I'm Mad, Howard Beale kind of mad.

wordskills · Post by **wordskills** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:53 pm

“If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.”

~Thomas Jefferson~

No really though, something needs to be done to stop these animals.

nrmis · Post by **nrmis** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:12 pm

Hi and welcome!

Funnily enough I was sending a few youtube vids to a friend in america the other night and one of them was a compilation of quotes and warnings from Thomas Jefferson. The others, by the way, were JFK's warning speech on secret society's and Eisenhowers warning of same (called it the military industrial complex)

nrmis · Post by **nrmis** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:16 pm

I certainly agree that 'something needs to be done to stop these animals'
I have intimated on another thread http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewto ... highlight= that we should have a list people who are mainly responsible for the thrust of fascism in this country. We should put into the public domain all the details we can about these people including their addresses and whereabouts.
I can understand that people might say 'Well, thats what we are doing on this forum isn't it?' And yes, I agree that this is a great place for uncovering that sort of information and I'm thankful to all the great posters that expose the truth.
The thing is, I can see things coming on top pretty quickly with this economic crisis and unless peoples energies are focussed in the right direction it will just be another street brawl amongst us cattle while the people who are the instigators and planners will watch from afar in comfort.
I realize that I am asking for a lot of 'boiling down' of the facts and the facilitators but time is precious.
Name the faciltators (I realize thats a big ask but with the wealth of knowledge and research undertaken here, we should be able to come up with a decent list)
Post their addresses.
Post their contact details.
Post their wherabouts.

Post by **TonyGosling** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:02 pm

Are you suggesting some kind of Citizen's Arrest?
That's the preferred method surely rather than the somehat more extra-judicial 'Complicity' route.

nrmis · Post by **nrmis** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:42 am

Citizens arrest? Not a bad idea that.
There may well be a mass of angry and disillusioned people in this country quite soon.
I am suggesting FOCUS!
We need to boil things down to who is ultimately responsible and where they are hiding out and put it in the public domain and keep it there.

(You will have to help me out with the Complicity reference. I am not a great reader of fiction)

Thermate911 · Post by **Thermate911** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:20 pm

Jefferson mostly had it spot on - but who is listening now?

Perhaps it's time to remind those people still awake of the film 'V for Vendetta'? It will soon reach that stage judging by the state of 'government' Britain and the US have descended to...

I cannot help contrasting the general present western apathy with the Greek students, who collectively seem to be echoing Howard Beale by saying 'I can't take any more!'

Where is the passion, where the moral outrage, where the cry for justice as banksters rob us all of our commonwealth and the Menezes inquiry ends in black farce?

wordskills · Post by **wordskills** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:39 am

[quote="Thermate911"]Jefferson mostly had it spot on - but who is listening now?

Perhaps it's time to remind those people still awake of the film 'V for Vendetta'? It will soon reach that stage judging by the state of 'government' Britain and the US have descended to...

I cannot help contrasting the general present western apathy with the Greek students, who collectively seem to be echoing Howard Beale by saying 'I can't take any more!'

Where is the passion, where the moral outrage, where the cry for justice as banksters rob us all of our commonwealth and the Menezes inquiry ends in black farce?[/quote]

This is what I'm talking about. Where is the moral outrage, WHERE IS THE CRY FOR JUSTICE? I feel like I'm on the Truman show sometimes. You can't even bring this subject up with people anymore. Everyone would rather watch dancing monkeys on the television, and when someone does try to bring up these points on some godless news program, they are labeled as anti-American, or some conspiracy theorist nut. Well dammit I'm not theorizing, I saw the damn thing go down. SO.... we are stuck in this endless loop of a select few people trolling around on message boards, or signing petitions here and there, but I want something more. Unfortunately the pessimistic side of me says "sod it" Divide and Conquer was too good for even the brightest minds to overcome.

Thermate911 · Post by **Thermate911** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:53 pm

IMO, the answer to 'Divide and Conquer' is not to form cohesive oppositional 'movements' in the first place! I thinks the Afghani's have proved that point - historically and topically. It's Khyber Pass all over again, this time for Nato.

On the home front, you could encourage people to leave all their old shoes in the forecourt of the houses of parliament, perhaps? It's a gesture - it might make you feel better whilst we await some failed experimental psychotic to emerge from Porton Down or the like...

dontbelievethehype1970 · Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:47 pm

Thermate911 wrote: On the home front, you could encourage people to leave all their old shoes in the forecourt of the houses of parliament, perhaps? It's a gesture - it might make you feel better whilst we await some failed experimental psychotic to emerge from Porton Down or the like...

good idea .

Josieclosie · Post by **Josieclosie** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:45 am

Some of us have already begun the fight back

http://www.a-i-darlo.com/wordpress/

http://www.independentaction.net/

This is a good one.

http://townliar.com/forum/index.php?sid ... 9207ae9ddb

slightly more contentious

http://coppersblog.blogspot.com/

this one is quite funny except the policeman has now gone to live in Canada………

http://www.rottenborough.org.uk/

puts DBC into perspective

http://www.mcspotlight.org/case/index.html

the Mclibel trial - I wonder when there will be a Tesco trial after they sue the Journalists printing nasty stories about them?

http://www.logacomplaint.com/

This was one of my earlier clients…………..

http://www.employmenttribunals.gov.uk/

contains information when you need to take action against your employer including the ability to lodge a claim online

http://www.politicsforum.co.uk/forum/vi ... 531#485531

Thermate911 · Post by **Thermate911** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:58 am

Some good links there, Josie, but 'Some of us' might take exception to your statement 'Some of us have already begun the fight back'.

'Some of us' having been fighting all our lives for the emergence of global truth and justice and 'some of us' have lost our lives, many more their freedom, in so doing.

Whatever, so long as some of us don't ever give up hope for a better world, generation by generation, we will prevail, eventually.

Coral reefs come to mind ;-)
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