Brian Haw - beaten up and arrested by police

[PercyPenguin]

Having met him, I'm not sure Brian Haw is all there.

The police can see this, and still they assualt him.

Disgraceful.

[Frazzel]

it is not a level playing field. socpa is a contravention of our human rights. stop criticising the protestors which the msm love doing. anywayhow do we know if there werent any agent provocateurs? ie those in the crowd who are paid by the police, secret services, to cause trouble which can then be blamed on the protestors. nothing justifies Brian's injuries by the heavy handed tactics of the police.

[andyb]

Sorry guys but after watching the video from what i can see most of the cops behaved in quite a restrained and sometimes polite manner when obviously confronted by some protestors wanting to deliberately spark off trouble to get publicity.

Obviously some of the scuffers bully boys lost their rags

Can someone explain what the guys lying down in the road were doing apart from obstructing it

I am all for the right to protest but they do get hijacked by other not so peaceful elements.

After meeting up in Trafalgar Square it was decided to go for a walk in 'Our streets'.

The streets are not just the protestors streets but every other member of the publics streets who have the right to passage on them without obstruction.

All that said wish Brian Haw speedy recovery and hope they nail Mr Plod who did it.

the police did act okay for the most part and I have no bones with them and chatted to quite a few about Peter Power and the ICCA 2001. It was the TSG who came in and were forceful. No demonstrators retaliated. The sitdowns were good forms on non violent civil disobedience. Imagine if STW had said on the big anti war march, everybody sit until your government agrees not to go to war. We would not be in Iraq now!!

[Frazzel]

quiet agree about NVDA (no violent direct action) andy, - more such NVDA needs to be done. BTW correct me if im wrong, but the TSG are composed of and hence are part of the police! you cant just join the TSG. First you have to be trained as a police officer. imk sure that not all police officers are happy with the way our civil liberties are being violated or such heavy handedness by the TSG anyway. good idea to try to have a dialogue with police with a conscience.

[xmasdale]

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Having met him, I'm not sure Brian Haw is all there.

The police can see this, and still they assualt him.

Disgraceful.

That's a personal opinion and, as you admit, does not justify either beating him up or trying to stop him from continuing his protest against the mass murder in Iraq and Afghanistan which this government has unleashed in contravention of the law.

What are the standards for deciding whether or not someone is "all there"? Being persistant and steadfast in pursuing a campaign for peace and justice at great personal discomfort is certainly abnormal. If that constitutes being "not all there" then neither were Ghandi or Jesus and that is indeed how the authorities viewed them.

Brian has become a national icon of protest against the War on Terror and any attempt by the police to harm him is a definate own goal.

[Frazzel]

those who 'arent all there' are those who think its o.k to beat up peaceful protestors.
those who 'arent all there' have no compassion or conscience for all the hurt, the killing, the devastation they cause.

[andyb]

I have a relation in the met and know that the normal coppers don't rerally like the TSG. A lot of them are ex military. I don't agree with the one size fits all attitude a lot have for the cops. At the end of the day if we are gonna change things we need a critical mass and this will include the cops. Much better being rational and polite and provide them with good information about their paymasters.

[utopiated]

Can someone explain what the guys lying down in the road were doing apart from obstructing it

I am all for the right to protest but they do get hijacked by other not so peaceful elements.

What's a minor "obstruction" compared to what's going on on this planet??

Get some perspective.

[conspiracy analyst]

According to the papers Brian Haw is to be imprisoned for disrespecting a judge for 3 months? Thats what the Metro I think wrote yesterday?

Did anyone catch that one?

They seem to be doing everything in their power to not allow him to stand for London Mayor...

[TonyGosling]

Is the judge a devil worshipping freemason or just the ordinary low degree type I wonder???

Oh sorry, I'm not allowed to know that am I.

According to the papers Brian Haw is to be imprisoned for disrespecting a judge for 3 months? Thats what the Metro I think wrote yesterday?

Did anyone catch that one?

They seem to be doing everything in their power to not allow him to stand for London Mayor...

[andyb]

There is a whole state of corruption surrounding the police and judges regarding Brian and Barabara Tucker. there guys are true heroes and are fighting daily for our rights. Please support them in any way you can. They won't jail Brian as he has too much dirt on the police and judges

[Stephen]

Sorry guys but after watching the video from what i can see most of the cops behaved in quite a restrained and sometimes polite manner when obviously confronted by some protestors wanting to deliberately spark off trouble to get publicity.

Obviously some of the scuffers bully boys lost their rags

Can someone explain what the guys lying down in the road were doing apart from obstructing it

I am all for the right to protest but they do get hijacked by other not so peaceful elements.

Sorry I didnt see anything wrong with this demo there was no violence by the demonstrators and the police had control the protesters.

Can someone explain what the guys lying down in the road were doing apart from obstructing it

They were standing up for freedom of speech.

[TonyGosling]

Veteran peace protester Brian Haw arrives in Oxford, the UK, for a debate - after walking there from his camp outside parliament in London.

[gareth]

Veteran peace protester Brian Haw arrives in Oxford, the UK, for a debate - after walking there from his camp outside parliament in London.

[uselesseater]

So who is running the campaign? Is there any promotional material? I can arrange for some t-shirts to be printed.

[xmasdale]

It doesn't seem to be clear whether or not he is standing.

At the Stop the War demo against Condi's visit outside Downing Street last Wednesday I was asked if I would support Lindsay German's candidacy for mayor. I replied that I would rather support Brian Haw.

To have them both standing would obviously split the anti-war vote and be good news for the powers that be. A mass of anti-war candidates in Sedgefield who would not co-operate with each other at the general election, successfully split the anti-Blair vote there.

A Lindsay German candidacy, determined as she appears to be not to examine the evidence of 9/11 or 7/7 being false flag operations, would suit the powers that be very well.

Leftist gatekeepers abound.

[TonyGosling]

SOCPA - hospital interview with Brian Haw

Welcome to Boris' regime Brian.
For Police Community Support Officers (CSO) read Cannot Help In Most Police Situations (CHIMPS)
Audio interview with Brian Haw late last night at Accident & Emergency in St. Thomas hospital after he was attacked in parliament square yesterday by police and held for more than six hours for an alleged public order offence.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/05/398347.html

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/media/2008/05//398348.mp3

[Busker]

I think the rules of the forum may prohibit me expressing my level of contempt for the Met.

Haw is a bloody hero for what he has done and should be treated as such.

I always make a point of nipping by to say "hello, how's it going?" whenever I have the unfortunate experience of being in London.

It's about time these "officers" were identified and sued as individuals instead of them hiding behind the commissioner. Once they start losing their money they'll think twice.

[karlos]

Nothing to do with Boris.
This was our Nazi police.

[TetraGrammatonCleric]

I agree Brian is a hero...the scum who assaulted him should hang their heads in shame, he's protesting the terrorism of a heavily armed state going up against civilians, in most right-thinking peoples minds he is to be applauded. What the hell is wrong with this country? have the minions of the state seen some of his pictures of deformed children caused by DU munitions..i suppose they think thats fine and dandy.

[TonyGosling]

Nothing to do with Boris.

Your buffoon of a PR hero!
Its the shape of things to come Stelios.

Haw is a bloody hero for what he has done and should be treated as such.

Yes he is. Isn't there a way Brian can be given some sort of people's award. Like several steps up from being made a poncy Knight of the Garter.

One of the kindest and most courageous human beings alive.

[karlos]

So your suggesting that Boris told the local Charing Cross police to go and give Brian some agro in the same way that Livingstone used to do?
Ask Brian Haw.
Livingstone used to walk past, phone people on his mobile and then the stormtroopers used to arrive. This happened.
Livingstone was even overheard saying that "i thought you had cleared this mess up" by people there.
So Livingstone had a personal vendetta.

Boris other than saying he is against ID cards, against the SOPCA law and against the detention of people without charge has not, to my limited knowledge, walked past the square and ordered the police to attack.

Whereas we know for a fact Livingstone has.

[Emmanuel]

This is terrrible news. I can only say im appalled...

[paul wright]

This is terrrible news. I can only say im appalled...

Yup - the shape of Borisland
Arrest and beat the f*ckers up. The residue of Livingstone slimeland
Boris articulates the project a step further
They are all the same process

[David WJ Sherlock]

Looks like another trumped up law to arrest Brian Haw. This police state is so obvious.






Anti-war protester Brian Haw, who won a court battle to maintain his Parliament Square vigil which began in 2001, has been arrested.

The 56-year old father-of-seven, from Redditch, Worcestershire, was with a fellow campaigner when the arrest occurred, supporters said.

Mr Haw was arrested on suspicion of obstructing police.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4848040.stm

[TonyGosling]

Bullingdon Club start flexing their muscles
Brilliant Guardian article on the topic

Boris Johnson plans to clear Parliament Square peace campHigh court action sought for trespass on day coalition government pledges to restore rights to non-violent protest
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/2 ... peace-camp

[David WJ Sherlock]

Bullingdon Club start flexing their muscles
Brilliant Guardian article on the topic

Boris Johnson plans to clear Parliament Square peace campHigh court action sought for trespass on day coalition government pledges to restore rights to non-violent protest
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/2 ... peace-camp

We know what their pledges/promises mean. Borris or the coalition. All part of the same 7 headed dragon.

[outsider]

I heard Brian was arrested for refusing to allow police to search his tent.

[TonyGosling]

Boris Johnson yesterday won his High Court battle to evict the peace camp in Parliament Square.

But London's mayor must wait to clear the protesters after they were given until Friday to lodge any appeals.

The activists were ordered to pay the estimated £100,000 cost of the 10-day hearing.

The judge suggested the mayor might allow original protester Brian Haw to stay in his tent in the square.

He has vigorously objected to the Democracy Village protest alongside his own anti-Iraq war demo.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -22370865/

[David WJ Sherlock]

He has vigorously objected to the Democracy Village protest alongside his own anti-Iraq war demo.[/size]

I was in the square a few weeks ago. I was talking to Barbara. She made it clear they were not welcome. And I have to agree with her. Gareth Newman (I have always felt him to be a dubious character) and the dropouts from that eco village are camped up there. Also the camp is full of what appears to be commies and bums. I am glad they are being kicked off. I think they undermine Brian’s cause. As for Brian. He needs to re-think his attitude a bit. He is acting like he owns the square. I heard him having a go at people for talking while he was talking to his legal brief. That is not on. He could alienate himself from the public. He is to aggressive.