis that SDH could not test for ACE, any and all 'contaminated' people would be required to give a blood sample, and that sample sent away for testing. Some seemed to be symptomatic (headaches, slight nausea, etc.) and there seems no reason for their blood not to have been analysed. If normal 'within expected range' ACE levels were found, then these people would be passed fit. SDH would have seen the more 'emergency savvy' patients, who may have had the symptoms. Dr Davies and his team would simply be blood samplers in this exercise. Blood samples sent off with brief patient notes regarding vital signs, symptoms, etc. ACE levels would then come back within the expected range — job done, patients passed fit and healthy."
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Martin Cook , a specialist in anaesthesiology consulted on the Skripal case.
At Salisbury Hospital, the Radnor Ward Intensive Care Unit lists several consultants: Duncan Murray is the lead; Stephen Jukes is one of the consultants, as is Martin Cook , a specialist in anaesthesiology. Murray and Jukes have spoken at length with Mark Urban of the BBC and the Secret Intelligence Service. They refuse to answer follow-up questions.

Since the Skripal incident, Cook has given public speeches about what happened.

When asked this week to confirm whether he was on duty at the ICU when the Skripals were first admitted, or later when Bailey joined them, Cook did not reply. He also did not say whether he gave witness testimony about the medical condition of the three, which was recorded at the London court hearing on March 20-21, 2018.

Oaten has also given talks to police and medical organisations on the Skripal case.
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© Rachel Oaten/Twitter; Royal College Emergency Medicine
Oaten records being invited to participate in a Ministry of Defence training seminar on chemical warfare between July 1 and 6, 2018. Note these dates, as they overlap the hospitalisation at Salisbury of Dawn Sturgess, who was later diagnosed as having been poisoned by Novichok in a perfume bottle. Sturgess was admitted on June 30; she died in the Radnor Ward on July 8; a coroner's report confirms the particulars. For reports on the case of Sturgess and her companion Charles Rowley, read this.

According to Prime Minister May's statement to parliament in September 2018, "the same two [Russian] men are now also the prime suspects in the case of Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley too. There is no other line of inquiry beyond this. And the police have today formally linked the attack on the Skripals and the events in Amesbury - such that it now forms one investigation."

In her social media records at the time, Oaten did not identify the Sturgess case with the Skripal case or link the treatment, as the prime minister claimed later. Only one case of "nerve agent attack", the Skripal case, was mentioned in this tweet by Oaten on July 2, 2018:
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© Rachel Oaten/Twitter
Oaten published several tweets during her week at the training course for chemical biological radiological and nuclear warfare (CBRN).

This week Oaten was asked if she was on duty at the Emergency Department to treat Sturgess on June 30. Oaten has not answered. According to her Twitter stream, she was on holiday in Wales.

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Gorilla Radio with Chris Cook, John Helmer May 25, 2020
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Welcome to Gorilla Radio’s continuing efforts, NOT broadcast live from CFUV Radio in the basement of the Student Union Building at the University of Victoria, but emanating live-to-tape via Skype from our home-based … studios on this date, May 25th, 2020.

If I’m to follow to its logical conclusion the advice of the World Health Organization and, (quote) “limit [my] worry and agitation by lessening the time I spend watching or listening to media coverage I perceive as upsetting…” I’d be forced to in good conscience close shop too, putting an end to twenty-one years of Gorilla Radio’s dedication to (quote) “increasing agitation by presenting media designed to be upsetting”. And that I refuse to do; allowing the virus victory is not an option on my watch, as the grating saying goes.

So in this I take departure of the WHO, thank you. And, it appears I’m not alone in finding fault with they and their medical minions: The United States of America too is out of sorts with the UN agency, as is its ally, Australia the two leading a chorus of boos for the WHO’s failure to affix “proper” blame in the aftermath of the Covid-19 outbreak. All proving that, even in a World where everything is changed, some songs remain the same.

John Helmer’s a journalist, author, broadcaster, former political advisor to governments, and principal behind the news website, Dances with Bears. He’s also one of the most widely read Russia specialists in the business world for his news-breaking stories on Russian base and precious metals, diamonds, mining, shipping, insurance, food trade, and business policy. Helmer’s book titles include: ‘The Deadly Simple Mechanics of Society’, ‘The Jackal’s Wedding – American Power, Arab Revolt’, (co-authored with Claudia Wright), the political memoir, ‘The Man Who Knows Too Much About Russia’, and his latest, the two-plus year chronicle of the bizarre and completely unprecedented case of a Russian father and daughter disappeared by the British state for “their own protection”, ‘Skripal in Prison’. His recent article, ‘SKRIPAL SHOWDOWN, NOVICHOK PAYDAY — LONDON LAWYER THREAT TO CALL SERGEI AND YULIA SKRIPAL TO TESTIFY IN OPEN COURT FOR THE FIRST TIME’ continues presenting the upsetting facts behind the official Skripal fiction.

John Helmer and no men being islands in the Covid-19 stream in the second half.

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5 Facts BBC’s “The Salisbury Poisonings” Forgot to Mention
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The BBC’s new drama “The Salisbury Poisonings” concluded over the weekend. A three-part story “based on actual events”, claiming to tell the story of the alleged poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in Salisbury in 2018.

It’s exactly what you’d expect. Schlocky tat. Poorly researched, badly written and woefully factually inaccurate.

The Guardian gave it four stars. Because of course they did. Because when you’re dealing with government-backed narrative everything that reinforces it must be described as having value. It’s one of the hallmarks of propaganda, that no story which supports the propaganda – however ridiculous – can ever be questioned, criticised or disputed.

There’s room for an in-depth review, and indeed Craig Murray has done a fine job deconstructing the series. But here, I just want to focus on everything they don’t tell you.

Here are five key facts the BBC simply forgot to mention.

1. ALISON MCCOURT
Alison McCourt and her family were walking in Salisbury town centre when they came upon the Skripals convulsing quietly on a park bench in the early afternoon. They were, supposedly, the first people to discover the pair, and Alison and her family stopped to provide aid. Her daughter Abigail was given a special award.

There’s no reason for the BBC to omit this information.

Except that Alison’s full name is Colonel Alison McCourt OBE. And she’s the Chief Nursing Officer of the British Army.

Maybe the BBC thought that the Chief Nurse of the British Army strolling past during the (alleged) first-ever use of a “military-grade” nerve agent was just too unlikely to be believed. Which is fair.

Craig Murray, with his usual dry humour, likens it having James Dyson knock on your door asking for directions just as your vacuum cleaner breaks down. But it’s actually quite a lot less likely even than that. After all, Dyson vacuum cleaners do exist, and lots of people do own them, but – until March 2018 – “novichok” was entirely hypothetical.

Novichok didn’t officially exist in the real world at all, until it popped up just yards away from one of the few people trained to deal with it.

Weird the BBC wouldn’t mention it. But it gets weirder.

2. TOXIC DAGGER
Toxic Dagger was a military training exercise involving the Defence Science Technology Laboratory (DSTL) and 40 Marine Commando Brigade. It trains special forces on how to deal with chemical, biological or neurological weapons.

Toxic Dagger ran from February 20th – March 12th 2018.

Sergei Skripal was “poisoned” on March 4th 2018.

The DSTL headquarters is in Salisbury.

That Russia should attempt to use a neurological agent to assassinate a former double agent right smack dab in the middle of a neurological weapons training exercise is unlikely. That it should also happen in the same city where the exercise is taking place apparently proved too much for the BBC to handle.

Best to just ignore it.

3. PABLO MILLER
Pablo Miller is a former soldier in the Royal Tank Regiment, a diplomat with an OBE, and possibly current MI6 agent. He lives in Salisbury and was Sergei Skripal’s handler.

Miller’s name was first mentioned in a report for the Telegraph in the days following the Skripal’s alleged poisoning, from which Miller’s name has now been totally removed.

It was later revealed by a Channel 4 reporter on twitter, that the government had issued a D-notice on “Sergei Skripal’s MI6 handler”:


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[For our international readers, a “D-notice”, is an act by which the government directs the media to not mention certain facts which they claim might somehow endanger national security. It is not censorship, they’re quite clear about that.]

Sergei Skripal’s MI6 handler being his next-door neighbour, and the subject of government gag, orders didn’t make it into the BBC’s drama either.

And neither did…

4. MARK URBAN
Which is weird, because Mark Urban is a BBC employee. He is their diplomatic editor, and personally fronted much of the coverage of the Skripal case when it was breaking news. As Craig Murray points out, despite the series’ regular use of real news footage, and despite it being a BBC production, Mark Urban is never seen once.

He’s not even listed as a consultant despite literally writing the book on the case.

What’s doubly strange about this, of course, is that Mark Urban was in the same Royal Tank Regiment as Pablo Miller. In fact, they joined on the same day, from the same officer training course.


He revealed, months after the event, he had regularly been interviewing Sergei Skripal in the months and weeks before his alleged poisoning. He claimed it was “for a book”.

The book in question was released in October 2018 under the title “The Skripal Files: The Life and Near Death of a Russian Spy”. (The Guardian gave that a good review too).

What he would have called it, and indeed what it would have been about, had the poisoning not happened we’ll just have to guess. It would likely have been very dull, and not sold all that well.

5. SERGEI SKRIPAL (LIKELY) STILL WORKED FOR MI6
All the talk about Sergei Skripal has been he was a quiet retiree, living out his later years in sleepy Salisbury. Of course, that narrative is somewhat challenged by the facts his MI6 handler is his next-door neighbour, and he’s just a handful of miles from the UK’s military research laboratories.

Mark Urban’s book gives us even more interesting details – such as the fact Skripal’s house was purchased for him by MI6, and he had a special phone he used to contact his “team” at UK intelligence.

All of this paints a picture of a man still very much employed, or least kept on the back burner, by British Intelligence.

The Blogmire has an excellent article breaking all this down, including asking the most pertinent of questions:

How conceivable is it that the house purchase by MI6, for one of their double agents, did not have some kind of security measures in place, including CCTV cameras?

Shouldn’t there be CCTV footage of the alleged assassins walking right up to the door and spraying/spreading/smearing the nerve agent on the door handle?

Of course, the BBC don’t ask this question. They don’t mention any of this at all, despite it all being in a book written by their own diplomatic editor.

Clearly, the makers of the program were given a brief: Take all these harsh angular facts, and force them together into some kind of coherence. Obfuscate where you can, invent when you must.

Their job is to spread a digestible story.

As such, they leave out everything that could implicate the British state, or anything which challenges the story on even the most basic rational level.

They don’t explain how the most toxic substance in the world only affected 5 people in four months, despite contaminating a hotel room, a restaurant, a pub and at least two trains. They don’t explain why, even after one of their officers was taken ill, Salisbury police were guarding the Skripal’s house without any protective equipment.

They don’t mention the ties to Christopher Steele and Orbis Security, or the original reports of fentanyl overdose being redacted after the fact, or that the bottle Charlie Rowley claims to have found was wrapped in cellophane (and therefore never opened). Or any of the other myriad details which render the “official version” obvious, absolute nonsense.

We’ll never know exactly who at the BBC decided to omit all these details. But we can make a pretty good guess as to why.

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Cynicism and Warmongering 514
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The BBC plumbed the depths of hypocrisy in dressing up the final episode of the Salisbury Poisonings as a homage to Dawn Sturgess while systematically lying about the facts of her death, yet again to cover up the implausibility of the official narrative.

As I noted yesterday, the BBC drama appeared to show Charlie Rowley fishing the perfume bottle out of the charity bin at least two months ahead of when this really occurred, to make it more plausible that it had been dropped in there after the alleged attack on the Skripals. The question of how it had managed to sit in a charity bin for three months, when that bin was emptied regularly, was thus dodged.

The next alteration of a timeline by the BBC is just as crucial. The BBC had the discovery of the perfume bottle containing novichok happening before Sturgess’s death, whereas in fact the perfume bottle was not “discovered” until 11 July 2018, three days after Dawn’s death. The extraordinary thing about this is that the police had been searching Rowley’s flat intensively for “novichok” for over a week before coming across a perfume bottle sitting on the kitchen counter. As they were specifically looking for a phial of liquid, you would have thought that might have caught the eye somewhat sooner.

The final episode was more open in its attempts to provoke Russophobia than previous episodes, with images of Putin, Russia, and Boshirov and Petrov appearing. It is of course the case that the military, security service and arms manufacturing complex needs Russophobia to justify sucking away so much of our national wealth. So we should not be surprised this kind of propaganda is produced. We should also realise that those in the service of the elites that benefit from the political system will do everything they can to maintain the propaganda. It is possible to understand all of that, and still be very disappointed that so very many ordinary people fall for it. The sad fact is, propaganda works, and always has.

It is worth reminding ourselves that the Skripal incident was a propaganda initiative from day 1. The role of the Integrity Initiative and its Skripal group – in which the BBC was very much included – puts this BBC propaganda piece in its proper perspective.

I do not know what happened in Salisbury. I know that the British government story makes no sense whatsoever, and I know that the Russian government has not told us the truth about the identities of Boshirov and Petrov, otherwise their true identities would have been firmly documented and reported by now. What the Russians were doing remains a mystery, with possibilities ranging from assassination through liaison to extraction. What the British government was doing is equally murky, and whether the Skripals are willingly a part of MI6’s plans is by no means clear. Sergei’s continuing work for MI6 and his relationship with Pablo Miller are evidently key, while I suspect that Sergei’s role in Christopher Steele’s baroque, fabricated dossier on Donald Trump is probably the motive for the action.

The prosecutions of Julian Assange and Alex Salmond, and subsequently of myself, have stood in the way of my declared intention to make a documentary about the Skripal case, while the money you have so kindly contributed to my legal defence fund is almost as much as I needed to raise for the film. Attempting to counter the propaganda of the state while the state employs its legal mechanisms to drain your energy and resources is not easy. That is of course the standard lot of dissidents around the globe. It will not stop us.

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The incredible thing about this story is it started with the Skripals being STOPPED from travelling to Russia
Remember The Berlin Wall Stopping People Leaving The Soviet Union?
Only Now Its In Reverse, MI5 have become the Stasi!


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Skripal told one of his school mates in 2012 that he had made a serious mistake and wanted to go back to Russia. This would be more than enough for MI6 to revoke this idea and act. It looks like Theresa May gained European backing in her blaming Russia by handing over open borders two years after Brexit.

This means a bankrupt corporation has done a deal that will act against the nations peace and security to support a lie, aimed at the British public to form energy against Russia, and, to expand funding for chemical weaponry and a step closer to that coveted big red button called the corporate Contingency Act platform activation..


Yes, indeed: 'Former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal had written to Vladimir Putin asking if he could return to his home country before he was poisoned in Salisbury, a friend has said.':
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sergei-skripal-vladimi r-putin-nerve-agent-return-russia-pardon-a8271751.html#comments

The Kremlin denies receiving such a lettr, which would make sense as the Post Office here would have likely intercepted his letter, which would have immediately put Skripal into the 'highly expendable' class, kept in mind till HMG wished to open up a big 'False Flag' demonisation on Putin.

Here's Pilger on Skripal:
'Skripal case is a carefully-constructed drama' - John Pilger ':

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Poisoned spy Sergei Skripal asked Putin for pardon so he could return to Russia, friend claims
‘Many people shunned him. His classmates felt he had betrayed the Motherland,’ says Vladimir Timoshkov
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sergei-skripal-vladimi r-putin-nerve-agent-return-russia-pardon-a8271751.html

May Bulman @maybulman Saturday 24 March 2018 09:30

Former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal had written to Vladimir Putin asking if he could return to his home country before he was poisoned in Salisbury, a friend has said.

The former Russian intelligence officer, who came to Britain in 2010 as part of a spy swap, regretted being a double agent and wanted to be pardoned so he could visit his family in Russia, Vladimir Timoshkov told the BBC.

Mr Skripal and his daughter Yulia remain in a critical condition after they were poisoned with the nerve agent Novichok on 4 March.

The 66-year-old had been accused of working for MI6 over several years, in particular disclosing the names of several dozen Russian agents working in Europe.

He was sentenced to 13 years in a high-security prison in August 2006, before being freed in the 2010 deal which saw 10 Russian sleeper agents expelled from the United States.

According to Mr Timoshkov, his friend, who he had known since school, Mr Skripal did not see himself as a traitor as he had sworn an oath to the Soviet Union.

“Many people shunned him. His classmates felt he had betrayed the Motherland,” he said.

“In 2012 he called me. We spoke for about half an hour. He called me from London. He denied he was a traitor... [he told me] he wrote to Vladimir Putin asking to be fully pardoned and to be allowed to visit Russia. His mother, brother and other relatives were [in Russia].”

The Kremlin later issued a denial that any such letter was sent to the Russian President.

The attempted assassination sparked a diplomatic crisis between Russia and Britain, which has been supported by its allies in apportioning blame to the Kremlin.

At least six countries in Europe are understood to be considering the expulsion of Russian spies after the EU took the lead and announced it would recall its ambassador to Moscow.

Russia has vehemently denied any responsibility for the incident, while last Sunday the country’s EU ambassador Vladimir Chizhov said that “from the legal point of view the Russian state had nothing against him [Mr Skripal]”.

Russia’s ambassador to the UK Alexander Yakovenko sent his well wishes to Mr Skripal and his daughter on Friday and wrote to Wiltshire Police detective sergeant Nick Bailey, who was left seriously ill after he was exposed to the poison as he went to the Skripals’ aid.

Sergei Skripal was freed in a 2010 deal which saw 10 Russian sleeper agents expelled from the United States (AP)
Mr Bailey said his experience had been “completely surreal” after he was discharged from hospital.

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Short story is that these 'Novichoks' are real compounds studied in the USSR at bench scale in the 1970s, at a time when several countries were studying possible new nerve agents.

The story of a secret programme in the late 80s / early 90s to develop a chemical super-weapon named "Novichok" was fabricated by Soviet counter-intelligence to successfully flush Vil Sultanovich Mirzayanov out as a US spy/leaker, and continued after the collapse of the USSR to confuse the US.


https://consortiumnews.com/2018/04/17/an-alternative-explantion-to-the -skripal-mystery/

The authentic looking secret material which he was deliberately given access to as a test of his loyalty did indeed 'find its way' to United States intelligence.

He was arrested in 1992 but the trial collapsed under Yeltsin and he moved to live in the United States in 1995.

The US studied the toxicity of these compounds around 1996, and all indications were they are not as toxic as Sarin or VX.

Their structures have been publicly available since 2008, so anyone with a reasonable lab can make them at bench scale.

https://media.urmedium.com/video/2020/09/03/637346990745262676video.mp 4

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