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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:50 pm    Post subject: 14Aug Genoa Morandi Bridge blown up? Double explosive flash? Reply with quote

Two flashes
Right at the start of this video of Tuesday's bridge collapse
Genoa: moment Morandi Bridge collapses

Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Laqd6hCPc2I



This Fox news report use of this footage begins just AFTER the flashes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwbIODJHTLM

Where's the CCTV?

Luciano Goccia was in his lorry directly under the bridge. A pressure wave threw the Truck driver out of his vehicle, not falling debris.
He was opening the door to get out, and then he heard an explosion and when he turned around he was thrown through the air.
Explosion, pressure wave, from the vehicle, ejected, so that sounds pretty much according to act of terrorism.
http://www.spiegel.de/video/genua-lkw-fahrer-aus-italien-stand-unter-d er-bruecke-video-99020034.html


Was it blown up, the Morandi bridge?
Wednesday, 15. August 2018 , by Freeman at 20:00
https://alles-schallundrauch.blogspot.com/2018/08/wurde-die-morandi-br ucke-gesprengt.html

A retired Dipl. A civil engineer specializing in bridge building during his decades-long career of time, has made me aware of the collapse of the Morandi bridge could be intentionally carried out. He even says that it was an act of terrorism by a planned demolition. He refers to the Video of Daniele di Georgio, the only, the fraction shows together. In it are to be seen at the beginning of the recording, two light flashes, which could originate from a detonation. This Light, this happened two Times in a row and at bridge height, I also noticed when Viewing the Videos. It is noteworthy, then the pillar broke, although the roadway was already gone. The two flashes of light come from an Explosion by explosives?

It has been claimed, the two-time Light would have been caused by thunderstorm lightning, and the lightning might have been the cause for the collapse. To do this, said Jens Karstedt of the chamber of construction in Berlin in an Interview with the "world", that would be very unlikely: "to Me, is the world not aware of any case, the lightning to the collapse of a bridge."

In addition, the roadway was, really, as the flashes of light are seen.

The first witness statements of driving a car, to the bridge shortly before the collapse on the way were, there were warning signs on the road, it will find "repair work" on the bridge. It was then claimed that this Work could have caused the collapse.

True, but in a different way than meant. The "repair" may have been used as camouflage, in order to place the explosives.

Was 9/11 also the case, as we recall, before the blow up it was very unusual because large-scale "renovation" of the WTC towers and it was even turned off the weekend before, the entire power to the skyscrapers. All the offices were empty, and the safety monitoring was not in function. Perfectly undisturbed, without witnesses to the towers for demolition to prepare.

Who is paying attention exactly what the "workers" and whether you are renovating a really "on" or dynamite place?

Here is the statement of the engineer about the Bridge collapse in Genoa:

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I am of the opinion that the Bridge collapse in Genoa was a terrorist act and a planned demolition. How do I get there?

I just found a Video on the net, which is actually a part of the collapse shows. It is a Daniele di Georgio (other surprisingly there is none).

I have cut out the first 10 seconds of the video and attached. In the first second 2 flashes from the Foundation area of the support point, the support falls, and at 10-second nothing is there. What is striking, that in the case of second 0, the road is already there, but only of the pillars. The statement of the Filmmaker and the eye-witnesses, you would have perceived the Thunder and lightning and then the bridge would be collapsed. (The Thunderstorm is nonsense).

From the Video you can see: First, the diagonal cables have been blown away. Daniele listens to the pop (possibly, he also sees a flash), and holding instinctively to be mobile in the direction of the bridge. The road is blasted down, but he got caught in the first second of the movie, the blowing up of the pillar (double-flash from the Foundation area.)


The original appearance of the bridge I added. The pillar in the middle has been eliminated with the blowing up completely. If the inclined cable only rip, the cob still for a long time. The bridge roadway is made of steel, the pillar, however, is made of concrete.

Also, the debris field indicates an explosion, because the failure of a Bridge, leading to a General failure of the pillar. As the pavement was gone, was relieved of the pillars. Without blowing up he would be like never completely.

Strangely, the possibility of the attack not even mentioned in the press.

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What is the Dipl. Engineer says, because of the pillars still stood as the roadway already broken away and the ropes were torn, you can just have a blast the pillar to collapse, what are the two flashes of light explained.

"Act of terrorism" can only be a plot by the secret services against the new Italian government mean. Why? Because she has spoken out against the EU, against the Euro, against mass migration and for the lifting of sanctions against Russia.

These are but four issues which are taboo, and the shadow of power is not allowed. You have given the government a lesson and a warning signal is given?

Attacks in Europe are mostly signals of the shade makes to the government, you have to follow, otherwise, you have Terror. There is the NATO secret army and the secret services of staging such attacks.

Like the time at the 2. August 1980 bombing of the Central station of Bologna, which killed 85 people and 200 injured. The debt-to-one pushed to the extreme left-wing Red brigades in the shoes.

Actually the attack but agents of the Italian intelligence service SISMI, as well as the secret Lodge Propaganda Due (P2), and NATO-secret armies (Gladio). Italy "threatened to drift away" at the time, to the "left" politically, what you wanted to prevent.

Why this bridge in Genoa as a target of an attack? Because the Anti-Establishment movement "five stars" (M5S), is now involved in the government, voted in 2013 against projects to bypass the bridge.

A study was cited by M5S, and you commented with the words, it was "a fairy tale (favoletta), this could be an imminent collapse of the Morandi bridge. In order to prove to you that the final report of Autostrade does not have read, "it was said.

The motorway operator Autostrade per l'italia has explicitly stated that the Ponte Morandi "100 years can", if you normal been waiting for.

You have helped now, "" and you brought down so that the M5S looks bad, because the Italian transport Minister, Danilo Toninelli, is a member of the M5S?

By the way, this note on the study has now been the website of the party is deleted, and only see in the Internet archive.

Italy is ruled from Brussels and Frankfurt

There was already a massive warning to the Northern League and M5S, its policy, which it has promised to the voters, not to implement, especially in what concerns the Euro, and the massive debt of Italy.

As the designated Finance Minister, Paolo Savona was the claim that the ECB should stress as much as 250 billion euros of the debt, currently, the debt stands at 2,263 trillion euros, came away from Frankfurt, the Intervention in the formation of the government.

The member of the Goldman Sachs Mafia and the ECB President, Mario Draghi, the Italian President, Sergio mattarella, the command that new elections for the autumn to declare the former IMF Economist Carlo Cottarelli for the Interim as head of government.

We remember the Intervention of the EURO-Mafia in Frankfurt, who ruled Italy, it was already time, as Silvio Berlusconi on the 9th. February 2011 was overthrown.

The ECB pushed the interest rates for Italian government bonds, massive in height, which could not cope with the state to hunt Berlusconi from office. His "resignation" was forced.

President Giorgio Napolitano commissioned on 13. November 2011, the Bilderbergers and Goldman, Mario Monti, with the formation of a transitional government (a government of technocrats).

We see what the Italian people want to or interested in anyone under the dictatorial Eurocrats, financial criminal and Bank star. You determine who is the head of government.

It was only when the Lega and the M5S gave up and let the demand for debt, they were allowed to to the helm. So you caved. The party, Giuseppe Conte is since 1. June 2018, Prime Minister Of Italy.

Tells us, the Morandi bridge is easy to be broken so all of a sudden because of old age phenomena and lightning strike, although the company, which is for the bridge to be responsible, gave her another 100 years.

And of course, the Fake-News media (particularly the Germans), the new "populist" and "xenophobic" government, but only two months in office, a claim is to blame.

So it could be that this was a warning to Europe's FIRST real Anti-EU government, to think not of leaving the EU, and the other claims can forget wants against what Brussels she also!

Oh Yes, and Genoa, the home town of the founder of the "Five star movement" of Beppe Grillo, it is still a reason to take the city as a destination.

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Addition: It is now claimed by some readers, the flashes of light originated from a short circuit in the overhead line of the railway, when the road surface is like. Only the road was already passed to the floor as the flashes of light.



I then thought of the "unexpected" collapse could be a subsequent olfener demolition, in order to erect a new building. Was 9/11 also a motive to get rid of the asbestos infested towers, new build, what happened.

From now on I'll put the next statement is the smart ass, the pillars would fall over, when the ropes that hold the roadway, are gone. To me, the photos and the plans during the construction phase.





The Photo is one of the pillars in the construction phase, this is built very stable with a wide base and is, of course, for themselves. How can you collapse a pillar, therefore, and in small parts except crumble, by targeted blowing up???

If the roadway was due to the strain on dilapidated and the support cables, but still the support. But it is completely gone and disappeared. Use your brain and your common sense, don't always all the lies the media tell against any logic.

In Switzerland, almost all the bridges have built-in explosive chambers, the filling in the event of war with explosives to destroy the bridges and to make the enemy useless. That was probably the case here too.


Example of an input to a blasting chamber

Bomb attack on an office of the Lega

The attack on the parties of the new government. On Thursday, an explosive device detonated in the vicinity of the offices of the Italian Northern League party in the North of the country. The attack occurred in the town of Villorba, in the vicinity of Venice. According to the Explosion has injured, Reports people.

Another explosive device was found in the vicinity of the office, which was defused by specialists. Firefighters and experts in biological and chemical weapons are also on site.

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The Morpheus says:
16. August, 2018 06:55
The one with the bridge pillar, I have asked myself from the beginning. The are so solid, if only from the road surface breaks away.
Virindi says:
16. August, 2018 07:59
The 2 flashing lights you see could be the route of the overhead lines of the railway and of the houses, power lines beneath the bridge were to come? Since it will have crushed certainly everything, and thus to short-circuits. The impact then surely also to nearby electricity infrastructure.
Otherwise, I'm with you, again, it's funny this is happening now, something like that. And even if the 2 flash lights should not come from an explosion, and from the power lines. Can be of help, nevertheless, the collapse of the bridge.
Jan Mourad says:
16. August, 2018 08:15
A super beautiful, thanks to Freeman
, I hope that many people will finally Wake up and see what works on this world expires.
Unknown says:
16. August, 2018 08:20
However, it could also be assumed to be simply that the bridge is actually crashes due to serious deficiencies in the substance. The part was at least 51 years old, and the well-known Italian "architecture" (which has unfortunately nothing to do with the ancient Roman community), that the Italian construction industry is almost entirely in the hands of the Mafia. Honestly, that alone is enough for a statement.

Frightening, it should be in the case, but how quickly and are actually unpredictable so an accident can happen. Since the idea gets to the in their own country, often dilapidated bridge structures, a completely different quality...
Bekir Altindal says:
16. August 2018 10:29
Scohn possible. An Italian Minister had previously said that the USA's economic war against Turkey heavy consequences for Italy and the EU have...

...a couple of day: BOOM! Bridge and civilians dead.
Georg Saint says:
16. August 2018 11:14
And one of the most toll motorway bridges in the North of Italy can be a fear and worry! You have to wonder (with a bit of engineering mind) why are these parts at all, and even trucks also are allowed to drive. The probation steels are in many Places open and rusting away and the concrete parts in mass cracks and fractures (on the topic of blowing up). In a healthy economy, and a sensible policy would have to be locked up in the North of Italy for sure 2/3 of all highway bridges and renewed! Conclusion: The EU has send no reason to be stupid "populist" invective in the direction of Russia...you are just diverting attention from your own substantial problems and a widespread, and by such facts obvious corruption (whether in Italy or in Germany).
Günter Düsterhus says:
16. August 2018 11:16
In Germany, as well as every bridge is dilapidated. 100 billion per year for Merkel's gold guys are also costs to live there. The most important bridge of Europe in Cologne, A1, over the Rhine is blocked for trucks and will not be addressed. Cologne has exhausted 4 billion in debt and the town,total , begs for more Negro.
Thaihänse says:
16. August 2018 11:23
Why am I not surprised...The Guineas wanted in last time, the *refugee ferries* tugs boats in your ports... Maybe one of the reasons.������
Thaihänse says:
16. August 2018 11:39
Why am I not surprised...The Guineas wanted in last time, the *refugee ferries* tugs boats in your ports... Maybe one of the reasons.😡👎😎
Klaus-Dieter green forest says:
16. August 2018 11:49
To eliminate the suspension of the road and the Arrow to the base with two explosions, each detonating pioneer after half a year of training with the left. These armies will be needed. The concealment of the operations needed specialists.
The two flashes of light have the same thickness as that of blasting. The clouds of dust signal the success.
As clean as the exposed reinforcing steel at each breaking point in the Film, and the films looked then, can be spoken of a dilapidated bridge. It's rust spots are nowhere visible.
Germanic black blood says:
16. August 2018 13:14
Yes could be, but more likely concrete cancer ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/alkali-kiesels%c3%a4ure-reaktion ) was probably the cause.
Recently, it was blown up a pedestrian overpass because of a similar dilapidated conditions.
The bridge in Genoa was known to the which is located in a totally dilapidated condition. If anyone here is Responsible, then the previous government took the Nothing. The current government bears a share of the blame, because they let the bridge did not Lock.
Not Everything that Happens, must be a False Flag. Such tragic accidents just Happen.
MadChineseDizzease says:
16. August 2018 13:19
Quite clearly blown up from the ground. A DEW laser weapon from above I close my due to the images. The ill motives of these even sicker Overlord powers to tap us toddler, people, always, when everything is over and have made the bag already! So what? Satan rules the earth, God is watching the cosmic Drama interested and does... NOTHING! We are rats in his laboratory in the cosmic Drama of the Maya, is funny this life, die, incl. reinker kidneys without any hope of redemption, and without love in the world! *, but. Thank God for alcohol!
Peter Paul says:
16. August 2018 15:04
The bridge was renovated in 2016.....
gstauderwaugerl says:
16. August, 2018 17:26
Oddly enough, today, on most Videos, the lightning disappeared, yesterday I was still on all the Videos seen, without, for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pl0rsVdXxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4mB8dv9or0

Survivor: "I was in front of my truck and was spun through the air"
https://rtlnext.rtl.de/cms/ueberlebender-ich-war-vor-meinem-lkw-und-wu rde-durch-die-luft-geschleudert-4206537.html?c=ddbd
(by the Way, even without lightning!)

Bad luck for the Italians, only on 6. August is a tank car in Bologna on a highway bridge the car in front unchecked and explodes:
http://www.spiegel.de/video/bologna-lkw-explosion-auf-autobahn-nahe-fl ughafen-video-99019774.html
http://www.spiegel.de/video/bologna-auffahrunfall-fuehrte-zu-lkw-explo sion-video-99019776.html
Thomas Hessel says:
16. August, 2018 17:59
Hello Freeman!! I have a feeling this is to be expected from you in this direction in an article. I knew nothing of flashes of light and eventual demolition, but this was a fall for me a little weird. He looked like from the bridge, sawn, and people such as we are now buffeted not only that, suspicion, should we always suspect a crime because this system is a crime. Again, a Detail for the fact that you can be born from this EU and all around just a cesspool. This smelly NGO-BRiD-KZ is the driving engine for these crimes, there can be robbed of the financial resources of all kinds. The stupid German slave is to stupid to understand !!
navy says:
16. August, 2018 18:43
cheapest demolition method, especially when an insurance company pays. how on 11.9.2001
Unknown says:
16. August, 2018 19:09
Today I flew again in the air.
I'm curious whether it's the Russians. The Russian economy is flourishing since the sanctions and that is why now, in Europe, covering them with Terror, and to catch in Italy.
Well, in the meantime, you can expect the Prestituierten almost everything.
DirtDiver says:
16. August, 2018 19:24
Thomas Hessel
, As I've heard, I was immediately a blast through the head. Because let's be honest: A bridge does not collapse.
Before this collapse would be so many external factors visible. But apparently it wasn't these.

However, "The Genoese newspaper Il Secolo XIX wrote in 2014, it was time for the demolition". Is set to Wiki(yeah, I know)

we Wait times from what the expert and witness statements in the next few days be distributed & whether it is in our opinion a blast.
Unknown says:
16. August, 2018 20:01
Here is the report of the German ZDF's:
--> second 55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCQkeoXVMao

Na? You see flashes of something?
A little bit of what's missing. What a "coincidence"....
ostgote says:
16. August, 2018 20:29
Italy's government is not working in the sense of the globalists, here is the deep state was at work
Max Weiss says:
16. August, 2018 20:55
Strategic bridges always contain explosives for the war. Maybe there's time to investigate...
René says:
16. August, 2018 21:19
Wrong, at the ZDF you can see it flashing. 2.49 and 3.10 !!! I look at their Propaganda nich but it struck me directly. At the beginning of the contribution, but as mentioned, no flashes.

René
Large says:
16. August, 2018 22:01
As a civil engineer (Constructive) I can confirm the conjecture of Freeman. Also in the photos of the debris is clearly seen that these are to cracked black. In the construction of these bridges, only the pillars are Made and then the bridge elements between them hung. The pillars of a bridge can therefore be super alone.
Also, the timing of the blast is remarkable. It would have been Easy to blow up the pillar. Then there would be no evidence of an explosion.
This is the announcement of a clear fight to the elected government. With an unmistakable note we the bridge have blown up. What we say or it will be much worse.
I'm curious, if the government in Italy will now break.
jos müller says:
16. August, 2018 22:13
In this video you can see very well that was the road already gone, and afterwards it flashes 3x !!
http://www.grenchnertagblatt.ch/mediathek/videos/0_t8u0bemu
Marco Mauriello says:
16. August, 2018 23:29
Luigi di Maio (Deputy Prime Minister of Italy) an hour ago on Facebook:

"There are people that the toll is paid and die. Genoa is in shock. The concessions are so call now. The government slows down? No, the government accelerated. This is the Video of my speech earlier on. Please spread it. Thank you!"

Source: https://www.facebook.com/LuigiDiMaio/videos/235074490424498/
freethinker says:
17. August, 2018 03:04
You should try to collect residues of explosives. If this is successful, we would have the proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIonaymWyvM
Thomas Ramdas Voegeli says:
17. August, 2018 04:05
The first question that flashed in me was: Why the hell is the whole pillar, so the vertical columns is broke,? This won't do, not because of material fatigue, not due to train or pressure.

Then I saw the movie, because the road is already gone and the cob down later Austen.
Very logical, very logical.

Once again the right nose. The thing stinks to high heaven.
silkyregina B says:
17. August, 2018 05:59
could it have something to do with that salvini, the eu, soros, the migration, the population exchange, ... say, spitting out the nwo in the soup, and this is now a warning shot?
Marco Mauriello says:
17. August 2018 09:39
So if this was a "stop", then the "a shot went off, but" fully to the rear. Because of this tragedy, the Italian motorways are now very likely to be nationalized, i.e. nationalized. And this is only the beginning...

The high-ranking Italian politicians Salvini and Di Maio make the private group "Atlantia" for the collapse of responsible, because this group already knew since about 2 years ago that this bridge is about to collapse. According to Salvini made Atlantia in the last year, net profit of 1 billion euros (with tolls), and you have done little for the security of Italian citizens. Therefore, the question of now is to nationalize the motorways. And in Italy there is a huge infrastructure, so many bridges, Tunnels, etc., this has to be controlled. It is to renovate a lot. Now it takes many billions for this Work. The EU treaties do not allow the Italians, but that you can spend enough money for such Work. NOT interested in Salvini but, for him, the safety of the Italians. You will take on this Work now, with or without the consent of the EU.
Freeman says:
17. August 2018 10:02
Everything is just empty chatter. Salvini and Di Mario talk much when the day is long. Since nothing is nationalized, because the Italian state has no money, the group buy and then there is the whole renovation. Nationalize is not to say Yes to expropriate, but a purchase. With what? With even more debt than you have already? The Italians can do nothing, unless it is approved by Berlin, Frankfurt and Brussels. The Euros printed by the ECB and not in Rome. This "populist" government is either on the line is silent or you will be overthrown, just as Berlusconi.
denny says:
17. August, 2018 10:42
Hi Freeman,

Luciano Goccia stand with his truck directly under the bridge. A pressure wave threw the Truck driver out of his vehicle.
He opened the door to get out, and then he heard an Explosion and when he turned around he was thrown through the air.
Explosion, pressure wave, from the vehicle, ejected, so that sounds pretty much according to act of terrorism.
http://www.spiegel.de/video/genua-lkw-fahrer-aus-italien-stand-unter-d er-bruecke-video-99020034.html

Remove Government says:
17. August 2018 to 10:45
According to Emery,a truck was thrown-Drive, the have had under the Buecke parked by a pressure wave from his vehicle.......he had a previously a EXPLSION perceived. http://www.spiegel.de/video/genua-lkw-fahrer-aus-italien-stand-unter-d er-bruecke-video-99020034.html


Unknown says:
17. August 2018 10:53
I believed in the first instance only to a collapse of a dilapidated bridge. But the debris field of the support pillar, and the Video with the Flashing let me noisy. Look at the Timming of the flashes of light and compares it with other Videos from blasting:there is überlall the same Timming between the explosion flashes and kollabrieren of the building, high-rise buildings, bridges, etc.
To random lightning strikes on the ground, or the radio end of the upper lines, I think not.

It is also striking report on how the "quality media" about the incident, are silent in the forest, just not too much to report, it could throw a bad light on the private operators of public Infrastructure.

The bridge - one for Italy, an extremely important transport infrastructure was blown up, whether it is the government on track to bring, or just to the ailing thing at the expense of the tax payer to renew.

@Freeman, all the German bridges have explosive chambers in the event of an attack or the threat of crew to quickly destroy.

Freeman says:
17. August 2018 10:57
An Explosion with a pressure wave and a heavy damage to the truck means explosives!!! We have confirmed this to be a witness of my guess.
Let's see how long he for this statement remains and/or still life. The witnesses told the same about WTC 7, died one after the other ...!
The Video of his testimony necessarily download and save before it disappears!!!

Marco Mauriello says:
17. August 2018 11:23
Freeman, the Italian state do NOT need to buy the group. The group had received from the Italian government many years ago, the concession to toll fees to get a medal and maintenance work. These have been carried out is defective, and the Italian state may terminate the contract.
The Italian state currently from the money of the ECB is clear. However, if the Italian state is not received from the ECB enough money for all the plans you have, it may come to a rupture with the EU...
The plans of the current Italian government, are always authorize more to national. If you think this is the end, then it goes so far that they also approve the money and the money creation the national. Clearly, that would be for the EU and the left inter-war nationalists reason. Salvini is aware of this, I think, very likely that's why he talks now that he wants to reintroduce compulsory military service.

Unknown says:
17. August, 2018 20:33
If the flashes are CUT OUT, however, that is more than suspicious. At the latest, then you should start with the Think.



Hier weiterlesen: Alles Schall und Rauch: Wurde die Morandi-Brücke gesprengt?
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The bridge is/was one of only two to emerge from the drawing board of a long dead designer. The other, much longer, is in Venezuela. This unusual design has the support cables enclosed in concrete, which allows very little flexibility to both traffic conditions and the weather. The highway authority has hated the bridge for years because it required constant on going maintenance – as was the case in the run up to the collapse.

The populist government latched on to the EU rationing investment funds and strangling infrastructure budgets when the bridge was under repair with EU subsidies when it collapsed. Worse the joint coalition party founded by the clown Beppe Grillo (the 5 stars) turned down replacement of the bridge years ago calling the reports of imminent danger of collapse ‘ fairy stories.’


Genoa bridge collapse: Families jeer Italian politicians at state funeral
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/genoa-bridge-collapse- death-toll-italian-government-families-boycott-victims-a8497131.html

The families of the victims of Genoa’s bridge collapse shouted and jeered at members of Italy’s former government at today's state funeral.

President Sergio Mattarella and Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte - both members of Italy's new populist government - were welcomed by relatives attending the service.

But Maurizio Martina - secretary of the former ruling Democratic party - and former defence minister Roberta Pinotti were heckled by some of the thousands inside Genoa’s exhibition and trade centre.

Some relatives blame the previous Italian government for Tuesday’s tragedy, believing ministers bore some responsibility for safety failures.

Some shouted “buffone” - clown - at the former ministers as they arrived.

More than half of the grieving families had refused to take part in the funeral and mass organised by the state for victims of the disaster, as the death toll rose to 42.

Many are holding private ceremonies in Genoa and elsewhere in Italy. Newspaper La Stampa reported only 18 of the 42 victims' families attended the state ceremony.

Roberto Battiloro, father of Giovanni Battiloro, who died alongside three of his friends, said: “The state has not protected its citizens.

“My son was killed [by] a mocking destiny but also [by] those who did not think that on that bridge there could be some children of today – desperate people.”

The unnamed father of one victim said his son “will not become a number in the catalogue of deaths caused by Italian failures. We do not want a farce of a funeral but a ceremony at home.”

Archbishop Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco led the funeral, which coincided with a national day of mourning.

Mr Bagnasco said Pope Francis had called him to say he was praying for the victims and grieving families.

“The collapse of the Morandi bridge over the Polcevera stream has slashed the heart of Genoa, and the wound is profound,” said the cardinal.

Footballers from Serie A sides Genoa and Sampdoria were there to mourn the victims, and firefighters were applauded as they arrived. ​

The Italian authorities, meanwhile, updated the number of people killed in the tragedy to 42 after rescue workers found the bodies of four more victims.

Three family members were discovered in a car overnight. The victims were named as Cristian and Dawna Cecala, and their nine-year-old daughter Krystal.

The body of a 30-year-old man was discovered on Saturday morning, according to Italian state radio.

Italy’s transport ministry has given Autostrade per l’Italia – the operator of the motorway bridge – 15 days to demonstrate how it fulfilled its contractual obligations in relation to the bridge. It has asked the company to pay to rebuild the structure.

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Witness says there was an explosion...

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https://alles-schallundrauch.blogspot.com/2018/08/zeuge-bestatigt-es-g ab-eine-explosion.html

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Witness confirms an explosion in the bridge in Genoa
Friday, 17th of August, 2018, from Freeman around 12:05

My preceding article raised the question, "Became the Morandi bridge sprinkled?"[Ed: I assume "Was the bridge exploded?"], because there are many tips [clues] to it, it was no misfortune, but there was "helped" and the bridge was brought intentionally to case. Now a truck driver has expressed itself compared with the media and has said, he experienced state by his truck under the bridge and an explosion and a blast which flung him of the vehicle away against a wall. There he remained lying unconscious. When he woke he noticed, his right arm had broken.


This expiry of the events would support my thesis, the bridge was sprinkled, because only so there can be an explosion and an immense blast which slung him.

It also explains the light flashes briefly before the pillar crashed down.

Luciano Goccia said:

"I had come just under the bridge and opened the door to get out. There I heard an explosion. When I turned round, I was flung by the air and hit against a wall. I lost the consciousness. The air blast which had thrown back me saved my life. In this truck I sat (points at the completely destroyed truck nearby). I feel blest. This is everything."

Is it not typical again which comes none of the "journalists" of the Main * media [sic] after this witness's statement on the question, this was a spraying? They say nothing at all to this new knowledge and ignore the obvious and evident ones.
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Genoa is Five Star & Grillo's base.
Also bomb on Thursday outside the right anti EU party offices in Treviso where Goldman Sachs front Autostrada, run by beneton shirt Mafia, are based.
https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/16/far-left-anarchist-extremi sts-take-credit-for-bombing-italian-populist-party-office/

Italy is discussing new currency parallel to the Euro.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2018/06/07/italys-proposed-pa rallel-currency-is-the-biggest-threat-to-the-eurozone/

Is this just NATO Brussels reminding Italy who's in charge?

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Genoa’s mourners turn their rage on parading politicians
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/genoas-mourners-turn-their-ra ge-on-parading-politicians-nj8fxx7pd

After years of warnings about the bridge that collapsed, grieving families say ministers cannot dodge blame

Matthew Campbell, Genoa
August 19 2018, 12:01am, The Sunday Times
Experts have long warned that the bridge was a threat to public safety
Experts have long warned that the bridge was a threat to public safety
Italian politicians, priests and dignitaries gathered yesterday at a solemn state funeral for victims of the bridge collapse in Genoa, as the death toll rose to 42 after the discovery of a family of three in a car crushed under the rubble.

Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco sprinkled holy water on coffins covered in wreaths of white roses, cuddly toys, football shirts and photographs of the men, women and children who fell to their deaths on Tuesday as they drove over the bridge.

Sergio Mattarella, the Italian president, kissed and hugged their relatives.

Some grieving families, however, had shunned the pomp-filled ceremony at Genoa’s exhibition centre, angry over allegations that the state had turned a blind eye to the bridge’s decay.

“The state is responsible for what…

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Crikey!

Ponte Morandi, the images of the collapse have disappeared. Autostrada company says: we had "A blackout"
http://www.secoloditalia.it/2018/08/ponte-morandi-sparite-le-immagini- del-crollo-societa-autostrade-un-black-out/

Ponte Morandi, the images of the collapse disappeared. Motorways company: "A blackout"
by Carlo Marini Friday 17 August 2018 - 17:05



"There were problems with the video recordings of the Autostrade company. I can not say that there are materials of great importance or utility. Bad weather affected the bad quality of the images. The lack of real images or the interruption of images is due, to what is given to understand, to disconnections on the network due to the seismic phenomenon, to the collapse in short. In short, a blackout ". So the attorney of Genoa Francesco Cozzi to the microphone of the Gr1 Rai on the recordings of the cameras of the company highways positioned on the Morandi bridge.

Salvini warns Motorways companies
"Someone has not respected the contract and there are some former minister who signed an absurd concession to Autostrade, where the controllers were the inspectors who did everything at home and where you pay the penalty not only for lost profits, but also for the missed tolls ». So the Minister of the Interior Matteo Salvini at Tgcom24. "I wonder - he added - if those who signed those acts did so by distraction, incapacity or otherwise".

The video of a citizen a few days before the collapse
In these hours, instead, an amateur video appeared on July 31st, where we see a long crack along the Morandi bridge. Even these images will be examined by the investigators. Like the video just before the collapse, where you see the cars on the bridge suddenly slow down.


19 AUGUST 2018 - 7.17
So, just to emphasize .... Does the word MAFIA say anything?
In the concaves of the left, that's it!

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Matera Savino
18 AUGUST 2018 - 11:30
Good morning, almost 15 years ago something absurd happened to me with the company autostrade.ero on the highway where I went to work with the company car.all suddenly comes up with a strange object.lo taken in full nn doing in time to avoid it. The object was an iron bar almost a meter long, making me literally jump the gear and risking to make an accident. This must not happen Because the highway should be monitored by people in the highways company. I'll be short .... I was rescued by Aci taking me home. The traffic police intervened and my owner reached me. With a report from the policemen and Telepass of my owner, the highway company managed to cancel everything ... the car of my holder nn is never passed on the highway in that morning.ASSURDO.The people behind the highway company are real or proper homicidal mafia.


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Angry
AUGUST 18, 2018 - 11:10
I do not think it was the collapse to spoil the camera system ... you should see up to a second before the collapse, even coinciding with the collapse ... ..

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Maurizio
AUGUST 18, 2018 - 10:37
Ah, the rain? But if at the same time ordinary citizens under the same rain miles from the bridge resumed everything and with normal phones that do not have the zoom? Tell the truth you are concealing the evidence of your crime! Shame for those employees who lend themselves to this infamy!
The highway company is guilty of multiple homicide!

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17 AUGUST 2018 - 22:33
Very convenient!!!



Conte: "The government is with Genoa"
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Imbracted Lega headquarters in Bergamo
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Italy's Proposed Parallel Currency Is The Biggest Threat To The Eurozone
John Mauldin
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2018/06/07/italys-proposed-pa rallel-currency-is-the-biggest-threat-to-the-eurozone/#2df7d2a36cb0

I think the global economy is nearing what I call “The Great Reset.”

My thesis is that over the next decade we will endure increasingly damaging debt crises that culminate in a coordinated global default.

There are limits to how much leverage the world can handle, and I think we are already beyond them. And that is before we have a global recession. The only question now is how we will manage the collapse.

I previously quoted former BIS Chief Economist William White on how this will all unfold. Here’s his key point again.

… the trigger for a crisis could be anything if the system as a whole is unstable. Moreover, the size of the trigger event need not bear any relation to the systemic outcome. The lesson is that policymakers should be focused less on identifying potential triggers than on identifying signs of potential instability.

Bill says the financial system is so fragile that practically anything could trigger a crisis. Better to watch for signs of potential instability. And one of the hot spots today is Italy.

Parallel Currency

Italy’s new government, an unexpected coalition between two populist parties, could blow up the fragile trust that keeps Europe together. And the leading parties may even be planning for it.

The discussions between Lega Nord and Five Star included an idea called the “mini-BOT” that would effectively serve as a parallel currency.

The BOT is Italy’s Treasury bill, and as in the U.S., it serves as a kind of cash equivalent in electronic trading. The mini-BOT would be a government debt instrument in paper form that pays zero interest and never matures.

The government would use it to pay social benefits and accept it for tax payments. Private businesses would not be required to accept it, but they could.

Private businesses and individuals would also, in theory, buy the mini-BOT as a way to pay their taxes. But they would buy them at a discount. So traders would immediately set up an arbitrage where the person getting the social benefits payment could sell them for euros for, call it, a 5% or 10% haircut.

Former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi, who is still a force in Italy, insists this would be legal. The Northern League sees a way to ease the transition out of the euro and the Five-Star Movement sees a way to increase spending without having to take on euro debt.

And since the new coalition government wants to increase the deficit an additional $180 billion euros or so through a combination of tax cuts and increased spending, this is being seriously proposed.

The mini-BOT probably could be a practical alternative to the euro for many transactions. From what I’ve read, the other eurozone countries would have difficulty stopping it because the euro would still be the only formal “currency.”

And other Mediterranean countries would watch this experiment and begin moving in the same direction themselves.

Italy’s Bargaining Chip

You see where this goes. Italy might be able to use mini-BOTs (or let’s be honest and call them the new lira) to finance deficit spending without breaking eurozone rules.

This could ultimately debase the euro and blow apart the eurozone. Germany would have to leave. From there, you can draw your own map.

Is this what the Italian populists want? Some of them, yes, but I suspect their leaders know not to go too far. More likely, they see it as a bargaining chip—a plausible threat they can use to extract concessions from the ECB and other eurozone leaders.

The Greeks threatened something similar in 2015 and it didn’t work. I think Italy has a stronger hand.

But it gets scarier when you think about how this could happen. If Italy’s new government decides to launch a parallel currency, they will probably do it with no warning at all. Tipping their hand would spark capital flight and reduce the benefits.

We could literally wake up one morning to learn the lira (or something like it) is back and Germany is leaving the eurozone. Imagine how markets would react.

I think this scenario is unlikely, but it points to something else. As the coming debt crisis matures, national leaders and central bankers will find their choices narrowing. I’m constantly amazed at their creativity, but it has limits.

They can’t kick the can down the road forever. At some point, the road ends and then they have to choose. When your only choices are “impossible” and “terrible,” then you pick the latter.

We are going to see previously unthinkable ideas be seriously considered, and sometimes chosen, because all other options are even worse.

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Genoa is Five Star & Grillo's base.
Also bomb on Thursday outside the right anti EU party offices in Treviso where Goldman Sachs front Autostrada, run by beneton shirt Mafia, are based.
https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/16/far-left-anarchist-extremi sts-take-credit-for-bombing-italian-populist-party-office/

Italy is discussing new currency parallel to the Euro.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2018/06/07/italys-proposed-pa rallel-currency-is-the-biggest-threat-to-the-eurozone/

Is this just NATO Brussels reminding Italy who's in charge?

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CCTV footage near bridge at time of bridge collapse in Genoa
CCTV footage shows moment of bridge collapse in Genoa

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CCTV footage shows the moments that the Morandi bridge in Genoa, Italy collapsed, leaving dozens dead. The death toll from the disaster rose to 43 on Sunday after firefighters discovered three bodies, reported to be those of a couple and their nine-year-old daughter, overnight inside a car extracted from the rubble of the viaduct.


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- Peripheral CCTV released shows flashes
- Why zero Autostrada CCTV showing bridge made public?
- Eyewitness reports of 'loud bang' or 'explosion'
- Bridge in good condition
- Genoa the home of Peppe Grillo and Five Star (M5S)
- Explosion at Turin Lega party HQ too
- Italy wants parallel currency to the Euro
- Senior government ministers imposed by ECB
- Politicians cannot now do what they promised voters
- Previous acts of state terrorism in Italy

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Was Genoa's Morandi Bridge blown up by Deep State as threat to Eurosceptic Italian government?
https://politicsthisweek.wordpress.com/2018/08/24/bcfms-weekly-politic s-show-presented-by-tony-gosling-116/

- Peripheral CCTV released shows flashes
- Why zero Autostrada CCTV showing bridge made public?
- Eyewitness reports of 'loud bang' or 'explosion'
- Bridge in good condition
- Genoa the home of Peppe Grillo and Five Star (M5S)
- Explosion at Turin Lega party HQ too
- Italy wants parallel currency to the Euro
- Senior government ministers imposed by ECB
- Politicians cannot now do what they promised voters
- Previous acts of state terrorism in Italy

Genoa - another witness reports of a blast
http://alles-schallundrauch.blogspot.com/2018/08/genua-ein-weiterer-ze uge-berichtet-von.html

Saturday, 18. August 2018 , by Freeman at 08:00
After more and more of the Survivors of the bridge no fall in Genoa from the hospital, be discharged, come to her statements. In the previous article, I had reported: "a witness confirmed an Explosion at the bridge in Genoa". On Friday, the professional told the footballer Davide Capello what he experienced. He drove over the bridge when he heard a blast and the street below him to drop out from under me. As a trained firefighter, he immediately understood the bridge would be on the verge of collapse.

Capello was at the center of the Morandi bridge arrived, he told on Friday, as "all the world collapsed." The 33-Year-old said: "I heard a loud noise, a Bang. I saw the pillar of the road ahead of me collapse. A car in front of me went down. The car disappeared in the darkness in front of my eyes."

Volkswagen Tiguan crashed face-first into the deep and to hit, the Airbags opened around him. He said he saw only gray.

Capello then used the Touch-Screen phone in the car, to call in case of emergency, the centre of Savona, the help sent.

Then he called his girlfriend and his father, a retired fireman, told him that he should get out now, out of fear that something Heavy might fall on him.

Since neither the Windows nor the doors of the car moving, broke he strap his safety, and climbed through the hole in the rear of the car, because the rear window had blown away.

Outside arrived, he said, "there was an unreal silence."

"I am using my own legs dropped, "said Capello, for a series-C-Club in Liguria plays. "I don't know whether anyone else has managed. I was saved by a miracle."

"The car has protected me. But God has the car to his Job, "he said.

Capello was sacked on Thursday from the hospital, two days after the collapse. He said he had no major injuries.

Thus, there is another direct witness, the of them reported a "thud"the car belongs to, what could have come from an Explosion on the cob. He then looked like this in front of him collapsed.

Other witnesses saw a Thunder and a blast have experienced

Italian media reports, witnesses the further away were also a very loud Thunder heard. The Genoa-based newspaper "Il Secolo XIX" quotes a father of a family, who was with his wife and child on the access road to the bridge, as it came to a collapse. "We have a very loud Thunder heard and seen how it all collapses."

Also the region of the bridge was listening to collapse. "At the beginning we thought it would be a clap of thunder, very close, we have an incredible roar heard,“ said one of the witnesses to the bridge no fall, the Agency Ansa. "We live about five kilometers away from the bridge, but we have a hell of a Crash is perceived. We have a very frightened and scared."

The bridge was NOT neglected

Antonio Brencich, a Professor of engineering at the University of Genoa, has reflected in an Interview with the FAZ, the statement of the media - spoken, the bridge collapsed due to lack of Maintenance:

"This bridge was monitored in Detail by a Pool of experts of the first rank. Of money, it has never failed. There was a permanent monitoring system. Therefore, this was not a neglected bridge. You knew all about the aging of the building materials, therefore, the bridge was monitored. There were constantly maintenance measures. Therefore, we can say that the bridge was not treated superficially. Sure, something didn't work, but it is too early to say exactly what it is located.

The "not working" may have been a deliberate demolition.

Today's Saturday has been declared a national day of mourning in Italy, and it is a state ports burial on the exhibition grounds of the industry for those held, which collapsed in death. 42 people died in the process.


Manfred Petritsch at German language Alles Schall und Rauch (ASR) blog: Was Genoa's Morandi Bridge blown up by Deep State as threat to Eurosceptic Italian government? - Peripheral CCTV released shows flashes - Why zero Autostrada CCTV showing bridge made public? - Eyewitness reports of 'loud bang' or 'explosion' - Bridge in good condition - Genoa the home of Peppe Grillo and Five Star (M5S) - Explosion at Turin Lega party HQ too - Italy wants parallel currency to the Euro - Senior government ministers imposed by ECB - Politicians cannot now do what they promised voters - Previous acts of state terrorism in Italy - VIDEO: After roadway fell, double flash before tower collapse - Davide Di Giorgio - VIDEO: two peripheral CCTV cameras both indicate apparent flashes - released Monday 20th August Morandi bridge - another witness reports of a blast: After more and more of the Survivors of the bridge no fall in Genoa from the hospital, be discharged, come to her statements. In the previous article, I had reported: "a witness confirmed an Explosion at the bridge in Genoa". On Friday, the professional told the footballer Davide Capello what he experienced. He drove over the bridge when he heard a blast and the street below him to drop out from under me. As a trained firefighter, he immediately understood the bridge would be on the verge of collapse. Capello was at the center of the Morandi bridge arrived, he told on Friday, as "all the world collapsed." The 33-Year-old said: "I heard a loud noise, a Bang. I saw the pillar of the road ahead of me collapse. A car in front of me went down. The car disappeared in the darkness in front of my eyes." Volkswagen Tiguan crashed face-first into the deep and to hit, the Airbags opened around him. He said he saw only gray. Capello then used the Touch-Screen phone in the car, to call in case of emergency, the centre of Savona, the help sent. Then he called his girlfriend and his father, a retired fireman, told him that he should get out now, out of fear that something Heavy might fall on him. Since neither the Windows nor the doors of the car moving, broke he strap his safety, and climbed through the hole in the rear of the car, because the rear window had blown away. Outside arrived, he said, "there was an unreal silence." "I am using my own legs dropped, "said Capello, for a series-C-Club in Liguria plays. "I don't know whether anyone else has managed. I was saved by a miracle." "The car has protected me. But God has the car to his Job, "he said. Capello was sacked on Thursday from the hospital, two days after the collapse. He said he had no major injuries. Thus, there is another direct witness, the of them reported a "thud"the car belongs to, what could have come from an Explosion on the cob. He then looked like this in front of him collapsed. Other witnesses saw a Thunder and a blast have experienced. Italian media reports, witnesses the further away were also a very loud Thunder heard. The Genoa-based newspaper "Il Secolo XIX" quotes a father of a family, who was with his wife and child on the access road to the bridge, as it came to a collapse. "We have a very loud Thunder heard and seen how it all collapses." Also the region of the bridge was listening to collapse. "At the beginning we thought it would be a clap of thunder, very close, we have an incredible roar heard,“ said one of the witnesses to the bridge no fall, the Agency Ansa. "We live about five kilometers away from the bridge, but we have a hell of a Crash is perceived. We have a very frightened and scared." But, in my opinion, is the best witness to a demolition of pier Giorgio, the following is told: "I sat with my mother at half past twelve in the car or in our house, almost directly under the bridge, as the environment suddenly brightly lit up, and a blast was, "says the 23-Year-old at the beginning of the accident. "The Funny thing, however, came only after that. Because suddenly the car was shaking. It even jumped up slightly, I couldn't believe it. 'Oh *,' I called, 'an earthquake'". Note, he said, first of all, the surroundings of the bridge lit up bright and at the same time, there was a Bang. Then the earth that his car shook shook. He describes quite accurately the Detonation of explosives at the foundations of the support. - Italy's Proposed Parallel Currency Is The Biggest Threat To The Eurozone, by John Mauldin in Forbes magazine. Italy’s new government, an unexpected coalition between two populist parties, could blow up the fragile trust that keeps Europe together. And the leading parties may even be planning for it. The discussions between Lega Nord and Five Star included an idea called the “mini-BOT” that would effectively serve as a parallel currency. The BOT is Italy’s Treasury bill, and as in the U.S., it serves as a kind of cash equivalent in electronic trading. The mini-BOT would be a government debt instrument in paper form that pays zero interest and never matures. The government would use it to pay social benefits and accept it for tax payments. Private businesses would not be required to accept it, but they could. Italy’s Bargaining Chip: You see where this goes. Italy might be able to use mini-BOTs (or let’s be honest and call them the new lira) to finance deficit spending without breaking eurozone rules. This could ultimately debase the euro and blow apart the eurozone. Germany would have to leave. From there, you can draw your own map.  - 65 years on CIA admits role in 1953 Iranian coup. Declassified documents describe in detail how US – with British help – engineered coup against Mohammad Mosaddeq. The CIA has publicly admitted for the first time that it was behind the notorious 1953 coup against Iran's democratically elected prime minister Mohammad Mosaddeq, in documents that also show how the British government tried to block the release of information about its own involvement in his overthrow. On the 60th anniversary of an event often invoked by Iranians as evidence of western meddling, the US national security archive at George Washington University published a series of declassified CIA documents. 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The bridge is typically used as a handbook example in Italian structural engineering classes. Exactly for this reason, the bridge was supposedly well maintained and continuously supervised, and the tragic news of its collapse is completely unexpected.”
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What were the 'unscheduled roadworks' just before the bridge fell? Why won't Autostrada explain?
Italians point out serious unanswered questions over Genoa bridge #PonteMorandi collapse
Roberto Quaglia: Tre misteri sul crollo del Ponte Morandi

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The video is called .. Three mysteries about the Genova Bridge Collapse
https://www.facebook.com/1274106225/posts/10212878259292630/

This guy Roberto Qualia is on a Panora TV channel and it's a bit of an overall view of the circumstances, political and corporate. So the times stated are when his three points come up ..
It's pretty good and i think the guy pretty much on the ball, he seems to be a neutral observer.

and here they 1) to 3) are in a nutshell ..

1) his first point is on 03: 12 minutes he comes to the part about the actual collapse.

It is possible to see the roadway and it appears to have collapsed.
Presumably only seconds before the three flashes. That's bordering on being a strange coincidence..

Sgr Qualia states "there appear to be three flashes .. which come from below"

To me it's not clear that they come from below ..but it's also not at all clear that they come from above .. so it's an open question ..

He also states that these "flashes have not been explained". (by anyone in authority)

His second point starts on 03 :39 and basically follows on from number one ..
he explains the circumstances .. which are that someone living in Genova with a very good view of the bridge noticed something strange on the bridge the night before the collapse . take into account that it was 15th August .. Ferro agosto a pretty serious public holiday. It was literally pissing down with rain .. and the bridge was full of what he thought were maintenance vehicles .. loads and loads of flashing lights … The whole bridge was full, of flashing lights.
The next day the bridge collapsed and he sent it to the TV company SKY TG24
The TV company actual got in touch with him and spoke to him live (I think) on the air.
anyway it was transmitted.

The TV company recording of this starts at. 04:50

I don't know if it's been verified, it was sent to the TV company after the collapse could have been filmed any time before, the date would need to be verified. Could also ask the Motorway Maintenance people what they where doing. You can see that something fairly serious is going on, from the film.

05:50 The third point starts. It's about the Web Cams. It's very interesting.

It's possible to access various Italian Motorway webcams though the internet. There is a map, which is illustrated in the filmed, straight after the collapse the map changed and the two web cams that covered the bridge disappeared. However in the few minutes between the bridge collapsing and web cams being taken off line someone downloaded the video. which just basically shows traffic, this point is rather complex. This part totally clear to me and there are some loose ends. But it seems very dodgy to me.

Anyway there's interesting angles to check out ..



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Man mano che passano le ore diventa sempre più evidente che sul crollo del Ponte Morandi esistono delle zone oscure su cui è necessario fare chiarezza
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So there are a few interesting angles to follow:
1) the timing of events. How much time elapsed between the Roadway falling and then the tower collapsing.
2) or indeed was the event staggered, and where did the flashes and big bang fit in.
3) Then check where the witness were and what they actually heard and saw.
4) then cross reference the whole thing and see what comes out.
5) there's quite a bit going on under the bridge. Houses, factories and under that part of the bridge a waste disposal site.

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Was mafia concrete to blame? Investigators could probe whether Genoa bridge collapse was linked to dodgy firms 'charging full price and putting less cement in'
Thirty-nine people are now known to have died in the Morandi Viaduct collapse
Claims mafia concrete may have been used in maintenance works have emerged
Italy's construction industry is plagued with mafia corruption and infiltration
By ZOIE O'BRIEN FOR MAILONLINE and NICK FAGGE IN GENOA, ITALY FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 14:58, 15 August 2018 | UPDATED: 20:44, 15 August 2018
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6063327/Was-mafia-concrete-bla me-Investigators-probe-Genoa-bridge-collapse-links-criminals.html

The Genoa bridge collapse which has claimed the lives of at least 39 people may have been an accident waiting to happen after 'mafia' companies were involved in its construction, it has been claimed.

Italy has long been plagued with corruption and business infiltration by gangland bosses – particularly within the construction industry.

For decades, 'families' as mafia groups are often known, are believed to have blackmailed, conned and forced their way into big building contracts.

Engineers have now claimed the same thing may have happened when the Morandi Viaduct in Genoa was built between 1963 and 1967.

A huge 260ft section of the 50-year-old Morandi bridge gave way at about 11.30am on Tuesday causing vehicles to plummet 150ft with tonnes of twisted steel and concrete debris into a river below.

An investigation into negligent miscarriage and negligent homicide has been opened by Genoa Public Prosecutor's Office.

Investigations into the collapse, which happened during a storm, could now probe whether the initial build, or following maintenance, was carried out by corrupted firms, Canada's Globe and Mail reported.

Prosecutor Francesco Cozzi called the collapse "an immense and insane tragedy" as Italians call for justice.

This would not be the first time Mafia-run firms have been linked to disaster.

Franco Roberti, head of Italy's anti-Mafia directorate in 2016, said Italian authorities must ensure the Mafia plays no role in the reconstruction work of the towns destroyed by earthquakes which killed about 300 people because of their shoddy work.



'There are risks; it is useless to hide it,' he told Italy's La Repubblica newspaper.

'The risk of infiltration is always high. Postearthquake reconstruction is a tasty morsel for criminal organizations and business interests.'

It is not just mafia men who are being blamed but Government officials and businesses.

Italy's deputy premier, Luigi Di Maio accused the Benetton group, which through its £6million holding company Atlantia controls Autostrade Per Italia, of pocketing profits instead of investing money for maintenance.

Since the accident it has been revealed concerns were raised over the 1.2 kilometres long structure which forms part of the A10 highway.

Photos from under the 90 metres high build showed parts 'crumbling' into disrepair.

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there is a new video about the genova bridge collapse. From an Engineer who works for the Motorway Company .. He is asked whether the bridge could have been brought down with explosives and he says that at the moment .. for him it is more than a 50% possibility.


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CROLLO PONTE MORANDI: L'IPOTESI ATTENTATO DEL CONSULENTE PADOVANO
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PADOVA - Il crollo del ponte Morandi potrebbe essere stato voluto.
E' l'ipotesi avanzata dall'ingegnere padovano Enzo Siviero,
consulente per la Spea sulle possibili cause della tragedia di Genova.
- Intervistati: ENZO SIVIERO (Consulente Spea) - Servizio Filippo Fois, immagini Cristian Roque Allende, montaggio Cristian Roque Allende - Segui Antennatre anche sul digitale terrestre! Visita il sito www.antennatre.it per ulteriori informazioni.

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Morandi Bridge Collapse Simulation Genoa 2018 | BCB

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Simulation of the Morandi bridge collapsed in Genoa, Italy, in 2018, performed with the Bullet Constraints Builder (BCB) structural simulation software for Blender. The model was built from plans true to scale. Reinforcement information was estimated in part from photos of the destroyed bridge.

In order to narrow down the likely collapse scenario this video includes simulation results for different initial failure points. The characteristics of the debris heaps in comparison to reality often can provide an indication on what has probably happened.

Satellite image for comparison with results: https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-pu...

Simulated with BCB: https://github.com/KaiKostack/bullet-...
Together with FM: http://kaikostack.com/fracture
BCB blog: https://inachuslaurea.wordpress.com
This software is developed at the Laurea University of Applied Sciences, Finland. Written within the scope of EU Inachus FP7 Project (607522):
Technological and Methodological Solutions for Integrated Wide Area Situation Awareness and Survivor Localisation to Support Search and Rescue (USaR) Teams

Viadotto Polcevera (ponte Morandi) simulazione, Genova, Italia

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Italy risks clash with Britain and EU as it threatens to veto renewal of Russia sanctions
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During a visit to Moscow, Matteo Salvini said that Rome might block the renewal of sanctions that have been in place since 2014 
During a visit to Moscow, Matteo Salvini said that Rome might block the renewal of sanctions that have been in place since 2014
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17 OCTOBER 2018 • 8:22 PM
Italy put itself on a collision course with Britain and much of the EU on Wednesday after threatening to veto the renewal of sanctions against Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

During a visit to Moscow, Matteo Salvini, Italy’s staunchly pro-Moscow deputy prime minister, said that Rome might block the renewal of sanctions that have been in place since 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea.


The sanctions, which include the freezing of assets of individuals, an embargo on the export of weapons and financial restrictions, are due to expire in January.

Mr Salvini described sanctions against Russia “economic, social and cultural madness” and “an absurdity” that had cost Italian businesses “billions of euros”.

“If we are asked to confirm (the sanctions), we will say no,” Mr Salvini told a conference of business leaders in Moscow.

Asked if the coalition government, which came to power in June, might veto the renewal of EU sanctions, Mr Salvini said: “We can only use the trump card of the veto once in Europe.”

That was a reference to the Italian government’s numerous battles with Brussels, from demanding more help with migrants and refugees, to pushing through a controversial budget that revolves around lavish spending on social welfare and generous tax breaks which will cost debt-laden Italy billions of euros.

‘There is the question of the budget, the question of migration,” Mr Salvini said.

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Matteo Salvini stands next to a sniper rifle during an event involving the state police SWAT team in Rome CREDIT: REMO CASILLI/ REUTERS
“We are counting on the fact that they are intelligent enough in Brussels to understand that they have gone over the top and that you have to return to good relations between the EU, Italy and Russia.”

Italy has been opposed to sanctions against Moscow for years, arguing that they hurt Italian businesses which export hundreds of millions of euros’ worth of luxury goods, furniture, fashion, food and wine to Russians.


Mr Salvini, who is the head of the hard-Right Northern League as well as deputy prime minister and interior minister, is particularly pro-Moscow.

He said sanctions against Russia had resulted in “hundreds of millions of citizens and small and medium businessmen” paying a heavy price economically.

Underlining his affection for President Putin’s Russia, he said: “I feel at home in Russia in a way that I don’t in other European countries.”

In an apparent reference to NATO exercises in countries close to Russia, such as Poland and the Baltic republics, he said: “The problems of 2018 are to be solved sitting at a table – not with tanks at the borders.”

Mr Salvini, who has doubled his party’s support in the last few months with his stridently anti-migrant rhetoric, has previously said that the coalition is “not scared” of using its veto powers at Brussels in order to push the EU into lifting sanctions.

Giuseppe Conte, Italy’s prime minister, who is due to travel to Moscow next week to meet President Putin, has also criticised EU sanctions. He said they “damaged our companies, as well as Russian society.”

Italy’s soft line towards Russia entails the risk of it being isolated within the EU because Britain and other countries are pushing for punitive measures against Russia for its aggression in eastern Ukraine, alleged interference in elections – most recently in Macedonia - and poisoning of former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter in Salisbury in March.

Italy is the only member of the EU that openly resists a new regime of sanctions against Moscow, according to a confidential document seen by Reuters.

Italy’s attempt to weaken measures against Moscow are likely to be opposed by Britain and several Eastern European countries, which want to keep up the pressure on Mr Putin.

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