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by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:59 pm
Forum: General
Topic: So, you just watched the BBC 9/11 doc?
Replies: 129
Views: 45382

Quote from article:"In cool, measured tones it steadily dismantles the Loose Change conspiracy theory until there's nothing left to see besides a slightly snotty young director and a few unhinged talking heads. No rational person could watch this and come away thinking otherwise." Oh Charl...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:51 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Welcoming the newcomers
Replies: 34
Views: 9779

Hi Ian Thanks for the comment in the other thread (fred...), didn't want to say thanks on that one and give them the exposure. Ever wish you hadn't started something? Although I've lurked here for quite a while I don't use forums, so if I c*ck-up or use the wrong sort of smilie feel free to let me k...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:32 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Fred Jones 11 Ref your recent comments
Replies: 2
Views: 1683

Re: Fred Jones 11 Ref your recent comments

[quote="Integritas"]If its recognition you desire you have certainly achieved it. I am an athiest FJ: Of course you are :lol: and rabbiting on about needing a book (presumably you mean the bible)" FJ: Nope, all of 'em, doesn't matter which. It's interesting that you assumed the bible ...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:03 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Welcoming the newcomers
Replies: 34
Views: 9779

People will be suspicious of you Fred because you only joined a couple of days ago and made nearly 50 posts Yep, makes sense, but until this morning 21/02/2007 I'd only made 2 or 3 posts!. It's shot up today cause I'm housebound at the moment, and this post was made days ago. Still think it's a bit...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:50 pm
Forum: General
Topic: So, you just watched the BBC 9/11 doc?
Replies: 129
Views: 45382

numeral wrote:
rodin wrote:Fred. You talk sense.
yes. Non-sense.
Just standing up for my beliefs, I'm sure you can understand that :wink:
Shame they weren't written in a book by somebody else and given to me, I'd get a bit of respect and could call on mods to silence any dissenters.
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:05 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

I started this thread light heartedly this morning in the hope of compiling enough evidence for a case. I'm afraid that, at the moment, it may put people off researching (I'm quite depressed by it). I suggest, at the moment, we let it rest until some more evidence emerges (as I'm sure it will). With...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:50 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

[quote="Leiff"]How about if demolition at WTC could be proved with seismic events, molten metal analysis and ear/eyewitness testimony, then could those responsible for the security be forced to testify under oath and provide further leads? There is a call to release all the evidence from h...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:32 pm
Forum: General
Topic: So, you just watched the BBC 9/11 doc?
Replies: 129
Views: 45382

Re: Fred Jones 11 Ref your recent comments

How skillfully you divide,when unity is called for. The facts & the truth remain constant. You would be better off posting your comments on a New World Order site. Cheers for the recognition at last!. Ya know, it's not easy dividing my time between stroking my white cat and running my lair in t...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:10 pm
Forum: Strategy Of Tension, False Flag Terror, 9/11 & 7/7 Truth & WWIII News
Topic: Israeli connections to 911
Replies: 70
Views: 50443

Another thing, I'm a Christian, a Catholic, could we have a bit less of the anti-Christianite hate talk on this forum? Or facts as they are otherwise known. I was reasonable in the extreme in the other thread but you still tried the racist card. Quote "Funny how these characters never dare to ...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:03 pm
Forum: General
Topic: So, you just watched the BBC 9/11 doc?
Replies: 129
Views: 45382

Funny how these characters never dare to attack the organised followers of the religion of Islam or Judaism, innit? Attack!!?? And I've deliberately said "organised religions". If Alex Jones et all were muslims (or any organised religion) then I would have said that. They are all the same...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:49 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

Another point worth making is this: Through Sunday nights psyop program they've already admitted a conspiracy AFTER the event. Most of the evidence so far is regarding acts they've essentially admitted to, after the event. If you can't prove intent before the event your screwed. So what do we have t...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:25 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

1: Diesel (I know, I know) 2: Doesn't prove collusion, just suspicious. £: Rodriguez is 1 man, firefighters said "like" bombs. FJ 1st let me say again that you are right in what you say, just not enough for a case. 1. Diesel wouldn't cause a symmetrical collapse. Wouldn't burn evenly thro...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:18 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

CEO of Odigo on record stating that staff received email warning of 9/11 Unless he has physical proof that is date verified it's no more valid than the kids nearby saying it was being talked about "weeks before". And then it only proves that somebody was paranoid enough to warn him, I've ...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:58 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

3:Bush has already said that mohamed atta placed bombs above a certain floor, so that excuse is in place. (no shame) Bush hasn't said any such thing. He made a reference to terrorists placing bombs in high buildings. He did not mention Atta. He did not mention the WTC. My mistake, should have looke...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:57 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

CEO of Odigo on record stating that staff received email warning of 9/11 Reports of eye witness seeing tail number N591UA of UA93 still in use after 9/11 Steven Jones Thermite / Thermate residues. ST911 Seismic evidence of explosions before WTC impact. AA77 & AA11 missing flight data on BTS dat...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:42 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

CEO of Odigo on record stating that staff received email warning of 9/11 Unless he has physical proof that is date verified it's no more valid than the kids nearby saying it was being talked about "weeks before". And then it only proves that somebody was paranoid enough to warn him, I've ...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:20 pm
Forum: Strategy Of Tension, False Flag Terror, 9/11 & 7/7 Truth & WWIII News
Topic: Israeli connections to 911
Replies: 70
Views: 50443

Why is it "the jews", not a group of people who happen to be jewish?
If it turns out to be bush are we gonna blame "the whites"
Or if it's Colin Powell......
This seems so childish as to be insulting.
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:03 pm
Forum: General
Topic: So, you just watched the BBC 9/11 doc?
Replies: 129
Views: 45382

quote :"Where does this reasoning end other than we're all suspect in some way, religious or not ? FJ:Are you intentionally repeating evidence that has been proved false? if so then yes, you are suspected religious or not." Sorry Mark, that was an arrogant answer to a genuine question. So ...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:56 pm
Forum: General
Topic: So, you just watched the BBC 9/11 doc?
Replies: 129
Views: 45382

Personally I do not see what someone's religious beliefs have to do with their position on 9/11. FJ: re-read the thread. If you are going to question the mental health or any other psychological characteristic of someone who takes position a or b on 9/11 then should we include all Arsenal fans who ...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:41 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

How about a confession of being 'there to document the event' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcON2XbFR3I&NR http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html Does that strike you as evidence? re 7/7 How about witness statments from passengers on the train the 4 bombers took from Luton-London....
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:23 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

quote: "disputed? you can't dispute the laws of conservation of momentum, gravity etc. these are foundational laws of physics and therefore the sort of principles even a child can grasp. you don't get more concrete than that. good luck wasting your time Smile" True, but if you read the ini...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:17 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

It was only an anecdotal suggestion in first draft sarky ! Sorry :oops: It still doesn't prove that they were involved in planning, just coverup which can be justified. (Our enemy managed to get a missile near the pentagon!!) We really need stuff that can be proved without any further evidence, as ...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:54 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

[/quote] Their missile defence system failed to intercept an 'Al Quaeda missile' or an 'Al Quaeda hijacked boeing 757', which is the most embarassing?[/quote] Embarassment requires a sense of shame. The government is not a person. No sense of shame. (common mistake) The point I was (and am) tryin to...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:31 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

[/quote] It was only an anecdotal suggestion in first draft sarky ! Sorry :oops: It still doesn't prove that they were involved in planning, just coverup which can be justified. (Our enemy managed to get a missile near the pentagon!!) We really need stuff that can be proved without any further evide...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:03 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

Someone on webcameron claimed that the petrol station and Sheraton Hotel CCTV footage of whatever hit the pentagon 911 has been released in the past 2 weeks under US FOI...and guess what? though they were grainy images they clearly showed NO Boeing 757 crashing into the said defence facility! Surel...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:51 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

1. The collapse of WTC 7. Not a raging inferno. Symmetrical collapse. Near freefall speed. 2. Initial pictures of Pentagon. No physical sign of the impact of engines, wings or tail section. The apparent bunny-hop over the cable spools on the lawn. (Forget about hole size etc.) 3. Explosions inside ...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:39 pm
Forum: General
Topic: So, you just watched the BBC 9/11 doc?
Replies: 129
Views: 45382

Thanks KBO, I've been a bit thoughtless in how I aproached this thread, but my heart was in the right place. I believe 100% in the principals of christianity and the underlying message, just not in how they've been applied by greedy smart people in the past and to this day. As for Dunne and co they ...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:24 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

Can we PROVE that they fell at freefall?, if so then it's a good un. We can go to the NIST report and take the official time of collapse of the South Tower........9 seconds (obviously an estimation, but it is THEIRS) The height of the South Tower was 417 metres. Using g=9.81 ms2 and the standard fo...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:57 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

how about any of the 11 features of controlled demolition that would occur if, and only if, controlled demolition occured? 1. Sudden Onset 2. Straight Down 3. Almost free-fall speed 4. Total collapse 5. Sliced Steel 6. Pulverization of concrete and other materials 7. Dust clouds 8. Horizontal Eject...
by Fred Jones II
Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:48 pm
Forum: Campaigning
Topic: ideas for a top three proveable crimes, suggestions please
Replies: 63
Views: 16240

On the 18 September 2001 Christie Whitman said. "Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C. that their air is safe to breath and their water is safe to drink." A lie causing the illness and premature death of thousands ...