9/11, 7/7, Covid-1984 & the War on Freedom

TonyGosling wrote:More deliberate provocation.
Plain fact is that people have lives to get on with & don't have time to probe every conspiracy theory to see whether or not it is true.

so does that mean that 9/11 truthers have no lives to be getting on with? That sure seems to be your implication!

'Wakey' was right; make copies of DVD's and leaflets, and get them out to people. The few converts you make will be well worth the effort, and you'll feel more at ease with yourself, because you haven't just given up. converts to what? what are they converting to? you make it sound like its a clear...

well said wakey and the fact that defector posted this in the news section shows attention seeking not exactly honourable intentions as with iro the other day and the rest of the western media your role now appears to be to attempt to bring the determined of us down into your well of dispirit &...

okay so you didn't notice this summer's Richard Gage UK tour nope, didnt notice it ..and it doesnt detract from the point that this movement is in decline inexorably... basically talking to itself over and over I'm not here to look for new avenues of campaigning - but to see if people who believ in...

Is there anyone here who thinks it is worth pursuing 9/11 truth any more? 10th anniversary coming up... infighting and silly antics have derailed any chance of this movement ever having a critical coordinated mass.. The case has been publicly made yet the case has not stuck. so what next? Give up? M...

Of course calling him and others out on all his stuff got me tossed off the 911truth gravy train, but I don't eat dog food made on the blood of truth anyway. thats a great line! so painfully true, and a conclusion i came to within days of getting just a little involved in the uk 9/11 movement and f...

he's a legend. we should be glad that people like him epitomise politics in this age.
makes our work so much easier.

tony, this happened to me a long time ago too - no charges ever brought, and to this day the b*stards still have my stuff.

hope you get your bits back.

theres nothing 'postmodern' about obama the man or his politics - im confused at the title

what im saying is there are levels of existence im prepared to experience and there are levels im not. If i need to move on to the next life - i only see it like rebooting a computer game where you've * it up and need to start again. No big deal (to me) I dont claim to speak for others however. i th...

ok, save giving me a lecture and address the realistic point i made. if people are hungry they will take food - if such a town is offering a renewable supply of it - its a target. How does such a town propose to defend itself? Ideology is nothing without realism (or pessimism as blind idealists call...

it went round the chemtrail internet places a while ago - quite a while ago.
its a very bad job. the red writing on the right is clearly photoshopped in on top and not part of the original image.

this kind of thing is total disinfo - a total joke.

dont play then

solution.

if peak oil happens and people go hungry, things get desperate, crime goes mad and law and order breaks down or splinters then all a TT or similar self sustaining agricultural community is going to be is a big fat target mad max style for any hungry or opportunistic persons to descend upon and take ...

Sorcha Faal is full of sh*t. He writes misinformation articles. Google him if you don't believe me. His real name is David Booth. Beware of anything he writes. It's pure fiction. the guy is a comedy workshop, i cant even remember how many times i read extremely far fetched stuff on his site about m...

Sorcha Faal

...thats where i stopped reading

Noam Chomsky exposed: Kevin Barrett posts email exchange in his newsletter: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=118733#118733 what a total idiot Barrett is shame on him. its ironic that the 9/11 truth movement and its clearly endemic ugly disposition has led me to respecting chomsky a...

i'd like to challenge pikey to use a non footballing analogy once in his forum life.

These stupid ads might not be a big deal..... ......but it not a matter of ideology it is a matter of integrity. I also like to say that I don't appreciate being called 'irrational' for objecting to the fact that MI6 are sponsoring this effing site. I'm outa here. Goodbye. typical nut-job overreact...

Newspeak International wrote: No more Britain from 1st of January 2009

So what?

i dont see any difference in one elite creation and another

Hi, everyone. After a mental 2 week saga with our hosts being incompetent in the extreme (i know you guys know the feeling!) we managed to move the database of illusions to a new host and URL. for a while we thought the server mes up had corrupted the database and we had lost it all.... but its all ...

to tie up the postmodern aspect of this debate - there is a fine post here on the issue for those who want to read further

http://illusionsforum.net/phpbb3/viewto ... f=40&t=410

When Gallileo said that the world was round and everyone else on earth who had a view on the matter believed it to be flat........did this universal disagreement to his position make him wrong? .....Yes or no? he is right for now, but can you say with 100% certainty that in 500 years people wont be...

landless peasant wrote:Your talking about truth in a philosophical sense ie: truth is illusion ? There are levels of truth. I guess your right its egotistical but all thought is..

bang!

by jove he gets it.

holding on to a truth that you believe in is egocentric. accepting the possibility that your truth (and we all have them) might be contested or wrong is not egocentric, its a very progressive state of mind and there is nothing elite about it :roll: I accept most people on here have a fixed concept o...

i just caught your reply before i knock off for the night... fair enough, sometimes the questioning of truth itself is too much for a person to bother with. 'Enough already' is the same defence mechanism the man on the street uses when you shove a copy of loose change in his hand. questioning the na...

you have an honours degree i physics, congratulations for doing that. Did you never come across relativism whilst doing that? ... or the infinite regress of justification? ..turtles all the way down? im taking a postmodern point of view here, an anti-foundationalist stance, as after all this movemen...

false in your opinion, that is my point.

there is no truth in what you say if i do not believe it, and vice versa, multiplied by 6.4 billion

you mention the free fall speed and data that can be interpreted.... interpreted by whom and for whom in whom's opinion? if the WTC collapse was so scientifically obvious no one would need to make DVDs about it or campaign on it. Truth is, even most experts (fact) believe the official lie. What doe...

you mention the free fall speed and data that can be interpreted.... interpreted by whom and for whom in whom's opinion? if the WTC collapse was so scientifically obvious no one would need to make DVDs about it or campaign on it. Truth is, even most experts (fact) believe the official lie. What does...