Ahmadinejad tells U.N. most blame U.S. government for 9/11

[TonyGosling]

Yes there were dodgy people there but it was not a HD conferece as you say. Any person brave enough to put on a conference examining the truth and lies of the Nazi Holocaust.
Politicians in the West know all they have to do is trot out this BS to end any conversation giving credence to Iran.

A man who hosts a holocaust denial conference

It was unwise to allow some Kollerstom types to speak.
You don't see Ian that there are myriad traps and snares being laid for the Iranians. Some being paid for no doubt with your tax pounds.
Ahmedinejad is one of the only true statesmen in the world.
His speech was touching and briliant.
And quite rightly applauded.

Freedom is a divine right that should serve peace and human perfection.
Pure thoughts and the will of the righteous are keys to the gates of a pure life full of hope, liveliness and beauty.
This is the promise of God that the earth will be inherited by the pure and the righteous. And the people free from selfishness will take up the management of the world. Then, there will be no trace of sorrow, discrimination, poverty, insecurity and aggression. The time for true happiness and for the blossoming of the true nature of humankind, the way God has intended, will arrive.

[ian neal]

Yes there were dodgy people there but it was not a HD conferece as you say. Any person brave enough to put on a conference examining the truth and lies of the Nazi Holocaust.
Politicians in the West know all they have to do is trot out this BS to end any conversation giving credence to Iran.

This hits the nail on then head and explains why I'm so suspicious of Ahmadinejad. Whatever else we think, we can agree that Ahmadinejad is no fool. He's intelligent enough. Intelligent enough to know full well what would be the reaction would be to his invitation of David Duke. If he does the same with this proposed 9/11 conference it will provoke a similar response.

[Andrew.]

Yes there were dodgy people there but it was not a HD conferece as you say. Any person brave enough to put on a conference examining the truth and lies of the Nazi Holocaust.
Politicians in the West know all they have to do is trot out this BS to end any conversation giving credence to Iran.

This hits the nail on then head and explains why I'm so suspicious of Ahmadinejad. Whatever else we think, we can agree that Ahmadinejad is no fool. He's intelligent enough. Intelligent enough to know full well what would be the reaction would be to his invitation of David Duke. If he does the same with this proposed 9/11 conference it will provoke a similar response.

Well the response should be when it's been researched, that the Zionists murdered other Jews; just like they do with Palestinians ect. And further like so called British/American politicians will murder our own troops and innocent poor people that have hurt no one and lie about who murdered our own civilians in 9/11 and 7/7. So why should people shy away from the truth and not question the Holocaust.

You don’t want this Zionist murder of some Jews covered up, do you Ian Neal?

[ian neal]

What did or did not happen in WWII is not the subject of this thread. I've written quite a bit on the search for the truth about the holocaust on this forum elsewhere. Search for it if you are that interested.

No the subject is Ahmadinejad's speech and for me in particular his proposal for a conference on terrorism and 9/11. And my point is that if Ahmadinejad invites people like David Duke to a 9/11 truth conference like he did to his holocaust conference, it could be a serious, possibly fatal blow to 9/11 truth.

If Ahmadinejad does take this route, much will depend on the reaction of the wider movement and the extent to which it draws a clear line in the sand and says people with fascist and racist backgrounds do not speak in our name or in the name of the family campaigners.

[John White]

The one thing that I'm reminded of with regards to Ahmadinejad's speech, and the portion refering to 9/11, is the Paul Stott's of this world, who have spent years trying to rubbish 9/11 Truth using tactics along the lines of "Iranians push 9/11 Truth". In fact he was at it recently:

http://paulstott.typepad.com/911cultwat ... ders-.html

So on that basis, Ahmadinejad's comments arent necessarily helpful, as it enables 9/11 Truth to be characterised as pro-Iranian/Islamic propoganda: one of the pitfalls on the way, and something to watch out for

Be that as it may, I have been generally encouraged reading around comments sections of national newspapers by the volume of people saying "He may be *whatever*, doesnt mean it isnt true"

And this reminds me that 9/11 Truth, unlike say JFK Truth, retains its ability to seriously expose the games of the power elite, and the balance is shifting day by day towards people saying "Of course they lied! They wanted their war"

So Ahmadinejad's comments reflect that: hes not a foolish man, far from it, he is very capable and intelligent, and he knows how to tap into the zeitgeist to politically embarrass his countries enemies

I don't harbour any illusions about him, I neither consider him satan or jesus, but its certainly one of the problems truth has to get past when it is voiced and supported by those who otherwise might not be ideal examples of values one would wish to embody and help bring forward in the world

And I for one would not wish to be a citizen in the current Iranian regime: but then I'm not too chuffed atm with being a citizen in the British one: and I do not want to see the people of Iran murdered enmass. I am not a maniac: unlike, sadly, some of those with power in my society

[item8]

http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2010/ ... about-911/

International Law Expert: Ahmadinejad is Right about 9/11!

25. Sep, 2010

An international lawyer says many now question the truth behind the 9/11 attacks, and that American citizens are demanding an international probe into the incident.

Source: Press TV

“Ahmadinejad is absolutely rational and correct on this, that the American people are now coming to the point of demanding an international inquiry (into the 9/11 attacks), ” Franklin Lamb told Press TV. (Listen to Franklin Lamb's radio interview with Kevin Barrett of Muslims for 9/11 Truth.)

The Beirut-based lawyer was referring to remarks by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in his address to the 65th UN General Assembly that the 9/11 incident might have been the result of an inside job in the United States.

"This call [for an international investigation] didn’t start in the Middle East. It stated more than a year ago in Canada, in Europe, in Latin America, and increasingly in America itself,” he continued.

“There are just too many questions raised by architects, by pilots, by experts, by engineers, by [US Department of] Homeland Security employees and the FBI,” the international lawyer reiterated.

“There is every reason to have an inquiry and the [US President Barack] Obama administration should join this call, not oppose it,” he underlined.

The lawyer added what President Ahmadinejad said was a ‘logical proposal’ and that “the president of Iran is now in synchronization with the majority of the American people.”

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“Only 16 per cent of respondents say the government headed by U.S. president George W. Bush is telling the truth on what it knew prior to the terrorist attacks, down five points since May 2002.” Angus Reid poll, 2006

Source: Muslims for 9/11 Truth

[Andrew.]

What did or did not happen in WWII is not the subject of this thread. I've written quite a bit on the search for the truth about the holocaust on this forum elsewhere. Search for it if you are that interested.

No the subject is Ahmadinejad's speech and for me in particular his proposal for a conference on terrorism and 9/11. And my point is that if Ahmadinejad invites people like David Duke to a 9/11 truth conference like he did to his holocaust conference, it could be a serious, possibly fatal blow to 9/11 truth.

If Ahmadinejad does take this route, much will depend on the reaction of the wider movement and the extent to which it draws a clear line in the sand and says people with fascist and racist backgrounds do not speak in our name or in the name of the family campaigners.

Well you brought that subject up about a conference (about free speech and questioning the Holocaust and Zionism) but then in a fascist evil satanic way turned it around and said “A man who hosts a holocaust denial conference”

My point is, let people have the right to question the Holocaust and Zionism. Rather than bow to the dictates of Zionists (Who murdered some Jews in the Second World War, but blame it on others continually)

I don’t think Ian, you want a truth movement, but an appease movement. But they will still murder. And many would rather search for some more truths.

Should we now draw a line in the sand on you? For your fascist dictates? And racism on making an exception for certain people?

[TonyGosling]

What did or did not happen in WWII is not the subject of this thread.

You brought it up - lol

Ahmedinejad has never, to my knowlege, said the Holocaust never happened. At the UN he quite rightly said it has been used for propaganda purposes. I have no problem whatever with him saying that.

The steady-footedness of the Persians, despite the massive destabilisation programmes against them, is an inspiration.

[ian neal]

In 2006, 5 years after 9/11, Ahmadinejad decides the most important issue demanding an international conference is not 9/11 but the holocaust. Why?

Ahmadinejad calls this high profile conference on such an emotive subject and then chooses to give a platform to David Duke (along with several others with convictions for 'holocaust denial') knowing full well how this would be portrayed. Again why?

Ahmadinejad then calls for a conference on 9/11 and you have no alarm bells ringing.

Fine ..... whatever.

Ahmadinejad and Duke at the conference

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YicLTJBElnI/S ... d_Duke.jpg

Duke in the 'good ole days'

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FKZa9tBp9mw/S ... e-1979.jpg

I don’t think Ian, you want a truth movement, but an appease movement.

Think whatever you want. Your opinion counts for zilch with me.

Should we now draw a line in the sand on you? For your fascist dictates? And racism on making an exception for certain people?

Who is 'we' here? Don't pretend you speak for anyone but yourself. You can draw your lines whereever you want. Like I say you opinion counts for zilch with me.

My "fascist dictates" [sic]? My "racism"?

Where have I issued a diktat? In what capacity and on what authority have I issued a diktat? Where have I been racist? You're talking nonsense just because you disagree with me.

[Andrew.]

In 2006, 5 years after 9/11, Ahmadinejad decides the most important issue demanding an international conference is not 9/11 but the holocaust. Why?

Because people can see that it was (or even if at all [which I don’t agree with]) done by the Zionists themselves, if they look just a little, little bit further.

Ahmadinejad calls this high profile conference on such an emotive subject and then chooses to give a platform to David Duke (along with several others with convictions for 'holocaust denial') knowing full well how this would be portrayed. Again why?

To show those that want to see how duplicitous certain people and compainers really are.

Think whatever you want. Your opinion counts for zilch with me.

Thank-you Mr Ego. But there is some truth in that if we look at it the right way up and not satanically. Whatever the truth is, is the truth and my or your opinion does not count. This is why truth says we should search for the whole truth.

Andrew. wrote:
Should we now draw a line in the sand on you? For your fascist dictates? And racism on making an exception for certain people?


Who is 'we' here? Don't pretend you speak for anyone but yourself. You can draw your lines whereever you want. Like I say you opinion counts for zilch with me.

The we, is you here "...the extent to which it draws a clear line in the sand and says people with fascist and racist backgrounds do not speak in our name or in the name of the family campaigners."

My "fascist dictates" [sic]? My "racism"?

Where have I issued a diktat? In what capacity and on what authority have I issued a diktat? Where have I been racist? You're talking nonsense just because you disagree with me.

You have not the power to dictate? But would you given your stance on suggesting that people should not question certain subjects, repeatedly? Making exceptions for certain people is racist and you have been doing it on this thread as you also have for years.

Duke in the 'good ole days'

Perhaps he has now renounced Zionism?


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(along with several others with convictions for 'holocaust denial')

Did they deny or question it? Would you dictate this stance as they do by physical force? Either way it should be clear that Zionists were responsible for it if it did or did not happen in the way as some suggest. If in the event of research it was not as bad as has been put forward; they the Zionists would still be responsible for it and the instigation of most if not all wars and the major wars.

[TonyGosling]

This hits the nail on then head and explains why I'm so suspicious of Ahmadinejad. Whatever else we think, we can agree that Ahmadinejad is no fool. He's intelligent enough. Intelligent enough to know full well what would be the reaction would be to his invitation of David Duke. If he does the same with this proposed 9/11 conference it will provoke a similar response.

How about you answer my substantive point instead of the minor one?

You don't see Ian that there are myriad traps and snares being laid for the Iranians.

[conspiracy analyst]

Therefore, after actually stepping back and looking at everything in its proper perspective, I have to ask myself is Mr. Ahmadinejad really just a sane person in an insane world?

http://shtf411.com/is-ahmadinejad-a-san ... tml#p88445

[cem]

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Israel: "Wiped off The Map". The Rumor of the Century, Fabricated by the US Media to Justify An All out War on Iran

Global Research Editor's Note:

The following text by Arash Norouzi first published by the Mossadegh Project and Global Research in January 2007 confirms that the alleged "Wiped Off the Map" statement by Iran's president was never made.

The rumor was fabricated by the American media with a view to discrediting Iran's head of state and providing a justification for waging an all out war on Iran. the article provides of media manipulation and "propaganda in action".

Iran is blamed for refusing to abide by the "reasonable demands" of "the international community".

Realities are twisted and turned upside down. Iran is being accused of wanting to start a war. Inherent in US military doctrine, the victims of war are heralded as the aggressor.

The threat to global security comes from the US-NATO-Israel military alliance, which is now threatening Iran with a pre-emptive attack with nuclear warheads.

If Iran is attacked, we are potentially in a World War III scenario.

It is essential to dispel the fabrications of the Western media.

Iran does not constitute a threat to to Global Security.

Iran does not possess a nuclear weapons program. Iran does not constitute a threat to Israel.

Michel Chossudovsky, 25 September 2010

link to the article:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=21188


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[Disco_Destroyer]

People can and do use any hate they can muster to run from the truth, it is our duty to be steadfast and unyielding.
If it is any consolation I don't mind being called a Muslim sympathiser I have been called alot worse. The truth be known I sympathise with all victims, of which Muslims seem to be on the receiving end of the biggest set-up of our time
Who ever goes public they dish the dirt, should we expect any less from those that like to fight dirty?

[Disco_Destroyer]

'Denial' Conference? wow what side of the fence are some on here?
His credibility in the West is Painted by the West

When it comes to the holocaust I'm on a different side of the fence to David Duke, a former KKK grand wizard and anyone who gives him and his views a platform. How about you?

1stly and most important I highlighted the deliberate mistake 'Denial' a very strong word, rolled straight off the lips of dear Rupert Murdoch himself no doubt.

I am on the side of rational debate. In an open forum of any choice really.
Do you fight for freedom or the impairment of free speech and expression?

Of course the conferences are politically motivated. Fortunately discussions are alot nicer than bombs and terror like our western counterparts.

What of the other attendees? you seem to have an obsession with only one person?

[Disco_Destroyer]

Are you also suggesting that one cannot listen to someone because of previous convictions?
One cannot learn from another's mind? Or that in doing so one lends support or even has to support the views of another? What nonsense.
If David Duke and the KKK are so puritan surely he must be eating alot of humble pie in an Arab nation?

[Disco_Destroyer]

On another note maybe it is Ahmandinejad that is playing the cool kat while the western dictatorship crumbles?
On the other foot, what other defence has the smaller nations got in the face of tyranny? Other than to state the truth and obvious and hope they enlighten enough of us slaves to prevent anything else happening.

enter the cool T-Shirt here:

I was a Truther before it became cool

[ian neal]

This hits the nail on then head and explains why I'm so suspicious of Ahmadinejad. Whatever else we think, we can agree that Ahmadinejad is no fool. He's intelligent enough. Intelligent enough to know full well what would be the reaction would be to his invitation of David Duke. If he does the same with this proposed 9/11 conference it will provoke a similar response.

How about you answer my substantive point instead of the minor one?

You don't see Ian that there are myriad traps and snares being laid for the Iranians.

Well, doh. Of course I see them, just like you see them. My point is so would Ahmadinejad have seen them. In advance back in 2006. He would have known how the MSM works. He would have known the traps and snares that lie around this issue and also back in 2006 he would have known all about 9/11 and the 9/11 truth movement.

Yet despite this he choose

1) To prioritise the holocaust over 9/11 and then
2) To walk straight into the very traps and snares that have been laid around the holocaust by inviting David Duke and his ilk

That is either very foolish (and I've already said I don't take him for a fool) or he is playing a different game. A game that to put it mildly I find highly suspicious and which plays straight into his critics hands. The very people covering up 9/11 that he claims to oppose.

I'm amazed that more people don't openly share my suspicions. People like Andrew who claims to have such a deep understanding of the smoke and mirrors of history and politics. His posts show he understands how the PTB (the powers that be) have played both sides down through history and he gives WWII and the Russian revolution as examples of this. He knows that often opposing 'isms' are in actuality reverse sides of the same coin.

And yet when it comes to Iran apparently all the smoke and mirrors have been put away and we can all trust Ahmadinejad and take him at face value. Well I don't.

The real irony is that many of the most powerful and vocal proponents of zionism I don't reckon are actually zionists at all, any more that Bush is a Christian. They wrap themselves in their phoney religions in order to tell us a story. But that doesn't mean that's true.

[ian neal]

Are you also suggesting that one cannot listen to someone because of previous convictions?
One cannot learn from another's mind? Or that in doing so one lends support or even has to support the views of another? What nonsense.
If David Duke and the KKK are so puritan surely he must be eating alot of humble pie in an Arab nation?

No I'm saying that if you wish influence global opinion and global events you should be mindful who you associate with.

[Andrew.]

Yet despite this he choose

1) To prioritise the holocaust over 9/11 and then
2) To walk straight into the very traps and snares that have been laid around the holocaust by inviting David Duke and his ilk

Well he cannot get the msm to print what he would perhaps want, but that is up to us to help the truth along, not hinder it. What has Duke said that is eating you up, that people keep twisting.

And yet when it comes to Iran apparently all the smoke and mirrors have been put away and we can all trust Ahmadinejad and take him at face value. Well I don't.

Who said they trust him on everything. I did not like his part about Nuclear energy for example.

I'm amazed that more people don't openly share my suspicions. People like Andrew who claims to have such a deep understanding of the smoke and mirrors of history and politics. His posts show he understands how the PTB (the powers that be) have played both sides down through history and he gives WWII and the Russian revolution as examples of this. He knows that often opposing 'isms' are in actuality reverse sides of the same coin.

Who was one person for example? Who said we could not push/talk about a certain subject matter (not the Holocaust) that makes this all so clear to anyone who reads it and is honest.

The real irony is that many of the most powerful and vocal proponents of zionism I don't reckon are actually zionists at all, any more that Bush is a Christian. They wrap themselves in their phoney religions in order to tell us a story. But that doesn't mean that's true.

Zionism of the 33 kind and all it's satanic tentacles that we don't talk about here much? Which is just a way of them having the entire world to themselves alone with fewer (eventually) compliant slaves.

[outsider]

I suggest we stop this bickering; I sent an email out to all recently, giving the history of Israel's nuke aquisiiition, and of the three subs they bought from Germany. Some of you may be aware the three Israeli subs were recently reported as having transited the Suez Canal, along with a US fleet.
Pull youselves together! Do any of you want an attack on Iran?
Do you think Ahmeninajad wants an attack on Iran? Don't you think Israel wants an attack on Iran? Don't you think the US covets Iran's oil?

President Ahmeninajad spoke the truth about 9/11, and we shouldn't be scared s**tless in case the MSM uses this against us. They are not short of using things against us, primarily that we exist.

A Martian checking out this Forum, would scratch it's head in amazement (providing it had a head). But then, maybe 'it' was behind the 'Beam'; never can tell!

Instead of taking potshots at each other, we should be searching the MSM for comment sections, and giving them a piece of our minds.
Maybe you all have so much time on your hands that you are doing that as well. I doubt it.

[outsider]

While your all girding your skirts for another foray, perhaps a little light relief is in order:
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewto ... 603#150603

But it's much more satisfying to sling mud and brickbats, isn't it?
Listen carefully, and you will hear the guffaws of the NWO as they swig their champers and blood, and idly peruse the 'Opposition's' Forums.

'It's easy, Like taking candy, From a baby...' springs to mind.

Hope they don't put us all in the same Concentration Camp; make the Coloseaum look like nursery school!

[blackbear]

ian neal states:

..."A game that to put it mildly I find highly suspicious and which plays straight into his critics hands. The very people covering up 9/11 that he claims to oppose."..

Reading the following paragraph made me think of you, Ian.

..Those who deny Zionist power over US Mid East foreign policy are left-Zionists namely Noam Chomsky and his acolytes. They never analyze the legislative process, executive decision-making, the structures and activity of the million member Zionist grassroots and the appointments and background of key policy makers deciding strategic policies in the Middle East. Instead they resort to superficial generalizations and political demagogy, imputing policy to "Big Oil" and the "military-industrial complex" or "US imperialism". Categories devoid of empirical content and historical context about real existing policy making regarding the Middle East...........

The State And Local Bases Of Zionist Power In America
By James Petras
http://www.rense.com/general92/zpow.htm

"The US and the Zionists developed the strategy of the September 11 attacks in an effort to counter the Islamic vigilance and to control energy resources in the Middle East," IRNA quoted Brigadier General Yahya Rahim-Safavi ..(press tv)

Comments

Ruth
Well done Mr Ahmadinejad! Thank god somebody has the guts to speak the truth. Many in the West are sick to death of the lies of their politicians and the rubbish that they fed to the media. The only logical conclusion with all the evidence and failure of the US government to investigate the atrocity is that it was an inside job........

Tom Rash
The president of Iran has hit where it hurts most. As head of the government of a very important country in the world, it is essentially the first official challenge to the 9/11 story, and the multi trillion dollar project called war on terror (Islam) and terrorists (Muslims) that was launched in the aftermath using this as a pretext.The president of Iran has in essence attacked at the very foundation of the basis of this so called war on terror, and as a result with their heads boiling, the leaders of America, Britain and Israel are raging and quivering in anger. If the momentum is kept on this issue the entire project by the West led by America will fall on the ground.

Blackbear

Total respect and thanks a million, Ahmadinejad.!
Keep up the good work. Time will tell.

[Disco_Destroyer]

lol Outsider
I'm sure we'd all be group hugging really

Back to Ian and David Duke 'even a stopped clock is right twice a day'

Maybe he is a bad egg, maybe more than that but is it not wise to understand what drives him? Sure would be nice to know the inner workings of the Rothschild dynasty :0

Anyone heard btw that a Terror Threat was announced by a family member to a Truther? The US police were notified and seemingly took the threat seriously :0

[ian neal]

Reduction in bickering is fine with me. I've explained my suspicions about Amadinejad and my concerns about this proposed conference and happy to leave it at that. As you say the hour is late and we should probably all be concentrating our energies elsewhere.

[cem]

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http://www.presstv.com/detail/144111.html


Ahmadinejad wins MPs backing on 9/11

Press TV, 25 September 2010


Nearly 200 Iranian lawmakers have expressed support for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's remarks at the UN General Assembly last week.

In a statement released on Sunday, 195 lawmakers said Ahmadinejad's remarks brought joy to the Muslim and freedom-seeking nations of the world.

On Thursday, Ahmadinejad proposed that an independent UN committee investigate the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington over what he called "suspicious" circumstances surrounding the attacks.

Two Iranian lawmakers shared their views on the controversial call with Press TV.

"President Ahmadinejad's revolutionary standings are naturally not pleasant for countries like the United States and Britain, and therefore they are worried," head of the Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Alaeddin Boroujerdi said Sunday.

"Ahmadinejad referred to an issue which has been a big question mark in the minds of Americans. Naturally the United States is not happy about Ahmadinejad's speech, because there are many ambiguities surrounding the 9/11 incident, especially over its connection with the Zionist Regime [of Israel]."

Lawmaker Hassan Ghafourifard said Ahmadinejad "was criticizing the position of the United States about what happened on September 11, because so many people were killed in that incident. Then America felt justified to attack Iraq and Afghanistan."

"No body cares about the kind of killing that is going on in Afghanistan. And President Ahmadinejad said we have to do a researched probe to find out what was really behind that attack," he added.

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[ian neal]

ian neal states:

..."A game that to put it mildly I find highly suspicious and which plays straight into his critics hands. The very people covering up 9/11 that he claims to oppose."..

Reading the following paragraph made me think of you, Ian.

..Those who deny Zionist power over US Mid East foreign policy are left-Zionists namely Noam Chomsky and his acolytes. They never analyze the legislative process, executive decision-making, the structures and activity of the million member Zionist grassroots and the appointments and background of key policy makers deciding strategic policies in the Middle East. Instead they resort to superficial generalizations and political demagogy, imputing policy to "Big Oil" and the "military-industrial complex" or "US imperialism". Categories devoid of empirical content and historical context about real existing policy making regarding the Middle East...........

The State And Local Bases Of Zionist Power In America
By James Petras
http://www.rense.com/general92/zpow.htm

"The US and the Zionists developed the strategy of the September 11 attacks in an effort to counter the Islamic vigilance and to control energy resources in the Middle East," IRNA quoted Brigadier General Yahya Rahim-Safavi ..(press tv)

To be compared to Chomsky .... you know how to hurt.

I don't deny that power is held by key individuals rather than some intangible entity such as the 'military-industrial complex' and I don't deny many of these key individuals either are or claim to be Jewish. I understand why you label them zionists, because publicly they promote zionism and cry anti-semiticism when anyone dares criticise them. But that is just their game as far as I'm concerned and I won't play it.

As I explained above I believe zionists is a misnomer since I don't actually accept that at the highest levels they (the senior advocates of zionism) actually believe in the nonsense they tell us any more than skull and boners Bush is a born again Christian. It's all lies. However by describing them as zionists we are playing their game and playing straight into their hands.

[fish5133]

Just a biblical perspective. The God of Israel in the Old Testament worked out his purposes, including judgement against his chosen people, using foreign powers who had their own gods. Ever wondered why one of the smallest "nations" are at the centre of so much trouble down through history. There is a lot of biblical prophecy concerning Israel that is yet to happen including the world nations surrounding them (even perhaps their former supporters)
Maybe the Iranian president is just hoping to give the lead to other world leaders to come out the closet on 911 truth especially those who dont care much for the US.

[Disco_Destroyer]

Just a biblical perspective. The God of Israel in the Old Testament worked out his purposes, including judgement against his chosen people, using foreign powers who had their own gods. Ever wondered why one of the smallest "nations" are at the centre of so much trouble down through history. There is a lot of biblical prophecy concerning Israel that is yet to happen including the world nations surrounding them (even perhaps their former supporters)
Maybe the Iranian president is just hoping to give the lead to other world leaders to come out the closet on 911 truth especially those who dont care much for the US.

would that be Cent Com lol

[Andrew.]

Just a biblical perspective. The God of Israel in the Old Testament worked out his purposes, including judgement against his chosen people, using foreign powers who had their own gods. Ever wondered why one of the smallest "nations" are at the centre of so much trouble down through history. There is a lot of biblical prophecy concerning Israel that is yet to happen including the world nations surrounding them (even perhaps their former supporters)
Maybe the Iranian president is just hoping to give the lead to other world leaders to come out the closet on 911 truth especially those who dont care much for the US.

I don't see anything that suggest yet that people of Britain and America etc will or want to return to the Law that will prevent that fish. Even when they face the most likely demise and murder in an invasive war. Men here are so far removed from those Laws and principals and so feminised they don't seem capable of doing what they need to. And keep lying to themselves that talking to our plutocracy is enough when they the plutocracy wont listen as they never have in thousands of years.