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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Does Alex Jones warp his editorial line to appease Zionists? Reply with quote

NEW AUDIO
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1841

Alex Jones & the Temple of Doom

The implosion of the 9/11 Truth Movement continues as Alex Jones
goes totally fruitloop on his radio show. Audio and analysis.

Plus: A claimed survivor of the London 7/7 Bus Bombing is pushing
a wild story on an Alex Jones broadcast a few days ago.

And: Why the 9/11 CoverUp Will Come Apart at the Seams

The 9/11-3i Investigation Resumes
"The Next Level" Internet Radio Show

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Hello all! I'd like to promote one conspiracy researcher calling another conspiracy researcher a fool! Thanks everyone!"

I'm sure there are some challenged people who worship the ground Alex Jones walks on: just as there are sure to be the same for Fintan Dunne: but I dont see Jones bothering to rubbish anyone else. Advice for Dunne to live up to perhaps

Meanwhile, adults understand that NONE of them are infallably right, and get on with making up their own minds

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but I dont see Jones bothering to rubbish anyone else


?!??!?!?!

Maybe he doesn't rubbish Fintan Dunne, but he rubbishes the 'ordinary' people. Or hadn't you noticed?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it Fintan Dunne who has been phoning in to Genesis this week and saying 'Cuckoo' and 'Fruitloop' repeatedly in a silly voice?!??!?!?! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but I dont see Jones bothering to rubbish anyone else


?!??!?!?!

Maybe he doesn't rubbish Fintan Dunne, but he rubbishes the 'ordinary' people. Or hadn't you noticed?


Nice admission Dunne is out to rubbish Jones Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man, didn't we go over this a few days back? Anyway, I listened to the show that someone posted, where he talks about his COINTEL list... yeesh.

You know the ONE point he lists for Alex Jones is the fact that he picked up the story about the exercises on 7/7 and because Channel 4 made a hit piece on it he supposes that this particular bit of information was planted specifically so the 100 + CIA truth websites would get all excited about it before a smack down... You've got to be kidding me.

Lets see: release proof that there was foreknowledge of the 7/7 targets, in an attempt to discredit the concurrent exercise issue on 9/11, which is not discreditable, its a fact and fully documented.. OR not release proof of foreknowledge on 7/7 don't drop the biggest smoking gun of the operation and don't discredit the untouchable evidence of 9/11 exercises.

Golly. Tricky one, that.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan first got excited about CIA-controlled sites because they weren't reporting that the court-appearing Saddam was a fake (correct in my opinion). Joe Vialls was the first to report this.
Then he lists the late joe's site as CIA-sponsored
Fintan's got a bit of a problem
Anyway I recognise fruitloop as a derogarotary definition from the likes of the snide aholes in places like Urban 75

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a new Audio Fallious, so no, it hasn't been discussed here before, even if it is part of the CIA Fakes investigation. You obviously didn't bother to check it out. Anyway, it will be very interesting to see how all this plays out. If I was a betting woman, I know where I'd be putting my money Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that show was 1000% nuttier than alex jones

it's pretty easy to see that jones is sincere. he is an effective and passionate activist and his ostensibly "nutty" moments represent his attempt to instill some urgency in fellow truthseekers and patriots.

jones is a NWO shill? that is nutty. so what if he expresses his own Christian views? he makes a clear distinction between the facts that come out in the news and his own perception, analysis and personal beliefs.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alexsandie wrote:
If I was a betting woman, I know where I'd be putting my money Cool


Possibly somewhere where there is a distinct absence of sunlight?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alexsandie wrote:
This is a new Audio Fallious, so no, it hasn't been discussed here before, even if it is part of the CIA Fakes investigation. You obviously didn't bother to check it out. Anyway, it will be very interesting to see how all this plays out. If I was a betting woman, I know where I'd be putting my money Cool


I'm aware that it's new audio, but I’m not particularly interested to listen to any more of it as the first show I listened to was a straight attack on sources that I’ve gathered masses of valuable information from over the years.

I don't need to be told that questionable information is released into the movement any more than you do. The reason we are part of this movement is because we have learned not to take information at face value, and that is true for every single truther on the planet, no exceptions possible. So why the need for these personal attacks?

With that in mind, this leaves me questioning how you are so sure of the claims made in this show that you would repeatedly distribute this information? I have no preference who I get my news and information from. Ultimately it's me who boils it down to a framework that is coherent with my world view, and I don't need Fintan Dunne to limit the sources available to me and make that process any more perilous than it already is.

My money is on truth.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My money is on sunlight and truth. You haven't even bothered to put your Fintan prejudices on one side and go listen to the Audio. You never know, you might be inspired. Perhaps the doom and gloom of Alan Watt and his ilk is more appealing to you. Lots of sunlight beaming out of Watty (yup, he's a right bright lightbulb Very Happy )
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look guys just ignore this nonsense.

Alex is a good researcher and has done emence work to wake people up and I like the guy, but sometimes he says things that piss me off and get up my nose and to be honest hes only human, he eats sleeps * and pisses just like you and I.

He said one thing that I agree with WHOLE HEARTEDLY!!

WE MUST REMAIN LEADERLESS, ORGANIC!

Only as a fluid, formless, leaderless movement of truth and justice can we accomplish anything.

The moment we start getting bogged down with this puny rediculous nonsense about what one guy said to another guy, thats when the COINTELPRO starts to work wonders for the NWO.

I continually get skeptical over the people who post this nonsense on these forums.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a joke?

You've edited together various clips of Alex Jones to make him look crazy.

and this proves?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mods what are you up to??

Why are you letting these people post *****g S*** all over the forum?

Alexandie get your negative, S**T stirring worthless junk off this site. You are NOT welcome here.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Alex Jones, Obachike and Peter Power Reply with quote

I am contributing here because it's hardly fair that alexsandie is subjected
to abuse, merely for posting information to the forum. If you wish to
disagree that's fair enough. Debate is good. But schoolyard bullying is not.

Alex Jones, Obachike and Peter Power

by Fintan Dunne, BreakForNews.com, 12th Feb 2007.

Let's get to the facts. There were two substantial aspects to my latest
broadcasts. First in relation to Daniel Obachike's claims to be a survivor of
the London 7/7 bus bombings and his appearance on the Alex Jones show
within 48 hrs. of my publishing an article critical of his story. Second as to
the role of Alex Jones as a purveyor of deliberately lame conspiracy
stories to spoil the pot for legitimate 9/11 truth seekers.


There is no proof that Daniel Obachike was aboard that bus. No photos of
him as the scene. No contemporaneous interviews with media -just one
many months later. And no substantiation from the fact that he supposedly
gave a statement seven months later to police --as we do not not the
detail of that statement.

His own account of events attempts to explain his absence from the
scene of the bus blast, by saying he jumped off the bus within seconds of
the bomb explosion and ran away Then he says he went to some hotel
with some lady to help get her some medical assistance. All conveniently
taking him away from the scene and explaining his absence from photos.

He says he saw a man with a camcorder filming the scene and was
suspicious. This in one of the most popular tourist destinations in the
world. He claims that police stood around doing nothing in the immediate
aftermath of the bomb blast. I don't believe him. He says a Mercedes and
a BMW blocked the bus earlier, with an impliciation this caused it's
diversion. Though he admits the diversion came five minutes later. He
says one of the drivers waved what may have been identification at a
police motorcyclist. Though he admits he did not see any identification. He
claims an injured man at the scene had fake injuries because he saw the
man at a point too far away to have been affected by the blast. Though
he himself admits he was not at the scene in the aftermath, so how would
he know where the man was originally.

Lacking any substantial merit to those claims, his website is padded out
with video of his apartment concierge, he claims. Audio of a police call to
him, he claims. And tales of harassment which extended to the security
services blocking him from getting employment and the police in the
street on point duty jeering him as he passed them. Amazing. Even the
bobbies in the street are in on the conspiracy, it seems.

It would be tempting to conclude that all this is merely some opportunist
cashing in on the bombings with a book. But I believe it's far worse. I
believe this is yet another deliberately 'flaky' conspiracy tale to smear
those with legitimate concerns about the genesis of the 7/7 attacks.

The Obachike story is on the Internet since last autumn, but it was within
48hrs. of my article pointing out some of the holes in the story that he
quickly appeared on the Alex Jones show. This would not be the first time
Jones has been involved in 'flaky' 7/7 conspiracy theory. There's a good
reason why.

The establishment had fears that journalists might suspect that all was not
right with the official 7/7 account. Even regardless of what reporters put
in print, what they talk about in private among themselves could be very
damaging. Especially as the security services in the U.K. hardly have a
pristine record on the issue of terrorism attacks.
(See Guilford Four,
Birmingham Six)

So it would be especially worthwhile for whomever carried out the
bombings to plant a spoiler story to put the media off the track and help
ridicule 'conspiracy theorists'. That is where Alex Jones and the issue of a
'terror drill' on the morning of 7/7 comes in. I believe this issue was
deliberately constructed as a booby-trap --well in advance.

The involvement of Peter Power is hardly coincidental. Indeed coincidence
and Peter Power seem to go hand in hand.

Quote:
The Pied Piper of the London Bombing

Listen Here: DSL Stereo or 56K mp3

by Kathy McMahon & Fintan Dunne, Editor
BreakForNews.com 1st August, 2005

http://static.flickr.com/21/30570040_a5e5964b8c_m.jpg

A BreakForNews.com investigation has uncovered that Peter Power of Visor Consultants was closely involved on the scene of two previous serious incidents on the London Underground, before being linked to a third -the latest attacks on 7/7, 2005.

The first was in 1984 and the second was in 1987. Both were fires. The latter was in King's Cross station and took over thirty lives. Power was the police scene commander at the fire. He now runs a private security consultancy, and is a former detective inspector in counter-terrorism.

Our investigation also shows that Power has a long-term close relationship with the current London Met Police chief, Sir Ian Blair. At the scene of the 1987 fire with Power, was detective inspector (at the time) Ian Blair. Power describes them as knowing each other very well......

http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/pied-piper-of-london-bombing.html


Our story focussed on Power's involvement with London Underground
incidents, but of course he was also deputy forward control coordinator
at the Libyan People Bureau siege.

Many people who express opinion on the terror drill issue lack all the
facts. We took care to research properly. But thanks to Jones, the tale of
the "thousand-person terror drill" has proven almost impossible to shake.
I don't believe this was an accident. I believe Power's first statement on
this was carefully constructed, to a word.

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Here's a transcript of the interview Power gave the BBC [our emphasis]:

POWER: "At half past nine this morning we were actually running an
exercise for a company of over a thousand people
in London based
on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it
happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck
standing up right now."

Alex Jones is Wrong on London Terror Drill
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/alex-jones-is-wrong-on-london-terr or.html


If that's an unfortunate turn of phrase it had the consequence that Alex
Jones was to then portray the comment as meaning a thousand people
were on the terror drill --rather than that the company for whom the
exercise was being conducted had a thousand employees.

Quote:
Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.

London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.h tm


I'm saying that because of the issue of the 9/11 drills, the planners of this
little misdirection knew that the 9/11 truth movement would swallow the
bait, --hook, line and sinker. And many did.

Later, in another TV interview [Video Mplayer] Power admitted that their
exercise also included mainline rail targets as well as the Underground.
His firm runs these terror seminars frequently. They are paper-based
exercises for clients of his corporate continuity business. He makes it
clear that he was working with a small crisis team in an office. And that's
the nature of these business continuity training sessions. They cover any
incident which could afffect business continuity: power cuts, violent
storms etc..

The reason I am deeply suspicious of Power's role is the difference
between the two interviews he gave that morning. The first -with that
"thousand people" comment and the second where he clarifies that it was
a small crisis team.

Listen carefully and note well the hesitation in the first interview by
Power when he gets to the part where he says "a company of over a
thousand people".

http://BreakForNews.com/audio/PeterPower77-Two-Interviews.mp3

"Because at half past nine this morning, we were actually running an
exercise for eh... over... eh... a company of a thousand people in London...

I think the hesitation was because Power knew he was supposed to say the words right and he fluffed it.


Anyway, with the bait taken, it didn't take long from a mainstream media
shark to move in for the kill.

Quote:
Mainstream Ridicules Visor Terror Drill Hype

Now you will see why two weeks ago I challenged the wild article by Alex Jones that a terror drill by UK security consultants, Visor had acted as a plausible deniability cover for those who carried out the 7/7 London bomb attacks.

I had known it was a setup from the start. These stories are deliberate false decoys designed to allow mainstream media to later ridicule 'conspiracy theories' which turn out to be untrue.

Predictably the U.K. TV Channel 4 is using the errors in Alex Jones' article to sneer at bloggers and alternative media. News reporter JJ King writes:

Quote:
Prison Planet, in an article entitled 'London Underground Bombing "Exercises" argued that the simulated attacks were, whether Power knew it or not, intended to act as a cover for the real ones. News agency Al Jazeera agreed, baldly asserting that 'The London Underground exercises were used as the fallback cover to carry out the attack.'


King then quotes my article debunking Jones (which I knew the mainstream probably would do, but I had to try prevent alternative media walking wholesale into the setup.)

Quote:
In fact, the 'exercises' he spoke of on Five Live were carried out purely 'on paper', or at least PowerPoint, by a small group of seven or eight executives..." As Fintan Dunne, editor of BreakForNews.com points out, 'these types of private-sector "risk management" drills never use field staff.


King goes on to damm bloggers as incompetent:

Quote:
In the light of a brief interview with Power, the 'unbelievable' coincidence of events suddenly seems entirely comprehensible: the train stations targeted, after all, were all in central London -- any planner would pick these amongst a list of possible targets.

'When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras,' goes the often-quoted popularisation of Occam's Razor. In the absence of journalistic nous, bloggers would do well to stick by it.


It's sickening to have the mainstream able to sneer like this. I know they do this all the time. But when they spend three pages like this on a carefully selected "conspiracy theory" --you know that we just goofed by giving them ammunition to portray themselves as guardians of reason. That's how the Jones over-the-top hype damages us.

Visor's eight-person, office-bound terror drill wasn't cover for the black op.

The story of the coincident drill was itself the decoy cover.


http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/mainstream-ridicules-visor-terror. html


That incorrect story by Jones about Power running a 1,000 person terror
drill as cover for the attacks has helped smear ongoing investigation of
the London Bombings. The mainstream has rubbished it -and who can
argue. The story was a disaster.

There is no way to defend Jones' assertion that an eight-person, on-paper
only, corporate management training session --was really a 1,000 person
terror drill with field staff in the Underground providing cover for the real
bombers.

It was a tinfoil hat story which damaged legitimate investigators and left
Peter Power well ringfenced against further media examination.

The latest 7/7 bus bombing interview by Jones is just more of the same.

I am saying that Peter Power colluded in a planned decoy story for the
7/7 attacks; that Obachike is a fake; and that Alex Jones is in direct and
proximate contact with the people behind all this.

Also Posted on BreakForNews.com at:
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14603#14603

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You think that posting comments like

"The implosion of the 9/11 Truth Movement continues"

Constitutes useful INFORMATION?????

Whatever Confused

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: evidence Reply with quote

Snowygrouch wrote:
You think that posting comments like

"The implosion of the 9/11 Truth Movement continues"

Constitutes useful INFORMATION?????

Well, some would consider it to be similar to "Capt. Smith... I believe we've hit an iceberg, and the taking on of water continues!"

I think that sentiment is correct - the Truth Movement is in serious peril, and it's the easily disproved charlatans who are the disablers. Take note of the OJ Simpson case, and note: it was not the Dream Team's careful strategy as much as it was the LAPD's screwups. Bad testimony and questionable witnesses will be the death of 9/11 if we don't get our act together, across the board.

I don't know enough about the 7/7 bombings to agree or disagree with the data in the post, but I plan to read up.

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I heartily agree with that as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares what Alex Jones or this Fintane fellow says?

What does it have to do with gouging the truth out of the real perps?

Why are we even on this issue day in day out.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Fintan. Of course nice to see all great campaigners here
Did you include this site as CIA-controlled?
There were so many, I can't remember

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all rubbish as far as I`m concerened. I havnt seen anyone "hitting an iceberg". I certainly havn`t and the huge sucess of the WR tour would also seem to back that up.

I really dont see where this "implosion" actually IS!

The issues of disinfo and infiltration have been here since day 1....I really dont see what cause there is for fuss (other than to say its pointless posting threads about this stuff).

It just seems strange to me as I`m on regular contact with several pivotal truth people on BOTH sides of the pond and I never hear of anything but progress and sucess.

Where you lot are finding hopelessness and self-pity from is quite beyond me. Then again I dont go out in active search of dissapointment so perhaps thats the answer isnt it?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan

Please can you post the evidence that you have on the CIA controlled sites? I downloaded your show that relates to them but it is corrupted.
Also, who is Alex Jones in direct and proximate contact with?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan Dunne wrote:
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(Daniel Obechike's) own account of events attempts to explain his absence from the scene of the bus blast, by saying he jumped off the bus within seconds of the bomb explosion and ran away ...
bit like the Bus Driver, George Psarabakis then, eh?

With only cuts and bruises, Mr Psarabakis climbed out of his cab and started helping to pull survivors from the wreckage of the double decker.

"I looked down at myself and saw that I was OK, then my next thought was to do something for the injured. I helped as many as I could off and kept going until my back went - it was agony. I really tried my hardest to get the victims off the bus - I really did."

After police cleared the area, fearing further explosions, Mr Psarabakis began walking west along streets crowded with commuters stranded outside Tube stations and unable to get to work.

Although he lives in Stoke Newington, in North London, he continued his journey west for seven miles and sought help only once he reached the Central Middlesex Hospital in Acton, West London, at about 10.50am. He was still wearing his blood-spattered uniform.

He was treated for shock and released at 2pm ....

Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article542188.ece

How the hell did George get from Tavistock Square to Acton, seven miles away, in under an hour? Especially as all Public Transport was at a standstill & the roads were gridlocked!

Have any 'Special Effects' experts taken a close look at the photographs of the bus yet? Roof blown clean off, all windows drop out, front destination panel blown out, yet at least 12 apparently unscathed survivors stand up on the top deck and make their way off the back of the bus!

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What flimsy evidence Dunne provides. So Alex Jones makes a mistake over the numbers involved in Powers drill? So what? The drills happened and the drill were going on on 9/11 too. There is also an ongoing drill about the bird flu in turkey nonsense too. I believe there was a drill going on in France or Bulgaria at the same time as their outbreaks.

The Dunne talks about the implosion of the movement and all the damage that has been done. What damage?ore and more people are hearing the truth and coming round to our way of thinking. Even the yellow press is putting in place damage limitation stories to cover themselves for not printing the truth originally. They know they are being found out.

Who is funding this unlikely looking Irishman anyway? Where has he come from? He tells us nothing about his background in his blog. Not even where he comes from in Ireland or what he used to do before he suddenly appeared on the airwaves of the internet. What Irish movements was he involved in? Ireland is a small place. He must be well known among the anti-war movement there, or is he?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

London Mick wrote:
What flimsy evidence Dunne provides. So Alex Jones makes a mistake over the numbers involved in Powers drill? So what? The drills happened and the drill were going on on 9/11 too. There is also an ongoing drill about the bird flu in turkey nonsense too. I believe there was a drill going on in France or Bulgaria at the same time as their outbreaks.

The Dunne talks about the implosion of the movement and all the damage that has been done. What damage?ore and more people are hearing the truth and coming round to our way of thinking. Even the yellow press is putting in place damage limitation stories to cover themselves for not printing the truth originally. They know they are being found out.

Who is funding this unlikely looking Irishman anyway? Where has he come from? He tells us nothing about his background in his blog. Not even where he comes from in Ireland or what he used to do before he suddenly appeared on the airwaves of the internet. What Irish movements was he involved in? Ireland is a small place. He must be well known among the anti-war movement there, or is he?


He is absolutely mistrusted by the only Irish 9/11 activist I know. Dunne has a radio show and keeps mentioning his sponsor 'something.com' (I forget the name) but when I went to this website it seemed to be some incongruous Korean company...(maybe I entered the wrong info, can anyone help)

On the show I listened to he made a big thing of mentioning his foreskin (the fact he had one) and also that he speaks the Gaelic language. He gave a fairly impressive demonstration of this but he might have been parroting the name of that town in Wales, for all I know.

Anyway, he attacks and tries to discredit everyone I admire so I know what I think his game is.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a more accurate Subject heading for this thread, instead of "Is Alex Jones losing the plot?" He was always going to. That was part of the plan.

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It just seems strange to me as I`m on regular contact with several pivotal truth people on BOTH sides of the pond and I never hear of anything but progress and sucess.

Where you lot are finding hopelessness and self-pity from is quite beyond me. Then again I dont go out in active search of dissapointment so perhaps thats the answer isnt it?


Snowy, Fintan Dunne's message is an extremely positive one. But there is only one way for you to find that out, and that is by listening to what he has to say. Please don't misrepresent his message with statements such as the above.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Previously on nineeleven I posted that this Obachike story is likely our version of 'the conversation in Hebrew'. I also posted (though no one seems to have noticed) an important point about Peter Power's comments on 7/7. In a nutshell..

I knew 7/7 was staged immediately of course. I heard Peter Power on 5-live and could not believe my ears - in fact we rushed a DnB tune out using the 5-live interview as audio sample, so striking was the content.

At the time I thought Power had blundered onto the radio to plug how good his company was at reacting to the event. Provoked into re-examining Power's comments, I realised that the 'over a thousand people' comment, forcefully added to both the radio and TV interviews he did (in which he said the same things), was significant. I just checked - Verint had 1200 employees in 2005. He also said we moved from slow time to quick time when we realised it was the real thing. The only company in a position to do this was Verint. So were Verint the company running simulated exercises that turned into the real thing?

Looks like Power was deliberately trying to tell us something. Ask yourself - why did he quickly go on the radio and TV on the day to spill the beans about the exercise? Before he could he told to shut up?

Precisely

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject: Controlled Demolition Reply with quote

Peter Power is hardcore UK-ATB: Anti-terrorism branch.

I agree Power was trying to tell us something.
Or rather trying to sell us something.

A herring. Red in color: 'terror drill'

Peter Power is not dumb.

I should clear up this issue of the the 9/11 Truth implosion mentioned in
the intro text for the latest audio. The intro was meant for regular readers
and listeners to BreakForNews. It's a shorthand for the longer expression
coined on the fourm there:

"The Controled Demolition of the 9/11 Truth Movement"

That's a term with special significance to US listeners and readers who
are well aware what it means. So I appreciate folks in the UK did not
get the reference.

The 9/11 perps gameplan all along has been to implode the major US
websites and personalities cheerleading the 9/11 Truth issue --exactly
around the time that the GOP and GWB sufffered their electoral
defeat at the hands of the Democrats. Their plan is that the 'Oomph'
will go out of US resistance and activism because they no longer feel
they have to fight tooth and nail to defeat Bush and the Neocons.

And with that dynamic in play, they are dismantling these fake 9/11
websites and personalities coincident with that electoral defeat.

In recent months we have seen the departure of leading CIA Fakes, as I
have termed them. First Mike Ruppert of From the Wilderness, who is ill
allegedly/apparently; then Lisa Guiliani and Victor Thorn of Wing TV threw
in the towel; then the big falling out in the ST911 Scholars for 9/11 Truth;
then in recent weeks Republic Broadcasting Network collapsed.

To US 9/11 Truth followers these were significant players on the 9/11
issue. All of this has been staged in the hope of disillusioning those who
want the truth to come out. And, as I say, the perps hope is that the
whole drive for truth will implode.

The long term gameplan is to have the 9/11 issue fade away, with the
lingering suspicion that Bush, the hardcore US Military Industrial Complex
and the Neocons were responsible for 9/11. With them gone from the
scene, then the perps figure nobody would care enough any more.

Of course, these suspects are the prearranged hate figures for 9/11.

In truth it was a G8 operation, and is being covered up by the combined
intelligence services of the G8 nations. As you well know, the London 7/7
bombings took place right in the middle of the G8 Summit --giving the
G8 leaders the perfect platform to denounce the very terrorism they are
orchestrating. All part of the G8 New World Order ---a thinly disguised
attack on civil liberties in the G8 nations themselves and part of a plan
to dominate the emerging global economy.

The US powerbroker in all this is George Bush Senior. Junior is merely
his idiot son whose job it is to take the heat. Thus the relentless focus
on GWB and hence his planned defeat at the hands of the Democrats.
The Democratic elite (Clintons and Kerry et. al.) are working with Bush
Snr. and so the G8 could care less whether the Dems or GOP are in
power. The end result is always the same.

The current profile of the 9/11 issue in the UK is only to reinforce the
vague suspicion that Bush Jr. and the Neocons might have done it. That's
what the G8 want the sheeple to think. After a few more weeks of this the
isssue will be dropped entirely and you won't hear another word about
the whole thing from the controlled media. Period.

The 9/11 issue is to be a footnote in history.

That's their plan anyway, so it's up to ordinary activists to make sure
this does not succeed. Especially in the next few months. However, the
perps have a big Bird Flu thing in mind to keep the people otherwise
occupied - so watch out for that one.

In reply to posts above:

Background on me is at http://FintanDunne.com

The evidence about the CIA Fakes is here:
http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm

and most recently here:

Uncovered: The Rat's Nest of 9/11
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26

There's a lot of it. About three or fours years of in depth investigation.
But you could summarize it like this: The 9/11 perps came up with
a better idea than trying to fight the 9/11 Movement. Long before
they pulled off the Op they determined that they would not fight
the 9/11 Truth Movement.

They would ensure success by BEING the 9/11 Truth Movement.

Think about it. Then act to defeat them. I am.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been obvious for sometime that the 911 truth movement was in place in time for 911. Making predictions is difficult - especially about the future, yet Alex Jones 'knew' that 911 was coming.

Maybe a lucky guess, but how can we know?

To defuse this 'who's a truther and who's a shill' meme that is using up valuable time and energy I suggest we unite behind evidence that no-one can deny and form a mutually agreed case. No thermite. No beam weapons. Nothing open to debate, only facts, starting with a short list of irrefutible single events, moving on to scientific proofs and statistical analysis of 'coincidences'.

Examples of things we know (or at least I THINK we know)

Bush said he saw the first plane hit the tower (Twice -I have audio of this)

3 of the 5 dancing Israelis appeared on TV and admitted they were there on 911 to document the event. They were arrested with Arab clothing in their van. (Video evidence plus NYT report.)

Our Gov produced false witnesses testimony to the Luton train journey (train they were supposedly on was delayed/cancelled)

Not included would be unproven hypotheses.

We have a global problem here, not just G8. The scope of the control stems from whoever controls the supply (printing or counterfieting) of money.

Now - has anyone got a better idea?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Controlled Demolition Reply with quote

FintanDunne wrote:
Peter Power is hardcore UK-ATB: Anti-terrorism branch.

I agree Power was trying to tell us something.
Or rather trying to sell us something.

A herring. Red in color: 'terror drill'

Peter Power is not dumb.


Are you saying there was NO terror drill? Why did he lay down a clue leading to Verint?

The G8 members are. United States of America; France; Russian Federation; United Kingdom; Germany; Japan; Italy; Canada

And yet..

Both 911 and 7/7 public transport was involved
In both cases we have Israeli security companies
In both cases CCTV is not working

Michael Chertoff (Israeli-US) is Homeland Security supremo
Rabbi Dov Zakheim (Israeli-US) mislaid 2.3T dollars from the Pentagon
No Israelis got caught in the Towers and reports of warnings appear even in Haaretz (Netenyahu 7/7, Odigo 911)

There were Israeli agents on at least 2 of the flights of 911
One of the hijackers reportedly had an Israeli accent
200 Israeli spies were arrested in the US
Israelis were caught trying to blow up the Mexican parliament just after 911

etc.

No CCTV cameras working @ Logan or Tube, yet Bush gets live feed of first plane hit? G8? Or G9? Speaking of which...

My idea for a UNIFIED EVIDENCE THEORY (atually not a theory - evidence facts) has a handle

G911

So far there's only me. But you, Fintan, or someone like you, could unite the 'movement' behind - not a leader- but a set of EVIDENCE. Excluding all the doubtful or merely likely stuff so that no-one can refute or call the document flawed.

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