US: Is Ron Paul in with a fighting chance?

[festival of snickers]

the federal reserve came about about 90 years ago

maybe 50% or less of Americans know its weird
congress put it in place and few congress people are running to reverse it all -i doubt that anyway
so ron paul alone is going to save us ? get real

the people need to elect some good congress people

i guess they're afraid to speak out against stuff

i think alex jones exaggerates or i just cant bear to hear it all and think its all so hopeless

but to tell you the truth ron paul doesn't come off as someone who even wants to win because he preaches against social programs -true maybe americans are too addicted to handouts but i dont know if ill vote for him

he doesn't have total power anyway -congress does or should or a lot of power

you seem so hopeless - i think there will be a real election in 08 unless if the computers change votes

usa is a country hit by fires floods tornadoes hurricanes and they want some help
ron paul said no no no no no no no

he will not win!! i doubt it

[festival of snickers]

did you know usa has the worst weather on the planet?

The Plains have a wondrous, savage beauty, but you have to take the time to let it get in your bones, to feel a little bit of the haunt and tease and risk of the land. In some respects, it has the worst weather in the world — tornadoes, whiteout blizzards, flash floods, soul-sapping heat waves. But it's lovely, in its way, especially in the early part of the day before the wind kicks up. I also like the drama of the land — the thunderstorms that come out of nowhere, the sky the stretches to infinity, the sense of being alone, even lost in the eternity of the flatness.

http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/rea ... orst.shtml


we build buildings better or have cars to drive away in ,thats why we survive more so than Bangladesh

ron paul offers nothing to suffering or homeless
its laughable 4% think he will win

i doubt if he will

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00966.html

Last year, Congress decided to send billions of dollars to victims of Hurricane Katrina. Guess how Ron Paul voted.

"Is bailing out people that chose to live on the coastline a proper function of the federal government?" he asks. "Why do people in Arizona have to be robbed in order to support the people on the coast?"

this picture of him just emits charisma

run ,ronny run!!waste all that money -see what i care

libertarians are losers!

[GazeboflossUK]

Ron Paul 2008!!

[festival of snickers]

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_des_ ... selzer.php

ronpaul gets 7 percent of vote they say

in general election 4 % will still vote for him and 3% or more will vote democrat just as i predicted

what percent of the people donate to polititcal causes anyway?

if people want to stop the federal reserve system theyll need to elect some new congress people and have candidiate that believes in things Americans want

thats my opinion anyway

[festival of snickers]

this amica insurance ad makes me sick on usa tv with that woman on it

i bet insurance people would like ron paul

oh sure buy insurance and dont let the government help

then insurance refuses to pay up
its all sick

[TmcMistress]

Check it out - if you ever get a 2008 election,

This presumes that we get elections at all, anytime. These clowns have already been handpicked.

[festival of snickers]

damn computer here is so slow or some virus

bob bowman ran in Florida for senate and i think hes running again

he didnt raise even 10% of what other guy did and yet got almost enough votes
stop being so god damned negative

stop blaming the media for everything

http://www.rmbowman.com/

[festival of snickers]

MONDAY - DECEMBER 17:

Former Assistant Secretary of State ALAN KEYES, Ph.D., discusses his bid in this 2008 presidential election and the top critical issues facing America today. Dr. Keyes welcomes your comment and support.
To Speak with Dr. Keyes LIVE on the air call toll free: 1 800 259 9231
Website: http://www.alankeyes.com

http://www.thepowerhour.com/schedule.htm

looks like wacky alan wont vote for ron

hes on joyce riley show

[karlos]

Presidential hopeful Ron Paul's supporters raise over $6 million in a single day to drastically boost the Texan's White House campaign.

More than 30,000 donors joined the 24-hour 'Money Bomb' on Sunday to set a breakthrough in Paul's fourth-quarter fundraising, which has now surpassed $18.1 million.

"Americans are rallying to Dr. Paul's message, and showing that they want a government that respects their rights and protects their freedom," said Lew Moore, the 72-year-old Paul's campaign manager.

With over 100,000 people, including 11,580 'new' donors, Congressman Ron Paul's campaign is now strategically in the strongest position to win the GOP candidacy.

Political observers believe the fact that Paul's campaign is not even organizing events, such as Sunday's 'Money Bomb', is an indicator of how popular the idea of the peaceful libertarian is becoming.

[TmcMistress]

bob bowman ran in Florida for senate and i think hes running again

Huzzah for him.

he didnt raise even 10% of what other guy did and yet got almost enough votes

'Close' only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

stop being so god damned negative

No. Cynicism is a by-product of this society, and I will be as negative as I please. You go ahead and get back to me when Bowman wins his Senate race, ok? And in a few years, when his rebel campaign has changed the world and made everything puppies and rainbows and free cars for all, then we'll talk.

stop blaming the media for everything

When did I do that? The media is lazy and worthless, for certain, but I've never said they're the root cause of all things evil.
[/quote]

[blackcat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G65rqf3gI3Y

Rudy Ghouliani drowned in Ron Paul support in Marietta, GA - 8 minute video

[blackcat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkltetQ0x4

Ron Paul on Fox - two minute video

[festival of snickers]

bob bowman ran in Florida for senate and i think hes running again

Huzzah for him.

he didnt raise even 10% of what other guy did and yet got almost enough votes

'Close' only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

stop being so god damned negative

No. Cynicism is a by-product of this society, and I will be as negative as I please. You go ahead and get back to me when Bowman wins his Senate race, ok? And in a few years, when his rebel campaign has changed the world and made everything puppies and rainbows and free cars for all, then we'll talk.

stop blaming the media for everything

When did I do that? The media is lazy and worthless, for certain, but I've never said they're the root cause of all things evil.

[/quote]


you sound you dont know who bob bowman is

40% of the vote is still a lot


http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/for ... uspect.htm

but i dont see how he blames cheny or usa government

[blackcat]

Ron Paul on Glenn Beck YouTube

1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pme20JHPkwk
2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y4j4m90-XM
3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNjnvp5z6kM
4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGrlZTlD-Sc
5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF_92PpCyUs
6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnm1nPHdATQ
7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD1qMXMOjfo
8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kze69_lmGmA

[Thermate911]

Maybe I got out of bed the wrong side today but I have totally had it with this Ron Paul adoration stuff.

Don't get me wrong - this man speaks plain truth in a surrounding ocean of lies but what do really expect one man to do? How do you think he will overcome an entrenched, utterly corrupt, Senate and House? Even if he survives physically, his term would be one long and increasingly bitter struggle against a global plutarchy.

NO - for their own near-term well-being all Ron Paul supporters must themselves become Ron Pauls! Remember Gandhi? 'Be the change you wish to see in the world'. That means not just forking out mountains of cash to squander on the utterly bought-out MSM but actually grappling with those who have brought your country to its knees. Running against them to sweep Washington clean. Closing down the Beltway coke scene by bringing the war on drugs right home to the central users. Closing down the alphabet soup of spook agencies, including the FBI...

See what I mean? Freedom - you either use it or loose it and you've nearly lost it already. Stop pinning your fantasies on November 2008 (how easy it is for the plutarchy to divert your attention from the squalid NOW and put you all back in hopes and dreams land!); start acting now before you're Tasered into submission to the most vile fascist state mankind is ever likely to experience.

RON PAUL 2008?

NO !

AMERICAN PEOPLE not Fascists 2008!

[Alex_V]

Ron Paul on Glenn Beck YouTube

Note that once again Paul totally denies any involvement with or belief that 9/11 was an inside job. He clearly refutes those claims, and actually says he hasn't heard of some of them, and is embarrassed to even be asked the question.

I have a lot of time for Ron Paul - he seems like a good influence on mainstream politics and I hope he does well with his campaign. I think all he is guilty of is a naivety in terms of not realising what message it sends out when he appears on Alex Jones' show...

[GazeboflossUK]

Whether Ron Paul is aware of the real 9/11 Truth issues or not - mentioning anything to do with 9/11 Truth would quickly cut his campaigns success in half.

Plus - we don't know and no body can surely know what his true stance is exactly - dispite what he says publicly.

All I know is that he is one man willing to look at information and say what he thinks without worrying about which fat cat he's going piss off....

[festival of snickers]

Maybe I got out of bed the wrong side today but I have totally had it with this Ron Paul adoration stuff.

Don't get me wrong - this man speaks plain truth in a surrounding ocean of lies but what do really expect one man to do? How do you think he will overcome an entrenched, utterly corrupt, Senate and House? Even if he survives physically, his term would be one long and increasingly bitter struggle against a global plutarchy.

NO - for their own near-term well-being all Ron Paul supporters must themselves become Ron Pauls! Remember Gandhi? 'Be the change you wish to see in the world'. That means not just forking out mountains of cash to squander on the utterly bought-out MSM but actually grappling with those who have brought your country to its knees. Running against them to sweep Washington clean. Closing down the Beltway coke scene by bringing the war on drugs right home to the central users. Closing down the alphabet soup of spook agencies, including the FBI...

See what I mean? Freedom - you either use it or loose it and you've nearly lost it already. Stop pinning your fantasies on November 2008 (how easy it is for the plutarchy to divert your attention from the squalid NOW and put you all back in hopes and dreams land!); start acting now before you're Tasered into submission to the most vile fascist state mankind is ever likely to experience.

RON PAUL 2008?

NO !

AMERICAN PEOPLE not Fascists 2008!

what do you expect from usa,the culture of fast food and instant gratification??

theyre always looking for some "leader" but few want to run for congress

money for campaigns? doesnt mean a thing to me

ill vote out any damn incumbent i suppose in the primary and i lean toward republicans because they want to stop illegal aliens and yet is that the most important issue ? it could be

[Disco_Destroyer]

http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=207908

Those media generated polls are as valuable as the media propaganda that pushed the nation to war in Iraq. People should have as much faith in polls as they do the Easter Bunny and computerized voting. Ron Paul is going to win by a landslide.

[Disco_Destroyer]

Maybe I got out of bed the wrong side today but I have totally had it with this Ron Paul adoration stuff.

Don't get me wrong - this man speaks plain truth in a surrounding ocean of lies but what do really expect one man to do? How do you think he will overcome an entrenched, utterly corrupt, Senate and House? Even if he survives physically, his term would be one long and increasingly bitter struggle against a global plutarchy.

NO - for their own near-term well-being all Ron Paul supporters must themselves become Ron Pauls! Remember Gandhi? 'Be the change you wish to see in the world'. That means not just forking out mountains of cash to squander on the utterly bought-out MSM but actually grappling with those who have brought your country to its knees. Running against them to sweep Washington clean. Closing down the Beltway coke scene by bringing the war on drugs right home to the central users. Closing down the alphabet soup of spook agencies, including the FBI...

See what I mean? Freedom - you either use it or loose it and you've nearly lost it already. Stop pinning your fantasies on November 2008 (how easy it is for the plutarchy to divert your attention from the squalid NOW and put you all back in hopes and dreams land!); start acting now before you're Tasered into submission to the most vile fascist state mankind is ever likely to experience.

RON PAUL 2008?

NO !

AMERICAN PEOPLE not Fascists 2008!

Well Said!! Thats get up off our collective asses and stop awaiting the Messiah ( gg no I don't mean R.Paul )

[blackcat]

Maybe I got out of bed the wrong side today but I have totally had it with this Ron Paul adoration stuff.

Here is something to gladden your heart Thermate911. A mainstream publication discusses the Republican nominations and not one mention of Ron Paul. Rather like the BBC discussion I listened to the other night. Rather like ANY mainstream media outlet. Maybe you should get out a bit more Thermate911 if you think Ron Paul is being pushed so much you are sick of it.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/st ... 99,00.html

Republicans facing first poll in disarray

The ranks of the Grand Old Party of Abe Lincoln are divided as it goes into the Iowa caucus battle on Tuesday, with no agreement on what it stands for and no obvious contender to take on Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama

David Smith in New York, Sunday December 30, 2007, The Observer

Clad in an orange and grey hunting jacket and an orange cap, Mike Huckabee raised his 12-gauge shotgun, took aim and fired, bagging a pheasant for the benefit of watching reporters. As another shot flew over their heads, it became too much for one journalist who cried: 'Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Don't shoot. This is traumatising.' Huckabee the hunter had demonstrated himself a 'regular guy', hoping to consolidate his lead in the Republican polls before Thursday's Iowa caucus, the first step to gaining the party's nomination for President.

His nearest rival, Mitt Romney, had shot himself in the foot by claiming to be an avid hunter, only to then confess he targeted mostly 'small varmints'. No such question marks over Huckabee, who said he not only hunted ducks, deer and antelopes but could eat varmint too. 'I figured out you could put grease in a popcorn popper and heat that thing up and you could cook anything,' he said of his student days. 'So we fried squirrel.'
There is growing unease among Republican organisers that the Grand Old Party of Lincoln, Eisenhower and Reagan could meet the same fate as Huckabee's squirrel. The presidential campaign has failed to produce a champion to take on Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, or whoever wins the Democratic nomination. Instead the struggle for the party's soul has exposed fissures in policy, disarray over what it now stands for and distractions both banal and bizarre, 'redneck stew' included.

Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister who does 'not necessarily buy into traditional Darwinian theory', and is celebrated for losing more than 100lb in weight, appeals to Christian evangelicals but not fiscal conservatives. Romney, a Mormon forced to backtrack over a claim that he saw his father march with Martin Luther King, appeals to social, economic and foreign policy conservatives, but not those who regard his religion as a cult.

Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor praised for his leadership after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, for his part plays well with so-called 'security moms' concerned about terrorism, but less well in the heartland because of his liberal views, three marriages and performance 10 years ago on Saturday Night Live as a granny in a floral dress. The resurgent Senator John McCain can trump varmint hunting with his Vietnam War record, but has refused to toe the party line on tax cuts and campaign finance reform.

And the one man none likes to mention as they burn up miles in Iowa is President George Bush.

The party is seen as divided, stale and saturated by religion. It has left jaded activists nostalgic for the certainties of the Reagan era and, after losing control of Congress in 2006, panicking about a meltdown in 2008.

Frank Luntz, the US pollster and political consultant, said there is no mistaking the mood in Iowa and New Hampshire, which holds its primary next week. 'Every time the response is the same,' he said. 'The Democrats can't wait for election day, they are so excited about the prospects and the candidates. The Republicans are much more nervous and much more dissatisfied. There's some disillusionment with the fortunes of the party. There's tremendous fear about the Democrats taking it all, and a sense that they have neither the messenger nor the message.'

The destiny the Republicans fear is that of the Conservatives in Britain in 1997: an unpopular leader overshadowed by a long-serving predecessor, a loss of direction and unity, a charismatic opponent promising change, and a hammering at the polls that spells years in the wilderness. The Republicans have plenty of candidates, but none has captured the imagination or threatened to dominate the landscape. Whereas the Democratic debates have shown an embarrassment of riches, including a woman and a black man with star quality, the Republicans have lined up mostly grey-haired men in suits and has lacked an ace. Whereas the Democratic race is thrilling - Clinton, Obama and John Edwards are virtually neck-and-neck - quantity rather than quality is the Republican byword.

Adam Nagourney, writing in the New York Times, said: 'It is hard to think of another campaign when Republicans have seemed less excited about their choices ... what is worrying Republicans these days is that this tepid rank-and-file reception to the best the party has to offer suggests that the Republican party is hitting a wall after dominating American politics for most of the last 35 years.' George Ajjan, a Republican pundit and analyst, said: 'It's definitely not a healthy party, that much is clear. The root of it is that from 11 September, 2001, until now the Republican party became a George W Bush personality cult where it was follow the leader, throw principles to the wind and support the agenda, whatever it might be at any given moment.

'Symptoms of that are a complete lack of leadership, complete lack of cohesion and very weak candidate line-up. If it was stronger, I think there would be more consensus on who should be the presidential nominee at this point.' He added: 'The Republican party under Bush spent so much of its political capital pursuing the war that a lot of what was traditionally considered a Republican platform about fiscal conservatism - cutting the budget, looking at how to streamline entitlements like social security - just fell off the agenda. A lot of people are upset with the President over immigration as well.'

Whatever Bush's reputation on the international stage, he appeared to succeed at party level in holding together an unlikely coalition of fiscal conservatives and free-market libertarians, 'compassionate' conservatives open to spending public money, an increasingly fractured Christian right, neoconservatives who led the charge into Iraq, and 'realists' who call for a return to pre-9/11 pragmatism in foreign affairs.

Now there are signs that it is falling apart, with the candidates personifying the fragmentation. For example, Giuliani, liberal on abortion and gay rights, and Huckabee, who promises to side with the people against high finance, 'would pull apart the coalition from opposite ends: Giuliani alienating the social conservatives and Huckabee the economic (and foreign policy) conservatives,' according to the right-wing National Review

Its online editor, Kathryn Jean Lopez, said: 'I do think Huckabee is tearing at the coalition - isolating economic conservatives, putting non-evangelical religious social conservatives in an awkward spot, as he seems to be running as a specifically evangelical candidate.'

In churchgoing Iowa, Huckabee's pitch - it's God, not the economy, stupid - has stolen the thunder of former Massachusetts governor Romney, who has poured millions of dollars into the state but cannot buy off anti-Mormon sentiments at any price. Huckabee has called for 'fair', not free, trade and insisted: 'The Republican party needs to represent not just the people on Wall Street but also the people on Main Street.'

He rises early each day, runs between six and 10 miles and reads a chapter from the Book of Proverbs. In his Christmas TV advert, he reminded viewers that 'what really matters is the celebration of the birth of Christ,' as a window behind him was lit to emphasise the shape of a cross. Huckabee has attributed his miraculous rise to 'the same power that helped a little boy with two fish and five loaves feed a crowd of 5,000'.

Faith came to the fore during Reagan's campaign, but now it has gone too far, according to the political commentator Charles Krauthammer. He complained recently: 'This campaign is knee-deep in religion and it's only going to get worse.'

The danger for the Republicans is that this could alienate not only non-Christians but anyone who feels anxious about the blurring of boundaries between church and state, playing into the Democrats' hands. However, Huckabee is not faring so well in New Hampshire, where the Christian right holds less sway and he has been branded hopelessly naive on foreign policy. One pundit rated his chances against the Democrat nominee as: 'Dead on arrival.'

Instead many still predict that Giuliani will overcome likely setbacks in Iowa and New Hampshire to win most states in the primary elections on 'Super Tuesday', 5 February. He was the Republican mayor of a Democratic city and is seen as capable of reaching into the middle ground. He mentions Hillary Clinton at every opportunity on the road and is spoiling for the fight.

If their self-preservation instinct kicks in, many Republicans might then be expected swallow their doubts about Giuliani's colourful past and liberal views and rally to his cause. Like the Tories before 1997, they have a formidable reputation as an election-winning machine, as they demonstrated when upsetting the odds to beat John Kerry in 2004. Indeed, some say they are instinctively better at campaigning than governing.

Iowa indicators

· Since 1972, no candidate who finished worse than third in Iowa has won a major party presidential nomination.

· Iowa has more pigs than people. Its human population is three million. Iowa is 91.5 per cent white, compared with 66.9 per cent of all America. It is 2.3 per cent African-American, compared with 12.8 per cent nationwide. Hispanics make up 3.7 per cent of its people, compared with 14.4 per cent across the nation.

· Three Democrats - Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards - are running virtually neck-and-neck in the polls.

· Among Republicans, a Los Angeles Times poll puts Mike Huckabee at 37 per cent and Mitt Romney on 23 per cent, with John McCain and Fred Thompson both on 11 per cent. But New Hampshire looks very different and victory in Iowa might prove insignificant.

· The Democrats have spent the most on TV advertising in Iowa. Obama has ploughed in $8.3m, Clinton $6.5m and Edwards $2.7m. As of 28 December their adverts had been shown 44,600 times, compared with a Democratic total of 28,054 four years ago.

· Famous Iowans include jazz cornet and trumpet player Bix Beiderbecke, comedian Johnny Carson, actors John Wayne and Elijah Wood, and the 31st US President, Herbert Hoover.
David Smith

[kbo234]

http://ziopedia.org/en/articles/editori ... nd_israel/

RON PAUL AND ISRAEL

Written by Andrew Winkler, The Rebel Media Group
Tuesday, 01 January 2008

My recent article ‘Ron Paul and the New World Order ’ has triggered some fairly strong reactions amongst some of my readers. How dare you, they are saying, to malign the only decent contender in the U.S. presidential elections. Ron Paul has always voted against the Iraq war and financial aid for Israel. How can he be a tool of the Jewish merchant bankers if he votes against those things?

Sorry, guys, I hate to break the news, but there really is no Santa. Ever heard of a thing called ‘AIPAC’? If Ron Paul was able to get re-elected repeatedly after voting against bills supporting the Zionist entity, then he must have very powerful protection. And who other than our self-chosen rulers, that happy family of intermarried, mostly Jewish merchant bankers, the people at the top of the reserve banking scam food chain, could provide that kind of protection?

Without that self-proclaimed elite neither the 'State' of Israel nor that hoax called democracy would exist. They might have some kind of romantic weakness for their Middle-Eastern hobby farm, but what matters most in their decision making is their bottom line. And it’s not like that they all like the idea of rolling back centuries of Jewish emancipation and assimilation in favour of a ghetto state in the Middle-East only to be terrorised again by a bunch of Talmudian sickos dictating them in the minutest detail how to conduct their life.

The main motivation behind the Rothschilds’ and Warburgs’ support for the Zionist project is and always was control of the Middle Eastern oil reserves. That control became necessary when they sold the British government a whole new generation of war ships based on diesel rather than home produced coal. They couldn’t care less how many people – Jewish or not - got killed as a consequence. The Armenian genocide committed by the Rothschild financed crypto-Jewish Young Turks was set up to enrage Christian Westerners with Muslim Turkey in mental preparation for the break up of the Ottoman Empire. Both World War I and II were motivated not only by the usual greed – lending astronomical amounts of money to all sides of the conflict to pay for weapons they buy from the companies controlled by the same Jewish banks – but also by creating the conditions for the creation of the Jews-only state.

Similarly, the Iraq war was not only fought to increase Anglo-Judean control over the Middle-Eastern oil reserves, but to strengthen Apartheid Israel’s regional hegemony. Where does Ron Paul fit into all of this? Our self-chosen rulers need people like him to end wars without having achieved much, other than making obscene profits for the merchant banks of course. America is broke and the job Ron Paul has been chosen for by the self-chosen elite is to break the bad news to the American sheople and prescribe some very bitter pills. Giving away billions of dollars to Israel will no longer be a possibility. That’s why Israel is getting the Irkusk-Haifa pipeline. All that Iraqi oil will generate profits for the Zionist entity that go far beyond the 5 to 6 billions dollars per annum is has been receiving from U.S. tax payers.

In other words, the Jewish hobby farm is will taken care of and Ron Paul’s demands for an end to financial support for Israel is nothing but a token gesture. Our self-chosen rulers can concentrate on the one thing they love more than the state of Israel: making more profits. Ron Paul’s plan of reverting to the gold standard will allow them to do exactly that. By allowing the five Rothschild headed Jewish merchant banks to determine the amount of currency circulating in the U.S. economy, and I have no doubt that the E.U. and others will follow the U.S. move, those five banks will have total control over those economies. They can turn on and off economic booms and recessions as it best suits them, allowing them to maximise profits from their various money lending scams.

Democracy is a horse race where the ruling elite owns all the horses. And Ron Paul is their best horse.

[blackcat]

I'd take the risk that article is Zionist propaganda and vote Ron Paul anyway. What alternative is there to him? Abolishing the Federal Reserve does not hand the economy to the bankers, rather the reverse in fact, and it is not always the case that Zionist support is required to get elected. They have massive clout but it is not absolute. It is very tenuous to say that he must be with them just because he survived as an elected representative, and then use that supposition as if it was a fact to denigrate him. They must be floundering and scared in equal measure.

[kbo234]

I'd take the risk that article is Zionist propaganda and vote Ron Paul anyway. What alternative is there to him? Abolishing the Federal Reserve does not hand the economy to the bankers, rather the reverse in fact, and it is not always the case that Zionist support is required to get elected. They have massive clout but it is not absolute. It is very tenuous to say that he must be with them just because he survived as an elected representative, and then use that supposition as if it was a fact to denigrate him. They must be floundering and scared in equal measure.

I think you're right.

If he's still promising to get rid of the Federal Reserve (is he?) this is the biggest possible blow the bankers could suffer. I don't understand the implications of the 'gold standard' but it is surely the ability to issue money that gives bankers their hegemonic power.

However, if the government no longer has to borrow money from banks that will be a great thing but I wonder will a mechanism be created for private individuals to borrow money from government rather than bankers?

[festival of snickers]

congress created federal reserve and you expect a miracle by ron paul to change it

you live in a dream world

[kbo234]

congress created federal reserve and you expect a miracle by ron paul to change it

you live in a dream world

The USA has also 'uncreated' it's central bank a few times since 1776.

[festival of snickers]

congress created federal reserve and you expect a miracle by ron paul to change it

you live in a dream world

The USA has also 'uncreated' it's central bank a few times since 1776.

how?by congress? or a president?

[kbo234]

Presidents I think....but I suppose it is a huge expectation to expect that he would actually abolish the Federal Reserve.

Mind you, has he not declared that he intends to do this?

[blackbear]

The Israel Factor:Ranking the Presidential Candidates.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerPage.jhtml

Abolish .....the Federal Reserve......when is the Funeral.!

Ron Paul......nearly 15/1 on betfair to be the Republican candidate....

Approx.....6/4 ...for the Republican party to be the winning party.

Approx ...25/1......to be the Next President.......

The short priced favourite is Hilary.....

[festival of snickers]

theres reasons i dont like him and besides who wants to chance it that obama or hillery gets in? i dont