Small Plane Crashes Into New York Building

TimmyG · Post by **TimmyG** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:34 pm

looking forward to the new war on baseball players with planes.

prole art threat · Post by **prole art threat** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:37 pm

scar wrote:
Andrew Johnson wrote:PAT

Your sig gives me the creeps!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaB1psXTjS4

Brilliant. I actually was unaware a full video like this exists. Cheers mate!

prole art threat · Post by **prole art threat** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:41 pm

I wish that plane had been bigger. That passport found in the street was a bit rabbit holey, dont you all think?? It's as though they come out with these things for, like, a weird joke.

prole art threat · Post by **prole art threat** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:46 pm

I think a lot of this is about mindgames. September 11th, 2001/October 11th, 2006. It's probably subconsciously putting people on high alert.

prole art threat · Post by **prole art threat** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:06 am

I think it is also very probable that 9/11 is just one big mindgame, And either you see all the 'smoking guns' and become active and spread the truth or see the 'smoking guns' and just becoming so full of shock, you deny it's real and end up going into a very advanced and peculiar form of denial. Hiya 'critics corner'!

9/11 was a botch job because it was supposed to be a botch job.

Banish · Post by **Banish** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:45 am

Her's one for you guys! The address of the plane crash was --

524 E 72ND ST 46D NEW YORK, NY 10021

http://cryptome.org/mi6-knickers.htm

Do an "F3" and paste the address into the box to find the relevant data on the page.

iro · Post by **iro** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:22 am

whats an 'f3'?

John White · Post by **John White** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:04 am

prole art threat wrote:I think it is also very probable that 9/11 is just one big mindgame, And either you see all the 'smoking guns' and become active and spread the truth or see the 'smoking guns' and just becoming so full of shock, you deny it's real and end up going into a very advanced and peculiar form of denial. Hiya 'critics corner'!

9/11 was a botch job because it was supposed to be a botch job.

I definately concur that calculated aspects of absurdity and insanity where exacuted during the timescale of events to frustrate any potential future exposure

Its a massive learning curve for ordinary citizens to develop understanding of military games and theory: if you can find the data!
You cannot think logically and understand the patterns, an effective weapon as well as defense

AntiZionistAntiNeocon · Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:13 am

Banish wrote:Her's one for you guys! The address of the plane crash was --

524 E 72ND ST 46D NEW YORK, NY 10021

http://cryptome.org/mi6-knickers.htm

Do an "F3" and paste the address into the box to find the relevant data on the page.

Very interesting...
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Yamaha Wiki specifications

Banish · Post by **Banish** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:27 am

iro, I'm using firefox browser CTRL F or F3 opens a little text box at the bottom of the browser window, if you type say a word that you are looking for on the page it will show you where each occurence is.

CTRL F in Windoze Internet Explorer.

Its handy for finding specific data in web pages.

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 · Post by **THETRUTHWILLSETU3** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:58 am

Reports that Lidle's passport was found on the street is also being seen as suspicious by some 9/11 truthers - because it would seemingly prop up the inconceivable notion that Mohammed Atta and other hijacker's passports survived and were discovered. However, in the case of Lidle this could easily be explained by eyewitness reports that most of the plane debris did not enter the building and ended up on the street below. This is how investigators have already been able to identify the plane in just the short time after the crash.

That's interesting - aren't planes supposed to go through the building like a knife through butter

O'h sorry my mistake - this was a real plane

Woodee · Post by **Woodee** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:01 pm

this was travelling (and only capable) or miniscule speeds compared to a 767 going 500mph or so... it's not made of the same material.... nor the same shape. Apple's and oranges dear boy

Patrick Brown · Post by **Patrick Brown** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:11 pm

This happened today (may have been yesterday): http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/ukfs ... id=6043846

The questions are why and how?

Terrorism?

ComfortablyNumb · Post by **ComfortablyNumb** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:17 pm

Right there Woodee. Looks like objectivity just got 'pitched' out the window!

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 · Post by **THETRUTHWILLSETU3** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:24 pm

So are the last 2 posters saying that if it had been a commercial jet - then the plane would go through it like a hot knife through butter.

The nose cone of a plane (see loose change) is very fragile and would disintigrate upon impact - do you dispute this?

ComfortablyNumb · Post by **ComfortablyNumb** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:04 pm

Yep!

You can push a pencil through concrete if its travelling fast enough.

QED

Celtic King · Post by **Celtic King** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:07 pm

I like the way the FBI were quick to say "It wasnt a terrorist attack"... in other words, "It wasnt us"....

physicist · Post by **physicist** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:33 pm

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote:Reports that Lidle's passport was found on the street is also being seen as suspicious by some 9/11 truthers - because it would seemingly prop up the inconceivable notion that Mohammed Atta and other hijacker's passports survived and were discovered.

Hmm, Atta's passport actually fell down a lift shaft. That's how it escaped.

Also, a lot of aircraft fuel spilled down the lift shafts too. When the fuel got to the bottom, it vapourised, formed a combustible mixture with air and was then exploded by a convenient ignition source.

Surely you heard about all those explosions at the bottom of the towers?

What, the shafts didn't go all the way to the bottom? Back to the drawing board...

Woodee · Post by **Woodee** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:11 pm

this little plane had a flight instructer onboard? Obviously not one to have in an emergency then. If the theories of it having a fuel failure or something, surely these things glide when not under power? Why hit something in the middle of the city scape when there is plenty of space to maybe lay it down on a highway?

Woodee · Post by **Woodee** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:14 pm

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote:So are the last 2 posters saying that if it had been a commercial jet - then the plane would go through it like a hot knife through butter.

The nose cone of a plane (see loose change) is very fragile and would disintigrate upon impact - do you dispute this?

I would think it would. Don't they say that in hurricanes that ears of corn can puncture more robust materials? I think it was corn anyway, might have been some other plant or something. Maybe even a plank of wood or something

Dr Hemp · Post by **Dr Hemp** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:03 pm

Fires blazing across several floors. How come the tower didn't come down. Don't the laws of 911 physics apply on a Wednesday?

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 · Post by **THETRUTHWILLSETU3** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:21 pm

What evidence do you have to support this?

doctorjaclblack · Post by **doctorjaclblack** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:40 pm

What I find interesting is the "Have your say" section on the BBC news web site. The crash was a major topic talking point when it happened. Then all of a sudden the post is gone, can't find it anywhere. Another example of the BBC's "fully moderated" media.

Wokeman · Post by **Wokeman** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:20 pm

Dr Hemp,
Yes, they did! It's just that they didn't apply on Tuesday, 11th Sept 2001!

paul wright · Post by **paul wright** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:30 pm

Yeah - the fallen passport's the one strange key- what on earths that about?
And why his plane was allowed to fly about over protected airspace
I'll take it as an accident, but there are things that just dont add up

Mark Gobell · Post by **Mark Gobell** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:10 pm

In Lidle, Yanks Have Extra Pitcher and Backup Pilot

When the Yankees fly, the pilots are not only in the cockpit. There is another pilot in the main cabin, where the players sit. He is probably studying his hand-held Global Positioning System receiver, tracking the weather and noting the plane’s precise speed and altitude.

He is Cory Lidle, who has been a major league pitcher for nine years and a pilot for seven months. He earned his pilot’s license last off-season and bought a four-seat airplane for $187,000. It is a Cirrus SR20, built in 2002, with fewer than 400 hours in the air.

A player-pilot is still a sensitive topic for the Yankees, whose captain, Thurman Munson, was killed in the crash of a plane he was flying in 1979. Lidle, acquired from the Philadelphia Phillies on July 30, said his plane was safe.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/08/sport ... nd&emc=rss

Mark Gobell · Post by **Mark Gobell** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:40 pm

The chap who developed the Belaire building is William Zeckendorf Jr.

http://www.multi-housingnews.com/multih ... 1003252676

Zeckendorf's company Webb & Knapp engaged in a real-life game of Monopoly involving some of the most prestigious properties in the United States, including the United Nations site, he is credited with bringing the UN and shopping to Manhattan http://www.newsday.com/community/guide/ ... 7698.story and here http://www.liu.edu/but01/new/special/75 ... ndorfs.htm

Zeckendorf is one of the major luminaries of the New York real esate business http://www.nysun.com/article/28471

Webb & Knapp were responsible for developing the Roosevelt Airfield where the first transatlantic flights of Charles Lindbergh and Amelia Earhart took off from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_Airfield the president of which was a Herbert I. Silverson

William Zeckendorf and his brother Arthur own Terra Holdings, parent company of Brown Harris Stevens and Halstead Property.

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Small Plane Crashes Into New York Building

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In Lidle, Yanks Have Extra Pitcher and Backup Pilot