Boycott TV

[festival of snickers]

we need to get rid of tv and not buy a license or us in usa cancel cable
to protest stuff

what else could we boycott? newspapers?

[TonyGosling]

I have spent this evening playing a 'parlour game' with friends.

Maybe a DVD of The Prisoner if pushed - but no rubbish dark forces, lazy, 'strategy of tension', fear enhancement, pitched-to-disturb-at-a-subconcious-level, Eastenders style mind control rubbish TV for me!

[Rory Winter]

no rubbish dark forces, lazy, 'strategy of tension', fear enhancement, pitched-to-disturb-at-a-subconcious-level, Eastenders style mind control rubbish TV for me!

Absolutely. Pity there isn't a nation-wide refusal campaign for the BBC licence. It's a disgraceful monopoly and reminds me of the saying popular in Stalinist Poland about the State media: "Whatever you hear them say, believe the opposite and you won't be far wrong!"

Of course with the smarmy BBC it's not always so simple, their being past-masters of innuendo and calculated disinformation as witness the Tibet business.

[TonyGosling]

During and after the second world war the major British industries were nationalised and run in an open fashion for the public good.

Now, post Thatcher (who was closely advised by Lord Victor Rothschild By The Way) they've all been secretized and sold off to a tiny bunch of mean-hearted gangsters.

Welcolm to fascist Britain.

[Rory Winter]

During and after the second world war the major British industries were nationalised and run in an open fashion for the public good.

Yes indeed. As an ageing hippy I remember those days when we all got a half-pint of milk to drink during the morning school-break. That was until mean Maggie deprived Britain's children of essential calcium and reintroduced them to rickets. Hence the saying, "Thatcher, Thatcher, Milk-snatcher!"

She (who would be he) was a natural-born fascist with a petty bourgeois mentality. The story goes that when her old man ran his shop and the kids came in for their sweeties he used to measure them out while keeping the tip of one finger lightly on the scales. Thus everyone was short-changed.

Maggie must've inherited it from her dad & went onto short-change an entire Nation. What's worse, in my opinion, is that a traitorous scumbag should have been allowed by the labour movement to hijack and destroy the old social-democratic Labour Party.

It was Blair, I believe, who finally did in the BBC after Greg Dyke got the sack for telling the truth about the big WMD lie.

[TonyGosling]

Not exactly,

the privatisation of the BBC began in earnest after Director General Alasdair Milne was ejected by Thatcher, Rothschild and Hussey in January 1987. To be replaced by an accountand Michael Checkland and, in time, the devil Birt.


http://www.bilderberg.org/milne.htm#illness

It was Blair, I believe, who finally did in the BBC after Greg Dyke got the sack for telling the truth about the big WMD lie.

[Rory Winter]

the privatisation of the BBC began in earnest after Director General Alasdair Milne was ejected by Thatcher, Rothschild and Hussey in January 1987. To be replaced by an accountand Michael Checkland and, in time, the devil Birt.

No, what I meant by "did-in" was the muzzling effect which finally turned the BBC into a conduit for state and US foreign-policy propaganda. Dyke was critical about WMD and that brought Blair hard down on him and the Corporation.

It was a gradual process as you point out which appears to have led to meltdown with the sacking of Dyke.

[scubadiver]

we need to get rid of tv and not buy a license or us in usa cancel cable
to protest stuff

what else could we boycott? newspapers?

Not only I have already stopped reading newspapers I will not have a TV when I move into my own place.

[acrobat74]

TV? What TV?

[telecasterisation]

Does this 'binning off' of the television also extend to the internet? I see no difference in the way news is reported and manipulated. Time and time again individual spin is placed upon news reports, at the top level source all the way down to its presentation here in a thread.

There are a specific few here who adhere to very strict packaging traits, keen to publish with manipulative literary additions designed to shape views before reading. Just as guilty as those they choose to cite.

Then there is the radio, news having to be even more carefully worded to influence those without access to accompanying visuals.

I really enjoy a number of television programmes such as House, Lost, Stargate, many Discovery Channel and assorted documentaries. I'd find an hour's worth of Monopoly or Cluedo to have a far worse mental impact than learning about rainforest devastation or even being whizzed about on the Battlestar Galactica dodging Cylons.

If people allow themselves to be manipulated by programmes designed to dumb them down - far better to educate and allow them to selectively choose what they watch, than remove a very valuable educational tool.

[festival of snickers]

i guess i like house and i think lost was ok

have you seen jericho?

you can get these on dvd anyway

so in uk if you own a tv just to see dvds you still have to pay license?

no comericals?
i wonder what boycotts have been done there

[Rory Winter]

so in uk if you own a tv just to see dvds you still have to pay license?

Yep, that's feudal attitudes for you!

[festival of snickers]

internet can lie too and i hate it too

i hate usa tv comercials -flashing lights ,fliting from difernet pictures to make us want all these products we dont need

people buy want they dont need

[telecasterisation]

i guess i like house and i think lost was ok

have you seen jericho?

you can get these on dvd anyway

so in uk if you own a tv just to see dvds you still have to pay license?

no comericals?
i wonder what boycotts have been done there

No, not seen Jericho and I have to admit that Lost better pull its socks up quick smart as it has gotten a trifle daft. The latest season four with all its flashforwards and new characters and proposed three missing episodes laced into future seasons due to the writer's strike, hasn't helped viewing figures.

I agree there are lots of pantsy programmes, but there is balance now with the huge range of channels, especially now freeview joins the fray. I find science fiction to be very expansive, far more than watching Peggy Mitchell in the Queen Vic. The Sarah Connor Terminator Chronicles is great hokum and I wouldn't swap that for finding out who killed Mr Green in the conservatory with a candlestick.

Life is about finding a place where no one thing becomes dominant. I recently found that the guitar had taken over my life - I'd sit here dealing with issues via the net with one on my lap doing rhythm work after getting up at 06:00 for two hours of scales, followed by four hours of song practice in the evening. So I started a business that runs itself and found a full-time shift work based job that evened my life up. Incidentally, this is back in the police service in one of the few civilian enforcement roles. The television is there if I need it and I am selective about what I watch.

[scubadiver]

so in uk if you own a tv just to see dvds you still have to pay license?

I will watch mine on the computer. I have THX sound surround.

[festival of snickers]

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.d ... /1005/life

There are drawbacks. You'll have to watch the shows on your computer's monitor. While there are ways to stream what's on your computer to your TV, most of us won't want to go through the technical hoops to do it. And, in most cases, you can't download the shows. Links for all of these sites are at www.komando.com/news.
Cornucopia sites

Unlike television, where programming is limited by network affiliation, several sites have deals to offer shows from different networks. For example, Joost features more than 20,000 shows.

You'll find prime-time and sports broadcasts, along with documentaries and music. There are shows from Comedy Central, CBS and MTV. Sony and Showtime also offer videos. Most are full-length shows. Others are clips or extras. You can browse by channel or category to find a show, or use the site's search function.

You must download the Joost viewer to watch its shows. It works on Windows PCs and Macs. Expect to see about three minutes of advertising per hour, although this may increase. Joost also uses annoying pop-up ads.

Hulu is similar to Joost. You'll find full-length shows and clips from NBC, Fox, Bravo and Oxygen, among other networks. Some movies are available. You can browse alphabetically, by genre or by network. There's also a search box.No software is needed for Hulu. You just click and watch online. You see about one-quarter the number of ads on Hulu as on television.

AOL's In2TV features a wide selection of classic shows. You'll find comedy, drama, sci-fi and other genres.But In2TV isn't limited to the classics. It has partnered with major networks, mostly through Hulu, to offer recent videos. In2TV plays about two minutes of commercials per half-hour episode.
The networds

Major networks also have launched their own video sites.

ABC lets you watch many of its shows online. However, its full archive is not available. Only some recently aired episodes are offered. You can watch full episodes with commercial interruptions. There is no software to download. You'll see two ad breaks during a half-hour show and three during hour-long shows.

[uselesseater]

Yes, the problem with TV is that most of the propaganda is packaged in fiction rather than the news etc...

It's far more effective as it is fed into your subconcious while you are 'entertained' by the story etc...

Some entertainment is so laced with propaganda it's bloody obvious, 'Sex and the City' springs to mind.

There's no wonder I grew up thinking that Global Government was beneficial, civilised and inevitable when I was watching sci-fi like Star Trek. I just thought there would be a world government as a natural progression, by default.

[uselesseater]

Yes, the problem with TV is that most of the propaganda is packaged in fiction rather than the news etc...

It's far more effective as it is fed into your subconcious while you are 'entertained' by the story etc...

Some entertainment is so laced with propaganda it's bloody obvious, 'Sex and the City' springs to mind.

There's no wonder I grew up thinking that Global Government was beneficial, civilised and inevitable when I was watching sci-fi like Star Trek. I just thought there would be a world government as a natural progression, by default.

[festival of snickers]

Yes, the problem with TV is that most of the propaganda is packaged in fiction rather than the news etc...

It's far more effective as it is fed into your subconcious while you are 'entertained' by the story etc...

Some entertainment is so laced with propaganda it's bloody obvious, 'Sex and the City' springs to mind.

There's no wonder I grew up thinking that Global Government was beneficial, civilised and inevitable when I was watching sci-fi like Star Trek. I just thought there would be a world government as a natural progression, by default.

u in usa? ? uk?

in usa all the flashing images make us want those itims and we dont need them

[acrobat74]

xavierXreivax's Cath(Ode To TV)

[TonyGosling]

Is Television the Image of the Beast which it is forbidden to adore?

Today, most of humanity is dependent on television. Even small children are sitting for hours in front of the monitors. Then you do not need a baby sitter. Are television sets not equally dangerous as hard drugs?? Are you already weaned from television??
We did not yet come to the point - as written in Chapter 13,15 - that all those who are not adoring the „Image of the Beast“ will be killed. Even we did not arrive the time that the final Beast and the False Prophet (= Antichrist) is asking for public idolatry over the television. But also this time will come.
http://endtimehappenings.blogspot.com/2 ... ch-is.html

Contrary Biblical view:
http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/image-beast.htm

[simplesimon]

Those clever anti-semitic Czarist secret police wrote (Protocol 13):

In order to distract people who may be too troublesome from discussions of questions of the political we are now putting forward what we allege to be new questions of the political, namely, questions of industry. In this sphere let them discuss themselves silly! The masses are agreed to remain inactive, to take a rest from what they suppose to be political (which we trained them to in order to use them as a means of combating the GOY governments) only on condition of being found new employments, in which we are prescribing them something that looks like the same political object. In order that the masses themselves may not guess what they are about WE FURTHER DISTRACT THEM WITH AMUSEMENTS, GAMES, PASTIMES, PASSIONS, PEOPLE'S PALACES .... SOON WE SHALL BEGIN THROUGH THE PRESS TO PROPOSE COMPETITIONS IN ART, IN SPORT IN ALL KINDS: these interests will finally distract their minds from questions in which we should find ourselves compelled to oppose them. Growing more and more unaccustomed to reflect and form any opinions of their own, people will begin to talk in the same tone as we because we alone shall be offering them new directions for thought ... of course through such persons as will not be suspected of solidarity with us.

[telecasterisation]

For those here who berate TV, those who sit hour upon hour in front of a monitor, much closer than your average person to a tv set, filtering and monitoring published news, starting new threads designed to offer their own spin on things - what exactly is the difference between the internet and television?

Is the internet not equally as dangerous as hard drugs?

The recent deaths of two net gamers have once again raised the issue of the impact of addiction on the online gaming community, and the health risks involved. A 28-year-old from Beijing, nicknamed "Snowly", died last month after playing the online game "World of Warcraft" for several continuous days during the national day holiday. Snowly's friends, who share the same game community, say that he was a very diligent member and a key official of their community, who was always connected to the Internet.

Several days before Snowly's death, the gamer was said to be preparing for a relatively difficult part of the game ( the final battle with the Black Dragon Prince) and had very little rest. He told his friends that he felt very tired. A big online funeral was held for him one week after the death.

But the event was sadly overshadowed by the death of another game enthusiast nicknamed Thereafter. Several online game communities have posted announcements to urge their members to pay attention to their health. Meanwhile, 7 major domestic game makers have agreed to install an anti-obsession system on eleven online game products.

The internet IS the new television?

[festival of snickers]

yes the internet is worse maybe

[Chris Walsh]

Very interesting thread.

I am inclined to say that the Internet, however, is better than TV simply because it's not entirely in corporate hands. We can still celebrate free speech with the Inernet.

Internet2, however, will be a different story!

[telecasterisation]

Very interesting thread.

I am inclined to say that the Internet, however, is better than TV simply because it's not entirely in corporate hands. We can still celebrate free speech with the Inernet.

Internet2, however, will be a different story!

The impact I see transcends 'content' per se, to quote from earlier in the thread;

Today, most of humanity is dependent on television. Even small children are sitting for hours in front of the monitors.

Bizarre when you consider those who slate TV have simply replaced one screen for another a good deal closer! I walked my dogs last night and I spied eleven adults in upstairs windows gazing at a flickering monitor just a foot from their faces.

The dependency on the internet, or more astutely, 'the surfing culture' has exploded with cheap broadband and lower priced desk/laptops. There are countless cyber niches and boltholes where people retreat to, which are structured like mini-societies, ruled and governed by their constructors. To cite 'free-speech' as being celebratory is highly flawed.

To use here as an example, my own profile has been manipulated by others to reflect such a misleading and untrue state of opinion that tells others I believe that the official story is true when I categorically do not.

In addition, thought provoking threads are routinely censored, an example being one on the holocaust;

Thread hidden

'We' have come to the conclusion that discussing the minutiae of the Holocaust on this site is entirely counter-productive.

Whilst I have no problem with rules, I am merely using this as something researchable without much work, restrictions and bowdlerization exist even in areas that profess to challenge such controls.

You are welcome to throw a 'free-speech' celebratory party in cyberspace, but ultimately someone will come along and tell you to turn the noise down.

[festival of snickers]

you deny the holocaust?

i hate the internet

go print up some flyers and hand them out on a corner

[kbo234]

The thing is that on the internet the spinning is not all co-ordinated by one authority.

Quote:

Finally, the English aristocratic Bertrand Russell is part of the top echelon of this secret cabal that wants a world government. In his book The Impact of Science on Society, written in 1953, he also confirmed that mass psychology should be used on the masses where they are totally controlled.

“ I think the subject will be of most importance politically is mass psychology … Various results will soon be arrived at: that the influence of home is obstructive … Although this science will be diligently studied, it should be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charged of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen …”